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Seeds out; lower case[edit]

Hi Keroks. The words "first" and "round" are not proper nouns. Therefore they should not be written with an initial capital letter. If "first round" was at the beginning of a sentence, then I could at least understand "First round", with the initial leading upper case F. But certainly not the R, and this information in brackets just isn't a sentence. I beg to ask the question, why "First Round" and not "FIRST ROUND" for those who like capital letters? Just because some members of the tennis project write "First Round", that doesn't make it better, nor, for that matter, correct. Jared Preston (talk) 16:28, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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Welcome back![edit]

Hi Keroks! I was wondering where you had gone. Nice to have you back! smile Jared Preston (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I had gone on a little holiday. Keroks (talk) 01:51, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it's good to get away for a bit to recharge the batteries! Jared Preston (talk) 06:45, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Tennis in Kazan[edit]

Hi Keroks! It seems that you made a mistake in moving the Tatarstan Open article to Kazan Summer Cup, because, if you look at the ITF Women's Calendar – there are two tournaments in Kazan in August. The first is the Summer Cup, but the second, the Tatarstan Open, is still planned to take place (two weeks later). I had made a note of this whilst updating {{2013 ITF Women's Circuit}}. Do you want to move that back or shall I sort this out? Jared Preston (talk) 07:50, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Not to worry, I've done it now. Have a nice weekend! Jared Preston (talk) 09:34, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh, sorry I did not see that. Its because I went onto last years ITF page for the Tatarstan Open and saw it was the same week and same venue so I thought it just had a name change. Glad you fixed that up. Thanks :) Keroks (talk) 10:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Seems a bit strange to me too, since I had noticed the same. Maybe it has something to do with the Universiade, that there are two tournaments of the same category at the same venue only two weeks apart. And let's see what they do next year too... Jared Preston (talk) 11:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

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RE: ITF Women's Circuit stats[edit]

Hi Keroks! I've always appreciated you updating those statistics, but of all the tennis stuff to do here, I feel that is the most complicated and mundane of tasks to do, so I'm afraid, also out of a lack of time, I won't be able to take over that one. You were the only one who did a good job of it, too! I think it would be best to leave it out, rather than let the IPs mess around. As for 2013, how about making a cut at 5? Update it to the year's end with just those listed who have won a total of five titles? Or whatever is easiest? I wouldn't even mind deleting the table, it just seems a shame about all the hard work you put in to it... Jared Preston (talk) 10:30, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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2014 ITF Men's Circuit[edit]

Can you help me complete these articles:

Thanks so much! Banhtrung1 13:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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Tournament in Bogotá[edit]

Hi Keroks! The article can now be found here: Seguros Bolívar Open Bogotá. Keeping in mind what we discussed on my talk page a few weeks ago, today I came across this article in El Nuevo Siglo which details the past winners (2007–2011) and noting there was no tournament the last few years, but that it's a continuation of the previous Seguros Bolívar Open Bogotá which was last known as the Open Seguros Bolívar on the Challenger Tour. I've cleaned up the categorisation of the past tournaments and drawsheets and hope it will be a good one! I will be away at the end of August and beginning of September, but I'll still drop by and help edit where I can. Hope you're having a nice weekend! Jared Preston (talk) 18:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Jared :D Keroks (talk) 02:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

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2014 ITF Women's Circuit[edit]

Thanks for correction my mistake, although there is still info without 25,000+H, now I can see the only tournament 25K+H was played in August at St. Petersburg.--Misbeliever (talk) 14:12, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

There is also going to be two 25K+H events played in Merida in December Keroks (talk) 22:53, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
OK, now I gathered information by looking to the Calendar, where is Merida missing, contrary Dec 2014 ITF source. Best regards.--Misbeliever 23:57, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

sup tags[edit]

Please start closing <sup> with </sup>. Several of us are getting tired of doing it on every tennis article that is edited. Bgwhite (talk) 01:46, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Other stuff exists[edit]

Keroks, to say other people do X is not a valid argument. Many IP editors don't add tie-break scores when updating drawsheets. Shall we follow suit? Some people capitalise "round" in the seeds' sections as well, but that doesn't make it grammatically correct. Parentheses after a lack of punctuation require a lower-case letter, but I've said all this before. Have a nice weekend! Jared Preston (talk) 16:00, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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Category of WTA Elite Trophy[edit]

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ATP profile link templates[edit]

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Hungarian spelling[edit]

Ilka Csoregi/Csöregi/Csőregi? Even in Hungarian sources, I've seen all three forms! Jared Preston (talk) 04:56, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not very sure on this. I've only seen Csöregi so far so I thought it was that, but I think I'll do some further research now and I'll see what I find Keroks (talk) 06:07, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

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Continued great work[edit]

