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It would be great if you please let me know what kind of websites are very 'appropriate' to be specified as references for business topics, since government websites have very limited or no content related to new terminologies. Are International bank websites considered trustworthy? since everything they do is authorised by the government.HarishMP (talk) 12:39, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

A brief commercial pitch page is not in any way acceptable. You can read through our guidelines at WP:RS. If you are unable to find reliable sources, then the material is likely not worthy of inclusion. Kuru (talk) 13:23, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


Thanks for this. Clearly one revert wasn't enough xD DrStrauss talk 17:01, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

No problem - happens sometimes! Kuru (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Halloween cheer![edit]

Question about Formsbank[edit]

Dear Kuru, It has come to the attention of our analytics team that our domain name is currently blacklisted on After a thorough investigation we have found out that our hired SEO team had been posting spam-like links to parts of our website in the reference section of Wikipedia’s articles. This kind of approach is not something our company practices: the responsible employees have been suspended and as of today we have taken the necessary steps to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future.

We value our brand name - our goal being to provide genuinely good content - and we accept full responsibility for this mistake.

I've read that generally WikiPedia doesn't de-list sites based on requests from site owners or representatives. But are there any steps we can take in order to be delisted?

Thank you in advance, Igor, Formsbank team.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

As you note, we remove blacklisted domains only when there is a reason to do so. Most spammed domains are unlikely to have a legitimate use here, so they are seldom removed. I can't dig into this at the moment, but would be happy to look at this later today. Kuru (talk) 14:49, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
I would personally like to thank you for taking the time to look into our situation.
Formsbank is an up-and-coming project with a goal to help users make their paperwork easier and we take pride in doing our best to provide quality content and good service.
We try our best to be a people-oriented and genuinely useful resource - launching our blog several weeks ago - and do hope that our efforts can help people out in some way or another. Igor, Formsbank team.

Hello again, Kuru. I'm sorry for disturbing You again. Still looking for your answer. Thanks in advance. (talk) 14:12, 17 November 2017 (UTC)Igor.

i have some free time today, will look at it. Kuru (talk) 14:40, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
At your request, I've reviewed the activity related to this link. The link was spammed thirty-odd times from IPs in Russia, Czechoslovakia and Germany over a period of four months. The additions were intentionally deceptive; pretending in many cases to be "references" when there was nothing at the link to even support the material. Since the spamming occurred across many articles and across several IPs and warnings were ignored, the only choice was to blacklist the link. If there is something at the site which can be used as a legitimate reference, then you can request whitelisting of a specific URL at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. Kuru (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


He's currently editing as Special:Contributions/ I honestly don't know how to respond to his personal attacks so I thought I'd alert you. Sro23 (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Agreed,blocked - his last five IPs have been in the Netherlands. Presumably another trip. Kuru (talk) 17:50, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Answer to your message[edit]

Thanks for your message. I have no problem at all with what you have done. You got there by following up an old edit that I didn't take much notice of, since isolated IP edits from a long time ago are often irrelevant, but on this occasion it clearly wasn't. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Why does a new topic need to occur for a listing that is unique in the dataset?[edit]

GoSale is the only price comparison website in the dataset to include Price Alerts, Extensions for 4 browsers, price history with graphs. No other combination exists. Why do you suppress this information, Sir? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

I don't really care what it offers. I do care that the list has been spammed many times. Please only include additions that have existing articles and reliable sourcing. Thanks. Kuru (talk) 02:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Block evasion by ViamarisBalbi[edit]

