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Arrondissement pages[edit]

Hi, I noticed you were improving those articles and meant to contact you, but just didn't get around to it. If you're doing this work manually, it might be easier to let me know what changes you'd like made and I can probably change my Jave code that generates the articles and then re-run the bot. Or I could just mail you the source files to allow you to do global search and replace if that fitted in with what you want to do. Dlyons493 Talk 20:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi this is eagle, I was going to try untill I realized that there are not enough categorys. (I think) If you come up with a standard plan, I will be glad to assist. Just let me know and I will run regex using the AutoWikiBrowser for you. If you take the lead on the plan I will be glad to carry it out for you.

Another reason I stopped was that I am not from France, and I don't know anything about france. {Please give me some idea's) I really would like to help. (I wish I knew what to do...some advice please)
P.S. I am running regex right now looking for restruants that were placed in the food stub category, and moving them to the appropriate location.
Eagle (talk) (desk) 23:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)respond on my talk page please(The AutoWikiBrowser will stop and let me know of your message) Thanks and please do respond!!!

OkEagle (talk) (desk) 00:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Page Blanking[edit]

On 08-Feb, you blanked Benfeld (canton) and Canton of Benfeld. Blanking pages is generally considered a bad idea. I've reverted them to the previous versions. If you believe these redirects should be deleted, please follow redirect portion of the deletion procedures. If you believe different content should go there, please create stubs. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 01:27, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The problem I was trying to resolve was that both these Benfeld canton pages redirected to the Benfeld commune page, which itself seems to have quite inaccurate information. I'll leave your reverts for the time being, but as part of my broader project to tidy up all canton pages (see my user page for more details), hopefully more meaningful content will be added soon. Kiwipete 20:27, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd recommend that you pick one of the canton pages and turn it into a stub. You only need a few sentences and an appropriate stub tag. Then you can redirect the other canton page to that one. Stubs are a great way of handeling cases like this. -- JLaTondre 20:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

French region infoboxes[edit]

Your links made no sense, they linked to lists of communes, cantons, and arrondissements in départements. For instance the Ile-de-France infobox linked to lists of communes in the Ile-de-France département, which makes no sense, there is no such thing as the "Ile-de-France département". Hardouin 20:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Reg25.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Reg25.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or ask for help at Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. Thank you. -- Carnildo 12:33, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I've had a look at the Wikipedia:Image copyright tags page, but am not sure which tag to use. The INSEE license (in English) seems to indicate that it is freely available, but there seem to be a number of different tags that might be appropriate. Can you please give me some help on this? Regards, Kiwipete 22:52, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Canton of Benfeld[edit]

While it is possible that the page should not be a redirect, this is not solved by removing the data in the page. please address this at Redirects for Deletion. Blanking pages is a bad idea as stipulated by JLaTondre earlier in this discussion page and is considered vandalism by many wikipedia editors. You will find that blanking the page in an attempt to delete it will merely lead to it being repeatedly recreated by other users. I am going to revert your blanking again and implore you to address the deletion in a proper forum (RfD) or replace the redirect pages with meaningful content. I would do so myself except I have neither the expertise nor the time to aquire said expertise. Usrnme h8er 03:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I finally got round to looking at the differences in communes between the version I originally posted and yours. Some of these are obvious - for the CAFs I've numbered the communes, whereas you've aggregated them (which is probably better). The communes of Le Morne-Vert and Bellefontaine seem no longer to exist - as far as I can see, the latter has merged with Case-Pilote into Case-Pilote-Bellefontaine and I don't know what happened Le Morne-Vert.

But Fonds-Saint-Denis still exists as far as I know.

Do you have any more information - e.g. a link to the relevant INSEE page? Dlyons493 Talk 16:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. The page I think should be authorative is [1]
Um, possibly you were intending to reply to someone else, but I've had a look at Communes of the Martinique département and also Cantons of the Martinique département and they seem to agree with the INSEE page you have quoted above. In particular, the communes of Le Morne-Vert and Bellefontaine are both listed. Case-Pilote-Bellefontaine is a canton, not a commune. It comprises the communes of Case-Pilote and Bellefontaine. I agree with you that the commune of Fonds-Saint-Denis still exists. Let me know if I can be of any further help. Kiwipete 08:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Arrondissement of Bourg-en-Bresse[edit]

