User talk:Kierzek

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Due to a increased work load and life commitments, I will be less active on Wikipedia but will reply to messages, et cetera when I can. Thank you.


Hi, thanks for all the copy editing work you did on the article. I have requested more formal feedback on the article in a peer review. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. A peer review sounds good; it should not take a lot for it to get through to GA in the end. Kierzek (talk) 17:24, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

The Lives of a Bengal Lancer[edit]

You might remember me bringing Bengal Lancers to GA-status back in July 2015; I believe I asked you or Diannaa for some copyedits? Anyhow, I recently added some nice screenshots of the film and did some further edits which nicely suited the article. My present goal is to see this baby reach FA-status. By all means, have another look and the new changes and make some edits if you please. I'll be writing Obenritter a similar message. Best, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 23:49, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't remember it that well, but did have a look just now. I have never seen the movie which would help anyone who was going to edit it to any real degree. My rule of thumb, with the more limited time I generally seem to have now, is to work on bringing lower tier articles up in class, with an end focus of GA class; although I did help bring one article up to Class A. So I must pass on any FA work. Kierzek (talk) 03:38, 8 January 2016 (UTC)


Doesn't it strike you as... well... let's use the phrase non-neutral, that this criminal starvation camp is not mention at all in World War II? Furthermore, when has it ever been mention in any documentaries or school books? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 19:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I had heard about this before in a documentary, but am not an authority as to the details. As for inclusion here on Wikipedia, any suggestions for additions, you should mention on the article talk page. Kierzek (talk) 19:50, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I am extremely shocked that such a barbaric war crime could occur after World War II without legal prosecutions, let alone be masterminded by a man who would later be President of the United States. What a sinister act! Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 21:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Jonas, thinking about this further, I must advise you to not post or write about this with anyone at all. Given I recall you are under a topic ban which would cover this area above. So I will not reply further, nor state any opinion. I will only say that the whole matter it controversial and I recall there is POV driven opinion and at least one POV driven book on the subject (which I have not read). At any rate, I will not discuss this herein and again suggest you not do so with anyone given it would be covered by your topic ban. Kierzek (talk) 22:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Yea, Diannaa brought this to my attention. I was not aware of that. Best, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 22:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Good, to be clear I lined through my earlier suggestion above; as frankly I was not thinking it through at the time and forgot it would be covered by your topic ban. Kierzek (talk) 22:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


Hi, are the following images showing Fegelein next to Himmler? What do you think?

Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:02, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes the first two definitely. The third one is harder to see the picture well on my smart phone, but I believe it is. Kierzek (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
I thought so too. What confused me, all three images seem to be taken at the same location (or near the same location) and time. The first two images are dated 21 June 1941, the third states May 1942. MisterBee1966 (talk) 00:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
I have never seen Fegelein in a German helmet. Always just the standard Waffen SS officers cap or with no headgear at all. Kierzek (talk) 02:42, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
@MisterBee1966: Now that I am back from vacation, looking at it again; one still cannot see the face well on the third photo even on a desk top screen; I still believe it is Fegelein; something else though - how can the photo dates be correct of "21 June 1941" for the first two? I know you said the third states "May 1942".
The rank collar tabs show him as a SS-Standartenführer, (which although it is true he obtained that rank in the Allgemeine-SS in 1937) when these photos were said to have been taken, he was serving in the Waffen-SS. He did not obtain that same rank in the Waffen-SS until 1 February 1942. So, the date on the third photo is probably correct. Kierzek (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Why not link to a primary source?[edit]

Hey, don't want to seem unfriendly, but what's up with removing the link to an article about Joseph Goebbels' speech against the Catholics that was published in the Chicago Tribune the following day? As a teacher, I know students like to be able to track down those sorts of things, and I was under the impression that once a person released something on Wikipedia, they had agreed to allow edits. Not sure why you'd call it "unnecessary" since it does link to something that wasn't there before and which is absolutely relevant to research. At classical schools, we always teach our students to go to the primary sources, and so it's a bit confusing to me as to why someone would delete that. EDGRC

