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Silent Hill (film)[edit]

Some links have been added to support a claim, but something's wrong with them, they're maybe dead, but I can't tell for sure; could you check them and also see if they indeed support the claim (check my user page to see a discussion I had with an IP on this issue)? Hula Hup (talk) 11:57, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

References 5 and 7 appear with a totally white background, without any logo or picture, just text, and with question marks in the place of apostrophes (e.g. Hello Jodelle! Wow, you must love scary movies as you�ve been in so many). Do they appear normal, with color, on your monitor? Maybe I see them like this because of region issues. Anyways, 5 (Bloody Disgusting) and 6 (TriStar Pictures) are reliable, but I have no idea what site 7 is, because it doesn't say (at least as I view it). Also, I didn't find any mention of Dark Alessa being the dark part of Alessa or having manifested due to Alessa's pain and rage in 6; 5 and 7 do mention that she is the dark part of Alessa, but not that she manifested because of Alessa's pain and rage. Hula Hup (talk) 19:18, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Pyramid head[edit]

Hi Kaguya-chan. I just saw this diff and am puzzled, because you seem to have reversed the interpretation you gave on the talk page. Is Maria the delusion, rather than Pyramid Head, after all? Best, --Stfg (talk) 10:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your continued interest in the progress of the page! It's my fault for not including a better explanation. Ahhh. The source (36, methinks) was used to back up that Maria was the delusion (it briefly covered the characters). While the game heavily implies that ol' PH only existed as a (scary) figment of James' imagination, I can't remember it saying it outright. (Through, maybe Hula Hup can dig something up to prove me wrong?) Completely my fault, and I hope I have not completely confused you now. Sorry. Kaguya-chan (talk) 03:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it. Nothing to be sorry about - I was just checking my understanding. I'll keep watching as I hope to see it make FA. Best, --Stfg (talk) 10:00, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

human centipede FAC[edit]

Hi there. A few months ago you commented on the Featured Article review for The Human Centipede (First Sequence). I just thought I'd let you know that I've put the article up for nomination again. The review is here. If you've got any comments on improving the article I'd really appreciate them. Thanks! Coolug (talk) 07:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Favor[edit]

I'll not be visiting the site for at least 20 days, starting from tomorrow, so my recent changes patrolling will be paused for this period. I'd like to ask you if you could add Silent Hill and Silent Hill (video game) to your watchlist and check them periodically (whenever you want and can, of course) for bad edits, because there is an ongoing effort to promote them and don't want to see them have unsourced content, POV, and excessive trivia, or vandalized, and because you have knowledge of the series, so you could more easily judge edits. If you want to clean them up or ce them or do anything you deem good, don't hesitate, there are suggestions on the articles' talk pages. I hope I'm not asking much. Thank you. Hula Hup (talk) 14:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry. It's not too much. I've already added the pages to my watchlist. Now, go and do what you must. :) Kaguya-chan (talk) 16:35, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
[Mutual understanding and making up for allies' weaknesses when a common purpose is the motivation]. Thank you and see you around. Hula Hup (talk) 21:51, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Had to remove link, as it was copyright infringment (unfortunatly), but it was a very cute clip, nonetheless. Good luck. Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:31, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi! It wasn't 20 days. Looks like I counted the days wrong! :) I'd like to thank you for your checking of the articles and for your job with the ce and removal of excessive trivia that I had added to the cult's section. Where should I have posted the video? Hula Hup (talk) 00:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi again! Thank you for your kind words. Again, it was no problem. As for the clip, links...well, linking to clips hosted on unofficial sites is generally avoided on userspace (user pages, talk pages) and the rest of Wiki, for copyright concerns. Kaguya-chan (talk) 04:18, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

You deserve this[edit]

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Hey there. I'm the reviewer who reviewed and passed 12 Days when you submitted it for Good Article status. I watch every page that I review, and I just wanted to tell you how impressed I was that you've kept improving the 12 Days article, where many editors would just get it passed at GA and then leave it. Really, really nice job continually pruning and growing the article. Thanks so much. BobAmnertiopsisChatMe! 02:19, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your very kind words, and for watching over the progress of the article. Kaguya-chan (talk) 18:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Notification[edit]

