User talk:Keeper76/Archive 18

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User page deletions

You should not delete the user pages of banned users who have been sockpuppeting, specifically User:LOTRrules. Did you not see the sockpuppet notice? See Wikipedia:User_page#How_do_I_delete_my_user_pages.3F.--Otterathome (talk) 17:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Did not see it, no. Be right back...

Fixed it. Keeper | 76 18:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
You should not have deleted any of the pages, as there is a lot of abuse coming from that particular user, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LOTRrules/Archive. So I request you restore everything you deleted.--Otterathome (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
A user can request stuff deleted in his/her own userspace. If (and it's a huge IF), something is ever needed for any particular reason, any admin will be able to restore, or at the very least, view, anything deleted. Not worth restoring any of it. Moving along. Keeper | 76 03:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
If you read Wikipedia:User_page#How_do_I_delete_my_user_pages.3F, "Where there is no significant abuse and no administrative need to retain the personal information, you can request that your own user page and user subpages be deleted.". In this case, there has been significant abuse. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LOTRrules/Archive. If you still disagree, I will start a deletion review.--Otterathome (talk) 16:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh good lord. They were subpages. I restored his userpage, because you were correct about the notice needing to stay there. I denied his request to delete his talkpage, per the guideline you cite. I denied his request to delete his talk archives on the same grounds. I only deleted his user subpages. They have nothing to do with any sockpuppet case. Move along please, and stop the high and might tone in your posts. It's nauseating. Keeper | 76 16:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
And to add a quote from the guideline you cite: If a user page was deleted because a contributor left, it may be restored by an administrator if the contributor returns, particularly if the history contains evidence of policy violations. He is retired and gone. Leave it be. Keeper | 76 16:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
He didn't retire, he was blocked for being incivil then replacing peoples user pages with ==White Trash== <big><big><big><big>Fuck off you white piece of trash. Fucking wiggers. Go and fuck a Jew, Jew raper.</big></big></big></big>. And still has been doing these antics, e.g. Blow me bitch I'll rape your mom. I'll tear her cunt apart. And then I'll stick a red hot poker up her ass AND yours. Hahaha you'll never ban me. Its said to see you try so hard to get me banned. You must really hate me. I appreciate it. You'll never find me. And I'll just keep on editing. Take that and shove it up your hole!.--Otterathome (talk) 16:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not disputing that he's been blocked. I'm not saying he should be unblocked. I don't care. I deleted his user subpages while clearing out CSD. If he requests an unblock (he hasn't to date), admins will take due diligence to be sure to look at any deleted edits and the sock history/block reason prior to unblocking. I didn't block him, I'm not unblocking him, and I'm not undeleting his user subpages full of useless templates that he created for himself and copies of existing articles. They are COMPLETELY unrelated to his block/sock. Keeper | 76 17:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm also a bit perturbed, by the way, about your general crusade in this manner. Why is it that you are allowed, otterathome, to go around removing LOTR from lists, for example the inactive section of WP:CRIME, but when LOTR wants himself, literally, removed from Wikipedia, you want everything restored? Do you not see the irony. You need to back off, stop kicking the horse. Keeper | 76 17:21, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Blocked abusive sockpuppeters user pages are kept for tracking purposes, which is why they are not deleted. If you don't understand this, I guess I will have to make a new section at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 May 5.--Otterathome (talk) 17:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Good lord. Wonkery at its finest. You need to go back to, oh I dunno, writing an encyclopedia. Stop spouting "policy" at me. You are quoting a general guideline, not a policy. I didn't delete his talk archives or talkpage, which are used for tracking purposes. I deleted his SUBPAGES ONLY. Have fun at DRV, what a complete waste of time this has bene trying to talk sense to you. Keeper | 76 17:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Heavens, Keeper, that response makes it seem like you might actually be a human being. From the way some people talk to admins sometimes, it's easy to forget that that's the case... Fritzpoll (talk) 17:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
What was I just saying about starting to miss this place?.....Keeper | 76 17:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of User:LOTRrules. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Otterathome (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

{{subst:trout}} –xeno talk 21:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Just to let you know Keeper that I got banned from Wikipedia because of my temper (its something I regret). This will be my last message to wikipedia so I'll make it brief. User:Otterathome has been stalking me over the past few months - thats why I wrote all those sweary messages. He has been vandalising my user pages under a different name (only a handful of users know that I'm Muslim, and few knew users know how to move userpages to "sandnigger"). So as a last request can you please open up a Sockpuppet case for User:Otterathome, he has proved disruptive and caused to say all those things (my brother did half the others - my accounts compromised). He has been blocked before. I think he hates me to be honest but I don't care I just want to edit. Each time I do this he stalks me and gets me caught under a different username. Don't believe his lies. Am I also right to say that new users don't know how to edit templates? He has been doing this many times over. Well I have a sneaky suspicion it was him under the username of user:Thank The Lordy. Even thought Thank The Lordy has been here in 2006 his edits number less than 20... Me and Otterathome have a history of conflict. I just want you to check it out. This guy is too zelous in his policy in attacking me personally. I mean just look at his contribs in the last couple of days This guy also wants to be a "potential admin" in the future...and just to let you know further under my new accounts I haven't been once disruptive (check the contribs for each of my usernames here). LOTRrules2 (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the post. Of course, I've blocked your new account indefinitely under "block evasion", a technicality. I'll be looking into this, but it may take me several days (I'm about to disappear into the real world again). If any TPSers would like to look into these allegations, there are definitely some serious issues of hate-inspired stalking going on that if prove true, would spell a good deal of banhammering towards Otterathome, who has not left a very pleasant impression on me in his brief visits to my talk page. I'll post on your LOTRrules talkpage, be watching that one. You should be able to edit that one as well, even while blocked. It's not protected as far as I know. Keeper | 76 23:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Obviously I can't do any investigation, but I'd just like to offer a word of advice to LOTRules, and it's this: be sure to behave at least no worse than your enemies, and ideally a lot better than them. "Sweary messages" really don't cut it, something you as a Muslim already know, I'm quite certain. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Universally sound advice, regardless of religion (or lack of). Keeper | 76 23:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Oy. Did they need to be deleted? Probably not. Is there any problem with deleting them? Nope. Would probably have done the same. Delrev seems like process wonkery StarM 23:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Any elaborations? Is the investigation going ahead then? I've been blocked now, unjustly. Can I have permission to create an account and edit from there? (talk) 21:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
You do realize I can't just give you "permission" to create an account and edit, right? You were blocked indefinitely for some rather elaborate, trollish, and offensive behavior over an extended timeframe, with multiple accounts. Asking for an unblock is one thing - do that on your talkpage as I recommended earlier. Requesting unblock on the premise that "someone was really bad to me first" isn't likely going to garner much sympathy. I don't know what else to tell you. Take a few weeks break (trust me from personal experience - it is VERY useful to step away in order to gain perspective). Stay completely off of Wikipedia. Don't associate anymore with this particular editor, or your previous editing. Start slowly, stay quiet, go back to what you liked about the place. And don't name your new account LOTRrules 4. Read WP:RTV, get a fresh start. But not right away. You'll be too tempted to try to pick up this battle. However, if you insist on fighting this battle, do it within the parameters that are there for you. User your talkpage that you are allowed to edit to draw attention to your plight - don't continue to sock. It only makes your situation worse everytime you show up to plead. In other words, if you are in a hole, put down the shovel. You cannot get out of a hole with a shovel. Best of luck to you - Keeper | 76 02:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I realize this user was being very abusive in his language. It was mostly due to the user: Otterathome (talk) being abusive as well.
He kept deleting his edits and just being an all-around bully. I looked on his contributions list and he basically looks around for images that aren't to his liking and deletes them as well as quotes or representations or other websites under the guise of 'GFDL uncompatability'. I don't know Otterathome personally, but I know LOTRules to a good extent and he lost his temper---plain and simple. As bad as that is (and its really bad), I can say he doesn't go looking around 'cleaning up' articles to his discretion.
If there is any hope of clearing this whole thing up I'll give some examples. InternetHero (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Keeper, just to let you know user:otterathome is deleting discussions I participated in on wikipedia talk pages and he's tagged all of my userpages. I think this does constitute as vandalism. He's removing me from project lists. (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi Keeper

As you pointed out, on this account i have very few posts, but on my old one i had a considerably larger amount. I changed it due to the fact i had a username that seemed funny at the time, but made me blush each time i posted on a talk page... i also do the vast majority of my edits anonymously so...yeah.

Thanks for the comment.

C7rky C7rky (talk) 21:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

It's totally fine that you changed usernames, and that you don't have to divulge what your old username is. However, until this username that you currently have racks up more edits, there is no evidence of positive work to go on. Keeper | 76 22:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
On the other hand, it's rollback. /me coughs a bit "Who cares?" The most you can do is create a (revertable) mess, and that's pretty trivial to do with regular editing anyway. You seem like a nice enough guy (and I think we can assume good faith that you're not lying about your previous editing experience). I support +rollback for you, FWIW. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
And while I'm intruding here... good to see you active again, Keeper. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree about rollback (not so sure about the "active" part though, :-) . I'm not talking about months of experience, I'm talking about some experience. A few days, maybe a week, using "undo" like us old-timers. His first edit (essentially) is to request rollback. Raises proverbial flags. Keeper | 76 23:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. Though it's much more fun to give it to random users and see what happens than it is to give it to someone with hundreds of edits. ;-) To C7rky: rollback is gross anyway; it clutters your watchlist and history pages and it's a fantastic way to look like an idiot when you accidentally click a rollback link of a legitimate edit on accident. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Trust me, I know. Rollback is one of the most overrated letdowns on Wikipedia. Right behind RFA. Keeper | 76 23:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
On a side note, that wikibreak notice seems oddly familiar. –Juliancolton | Talk 04:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Heh, yeah. I commented as such on his/her talkpage with similar attitude....and then I changed my template...Keeper | 76 04:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

save the drama for yo' mama

but what if mama is drama? *enough*, either sign him or move on. PS, to keep with sealsaon relativity, I'll be at the 5.16 game v. Twinkies StarM 03:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Gawd. I can NOT believe you linked me to a FARV article. I'm so tired of FARV drama. I've spent so many years despising him, it will be my last straw with the vikes if they sign him. I may put an "adopt me" tag on some wikiproject football page to get a new team. I will not cheer for FARV. Will. Not. What the H is "sealsaon" ?? Keeper | 76 03:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
It's "noasleas" spelt backwards. As opposed to backward spelt. Not saying that Spalt is a backward town thought the concrete on our driveway is spalling after a winter when it had lots of salt put on it cause of snowdrifts from saltating snow and ice. HTH. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah. So then it's clear.. Keeper | 76 04:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I had to go find out hth that was a blue link. Season. I'm not Typo Queen for nothing -- a nick I got in IRC back in the mid 90s and never quite shed. Why I don't get the Qb drama is he's not really much of an upgrade for you - is he? I recognise he's a record-holding soon-to-be HoF QB, but most of said records are longevity. I don't mind him - we beat him when it matters, but enough already. NYC's drama needs to be over too StarM 01:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Speedy decline at Colef

I am slightly confused. It seemed to meet G11, as the article says " we offer", is not cited to any reliable third party source that shows that it is notable. It makes no sense in several places, or is poorly translated psuedo-academese. Can I go and just yank out all the drivel and unsourced material and still be on the side of angels( basically just blank the page)? --Flaquito (talk) 05:43, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

All an article needs to do to avoid being speedy deleted is to assert some level of notability (sourced or not). Absolutely, clean it up, it certainly is in a state of disrepair. After trying to find sources, if you feel that it just doesn't have a place here (I might even agree with you on that), then I would recommend a WP:AFD. Cheers, Keeper | 76 13:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Ahh. I had never nominated anything before. Thanks for clearing it up for me. It is probably notable on some level, but its notablity is grossly exagerated by the institution itself.---Flaquito (talk) 20:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
No worries from my end. It may very likely end up deleted. If you've never experienced WP:AFD, and you feel the article's subject not worthy (based on your own due diligence and researching for sources to verify and substantiate the article's noteworthiness), I recommend you bring it there. Many, many articles that pass through WP:CSD on grounds of "maybe, maybe not" end up at afd, and end up deleted as they should be. Cheers, and thanks for your posts, Keeper | 76 05:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Otterathome's stalkish behaviour

By listening and responding to blocked users you are just making yourself look silly.--Otterathome (talk) 10:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

You are a legalistic policy wonk. I will not be wasting my time with you, I have a life first and foremost, and you are simply intolerable. I would rather speak with a blocked user than you. LOTR is attempting to apologize on his talk page. You've done nothing to help the situation, you've been exceedingly dense and downright grating, and now are kicking dead horses. Stop going around deleting his 3 year old talkpage posts. WTF is the point? You are on a crusade that is borderline stalking. You have absolutely no place doing that, and if you continue, I will block your account for disruption. Consider this your only warning. I will not be entertaining any more of your legalistic drivel. Keeper | 76 13:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Keeper, here's those "diffs" he wanted (he removed your message from his talk page by stating he wanted diffs otherwise he was "not interested" [1]). It is clear, by the dates on the permanent links, that he has been doing this many times. He has had a previous warning from another user [2] but chose to ignore it.

Evidence of stalkish behaviour

User page tagging: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]

Removing other users comments/threats/signatures from wikiprojects/stalking type edits: [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38]

Obviously there is much more. This user has been blocked from editing wikipedia in the past owing to edit warring(see here [39]). He has attempted to cover up his stalking behaviour by creating two sub pages with LOTRrules IP addresses - and they are ALL in connection with User:LOTRrules. See here: [40][41] (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Manipulation of policy

Otterathome has been consistantly spouting policy when other admins you know have warned him of this. He appears to be being disruptive again at this discussion. If this does not show how annoying and unproductive user:otterathome is then I don't know what will do. He appears to have deleted your message with the attempt to ignore the problem as highlighted above (see here [42]) (talk) 15:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppets

A possible sockpuppet of User:Otterathome would probably be user:Thank The Lordy - he has been known to rename user:LOTRrules sub pages to "archives of a sandnigger" - only surfaced in 2008 when LOTRrules and Otterathome were locking horns. See above links or simply go to LOTRrules subpages and look at the history. (talk) 15:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

What the hell is going on here?

Someone appears to have mistaken the talk page of a semi-retired Wikipedia editor for a particularly dull thread on the Wikipedia Review. Might I suggest that all you people take it somewhere else? – iridescent 19:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. I'm done with this. Otterathome, your corner is over there. You've been sufficiently warned (and not just by me) about what you are incorrectly doing. You are out of bounds, and close to a block for stalking and disruption of the project. LOTR is no closer to an unblock either for continuing to show up as an IP outside the bounds of his indef block. LOTR, use your talkpage to contest/request the block be unblocked. Not mine? Keeper | 76 20:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
But I can't. No one will respond to my queries for an unblock. This injustice has gone on too long. Plus my talk page is probably going to get fully protected by user:Deskana (who seems to offer no explanation as to why she protected it in the first place.). (talk) 20:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
I want to come back and start editing again. There has been no activity on my page for days now. Especially the ones who've refused to unblock me. (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Stop posting as an IP, that's step one. It doesn't do anything for you, with me - or with anyone else. It is technically block evasion. Stop. The "injustice" that you are going on about is irrelevent. Turn other cheek, etc. You lashed out. You stooped to the level of those that you felt were offending you. You are rightfully blocked, I've checked your editing. Yes, you can be a good editor, I've seen that too. But your anger got the best of you. Another editor got the best of you. You need a break, you need to walk away from wikipedia completely, for at least a couple of weeks, to gain perspective. Trust me on this, please? I walked away from wikpedia essentially for 6 months to learn what it is, and what it isn't. It is not life, it is not much of anything really other than a fun experiment - a noble cause - and a lot of headache for the "editors in the trenches". Take a break. Start anew. Find new interests, drop the "injustice" pleas (it's getting you nowhere). The editor that pushed you to the extreme level of incivil posting has been thoroughly warned (by me and others) about his contentious editing. He won't continue lest he be blocked himself. Start fresh. Disappear, stop appealing as an IP, and move on. If someone is crusading against you, the easiest (and least successful) response is to crusade back. Be the bigger person? Keeper | 76 04:46, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Remember Me?