Hi Kuru. Since SPI is moving at a rather slow pace, this is to let you know that ViamarisBalbi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) has been evading his block with two other socks. CalinicoFire, one of the socks, has all but confessed. Please see also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ViamarisBalbi. Thank you. Dr. K. 17:25, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I get a block of time. On a quick glance, that looks pretty suspicious, but I'm not sure if it's a meatpuppet or a sock without digging through all the diffs. Kuru (talk) 02:53, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Block of time. That was a pretty good turn of phrase. :) No problem Kuru. We still have time, and in any case, there is no pressure. I just wanted to let you know because with the slow-moving SPIs this could fall under the radar. If you don't have time, don't bother. All the best. Dr. K. 03:20, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
I dug through all the histories earlier; I'm pretty convinced. I added another example from commons and here that's pretty clearly sock behavior. Since you've done the bureaucratic heavy lifting of filing a check-user, I think it's best to let one look at it. I saw at least one other account that's likely the same farm and may pre-date the others. Dental metaphor incoming: I can fill the cavity, but I suspect the checkuser will be needed to do the root canal. Kuru (talk) 15:56, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much again Kuru for your advice and for taking the time to dig up the additional info about the action at Commons and also the additional sock. Thank you also for the funny metaphor, although, no warning was needed about its incoming introduction. After the block of time, I was almost certain more may be coming. Take care. :) Dr. K. 17:14, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
OK, I have nothing else to offer from a CU perspective, but that's just for the en-wiki of course. Drmies (talk) 01:59, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
@Drmies:, no need. The suspicious older account I was alluding to above was Hughesshots, which you've taken care of. Thank you for the pixie dust. Kuru (talk) 03:35, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Plastic Beach[edit]

Hi. That user is continuing to change genres without discussion or sources when saying "generalizing genres". [1][2] (talk) 15:09, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea what conversation this is following up from. The idiosyncrasies of modern pop genres is something I usually seek to avoid. Kuru (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Mobile payment[edit]

Hello, Kuru. Thanks for pointing out the issue with external links I’ve added to the Mobile payment page. The video I reference was made in collaboration with Discover, while the content about EMV liability shift was created by Visa. I think we can both agree that those are two very credible voices in the payment industry, including on the topic of mobile payment. I believe removing those sources was a mistake, since they are both unbiased and used purely for the purpose of informing general public about recent shifts in the payment industry, which, by extension, is applicable to the subject of mobile payment. The current message above the article asks to "update this article to reflect recent events or newly available information,” and my brief update provides that. Given that circumstance, my edits are appropriate for an encyclopedia. Thank you.​ Payments123 (talk) 18:44, 7 December 2017 (UTC) Payments123

You've linked to a puffy youtube video uploaded by "Transnational" to pitch a product. You then linked to a corporate content marketing blog at "Transnational". You then decided that, somehow, Theroadislong's removal of you material was an invitation to link directly to the pitch page at "Transnational". I'll be more clear: do not add any more material that is not supported directly by third-part sources that meet our threshold for reliable sources. Especially cease adding links to anything to do with "Transnational." Thanks. Kuru (talk) 18:55, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Attack page[edit]

Just thought I'd let you know that I've tagged their userpage for speedy deletion as an attack page. Hastiness (talk) 15:21, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough; I've deleted it. Kuru (talk) 15:23, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Orix Marketing[edit]

Please do guide me to add that information to Wikipedia and I'm sorry you have thought that I'm doing paid contents as I am free mind never want to spam any media.

Please do review it and add that company if you find that is informative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakeer101 (talkcontribs) 14:04, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I do not find it informative. Please stop adding material related to that firm. Kuru (talk) 17:08, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[edit]

The question I am trying to source became the subject of a petition. The statement in the article was that Kyle Kulinski was a Left-Libertarian and it is getting criticized because it was sourced to a youtube video posted by the subject, a primary source. The premise of the petition was that he was the best at representing that point of view . . . obviously meaning he has it as supported by the signators. How do we use that as a source? Trackinfo (talk) 04:56, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

We don't. A user-created petition is not in any way a suitable source for a contested claim on a WP:BLP. Kuru (talk) 05:04, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Ajit Pai[edit]

So, you took my edit of the Ajit Pai page away, please explain why. Nothing untruthful was included. Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OwenWaldorfian (talkcontribs) 21:54, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

I didn't, as it turns out. I agree fully with the reversions. Your edit was garden-variety trolling. 21:58, 26 December 2017 (UTC)


Dear Kuru,

Thank you very much for your remark. I understand your concern regarding a mirror citation from an article in wikipedia published in another language. Information/article from wikipedia published in English is defined by [[ ]]. Unfortunately, a link to unique, reliable article published in German is not recommended. In some cases, however, it is practically impossible to find such a unique (and exact) information in pages published in English. Such a difficult situation occured in two cases: (1) for individuals who passed away several years ago. Thus, the only available information is published in German, e.g. an article about prof. Werner Koster exists in German wikipedia, only. (2) for modest scientists who are still active in the field. Frequently, they do not reveal personal information and it is too early for obituary and/or rememberances. This is why it was considered that an independent information from German widikepia is the best solution.

