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Map: Durrani Empire[edit]

The map of the empire in the peak time exactly the same as the current international border which is not correct. Also, according to some references, Mashhad was under control of Shahrukh Afshar until the conquer by Qajar Dynasty. [1] [2] [3] [4]

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Your feedback matters: Final reminder to take the global Wikimedia survey[edit]

hi[edit]

Hi. There is no advertising in it. CUSTOS Bank Plc is registered under RAK law in Free Trade Zone... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.69.216.67 (talk) 17:43, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Is it also registered in Russia, United Kingdom and Poland?[1]? Please stop spamming. — kashmiri TALK 18:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Shah Aqeeq Baba[edit]

Hello my page Shah Aqeeq Baba is going to delete can you help me how can I save my page can you give me voters?? Hammadsaeed TALK Help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.224.238.152 (talk) 04:27, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Kaula is an adjective. Kulamarga is a noun.[edit]

Also, Kulamarga is the term used by the top Saiva expert, Alexis Sanderson.VictoriaGraysonTalk 14:33, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictoriaGrayson: I have noticed that you keep promoting Alexis and deleting references to the works of his predecessors (Jaideva Singh, Mark Dyczkowski, etc.), which is what I intend to object to at one point. The thing is, Wikipedia policies do not require "AlexisName" but "CommonName".
Kaula is commonly used as a noun, although by texts belonging to the doctrine itself rather than by outside sources which predominantly use kula. (A slight semantical difference is there between kulam and kaulam but we can safely ignore it here). For evidence of kaulam, see e.g. Monier-Williams.[2]. — kashmiri TALK 18:22, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
The reference I use was republished in the Brill encyclopedia of Hinduism, which is a tertiary reference.VictoriaGraysonTalk 19:02, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Alexis Sanderson is a WP:PRIMARY source on Sanskrit usage. For the same reason I won't cite Kularnava Tantra, even though it uses kaula as noun all over and, as you might know, is the scripture for Kaula. On the other hand, Monier-Williams is a recognised WP:SECONDARY source for the Sanskrit language. See, Wikipedia does not really care what Mr Sanderson thinks people should use but only records what terms are used. I encourage you to read WP:COMMONNAME again.
As a side note, I am not sure what is your level of knowledge of Sanskrit, but kulamarga means "practice of Kula" whereas the article also intends to cover the doctrine. Sure, in everyday usage it's ok to say that someone follows kulamarga, kula or kaula, but when writing articles for Wikipedia we should keep in mind these subtle differences. — kashmiri TALK 19:21, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
The reference I use was republished in the Brill encyclopedia of Hinduism, which is a tertiary reference.VictoriaGraysonTalk 19:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, this reference indeed is a tertiary source, and uses "Kaula" both as an adjective and a noun. Also, take a look at the titles of Kaula works quoted there: Paścimāmnāya-Kaula, Kaulakamala, Ūrmikaulārṇava, Nityākaula, etc. They are a perfect example of the usage of kaula as a noun denoting the teachings/tradition. Although kula is the predominant term of course. — kashmiri TALK 19:28, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────These two are the same article:

But its the same article.VictoriaGraysonTalk 19:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Refs[edit]

Are required to support notability. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:37, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

@Doc James: Yes, for an article. For an uncontroversial detail, please read WP:PRESERVE, esp. about the suggestion to use the {{cn}} tag. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 10:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
I am not convinced it is notable on the article about the disease. Fine to put it in the article about the show. Substantial coverage is required to show it is more than just trivia. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:12, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
@Doc James: Yep, that's I don't know to what extent we should keep such occurrences in popular culture in articles. This could merit a discussion on WP:MED. My feeling is, a different bar should apply to common diseases and to rare diseases. As to this case, I have been observing a worrying tendency to favour Euro/American references to those from non-Europe/USA countries - even though the Japanese TV show, featuring a famous Japanese actor, will likely be much more popular in absolute number of viewers than some episode of a Stargate Universe series.
Additionally, honestly I would prefer if you respect WP:PRESERVE, which is an official Wikipedia policy, especially in a case when two editors considered this mention valuable. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 11:42, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Kashmiri you had written above that you believe that you should be exempt from the WP:VERIFY policy and from WP:MEDRS. You are saying it again here, a different way. As I wrote above, that is not going to happen, no matter what forum you take that to. Jytdog (talk) 15:18, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
@Jytdog: I had not written that, and I also think you missed the word "biomedical" when reading WP:MEDRS. Before invoking it read it again please, carefully as it is a very useful guideline. — kashmiri TALK 16:56, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

We already have guidance on including media portrayal of diseases here Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles#Media_portrayals There needs to be significant third party source not just "I watched the show and one of the actors pretended they had disease X" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:24, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

