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Next UK General election[edit]

Hi, I notice you on the next United Kingdom general election talk page. Bondegezou and I have been discussing the possibility of a prose summary of the major shifts and trends in public opinion over the Parliament (where that can be seen reported in reliable sources) on the article page. I would tend to agree, and have started to draft, but would like others' views before I put too much work into it. Please comment! DrArsenal (talk) 13:23, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Falkland Islands Sovereignty Dispute ~ Opinion needed[edit]

Hi, I am writting this letter because I am not very pleased with the fact that Curry Monster undid an important piece of information which I posted in the Falklands Islands Sovereignty Dispute. I added this vital (54 countries recognizing Argentina's claim over the Islands isn't nothing..) piece of information:

On February 22, 2013, 54 African countries recognized the sovereignty of Argentina over the Falklands at the South America-Africa Summit (SAS)
that was held in Equatorial Guinea, these 54 African countries signed the Malabo Declaration, which included Argentina's claim. [1] [2] [3] 


I would like to ask you to take a look at it and to hear your opinion.

Thank you in advance for your help. Amorparamipatria (talk)


Post Scriptum: Here you have a link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute&action=history

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Hello,
I would start by making you aware of WP:CANVASS. In principle, this message would fall foul of this rule as it is not neutral.
In this case, it makes little difference. I agree that with Wee Curry Monster that not all statements made are automatically relevant or "important", let alone "vital". It has not been established, through secondary sources on the subject as a whole, that this particular statement is relevant to the dispute as a whole. I note that multiple African governments, both before and after the statement in question, have made statements or suggestions that would seem to contradict the statement you desecribe. I would thus endorse his revert. Kahastok talk 22:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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Happy New Year Kahastok![edit]

Thank you very much, and I wish the same to you and to everyone else reading this page. Kahastok talk 11:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Any chance of more help and advice[edit]

Hello Kahastok, I know you added a bit to some of the discussions on this and seemed to support obeying WP:UNITS. So I am being cheeky and asking if you can help me with it in the Brit footballer pieces. I'm asking because Michael Glass is still refusing to allow me to follow WP:UNITS for Brit players and at the same insisting that pieces about non-Brit players follows it!!! He's even going around the articles swapping the PFA (footballers bible ;-) ) reference that uses feet and inches for a link to the Premier League site which only uses meters. Other users then insist the height should be meters like the reference!!! That isn't how WP:UNITS says to do it. Speccy4Eyes (talk) 07:26, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks[edit]

Hi Kahastok, thank you for your tip. Unfortunately, I've carefully read the document you're mentioned (according to you, WP:Signatures does say that the signature should be at the end of the post, rather than in the middle) and haven't found the slightest instruction about not including postscripts (BTW, Wikipedia:Signatures is not a policy, but a behavioral guideline (and therefore It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply). It's really weird to be so strict with regard to a given policy (in fact, it's simply your own interpretation of a guideline), and, at the same time, trying to get me blocked without being able to mention any single policy that would support such a claim. In fact, your behavior seems to be related to a real policy in THIS wikipedia: the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on multiple pages or topics they may edit or multiple debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work (if you don't remember the wording, it's WP:HOUND). Please, focus on your work and I'll do the same. Best regards --Discasto (talk) 22:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

BTW, I've just noticed that you're in fact [redacted Kahastok talk 19:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)]... everything is much understandable now :-P --Discasto (talk) 07:40, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Who are you claiming I'm WP:HOUNDing? I don't see any editors in common between your SPI, WP:MOSNUM and Naming (parliamentary procedure), the three pages - other than your talk page - that I've edited in the last week. And the post on your talk page came directly from the SPI. If you think that's it's you, then that is a pretty serious personal attack by you against me and I would urge you to withdraw it.
Your claim that I am "trying to get [you] blocked" is clearly false, and also a personal attack. At no stage since I found out that you had unretired yourself have I tried to get you blocked. I called for you to be restricted to a single account, which in the circumstances I think is only reasonable, and I don't see why you should object to it. Plenty of us manage to work with one account perfectly well. And it's not like you have a right to expect this project to help you disrupt another (by evading your block there).
Re: the rule on signatures, WP:SIGHOW says that they way to sign is by, [a]t the end of your comments simply type four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~.
But beyond that it is common sense. People like to see who wrote what and that's much harder when the signature is in the middle of the post. To the point where there really isn't any point in your signing your posts at all. Why is it not more prominent there? Probably because practically nobody else on Wikipedia does it your way. I asked you to avoid doing it in future, politely and with reasons (not just per policy). I'm not the first to have done so. And you responded with a string of personal attacks and accusations and announced that it was within policy so yah boo sucks to you. Frankly, with that attitude, I wouldn't be too surprised if you were indeffed here before too long, without any help from me. Kahastok talk 19:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

No drama from my side. It's really sad to see two supposedly grown-ups keeping a so clownish hounding and harassment... Sad. --Discasto (talk) 23:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

@Discasto: if you are either not willing or not able to edit my user talk page without abusing me, please do not edit it at all. Thanks, Kahastok talk 19:14, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for your help on my recent edits. You're an awesome wikipedian. BedsBookworm (talk) 14:41, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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It changes the meaning[edit]

[1] It does, but it was warranted because it's not only the Argentine government who argues that Argentina has maintained a claim over the Falkland Islands since 1833 but also half (or, I'd venture to say, more than a half) of the academic universe. Of course, the British-POV is is strengthened when you put the argument in the mouth of Argentina instead of academics, but oh well, I tried to be neutral. ----Langus TxT 20:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Categorization of French Guiana[edit]