I would be grateful if you could advice how to obey the general rules and allow a precise/direct citation of unique information available in German wikipedia. In the case of scientists, the number of availabe citations is limited (a scientific paper cannot be cited here).

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions

OmegaMS — Preceding unsigned comment added by OmegaMS (talkcontribs) 12:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Sources in German are perfectly acceptable. Any source German or English must still meet our requirements for reliable sources, however. Using French and German mirrors of Wikipedia is never acceptable. Kuru (talk) 14:19, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your efforts on Policybazaar. Mr RD 17:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. That's a persistent group. Kuru (talk) 12:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

About our recent attempt to update content for Policybazaar Wikipedia Page[edit]

Hi Kuru,

Thanks for your reply!

Actually, I’m a little confused with the disclosure of paid contributors. I do not really understand the procedure. So I was hoping if you could probably point in the right direction.

Earlier, the business model of was focused around providing comparison of insurance quotes and features. Therefore, the older logo was accompanied with a tag line emphasizing more on comparison of insurance products. However, in 2015, the company got licensed by IRDAI (Insurance Regulatory and Development Authority of India) to conduct online transactions. So we had to make major change in our company’s logo. The new tagline in the logo focuses more on comparison of insurance quotes, direct buying access and the eventual savings associated. Our older page features the old logo and I was expecting if we could get that changed because few of our customers have already pointed this out.

I look forward to hearing back from you soon.

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by VidushiDubey (talkcontribs) 16:55, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I left you a link on your talk page: WP:PAID. That page has the information you need, specifically in the "How to disclose" section. I would strongly suggest that you avoid editing the article directly and put suggestions, such as the one above, on the article's talk page. Kuru (talk) 17:34, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

About 'Rishu' article[edit]

Hello! Well, I am the creator of 'Rishu' article. I created this article after collecting resources from various places and I am still pursuing my research on this article. I will, in a short period of time, definitely add more resourceful content to this article for making it more accessible to the readers. For making it more reliable, I added relevant references to the article, but I noticed that you deleted both of my references and you know that without any effective source, the article becomes more prone to be deleted by any other reviewer. So, I just want to know the reason of your deletion of my references and till then I am again introducing those references to my article. Rishu Shukla (talk) 16:49, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

The reason was given clearly in the edit summary. You may not use mirrors of our content to source articles here. This is covered at WP:CIRCULAR. In this instance, both of the mirrors very clears identify their content as copied from here; please do not restore those references. Kuru (talk) 18:07, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


Dear Kuru, We have just modified an incorrect reference from German wikipedia (wikiwand) indicated in your notice; translation of the title into English is appended. Hope that corrected version fulfills official requirements. In the case of further details let me know how to put such an important information/reference in a perfect format. The article has arrived to quite an advanced level. References are extremely carefully selected. Time is still needed to find a few missing pieces of information. Thank you very much for carefull analysis of this article, I remain, Andrew3789 (talk) 18:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

We cannot use Wikiwand or any other wikipedia as a reference. Please stop adding that link. Kuru (talk) 20:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

users Lidiia Kondratieva and Lyupant[edit]

Hi Kuru. I was hoping you might have some suggestions on what to do with Lidiia Kondratieva (talk · contribs) and Lyupant (talk · contribs)

You've encountered them a few times now [3] [4] [5]

As you've seen, they repeatedly use very poor sources in BLPs.

I'd be extremely surprised if this wasn't paid editing, given the choice of articles and type of editing.

Their interactions look more like meatpuppetry than sockpuppetry, given that they sometimes are both editing at the same time.

Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2018_January_14#sources demonstrates there's at least some recognition that the sources may be inappropriate from Lidiia Kondratieva.