Hey there... I know it's been more than ages, but I wanted to stop by to say thanks for being the most level-headed, normal, sane and best person on Wikipedia. I'm not editing all that much any more (I suspect the same thing that happened to you, judging by your talk page, has happened to me) - but it's nice to come back now and then, have a read, and see how everybody's doing. Cheers, Alex Muller 18:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Muller! Of course I remember you. I've been quiet here for the better part of a year (has it been that long? Wow, last major "editing" was Sept 08....sheesh). Glad to see you about. Sorry if those admin buttons are what did you in. They (in part) burned me on the place, but I do miss the place - my RL sitch changed quite a bit, I just simply don't have the time to waste edit anymore. Be well, hope things going swimmingly for you. Keeper | 76 20:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
I can't believe it was last February that I went through all that mess for a couple of buttons - I do appreciate you taking the time to do it though, it was a really great thing for me. I had a mix of burnout, boredom and real life changing (apparently university starting really will mess around your free time), but I'm tempted to get back into things for a bit now. If only to try and stamp out some of the stupid bureaucracy that seems to run this place. Or am I just wasting my time...? :p - Alex Muller 23:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
If your plan is to "stamp out bureaucracy", you may as well spend your time pounding your head against a brick wall in order to re-color the mortar. If you think you may enjoy the place as the hobby and "meaningful entertainment" it is supposed to be, then welcome back! If it interferes with life, then leave with best wishes from me. Thanks for checking in - I was wondering where you'd disappeared to :_) Keeper | 76 04:49, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Haha - I'll see how it goes, taking it slowly... if I arrive here one day and post six paragraphs worth of ranting with the CAPS lock on (promising never to come back), you'll know what's happened. Hopefully, this place is heading in the right direction by itself. Anywho, thanks for still being around :-) — Alex Muller 08:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Am I banned from Twins' games?

I wasn't at Friday, but I was at yesterday and today. Main OF yesterday with Tex's HR a bit to my right and Field LF corner - A-Rod's today a bit to my left. Got to admit, three fabulous games, well played baseball. StarM 01:14, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

or maybe from their POV, they should stay away from the Bronx. The past three victories have come in thrilling fashion against the tough-luck Twins, who dropped to 3-22 in the Bronx since the start of the 2002 season. from here StarM 02:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey Gardi, a little late? That's all I'll say StarM 23:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi, just to let you know I am going to go off wikipedia very soon and enjoy a very long wikibreak. However User:Otterathome has been reverting my old edits again - right after you warned him. Its just a final thought as he ignored your warning the first time and is now ignoring it again. Thanks for being a good admin and listening to me. I look forward to working and seeing you in the future, where I'll be sure to behave better and continue editing. That is if you haven't left wikipedia by then. (talk) 22:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Something against the White Sox huh?

Seems that way! Don't click if you haven't seen today's game StarM 21:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


My RfA

Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record.
I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


Well, back to the office it is...

I lol'ed. Truly. Thanks. LessHeard vanU (talk) 17:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

De nada. Welcome to the admin corp I think you should now have 2 delete buttons on top o' the browser :-) Keeper | 76 17:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Where you been?

Where you been? Long time no talk. JoJoTalk 21:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm over here.  :-) Keeper | 76 17:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

"Cross border rivals"?

WTF Joe Buck? Cross border means what? Is that different to interstate? I hate ESPN baseball but theree's nothing else on. WOW at Gardenhire in the 7th re: Mauer. While I don't agree that "all of baseball" would be upset if Mauer was hurt, he's a great guy. Don't think I've ever seen him so passionate... StarM 02:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Cross border makes no sense. Did he maybe mean cross dressing? Even golf would be more interesting then, like if Tiger Woods stepped onto the green in a cute little princess dress. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah aren't most sports games "cross border"? Yet he was making cross border rivalry to be something amazing and out of this world. Then again I hate Interleague play and to some extent, the wild card. I think we need two more AL teams and a four division league ala football. StarM 05:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I think what he was trying to say is that it's a regional rivalry because of the proximity of the teams. Green Bay-Minnesota in the NFL, although they're in the same division. Wisconsin and Minnesota are neighboring states. I was watching Cavaliers-Magic, but Joe Mauer has been absolutely ridiculous since coming back from his injury. Enigmamsg 05:50, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Agreed re: Mauer, and Morneau is crazy to watch all the time. Both great athletes who I was glad to see leave New York without iflicting more damage. So basically Yankees/Phillies would have been "Cross border rivals" too? I guess I think international when I hear cross border, but your explanation makes sense. Hope your ootball team won StarM

I ♥ Mauer and Morneau. With Crede, Cuddyer, and Kubel, we are suddenly a power team instead of a piranha team. Go figure. Lots of fun to watch. It's pretty much expected that Mauer and Morneau will be on base 3 out of 4 at bats. If the pitching holds up (it is vastly improving every week, case in point last night), we are going to win the world series, Mauer will be both the AL batting champ and AL MVP, and will be the first to hit over .400 since Ted. Calling it right now. Dream season, the pieces are coming together nicely. We just destroyed, offensively and defensively, one of the best NL teams. Keeper | 76 17:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

So you saw last night so I can quit beign vague -- wtf was that call in the 7th? ESPN was as usual vague. Did the ump just take Mauer's word that he'd been hurt? Morneau certainly made them pay but really? 3r or grand slam? No difference in the end. I love watching Prince Fielder play too, he's always a challenge to get out. Last night was a good game and what I like is if either M boys have a bad day, the others pick them up. How's Kubel's knee? Hope he's OK. The pic they had of him at the stadium was a bit creepy - he looked like a serial killer. I'm certainly rooting for you today :p StarM 18:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
A rare game that I got to watch live. To recap the ridiculous: Mauer started walking to first, the ump called him back and said it was not a HBP, but a foul tip. Mauer (Mr. Joe Cool, that is) actually looked upset. Gardy came out, raising holy hell and spitting tacks, the ump reversed the call. Brew-manager tried to raise a fit, but he was no match for gardy's tirade. Mauer to first, Morneau up: first pitch, upper deck. Game over. Simply beautiful. I cannot think of another time that a manager has been able to change an ump's mind. I think it surprised even gardy. And to concur, I despise the ESPN commentary. Blubbering fools that don't have the right flavor - unlike our brilliantly talented pitcher/pitchman. One of the best in the biz at calling the game - does the Fox Sports (north) broadcasts. Keeper | 76 18:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Gotcha, missed the ump actually reversing the call. Just Gardy yelling and miraculously not getting tossed, and then Mauer to 1st. Haven't heard that his hand is injured, which is good. Mauer's one of the athletes who's just a good ball player - remember reading when he was hurt this winter, glad he's healthy enough to play ball. With my friends frequenting the Rochester Redwings games, they've seen lots of your boys play -- except from someone, name now forgotten, who we then realised was acquired from Tampa or somewhere. Only question with Morneau's ball was how far back. He makes it look easy - I think he hit three last weekend? Amazing. Only way I like to face either is with no one on. Yankees making Texas a bit interesting. Didn't know Blyleven was a broadcaster. Coney is learning to do a good job, well tolerable, he's better than he was in years past. Enjoy your day - hope you're off StarM 18:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Blyleven is a brilliant broadcaster, almost as good as he is a pitcher - if you are ever able to watch a Twins game from Twins territory, you'll understand. Working today, just checking in. Wish I had the day off...recording the twins game that is happening, er, right now, so shush on that. You should be cheering for my boys, they're playing the bosox 4 games this week...why is "rochester redwings" a redlink? Keeper | 76 19:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, nevermind. I'll make a new, apparently plausible, redirect...Keeper | 76 19:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Good call on re-direct, I wasn't sure how to spell it and didn't preview. Figured you'd know what I meant :) Only time I've been to your fair state was, I think, a bit ttoo early for baseball. It was early April en route to Calgary but I think that season started late. I'd love to see a game at the pillowdome, but not going to get there this year. I am rooting for you today - and no idea on the score. My boys winning 6-0, yes Winning with Phil Hughes on the mount. Am sure Texas will score soon enough. Bummer that you're not off today 0 I thought we had odd holidays! StarM 19:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Think I may have just heard byleven. MLBN's "look ins" has the Twins' coverage from Fox Sports North StarM 21:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Just finished watching. Stoopid red sox. We suck apparently against AL East. Swept by the subpar Yanks, clobbered by Toronto, even the orioles seem to have our number early. Tis only may keeper. This is going to be a good year for the twins...Keeper | 76 02:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey we're not subpar, we're just finally playing up to our ability. Crazy 11-1 today and L 2-3 yesterday. No rhyme or reason. You guys made it interesting and I was so hoping for you to sock it to PapelBUM again because him on Saturday was great to watch. Nice way for Mauer to celebrate his "day off". Toronto in free fall now. Just watched the ChiSox/LAA football game 17-3. StarM 04:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

more espn foolery

no spoilers for your boys this weekend. Watching Dodgers-Cubs and they're talking about Alfonso Soriano and comparing his HR power to Joe Moo-er. As in cow. Now, did they not just call Minne-Brewer lat week? Did they not get their practice? While I'm not sure how I say it is right, it's how I've heard him addressed in interviews and he never seem to correct it so it's a good guess that it's close. Wish I knew IPA because I don't know how to write how I say Mau-kinda like how-er. StarM 01:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Mauer rhymes with bower, as in someone who, with power, bows down from their tower to pick up a flower. I was watching DOD/CUB, but at 8-0 in the 6th inning, and with the horrible game calling, I moved on as well. Keeper | 76 02:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Duh and what did I say two words before approimating his name? Power works too. Yeah, they weren't even close. There was just nothing on and I'd already read one book so I kept it on as background noise. I've enjoyed three days in first place, loving the view, though I know it won't last. StarM 12:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
The yanks finally seem to be starting to realize that it is defense and pitching that win ballgames consistently, not just hitting the ball really really hard. Careful, keeper- that almost sounds like a compliment to the yanks on the 18 errorless game streak....Keeper | 76 03:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
They're playing like they're finally capable of, which I love. However I just wait for the other shoe to drop because I know it's not sustainable. Then again 1998 New York Yankees season wasn't that long ago, not that I expect a repeat. What's with all the balks this season? Never seen so many. BTW, see this? Nice article, I thought. StarM 23:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Sigh, another one bites the dust...

User talk:Dr. Blofeld - know he had hi issues with some, but I really loved his contributions. StarM 00:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Now back with us. ☆M, do try to keep up! – iridescent 00:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
oh jeebus christmas. I'm tempted to trout him with that essay (was it yours? can't remember) how "retiring" is a fleeting thing. Glad he's back though StarM 02:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
If anyone really wants to poison the well on their retirement to ensure they won't be coming back, this is pretty much the way to go. – iridescent 11:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh wow, that's um, intense. I have a feeling he'll be back. Was he blocked last year as well or was that another "I'm gone" to-do and then he was back? I swear I can't keep my head on with these to-dos. Is Wikipedia really worth the drama? This is why I don't and will never watch An/I. I can scan when I'm bored. StarM 14:29, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
*cough* User:NoSeptember/Leaving *cough* EVula // talk // // 15:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy request

Can someone speedy this? The speedy tag got removed as the result of a misunderstanding. Thanks, Enigmamsg 00:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Done as G1 (author actually blanked it after the tagging mishaps). Keeper | 76 01:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Nice to see you take out the tools again Keep, no matter how rusty. Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz! 01:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Do you mean me rusty, or the tools? Hey wait, was that a personal attack????. I oughtta hit you with my cane, you snot-nosed little these days - no respect!  ;-)Keeper | 76 01:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Both. Sigh, I hope I don't get back into editing Gears of War is lecturing me about editing the mainspace...*rolls eyes* Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz! 01:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying my best to avoid it too. :-) And Gears of War, didn't I block him once? Or threaten to? Why does that name sound so familiar, but yet so repressed deep into the darkness of my memory bank? Keeper | 76 01:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Founding member of the Kiddy Kabal. ;) The trophy-hunter? Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz! 11:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

technologos page

i counterargue 'the notabilty, importance cause, etc' the concept of technologos page i've initiated & you unwarrantly in my view rejected/deleted in accordance with wiki set up rules which i find controversial in my case of the original concept of web language design. cyberlogos Cyberlogos (talk) 22:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Au contraire, there's actually more for Keeper to delete. This, for example. Enigmamsg 23:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
But wait, there's more. Enigmamsg 04:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Aren't you an admin yet, E-man? As for cyberlogos, I don't even understand have of the words in your post. If you want userfied copies of these (now deleted) pages, let me know. Keeper | 76 01:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
A certain admin was supposed to hand over his tools but I never received the package. Hmph. I have to beg like a commoner. Imagine that! ;) Enigmamsg 06:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


disagree and object to unwarranted deletion of 'technologos' while editing by rules in process Cyberlogos (talk) 22:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

....not sure what "editing by rules in process" means, but please read this, cyberlogos. Keeper | 76 15:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Wei Song School of Music

Thank you for providing a well-thought-out rationale when you closed this AfD. Could you undelete Lee Wei Song School of Music and redirect it to Lee Wei Song, so I can merge the content from the school to the school's founder? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 15:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing, Cunard. Seems to be a reasonable request. Working on it right now, I'll ping your talkpage...Keeper | 76 03:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stoked (soundtrack)

Wasn't this more of a delete/redirect consensus than a merge? I can't see anywhere in the AfD an argument for merging the article, so I've redirected the article in question. Haipa Doragon (talkcontributions) 23:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Redirect is fine. I was going to copy/paste the song list into the parent article, but for author attribution reasons, decided a merge (so that the editor that actually made the effort to put the soundtrack on wikipedia retains the credit for it). Keeper | 76 03:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Johan Saint-who?

strange things indeed. I was there Friday night for that holy shit moment. Dear Muts fans, stop whining about steroids, it was a pop fly. This however totally shocked me. I didn't think anyone could do that to Santana. StarM 00:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

just saw that on directv 213. He never melted like that under the 'dome. Twins took 2 of 3 at Wrigley, all in all, a good weekend. Keeper | 76 01:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone said it's his worst ever start. YES Network announcers had conceded the series to the Mets. *Sigh*. Watching the game on ESPN? StarM 01:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Is that cards/indians? I can't think of two less interesting teams to watch, so no. Ok, so maybe d-bags (I mean d-backs) and padres would be a little teensy bit less interesting...Keeper | 76 01:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Normally I'd agree-but there was nothing on. Cliff Lee had a no-no going into the 8th. Yadier Molina (sp?) broke it up. ESPN has had some _odd_ choices for Sunday night games, this among them. Don't hit me but I'd also count your Twinkies v. Brewers in that one. Why this weekend not Sox/Phills or even Yankees/Mets. StarM 02:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm so very tired of the bosox/yanks domination on nationally televised venues. Although, if those two teams (count Dodgers, Cubs, and Phils in that group too) get the ESPN commentators more often than I have to suffer through them, I'll stay with my local market programming. Didnt now C-Lee was going that well, shut it off in the 2nd inning at 2-0 Indians. Keeper | 76 02:19, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I think like anyone else, they go for the ratings draw and because all of those teams have fairly nationwide reach, and therefore watch. There's just nothing on Sunday nights here (House reruns don't cut it for me) so I end up putting it on as background noise while I read and/or surf the web. The only games I pay full attn to are Yankees. Enjoy what's left of your weekend StarM 03:26, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I did just that. Keeper | 76 02:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Wow, never heard of that before. Is it fun? StarM 00:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
It's crazy fun. Lots of the post-high school "I'm too cool for college but I'm going to be rich anyway because I'm so cute and people will be handing me money because I have quick wits and I'm also a hacky-sack expert" crowd enjoy it. I do too. Never could hack though, even before age and gravity won the brief battle I attempted a couple of decades ago...Keeper | 76 03:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and anyone that says inter-league play sucks isn't a twins fan. We rock interleague. Like really rock it. Watch out NL if we ever actually make the Series....Keeper | 76 03:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

(out) - the key word there being "if". ;) —Ed (TalkContribs) 03:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh. two points for ed. As a fan, of course I mean when. :-). I predicted a while ago (mid May I think) on this very page, tucked away safely in the annals, that Mauer would finish the season batting .400. Currently at .424. Just saying. Keeper | 76 03:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

on a 400 note

how many ABS do batters get over a season? ~500? Then I predict 400 broken bats for Damon. Sosa news saddens me but doesn't really surprise me. There are a small handful of players who it would truly surprise me. Jeter is one, Mauer is another, any of the Japanese players... What a mess. Twinkies doing well in NL play? We're not doing too bad. 1-2 v. Phils but all three could have gone either way. Am expecting to lose tonight vs. Nats because Wang is pitching and he's awful. But I'm OK w 2-3 from Muts, 2-3 from Nats... StarM 23:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Twinks are 8-2. Over the last few years, they are consistently around 8 of 10 W-L, regardless of whether on the road or at home. Not too shabby. Actually, I think I remember the espn stat-gurus saying that the Twinks had the best IL record over the last 1/2 decade. Don't quote me on that though [citation needed]. Keeper | 76 23:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


I know you've always preached that it's overrated, but I think it's actually vastly underrated. For example, I'm having great fun blocking everyone who opposed my RfA. Oops, did I say that out loud? Enigmamsg 05:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh. Congrats again. Go crazy e-man. Keeper | 76 23:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Odd, in a way.