@Doc James: Yes, clearly sourcing was missing, but we also have WP:SIGNIFICANCE where we allow information likely to be significant to remain in Wikipedia. As to MEDMOS, it requires evidence of wide coverage in general media, so we should perhaps revisit the remaining claims in this section and remove all those without such evidence, correct? — kashmiri TALK 16:56, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes agree. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:04, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Deletion[edit]

Hello. Ref to your moving page. I missed it. Guess I was already working on a new page. Request deletion of the new page. Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 20:50, 27 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

@Anon=us: Yes, moving is the right way of renaming pages; copy-and-paste page moves are technically not allowed (H:MOVE). I guess the process will be smoother if you request delete, because as page creator you can easily do this as CSD G7, while I would need to provide a justification. Unless you are not familiar with the process, in which case just prod me. Regards, — kashmiri TALK 21:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Am not familiar with the process. Could you do it for me please? Many thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 21:30, 27 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us
@Anon=us: Do you think you could just blank the entire page (delete all text)? I will do the rest. — kashmiri TALK 22:01, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Done. I do not know what is the deletion procedure. Please can you do the rest? Many thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 22:06, 27 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us
You've tagged the page correctly, now we need to wait for the admins to actually delete the page. Normally takes around a day. — kashmiri TALK 22:08, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Another request. Can you please look up my talk page? I do not know how this works. Would appreciate help with the reference wrt issues made by @Doc James:. Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 09:02, 28 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

Read this[edit]

Read this.VictoriaGraysonTalk 11:56, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictoriaGrayson: Please take note of the statement under "This page in a nutshell" frame at the top of this essay. Civility is an official Wikipedia policy. — kashmiri TALK 12:01, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but this is unofficial guideline that is widely accepted.VictoriaGraysonTalk 12:02, 30 March 2017 (UTC)


Sudarshana Chakra[edit]

Hello. Hope this is not too much trouble. If and when possible, please can you contribute to the article? Like, what's the story with Sudarshana and Narasimha teaming up together in a circle? Vijayavalli is a mystery. From where did priests of chakra-purusha originate? Is it a jaina tradition by any chance? Or is it core pancharatra? Any connection possible with vaikhanasas, buddhism, skanda cult? Atharva connection possible? Any info would help. Many thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 15:25, 31 March 2017 (UTC)anon=us

@Anon=us: Thanks for invite but I'd rather someone with better access to RS work on it, sorry. — kashmiri TALK 01:25, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Sure, no probs. Thanks. Just for info may i know what is the RS you mean here?--Anon=us (talk) 06:01, 2 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us
"Reliable source", WP:RS. — kashmiri TALK 08:42, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Are sources currently used in the article ok / acceptable? Please suggest changes if any. Just offhand, for my info, would you have any info about priests of sudarshana? Thanks.--Anon=us (talk) 09:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)anon=us

United Kingdom Brexit negotiations[edit]

Please explain your edit summary[3] Qexigator (talk) 16:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

@Qexigator: Interwiki links should not be placed in the body of an article (including in the "External links" section). Read more on WP:ELPOINTS, WP:NONENGEL and WP:ILL. — kashmiri TALK 16:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Sultan Bahu group is back[edit]

Hey man, it appears that the Sultan Bahu group is back. They're harmless aside from annoying promotionalism, but that's still against site policy. Zaheer Abbass Gondal and Faqeer Noor Muhammad Sarwari Qadiri seem to be the latest examples. Am I jumping the gun by stating that there simply isn't any proof of notability for said individuals? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

@MezzoMezzo: Incredible. Indeed seems like the same person, and we now even have his full name! Speedy or AfD? — kashmiri TALK 03:55, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
@MezzoMezzo: Reported the case to ANI [4]. — kashmiri TALK 05:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

OK good questions : Zaheer Abbass Gondal and Faqeer Noor Muhammad Sarwari Qadiri are notable indeed . One may ask why?

You can find online as well in islamic books stores in pakistan and elsewhere the books of Faqeer Noor Muhammad Kalachvi ® he's the author of various books notably , IRFAN 1 , IRFAN 2 , MAKHZANUL ASRAR etc further you can find documentary on this Blessed Sufi Personality on youtube he had taken veil from this temporary abode a long ago i.e decades. Secondly he had made a good sincere effort to collect and translate the books of Hazrat Sultan Bahu ® which were very hard to find and its a not piece of cake to do that it takes a lifetime to achieve such work, he was notably the first translator of Hazrat Sultan Bahu ® to urdu language from original persian language.

[Just to add the "only" second translator of Hazrat Sultan Bahu ® books from Persian (original language) to urdu was Dr KB Naseem ® (he too passed away a few years back) his translations of the Hazrat Sultan Bahu ® book is the most accurate as he further collected the original work(books) of Sultan Bahu ® books and looked at all the different versions he had and put forth the most authentic version of the books and made the translations to Urdu Language]

About Zaheer Abbas? Well he is the ONLY translator that has taken this work of translation further with adding the Translations of all the Sultan Bahu ® books from Urdu to "English" Language. You can find his work in online website related to Hazrat Sultan Bahu.

