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Note to self:images[edit]

Note to me. Per User:TenPoundHammer/Country, country music artist articles need pictures. I need to go through my photo albums and see if I can find any useful ones. Karanacs (talk) 16:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Your extra credit bit on Catholic Church...[edit]

I suggest reading the following works to help with what you're trying .. (Le Goff's a bit outdated and the work you're citing is somewhat of a cross between a popular history and a low level textbook.) You have Eileen Power's Medieval Women which is a good start. Medieval women by Derek Baker World Cat; Queens, concubines, and dowagers : the king's wife in the early Middle Ages by P. Stafford World Cat; Women in medieval life : a small sound of the trumpet by Margaret Labarge World Cat; Women in medieval history & historiography by Susan Stuard World Cat. That should get you started, although I'll admit I don't pay much attention to "women's history" so I have little on my shelves about it. I do have Malcolm Barber's The Two Cities World Catwhich is a good recent comprehensive history of the High Middle Ages, which does have mentions of women's status and the church. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Jean Lafitte[edit]

Well done on adding references, I've expanded intro to cover whole article but what i've added needs to be tightened a little. Looks close to GA, were you going to nominate soon or planning to take to FAC? Tom B (talk) 12:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Tom, thanks for your help on the article. (Especially thanks with the alt text stuff - I hate writing those.) I'm actually hoping to bring this article to FA at some point, but not quite yet. I still have notes from the Davis biography to incorporate, and then the article will probably need a really good copyedit. I tend to be pretty verbose in my first pass at an article and have to trim a lot of unnecessary detail and convoluted wording. This is one of four articles that I'm currently prepping for FA; One of them only needs a good copyedit, so it will probably be next. Maybe I'll finish working on Lafitte after that. If you're interested in trying for GA before that, feel free to nominate the article as-is. Karanacs (talk) 20:36, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
righto, i think Lafitte's at GA level and that it's worth bringing articles as fast up the quality rating as possible, i'm an immediatist in that sense [1]. some fa editors don't value GA as much, maybe because they think it's a better use of everyone's time/resource to go straight to fa. what do you think? the convention article is short, but i'm assuming there's not much more one can reasonably say, will have a look. i noticed the coincidence of Reform Act of 1832. Tom B (talk) 00:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't go for GA reviews much because there's often a backlog and I'm usually pretty aware of what else needs to be done to get the rest of the way to FA. I respect the process, and I've gotten great feedback from GA reviews in the past, but it's usually easier for me to focus on the FA criteria. If you nominate Lafitte for GA I'll help with any of the feedback if I can. I need to go find all my notes; I think they are buried somewhere on my desk. Karanacs (talk) 13:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Please take a look at User:Richardshusr/Catholic Church and women[edit]

I have started putting together an article on Catholic Church and women in my userspace. Since you expressed an interest in this topic at Talk:Catholic Church, I thought you might be kind enough to look at it and give me your thoughts. I know that this needs an overview to introduce the topic and provide the reader with a summary of the article. If you would care to write one, I would be very grateful.--Richard (talk) 07:09, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Richard, I'll be happy to look at that when I have a few free momets - may be several days. Thank you for taking the initiative to start that! Karanacs (talk) 14:17, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Murder of Imette St. Guillen[edit]

Hey, see that you're working on it. I'm tied up doing some milhist work in a sandbox at the moment, but let me know if I can help with prose or whatever. Skinny87 (talk) 21:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Right now I'm reading through more recent sources to try to see what should stay and what should be yanked. There's a lot of info out there... Karanacs (talk) 21:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Message[edit]

Hi Karanacs, I was thrilled to see your name pop up on my watchlist recently. Not so thrilled to see the "I'm mostly gone" message, but I understand completely. Just wanted to leave you a message to say that you're missed - along with the long list of other editors who have vanished in the past year. Very much missed. Truthkeeper (talk) 22:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Truthkeeper. You are one of the pieces of Wikipedia I have missed :) I need to figure out a way to write articles without stepping back into some of the drama that demoralized me in the first place. Karanacs (talk) 22:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
It's very hard to do. I went through my mess of archives this afternoon - I spent much of the last year quite upset and angry - and not until I read some of it, did I realize that the demoralization was endless and very embarrassingly public. I like it here as a hobby and that's what keeps bringing me back, but I take day by day. Truthkeeper (talk) 22:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
I've spent most of my life angry, which I think every right-thinking person should be. Karanacs, I look back fondly on the work we did with Moni3 on the Donner Party, and I very much hope you can find a way back that fits in with what you want to do here. Malleus Fatuorum 23:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, Mal, Donner Party and Ima Hogg are two of my favorite WP times - I loved the collegial collaboration. Too bad Truth and I couldn't find that on Catholic Church - I should never have stepped into that article. I have a drama/stress limit, and if I reach it my brain collapses in on itself (very messy, too much cleanup) and I have giant tantrums (which just gives my kids ideas). So much IRL drama over the past two years, and WP ended up being the easiest stressor to cut. Life is back on a mostly even keel, and I'm starting to work on another article again. Hopefully I will be around a little more often :) Karanacs (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Michael Pollack[edit]