Our activity (sort of) picked up again at around the same time. Although admittedly you've spent your time being just a bit more productive[43][44]. :-) --Koji 00:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

You calling me productive Leon???? Pickin a fight are we? Why I oughtta.....Actually, I was never fully "gone", just went to the IP channel to see what else was on for awhile.  :-) Keeper | 76 00:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

International Relief Missions page

Hello, I was informed that the International Relief Missons page was speedily deleted this evening. I understand the criteria set out. However, when I made the page I used another Wikipedia page as a template so I would not violate any criteria. I used the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association page. Our organization is not a club, rather a religious organization like BGEA. The information on the page is no different then what is on the BGEA page,only we go about the activity a different way. I used quite a bit of their language on the page as well. There should not be any copyright infringement, as our organization owns all copyrighted material. I actually don't think theres any copywrited material in the information. Anyway I modeled the page after one that is apparently ok on Wikipedia. I would like to request that the page be restored. I hope I sign this correctly, this is the first time I've used Wikipedia. Eligrace (talk) 05:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I've replied on your talkpage. Keeper | 76 06:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Please Restore the Maritza Davila Page

I'm a voter in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and I just got a letter from Vito Lopez the New York State Assembly Member and he endorsed Maritza Davila. So I go to google her to find out a bit more and it seems that you deleted the page. Can you please restore this page so I can get more info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

a candidate for a local office generally does not meet our inclusion guidelines. There are many other ways, other than a Wikipedia page, where you can do your "voter research". Regards, Keeper | 76 01:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Or try this. Tan | 39 02:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Brilliant advise Tan. Always a bastion for fairness. (good to see you still have me watchlisted too :-) Keeper | 76 02:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
That page could use some animation... Like showing the actual coin flip... I was left wanting. –xenotalk 17:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter (June 2009)

  • Newsletter delivery by xenobot 17:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you get SI?

If yes, you'll love this week's cover. If not look here and if they don't load the article, you should get thee to a newsstand :) StarM 23:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It's on my list of things to buy tomorrow; not a subscriber. But hell, he's a good looking ball player, ain't he? Keeper | 76 05:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, nevermind, I'll save the 5 bucks. Just read the article, nicely written. Remember, everyone. I called it in mid-May. He's gonna do it. My bet: .407, one one-thousandth better than Williams. Not sacrilege, mind you. Reality. Save the diff. Keeper | 76 05:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't bother me one iota, Red Sox need to come out of record books :) I got the subscription for free, otherwise I wouldn't have it either. Don't mind it now that I do though. StarM 01:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I have my one year subscription free from Delta airline miles. Those are just about finished, though. Enigmamsg 04:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I do. First the Bryce Harper cover and now the Mauer cover. Hooray for young catching prodigies. Enigmamsg 01:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Is Bryce Harper the 16 yo "prodigy"? So worry when they label kids -the pressure. But then some, like Morneau, thrive. StarM 01:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. He's gotten more coverage than any catching prospect I've ever heard about. He's also going to junior college so he can get his GED earlier and be draft-eligible. This way he'll be drafted in 2010 instead of 2011. He's a much better prospect than Mauer was at the same age. We'll see if he pans out. His contract demands are going to be through the roof, like Strasburg's. Enigmamsg 01:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
the $$ that some of these kids - all sports - get is a little obscene. I don't blame them, so much as the owners who are willing to pay. Hope the kid does well for his own sake w all the pressure. StarM 02:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Double switch

E-man (or other baseball fans here), you an AL fan or NL? If you're an NL fan or just know it better, can you explain the double switch in the middle of an inning to me? In b9, Yankees just pulled David Robertson for Mo, which makes total sense, but Melky for Nick Swisher too? I'm confuddled. Thanks StarM 02:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The double switch is so that the pitcher's spot in the order can be changed. IOW, you want the pitcher to come up as late as possible. A double switch allows you to put the new player (coming in for another position player) in what was the pitcher's spot, and the pitcher flips with that guy. It's a little complicated, but let's say Melky Cabrera made the last out of an inning. You want the pitcher in Melky's spot in the order so he won't come up soon. Thus, you replace the pitcher and Melky, and the new pitcher takes Melky's spot in the order. Melky's replacement in the field would bat where the previous pitcher was batting (9th, assuming this was the first double switch). Enigmamsg 04:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Got it, I think, thanks. You'd think w 13 years of interleague play and having watched NL games at various other times, I'd have understood it better by now. It amused me the other day when it was the Marlins who made a mistake w the double switch leading to Clueless Joe's protest. You'd expect it to be an AL team to make the mistake. StarM 12:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Eman! You explained that very well. Better than I could've (but I understand the NL, and all their quirks that they claim are "pure baseball". Hogwash. AL is much better designed, maximizes the pitching as a talent and the hitting as a talent. They are simply separate talents, and a pitcher shouldn't have to bat any more than a batter should have to pitch (ahem, Swisher, ahem)....Keeper | 76 01:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
You didn't close your first parenthesis. ;) Tsk tsk. Anyway, interesting thing happened. I was watching last night's game with a Yankees fan (like Star) and he asked me the same thing. Prior to this, I can't remember ever being asked to explain the double switch. It's why I had some trouble phrasing my answer here, but I think I got the general gist communicated. Enigmamsg 01:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
For a while, Swisher was our best pitcher. Oh and who was swept despite an unbeatable closer? Tw... what was their name again? No worries, Wang will never beat an AL team. Watched Mets/Brewers tonight, I think there were two double switches and once again, ESPN said it was the wrong team. Right up there w Tennis channel announcers calling Venus Serena. E-man, I think KRoad is happy not to be pitching to the Yankees again - his defense can't hold up. Watching some AL pitchers bat was amusing. StarM 02:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

P. Joy Webster

I'm sorry I didn't have time to finish the article, and I know I'm not a well-known author, but I feel that my article deserves to be included in Wikipedia. After all, Wikipedia is the "go to" place for people we haven't normally heard of. I didn't understand how to indicate "hang on", and I believe that it was just an automatic deletion.

I'm hoping that you had a good vacation, and that you will restore my article.

Thank you

P. Joy Webster

I'm sorry that I didn't have time to finish the article, and I know that I'm not a well-known author, but isn't Wikipedia the "go to" place to find out about people that we haven't heard of yet? I believe that it was simply an automatic deletion, and that you will agree that I made a good start.

I saw the instruction on putting "hang on" after I saved the article.

I hope you had a nice vacation, and I hope you will restore my article when you come back.

Thank you for your consideration.

Penjoyweb (talk) 20:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

While you wait for Keeper, can you go an have a look at this link, this link and this link and tell us if you meet the criteria that are laid out in any of them, and how. If you do, we can work on demonstrating that so that your article isn't deleting it again, if not, then you've fallen into the common misconception that we'll have an article on anything, I'm afraid. Best wishes, Fritzpoll (talk) 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm clearly not needed here! Same links I would've provided, thanks Fritzpoll. It isn't about how hard your worked on the article, and I apologize if my deleting it came across as unwelcoming. I didn't tag the article for deletion, but I clearly deleted it as not (yet) meeting our guidelines for inclusion in an online encyclopedia of notable events, people, places, things, and books. Good luck with your endeavors as a writer. Now that you are here on Wikipedia, I personally hope you'll share your writing talents "pro bono" with us - we have millions of articles that could use a writer's eye! Keeper | 76 01:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed community ban of NYScholar

Hello. You have previously commented on issues related to User:NYScholar. I have just proposed that NYScholar be community banned here. I am contacting you partly because your participation in the discussion would be welcome, but also because I have referred to your past comments, and want to give you the chance to ensure that I am not misconstruing them or using them out of context. Best, Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 07:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Gopher State?

really? I thought it was like Land of Lakes or something from license plates. StarM 03:41, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

They're made of solid gold even. Can gophers swim? I'm not sure. Twins got Pooh-holed today. Grr. Keeper | 76 03:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Interesting, never knew that before. I remember license plates i.e. You've Got a Friend in Pennsylvania, far better than I do official nicknames. Saw that on Was at Mickey Mantle's watching Yankees/Muts - nice to see my boys play like they should - but I'd not want to face Pujols either. Was surprised he didn't eat the Mets for lunch this week. Amazing talent he has for the game - amazed Cards don't go further w he, Chris Carpenter, etc. StarM 03:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Being that the cards are a "local midwest team", and would be in my division if not in the subpar national league, I'm glad we only face him once every year or two. Of course, we've dealt with the Cardinals effectively when it mattered...Keeper | 76 03:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't really remember that one - I do remember the 1991 well w Kirby and Kent can you buy a vowel Hrbek. I'm hoping Torre stays w the Dodgers next season because that will be an interesting match up StarM 04:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
As fun as the "worst to first" 91 series was (one of the best of all time on most analysts lists), the 87 series was even better for twins fans, because it was so completely unexpected. At the time, we had the lowest regular season record for a WS champ (now surpassed by the more recent Cardinals, ironically). We weren't supposed to win. I was a huge Twinks fan, a bit younger, (my britches, was that really 22 years ago???) and living about 50 miles outside St Louis at the time. A bit tough to run around in my choice of fanfare. Great times. Keeper | 76 14:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


Quite interesting. I did actually read it, and on some levels, I agree. There are some users who would make good admins, and some would just burn out rather quickly. I guess time will tell, but a well thought out rationale. Steve Crossin The clock is ticking.... 02:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Glad you appreciated that. :-) He'll likely pass, and I hope I'm wrong about the burnout. Just a hunch really. Nothing to base it on. Keeper | 76 02:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Get in gear

Hey, your main squeeze hits the front pages and not a word on the Keeperpedia? What's going on here? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

If you notice, my "activity" level on wiki increased a bit over the last day or two. I feel sheepish to admit it, but I logged in to see what was up on my talkpage after seeing that the former governor was getting some facetime on CNN.  :-) Keeper | 76 02:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Something I randomly started thinking about...

I always found it funny when a particular administrator's actions were called into question on AN/I and the admin would reply by saying something to the effect of: "I'll not wheel-war over it, but..." Really? How generous of you! Enigmamsg 04:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

PS - There hasn't been a check-in here for TPSs in quite a while.
LOL. We should do a roll call, perhaps. Just to see who's watchlisting, maybe an ego boost, or maybe an ego bruiser? I've convinced myself.....Roll call!
  1. Here! Keeper | 76 04:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sir here sir! Tan | 39 04:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
    at ease, soldier. Keeper | 76 04:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Edit conflict Present We need to fix this page to get rid of that pesky category. Enigmamsg 04:25, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
    Heh. I forgot I speedy deleted WP:AN/K a few days ago. Seems there were lots of MFDs going on for cross namespace redirects ("vanity redirects") etc. I didn't make AN/K, someone else did (xeno, I think?), but they were seeming to be overwhelming deleted by consensus at mfd, so I spared someone the headache of trudging it over there. Anywho, the Category is now gone.  :-) Keeper | 76 04:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
    I actually am not going to cheat and look, but I think MBisanz did. Anyway, I actually just blocked someone partially for cross-namespace redirects. Enigmamsg 05:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Raises hand LadyofShalott 04:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Still here for some reason! ~ mazca talk 18:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Present and accounted for[ so long as there's baseball, there's a reason for the Keeper-pedia StarM 01:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. Hmm? someone say something interesting (i.e., not about baseball)? ;-) Jclemens (talk) 03:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Oppose non-notable. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  9. OhaiEd (TalkContribs) 04:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  10. Delete and keep Fritzpoll (talk) 07:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  11. (pokes head in) – iridescent 08:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
  12. Don't think of me as late, just in a different timezone. ϢereSpielChequers 10:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Power pro wresting

I was setting up a Power Pro Wrestling Page on Wikipedia, I am in fact the owner of this Wrestling Promotion and would like to know the reason(s) it was deleted. Thank You Dick FoleyDick Foley (talk) 02:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

It was deleted because it is not a notable organization, per our general notability guidelines. You may also be very interested to read our thoughts about editing amidst a conflict of interest that affects your neutrality. Regards, Keeper | 76 02:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

We at war again? ;)

Should be a fun series. I saw the Rochester Red Wings play this weekend. Alexi Casilla looked good, as did Dave Tolleson and some others, whose names I can't remember. Went to Cooperstown on Friday for the first time in eons, had a great time. StarM 01:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Three games under the baggie eh? Should be fun. I don't have tickets to any of them, but it should be a boisterous crowd. Thinking about maybe sneaking out on Thursday, nice thing about small market teams is I can walk up and get a cheap seat pretty much for any game even when a large market team is in town. We did well against the Tigers, they are looking more and more toothless as the season drags on. White Sox are done, as are the Royals (at least four out of five starts. Indians are about to start the fire sale pre trade deadline. Twins are the only solid team throughout the lineup, both defensively, starting pitching, and any other important category. go Twins! Should be a fun series. If there is any justice in the world after the heartbreak series in the Bronx, we'll win 3 games, all in the bottom of the 9th...Keeper | 76 01:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)I don
I agree re: Mauer and Morneau, but I have to disagree on Nathan, at least as I saw him in May. I think he gets overused like others. I don't want to see Morneau with runners on in the baggie-dome. Baltimore and Cleveland are going to give Nationals run for their money for poor play - sad thing is they all have some talent. Don't get why we traded for Eric Hinske, but he apparently looked good today. I was relegated to Gameday while at the office. As I said to a friend today, I don't think the Yankees are going all the way, but I think they will make the playoffs. I'm having fun watching the Muts implode while their fans whinge about such a "tough" division, when in 2nd place 3 games under .500. StarM 02:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Nathan is a New Yorker, grew up a Yanks fans. I have my own conspiracy theories about his performance behind the white fences. If you look at the stats, he has more saves (and a higher percentage of saves per opportunity) than any other American League closer in the last half decade. Not Francisco, or Mariano, or Jonathan. A simple man named Joe, working his tail off for a small market midwestern farm team. I should probably find the stats to back that up....Keeper | 76 02:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Talk to me when he gets 500 :p. Papelbon needs a new birthday because I had it first and not sharing. Want to feel old? Phil Hughes, 1986. As my boss said, "No one is born in 1986". Don't know a lot about Nathan, don't even really recall him other than the Friday game when they were proclaiming the game done because he was infallible. Oops. When I saw your edit summary I thought you were defending Clueless Joe and was wondering what you were smoking and whether I could have some. StarM 03:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The damn Yankees announcers spending more time counting down to Starry nights, the curtain, etc. How about calling the game? Feed also sucks monkey butt. StarM 01:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

No scores please! I'm recording, likely won't be able to start watching until around midnight eastern. SSShh! Keeper | 76 01:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Nope, wouldn't do that. Just commenting on shit-nouncing. Pluys the feed is fuzzy and um... pixelated. That the word? StarM 03:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Bugger all, my dvr didn't set. I'm supposed to start watching soon. Grr. Keeper | 76 04:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Game 2 no spoilers

Sorry your DVR no workee :( Crede (sp?) made a *nice* catch. StarM 01:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Stupid yankees. I'm caught up to "live" now. Get your pinstripes outta my town, eh? Keeper | 76 00:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Sowwy. No, I'm not. Today they were both trying to lose rather than win. Can't you play and beat the Red Sox for us, please? StarM 02:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
We can't seem to do anything against the AL east right now. Blue Jays have historically had our number, tampa bay suddenly decided they know how to play ball. (mostly because of the lopsided trade that brought us Delmon Young for Garza and Bartlett (both freeking allstars, are you kidding me?). The O's are the only team we've managed. Need to get back to interleague play....Keeper | 76 03:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
LOL. I won't tell you who I think you're going to try and shop next. I read sched wrong, thought you were playing the other Sox this weekend. It's only appropriate that the Yanks fall into a tie for 1st today as it's three years that my Dad is gone (well technically tomorrow). Also always had a bet with a neighbor at 1st at the break. Let's see if they can get it. Funny thinng is, Mauer killed us again yesterday but today when it was 5-4 Yanks with bases loaded (after two walk0in runs, I think, haven't seen full Game day) and he was up, and somehow grounded out StarM 03:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Home Run Derby

Anyone watching it? Nelson "The Unknown" Cruz and Prince "Dr. Huge" Fielder are in the finals. Been a pretty decent contest so far, besides certain entrants being entirely underwhelming: Adrian Gonzalez, only 2 HR, and Brandon Inge with a All-Star Game tomorrow should be exciting, though. :) GlassCobra 02:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I knew they'd dominate from the start.  ;) Congrats to Prince Fielder. Keeper, it seems you've managed to suck me back into MySpace Keeperpedia to talk about baseball again... >_> Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz! 03:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I went to sleep o:) I was bored. Agreed re: the who's and underwhelming performance. I might stay up for the All Star Game-think they all start and go way too late though. Keep, I have to say -without his catching gear- never realised how cute Mauer is. StarM 12:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Apparently he raps, too! :P GlassCobra 18:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
and our president looked like a rapper in those jeans! StarM 01:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Decent game. Predictable outcome, although rather a fizzle of a game, all things considered. Not much for highlights. Twins had an impact, especially Nathan's crucial 8th inning with strikeout king at the plate. Mauer crossed the plate, and plated one as well. I can see Hank going after Mauer to crouch behind the plate wearing pin stripes. May it never be, but I won't blame the guy for taking the east coast money after a year or two in in the field that Joe built. Keeper | 76 05:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
My buddy was calling the NL to win, but I went with AL. I was a bit worried, but luckily Adam Jones made that sac fly. Nathan did well, and my main man Mo closed out the game perfectly as usual. I called Crawford for MVP as well, though I think it could have been given to Granderson or Nathan just as easily. Here's my real question though: why didn't anyone try to stop Selig from giving home field advantage for the Series to the winner of the All-Star Game? That's an awful rule. GlassCobra 15:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I think especially now, no one cares since it hasn't meant WS dominance or anyting , but I agree, stupid. Actually stayed awake the whole game and watched it. Keeps, I think Mauer's gone from Lando'Lakes at the end of next season when is contract is up, if the Twinkies don't try to move him before then to get some $$. Crawford-great catch but Papelbum didn't earn the win. He tried to give it back! OK, outta here and on a plane. Catch you both at month's end! Keeper, feel free to try and fix my wb template that I brok :( tried to copy the last one you made me StarM 03:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Worth noting

That Ottava accused me of lying and manipulating the words of others at the Auto-Admin discussion.

