User talk:Kafka Liz

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Bi-eyed-akk-male.jpg A Dogie
Here is the puppy some month later. Hafspajen (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
He looks like a whole different breed! ;) As long as he's happy! Kafka Liz (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
  • It's all makeup and contacts. Hafspajen (talk) 20:01, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Happily accepted. He can help me terrorise the neighborhood . ;) Kafka Liz (talk) 21:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
I'll warn Sean and whatshername next door ;) Ceoil (talk) 10:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Surprise and fear: those are my weapons. Kafka Liz (talk) 10:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Deadly as usual, Liz my dear. Ceoil (talk) 10:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Some things[edit]

I know I can never live this down. There is a lot of stuff strewn around these days about the "gender gap" and about women editors. I imagine I don't speak for the majority, but I have always been happy to let my reputation rest on the the quality of my edits. The concept that women need a "safe space" -as if we were somehow a delicate subspecies- is offensive to me. I am a woman, and I don't care at all for the idea that I need special treatment here. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Portrait of Monsieur Bertin[edit]

I do be needing your help with the prose on this. J'know. I think I've left in a few sentences a long the lines of "its a grand portrait, like". Ceoil (talk) 12:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Having a look at the dodgy auld fecker as we speak. Kafka Liz (talk) 12:35, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey leave old feckers alone! </defensive old punk> You were always the better writer than I, so....Ceoil (talk) 18:36, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
He's so hot, he's making me sixist. Kafka Liz (talk) 19:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Whats wrong with being sixey [2] Ceoil (talk) 19:51, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
If that's what you're into. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:02, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Steady on girls, Bertin was married, well at least before he died 173 years ago. Ceoil (talk) 19:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Sheeee-it, bitch. That said, he was French and all. Kafka Liz (talk) 19:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Worse than that, half your family are now Paddies! Well at least not Brits :) Ceoil (talk) 19:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, the Wops are a bit up in arms about that ;) Kafka Liz (talk) 19:50, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Do I need to be worried. Are they "friends of yours"? Normally Brian 'takes care' of wops. He's big and ugly enough. Dont tell me I need to call in (the) Hosford. Ceoil (talk) 19:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
We don't generally talk about such until it's finished. Go watch Long Term Parking if you need help on this front. Kafka Liz (talk) 19:58, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
I'll ask Brian to "talk" with your people. Whom ever survives will determine who controls the tv remote control in our house. The stakes are that high. Ceoil (talk) 20:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
The time for "talk" is long past. Brian might just wind up like the chihuahua who meets an Alsatian, you dig? Kafka Liz (talk)
Bring it on. Better wops than you have tried. I'll sacrifice any number of brothers. 20:16, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Bullshit. You'd never have wasted time with Poles and Albanians if you knew what us Wops could do. Meanwhile, your brothers are now free-range meat. I'll take out the vegan first. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:19, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah christ. Not only slain brothers, but my dreams of controlling the televison machine are lost, I'll spend the next two years watching downton abbey. Mr Bates never knew such misery. No re runs of Oz for me, it seems. Well. Well, so it is. <Sigh> Ceoil (talk) 20:23, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Just imagine "Mister Bates" making sweet, sweet love with Poet. Then we can watch The Wire. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:30, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Poet always left me cold, too much early 80s downtown New York experimental theater. And fuuuuccck that. Wire I can live with. Ceoil (talk) 20:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Then we are done here. Meanwhile, I have a horse's head I need to dispose of. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:36, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
My cousin Richie (the one with the mental beard) specialises in that, Elizabeth Jennings style. Will disposes of horses; no questions. Ceoil (talk) 20:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Crazy shit. Better watch myself. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Well, I dont know how clever you are. Ceoil (talk) 03:59, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
I have not yet begun to fight. Plus, cats. Kafka Liz (talk) 06:39, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
You should also get some veg in your diet. Try eating an apple or some shit. Kafka Liz (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I only eat what my lovely wife puts in front of me. Also, "an apple"?[3] Ceoil (talk) 11:53, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Rocky Mountain Oysters it is. "A owl"? And y'all presume to lecture Yanks on grammar? Kafka Liz (talk) 12:50, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Not really. Lecturing Yanks tends to end in disaster, as my Bristish friends, and Boston's fine harbour, might contest ;) Ceoil (talk) 13:06, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
I'll take tea over six plus feet of snow any day... Meanwhile, I am drowning in casein. Kafka Liz (talk) 13:15, 15 February 2015 (UTC)


Used to be cool. Mad max 1 & 2? Ceoil (talk) 10:35, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