My attempts to get some response from Lidiia Kondratieva have resulted in reverts of my comments. [6]. --Ronz (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

That's really odd. They're asking if the New York Times is a RS, but they're okay with "famousbirthdays" and all those other trash content aggregation sites? I think this is a situation where if your English isn't very strong and someone pushes you to source something, you're likely to just grab the first google hit that matches your source string. Be it a really obvious mirror or one of those "celebritynetworth" crap sites. If that's the case then I'm very concerned about some of the long coherent text additions to BLPs that are likely copyvios - they were tagged for that at least once before. Will dig through it in more detail tonight when I get a few free moments. Kuru (talk) 20:12, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
The "really odd" continues. Looks to me like paid editing with pressure to do quick-and-dirty work. I don't think these editors should be working on BLPs at this point. While they are occassionally seeking help, I don't think either has the time to do what's required of BLP articles. Did you look into it any further? --Ronz (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Template:Ping:Ronz Yes; all the red flags are there, but I can't find the smoking gun. I spent some time on odesk and others looking for matching wikipedia gigs, but didn't fins a correlation. Found several other articles to watchlist, but nothing on the expected keywords - like "Heyhoe cookprint" or whatever. Still watching, but it still feels like AGF territory. Kuru (talk) 02:56, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. Any suggestions on how to kindly nudge them toward getting a mentor or working through some tutorials? --Ronz (talk) 03:21, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I thought I'd let you know about some recent encounters I've had with both. Let me know if it is a bother to you, as I'm already looking for where to turn to next.

I'm still coming across Lyupant's edits in my searches for unreliable sources in BLPs. I've left a warning on Lyupant's talk page. This situation feels bit strange, still like paid editing, but there's no evidence. I'm not sure where to take it next.

Lidiia Kondratieva seems to be following in the path of the many editors that have tried to make Naveen Jain a battleground. If this isn't paid editing, I'd be extremely surprised, but there's no evidence beyond the behavior and choice of articles. I've made an attempt to work something out at User_talk:Lidiia_Kondratieva#Talk:Naveen_Jain, but it may already be past time to seek outside help. --Ronz (talk) 22:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I'll take a look again. I think my radar dropped when they started adding biographies of dead people and historical figures.

COIN discussion started, initially only about Lidiia, Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Just_odd, though I'm seeing further promotional editing from Lyupant, who's continuing to find articles with past ODesk paid editing problems. --Ronz (talk) 17:04, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

unblock crazybob2014[edit]

Crazybob2014 hasnt vandaled some things, he was trying to help make the wiki better. he didnt want this block to effect him a lot. please unblock him and give him another chance. (talk) 14:40, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

You'll need to log in to your account and make a competent unblock request through UTRS. Block evasion and referring to yourself in the third person does not help. Kuru (talk) 15:26, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Key Performance Indicator[edit]

Hi Kuru,

Thanks for your advice. However, I am aware of everything you have said. The article has required a citation at that point for some time now and having written an e-book on the subject I felt the link would provide the right level of additional information. Please let me know how you think the reference should be included. CliveKeyte (talk) 16:39, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Clive Keyte

@CliveKeyte: Since you're familiar with the genre, supplying reliable published third-party sources would be best. The link to your self-published material does not suffice, and the pitch for your book and services there put the link in a gray area. If you feel the material cannot be sourced otherwise, then it may be best to remove it. Kuru (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

11 years of adminship[edit]

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Wishing Kuru a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 00:05, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

new article[edit]

Kuru Hey this is muskanjain. I have created my first draft of Mr. Rohit KaduDeshmukh. He is a star kid. As I told, I am working on star kids' articles and I have a list of few of them. So this is the first one! I have added few references. Pls Check the article and help me so that it won't get declined! For me my first article is imp, as it will encourage me to work over more on other articles too! Link to the draft is; pls go through the draft. Awaiting reply Muskanjain (talk) 14:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)muskanjain

I would pay better attention to your sourcing. Most of the references are to very low quality self-published rags. I don't think starsunfolded, celebrityborn, or justbollywood are going to meet our rather strict requirements for biographies of living persons, especially if they're "kids." Kuru (talk) 14:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


Dear Kuru.

Please accept my apologies if the links I added seemed inappropriate. I added those links because I believe they add value to the page and, maybe, I had misread some of the guidelines as to the editing procedure.

Just for the sake of clarity for the future, as promotion is not allowed on Wikipedia can you please explain why on your Telemarketing page, citation 4 which clearly has a promotional purpose (linking to a private enterprise) was allowed? Am I missing something?