I saw that you made an edit to this page, so I hope you know a little more about it than I do. I'm going through links to disambiguation pages ("Roman") and there is a link to Romans in this article, referring to a town in France. There are two options on the Roman disambig page, and I don't know which. Could you please take a look and link the article to the correct page? Thanks for your help. --Mmounties (Talk) Pawprint.png 15:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi I've put the correct disamig to Romans, Ain into the Bourg-en-Bresse page. Dlyons493 Talk 15:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Cantons of France[edit]

Kiwipete - It's funny you mention INSEE - because that is the source I am using for verification. Check this area on INSEE ([2]) - it shows the map of the cantons, with Grenoble (canton non precise), and then this one ([3]) shows the commune of Grenoble. Unless I am missing something on the map that you can help me with - or unless the maps are not correctly showing the cantons (as they do not match the list that you pointed out to me). Can you help? Rarelibra 14:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You're probably busy with things. But I am continuing to make edits as I go through the lists of Cantons. You'll see I back up my edits with the official INSEE number corresponding to the edit. Hope this helps. Rarelibra 16:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I have been preoccupied with other matters. I've looked at the INSEE pages you mention, but I'm not sure what the term "canton non précisé" actually means. Do you know? I have also checked the canton list from the Conseil General website for Isere ([4]) and it does not include a canton of Grenoble. I think the confusion arises where a single commune (e.g. Grenoble) is split across multiple cantons (e.g. Grenoble 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc). Normally, a single canton comprises multiple communes. Can you check this further before continuing with your edits? I'm glad to help in any way I can. Regards, Kiwipete 00:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
From what I can tell, the INSEE site says

"Dans le cas des communes découpées en cantons, les différentes fractions cantonales de la commune figurent avec leur numéro de code dans la liste de la commune. Il est également renseigné pour ces communes un numéro de code pour les "cantons non précisés ". Il est généralement utilisé lorsque l'on ne veut pas ou que l'on ne peut pas caractériser une fraction cantonale pour la commune. Le code de canton non précisé ne s'adresse donc qu'à des communes entières. A l'heure actuelle les valeurs des cantons non précisés sont comprises entre 84 et 99."
I don't speak French, but it roughly translates to:
"In the case of the communes cut out in cantons, the various cantonal fractions of the commune appear with their number of code in the list of the commune. It is also indicated for these communes a number of code for the "not specified cantons". It is generally used when it is not wanted or that one cannot characterize a cantonal fraction for the commune. The code of canton not specified is thus addressed only to whole communes. At present the values of the cantons not specified are included/understood between 84 and 99."
So I'm not sure, but in mapping there is no easy way, it seems, to break down the cantons if they are cross-commune? Rarelibra 18:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


I reverted your revert to this page. Seems reasonable. I have this ethic where I have to tell people when I revert their revert, lest I should be labelled troll. --Madnessinshorts 13:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what "reasonable" applies to - your original edit, my reversion, or this comment? A few people, myself included, have been standardising all arrondissement pages, including the categories that they belong to, and it would be nice to keep them all following the same pattern. Are you going to apply your update to all arrondissement pages, or can I re-revert your change? Kiwipete 01:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Anglicization of French terms[edit]

Hi Pete- Thanks for your work on the above--I've been wanting to tackle some of that myself. On a related topic, I think the division categories in the Administrative divisions of France template should be made singular. What do you think? Here's a discussion I had about it. -Eric (talk) 14:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Eric. I've replied on the talk page. Kiwipete 03:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I also wish to add my thanks for the work you have been doing on this issue. I have been carrying out similar work, disambiguating the links, removing italics and translating all terms to English, including Préfecture → Prefectures in France, and moving pages to English titles. Your work is appreciated as there is a lot to do. Thanks, and continue the good work. --Bob 08:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheers, Bob. I've been a bit worried that my rather limited edits have made your job, which I certainly have noticed and very much appreciate, a bit harder. All I've been trying to do is get rid of all links to the now old-fashioned Cantons of xxx département pages, which I still have some left of. Kiwipete 09:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


Hello - I'm contacting you because of your involvement with many French articles. A few have undertaken the task of "Anglicising" French terms in Wiki articles (eg/: "Région => Region"; "Département => Departement") - there doesn't seem to have been any discussion about this, so your point of view would be welcome. I think a good place for this discussion would be the WP:FR page. Thank you. THEPROMENADER 14:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello - I'm contacting you because of your involvement with using English instead of foreign terms in articles. A few are trying to "Anglicise" French terms in Wiki articles according to current guidelines but there is some resistance (eg/: "Région => Region"; "Département => Departement"). Your input would be appreciated here. Thankyou. --Bob 17:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Halt the Anglicisation[edit]