Mail call. Hula Hup (talk) 23:34, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Again. Hula Hup (talk) 06:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Third and hopefully the last. Hula Hup (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Oops!!![edit]

I've messed up some citations in the character list, but I'll have no time today and tomorrow to fix the mess up. Just wanted to let you know, since we are the only people involved in the article's expansion. I'll probably expand the "Design" section in the following days. I can't say that "Reception" is my favorite section in an article, but I'll try to expand it, too, if you don't have time. Help always appreciated on all sections, though. I wish us luck. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Hula Hup (talk) 18:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I already fixed it. Personally, I don't like "Reception" either, but I'll see if I can improve it. Kaguya-chan (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

FAC?[edit]

You think SH1 or 2 would have a shot at FA in their current state? I'm just thinking you might be interested in getting one up for the March releases, and they'd probably be more relevant than SH4. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 18:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, they don't even fulfill the A-class criteria, so a FAC would be a loss of time, I'm very afraid; there's a relevant discussion on SH1's talk page, where people have detailed quite a few things that need to be fixed (certain also exist in SH2) in order for it to be promoted to A class. I highly recommend that they take a chance at the A-class assessment first, before trying to submit any of them as FACs. Hula Hup (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
SH1 needs a lot of work, not to rain on anyone's parade. As for SH2, it's a very long article, and most sections still need touching up and a search for less-than-high-quality RSs sources should be done. To have it pass FAC in such a short time is very ambitous. However, a group effort to improve SH2 and submit it has a better chance of succeeding, I think. Kaguya-chan (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I agree with everything, except that SH2 is a very long article. Do you believe it's better to omit A-class? Yes, a team is always better than a unit. Have you read the problem on the list's talk page? Would the solution I proposed on the talk page solve the SH2 length issue you think that exists? Hula Hup (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't think that there is an issue in length. I just meant that a longer article will take more time to proofread and correct than a shorter one. That's all. As for the problem on the list talk page, I'm still collecting my thoughts on it. Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

KC, HH, do you mind if I just do something now with the SH2 "legacy" section? My thoughts on it have been on the talk page a while. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 21:48, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Not at all. It needs all the help it can get! Kaguya-chan (talk) 22:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Nothing but trivia, and also the section is very small. Small bits like these are better incorporated into appropriate areas of the article (if left at all, anyway, since they're excessive trivia). Hula Hup (talk) 22:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your hard, quality work and wise choices on the various articles of the masterpiece Silent Hill series. Thank you for helping with all those articles, it'd take ages to improve them all by myself. The SH articles you've touched are steadily moving towards GA-class or FA-class. A skilled editor and a precious collaborator. Hula Hup (talk) 15:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words. Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

My heart is a weapon of war~[edit]

Sorry for not contributing to the Emilie Autumn page so much! She's in the UK this week (and Manchester tommorow/Saturday); do we need any photos from the FLAG tour? I'd take my camera, but then again, my old one got mucked up by the tea/citrus/alcohol mix last time. :( Sceptre (talk) 02:01, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about it! :) If at all possible, any pictures would be absolutely wonderful. Sorry to hear about the tea mix mucking up your camara, though. Kaguya-chan (talk) 02:17, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I was in the centre, two rows back, so I was pretty much asking for it anyway :P. It was okay, though; a few days later she stage dived on top of me :D Sceptre (talk) 02:24, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Excellent picture, by the way. It's wonderful. Hopefully no camaras were harmed in the making. Kaguya-chan (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Only my poor phone's battery, which often takes a beating when I go to gigs. Sadly, we were too far off to the left for any exciting action (although Veronica did wave at me) Sceptre (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Silent Hill novel[edit]

What about this? I believe it's not notable. Hula Hup (talk) 18:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