It seems like every time I turn around you've created another player article, and there's never a question as to why they are notable since you always include it in the description. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Agreed, nice work! Articles are usually small, but always tidy, sourced and notable. Keeps our encyclopedia up-to-date regarding new players. Would be good if you could also add the appropriate WikiProject tags on the talk page, that should be a standard part of creating any article.--Wolbo (talk) 22:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Laura Schaeder[edit]

Hi Keroks! It came to my attention that the German tennis player (and I should know!) spells her name Laura Schaeder, and not Laura Schäder, as would seem usual. Note Laura Schaeder on the German Wikipedia and http://www.jasmin-woehr.de/project/laura-schaeder (didn't know that Jasmin Wöhr is now a coach), as well as many other German-language sources, and so I was wondering/hoping you could, when you have some time, correct the spelling of the links. I'd be very grateful! Jared Preston (talk) 23:24, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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Priscilla Hon[edit]

Hi Keroks. Could you transfer File:Priscilla Hon.jpg to Wikimedia Commons that every Wikimedia projects could use it? I would like to use the file on the Finnish Wikipedia. If I understood correctly it's a photo taken by you. --Stryn (talk) 20:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes sure I can do that. Yes it was also taken by me, however I took a better photo of her yesterday that I'm going to upload soon. Keroks (talk) 01:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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2016 Wimbledon Championships – Girls' Doubles[edit]

Do you have any idea why why/how the quarterfinal match Juvan/Świątek—Helgø/Mincă has different results according to the Wimbledon website and the ITF? I don't mean just the score, but who actually won the match and progressed to the semifinals, losing to Bolkvadze/McNally. I noticed the ITF juniors drawsheet was different to the Wikipedia article, which is sourced to wimbledon.com. Can you help investigate? Jared Preston (talk) 23:10, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jared! Nice pick up, but in this situation I would say that the ITF has most likely made a mistake and inputted the wrong winner. I'm pretty sure I didn't do the editing for this match however, but I think Wimbledon is the correct one as they do the livescoring. Also I did some digging and it is confirmed on Juvan's facebook page that they reached the semifinals. Keroks (talk) 02:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, since you mentioned Juvan's facebook page I took a look myself and saw on one of the pictures the Wimbledon court scoreboard in the background (from that quartefinal match), which confirms exactly what you said. Do you think someone should contact the ITF? Because as such they have credited the wrong partnership with the semifinal points, which means their ranking could be different (even though I doubt that they would amend rankings mid-week anyway). Jared Preston (talk) 19:59, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I think someone should contact the ITF. There is a big difference in the points they gave for SF compared to QF, and is unfair on the Juvan/Swiatek pair. I'm not sure how to contact them though? Is there an email or something? Keroks (talk) 02:19, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
You're right. The difference in ranking points is 75 to 120. That would obviously change the players' rankings considerably, I would have thought. In any case, I just rang the ITF in Roehampton and spoke to someone in the juniors department who made note of the mistake, saying they get the results sent straight to them from the referee. They said this would be investigated due to the multiple conflicting sources (Wimbledon drawsheet, facebook photo etc.) so it was worth calling! We'll have to look back in the next few days to see if they have made any amendments. Jared Preston (talk) 10:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the update Jared and good find :D Also I just wanted to address the problem of the colour scheme for next year's ITF circuit? Obviously with the new prize money changes we'll have to implement a new colour scheme and change it on every single player page as well, that could be a hassle. Any ideas? Keroks (talk) 10:20, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
You were the one who found the facebook photo, that was really handy! Without it, without having been there ourselves, it would obviously have been hard to know which score was correct and be 100% sure about it. The ITF said they'd speak to the officials at Wimbledon to get to the bottom of the matter. As for next year's ITF circuit and the colour scheme, I think I'd go with your idea from last October. We've still got a few months to work out if that will work. Jared Preston (talk) 10:29, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Hm, I guess that could work for the main ITF Women's Circuit pages. What about on the player pages? Something like $125,000/$100,000 on one colour might be a bit confusing for readers? Is it possible if we could scrap the whole colour scheme on the player pages and add a new column for "Category"? In that column we could put the category of the title/final. Just a thought. Adding a new colour scheme and then trying to implement them on individual player pages might be a bit confusing and we'd have quite a long legend key and readers might get a bit confused with all the colours. Keroks (talk) 10:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Yuuki Tanaka[edit]

Hi, I noticed you created the above article earlier today. I actually have a much more detailed article at User:Athomeinkobe/Yuuki Tanaka, so I have updated that with the details you had in the article. So I'm letting you know that I've requested for the userspace version to be moved into the main article space. Regards, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 07:19, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, that is fine by me. Thank you. Keroks (talk) 07:46, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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Actually it whether to add the number column against the recent RfC. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:59, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Actually it is about whether we maintain the No. column in the thousands of player articles which have been created over the years or remove all of them as Fyunck(click) proposes.--Wolbo (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