To point the books are special works associated directly with Sultan Bahu ® and reading them has spiritual benefits such as spiritual enlightenment experienced by friends of Allah and similarly the translations too are notably remarkable piece of efforts and work and the Translators themselves are the first of the beneficiaries from the Translations as both in case of Hazrat Faqeer Noor Muhammad Kalachvi ® and Dr KB Naseem ® Stated they received spiritual blessings just by the translating the Works of the Great Islamic Mystic.

Hope this has been to some beneficence to you and a pleasure to read and an acknowledgement.

Note: Sultan Bahu ® never desired money, pomp or fame but to publicise free reading of his work (online link) within the Article: Sultan Bahu ® (Biography) supposedly should be okay? As it adds valuable reference to the Work of Great Sufi Mystic.

Thank You.

Bulleh Shah (talk) 01:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Bulleh Shah: Book translators do not usually become notable just because they translated a notable book or "took good effort"; please take a long look at WP:NPERSON. I suggest you also stop misusing the ® mark should only be used for trademarks or wordmarks registered with relevant government authorities; see also Registered trademark symbol. Human names are normally not registrable. — kashmiri TALK 12:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

You Should acknowledge what i had already written : Faqeer Noor Muhammad Kalachvi ® he's the author of various books notably , IRFAN 1 , IRFAN 2 , MAKHZANUL ASRAR etc (other than Sultan Bahu ra Books translations) further you can find documentary on this Blessed Sufi Personality on youtube he had taken veil from this temporary abode a long ago i.e decades. The mentioned personality's contributions are very notable and influential among people in the sub-continent as well as over the globe.

The question you raise if being a translator holds any significance then you should note they have translated the books of Hazrat Sultan Bahu ra for whom personality wikipedia already have a article page on the site so its very relevant and appropriate to recognise these personality's are notable in regards they have translated the works of SULTAN BAHU ra.

Moreover being a translator you should be able to comprehend they are actually termed the AUTHOR for Urdu/English Books of Sultan Bahu ra.

The things i have written are FACTS and what you state is FANTASY FICTION and you should show respect and HONOUR to personality's that are revered and honoured by wide masses. You are free to state you'r life contributions amounts to be nothing or not notable according to whatever rule of fantasy world but for other's who have actually achieved a landmark of achievements in their life please refrain from making such an statement.

Note: Don't overdose yourself with wikipedia rules (i.e non-sense ) they like to enshrine a certain president's names but don't want to honour the Name of Prophet of Islam Muhammad (peace be upon him) or other groups individuals (refer to my talk page).

"For a wise individual even a word is sufficient"

Full Stop Bulleh Shah (talk) 14:11, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Bulleh Shah: You are clearly going too far with your WP:PERSONAL attacks. Please keep in mind that you might get blocked from editing if you continue with this behaviour. Consider yourself warned. — kashmiri TALK 14:33, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

If you feel that way i can't help but certainly i have only used my quality time to try to develop mutual understanding for a subject with logic and reason.

Bulleh Shah (talk) 14:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Further i am new user here and please note the talk page rules : This is Kashmiri's talk page, where you can send messages and comments to Kashmiri. Be polite, and welcoming to new users Assume good faith Avoid personal attacks For disputes, seek dispute resolution

It seems inappropriate to hand out warnings like this with your own misunderstandings of a given subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bulleh Shah (talkcontribs) 14:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Bulleh Shah: Please carefully read WP:PERSONAL, this is Wikipedia's official policy that you are required to follow if you intend to be active on this site. I am not ready to take any more comments on me personally from you. If you would like to discuss the content, then I see C.Fred (talk · contribs) has already explained you in detail and pointed to relevant policies, especially WP:NPERSON. If you disagree with policies, then your only option is to discuss them with other editors for a possible change, although I would strongy advise against it while you are new to this project. For now, I see no point of further discussion on how a respected person the translator was. — kashmiri TALK 14:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@kashmiri

First i would reiterate there was no personal remarks (as you like to state it as attack?) to you or an another individual however where necessary example has been made to make things more explicit for the greater understanding of the respondent.

I would affirm to my statement in good will the "rule" of wikipedia is biased as C.fred agreed to this ( on my talk page ). The discussion is apparently public and any sane individual can come to this conclusion. So i don't need reference or clarity to whats already very clear and admittedly showing bias towards people of different nationals and background. If If something is allowed for one individual it should be allowed for others and it should not be required to present this as a new case or indulge in opening a new debate or conversation on wikipedia.


Bulleh Shah (talk) 20:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Mein Wikipedia tareekh wucheth di panin rai. bahas mubahasah manz Problematics (talk) 01:24, 30 April 2017 (UTC)