Overseas territories are not countries. French Guiana is not a country. It is part of France, yes. Integral, even. But also Dependent. I see your point that the name of the category "Dependent territories in South America" isn't perfect, but it is the best (and most consistent) way of categorizing this territory that is 1.) on the South American continent, but is 2.) not, itself, a country. Just like the Falklands. Please unrevert. Thank you. giso6150 (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Your argument would surely equally apply to Buenos Aires Province, Acre and East Berbice-Corentyne. After all, none are countries and all are on the South American continent. Why not include them as "dependent territories in South America" too?
French Guiana is to France what Hawaii is to the US. Yes, it's on a different continent - just as Hawaii is not in North America. Yes it's a long way from Paris - just as Hawaii is a long way from Washington. Hawaii does not belong in a category called "Dependent territories in Oceania", and French Guiana doesn't belong in category "Dependent territories in South America".
Don't get me wrong - this is a common and understandable mistake to make - but it is a mistake to consider French Guiana to be a dependent territory. Kahastok talk 22:03, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Falkland Islands Sovereignty Dispute ~ Clarification[edit]

Hello, I have seen you have removed my recent contribution to the subject. I previously added it to the Falkland Islands article and it was removed as it was apparently not deemed to be in the right place and was considered misreported. I then added it in the Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute, with some balancing information and you removed it. However, my contribution was referencing original (UN) sources, in addition to the news media reporting the information. If you felt that the information was still misrepresented I understand that the normal practice on Wikipedia is to add balancing information rather than removing it outright. So I would ask you to do just that. I will repost my contribution, as I feel it is the right place and it is a useful piece of information for any user visiting that page, and I would encourage you to counterbalance that information if you personally feel it is not accurate.

Thank you. ESND (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:27, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello,
My reply to this is best placed on Talk:Falkland Islands Sovereignty Dispute. I see you've found it, so I'll assume we'll continue there. Thanks, Kahastok talk 20:31, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

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Gibraltar and Llanito[edit]

Hi Kahastok. I understand Gibraltar is part of the British Empire and personally have no issue with that. The problem is that you are denying that Llanitos speak their own language as a vernacular, which is Llanito, and have done so for centuries, something akin to denying Hong Kong citizens spoke Cantonese during the British period. I can only assume you have never been there otherwise you would not push such an opinion. I go there often and can assure you most people over 40 speak quite poor English. I think it is unfair you attempt to deny any part of the United Kingdom its unique culture on the basis of fear of territorial claims by x country. I have to say it smells of hyper-nationalistic (to put it mildly) POV pushing which has no place on wikipedia. Gibraltarians can remain British while conserving their language, heritage and culture, no need to worry.Asilah1981 (talk) 12:06, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I think it sounds like hyper-nationalistic POV on your part as it appears that you are claiming that the Gibraltarians are all Spanish really and just being difficult over sovereignty for the sake of being difficult.
If you were able to provide a cite to a reliable source, of course, that would be a different matter. But the fact that you have now repeatedly refused to do so does not persuade me not to push back on this. Kahastok talk 12:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Ok. You are wrong on this, I will simply provide sources. Asilah1981 (talk) 12:50, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
If you disagree with removal of uncited content, finding sources to demonstrate your point should be the first resort, not the last resort.
And now that you've added sources, you need to do better than that. Pointing at an offline book is fine, but you need to give page numbers and (if requested) quotes. Pointing at a source in another language is fine, but you need to give me - and anyone else who wants to check this - a bit of help in understanding which text in the source is supposed to be backing which statement, including a translation if requested. I have noted on the talk page a section where I believe that the text you have added does not reflect what is in the source. There are still problems here that very much need to be resolved before I will be happy to consider this closed. Kahastok talk 13:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Kahastok I wrongly assumed you don't speak Spanish so I added the original books (in English) rather than the quote in Spanish in another article. I have no also added the article which quotes them. Lipski is from 1987. I have also added a very indepth study of use of Spanish and English among young gibraltarians done in 2000. Again, it is in Spanish.Asilah1981 (talk) 14:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
I refer you to my previous message, specifically the part that says: "Pointing at a source in another language is fine, but you need to give me - and anyone else who wants to check this - a bit of help in understanding which text in the source is supposed to be backing which statement, including a translation if requested." Kahastok talk 16:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Kahastok You need to write my name if you want me to be aware that you have answered me! You were right about the sentence, I accidentally misrepresented what is says exactly so have removed it. But the general line of the article does go in that direction. Sadly, I think it is not possible to google translate. As I mentioned, for me this is not political but I have been to Gib a dozen times (last time maybe 5 years ago) and I know the place quite well. I personally think the place should stay British, because its what makes it unique. But trust me when I tell you locals are very Andalusian and, at least the older folk really disliked English expats by what I remember, whereas ironically they had no beef with their Spanish neighbours (just the government). I remember many speaking awful English, and others feeling really uptight when speaking it. Its as the sources say, for them its a "political" language and a language of government. Maybe like the Queen's English would be in one of the British colonies in the Caribbean. Its an interesting place, particularly if you know both languages and cultures. Things are probably changing now though, kids now speak English natively - but that is a natural trend pretty much everywhere. Asilah1981 (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

July 2016[edit]

There is a discussion at WP:3RRNB, which you may be able to comment upon. WCMemail 13:10, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

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Gibralter[edit]

You need to stop reverting at this article unless you can make a case that your actions meet any of the exemptions described at WP:3RR. Continued reverting jeopardizes your editing privilege. Tiderolls 21:26, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

I've reverted twice today - as compared to four times for Asilah I think - but I will avoid reverting again. I think your best option may be to protect the article though as at History of Gibraltar this has been the only way to persuade Asilah to discuss the edits s/he wants. Thanks, Kahastok talk 21:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Different options are being reviewed. Please be patient. Thanks Tiderolls 21:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)