Hello Kiwipete. I'm sure you're quite aware that there is an ongoing discussion about your and Gcampbell's unwarrented (and half-baked) "Anglicisation" of thousands of France-related articles at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_France - what's more, there is now a WP:RFC open about it. You would do very well to cease. I'm sure you'll understand my returning the articles you "Anglicised" these last days to their former state until discussion is complete - and until you have a widespread consensus for continuing to transform the long-established contributions of so many in this singular way. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 23:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Addendum: I note now that you have only "Anglicised" article wikilinks to match other already-Anglicised article titles - this is not as bad as what I originally thought, but this change is still unwarrented - and rather "in the face" of the ongoing discussion about this. I am of the advice that article titles will indeed be Anglicised, but still I would wait for this result to become more than my own prediction. Again cheers. THEPROMENADER 23:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please stop immediately. These changes are very contreversial and there is already a discussion in progress concerning its validity. Please show some respect for the dozens of editors who wrote these articles. --Aquarelle 12:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Kiwipete, and we're also going back to the long-established flat-earth map with sea monsters at the edges. -Eric (talk) 13:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know, the last post by Eric is supposed to be funny. He also compares people who disagree with him to Hitler, the Nazi party, and Women-haters. It's called a fallacy, or a mistaken beliefe based upon an unsound argument, and he usually responds to them with false analogies. --Aquarelle 13:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Funnily enough, the last post by Aquarelle is not supposed to be funny. -Eric (talk) 15:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Stop, Kiwipete. Last warning. THEPROMENADER 18:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Or ELSE !!! Emblem-ohno.svg --Bob 18:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Just what sort of playpen is this? That's approval if it's anything. Very well then. THEPROMENADER 18:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Um, actually, I have. Do you think I have been continuing my edits? Kiwipete 06:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
So you did, Kiwipete - apologies. Thank you. THEPROMENADER 10:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, repairing disambiguation links is such a big deal... The actual text has not changed. --Bob 19:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

You know that what he is doing is a form of consolidation - of a single-handed "taste-based" action whose merits haven't even been reviewed yet. During a bleeding WP:RFC on the matter, no less. Do not feign ignorance, bob. THEPROMENADER 19:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Signpost archive[edit]

Here is where I have archived my old Signpost articles.

Geography stub categories[edit]

Hi - it's taken a couple of months, but I've just noticed that you crated several geo-stub categories for New Zealand regions. Those templates had deliberately been left upmerged into the main New Zealand geography stubs category, since they fell below the threshold of 60 stubs necessary for separate categories (too many small, fractionated categories actually makes it harder for editors to find articles to expand). If some of them don't grow soon, they may need to be deleted and re-upmerged. Notice that the categories contained {{WPSS-cat}} at the top, with its message:

Grutness...wha? 23:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Cantons changing of arrondissements[edit]

You'll find the change on III.VIII, page 148 (140 of the pdf) of this document [5]. A lot of changes are happening now that the changes can be done by the préfet and not by the ministre. Changes have been done in 26, 27, 33, 39, 41, 43 (this one, Saugues), 51, 62, 72, 77 & 974. One arrondissement (Arcachon) has also been created in 33. I've removed the communes from the arrondissement of Le Puy but I still need to put them in the one from Brioude. If you need to contact me in emergency, you can write to Birdie which is my french nick and that I check every day. Gato76680 19:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Arr613.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Arr613.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 21:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Lagarde-d'Apt, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. -- gorgan_almighty 12:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Noting your objection to the {{prod}} deletion proposal tag I put on the Lagarde-d'Apt article, I have moved the issue to AfD instead. That way a larger number of people can review the issue, and a consensus can be reached. You will find the relevant AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lagarde-d'Apt. Please do not remove the {{afd1}} tag from thre top of the article unless a keep consensus is reached and the AfD is concluded. —gorgan_almighty 15:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the accent (which I can't seem to be able to type with my keyboard). However, the official website says 'tracks', not traces...Also, I've added the reference but in actual truth that link would hold for the whole history section...Zigzig20s 09:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

When I do my editing, there is a section of accented characters (as hyperlinks) below the edit box. Just click on one and it will be inserted where your cursor is located. I'll change 'traces' back to 'tracks'. Kiwipete 01:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


Do you agree with the current format? It should be applied to ALL articles. The eccl. (shit) history is to a separate article, and also, hopefully, deprived of all the Catholic POV taken from that horrendous 1910 encyclopedia. Also, if a list has just an entry, what's the reason to keep it? the only mayor listed is present in the infobox too. Let me know and good work. --Attilios 09:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Cantons and land area[edit]