But of course you're not going to say anything about that, are you? → ROUX  00:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I said "possibly make stuff up" which was verified by my quoting directly from the proposing policies policy which states to list any proposed policies as RfC policies, which means that all proposed policies are RfCs. Thus, when you claimed otherwise you showed a clear lack of actually having read the page, which suggests that you determined your facts from your imagination. Ottava Rima (talk) 01:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you, take this elsewhere. Roux, you are incorrigible, and now ironic because you are manipulating Ottava's quote to claim that he is manipulating yours. I'm speechless. Ottava, stop feeding it. Keeper | 76 01:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Whirlwind wo substance

you know the whole reason I logged in was to post this? Been back since Sunday and no desire what so ever even to log in, but had to comment here on the substance-less flurry of a trade deadline. Sure, Lee to Philly was big but that doesn't count as it's not at the deadline. No wow moves today. Had fun trying to keep up on Twitter. August will be interesting. I'll be lurking, maybe. Always check in here but I just felt no pull to do anything :( StarM 03:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

We didn't trade anyone, so I guess that's good. Although there are a few pitchers I can live without at the moment (I won't blue link anyone here, for BLP reasons :-). We did make a good pickup at shortstop though - offensively and defensively, and postseason experience. Go twins! Keeper | 76 05:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Don't know who's been stinking up the joint for you at pitcher, but someone just said same to me on Twitter. You can have Sergio Mitre if you want. Yanks called up Anthony Clagett today just because they expected him to be useless. What optimism. This weekend's series is going to be interesting. StarM 00:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
So far, I've made one prediction correct. On July 7th (a few threads up), I said: Indians are about to start the fire sale pre trade deadline. 4 weeks later and all of their players are Wikipedia redlinks...LOL. No if only the Tigers could stop being so dang good. Stupid Leland. Keeper | 76 03:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Pavano? PAVANO? Yied 0-0 B13. Amazing after 13-6 StarM 03:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Pavano. Who knew? Now, if only we had a large enough rotation so that he only had to pitch against el Tigres...Keeper | 76 18:55, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Watch out, the Twins' patch on his jersey could impale him, forcing him to miss the next decade StarM 23:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

ohal page

Hi there

Could I please ask you to send me a copy of the ohal page ( deleted on 19/02/08, so that we can modify it so that it conforms to current rules and guidelines.

Many thanks in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeper999 (talkcontribs)

I've made a copy of the entire article, consisting of one sentence, to your userspace. It can be found by clicking here. Interesting username. Keeper | 76 05:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
He's 923 times better than you, Keep. Tan | 39 05:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, according to my math, he's only 13.144 times better.  :-) Keeper | 76 03:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Pedantic twit ;p Besides, it's closer to 13.144736842105263157894736842105... –xenotalk 20:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

holy shit

I don't care who you're you're a fan of, that was an AMAZING game. A-MA-ZING. WOW. If there are Sox fans here, I'm not gloating, I'm in awe of the game. StarM 04:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it was an Amazing game. Wait, the sox? The Twins weren't playing the Sox. They just crushed the Tigers. Silly star, you seem confused :-) Keeper | 76 18:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
tigers? who cares about the tigers? At least the Lions are lovable losers. Some FUBARed shit with Victorino today. At least keeps eyes off Big Popper and his "vitamins"! Sometimes 162 games is a tad too long StarM 23:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Saw this on my watchlist and instantly thought 'Lawd, Keeper's the baseball one'. This is important because last Friday I attended my first ever game (or popped my baseball cherry, if you will). I'm staying with a guy in San Diego and we saw the Padres-Mets thing, and it was very exciting. Anyway, sorry for the massive hijack, but I hadn't been able to understand what the hell you guys were on about until now :D Alex Muller 20:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to the right side of the pond, Mr. Muller. The dark side, really. Baseball is the only sport worth talking about at any length. Glad to have you amongst the ranks :-) Keeper | 76 06:08, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to the insanity. Baseball and football, especially when a washed up used to was whose name isn't Favre decides he needs to make news. hard to focus on football though when my Yankees are playing well. Happy Friday all! StarM 12:08, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

StarM when are you going to marry Keeper? Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia marriages now? O_O —Ed (TalkContribs) 19:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
For a small fee, anything is possible. Jclemens (talk) 20:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I didn't hear a proposal? :) StarM 03:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
It's a good thing I'm not around much, I would have been in trouble for blocking Blofeld for that perceived attack against Star M's judgment as an administrator :-) Keeper | 76 19:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Favre circus making you crazy yet?

When "Chilly" broke the "news" today I just cringed. Enough already. StarM 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

As you said, tough to focus on silly football shenanigans when the Yanks are playing so well. :) GlassCobra 05:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
True, however he's at Ground Zero of it all and with a baseball team that isn't doing well :p StarM 02:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I hate Farv. Hated him as a packer, hated him for the crap he put Jets fans through, and now really really really dislike the vikings management for falling for his shenanigans. Here me say this - I will be cheering for the Packers when they come to the dome. If anyone knew me IRL, they'd no how serious, and heartbreaking, a comment that is, coming from me. Keeper | 76 19:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I can't say I hate him, the man is talented but he needs to know when to quit. Rice played until 42, but Favre's no Rice and last two seasons have shown Brett doesn't have it anymore. Speaking of Jets fans, and beatwriters, interesting reading. I may be at the Vikings Giants game at the big pillow and that will be interesting. Would love Corey Webster to end his career again w an INT. because I can't imagine he'll play two years without theatrics. On another note, hope Justin Morenau is OK. That sounds like a scary situation. Oh and the Mess are imploding again. StarM 02
16, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


no, not the New York Mess, although they did it too. Nice feat by Cuddyer, all too amusing since it was off King Worthless. See, can't say I don't pay attn to your Twinkies btw Home Run Derbys. StarM 00:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I like Pavano. There. I said it. Best person to be added to a Minnesota team this summer. *cough* Farvre sucks *cough* Keeper | 76 00:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
LOL, watched Jets/Ravens and St. Mark Sanchez get stuffed by Ray Lewis. Santana done=Mets done again StarM 12:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


Hi there Keeper, I was just browsing through the AWB checkpage, and noticed you are put down as a bot. I'm presuming this is just a mistake, and you can fix it by moving your username into the user section (note that, since you're an administrator, there is actually no need to have your name on that list, so feel free to remove it completely). Bear in mind that being marked as a bot means you can make edits with AWB without having to review them (i.e. fully automated edits), and that such edits are bot edits, and thus require a bot request for approval. Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 08:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You're on to me! The truth is out, I'm not human!!!! Abort mission! Abort mission! (thanks, Kingpin) Keeper | 76 16:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Just FYI Kingpin, being in the bot section of the AWB checkpage doesn't make ones edits marked with the +b, you'll need the bot flag for that. It just means you can run AWB in auto-mode without having to click save. And I've, once or twice, bent the rules and put myself in there to run a short task.
As to why Keeper was in there... a sad sack of an admin who couldn't use AWB if the 'pedia depended on it... I'm not sure ;> –xenotalk 16:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC) here's why: [45]. weirdo.
Heh. Like I said, you're on to me. Leave it to bot-xeno (I've always had my doubts about whether blood ran through his veins or not) to take the time to find a link, from 2008, where I added myself as a bot. Only Xeno has the time for that. Leave it to Wikipedia to not catch it for 14 months. L.O.L. (Love you, Xeno! You and your silly dashboard.) Keeper | 76 16:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Whats more! I was driven to find out exactly why you would do such an inexplicable thing. Well, here's the links so you don't have to dig it up yerself: [46] [47]xenotalk 16:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Man, that seems like forever ago. I remember that guy making up new categories (not blofeld, the crazy guy). Jdelanoy was fixing things super-hot-manga-fast. I was impressed. And probably a bit tipped and trashed. It was a weird summer. You seem to need things to do today. Interesting. Wanna project? Keeper | 76 16:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks xeno, I was already aware of that. Sorry I didn't make that more clear in my message, I meant "marked as a bot in AWB's checkpage". Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 16:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I just love a good wiki-mystery. I'm out for breakfast presently ,but what's the task? –xeno talk 16:58, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I didn't say that I had a project for you, just that you seemed to need one.  :-) Keeper | 76 00:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
You said "Wanna project?" you crazy old fool ! I've been waiting ever since !!! –xenotalk 00:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Again, Xeno. I simply asked you if you want a project. Tis only you that has the assumption that I have one for you. I'll see if I can come up with one I guess, hate to be the heartbreaker...Keeper | 76 00:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


so if you make the post season, does Nathan pitch? I swear all the big name closers are having issues this season, although luckily Mo seems to have settled down. Touch wood. But PapelBUM, Nathan, Lidge, K Rod... Que mess. So White Sox start unloading everything in sight, including Thome, but then Ozzie claims he won't give the kids a chance because that's admitting defeat. Can someone please beat the other Sox, please? PS: Your lovely state in January-am I insane? StarM 00:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

This place is the very definition of insane in January. We've gone weeks without going above freezing. I believe the record in January is something like 6 days without climbing into positive temperatures (staying below 0deg F). Crazy place. We have a very nice skyway system though, so you never need to go outside if downtown. Of course, said skyway doesn't go all the way to the Dome, which is on the outside fringe of downtown MPLS. Keeper | 76 00:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh damn, so in other words I'm going to freeze? :) I'm not sure if I'm going but the price is right but if I'm moving this fall, I won't be able to go to Bucs or eagles on the road so might try going to see Grimace and friends :) Package includes game transfers and I assume said vehicles are heated. Hotel is the Hyatt, not sure if it's near the dome or not (haven't looked). StarM 04:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Grass in the new stadium???????

Michael Kay was talking about the upcoming move from the Pillowdome and how it means one less astroturf stadium... They're going to try to grow grass in MN in APril and October? What are they smoking? StarM 00:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Heated floors. Nothing "natural" about the grass, other than it grows in dirt. It will be pre-heated to "fool" it into growing early (we generally don't mow anything naturally until mid-May or later, and we generally stop mid to late-September). We've already had a frost warning in my area. Masochism. Keeper | 76 00:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Got it, that makes "sense". Well as much sense as natural grass is in mn. Frost warning? Eek! We had a very non-summerish summer lots ofrain but no frost. StarM 04:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Impressive lag today

"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 13378 seconds may not appear in this list. " Enigmamsg 19:00, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I haven't had any lag yet... I feel left out... :( - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't, it's incredibly frustrating trying to check back on your recent edits to find you can't from the My Contributions page, and you can't remember where you've edited. Argh. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat  19:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
LOL... teh 'pedia iz lagged... we're in teh Keeperspace, killing yer timez... there's always time for a good discussion about VPILFs or balls... /me scurries off before Keeper comes back... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Everytime I see Tina Fey, I fondly remember the insanity of this talkpage last summer....Keeper | 76 06:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
That wasn't insanity, that was pure unforgettable entertainment... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
P.S. You still owe me an indef, IIRC, what with your rouge farewell like, all gone and passed & stuff... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
P.P.S. WTF?!?!?! - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


Keeper, have you really been an admin for only 1 year 8 months (as it says on your user page)? We met when you deleted my buddy TheProf. I hope you got out on a boat this summer! Take care - the former Kek15. (talk) 21:01, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I was an admin for about a year. I pretty much vacated the place (and stopped most editing in general) last fall. Although I still keep the bit, my password is ridiculously hard to remember or hack, and I may come back someday. Hope you're well, kek, thanks for stopping by! Keeper | 76 06:00, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I think I remember something about you starting a new job where you wouldn't be at a keyboard all day. I scrambled my old password so would have to come back as someone else - if I did. I still do some minor copyediting (a former profession IRL). You were a teacher at one time IIRC. Take care Keeper. Kek (talk) 17:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Crikey, Kek. You remember more of my smoke screens than I do. :-) I have very rarely revealed anything about my identity on any website, including Wikipedia. Keeper | 76 02:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

At it again...

You remarked at the time of my RfA that I'd be wandering around slowly tinkering with processes and the occasional article. Just so you know, I'm at it again - more excited about the possibilities of the first than the second. Going to have a stab at writing a couple of new articles, including a possible spinout from an old topic. Also fiddling around with Frasier and a rather dull article currently in my userspace. Don't know why I'm telling you this, beyond the fact that I saw you edit Malleus' page and now want to know what you're up to, and am preempting your lack of interest in my activities :). Still IP editing? Fritzpoll (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Fritz. No, not really IP editing either at the moment. Too busy, and not motivated. My watchlist is down to a very select group of articles, and I rarely check in anymore. RFK is still on the list though with a few others. Hope you are well, thanks for stopping over - :-) Keeper | 76 02:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Minnesota Meetup

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Details under discussion.
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Twinkies // Eco

Wow, making it an interesting September indeed. Much better than last year for me. I'm agnostic as to who we play-you or Detroit, I'd really like the Rangers to wake up and take out the Halos. Eco = Pastor Theo = WTF?? Someone just gave me that heads up this AM. So confuzzled. StarM 04:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

and are you really second fiddle in your own ballpark? StarM 16:32, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
drive by to keep this from archiving - thank god your grapes pulled it out against the putty tats. StarM 21:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware that you (StarM) incurred the Wrath Of Eco yourself IRL at one point? – iridescent 21:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't. What amuses me? I'd e-mailed him enough in btw RfAs that he knew my real name so the pseudonym attack is even more amusing. What befuddles me - I had no idea at all he was back. He told me he wanted no contact after the 2nd RfA drama and was using another e-mail-and I never heard boo from him. How'd you find that link? StarM 01:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
You (StarM) have mail. And yes, the irony of "people who don’t sign their names to public statements don’t deserve respect" coming from someone signing their posts "Ecoleetage", "Pastor Theo" and "A Horse With No Name" doesn't escape me. – iridescent 11:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Got it and responded 2x. Insane. Wonder what his goal is other than obvious self promotion. Does Wikipedia really do that much for people that they resort to this shit? StarM 01:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow your boys are making a race of it

bar where I was watching Yankees/Sox had your game on as well. Since I don't care whether we play you or Detroit, I'm officially neutral. Actually I prefer a Morneau less you, because you don't have VErlander :) StarM 19:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

eta, interesting article that I thought you might enjoy on the Big Baggie StarM 14:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Considering the Twins fate whenever they play the Yanks in the postseason (absolutely horrifying, from my standpoint), you should probably be cheering for my dome-boys. And holy crap, Eco. Seriously. I remembered that I supported P.Theo in his admin request. What's kind of creepy about what I wrote, it could have just as easily been written to Eco Read for yourself. Little did I know I actually was writing it to Eco. Keeper | 76 02:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm also watching the AL Central race, and agree with you guys that the Yanks would probably be a little better off facing a Morneau-less Twins than the Tigers and Verlander. Got fingers crossed that Cuddyer snaps out of his ridiculous hot streak that he's on since taking over at first... GlassCobra 20:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to be watching the race - and I really wonder why close races like this aren't on MLBN. Of course I must admit glee at watching Boston go bass ackwards into the playoffs. That said, I'm sure they'll wake at the worst moment. Two tough losses, Keeps. Your other Purple People Eaters are looking frighteningly good. The Eco thing still befuddles me. StarM 03:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

My god, do I need to come pitch for your 'pen? Andyes, I am rooting for you to pull this out. As I wait for my broker to call to look at apts - watching college football. WTF is a Golden Gopher???? StarM 18:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Did someone say Giants? How have you been Keeper ol boy? --Endlessdan and his problem 23:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