Even though the discussion closed as a "delete" I talked with the closing administrator, and he said that it would be fine to write a new version of the article and propose it to Articles for Creation or for DRV. In any case I started Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Michael_Pollack#Michael_Pollack_.28new_version.29 and attached a note. I found additional sources that state that he was active in three states. And as for your latest reply at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michael_Pollack I would like to answer your inquiries. (I am answering them here because the discussion at AFD was closed - if you want to move this to another venue, it's fine)

  • 1. "We have different definitions of extensive and trivial." - I was referring to Wikipedia's definition of "trivial" and unless one explicitly states "I am using a different definition" it becomes confusing if you use your own definition. Wikipedia's definition of a "trivial" mention is a source which says very little to nothing about a subject. If an article or book discusses a subject in a significant manner (maybe at least paragraph or two) then it becomes "non-trivial" no matter what the article actually says about the subject. WP:N says '"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material.' (underline added by me) Think about how the examples at Wikipedia:N#cite_note-1 are different - the book says a lot about the subject, while an article that mentions the subject in passing says little and is therefore trivial.
    • WP:N does state that "directories and databases, advertisements, announcements columns, and minor news stories" do not prove notability - But as for the last one I don't think an article in a major metropolitan newspaper would be a "minor" news story. In Pollack's case he has articles from the Houston Chronicle, the Phoenix Business Journal, and The Arizona Republic discussing him.
  • 2. "flowing hair?" - Not trivial - it's part of his flamboyant persona that has been mentioned in newspapers both in Houston and Phoenix. In particular in Houston he had an image which he used to sell apartment complexes, and the "flowing hair" was a part of that image. That image was a part of his celebrity.
  • 3. "drummer in a local rock band?" - Various biography articles have "personal life" sections that document family, hobbies, etc. His primary job is selling real estate and an article about him would focus on that, but articles on his personal hobbies do add to the article.
  • 4. "He owns apartments and had one tv commercial that people thought was funny." - That understates his image and his persona in Houston. This Houston Chronicle states explicitly "He became a local celebrity, hosting a television talk show, emceeing beauty pageants and making the rounds of Houston's night clubs." - That's not merely "people thought was funny" and looking through these sources, it turns out he starred in multiple commercials in the Houston area, not just one. Today in Greater Phoenix his company owns multiple real estate developments throughout the Phoenix region. And also the sources revealed he was active in California. That's activity in three states with extensive reliable sources about his activities in two of them.

WhisperToMe (talk) 08:10, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

There are lots of articles in the Houston Chronicle and other papers that are considered minor stories. By the WP definition, the articles are trivial coverage - a few sentences, at most, about the man - most of the text is about the commercial. Most of what was in the original article was done not in a newsy way, but in superficial coverage - minor, trivial, whatever. Karanacs (talk) 14:54, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
What I should have done was try to re-write the article as soon as possible; based on a re-write one would be able to tell how much of each article discussed the subject. Anyway, in two of the articles (Sheridan article, which was about Pollack's proposed plans in Houston in the late 1980s, and the Kaplan article, which discussed his subsequent career in Arizona and recapped how he became well known in Houston) Pollack the person was clearly the primary subject, and so those two articles discuss him in depth. One could argue that, say, the Barlow article would be "trivial" is the primary subject of the article (it might help to have multiple persons check it and see what they think). WhisperToMe (talk) 18:04, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Since there is a noticeboard I started Wikipedia:Notability/Noticeboard#Notability_of_Michael_Pollack to get more feedback WhisperToMe (talk) 03:38, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

I started Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2012_December_9 WhisperToMe (talk) 04:12, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Pisco Sour[edit]