For land areas, the authority is They give the land area of communes, but I don't know if they give the land area of cantons. If not, then you'll have to add up the land area of the communes inside a given canton. Of course that works only for cantons made up of full communes. For cantons who cut across communes, your only chance is to check the websites of the conseils généraux which sometimes list the land areas of their cantons. Godefroy 13:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Problems with Virgile1991[edit]

Hi again. It seems we're having a problem with User:Virgile1991. This guy has been repeatedly changing the region flags in the French regions articles (check for instance Poitou-Charentes or Picardie), replacing the current region flags with the flags of the old provinces of France. I thought he would stop, but no, I have to check these articles everyday now which is time consuming. Do you know if there's a place where I could report his/her attitude? He/she seems very young and not really interested in discussing things rationally. Godefroy 14:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at Edit wars and Dispute resolutions. This may give you some guidelines that you can follow. As to what the actual flags should be, I'm no expert, but it may be helpful if you can give some external references for both your and Virgile1991's preferences that would support your case. Regards, Kiwipete 01:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Arrondissements of Eure[edit]

Yes, it's at the bottom of the page: Arrondissements of Eure. If a list comprises basically the contents of a category, it had better have something quite interesting about it, but the only thing in this article are the three arondissements. If you say there are over a hudnred articles like, then they should be deleted as well, or at least all merged into a List of arondissements of France. DevAlt 08:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

And in fact there is a List of arrondissements of France, so why we need a hundred articles telling us the same information already contained in a list and a category but which carries no extra interest is beyond me. Perhaps you could explain? DevAlt 08:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I would suggest that you propose any changes to these articles at WP:FR. I would note that these articles do contain population change information not found elsewhere. Also, these pages are linked to from the template Template:Infobox Department of France, which is used in all department articles. Kiwipete 09:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

France, football, and POV[edit]

Hi, I know you're interested in French region articles, so perhaps you'd be willing to help with this. As you may or may not know, Guadeloupe football team is allowed to take part in North American championships (but not in the World Cup where only the French national team is allowed), and this month there's the 2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup taking place in the US (this is the North American cup, a bit like the Eurocup). Guadeloupe reached the semi-final, media talked about it, and that's how I discovered about the Gold Cup and about Guadeloupe taking part in that cup. I read the relevant articles on Wikipedia to find more information, and that's where all the troubles started.

Basically, to make this short, the people taking part in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football have decided to name teams from countries and regions alike as "national teams". So we have Guadeloupe national football team, Brittany national football team, Andalucia national football team, Cantabria national football team, and even, believe it or not, Occitania national football team. There's a discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#"national" team for subnational entities?. I've tried to explain that these subnational entities are not nations, that calling them nation is POV, but to no avail. Unfortunately the discussion attracts very little attention outside of this circle of people interested in the WikiProject Football. Maybe you could have a look and express an outside view.

The second thing is the 2007 Gold Cup article itself. People there represent the Guadeloupe team with this flag: [6]. As you probably already know, this flag has no official recognition and is not widely used, yet they insist on using it. This despite the fact that the Guadeloupe team uses the French tricolor flag in the Gold Cup and not this fantasy flag that they insist on using here. Yet when I tried to restore the French flag I was immediately reverted. You can see the discussion that I opened here: Talk:2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup#Flag of the Guadeloupe football team. I've provided sources and links there. Again, since you know a bit about French regions and their flags, perhaps you can express an outside view on this. I tried to explain that this flag has no recognition, that this is not like, say, the official flag of a US state, but to no avail.

It seems very hard to discuss things rationally there, so it would be good to open the discussion to outside people. If you know other people that could contribute, please let them know. Thanks. Godefroy 22:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Arrondissements of France[edit]

Thank you for your message. According to my French-English dictionary, arrondissement translates as district. Wikipedia policy is to use English and you are surely aware that arrondissement is not a word in common English usage so I dont think arrondissement really qualifies. Your argument that arrondissement is more specific in an administrative context is rather meaningless: Any word is more specific in an administrative context. In the UK, district is a very specific word in an administrative context.

