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Syriac manuscript of the Gospel of Barnabas[edit]

"Actually he did publish an article in an Arabic language website. According to him the text is composed of verses of the gospels and sayings found typically in Incantation bowl, but for the most part it contains incoherent sentences made up of mixed Classical Syriac and Neo-Aramaic words. The orthography was so bad that he concluded it was either that the writer had no experience or that it was made so intentionally to confuse the reader. He found nothing to suggest it was the Gospel of Barnabas or even made to resemble it.--Kathovo talk 12:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)"

Unfortunately (but not unexpectedly) the redesign of the Ankawa website means the link to the Assad Sauma article no longer finds Assad Sauma's article. I have trawled back to 2012 (using the English version of the site) and have not found it there. Are you able to give a current link (or even better, a translation). TomHennell (talk) 10:08, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
The article is accessible via this link: http://www.ankawa.com/forum/index.php/topic,563779.msg5507904.html.--Kathovo talk 10:00, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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The article "Kurdish Christians"[edit]

Hi Kathovo,

you seem to have an interest in subjects concerning Assyrians, and I noticed you made some comments in the talk page of the article "Kurdish Christians" (under the name Rafy). The article is unfortunately prone to edit warring whereby a Kurdish identity is conferred upon other people, notably Assyrians. I've done my best to rectify this, although I'd like to notify other editors with an interest in the subject since I'm personally not a regular editor here (I find the constant edit warring rather time consuming and simply irritating, and I just made some edits now because I noticed blatant factual errors and disregard of Wikipedia's core content policies with regards to Original Research and Verifiability). Should you find the article in a state of careless editing, feel free to edit it and perhaps add a comment in the talk page.81.229.176.77 (talk) 19:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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urmia[edit]

Hello brother.I am working in a article in persian wikipedia that named Historical demography of urmia .It is very very complete.I will make it Good article as soon as I can.My "English writting" is awful.Can you make it for English and Arabic wikipedia?شاه بابل (talk) 06:44, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Good work, could you translate the article as good as you could to English? I will then proof-read it.--Kathovo talk 09:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok.I starte it step by step.شاه بابل (talk) 00:05, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

User 81.111.12.105[edit]

Hello I have seen that you already have block this user he never uses sources and he only destroys articles, clearly vandalism! keep an eye on him and look back on his contributions from 2012-2013 he started then with his fake contributions on many different articles --Suryoye85 (talk) 02:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Syriac Orthodox in Syria[edit]

Christians make about 30% of the Gozarto (Hassaka Governorate) in Syria, out of a population of more than 1,5 million people and about 95% of the Christians in Gozarto are members of the Syriac Orthodox Church so that would mean that they are more than 450,000 Syriac Orthodox Christians alone in Gozarto and also big communities in Homs, Aleppo Damaskus... So the number of 800,000 Syriac Orthodox Christians in Syria can be accurate since its also the second biggest Church in Syria. So if you count the members of the Syriac Catholic Church, Assyrian Church of the East, Chaldean Catholic Chruch and ofcourse the Syriac Orthodox Church the numbers of Assyrians could be at 1 million. So this source can be accurate : http://www.jewishjournal.com/live_from_the_arab_spring/article/syrias_assyrian_christians_find_refuge_with_turkish_neighbors

shlome Elvis214 (talk) 17:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

30% in Hasaka? Maybe this was true 70 years ago but they certainly are much less than that now. They probably got their info from Wikipedia so this a typical case of WP:Circular. According to Heleen Murre-van den Berg, an expert on the Syriac Orthodox Church, the total number of Syriac Orthodox Christians in Syria is no more than 170,000.[1] This number is probably much lower now.--Kathovo talk 10:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

70 Years ago in the mid 30s the christians in Hassaka made up 70% of the population out of 100,000 people, according to this source. http://books.google.de/books?id=lKaL3_dfFJAC&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=qamishli+population&source=bl&ots=mljLuiXDUV&sig=eMKnt4HIjOTyKgho5yNGI4obCr4&hl=de&sa=X&ei=BQuCVNzSC4TmOJySgeAF&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=qamishli%20population&f=false Accoring to Syria Needs Analysis Project the Christian in the al Hassaka Governorate make about 20-30% of the population. (February 2014) www.acaps.org/reports/download/al_hasakeh_governorate_profile_february_2014/76/syria And according to the Assyrian Journalist Augin Kurt Hanike which is also from Hassaka, the Assyrians in the Governorate make up about 30% of the population. http://www.aina.org/releases/20130819193827.htm

You underestimate our population there. And the estimates given by Murre-van den Berg are simply wrong, he claims in the link you postet that there are 100,000 Syriac Orthodox living in Europe, in reality the number is much bigger. We have more than 100,000 Syriac Orthodox people only here in Germany, than many in Sweden, Netherlands... so his claims are not reputable. Any many other Assyrian organisations from the Gozarto (Cizire/Jaziree/Hassaka) estimates our numbers in the Gozarto between 350,000 and 450,000. Elvis214 (talk) 16:27, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