He was good playing Hamlet as he is a bit nuts very convincing. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Well thats born again Catholics for ya. He lost it for me during Lethal Weapon 2, but in the mid 80s, in all that black leather, forgetaboutit. Cooler even than Yeats. Ceoil (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Tuning you out, and going to watch Gallipoli. Me legs are steel springs, and they fling me down the track. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:54, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Needs moar Nick Cave (Mad Max, that is. Gallipoli needs nothing). Kafka Liz (talk) 00:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Was driving araound today and flicking thru stations when I heard these guys and they sound quite fun... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
They had a new song which I can't find oline anywhere that was better...also this was good too, note soundcloud is of older single...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:44, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Don't know these guys, but I like. :) This is hardly new, but is the only possible response. Kafka Liz (talk)|
I played that for my kids the other day - they liked. I am feeling PC today - saw Pride last week and Selma today with my older two kids. Interesting the detail in hisotry and enjoyable....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:03, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to watch Pride, but my oddly pro-Thatcher husband is "agin"-it. I've heard Selma bends the truth a bit re: LBJ - it's ok overall? Kafka Liz (talk) 13:08, 1 March 2015 (UTC
Plus points for having uber-cool kids Kafka Liz (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Not sure on how each varies from the truth as I am not familiar with the source material by any means. Did wonder about that in Selma...and thx for platitude re me kids :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Not all kids are Ministry-ready ;) Selma managed to piss off my mother...but then, perhaps that isn't so hard. Kafka Liz (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

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visual arts
Thank you for quality articles for project Visual arts, such as Crucifixion and Last Judgement diptych, performed in collaboration and after "reading a lot", well described in your Barnstar of Cultural Transcendence, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (6 April 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 440th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 30 March 2015 (UTC) are such an unabashedly nice person. I'm not certain the wiki deserves you, but I'm happy and grateful that you're here, and this message has cheered me up quite a bit. Best, Kafka Liz (talk) 15:08, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
So you don't think that my user page is a display of hostility? This message cheered me up enormously! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:53, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Not sure why you'd ask that, but absolutely not. Unless I'm missing something? Kafka Liz (talk) 04:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I ask that because in a recent arbcom request (declined, but I lost another friend over it) it has been linked to for "general hostility, stirring and accusations". Happy Easter (we celebrate 2 days)!
Ah, I'd missed that. Not here all that often, after all, and I've never been much about politics. And if this is about infoboxes... I have my opinion, but I ain't touching that powder keg. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 13:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I wonder how the little boxes became powder kegs, while nobody argues not to have images although some readers can't see them. Did you know that I am the most severely restricted person in the field without ever having been in an edit war. Not easy to achieve, I am tremendously proud of it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Eh, I think that a lot of folks just enjoy a fight. I've been guilty of that myself, upon occasion. Like to think I am past it, but...never say never ;) I was unaware that you had restrictions. Should I ask? Kafka Liz (talk) 19:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
See here, two comments per discussion max (and I guess it was my own idea). I made a third one on Laurence Olivier and was taken to arbitrary enforcement. I normally love the restriction because it gives me more time for other things to walk away after two comments. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I see. I tend to try to stay away from this sort of thing myself because it does genuinely depress me, but sometimes we are sucked in nevertheless. Meanwhile, at least you have the music articles. Lovely job there; you are to be congratulated :) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I could name several people who are too reasonable to engage in those "discussions", and I know that it would be wise for me to stay away, but I can't leave the wounded alone ;) (How many times will I have to hear: "The infobox is not necessary because it is redundant to the lead."? - The infobox is not necessary. Period. Of course it is redundant to the lead, has to be. An abstract is redundant to a book, we still have one. Btw, a shorter and more pleasant discussion came up yesterday, I had my 2 comments and left, to work on my next FA to be, with pleasure, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Mmmm, generally speaking, I think they work with some articles yet not with others. And that is all I will say at present. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:40, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Now you make me curious. One example of not working, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
This again. Sigh. Meanwhile, back on planet earth [4]. Ceoil (talk) 02:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Henry Ossawa Tanner, 1902
Dreaming, dreaming ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Beautiful and serene, Gerda. Well done. Ceoil (talk) 19:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Hafspajen gave me a selection to pick from, see my 2014 talk archive. Sadly missed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Uh, unless I am mistaken Hafspajen is very much with us. Ceoil (talk) 20:06, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
No, Ceoil, I am not with you. Sadly I have no socks either. They have won. Admins declared me disruptive (even if the other editor is is ten times as disruptive ). Everybody is giving him credit and nobody noticed how badly he acted towards me, and nobody noticed my edits at Signpost were better than his. Or if they did, they don't give a damn. I am not missed, nobody is questioning the whole thing, nobody cares. But yes, they won, and I lost. And I will not come back, not like this. Nobody raised this issue anywhere else, went off-Wiki, kept everything for themselfes, and I am forgotten and gone. No I am not coming back, I really mean this. People are used to the "Haffy will soon be back after a Wikibreak-thing". They think it is going to be like this this time too. It will not be like this. I have been mercilessly abused, hurt, declared disruptive, abandoned, betrayed and dragged in the mud. I have more pride and self-constiousness (however that is spelled) - than you might think. If everybody let those things pass and soon it is forgotten, I will never ever edit wikipedia, I don't want to do that any more. Hafspajen (talk) 23:46, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Hafspajen I know better than most what its like to get too involved - I have a long and colourful block log, half of it for unadultrated trolling people that annoy me. Tempting, but. My only advice is to step back, unwatchlist, disengage and remember why you liked this place in the first place. There is a pretty good visual arts team here, of which you are a part; think that. Ceoil (talk) 13:30, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Hafspajen, I prefer you ranting to being silent, but to say you are forgotten while I said a little above that I miss you is not easy for me to take. I miss you.
Thank you for reflecting the Gerechtigkeitsspirale!