It isn't football season yet, in my world. In fact, it's not even postseason baseball yet. Game 163 tomorrow. Go Twins! After the Twins season is over, I'll get caught up with what the vikes are doing. I heard rumors that we have a new quarterback... Keeper | 76 14:13, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Really? Is it someone we might have heard of? I can't decide who I want to play - you guys are red hot, Tigers are trying to hold on. Let's go Nationals?? StarM 04:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Purple People Eaters

oh that was insane. Fun to watch, but insane. Jared Allen is a monster. StarM 04:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Four and a half! It was a really fun game to watch. Tan | 39 04:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Indeed! Reading Allen's blog is hysterical too. I feel bad for QBs-running for their lives, just wish the Vikings would play Dallas :o StarM 12:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Football hasn't started yet. :-) Keeper | 76 00:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
did you really not watch? I'm trying to make sure I get cable connected in the new place before I move in StarM 00:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Of course I watched. I wanted to see the metrodome the night before the big game, to be sure those two teams weren't doing any damage to my boys' field... :-) Keeper | 76 00:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Congrats to the Twinkies

what a game! My rooting for the Twins ends now StarM 01:47, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Urg, rough one for a Tigers fan. Hard to feel sorry for them; they had two dozen chances in the past two weeks, and half of those tonight, to win - and pissed them away. Tan | 39 02:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Are you a full Detroit sports fan? I guess at least your hockey team generally keeps you happy? I couldn't believe the Twins pulled it out, Tigers had so many chances they didn't capitalize on. I'm just hoping for a very tired Twins team ala the hangover the Yankees had after the '03 ALCS StarM 12:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Go Twins....not liking tonight's outcome so far (currently in the 6th or 7th), but what. an. amazing. game. last. night. My goodnes.. Keeper | 76 00:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm amazed you're able to speak in coherent sentences, have you slept? I hate these early starts. Would like Carston Charles to get out of this StarM 00:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I was popping Zantac last night like Skittles, but other than that, I couldn't have written a hollywood movie script with the things that were done in last night's game. It would have been rejected as too unrealistic and overly drama-fied. I'm drama-fried. I'm perfectly content with whatever happens from here out, because I'm absolutely elated to finally, finally, here sportscenter say something positive about the Twins that wasn't only about Mauer. That said, WTF are we both doing on Wikipedia? Isn't there a playoff game on right now? :-) Keeper | 76 00:41, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Congrats to the Twins, Keep, however you've brought about your own demise, I'm afraid. My MLB postseason bracket predicts the Yanks taking this series in 3. :P GlassCobra 20:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm completely satisfied (holding out hope, but satisfied) in the season we put together, what with the injuries we've endured, and the payroll we have to work with. We have the deserving MVP and 3 time batting champion, we have the guy with the most saves in the big leages since 2002, (look it up, it isn't who you think). We have the most underrated hitter in the Bigs, we have a previous MVP, and none of them are the locker room captain. We might not get past Goliath this weekend, but we will dive, run, slide headfirst, bunt, steal, claw, scratch and kick until told to go home. And we do this without getting put in tabloids and dating princesses. Go. Twins. We probably won't win, but we'll have a hell of a time trying. And don't count 'em out until the games are done....we are exactly where we want to be. Keeper | 76 22:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I hate to disagree with you, but we have the deserving MVP. We also have the pitcher with the lowest postseason ERA and WHIP in history, as well as the most postseason saves. Can't forget the guy with the most homers in the AL, not to mention the pitcher with the second most postseason wins in history. We also don't have anyone that needs to be justified with subjective labels like "most underrated," or anyone that is currently on the bench with stress fractures. ;) The tabloid bits I'm not going to stoop to discuss, though I will mention that if Kate Hudson was going after me, I would probably do whatever she wanted. :) Anyway, best of luck to you guys, I'm sure it'll be fantastic baseball. However, I suspect it might be overshadowed by the very persistent rumors that your catcher will be wearing pinstripes fairly soon. :P GlassCobra 23:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Know there's a book that says something about coveting thy neighbor's ass, what about thy opponent's catcher? I *really* want Mauer, even how bad Mariano made him look in that last AB. My hero today is PapelTURD. All hail PapelTurd. That said, Mauer will get the MVP and Greinke, despite playing a shit ass division will get the Cy Young. Don't care so long as we get the ring StarM 02:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Still very satisfied with the Twins season. And don't even pretend to believe that Jeter had a better year than Mauer, G-cobra. Not even close, in any category. You Yank fans should thank your lucky stars at how that series turned out. You know deep down that the series could've very very easily been 2 games to 1 in the Twinks favor going into a game 4 tonight at the dome. You stole game two (well, actually, a horrific call in deep left field stole game two), and a baserunning blunder in game 3 by Punto handed you that one. In all his years as a Twink (the only remaining Piranha), I don't think I've seen Punto make a baserunning mistake. A bit disheartened at "what could have been", but overall, very satisfied, very proud of my boys, and very much looking forward to next spring. On to football! 5-0! Setting up to be quite a matchup with Eli's boys, eh? Keeper | 76 01:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Haha! Actually, I know in my heart that I'm surprised it was even that close, we should have kicked your asses much harder. :P The call in Game 2 was definitely wrong, but then again, so was the call against Inge in the Central tiebreaker, and you guys wouldn't even have made it to face us without that, so you really shouldn't be blaming anything on calls. Punto's mistake in Game 3 would only have tied the game IIRC, so it's not really logical to jump to conclusions there either. However, I do of course congratulate you guys, you played some good ball; Blackburn and Pavano were particularly impressive. :) StarM, as much as Mauer would be a good addition to the team, my guess is that we won't be going after him, we'll have our hands full outbidding the Red Sox for Aroldis Chapman (and maybe Yusei Kikuchi and Miguel Angel Sano), signing Chone Figgins, and possibly going for Jason Bay or Matt Holliday...though we may be able to get the latter for a discount after his gaffe in Game 2 against the Dodgers, heh. GlassCobra 13:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't actually want any of those other than Jason Bay, and that's only because we're grasping at ways to keep Matsui :) I thin the Yankees go after Mauer just because they can and we need a catcher. Montrero isn't going to catch and much as Cervelli is an upgrade over Molina, he's no one's #1 catcher. Personally I'd prefer to stay away from the Japanese market - other than Matsui we've done abysmally. Perhaps we need better scouts. Keeper, yes it will be interesting to see where we both stand come Jan 2, or thereabouts for the match up. Could well be a post season match up as well, but I'm not thinking too far behind my imploding fantasy team and this week vs. the Saints. StarM 01:02, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) StarM, here's a bit of interesting reading on the Damon/Matsui situation; though my gut still tells me we'll be retaining Damon and letting Matsui walk if he wants to. Damon still has a bit of pop left in him; if Matsui hits anything besides a home run, he's virtually a guaranteed out by way of the fact that his knees don't let him run farther than a few feet without giving out completely. (Okay, a bit embellished, but still...) Matsui is decidedly a DH-only player, and we'll need the spot for Posada soon. I'm just not sure Mauer is going to be on the Yanks' list, even if the miniscule possibility of him escaping the Twins' clutches is realized. Mauer is the Twins' #1 priority right now, as he very well should be. GlassCobra 17:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Admit it

that was you, running onto the field in the bottom of the 9th! :) StarM 02:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL. —Ed (talkcontribs) 02:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
LOL x2. Proof it wasn't me? My geriatric legs would not have made it all the way to right center before being tackled...Keeper | 76 00:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure, always making yourself *look* innocent. I just moved apartments. Currently sitting with laptop on xerox box and tv on card table. But I have cable and internet! StarM 00:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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Funny quote

Check out this quote that I found from User:LuckyPanda, "I am a frequent viewer of straight pornography." Needless to say, I think that that is deservant of your quote section.

I haven't edited that page in over a year. Keeper | 76 04:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I would do it, but it's protected. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:34, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Huh. Didn't remember that. I opened it back up. Keeper | 76 03:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Fribbulus Xax's RfA

Face-grin.svg Thanks, Keeper76, for supporting me in my RFA. It passed unanimously. I am very grateful of your input – if you have any further comments, let me know!
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Congrats to Mauer

well earned MVP, and that's not sarcasm at all. He played well and wow 27/28 first place votes. Your QB is a MACHINE StarM 03:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

There never really was any doubt, knowing how many categories he topped, as a catcher no less. Honestly, I'd rather have the trophy that your team keeps hogging, though. If you are a praying person, or if God owes you a favor, you best hope your Cashman and Steinjunior pay for Mauer so that he doesn't end up in beantown. My money is on beantown. The players union won't allow him to sign for pennies on his worth to stay home. Next year is his last in Minnie. Keeper | 76 03:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Jeter not getting MVP was MLB's birthday present to me, because he's overrated enough as it is and Mauer was most deserving. I don't think there's any doubt that Steinbrenners go after Mauer, I just hope his knees and shoulders hold up. I'd much rather have Mauer than Halladay or Holliday, or really any of the current FAs. Don't think Lackey will be a good move in NYC. Watching your purple peeople eaters tonight on heals of big Giants win. Disliking the Cowgirls, can we at least agree on that? Hope all is well in Keeper world. Life is good here, but I don't really miss Wikipedia. I stick my head in periodically to check on friends StarM 01:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it bad that I originally read "FAs" as "featured articles"? :) —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 01:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Lol, ed, I did too :-). Re Star, yep, my wiki-time is mostly gone, I'm only hear to talk smack about baseball and football. Just don't enjoy the politics, got enough IRL. I'm happy for Mauer, and hope he takes the money and goes East. He deserves to make so much more than my market can pay him, he is really that special a player. I'll be heartbroken, but I'll consider him a midwestern fool not to take the money for the next decade. We unloaded our Go-go, should be interesting to see how Hardy does at SS. If it's the old JJ, we are going to have a solid year with everyone healthy. Predicted that Arizona game, btw, from sunday night. Only off on the score, I guessed 38-13, AZ. Keeper | 76 03:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

The move I don't understand so far? Granderson. Granted I missed the two Putty Tat series this year so have no recollection and I don't think we gave up that much, but it's an odd move. As is the pick in the Rule 5 draft. I'm finding it hard to get into baseball mode, even with an event I just worked where we honored the Muts and Yankees. I have to say Ron Darling and David Cone are two of the nicest gentlemen - and Ed Charles is a great story teller. I'm *really* hoping if we filet the Birds Sunday that we also win v. Redskins and Carolina Putty Tats. By then you'll have wrapped 2nd seed and resting everyone and we can win and take the wild card, if not NFC East. C'mon Dallas, time to do your December dance. My interest in the pedia is gone. Sad but I don't even give much of a crap about the most unique little museums, although I'm really trying to help the editor who has asked me some questions. Wiki burnout seems high of late, which is sad. Off to some good people watching in SantaCon with my new camera (SX20IS) that I can't wait to use. Happy weekend all StarM 05:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

You know what's sickening?

I read a sports messageboard which has a lot of Yankees fans on it, and they started drooling a few months ago about how the team will sign Mauer. It's kind of a joke when every good player...

Anyway, "Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 2,657 seconds may not appear in this list. " Enigmamsg 04:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Enjoy the season!

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what's up with Purple Jesus?

he's showing he's fallible? W17 has the potential to be a much more interesting game now. If you pop in here between now and then, Merry Christmas Keeps from your favorite team and it's new folks: Javier Vasquez, Curtis Granderson and Nick Johnson. StarM 02:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The Vikes always find creative ways to fall apart. Look at their 15-1 season, for example. I have no expectations of playoff success. Looking forward to baseball season, to be honest, got one good addition so far. My anticipation of spring could also be because of the snowdrifts in my yard, climbing halfway up my house and threatening to soon overtake the view out the windows. I've got 20+ inches on the ground, with another 12" coming tonight. Ho, ho, ho. Good luck finding the chimney, Santa. Merry Christmas to you to TC - Keeper | 76 21:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Wow, just thought of you when I was reading this post from one of my favorite Giants' beat writers. YUCK! I'm very glad I didn't make the trip I was considering this weekend. I'd freeze to death! What a game on MNF. What a come back. I'm among the few who doesn't hate Favre and is therefore rooting for him, if not the Purple People. That and the Giants gave up :( Don't know enough about Hardy - but sounds like a good pick up. Remind me again why anyone would want to play/watch outdoors in Minnesota again? No way. Hope Santa found you and was good to you. Happy Y2K+10 StarM 16:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

AHHH... the pedia's done busted!!!

Saw this and couldn't help but think "Oop... I better go file a report at AN/K..."

"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 2,844 seconds may not appear in this list."

Who blew up the 'pedia this time? - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

That's how the devs entice you to donate. –Juliancolton | Talk 04:51, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
  • duplicate post warning* :P Enigmamsg 05:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, but I got the higher score... :P - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
My friend the rogue guv was in my town this weekend, perhaps that crashed the system. I wonder if she knows what crap went on on this talkpage about her last fall...Keeper | 76 03:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
ROFL... how did I know that the 'pedia crashing would result in a VPILF comment from Keeper... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:27, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Adolphus, come on. You should have known by now that Keeper has an odd obsession with that far-right nutjob who isn't as pretty as everyone makes her out to be. *hides from the oncoming lynchers* —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 04:31, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Everyone knows she's the high-def, high-polish version of Tina Fey. Anonymous Grade school teacher meets superhot lifeguard lady. Grrr......... Keeper | 76 03:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Tina Fey, hot... VPILF, not so much... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

New one

how sad that the last time this happened still hasn't been archived yet...

"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 4,298 seconds may not appear in this list."

- Adolphus79 (talk) 03:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

now it's up to 4,858... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:20, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

MILFs and balls, it's up to 5,370... fix it Keeper! - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:29, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

OK... not funny anymore guys, it's up to 6,557... I'm giving up and going to watch TV for a bit... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:48, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

And of course there's the obligatory ANI thread because, you know, maybe nobody noticed the database is slow so it ought to be reported. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 04:58, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

lol, sbhb :-) Keeper | 76 06:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Still here

Just checking in to let you know I'm still here (two years today). Even though I can see you're not very active any more, you can take credit for the help and encouragement you gave me when I started. Over the last year I've managed my first FA and another GA and set up the assessment scheme for WikiProject SCUBA. I've even got my own RexxS's Day (Nov 12). Thanks again for the inspiration. --RexxS (talk) 16:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

And you claim Keeper helped you and encouraged you to be a better Wikipedian? LOL - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
It's easy for youngsters like yourself to be cynical <grin>, so I guess I'd better provide the evidence: User talk:RexxS/Archive 1#Welcome and Talk:Heliox#Maintenance tags are two that I remembered immediately. Have a great New Year! --RexxS (talk) 21:19, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Scuba guy! Glad you are still enjoying the place and finding places to make the -pedia better. I still value Wikipedia very highly as a resource, I just don't have the time and energy to muddle through the politics or find the motivation to write about anything of interest. Nice work on the FA/GA, and happy new year to you! Keeper | 76 22:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Ugh what a mess

go ahead and enjoy it. This is hideous. Ugh. Glad I didn't make trip StarM 20:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Vikings will always find a way to lose, ye of little faith. Sorry about your G-men, they punched the clock about 6 games ago. Not sure what their tipping point was when they cashed in for the year, but it's frustrating to watch after such a strong start, trust me I know. Looking back at who they beat to go 5-0 (all teams with losing records), and then who they lost to 5 straight to end up 5-5 (all teams that are in the playoffs), the giants really weren't that good this year to begin with. Middle of the pack team, if it's any consolation in any weird way. Vikes are truly good, but that's when they tend to disappoint the most. Farv included. He's still on Green Bay's payroll. If we play them next weekend (or in the NFC title game) the true Farv colors (green and gold) will show up in disastrous form. A bit conspiracy theory, yes. But I think all the "falling out" with the GB admin was all smoke and mirrors. The guy holds every record basically that exists for a quarterback, plus many records for football in general. Their was no "fallng out", just a double-agent. "Go play in purple Brett. We'll see you in the title game. You know what to do." Keeper | 76 22:55, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Am rooting even harder for your Vikings next week since they (PLEASE!) need to issue the Cowgirls out of the playoffs. As it is I have to stand in Times Sq. with a sign professing my love for the Cowboys. Thanks for nothing, Eagles, although an Eagles loss always makes a Giants fan happy. Giants seemed to die in Denver on Thanksgiving and I don't get it. They'd just beet Falcons and then beat the Cowgirls again. Close against the Eagles and DEMOLISHED Redskins and then rolled over again. Don't get it, never will. FWIW. Am rooting for Vikings/Colts in Miami but my gut is Chargers/Packers. Hoping the Ravens keep it up today because I was 0-2 yesterday. Oy. Oy. Hope all is well in Keeper land StarM 19:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
The only team that really made me nervous was the Packers, and AZ took care of them, although it took 51 points and 5 qtrs to take down Rodgers (man, that kid looks better and better every time I see him...) I'm nervous for the next 5-10 years where the vikes will have no one at QB, and GB will have Rodgers. This won't be a pretty decade for anyone else in the NFC north unless someone actually gets a QB (Cutler in Chicago? nope - Stafford in Detroit? Nope.) The 2010s will belong to the Pack. This is our year, we can beat anyone else in the playoff mix - afc teams included - this year. Keeper | 76 16:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Seriously, that game was ridiculous. I expect more of the same from Arizona/Saints this weekend as well. My wish for this weekend? That all but the Ravens remember they need to play offense as well as defense. Ravens don't need to play defense. Agreed with your comments about Rodgers, he's been amazing to watch and is consistent. It' slike the Giants' 2nd loss to Philly where it was 45-38 or something like that. There's no way you should score that many points in an NFL game and not win. I knew though, no way Pack D would hold AZ, but didn't expect the turnover. Also with the way the game started who guessed it would go to OT? I was 1-4 last weekend, need to do better this one. Old Man QB better show up, but I read an interesting article on MVP analysis. If I can find it, I'll link. Talked about how while it might be Favre that made the Vikes 12-4, they weren't incrementally better than with TJax/Sage whereas Manning is only reason colts were 14-2, as we saw when they put in Painter v. Jests. Ugh. Dallas and Jests need to go down this weekend. Have a good day! StarM 13:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