As I understand it, it becomes notable when it has three RS reviews of it. Has it been translated into any other languages? Win any awards? Japanese reviews are infamous for being difficult to find. :(
I can't really tell if it's notable, but I'm leaning towards probably not on its own. However, I think it would be worth a mention as a novelisation in SH1 article. Kaguya-chan (talk) 17:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I see. So, sources need to be found to include it in SH1. Hula Hup (talk) 15:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Perron mentioned it, along with SH2 & 3's novelization.<ref>{{cite book|title=Silent Hill: The Terror Engine|author=Perron, Bernard|date=2012|location=[[Ann Arbor]]|publisher=[[University of Michigan Press]]|page=137|isbn=9780472071623|oclc=731913262}}</ref> Kaguya-chan (talk) 00:21, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


Request of opinion[edit]

Could you share your thoughts on this matter concerning the SH character list? Thank you. Hula Hup (talk) 00:36, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


Ghost in the Shell[edit]

Hi. Can you please share your thoughts on the matter at Talk:Ghost in the Shell#Scope? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

GITS[edit]

A focused and clean discussion of the future of the article is underway, because you made comments on Ghost in the Shell I am notifying you for your input in the debate. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Reply at Talk:The Evil Dead/GA1[edit]

Replied at Talk:The Evil Dead/GA1. — Cirt (talk) 23:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hard to understand through all the indented replies at Talk:The Evil Dead/GA1, but please post there when all your issues are Yes check.svg Done, okey? Thanks very much for your assistance, — Cirt (talk) 05:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Can you revisit and let me know what you think of the current state of the article's quality? — Cirt (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

You're welcome! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 22:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


Silent Hill: Shattered Memories[edit]

Hello. It's been quite a long time. :) Are you in an appropriate period and/or in the mood for the A-class preparation discussed on the game's talk page? FAC would be an easy task if this one is achieved. Hula Hup (talk) 14:34, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it has, hasn't it? :) Yes, I'll be ready to tackle the A-class to-do list very shortly. I just needed a really long break from all things SH-related. :) Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 21:15, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Me too. I've been only occasionally editing SH articles in the last 8 months or so, even quit my frequent patrolling of them. Since November if I'm not mistaken. I'm terrible at maths... Hula Hup (talk) 11:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


WP:CITEKILL[edit]

All the quotes are sourced if they share the same reference. therefore, if its at the end, the reference is citing the entire paragraph, not just that one quote.Lucia Black (talk) 02:13, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

ON a lighter note, you're not using whole quotes in the article, only using quotation to specific wording that the author has chosen. So its not in the same vain.Lucia Black (talk) 02:16, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
although the discussion is closed, it shouldn't hurt the article to add them in anyways. just be lucky it ended for civility's sake.Lucia Black (talk) 04:03, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

i'm saying that form of sourcing is redundant and unneeded, and they weren't really "quotes" more like "air-quotes" to put emphasis that it was the author's word-choice. the same reference is used in each sentence. the pointof having references is to help find where the information came from, if a whole paragraph uses the same source, theres no point citing each sentence.

THe entire paragraph is cited with that 1 source. unless u provide more sources, you dont need to cite each sentence, that one source needs to be present only once.Lucia Black (talk) 04:16, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


Anime Interviews[edit]

Hi, Rapunzel-bellflower. Sorry for bothering you, but I'm looking for interviews with Buichi Terasawa to reach a completeness in Cobra (manga), which I'm planning to rise to GA status. During my research, I found he was interviewed by Animerica, and it was collected in the book Anime Interviews: The First Five Years of Animerica, Anime & Manga Monthly (1992–97). I saw your edit, in which you add the book as a source in Magic Knight Rayearth. I assume you own the book, and so I was wondering if you could help me. Can you scan Terasawa's interview or do something that would allow me to see it? Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 23:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