These numbers just don't add up; If we take Joseph's claim[2] which is pretty reliable, the total number was 44,000 in 1937, using the annual growth rate of the total population of Syria at 2.0%[3] the final population would not exceed 180,000 after 70 years.[4] Keep in mind that many Syriacs moved to Damascus and Aleppo very early on, many more settled in Europe later, and let's not forget that the natural birth rate of Christians is generally lower than that of Muslims.--Kathovo talk 08:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Arameans in Israel article[edit]

Please, could you take a look at the Arameans in Israel article, because there is an edit war with other users. Thanks in advance.--Suryoyo124 (talk) 11:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Assyrians in Mosul[edit]

Assyrians have never been a significant part of life in Mosul. This article has been tainted with Assyrian propaganda in an attempt to eradicate the Chaldean people and name. This is more than politics, it's personal and we, the Chaldeans, will not stand for this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrencegoriel (talkcontribs) 15:25, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

If you feel hurt, start a blog or bash Assyrians on Facebook. Don't blank referenced sections.--Kathovo talk 16:19, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Excuse me, please read my statement. The claim that Assyrians are part of Mosul culture is not only inaccurate, it is also a part of Assyrian propaganda against the Chaldean people. It's not about being hurt, this is a war on our ethnicity. The work is not cited and if parts of it were, I deleted the parts that were not included after investigation of the citation. Example, the sisters are claimed to be Assyrian but Assyrians are Nestorian and not Catholic. The entire article which was cited was describing people of a Catholic rite, CHALDEANS. Lawrencegoriel (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Assyrian people[edit]

Greetings. I noticed by searching through the talk page for Assyrian people that you had been unsure of whether Ancient Assyrians should be put in the picture template because they are different from the modern Assyrians. I trust that your knowledge on this matter is probably superior than most others, and wanted to get your opinion on if you think Tiglath-Pileser III, Ashurbanipal, and Nabonidus (who weren't on the page at the time) or anyone else for that matter should be removed, and I will take care of removing them and restructuring the collage myself if you do. --Steverci (talk) 22:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'n in the opinion that ancient figures don't belong to the page of modern Assyrian people just as Julius Caesar isn't representative of modern Italians. Good luck.--Kathovo talk 20:23, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Alright, but is that just the three I mentioned or are there other figures such as maybe Abgar V that aren't considered modern Assyrian people? Please specify the people you want to be removed. --Steverci (talk) 01:49, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Well Abgarids are of dubious origin and their biographies are rife with legends, but one thing is certain, they were culturally Syriac, so they could stay as far as I'm concerned. If in doubt you can always create a section in Assyrian people's talk page.--Kathovo talk 10:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hello from an old pal![edit]

Hey Kathovo, it's been a few years and I just wanted to say hi and at the same time, goodbye. I was originally planning on making huge contributions to articles about the ancient middle east, central asia and the indian subcontinent, but I have a lot of college work and since you were one of the friendliest users on here that I came across, I thought that you should be the first to know that after a few more contributions here and there and maintaining the status quo on certain infobox maps and other edits on articles, I will be leaving Wikipedia indefinitely.

I thank you and a lot of others for helping me get on the right track, it took me a long time for me to do so. It wasn't until early 2014 that I started to gain momentum around here and making good contributions to articles such as the Mauryan and Mughal Empire's and even the Holy Roman Empire, but sadly, I am just too busy with college to do any edits on Wikipedia. Aside from that I am truly sorry if I am bothering you or being disruptive in anyway, but I just wanted to give you a heads up on what I've been up to lately! Regards. Kirby (talk) 13:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Ras al-Ayn[edit]

Dear Kathovo,
in 2012, you assessed the article Ras al-Ayn, al-Hasakah Governorate as low-importance regarding WP:WikiProject Assyria. As I considerably expanded the article, I just want to notify you that I'm changing this now to mid-importance, because it has some relevant Syriac and Aramaean history. Please tell me if I'm wrong.
Regards, PanchoS (talk) 09:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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Happy New Year, Kathovo![edit]

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Tur Abdin Map[edit]

Hello i noticed that something was missing on a map of Tur Abdin you made at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tur_Abdin.svg. Dayro Daslibo should have an orange cross indicating the Mor Aho monastery which is located in the village. There is no cross to indicate that a monastery exists there however. Could you fix it by adding an orange or red cross on the site in an updated version of the file? Sources which indicate that a monastery does in fact exist in dayro daslibo- http://www.aina.org/ata/2013101916954.htm , https://insearchofunusualdestinations.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/the-monastery-of-mor-ahothe-holy-crossdayro-daslibo-catalcamdayro-daslibo-mardin-turkey/Cirflow (talk) 08:48, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

New language wiki[edit]

I have a new idea that perhaps you should pitch to Wikiproject Assyria. An Aramaic Wiki, or a Wiki that uses some form of Assyrian language whether it be Syriac, Turoyo, Neo Aramaic, etc. I cannot help write sadly, as I cannot speak or understand any form of the Assyrian languages despite my interest in Assyria, but I would love for this to happen as I feel it would be something that could be interesting. We could start the Wiki by translating Assyrian related pages, and then move on to translate all types of articles so that it can be a legitimate wiki. Cirflow (talk) 06:48, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Acts of Mar Mari listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Dear Kathovo, I award you The Christianity Barnstar for all your hard work in WikiProject Christianity related articles. Keep up the good work! Your efforts are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 23:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)