PS: something for you here. Have a good day StarM 13:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Took me a minute to remember how to see deleted edits. 100% right. I'm too "gone" to care, other than to Sigh.  :-) Keeper | 76 00:14, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Same, time for watchlist purge. PS: Minnesota on the news here today and I wanted to smack the anchor who kept saying Minnnnn(almost like the spanish trilled r, but an N)eeeeeeeeesooooota. Like the name is as big as the state. Yet I still don't know why on earth they were talking about it because I was distracted by the name. Stay warm, TGI (almost) F StarM 00:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


Should I come back? DustiSPEAK!! 23:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Most of the interesting people have left. Or maybe it's just me.  :-) Keeper | 76 16:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey now. Tan | 39 17:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah, hell. Dusti's back :) DustiSPEAK!! 21:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
There are still a few of us around too, even if Keeper isn't... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:12, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering

If there was a way that I might be able to bring you out of retirement? Just for some more "training"? :) DustiSPEAK!! 20:48, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Good luck. Tan | 39 20:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Don't have the time or the heart for it, Dusti. I didn't retire though. Just left. :-) Keeper | 76 06:11, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Posting here to avoid the drama (man, did I ever think there'd be a day when it would be possibly to say that about AN/K?) – Dusti, I'd really strongly advise you to stay away from AFD until you're up to speed. Deletion policies have changed wildly in your absence, and I can sense by the tone that your incorrect NACs are starting seriously to piss the "AFD crowd" off. – iridescent 02:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Curiousity usually bests me, and I've poked around Dusti, including reading the recent ANI. I would recommend not closing AfDs at all, respectfully. It is simply not your bag, friend. There are many admins I'd give the same advice w/ similar track record as yours, however well-intentioned you are. It isn't about the "NAC v successful RfA" status of your account. Participate in them instead, be part of the discussion. Keeper | 76 21:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Dusti, I agree completely with the two people above. Keeper's suggestion to add to the discussion is a good one, IMHO. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 22:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
4thed, as the one who brought this to ANK in the first place. Take some time-a long time, participate in AfDs. See if your !votes reflect eventual consensus. Continuing on current course is likely just to lead to a block more than anything StarM 02:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Purple People Eaters

Wow, they are looking rather like a Super Bowl-deserving team right now. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 20:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Purple Jesus! <3 that last TD. Hate running up the score usually but against the Cowgirls. Sing it. Next week will be good game, no matter who wins StarM 21:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
ETA, from a friend who's there -- Minnesota PA playing Willie Nelson "Mama's Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Cowboys" as fans file out of stadium . SWEET StarM 21:18, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
My two least favorite teams are the Cowgirls and the Packers. Glad for today for you Star, I know how much you despise the Romo-rama drama boys. The only "scary" teams for me were the Eaglets and the Chargers. Check, and check. The Jests will crumble, and we can handle the Colts, I think we line up very very well. Just need to get out of the superdome intact, which is actually quite feasible. Vikings always find a way to lose though. I'm not completely abandoning my realism and bandwagoning yet. Keeper | 76 06:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Agreed—I'm half wondering if the NFC Championship is going to be the de facto Super Bowl. And just why is the Pro Bowl doing before the Super Bowl? —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 06:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I think the NFC Championship game is going to be an amazing game. Favre vs. Brees and then either one vs. Manning if the Colts (please!) dismantle the Jests. I think Favre and Brees are two very different style QBs and while this has the potential to be a shootout, I think both QBs could also be running for their lives. I think it will be a very good game, watch it end up 10-7 or something. Yes, I hate Romo the Drama Queen. He does what he does best in important games but I was so happy that Favre hit Shiancoe for that last TD, cry babies back to Dallas with their Pants on the Ground. I'm OK with whoever wins, Vikings - Favre gets one step closer to his ring and retirement. Saints - finally make the Super Bowl for first time. Just please let the Colts win, please. For the sake of my sanity or whatever is left of it. ETA: when someone asked me who I "liked" for the SUper Bowl I said I like Colts/Vikings - but what I thought would actually happen was Packers/Chargers. Just showed I can go with my heart.

Ed - PRo Bowl does seem a bit odd before the Super Bowl, but I think that will make it a little more relevant. People still thinking football rather than as a footnote. Still wish I'd be there to see it in person again. Keeper, you voted 100000000000000x times for all your Vikings, right? StarM 02:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I did notice that it's basically all the Vikes taking the team plane to Miami. If we win this weekend, there won't be anyone left from the NFC to actually represent at the pro-bowl. Just picked up Winfield too, that makes 10 purples. Keeper | 76 16:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
10 purple peoples? :-p I'm OK with either win tomorrow so long as the Colts kick the Jests' ass StarM 04:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Stupid Vikings. A creative, new way to lose. Instead of a run play to center the ball and kick the winning FG with time expiring, let's have the ol' man throw across his body to his blind side and get picked off and force OT and hand the game to the Aints. Creative. As I'll always maintain, the vikings always find a way to lose. Keeper | 76 04:12, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Favre throws costly, incredibly ill-advised INTs in situations where he should just take a sack. It's what he does. You can go to a new team, but you can't change who you are. I have had a soft spot for the Vikings ever since Onterrio Smith got caught at MSP in possession of a Whizzinator and urine powder. Or maybe it's been since the Lake Minnetonka cruise. Anyhow... MastCell Talk 04:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Of course, the Vikings wouldn't have made the playoffs without the guy. Live by the Favre, die by the Favre. Tan | 39 03:10, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Very true, Sage, TJ weren't going to do that. I hope he comes back. NFL will be a lot more of the No Fun League without him playing. Refuse to believe a word of what he says bwt now and opening day. See what he's wearing or not then. Happy with the Colts winning and shutting up the "OMG, we were gofted the playoffs and are destined" Jests fans who can't name anyone but Revis. No NFL Network, going to be a long off season :( And the deleted sigh above, more sigh worthy than before. It's at ANI. Again. Some people never learn StarM 13:19, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
This might sound strange, but I'm pullin for the Saints now. Gotta love an underdog story. Already tired of the "Will He Be Back or Won't he?" questions dominating my local sports pages. I've been on Wikipedia, from last summer, claiming that signing Faver was a bad move. I'll gladly admit to being wrong, he pulled a heck of a season out of his gray-haired arse and made for a nice little season for us purple-blooded fools. Oh, and I read ANI, TC. (haven't been to that page in a year I think, same old same old). Long tired sigh. Keeper | 76 05:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Breesus vs. the Purple Jesus! Saints played kinda dirty, but I can see the plus side of either winning. Pulling for Peyton and the ponies for the Giants pattern, but it will be a fun game, regardless. I'm already going through withdrawal. And yes ANI sign. People don't learn StarM 03:09, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Pro Bowl was real

McNabb shown as hero for completing one good pass, and Romo throws a pick. Just another NFC East game StarM 02:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Oops! Did I miss the pro bowl? I was out partying in Miami night (and day and night and day) clubs. How embarassing. Keeper | 76 04:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Punk, hope Diehl and Jason Peters get his whole share. StarM 02:54, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


"While the main requests for comment on the matter of biographies of living people undergoes reformatting to a more useable form you are invited to discuss the meaning of "Contentious" within the policy."

Is this some kind of joke or bad faith notice? What the hell is happening over there? - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what/where you're talking about. And, for the love of ice cream, don't blue link me. Keeper | 76 17:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
now see... that's just asking for it (and this too)... - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
lol as if keeper would ever involve himself in the DOTW. –xenotalk 20:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Old keeper would have. Now I'm just old. keeper. Thanks for the blue linek Adolphus. I should've known better. Walked right into that. For the love of chocolate strawberries, do not reply to this comment telling me how much you adore me and miss my wit... Keeper | 76 23:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

It's (almost) the most wonderful time of the year...

It's almost baseball season! You excited, Keep? Twinkies had an okay offseason: you guys got yourself a new shortstop and DH, kept the pitchers you needed to, and might even be able to lock up Mauer for an entire decade. Also, keep an eye on Francisco Liriano and Jarrod Washburn. Ahh, I can also smell the Astroturf, beer, and hot dogs already... GlassCobra 20:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Very excited, GC - yes! (Vikings, who?) The beer and the hot dogs are awaiting. However, no astroturf for us Twinks any more. Real live grass! Cold as hell grass, but alive! Aliiiivvvve!!!!! I'm likin' how the team is gellin so far on paper...including the "epithome" of class himself... Keeper | 76 23:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Haha, figured you could use to discuss something other than the Vikings. :) You guys have a great lineup taking form, do you think there will be competition in the division this year? I figure the Indians and Royals will pose about as much threat as they usually do (which is to say, not much), but how are you feeling about the White Sox and Tigers? GlassCobra 00:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Update: Looks like you've got a new second baseman as well! GlassCobra 04:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Great lineup, debut season for a new stadium. That's worked for other teams. It doesn't matter who Gardy puts on the field, he pulls the best out of the average every year. Go research division championships over the last decade. No team has more in the Central. Just need to get past the first round of playoffs, which recently has been the Yankees. Hate the Yanks, Star. H.a.t.e them. Keeper | 76 18:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Here is my list of predictions for the season; unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the Yanks and Twinkies will run into each other again in the first round of the playoffs. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about the other divisions besides the Central. Any thoughts on the NL, for example? I think the NL West will be particularly interesting. GlassCobra 21:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't pay too close attention to NL, at least not to start the season. Phillies look dangerous of course. I think the Giants are going to make a srs run for the West leaving the Dodgers in their Bay dust. No strong opinion on NL Central, other than it's always fun to watch the Cubs fall apart. AL East is depressingly talented, hopefully they underperform or Tampa makes another run at it. Feel bad for the B-Jays as always, should really move them to the AL Central and move Detroit to the East. My calls, if I must: Twins, of course (and not from fanaticism, from the very real talent on the team year after year), Yanks and Mariners. (yep, Mariners). Phillies, Giants, Cards. Wild cards Diamondbacks and a sleeper with no pressure or expectations for the AL wild: Royals. (not R-sox, they don't have it this year). Central is capable of pulling 2 into the postseason, as much as AL Easters seem to think it will always be RSx/yanks. Not completely unrealistic, it happened recently even (Detroit was wild, Twins won division, 05 or 06 - 06 I think...) God, I love baseball. Keeper | 76 03:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
The Red Sox "don't have it this year," and the Royals as the AL wild card? Are we watching the same sport? :P The Red Sox signed a new center fielder, third baseman, shortstop, and starting pitcher; the Royals have done next to nothing. The Sox have arguably the meanest rotation in all of baseball (yes, including the Yanks), the Royals have Zack Greinke and a bunch of scrubs. While I still think the Yanks' heavy offense will carry them to the AL East crown again this year, the Red Sox will be hard on their tail all year, and should be a lock for the wild card. Sorry to disagree, Keep, but the Royals have as much chance as a snowball in hell. If you check that link though, you'll see that I actually concur with you about the Mariners; their 1-2-3 spots in their rotation are going to be great and they've signed other new people as well. Combined with the weakening of the Angels, I think they've got the AL West by a long shot. Actually, I think the Mariners had one of the better offseasons in baseball.. right up there with the Twinkies, the Red Sox, and the Nationals. GlassCobra 23:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
The Royals made virtually no changes, but they had small successes all year last year (and also some of the same perennial troubles). They are building in confidence. I'm not saying the Royals will be a dynasty of any sort, just that they're gonna win enough games this year to make postseason. The will gel as a team, they've played together for a couple of years and they are extremely well coached (Trey Hillman reminds me of Gardenhire a ton). Consistency wins baseball games. I stand by my pick, and call it a "sleeper" for a reason. Keeper | 76 15:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


Someone makes a valid point about civility on Wikipedia and is met with a bunch of snickering, adolescent backslapping and you expect anything but disgust? Unbelievable. RxS (talk) 05:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

What's unbelievable is your prim ZOMG SHOCKED astonishment. Clearly we didn't think the point about civility was valid. Tan | 39 05:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
(e/c re to Rx) Good grief, I'm going to bed. The irony and hypocrisy abounds from both sides, true, with the playground namecalling, myself included. Guilty. I have no beef with you, RxS. I have a beef with trigger happy admins that thump people on their heads with civility sticks loaded with nauseating pompousness and grandiosity. Your personal definition of a "valid point about civility" is subjective and not shared by everyone in this community. I personally find Chillum's and TenofalTrades actions/comments much more incivil than Malleus' (usually accurate) drive-by commentary Keeper | 76 05:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
You don't agree with someone, you get to act like a spoiled 12 year old? Got'cha. And I'm not sure your right makes right works out very well....if I think I'm right about something I act act like whatever douchbag I want? RxS (talk) 05:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Heh. I'm a "douchebag" (sic). Nice little bit of indirect insult. True, true. I'm a douchebag. I said I'm "guilty" right? I admitted my level of ironicalness, right? Why are you trying to entice me into something? Are you gonna block me for disagreeing with you? Keeper | 76 05:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Both of you, just stop replying. Goodness, it's like high school x 2... —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 05:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Am I supposed to reply to this or not? Now I'm confused.... :-) Keeper | 76 05:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not trying to entice you into anything, you responded to me at AN/I and by the time I saw it the section was closed so I responded here. Not sure why you'd think I'd block you (or anyone) for disagreeing so I'll assume that it's just rhetoric. My 2nd comment was aimed at Tan just as much as it was at you. But it doesn't matter. RxS (talk) 05:34, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Already bygones, dude. I'm all about the rhetoric. If only all admins would see most bullshit left on usertalkpages as rhetoric, this place would be so much fucking easier to build up as an encyclopedic resource. But no, we need the admin peacocks deciding that someone (read: Malleus) was a "meanie" to someone else along the way, and blocks him. I retired over a year ago because admins/wonks are getting in the way, with few exceptions, to this place actually becoming an accurate resource instead of just an overly vandalized experiment in open-editing. Do you want a challenge, RxS? Review Malleus' mainspace contribs. Filter out the usertalk. He is undoubtedly One of the Best, since the inception of Wikipedia. Accurate, sourced, and most importantly, readable entries come from Malleus. Is he a prick? Sure. So what? Who the fuck reads talk pages and wikipedia: pages other than wonks? He pisses me off (piss in the American sense) with his commentary on talk pages and user talk. So the fuck what. He is a contributor. 99.9% of wikipedia's readers never click on "talk" on any page. They don't give a fuck who wrote it, they simply need to trust it. Malleus, and thousands of others, are making this site readable, accessible, and reliable. More than I will ever be able to accomplish, even if I actually tried. Once and a while, he tells someone to fuck themself or calls them a waste of space. In the grand scheme of things, I'll go down in flames supporting Malleus et all before I throw some stupid and arbitrary "rule" at him about his behavior. Before you respond with "there are good contributors that aren't so incivil" trite response at me, let me tell you that I agree. There are myriad editors that contribute as much as Malleus without the grief. Moot. Malleus makes this place better, and his shite is to be tolerated, IMO, in order to get his equal effort to building this resource called Wikipedia. I'm sleeping soon, goodnight RxS. Keeper | 76 05:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
No need to review his contribs, they're great no argument. I also don't disagree that there's a lot of admins that are making life difficult for mainline editors. But, I continue to insist that how people talk to each other (and more importantly) disagree with each other has a critical place in Wikipedia's long term success. And when someone consistently gets away with rude and incivil behavior it undermines the whole culture of interaction. That has the potential of doing far more damage than the constant level of good editing someone might do. We need a constant stream of incoming editors, who do look at talk pages. I know this is cliche, but we have hundreds, thousands of good editors making hundreds of thousands of edits. The loss of one good...great editor won't make any difference to speak of. But the damage of a single long term "prick" can undo all that good. And I don't mean to diminish anyone's effort here, but I think it's needs to be recognized that no one is irreplaceable but a single editor can cause a lot of I don't know...RxS (talk) 06:07, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
So, if I can surmise....we agree in our disagreement?  :-) To expand, let's look at what acutally happens on Wikipedia. I implore you to find one, even one comment of Malleus (or fill in the blank with any other incorrigible), where Malleus is discouraging, disrespectful, or derogatory to a newer editor or non-admin. Spoiler alert: you won't find it. Malleus has a problem with "editors" that have adorned a robe of "civility" for the "sake of Wikipedia's future". Who decided that this encylopedia is only going to be successful if everyone is uber-nice to each other? Sure, that would make it really lovely and cotton-candy wonderful. But who cares, really? The point is that it is accurate, and most readers don't really care how it is accurate, just that it is. My first interactions with Malleus were also of the "WTF" sense, wondering why he was such a "douchebag". I've learned that he, more than most normal editors, really really wants this website to represent the utmost of accuracy of information. And he tells people to fuck off that get in the way of that. I'll unblock him myself, to the jeopardization of my own ill-deserved "tools", if need be. Keeper | 76 06:18, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
But it's not such a granular thing as a single interaction biting a newbie, it's a cultural thing. One editor gets away with telling someone to fuck off, then someone defends it and joins in. Then there's 3 then 4, at some point it becomes an acepted way of disagreeing with each other. It's at that point that it becomes an exclusive place rather than an inclusive place. Someone wanders in and sees us all barking at each other and slowly backs out. Sure, plenty of people don't mind that, but plenty do mind it and would choose not to get involved. So the questions is why do we pay that price just so we can be rude to each other when we feel like it? Why go into it knowing that we're putting up a barrier to a certain amount of new editors? RxS (talk) 06:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I honestly don't care who tells who what to fuck. I want a better, more accurate encyclopedia. Can it be built faster without all the "fuck off"s? I don't know. We agree in our disagreement. If Malleus was gone, would this website, in general, be more pleasant? Perhaps. But at what cost? He's a hell of a writer, and I'd rather (for the reader's sake) have a really pissy talkpage in order to have a really accurate mainpage. I'd dismantle the teenage admin troupe in a heartbeat in order to keep Malleus. What I do know, and what I'll continue to do because of what I know, is defend those that (regardless of personal hygiene or respectfulness towards other "editors") have an uncanny way through talent, dedication, and savvy, improve this website, even if at the sake of the pleasantness of the "environment" of the editors. Check my log of blocked users, as an admin, available here. I don't have much capacity for assness. I'm not afraid to block. If someone says "fuck you" without context, I'll block, and then shortly after, delete whatever they wrote. But not Malleus, et al. Keeper | 76 06:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree, but...I see that "I personally don't care what people say" a lot. That misses the point. It's not what you or I can tolerate, it's what, generally, most people can tolerate. Anyway, you know I hate to just be blunt like this, but if he leaves we lose almost nothing in proportion to the actual amount of editing that goes on here. None of this is aimed at the reader, except that the reader needs a healthy editing environment (that they may never even see) to ensure a better, more accurate encyclopedia. We do agree on the teenage admin troupe you speak of so we have that going for us, though the high profile immaturity not limited to admins. RxS (talk) 06:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Glad we can agree on something (unruly teenagers), admin or not.  :-). Go and see what Malleus actually does here. You are right, from a "percentage" standpoint simply because of the sheer magnitude of this site, he is a drop in the bucket. But for the topics that he chooses to invest in, he is invaluable. Waste of space comments or not. Keeper | 76 07:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────(edit conflict) Wow, this is one of those rare but interesting conversations where you find yourself fully agreeing with all of the points made by both sides. Anyway... so the central question we need to answer is "how many quality contributions must one make before they are immune to blocking from some facets of the civility policy?" RxS, you'd say that contribs don't matter, while Keeper would say that it depends on the person. I think that I would put forth what is basically a combination of your viewpoints; I think that contribs do matter, because someone who is improving the encyclopedia (what we are supposed to be doing) to a great extent has earned a lot of leniency. In my view, to give two examples, MF wouldn't be blocked at the moment, while Giano would; the former may be sarcastic and just plain bullheaded at times, but he has many quality contribs (if I had a dollar for every time I saw the words "after a copyedit from Malleus...") and makes some very relevant and needfully blunt statements when needed, something many others are afraid to or won't do. Giano (at least from what I've seen), also has many quality contribs, but the only things I have seen from him on ANI and places is the holding of grudges and a startling ability to get on another's nerves (correct me if I'm wrong in this assessment?) —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 07:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Play balll...