Did you know ... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"?

The poem ends with "Praise the right thing".
This is 500 years old and still true, - we will have to live with a not-so-perfect world, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


Pong :) Ceoil (talk) 22:03, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Here is some v nice two step [5]. Ceoil (talk) 20:58, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


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I know you are basically a Paddy now, haha, but thanks for turning a thick Irish brogue not just into readable English, but into English thats engaging to read. Portrait of Monsieur Bertin made FA; always great to work with you Liz. Ceoil (talk) 00:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Bty spot the "Americans" connection.[6]. Those dudes are what Game of Thrones would have looked like if it had been made in the 80s. Ceoil (talk) 07:39, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
That Murray Head guy! Amazing! Kafka Liz (talk) 08:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


These days I sort of slide in here and don't look at my watchlist (which had to be severely pruned some months ago because an unexplained glitch with a script) for a variety of reasons. I noticed Johnbod's post to Iri's page and didn't even scroll up, so didn't know you were commenting on The Wrestlers. I think I may have stepped on toes (not to say edit conflicted your hubby too!) so sorry all around. I hope I haven't done something to provoke the retired banner. I think it's best for me to put mine back given the number of inadvertent mistakes I managed to make over the weekend. Take care and hope all is well. Victoria (tk) 15:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Wasn't you, trust me, so no apologies necessary. longer retired :) I'm only just getting back into things, so I'm not completely caught up. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:02, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Also, Vic, haven't noticed any real mistakes. You're a force for good here. I hope you won't be gone for long. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:37, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, nice of you to say. Dunno what got into me, except that I wasn't feeling well and it was hot (85 degrees, 87% humidity - just ugh!) so I must not have been thinking straight. Or something. Victoria (tk) 12:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I remember days like that. Good to see you are back. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:32, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


Ring any bells? 1980 mind, so well before what you might guess. The kiely addition areound 1:18 is from recent mash up, and imo really works. Ceoil (talk) 00:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Can't honestly say I know it.. Though the vid keeps cutting out?
I blame society Kafka Liz (talk) 00:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
and Black Francis [7] Kafka Liz (talk) 01:13, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch for the Cimabue edits. I see my lousy prose is being knocked into shape. Passive/active; I dont even really know what that means. I'll get me coat. Ceoil (talk) 10:21, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Active is, Liz edits your article. Passive is, Your article is edited by Liz. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 10:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Either way, Liz rocks. Ceoil (talk) 10:37, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Why, thank you. :) In all seriousness, I was taught (ouch) my instructors taught me that it was best avoided in formal prose, if possible. I argued against it at the time, saying that if it was good enough for the Romans, it was good enough for us. Got shut down pretty quick about it, though. Kafka Liz (talk) 10:44, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Hehe, but your in Cork now girl, different rules apply. G'know like, whaa? Ceoil (talk) 10:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Don't I be knowing it, biy? Kafka Liz (talk) 11:02, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
You do be. Ceoil (talk) 11:05, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I just can't be dealing with that now, ok? Kafka Liz (talk) 11:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
"a bleeding-do". Dublin fuckers; <jesus christ>. Ceoil (talk)
Still my favourite.[8]. Ceoil (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm a dopey spider gal meself. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for your congratulations and your support over at my RfA. I shall do my best to be worthy of the honor. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Pretty sure you'll be up to the challenge. Kafka Liz (talk) 01:06, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hello from Lingzhi (Ling.Nut)[edit]

  • Hell Liz. I used to be Ling.Nut. Good to see you around. • Lingzhi(talk) 23:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Hell back ;). Good to see you. So many of the folks I remember here are gone, so I welcome a familiar face (as it were). :) Kafka Liz (talk) 03:59, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
"Oh, hell." :-) • Lingzhi(talk) 10:59, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
At least it's sunny. ;) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you![edit]

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg Here's a nice cup of tea for you. I personally can only count to five. Everything else is Hrairoo • Lingzhi(talk) 08:06, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Favourite book as a kid. Got it even without the link :) Kafka Liz (talk) 15:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)