You're a great editor, and you're so nice too! We need more people like you! :) About my request... hm, I was mainly looking for something for a possible "Development" section. However, I don't know what exactly I am looking for since I don't know what Terasawa said on such interview. If you see that a properly section can be written only with this interview, I would be thanked if you can do it by herself. You already wrote "Development" sections for manga (good ones, I may say), so you know what kind of information would be useful or not. On other hand, if only few information could be utilized, I'm not sure about doing such section. Perhpas the information would fit better in another section in this case. As you can't scan it, and write wouldn't be convenient, it's up to you what will be added to the article. In any way, information is always welcome. Regards, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 01:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I'm waiting too see your work on it, and I hope to turn it in a GA soon. Talking about GA, I'm also anxious to see your next one. All the best to you! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Wow, a great addition! Thank you very much! Now, it's very close to reach GA status. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For helping me with Cobra (manga), for being a nice/polite person, and, of course, for being a great editor! Your work is very appreciated!!! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 23:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. :) How very kind of you. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

FA congratulations[edit]

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GN1[edit]

just letting you know, GN1 is already covered in the article. thanks though. :) (you can remove this message)Lucia Black (talk) 19:32, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Also, i was wondering if you help me with some copy-editing for the plot of Gyo for me? I read the entire series, and its a little difficult to summarize, but if you find a way, i'm sure we could reach a happy medium. Thanks for all your hard work, i appreciate it. Lucia Black (talk) 18:42, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Sure, I love a challenge! :) I appreciate your hard work too. :) Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Sailor Moon#GA?[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Sailor Moon#GA?. Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikilove[edit]

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Whether Uzumaki makes it to GA or not, the article looks great and its thanks to your help. i greatly appreciate it. Lucia Black (talk) 06:11, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. You worked pretty hard on it too! Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

1001 comics you should read before you die[edit]

i saw you included that uzumaki appears in this book. if you have it could you quote additional comentart on it?. Lucia Black (talk) 13:24, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

i wouldnt want to sound too picky but perhaps it would be better for a more direct quote from the reviewer? Comparison to H.P. lovecraft isnt unique as multiple reviews already made such comparison/influence. Lucia Black (talk) 19:36, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh, sorry about that. It said that the style reminded the reviewer of Lovecraft's. The rest was plot summary. (Have you read Jason Thompson's Complete Guide to Manga? 1001 Comics's exactly like it, except less useful for manga.) I can check again, but I don't think that there was any other commentary. Did you want a direct quote, in the reviewer's own words, or something else? Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 17:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
A quote would just help differentiating from the other reviews introduced. Lucia Black (talk) 17:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
@Lucia Black: Sorry about the late reply. I tend to forget sometimes... :( What specifically would quoting do that paraphrasing cannot? I'm not criticising you, I am genuinely wondering, and I'm worried about the reception section being "over-quoted", as there's already a huge amount of quotes there.(Personally, I feel that the presence of so much material linking Ito to the influence of Lovecraft is very interesting and perhaps would merit a mention? Bioshock does something similar.) Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 15:52, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
There's already multiple surces covering any comparison to Lovecraft (and its a common feature among his work), so a quote would help differentiate between the countless other comparisons. Lucia Black (talk) 18:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)


A barnstar for you![edit]

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I came across your edits while doing some page patrol. When stalking your talk page (Face-wink.svg) I noticed that you worked hard to improve Wikipedia. So this is a "thank you" from me for all your hard work. Chamith (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh my gosh. *blush* Thank you. Your kind words have really made my day. :) Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:39, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thanks for your help and input on Chi (Chobits). =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. I really enjoyed working with you too. :) Chobits is one of my favorite manga, and quite frankly, Chi is adorable! Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:26, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
I agree here, I have always admired Chi. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:51, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Confusing sentence[edit]

I noticed you placed good info in the article Chobits but this sentence goes against its-self.