well spring training counts, right? I've seen neither game so far, but it was nice for Yankees to walk off to start the season. As for me, time for what's turned into a monthly check in, just saying hello to whoever is still floating around, and AN/K is a must. Is it too soon to count the hours until Opening Day? StarM 02:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Too funny that I logged in an hour after you - I haven't edited in at least a week or so. Careful, people will start to think we're sockin' :-). I'm totally amped up for baseball. Twins are gonna win some games, got a new stadium to show off to the visiting teams. I'm a bit worried about the loss of the home dome advantage we've enjoyed for 2+ decades, it's the only possible setback in the mix for an otherwise solid team - our home field is foreign to the home team. Our home record will determine our fate (we've always been mediocre/slightly above average on the road and excellent at home). I say "we" like I'm on the team. I put the -atic in fanatic :-) Hope you are well , Miss M...Keeper | 76 03:50, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Oops, never mind about the log in times - I guess it's a day + one hour. Gotta cut back on the adult beverages...Keeper | 76 03:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
so the Twinkies have a higher payroll than the Dodgers? Wow. Watching a game and just heard that. Wow. A Stadium with no foul territory? Mauer going to hit about .800 or so. I'll be in Florida later this month. Thought about a game but the Orioles moved from FLL and I'm not about to drive an hour to find a game. I'll pass, thanks, but I'm itching for baseball. I ha d afriend who did his thesis on the I/We in sports fans, pretty fun reading. HOpe all is well on Planet Keeper StarM 20:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Didn't know that about the payroll - excellent. I'm exceedinly curious about your RL, and all your travel. I could only be so lucky to be able to go the places you seem to be able to go. No worries, I'm not about to investigate or anything, just a bit jealous of what seems to be a kicka** job or an unlimited amount of $$ to be able to see the things you see, TC/SM. Things are well on my planet. Loving my work right now, wish I could share more in such a public place.....things are all good. I'm psyched for twins baseball, nothing new there. Keep you eye out for the Royals; I'm more nervous about them than any other AL central team, including the Tigrettes, no matter how much they spend... Keeper | 76 02:48, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I'm jealous too. :) Zack Greinke is one hell of a pitcher...if he gets help, the Royals are going to upset quite a few teams this season. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 03:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Right on, Ed. I'm a bit terrified that we (Twins) are going to face them 19 or so times this year. Gasp. Keeper | 76 05:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── One of my favorites got rid of all of the players I liked, so it's down to one. Not sure what I'd like more; the Royals 19 times or the Yankees/Blue Jays/Devil Ray gauntlet. :P Count your blessings, the Indians are gonna suck and the WSox and Tiggers are only going to be mediocre. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 05:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

....which is why I predicted months ago that the wild card for the AL is coming out of the central. Twins and Royals. Yankees (unless I can get my Voodoo doll working), and the Mariners. Callin' it. Keeper | 76 05:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Well, okay, half-lie. Pronk and the pretty boy are still there, at least. I'm bookmarking this and calling you out when the Mariners don't make it. Beautiful pitching doesn't make up for terrible hitting. Evidence: 2008 Royals. ;-) —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 05:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Outdenting for clarity and because the new paths confuse the bejeesus out of me. Wow, ANK got busy in the last 24 hours. Lucky I still had this tab open. I'd be happy to go into further detail, but I have a certain former user and probably still current and socking user making my life a living hell so no details on the job from me. Florida is garden variety vacation. Nepal later this year if that happens is another story. I have no kidlets, so that explains some of the time/disposable income but I watch Househunters and the like on HGTV and wish I lived somewhere but NYC for lower cost of living. I can't watch spring training, I've tried and it just doesn't work for me. Yankees got shellacked yesterday but BFD, AJ looked good and they didn't hit. There are worse things in the world. Still irked they didn't re-sign Matsui and Damon. Always enjoyed being fan of team that wasn't afraid to spend to win. I don't like this new-found frugality and don't want Carl Crawford. Agree on Greinke, have KC made any other moves this off season? Baseball is a crazy crazy world. StarM 19:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it. Woogee (talk) 07:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

thank you for your grace. I'm going back into "retirement", other than to discuss baseball and other chatty topics with wiki-friends. You don't happen to be a baseball fan, eh? Keeper | 76 07:47, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I am *very much* a baseball fan. Giants and A's, in particular. Woogee (talk) 20:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Benny Greb

Benny Greb is very famous in the drumming community as a clinician, much like clinicians Thomas Lang, Derek Roddy, and Virgil Donati, who have their own articles. He's even on Drummerworld, which only features articles on notable drummers. Can you bring his entry back from the dead?

His Drummerworld page: [48]

PÆonU (talk) 10:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi PÆonU, I don't know much about drumming (other than you need sticks for it). I'm not familiar with drummerworld either, but the site strikes me as one guy's "blog" about drumming (again, I'm no expert though to know the notability of his list that he's created). I have no problem undeleting and userfying the article for you to work on (the deleted version was deleted nearly 2 years ago and is fairly spammy. You might be better served just starting over? Let me know if you want me to userfied what's there. Cheers, Keeper | 76 02:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm really busy this month, so it's going to take me some time to work on it. Can you userfy it for a day so I can copy-paste it into Word and slowly work on it? PÆonU (talk) 04:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
It's userfied, located at User:PÆonU/Benny Greb. Have fun. Keeper | 76 04:55, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I got around to it and have done most of the work necessary to get the article going. I just have to find some more information about him, as the page is mainly an equipment list. Do you think it's ready to go back on Wikipedia yet, or does it still need more work before going public, where others can edit it? PÆonU (talk) 12:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Good thing you're a good admin. Tan | 39 14:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

My bad, man. I thought you were ignoring me because you were still pissed off at me over the Lambert fiasco. That article was impossible to write, so I gave up after a week and deleted the Word file LOL. Anyways, I apologize for that comment. PÆonU (talk) 22:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Nah, you're right Pee(on you). Tan is a total jerk. In fact, I absolutely totally hate his guts, which is why I forced him into adminship :-) Maybe I subconsciously wanted him to suffer. Keeper | 76 04:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

"This looks fun"

Where have you been all my life, anyway? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Right Here Waiting, baby. Keeper | 76 02:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually you've talked me down off a ledge and de-escalated a teacupfullofkeepershitstorm at least once, you and your damn voice of reason :-) Keeper | 76 02:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, gosh, did you have to send me to a memory of that mess? First, a great song, then Moni explodes my head with laughter, end ending with that? I should go to sleep or go play with some toys. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Dropping in to say...

"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 1,860 seconds may not appear in this list. " Enigmamsg 04:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

"Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 7,103 seconds may not appear in this list. " Enigmamsg 05:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


Magnet has been hit three times by three different people, one in GA, Phil Magill (what a stupid name) in Manchester, and someone with Roadrunner. Can you protect the article from new users until the heat dies down? Also, how do you trace RoadRunner IP's? Both the vandal's and my IP say Herdon, VA. Does RoadRunner use some type of impenetrable proxy system? PÆonU (talk) 06:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done and blocked the latest IP. Enigmamsg 15:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

The Subconscious

This week, I noticed two articles with multiple mentions of the subconscious, which does not exist. I haven't done anything with bots, so I'm unsure whether it's possible to create a bot that changes the word subconscious to unconscious, the correct term. Is it possible and if so, do you know of any other users who have experience creating bots? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PÆonU (talkcontribs) 04:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't take this the wrong way, but this strikes me as a simply bizarre post. I don't have experience with bots, on any level of conconsciousness. Keeper | 76 04:52, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
It's a very incorrect term that many people, including Freud, absolutely despise. When people read "subconscious" on the internet, it only spreads a term that should have died a long time ago. It's like using the word "mongoloid" instead of "down syndrome" in a ton of entries. I was thinking that since there's a bot that corrects unsigned comments, it would be possible to correct the use of "subconscious." I guess I'll have to look around for some information on bots. Thanks for the help, anyways. PÆonU (talk) 06:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Using a bot simply to substitute one word for another as you describe strikes me as a supremely poorly thought-out idea. You could be completely ignoring what the sources say, and perhaps even change direct quotes inadvertly. No, you should instead make the changes one by one, paying attention to whether or not it makes sense to make the change in each instance. LadyofShalott 04:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I gave up on the idea shortly after posting that. The only way to avoid damaging articles is to do it one by one. PÆonU (talk) 14:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


Finally. Way to go, Pohlads! Keeper | 76 04:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

he almost looks like he's smiling. 7 days until baseball. Real baseball. StarM 21:42, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm waiting with baited breath :) —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 02:06, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
"Bated breath". Tan | 39 14:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
"Bay dead breath". (wait, what's the game? ) Go Twins! Keeper | 76 03:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Really Tan? That was a terrible pun. :P (natit citsejamklat) dE 16:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

It's only appropriate that the archdiocese of Boston is having a fit over Opening Night being on Easter Sunday. Baseball is my religion and the Yankees are my god. Ed, you a Sox fan? I forget, I know there's one around these parts. Tan. No baseball for you, right? Only remember your poor lions :( 20 days to the draft. Yay StarM 23:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Tan likes the Toothless Tigers, if I remember correctly. Poor guy. Funny that Easter is off limits for sports. Someone should tell the NFL to lay off Thanksgiving, and the NBA to leave Christmas alone too. Seriously lame. I'm thinking the "Church" might have more important things to worry about right now, eh? Keeper | 76 03:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Star, yeah I'm a Red Sox fan. Tan likes the Lions and Tigers? (oh my) Bah, Michigan just me, I live there. :P Keeper, I agree. This is shaping up into something even bigger—the (then-future) Pope knew of molestation charge for twelve years? Sick, just sick. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 03:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Congrats on opening night, Ed. Was a good series. Gotta love Joe West running at the mouth. Should be interesting the next series he calls. The others wanting the Sox and Yankees out of the AL East is equally moronic. "We want to be mediocre.. and win.' Meh. I don't buy the argument that they can't afford it because other than the Orioles, Blue Jays have won and Tampa came close. Not like they can't. Don't want to play with the big boys, got to AAA StarM 00:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Dusti's RfA

Will you be breaking your user talk page-only break to comment here? I'd be very interested in your opinions, and as you are mentioned prominently, your vetting and thoughts would likely be very relevant and much appreciated by all involved. Thanks! GlassCobra 00:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Huh. Sorry I missed this, GC - I've taken a looksee, but if you must know, I would have likely abstained from commenting whether I found it freshly opened, or on it's way the way it went, simply because I have not kept up with anyone's editing other than a bit of Malleus stalking. (he's irresistible). Keeper | 76 03:19, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Deletion Review - Human Design System

Another editor has bought this to deletion review but doesn't seem to have informed you. -- (talk) 15:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, if it doesn't seem memorable that's because it was deleted a couple of years back. -- (talk) 16:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I barely remember what I had for breakfast this morning, let alone something I closed two years ago. Thanks for the notice, nonetheless, 82.7. Cheers, Keeper | 76 00:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


Just watched the Twins score the first two runs at Target Field in the first inning against Jon Lester. Enigmamsg 20:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Watched it too :-). And the rest of the runs too. Kubes rocks. Glad I've been able to get out to the field already, it's an absolute gem of a park, and that's not just fan bias. Keeper | 76 04:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
thank you for destroying the Dead Sox :-) I'm not crazy enough to think 4-8 is out, but it's a nice anti parallel, or whatever the word is, to NYY 9-3. Went to the stadium today, gorgeous day. Old stadium just hurts though :( StarM 00:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Twinkies are 11-4, Liriano's looking strong, Punto will be back in a couple days... holy cow. Look out, AL. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 04:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Sunday Night Baseball

that involves none of our teams - at least I don't think so. Still a good reason to say hello. Nice to see us both doing well. Went to my first game of the season vs. Texas. Yankees have issues but looking good. Going to be a fun season. How's all in Keeper land? ETA: 100 mainspace contribs takes me back to last July. Wow. StarM 02:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Ouch, my last 100 goes back to ... April 24, 2010. :) Red Sox are not doing so hot... I didn't get any happier when I heard an ESPN anchor last week say that the only Sox starter with an ERA of under 5 is Clay Buchholz. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 03:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Got you both beat. January 2009. Of course, I probably only have a total of 150 mainspace edits anway :-) Twins just swept up the Tigrettes, life is good in the upper midwest, Baltimore in town, favored to sweep them as well (who hasn't though? Oh, wait. That's right, the RedSucks got swept, didn't they? 3 of Baltimores seven wins?? In a sweep of the bloods?) Lol, Ed :-) Keeper | 76 19:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
<dangerous tone>SHUT IT, Keeper. ;) Ugh "RedSucks" is right. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 02:21, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Ed, this is going to be an interesting series. I think the announcers' heads exploded when *gasp* Hughes and Beckett gave up a hit. A friend put Beckett sentiment very well from POV of Yankees fans "Josh Beckett is a friggin' prick. He's also very good, which makes him even more annoying". I think I have to agree. Interesting start to both teams' seasons, which will likely have no baring on how they finish. Happy weekend to you both StarM 00:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Not a fan at all of Beckett's. In fact, I don't like any of the men in red and gray, except Pedroia. Hot damn, that kid is annoyingly cocky. Gotta respect his Short Man Syndrome mad skillz. He's like David Eckstein, only talented. Hate playing him, except in fantasy leagues... Keeper | 76 02:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

it's the "World Series"

or at least as far as you and I are concerned. :-) Beckett is a cocky fuck, agreed. Loved his melt down last week. Priceless. Don't have him on my fantasy teams, but I have a couple of your Twins. Oh noes. Derek Jeter having issues. He must be done. Should be a fun series. Twinkies have a new uniform? Looks nice. What the fuck. Hate the new interface. / random comments StarM 23:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Why did all my buttons move? Oh, and stupid yankees. Gotta love Jason Kubel though. Batting like .200, plus a grandslam off Rivera? First blown save in 2 years? First grandslam in a decade off Mo? Only in baseball.  :-) Keeper | 76 14:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
first blown save in two years? No way. He blew a bunch last year. Sky is falling here with gasp, losses, but I can't panic. It's may. Looking forward to seeing (on TV) new stadium next week. My trip this year is Indy for the Manning Bowl. So that's my mid west foray for the time being. Still hate new interface. StarM 02:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I've toyed around with getting tix for the yank series, but prices are too high (and it's sold out as every game so far at the new field has been), and I have every game televised between Fox Sports North and MLB network. Glad I got to go at least once, it's a great field. I switched back to the old interface. Call me a dinosaur, but it ain't broke, therefore. Also, meant first blown save at Yankee stadium - hadn't done that since 2007, if I read correctly (had 51 in a row or something like that, tied for the ML record, making it all the more beautiful that it could've been his record all to his own, but now he has to share it, although he'll likely end up with the rest of the save records). Keeper | 76 04:20, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