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$15,000 ITF tournaments in 2017[edit]

Hey Keroks, as I recently wrote at User talk:Jared Preston#ITF Circuit prize money increases, why not use the colour "#ccccff;" for $15,000 ITF tournaments in 2017? All of the biographies that already have stats tables use this colour, and $15,000 is still $15,000. Winning a $15,000 tournament three years ago still has the same prize money as it will next year, so I don't get it. Who came up with the other colours? They seem fine. I also note that $25,000 still uses "lightblue", so it would make just as much sense to retain "#ccccff;" for the $15,000 too... Why complicate matters? Jared Preston (talk) 08:41, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

@Jared Preston: Hey Jared. I was the one who came up with the colours, took me ages to find one that was suitable. I decided to leave the $15,000 colour as the $10,000 colour because of a couple of reasons. The current $10,000 colour is the most plain out of all the colours, which I think is suitable to denote the lowest prize money. It prevents the calendar from looking like a multi-coloured mess which is also not pleasing for the eyes of the users. The "#ccccff;" colour is quite a bright purple, and since the $15,000 tournaments are the most common, this will make the calendar look like a mess and it's not very pleasing for the eyes when there is not a colour-block like the $10,000 colour to neutralise it. Perhaps for tournament pages and player pages we can keep their title wins/runner-ups as the #cccff; colour but I think the colour should stay as the $10,000 colour for the calendar pages. Keroks (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Well, that's definitely a bold statement! I don't entirely disagree with you, I just wonder how this will turn out. I guess the only thing we can do is test, try and see how it works. Thanks for your reply and help in the matter, I really haven't been in a position to contribute much, at least in not knowing which colours work best and what names and numbers they have. I'm not surprised it took you ages to find out which ones did! Do you think there will be further changes in 2018 and/or beyond? Jared Preston (talk) 12:05, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
@Jared Preston: Thanks for understanding. Honestly I just went through the list of colours and tried out multiple ones to see which ones fit the best. I do feel that there will be more changes to the prize money in the future (*sigh*) because initially the prize money was set to rise to 15k, 25k, 60k, 90k and 125k in 2017 but there has been conflict with the WTA 125ks I believe so 75k level was only raised to 80k and 100k is staying the same. Yes, I guess we will see how it will work out though but I don't think it will be much of a problem :) Keroks (talk) 12:30, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

ITF category[edit]

I don't agree, as the users will become confused as to which colours should be used. They may later use the current schema in separate tennis player articles. We have a standard key that should be used. The increase of the prize money does not mean the category has been changed. Maybe it will be increased once again in two years? --User:Tomcat7 (talk) 09:11, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

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On ITF tournament names[edit]

Sorry for not explaining the tournament name. I am under the impression (and it has been brought up at tennis project) that we never use a city for the name of a tournament. When the column heading says tournament (not place) we give the name of the event if possible. The ITF gives us names for these events so shouldn't we be using them? I took the names from the ITF website. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:57, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

I think that applies for ATP and WTA tournament in individual player pages. Not the overall ITF Women's Circuit pages. Leave it as it is, the WTA and ATP Tour pages are also like that, it's just since they are notable tournaments they have a page for the individual tournament. I have been editing the ITF Women's Circuit since 2010, please do not change this. It makes sense to leave it as the city names since the tournaments are not notable enough to have their individual tournament pages. I hope you understand, but I don't think this is what it means for the tennis project guidelines thing. Keroks (talk) 12:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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I see you do a majority of the work for the ITF circuit, and first of all would like to say that you are doing a very good job, as I find it difficult to keep up with just a couple of tournaments a week, though you manage a bunch and somehow still keep an accurate count of player titles on the main articles. I just wanted to give you a heads up when it comes to Aussie players Steven de Waard and Gavin van Peperzeel. For some reason, editors were inserting them as "Steven De Waard" and "Gavin Van Peperzeel", which is the incorrect spelling as that middle part should definitely be lowercase. Their social medias also show it as de Waard and van Peperzeel. So I just wanted to give you a heads up since I went back and changed all instances of that and I don't want it to return to the incorrect spelling. Thanks. Adamtt9 (talk) 10:44, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I really appreciate it. I guess in those cases, I was guilty of inserting them like that. I didn't check their social media accounts before so I wasn't aware of the lower-casing, and since they're Aussies I just assumed that it wouldn't really matter since some Aussies with foreign backgrounds such as 'Viktorija Rajicic' aren't spelt as 'Viktorija Rajičić', so I assumed that they wouldn't carry the Dutch (or wherever) way of spelling it. But not a problem, I will insert them the right way now. Thanks Keroks (talk) 10:54, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
It's all good. To be honest, I used to insert them that way as well since I saw them like that previously, but I always thought to myself why they were capitalized, as they are almost always in lowercase for other players. But it's all good now. Adamtt9 (talk) 11:01, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

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