"Chi was decided to be a personal computer, and not an android, as Clamp felt that people would not easily develop an emotional attachment to a computer, as compared to an android"

Which did you mean android or PC? In short it reads: Chi was decided to be a PC as Clamp felt that people would not easily develop an emotional attachment to a computer as compared to an android, which doesn't make much sense. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi! @Knowledgekid87:, unless the translation is off, that's exactly what Clamp intended. Weird, right? Clamp notes that androids tend to be personified by society, whereas PCs are thought of as machines. Does that help? Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 02:14, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
I think the translation is off as the statement contradicts its-self. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:16, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
@Knowledgekid87: Um, I really have no way of verifying that the translation is off, unfortunately. We'll just have to assume the best since it's the official translation, I guess. I feel that Clamp wanted to highlight Chi's primary being as something society sees as being primarily a machine, which ties into the main question of the series: "is it right to fall in love with nonhuman entities?". It's easier to justify the robot as an object of positive emotional feelings (see, for example, the entire Doll series) than a computer. That's more of the feel I got from the text. Does that help? Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
It does a bit, do you think it would fit in though in the article about Chi regarding her concept? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:50, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
I added the bit in Chi's article regarding the cat reference and how clamp felt about personal computers. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Looks nice. :) I meant to reply earlier, but I've been a bit overwhelmed lately. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 02:34, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

gif[edit]

Man I really like this gif. I think the whole moving forward to the character conveys what is being said perfectly. Sure of course I would remove it if editors feel strongly over it. But of course I feel like personally I want to be directed to this policy for better understanding of why so first. Jhenderson 777 15:10, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

You inspired a discussion here. You are welcome to join if you want. Jhenderson 777 16:39, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi@Jhenderson777:!
Thanks for taking the time to leave me a message about the discussion I apparently inspired. :) I'm just happy people feel so passionately about it. I'm not a copyright lawyer, nor do I play one on television, but I had this in mind when I wrote that. (I've actually never seen a non-free video game gif on this site before P.T.) I'm not a huge fan of the gif, to be honest. I feel like it chops out a lot of the environmental detail and lighting that, say, a screenshot would not, and that a screenshot of the same event would do a better job of conveying the scene in a less jarring manner. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 17:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I am just trying to see how a screenshot would convey the following quote: "Gameplay depicting Lisa in her first full reveal of the game where the gamer must move closer to her to further on. The game sometimes forces the player to confront the scary parts with no defense and form of attack.": An image can not show that the player is moving forward to the ghost. Thought? Jhenderson 777
@Jhenderson777:, you would like to focus on Lisa as a central element of gameplay, right? (I don't see anything in the source about having to move forward to progress, so we can't source that to what you have given, sorry.) We would have to tweak the caption a bit, but it could work. For example:
  • "In this screenshot, the ghost and primary antagonist Lisa makes her debut. Although the player character cannot "die", being caught by her can result in an scare or being transported to the beginning of the loop.[digitalspy]."
  • "In this screenshot, the ghost and primary antagonist Lisa makes her debut. The player character has no means of defense nor a possibility of hiding from her, in contrast to previous Silent Hill games, in which hiding from antagonists was possible." [IGN: 7 moments]
Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks man. In all honesty I did have another source that I was going to place the proof of what I put below the image that I didn't have the time to put on there yet. P.T. does not let you do that. It does not even present it as a possibility. P.T. forces you, as your sole means of progression, to face and embrace its holistic terrors, your only mechanic of interaction being closer investigation. No defence. No form of attack. Just the means to confront your fears, immerse yourself in them, and try to come to understand them. That, again, is what real horror is about. You are correct that I want fixation on Lisa and I know we can work on something out for the best of us. Jhenderson 777 18:10, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
@Jhenderson777: I'm sure we can think of an excellent solution too. :) Thanks for providing the source. Looking at it, I don't think we can explicitly link the two together (appearance of Lisa+progression of game). We have Lisa, and then we have progression of the game. Maybe something like "To progress further, the player must investigate the frightening event."[GamesRadar] It's not explicitly connected to Lisa, and so it would probably go better in the text section of the gameplay. For the caption, I really like the second one. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:35, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I added an image. But I don't think it's visible enough. It seems that the IGN image though could maybe be clearer. So I might try that. Also I should note that that's her second time appearing. IGN says first "full appearance" or something on the line because we see a glimpse of some of her before then closing a bathroom door. IGN shows that scene too. Jhenderson 777 18:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a bit dark and hard to see. Oops. Okay, I see. How about "In this screenshot, Lisa appears in full sight." Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I think it looks decent. But I am hoping we can trim down the amount of words somehow. Jhenderson 777 19:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
@Jhenderson777: I was referring to the old screenshot. Sorry about the confusion. I'm now wondering if the current screenshot is a part of a Reddit user's edited collection, per the source given. ("and now, fans are editing screenshots to look as if they are actual photographs.") What I understood from the article is that the following pictures were part of the user-edited-screenshot trend. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:07, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
What if we ignore the first full appearance and show this instead? her face should maybe be visible for this one this time around. Jhenderson 777 18:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
@Jhenderson777: I guess so. Just remember to update the rationale for the link/article you got it from, okay? Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:45, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
It's from this IGN article, right? Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 18:48, 27 May 2015 (UTC)