I am therefore very tempted to return the page to "Districts of France", but I am in no hurry and will do more research over a few days (or maybe longer if i am busy). In the meantime I will make some minor preliminary edits to the intro to similar effect. Please feel free to comment further (although I may not reply fast). Mesoso2 20:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

District has a specific meaning in french (a division of the départements between 1789 & 1801 and an old sort of community of communes). Using it instead of arrondissement would be a confusion of senses. Gato76680 12:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes thats ok. I want to put an image at the right top though -a photo. Hey above what is the problem. Many countries have their own nmaing systems for administrative divisions that ar euique to that country. IN the Ukraine and Russia they are known as Raions. We use this name on wikipedia as with others. iN Mongolia a district is known as a Sum and we also use this term on wikipedia so there is absolutely no problem with Arrondissements ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 09:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


What's the "Nécropole Nationale de Luynes"?Zigzig20s 02:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I found a reference to it in my AA 2005 France Maxi Atlas (ISBN 0749542608). To get more details, you can Google it. Kiwipete 01:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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le Gers[edit]

I have spent a couple of summers in the Gers being corrected by the natives, both in French and in English....I have family there. Trust me it IS le Gers and the Gers not just Gers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gordito666 (talkcontribs) 22:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Where you spend your time is absolutely irrelevant. Fact is that the official name of the department is "Gers". Period. olivier 08:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Woaaaah, I dont mean this to be personal. It is le Gers, or the Gers. If you refer to French websites, or the Mairies in the department you will notice it is 'Departemnet du Gers and not simply Department de Gers. While simply stating its name, such as the title of the wikipedia article it may be acceptable to refer to it simply as 'Gers' you will find that it is usually referred to with le (en Francais ou 'The' en Anglais). Please review the official websites to see what I mean, Id be happy to discuss further if you still disagree, perhaps over a glass of local Armagnac in Auch! Gordito666 03:06, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello. Please do not insert trivia into the introductory paragraph of the article on Aix-en-Provence. You included a mistranslation of an autoroute sign « Aix - ville d'eau, ville d'art » with the description "marketing tagline". This is inaccurate, unsourced and WP:POV. You might also like to know that Aix is a "ville fleurie" (official source: municipal plaque installed in September 2007 on roundabout near autoroute entrance at Pont de l'Arc). Would you translate this as "flowery town"? I'd say "city in bloom". BTW there was a huge welcome sign for the All Blacks on the tourist office while they were here. I included their visit in the trivia section of the article. Cheers, Mathsci 09:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

You would notice from my change description that I was simply moving text (that someone else had previously added) from the article Arrondissement of Aix-en-Provence to the more appropriate article Aix-en-Provence. As for it being "a mistranslation of an autoroute sign", the description can indeed be found on this website which I have now included in the external links section of the article. I have no idea how to translate "ville fleurie." What has the All Blacks got to do with any of this? Kiwipete 09:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
The english website of the Aix tourist office is not very good. For example apart from their poor translation of "Ville d'eau, Ville d'art" (which you will note does not appear on the french master site), they write, "News magazine: Our picks, what event is occuring, main interests..." Hopeless. The french version is more up to date and has a clearly visible union jack in the right corner, so I will restore it, leaving your own helpful addition. BTW I mentioned the All Blacks above just as a way of indicating to you that there is a place in the article for miscellaneous facts and because you appear to be from New Zealand. On the other hand I am what might be called a whinging pom :) As you may guess, I also live in Aix. Cheers, Mathsci 09:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Flag of France.svg WikiProject Newsletter n°1[edit]

Bonjour and welcome to the first WikiProject France newsletter!! It should become a monthly special of our project, but until the next issue, here are some points to consider for the month:

It doesn't seem like a lot, so I hope we will still have enough problems for nexts months issue. Salut till the next issue, ChrisDHDR (17:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)).

Flag of France.svg WikiProject Newsletter n°2[edit]

It's been one high aiming month! The French WikiProject and related pages have been aiming high for Christmas - and have received an equal number of presents in return!

Well, that's this issue. Au revoir et à bientôt till the next time, ChrisDHDR (18:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)).


Hi! I changed the spelling according to French wikipedia. There have native speakers written the name with "œ" so I thought it will be correct. Kind regards and :) Doma-w (talk) 10:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


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Caro or Çaro[edit]

Hi, the sources seem to be contradictory on this point. Having read the French wikipedia article at fr:Çaro (it was moved there from Caro a year ago, see [7]) and the Basque name "Zaro", which implies a "s"-sound and not a "k"-sound, I assumed it was a simple typo or overeager diacritics removal. You're right that INSEE calls it Caro, I'm not sure how reliable quid is. On the 1:25,000 IGN maps (accessible via it's Çaro, on larger scale IGN maps it's Caro. Strange. Seeing the "toponymie" section of the French wikipedia article, I suppose Çaro is correct, because all older forms have a "s"- or "sh"-sound. Markussep Talk 10:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Template:Ain communes[edit]