How do you change it back? Don't know why I bother, this is the only page I visit. Seriously, my contribs are ridiculous. Speaking of ridiculous - Kubel is more of a Yankee killer than the M & M boys. Crazy. You'll be happy that Mauer is on my list of the about 5 ppl in MLB I'd be TRULY surprised if they took anything: Mo, Mauer, Ichiro Matsui and I forget the 5th Yes, Mo is the only NYY who'd surprise me. Low rent city, can't even control the weather and have to suspend a game. Harumph. :-p Stadium looks nice but I miss the baggies with balls hit off the wall. It's just not the same without the baggie dome. Have a good long weekend. StarM 03:13, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

The new interface gave me an option to "revert" to the old view, I had to answer (or skip) some survey questions, and then it was back to the old. I'm old and rutted in my ways. Read below for the synopsis of Tan's exit...Keeper | 76 23:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


Why does anyone even bother? --Endlessdan and his problem 13:16, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

You make an excellent rhetorical point. Hope you're doing well, Jersey. Keeper | 76 14:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
All is well on Jersey shore, Minny. --Endlessdan and his problem 16:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

To talk about baseball and football of course. Only page I check when I log in is here and my talk. StarM 02:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I only check here, and Malleus. That's a page I just can't seem to look away from. Sorry to here about Tan's bold exit. Wouldn't have caught that beaut had I not been watching Malleus' page... Keeper | 76 04:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Aww damn, Tan is gone? I haven't kept up on FB either. Suppose I need to catch up StarM 03:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
So apparently, Tan told it like he saw it as he usually does, and from what I have been able to find and read, it was entirely deserved/warranted/and community appreciated that Tan spoke his mind. Some admin doorknob then came in and blocked Tan, playing civility patrol, the proverbial "here, this gasoline should help cool your fire" tactic. Tan proceeded to unblock himself (admin taboo) and then block the blocker. L - O - L. Good for you, Tan! I completely endorse Tan's actions against the stupidity of this website, and I hope he's reading this, he is/was one of the more sane admins and editors around that I had the pleasure of crossing paths with. Keeper | 76 23:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Let's go Twinkies

please destroy the Muts. Fans are getting insufferable. They think two wins makes a season. Hope all is well in Keeperville. And yes, I did log in just to say hello. StarM 02:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

We didn't do much, unfortunately. We've historically been superb in interleague play, got a bad draw this year of all very good teams while AL Central foes were playing Pirates, Dbacks, Nats...we at least manhandled Santana though. Gotta love Pavano right now, 'stache and all. Hope things are well with you too! Keeper | 76 13:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
and you couldn't even handle the Rays. What good are you?! :-p Congrats on Lee, if the rumors are tue. At least you kept him from the Muts and Sox - and we don't have to face him this week. Pavano's stache is less skeevy than Giambi's. All is well here. Busy as all hell, but well. You? StarM 02:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, the Twins slumped into the allstar game. Much better than slumping right out of the playoffs at the end of the season (*cough* tigers *cough*). Astounded that Lee went to the BK-rangers, for money reasons and for divisional reasons. Didn't see that coming. I think the Twinks have the best fielded team, if only our starting pitchers can pull their proverbial heads outta dark places. Chicago always streaks, and they'll fall apart. Detroit too. Consistency always prevails, a la Twins. We best figure out how to win on the road though, what with the National league finally pulling out an allstar win. I'm predicting a 1991 rematch, Twins win in six, down in Atlanta. Keeper | 76 16:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Makes about as much sense as McDweeb to the Redskins. Which is to say, none. I agree with yu on part of 1991, Atlanta is looking good. Time to go find Kent Hrbek and RIP Chili Davis? NYY will be OK even with Andy's injury if AJ gets his head out of his ass. Chicago's issue is Bobby Jenks. Detroit seems to be limping out of the break from what I've seen. I'm about ready for football if for no other reason than weather. Too hazy hot and humid. Hope all well in Keeperville StarM 03:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


I noticed that you participated in a previous RFC at Wikipedia talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions. I was wondering if you might share your opinion here: RFC: Should Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts) be merged with Wikipedia:Notability (events) and Wikipedia:Notability (people)? Thanks! Location (talk) 19:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

No thanks. Best, Keeper | 76 16:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


17-0? Is that Twins/Royals or Vikings/Chiefs? INSANE! StarM 02:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, 19-0, ahem. And then 11-2. 72 hits in the last 4 games. I'm madly in love with Delmon Young and Danny Valencia right now. Morneau who? Keeper | 76 00:32, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Where have you been? KS bombed! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:56, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Help a guy out here - KS? Keeper | 76 02:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Can your bats wake up vs. Tampa please? Yankees need help. DOn't get Berkman, Kearns moves. Kerry Wood especially. Delmon Young is fantasy gold. StarM 03:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Very frustrated with Tampa. I enjoy watching them win, right up until they play the twins, at which point I expect them to lay down and roll over. Baker had a nice night tonight, but you'd think we could get him a run or two...Keeper | 76 02:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and thank you sincerely for not mentioning Favre during baseball season. You know me well :-) Keeper | 76 02:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


and not mentioning he who shall not be named. Nice 4 game lead. Thome another old man who's more never say die. Crazy. My picks for post season in AL: Yankees, Boston, Twinkies and Rangers. NL I'm not sure. Going to be an interesting fall. Hope all well in Keeper land StarM 04:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

So tired of seeing all the local news media drooling over this like it's actually a story. I recall last year commenting that I thought it was a huge mistake to latch onto his bandwagon, and was pleasantly surprised (and ate a lot of crow with my RL friends) to see him succeed. I won't comment about the wisdom of bringing in a 41yr old dinosaur. I hope he does well. The first game (against the Saints) will dictate my feelings about the season and his ability to complete a season with a bum ankle and shoulder. But anywho, it's friggin August. How bout those Twins!!?!?! Thome leading the team in homeruns, with a third of the at-bats. Gotta love a walk-off against an old team and rival... heh. Keeper | 76 02:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
So I had no idea who Valencia was when you mentioned him previously, but I just watched a very nice walk off hit on MLB Network. Your Twinkies are impressing me. Oh and I just read a fun book called "Twinie, Deconstructed". Good reading if you're at all into food or nutrition. Happy with Yankees' play too. ARoid who? Tex has finally woken up. I admit, antsy for football too. I get random wiki stuff in my inbox and I'm half tempted to just turn off my e-mail account if I remember how to do that. I just have no interest besides coming here to chit chat. Couple games in the last couple weeks . Craziness? Mets had a metal lunchbox giveaway in a bad season. Lunacy, that one. Still hopin to get out to Target Field next year I guess. Big sports field trip this year is Manning Bowl. Should be fun. Hope all is well StarM 03:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


I'm still in your funnies section. Now that's funny.--Endlessdan (talk) 20:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Seeing as I haven't edited that page in 2 years...not much for competition :-). Or, perhaps there just hasn't been anything remotely funny happening around here since '08. How you been, Jersey? How in the world aren't you banned from this place yet? Keeper | 76 00:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
How? By keeping my activity level around here sparce... like taking over two months to reply to people. That's how! --Endlessdan (talk) 20:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thome is INSANE

just saw that one he launched tonight in extra innings. WOW. StarM 04:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

'bout time we benefit from his swing, as he absolutely decimated the twins for the majority of the 90s when in Cleveland during their good run. I honestly think he should win comeback player of the year. Simply amazing. 8 games up on the blank-sox. Just took the first two by scores of 9-3. It is a really good time to be a Twins fan. Yankees fans should fret, we've finally put together a full arsenal - starting pitching, hitting, defense, and relief pitching, all very high ranked and consistent, consistent, consistent. No weak spots, no glaring holes. It is the Twins year, and I'm allowing myself to dream - risking the heartbreak, all or nothing. It Must be the Twins this year. I'm hoping you'll switch from being a yanks fan, if only for the next 2 months. Cheer for the Twins, it's so much more gratifying! The stripes have won enough, they don't need you, it's time to pick the underdog, just this once? You don't have to tell any of your RL peeps, just do it for Keeps :-) Keeper | 76 15:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
yes but I think you have too many vowels. Need a few more Kent Hrbeks. Twins are going to be interesting in this post season, I'll give it that. I'm still hoping for a Tampa free-fall since a RedSox-less post season just seems odd. StarM 18:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Kudos to the Twinkies

The Twins lost their All-Star closer to Tommy John surgery in March. They lost their MVP candidate first baseman to a concussion in July. Their reigning MVP catcher's OPS is down 150 points from a year ago. Going in and along the way there was much reason to doubt. In the end they become the first team to clinch. Congratulations 2010 Minnesota Twins, you defied expectations and adversity. This moment is yours. yoinked from here but very true. Congrats and kudos. Their clinching, which I watched on MLB Network, inspired me to log in. How low volume we've both been - the Mauer extension still hasn't archived. Oops see I have a message above to answer. So glad for the WYSIWYG editor, as I totally forgot wiki markup StarM 17:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

What a wonderful evening I had last night, staying up late to watch the final collapse of the palehose on the west coast, and then staying up to watch my boys dump champagne on each other. Time to get out the parkas and mukluks, folks, there's a chance of snow in the playoffs this year!!!. What a great season, I'm on cloud nine, although with the team that was assembled this year, and the superiority of the farm system for the twins, there is never a doubt and always a chance. I'm still hoping for best AL record, hoping the yanks/rays keep each other down in the win column. Danny Frickin Valencia. Old man Thome. Delmon Young finally living to his potential. Morneau who? Nathan what? Let's go Cuddy and Capps! Also, agree it's strange still to see my talkpage unarchived since June. What's WYSIWYG? Keeper | 76 05:03, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
'Grats Keeper, live it up. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Lovin life, Ed. If I remember correctly, you're a bloodsox fan? Sorry 'bout all the injuries, they never had a chance. Oh, and I totally figured out what WYSIWYG means. Keeper | 76 19:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

WYSIWYG - What you see is what you get. No need to remember number of apostrophes and brackets. And look. I actually edited a page. Of course it was about sports. FWIW my AL pick is the Rangers. Rays go down to Rangers, Rangers beat NYY or Twins and advance to WS. Hoping for Braves to make it for Bobby StarM 03:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I predicted right here on this very page a 1991 rematch back in April or May (don't want to bother finding a link to my archives, but it's there somewhere). Hoping the braves pull it off today too, a squeaky tight chance at the wild card. And, seriously? Rangers??? You're picking someone other than the yanks, and you pick the Rangers? Not the twins? Ouch. Keeper | 76 15:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
oops so I forgot I told you my AL predictions already. I'm a realist, and Yankees going nowhere this year. Sunday was inane but exactly why the wild card was created. Fun trivia for you or other stalkers. There are only four active players who have never played for the Yankees but have 65 post season appearances. Can you name? StarM 17:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
I couldn't even begin to guess, but 65 is a big number. You mean 65 actual games played, any level of post season play? Hmm. There might actually be a Twin in that - Michael Cuddyer perhaps, he's been to Twins postseason ubertimes, although we've never made it very far. Possibly a Philly or two? Now it's bugging me. Dammit. Keeper | 76 19:53, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Whoa, no way Cuddyer is in there. Losing in the first round a few times doesn't come close to 65 games. Plus Cuddyer isn't even that old. I'm going to go with veterans who have been on some good teams. Manny Ramirez went to the playoffs with Cleveland and Boston of course and he has to have a good amount of games by now. He even went to the NLCS with the Dodgers last year. How about Chipper Jones? He made the playoffs a bunch of times with Atlanta. Enigmamsg 00:44, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Ding Ding for the Mystery Man. Manny and Chipper are two. Oddly I didn't get Manny but I knew Chipper and Andruw off the bat because I was thinking of the Braves' run. Hard part was active eliminating the pitchers and a number of the players. Other one was Manny teammate. Big Papi. I was surprised Mauer not on the list since it seems Twinkies always in it but I forget he's "only" been around since '04. Active eliminates Kirby, who was closest Twinkie I think. No comment on anything else until series is over. 2004 destroys confidence/hope. StarM 04:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Road teams 5-0 in AL playoffs. RE: Mauer Yeah, he's young. I remember when Minnesota drafted him out of high school over Mark Prior. They didn't think they'd be able to sign Prior, but it worked out anyway. The Twins have been to the playoffs, but part of accumulating a lot of games is more than just making it. The division series is best of 5, while the LCS and WS are best of 7. The last time Minnesota made it past the ALDS was 2002. Doesn't look like this is their year either. Yankees up 2-0 in Game 3. Duensing had a pretty good year, but Yankees getting extra base hits off of him. Enigmamsg 01:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Yeah the road teams are an interesting phenomenon. Glad to see that ended tonight in the Bronx. As I said to Keeper on my page, Twins just seem to get it in their head that they can't - and then they don't. Sad. Always next year I guess. Nice win tonight. Odd heroes in Berkman and Thames, not what we'd have thought going into this year. Twins, Yankees, Sox and Angels seemed to be most common in post season 2000-2010, wonder what 2011-2020 will hold. StarM 03:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Heh, we're on line at the same time. I hate the yankees. I hate that the twins are afraid of them, mostly. I'm tired of having an April-September baseball team. Next year. Keeper | 76 04:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Had a feeling you'd surface post game. My 'net connection ca=rapped out or I'd have been here longer. You're never around on weekends. Wow StarM 02:27, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Unblock request

This should be granted right away. Especially note the part at the end about his mother supposedly contributing to Wikipedia. Enigmamsg 03:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

So, his mother, a famous archaeologist, was an editor, but died when said user was 4? And now, the user him/her self is an editor, following bravely in his mother's footsteps, and is graciously (and to the betterment to society as a whole) also an archaeologist/geologist and Wikipedian?. What is that, like 20+ years later? Exactly how long has this person believed Wikipedia to be around - or the Internet, for that matter? Seriously funny stuff :-) I say unblock him, so he can exercise his right to free delusions :-) Keeper | 76 21:38, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


  In the area? You're invited to the
   Minnesota meetup
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  Date: 31 October 2010
  Time: noon
  Place: Midtown Exchange Global Market,
East Lake Street, Minneapolis, Minnesota
44°56′57″N 93°15′40″W / 44.9493°N 93.2612°W / 44.9493; -93.2612

Keeper, I didn't know you were involved with MN? Sorry about the Twins-- they were supposed to beat the Yankees, ya know. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm "involved" with MN in real life (the road-construction-induced traffic, the frozen tundra 6 mo of the year, the perenially underperforming sports teams, and the deeply repressed Lutherans - ya, yoo betcha) but not on Wiki. Keeper | 76 13:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah, ha! Had I known, I might have visited you in my trips to Mayo. Instead, I wandered around lost thanks to road-construction-induced lack of signage, that really pissed me off. If a major intersection is under construction, do 'ya think the good folk could put up a sign so "tourists" know where to exit? You seem to have hit all the key negative points and some lingo in your list above, but you missed the positive ones :) And something must be done about those sports teams ... I was momentarily deluded that they might actually beat the Yankees! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:04, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
"Trips to Mayo" are generally not for good reasons, but you couldn't have gone to a better place. Hope all is well in that regard. And don't feel bad from the tourist perspective, Minnesotans don't know where the hell to drive either, with or without road construction. You'd think with all of our "Minnesota nice-ness" we'd learn how to merge correctly onto the freeway. I've been this close to running old ladies off the on-ramp, with the justification that prison time would be much more tolerable than entering 6 lanes of traffic going 35 mph behind a buick lesabre...Keeper | 76 04:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I was accompanying my father to Mayo-- not to worry. Buick LeSabre reminds me of the 1962 Ford Falcons-- still manufactured at least as late as 1986-- in Argentina! "Minnesota nice" is an urban myth-- it really means repression expressed as politeness so that one never knows where one really stands with the women there. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
LOL. I've known Minnesota men married 50-60 years who still have no idea where they stand with their wives. Keeper | 76 17:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)