────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes. Why? Jhenderson 777

Oh, just wondering. Noting the source is really important. :) Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 19:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

P.T. GA[edit]

You might need to elaborate on those details. Also a plot can be added if there really was one. The closest to a plot is what the radio explained in a house and there can be moments that can left for intrepatation. There also is no cut scenes. Keep in mind that this is a mini-game with no cut scenes. It will never have as much information compared to a full game article. It will most likely will never be detailed enough for FA either. Jhenderson 777 23:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
@Jhenderson777: Ok. :) If there's thematic analysis, there should (logically) be a plot, right? Cutscenes are not a requirement for plot. It's okay to note that it has an ambiguous plot, and that the character experiences X, Y, and Z events and hears A, B, and C. Sure, it will take a bit more work to put together than the average video game article. I'm all for mentioning those moments and sourced speculation. And there is quite a bit of speculation.
Another concern of mine is the prose, which is part of the GA criteria; the article is still choppy in parts and uses (what I feel are) an excessive amount of quotes that could be easily paraphrased. At the very least, I would strongly suggest waiting until after the copyedit. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 01:46, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
You are summarizing why I am nomination the article. I just want recommendations on how to make it such. I am not new with the procedure before. I successully helped X-Men: First Class be a GA and nominated The Amazing Spider-Man (2012 film) before (with full knowledge that there could be more added at the time). Although I will admit that I am a rookie in video game articles compared to film articles maybe compared to you. I notice there are more sources that you have shown. I promise you I could find use for them if they are useful. Just let me read them later on. Regarding plot. I think "settings" would be more fitting. My summarizing of the game will help explain that.
The game starts out with saying. "The only me is you. Are you sure the only you is you?" The character that we play wakes up with the radio explaining a guy killing a family.(supposedly Lisa and the baby). Opens the door to find they are in a house in a corridor. The player finds out that they go back the same way they are in. Each time something different happens. A knock in the bathroom door. Someones in the door. More cockroaches start to appear. Baby crying and ghost moaning appears. Someone closes the door in the bathroom when the player peaks in it. After the ghost lisa is first seeen and then (in later loop) sometimes attacks the player from behind. Weird stuff happens like red lightings, a hole gauged in a painting, walls with words on it etc. Eventually you will be running in the halls continually with eyes in the picture frames until you peek in the hole leading to the bathroom which depicts the sounds of a lady being suffocating in there. Later on there is puzzles.
I haven't even said everything but I will leave it at that. This could be me but I think a game with a gameplay like this would make settings a better choice for a section title. Because the player is not supposed to know what's going on. Just speculate. For example: the player appears to be the killer. etc. Jhenderson 777 02:44, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Quick question. You said you welcome the theories that are contained in the articles. Where actually do you want them? In the theme section? Don't see them going anywhere else without it being speculation. Also on creating a plot/setting/overview section. What do you have in mind for addition and what sources do you have in mind for use (if any)? If you want a good explanation for the plot then watch the first half of the video linked in the first source you linked. I also see two articles for reception potentially. I will add them at some point. Jhenderson 777 18:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

I added a plot. I am sure it can be impoved in no time. Jhenderson 777 23:49, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
@Jhenderson777: Wonderful! I went ahead and condensed it a bit. Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 01:35, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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I am curious to know once this source is placed in the article. How would you write the sentence for the inclusion? Jhenderson 777 21:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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