I don't remember; I think I just copy and pasted it from somewhere else and then pasted it every time I needed it.   jj137 (talk) 01:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


Although the word commune does appear in English dictionaries, I think most readers would associate it with hippies or Communists. Hence the italics. Ksnow (talk) 01:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)Ksnow

Template:Vienne communes[edit]

Hi, I like the work you have done on this template. I have a tool just about ready that will generate all French department commune templates, and I'll incorporate your design into mine. Cheers, Kiwipete (talk) 03:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kiwipete. I was thinking of going another mile after figuring out more of wikipedia's syntax. Maybe added group headings of the cantons within the arrondissements, then a list of the communes within the cantons. Sort of like what's at the following link under Navbox, Navbox with columns, and Navbox with collapsible groups together - Former French colonies in Africa and the Indian Ocean Template:Navbox_with_collapsible_groups#Nesting_other_Navbox_forms. That can be something that's done in the future though, with another tool or bot.

I'm glad you know how to program a tool to automate this, I don't. Thanks. --Formerly the IP-Address (talk) 03:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree, more fancy stuff can be added later. At the moment, I'm still purifying my commune database to get all the correct disambiguated names. Then I'll just run a perl script to generate the templates. Kiwipete (talk) 04:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Sounds great, it'll be nice to see them made. I did finish with the fancy stuff, but don't know how difficult it would be to write a script for the new template layout, or even whether you want to (the new template is taller than the old one, which might be a negative. --Formerly the IP-Address (talk) 00:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Templates for French départements[edit]

I've seen some of the templates you made, and they are huge. I think it would be more appropriate to list only arrondissements or cantons in these departmental templates, and list communes in templates made for the cantons. Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 02:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, some them are large, but they have a default status of collapsed, so they don't take up a lot of screen real estate unless they are actually opened by the user. See here for more discussions. Kiwipete (talk) 02:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for finishing these templates, but please pay attention to the default sort order. Basically, any name that starts with a definite article (la, le, or les) is sorted under the next word, and all letters thereafter are sorted disregarding spaces (hyphens).


Hi. I came across this on new page patrol and was surprised as I know we had already started them. However it had a page on french wiki so I figured we'd missed it. Do whatever is correct ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 11:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Augeant[edit]

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Vía Francigena[edit]

Hi Kwipete,

I have not used talk pages before so please have patience with me.

All the links that I put on the Vía Francigena page are there solely because they interact with this wonderful road to Rome. I would expect them to be deleted if they are not.

Regards WALL1FER


I moved this based on the French Wikipedia article. Ksnow (talk) 20:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)Ksnow

WikiProject France newsletter[edit]

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Places in France[edit]

Kia ora, Pete! The Genealogy Wikia is adding material about French localities, and naturally I found your user page on a list of "What links here" for one of them. Seems I may be copying some of your creations before long (with the proper acknowledgment, of course). Keep up the good work! (Maybe I can tempt you into moonlighting at Genealogy?? Robin Patterson (talk) 02:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC) in Plimmerton.


Saint-Gaudens, Saint Gaudens, and St. Gaudens may refer to:

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Can you finish off the translation in the history part? Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Very belated reply to User talk:ST47[edit]

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Venables, Eure (Armorial of the Communes of Eure)[edit]

Thanks for fixing the link.

If they show up in red, it's easy to see the link needs fixing. If they don't, it's a lot harder to tell. Sigh! --David V Houston (talk) 21:29, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: French cantons[edit]

The only way I can see to find the demographic evolution of a canton is to find the individual commune's demographic evolution, such as at . These can be found at the insee link on the french wikipedia (in the commune's references) and then click on the link that says "Evolution demographie" or something like that. You can then add these populations together. French User Badmood (which may or may not be a bot) already did these calculations, and I simply copied it over from there. I wouldn't know how to cite all of those links however. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 18:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Kiwipete (talk) 04:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


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French sorting[edit]

Computer sorting is messed up by hyphens and capitals. I am following INSEE sorting rules. Ksnow (talk) 00:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)Ksnow

French commune populations[edit]

The horizontal version of Historical populations doesn't work when you have a long list because it doesn't adjust to the infobox on the right side. It always gets pushed down below, leaving a big blank space. Ideally, we need a horizontal template that adjusts to the space available. Until that is created, I will continue to use the vertical one. Ksnow (talk) 11:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)Ksnow

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