Hello, thanks for the note. That information is already present and cited to a very good secondary WP:RS (Evans). Your good faith entry/addition is a cumulative citation which is not needed; only on matters which can be considered to have great weight or may be contentious are multiple RS cites needed. Also, I suggest you read this Wikipedia:Third-party sources and WP:WPNOTRS. What you could do is add it to the "Further reading" section near the bottom of the article. Kierzek (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for directing me to these guidelines. I do have a question, though. Wikipedia states, "Every article on Wikipedia must be based upon verifiable statements from multiple third-party reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. A third-party source is one that is entirely independent of the subject being covered, e.g., a newspaper reporter covering a story that they are not involved in except in their capacity as a reporter." Since my link was to a newspaper story about Goebbels' speech, would it not fit under the heading of a third-party reliable source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy? Could you clarify this for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EDGRC (talkcontribs) 20:39, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it would given it is the "Chicago Tribune" you cite (since it is not a tabloid, etc.). I would consider adding it to further reading section. Kierzek (talk) 20:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

History of cardistry[edit]

I appreciate they might not teach a lot about cardistry in law school, but would be nice with some copyedits -- that is, of course, if you feel like it/have the time. Best, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 18:58, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Maybe Diannaa have time to look at it as well. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your prize!) 17:50, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
I know I do not have the time at the moment. Kierzek (talk) 21:38, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXVIII, January 2016[edit]

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Comment on JFK[edit]

I would have no problem moving the entire "Iraq" section to Foreign policy of the John F. Kennedy administration if you prefer. Iraq was not a particularly important part of Kennedy's presidency, except inasmuch as a number of revisionists suddenly began blaming Kennedy for the rise of the radical pro-Soviet wing of the Iraqi Ba'ath Party (which seized power in 1968)—and thus Saddam Hussein's 1979 ascension to President of Iraq—after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, even though such claims are factually inaccurate. I found it difficult to condense the material regarding the various measures taken by Qasim's government that resulted in his pariah status to the U.S. and much of the Arab world, or to correct the grossly inaccurate description of the November coup without going into a certain amount of detail regarding the structure of the short-lived Ba'athist regime of 1963. Regards,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 07:08, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the email. I think the move you suggest is a good idea. Although something needs to survive in the main article on the matter, either a short mention or link to the long detail (moved) section. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA[edit]

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Thank you for participating in and supporting my RfA. It was very much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)


In search for my next article, I started looking into the biography of Albrecht Brandi, U-boat commander. What I didn't realize until now, his father was Ernst Brandi, a top manager in the coal and steel industry, who was involved in the Secret Meeting of 20 February 1933, and helped fund the Nazi election campaign of 1933, which pinnacled in the Enabling Act of 1933. Do you happen to have more context info? I find it very fascinating that Albrecht received such high awards during World War II for so-so success as a U-boat commander, at least in comparison to others. Thoughts? Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Interesting, I will check to see if I have any info. on the father. Kierzek (talk) 16:36, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I checked and none of my books have anything on the father. Kierzek (talk) 14:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

SS Medical Corps[edit]

Just recently noticed that this article was in terrible shape so I began a little work on it. Feel free to jump in here. --Obenritter (talk) 03:34, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Okay, and keep up the good work; many articles need it. You should be able to copy edit over some information and cites from the main SS sub-section on the SS Medical Corps. Kierzek (talk) 13:38, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Germany or Nazi Germany?[edit]

Do you have an opinion about this RFC? Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 21:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

I have stated it, thanks. Kierzek (talk) 21:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your support[edit]

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Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:33, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

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For all the help you gave me with Marilyn Monroe and for being an amazing editor! TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, very much. I am glad I could be of some help. You did an excellent job on reworking and improving the article. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 13:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)