Karanacs, I answered your FAC comment for Pisco Sour. Thank you very much for taking the time to evaluate the article.--MarshalN20 | Talk 21:01, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi, great to see you back, however briefly! Would you be able to update the status of your oppose here? Given the relatively few reviews this has had, it will make it easier to decide whether we keep it open or not. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)‎

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Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle[edit]

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Thoughts on Sowell[edit]

You wrote, "I fundamentally disagree that anyone who fought in the Texas Revolution is notable in terms of getting a Wikipedia article." You are correct. I am proud of my ancestors, but they are mostly notable to my family and have no Wiki articles (and should not). Some of those persons are in the Handbook, but that site is sluggish. I submit corrections and source documentation to the Handbook to support necessary changes (not about my ancestors-- I do not specialize in genealogy) and doubt any were acted upon.

However, and just as one example: Because of my being a direct descendent of two Rangers involved, I researched many items most find unimportant. I probably have more detail and insight as to the movements of General Gaona's battalion than anyone-- because three of my family road as rear guard with Gaona pursuing. Few history books mention the movements of that northern prong, but if one was looking for camp sites for archeological purposes, or trying to understand why Gaona was "Lost in the desert" I would be the guy. I have not published (print) anything on this topic (and I may not) but I can reconstruct, with sources, much that has not been in print.

My point is, because the war archives burned, we are reconstructing the history, and it may take time to recognize what, that IS important, has been regained. Specifically regarding Andrew Jackson Sowell, I am most impressed by the fact that he is one of the relatively rare native-English-speaking persons who settled beyond the Colorado. From that, I am intrigued.

No need to respond. I just wanted to share a point of view that had me, ever-so-slightly, seeking to spare the article. --cregil (talk) 00:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you that there is much scholars still have to discover about what was truly important in the Texas Revolution. Until they have written more on these "new" discoveries, though, I think that information doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Our job is to summarize what the scholarly sources say, not what the primary sources say. I do look forward to reading the newer scholarly books, though - I've been fascinated with how much has come out in the last few years on the Alamo that has changed how people have viewed parts of the battle. Karanacs (talk) 22:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

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Seasons greetings...[edit]

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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

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Wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013!

Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year.

Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; we miss you a lot in here, but trust that you are happy and settled! Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the FA process, with the help of many dedicated Wikipedians!

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

What a nice illustration of why I am so frustrated with Wikipedia....yet another sock of yet another proven disruptive user ... and yet again those who are trying to defend content get blocked or at least lack the support to get rid of the problem so that we can just get on with the damn job of writing and maintaining good content. Karanacs (talk) 22:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

St. Andrew's Church, Lahore[edit]

Hello and thanks for tagging this for notability back in Jan 2008. The tag's still there. You may want to consider taking it to the Notability Noticeboard or AfD to get it resolved. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 22:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

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Seeking input[edit]

Your input would be greatly appreciated here. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:39, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Precious[edit]

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historical romance
Thank you for quality articles on literature, such as Irish Thoroughbred, for your "obsession with the history of Texas before it reached statehood", for your collaboration, for example on a Lady of Quality, and for showing Late Afternoon Sun on Research Park, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (5 November 2008)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 427th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Fish Camp[edit]

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Catherine Parr[edit]

I see that you don't specialize in Catherine Parr, but took out a huge chunk of her page. I understand that it was perhaps too much to put in the history of her family however this has been an ongoing issue with the English queens of King Henry VIII. If you would like Parr or any of the others to not be compared to Boleyn, perhaps all of that should be taken out of her page as well, especially the fact that she was of better birth. That is one authors opinion (Ives who incorrectly states that she was the granddaughter of a Duke; he didn't become Duke until 1514, after her birth) and there are several that dispute Boleyn's better birth claim saying Parr's family had the better lineage and presence at court, etc. (Starkey and Strickland). It would be nice to not see any comparison on any page actually (of the English queens). -- Lady Meg (talk) 19:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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When God Writes Your Love Story[edit]

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Thank you for contributing to the FAC for the Carabane article back in 2009; it was my first featured article and I was glad to see it go up on the main page. I have submitted another article for featured status: When God Writes Your Love Story. If you would be willing to contribute to the corresponding FAC, I would appreciate your input.

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Happy Holidays...[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014[edit]

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Article for deletion[edit]

Just a courtesy note (sorry I didn't do it earlier), but I have nominated for deletion an article that you promoted to FA status - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948. StAnselm (talk) 01:23, 19 March 2014 (UTC)