I would value your feedback on this.

Kind regards


Gbaggiani (talk) 10:57, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Your additions were in no way a reliable source by our standards and you have a massive conflict of interest. Frankly, that was pretty blatant content marketing run and you were well aware of what you were doing. If you see other links you feel are inappropriate, feel free to remove them and/or replace them with actual reliable sources - since you're here to contribute to the encyclopedia and not just execute your marketing gig, right? Kuru (talk) 12:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Range block[edit]

You beat me to it! Doug Weller talk 15:56, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, not surprised to find there was a recent range block and a long list of vandalism. Kuru (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


See Waybelowzero. Pining Berean Hunter. Sro23 (talk) 00:17, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the ping. Waybelowzero is confirmed. Also, 27pc is  Confirmed to Sirenofthesea.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 13:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Diff in case there is doubt.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 13:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for your hard work! M.N.G. (talk) 15:37, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Project refs[edit]

Hello Kuru Links that I have added to the wikipedia are comming from my website I am the owner of this website and I have written the articles there. Can you please explain me the mistakes that I have made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alisamig (talkcontribs) 13:51, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

I've left you detailed information on your talk page. Please do not add any more links to your blog. Kuru (talk) 13:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear. I've gone cross-eyed[edit]

Hey, what does "OpenVPN is also running on 443 and 500" mean?--Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:10, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

I ran a port scan on the IP last night; there were six or seven open ports and two of them (443 & 500) self-identified as OpenVPN; 443 is usually used for SSL connections (like Wikipedia). They're all closed this morning. Kuru (talk) 11:35, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Business intelligence[edit]

Hello Kuru, I saw you'd made a small edit to the Business intelligence article about a week ago. I've just posted a request to add some example companies within the Marketplace section on the page. Full disclosure: I am working with one of the companies that I'm seeking to include, so I won't edit directly. The request is here. Would you mind considering this change? Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Replied there.Kuru (talk) 00:10, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks. While not the answer I hoped for, but I appreciate the considered response. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 13:44, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Venkatagiri Raja High School Wiki Changes[edit]

@Kuru: @Editor 1: The information which I added in page Venkatagiri Raja High School ‎ is from the school library series Sowvenir written on Centernary Celebrations 1976-77 and this do not have any online references. I got this information from the one of the school alumni. Even though the school is of 175 years old but unfortunately it do not have much information online. This is the problem for many of the primary educational institutions in India and hence they pose a notability or a reliability problems while posting them into Wikipedia. I found few websites online where they talk little about the school. Hence I request you consider this issue and keep the content provided as genuine. If not please guide me how to proceed further in situations like this. This is a very old school hence it would be nice to keep the history of this school known to public. Shankar1242 (talk) 08:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@Shankar1242: Cite every line you add to the material you acquired it from. Do not use Wikipedia mirrors as sources - "enacademic" and "" are clearly identified as mirrors that copy their material from us and obviously cannot be used as a source. Avoid nonsense commentary like "people used to call the school with love". It may be best to propose additions on the article's talk page before making any other changes to the articles. Kuru (talk) 11:05, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru: @Editor 1: I am not able to understand fully about the mirror issues. Kindly request you to make few changes to the article and load accordingly for the standards that will be acceptable. I know that you do not have sources for this article but go through the stuff and avoid any sentences that do not fit. I need your help to publish this article without causing any issues. It's a very old school and many notable persons were studied in this school.

I'm not sure how to explain it better than I did above and on your talk page. I see you've started a conversation on the article's talk page. I'll respond there. Kuru (talk) 13:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru: @Editor 1: I have added new content via Wiki Draft Talk. Removed the mirror issues and added new sources of reference. Please help to publish this as an article. I am not keen in pushing but I am trying to avoid my mistakes and post only the genuine content for this. And I do not have any personal interest on this. Kindly help me.

Shankar1242 (talk) 11:51, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

There's an existing draft at Draft:Venkatagiri Raja High School. Kuru (talk) 11:56, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru: @Editor 1: Kuru- I saw the draft edition and it looks good. Could you please let me know the timeline for this to post from Draft to the main page. It's been a while this issue is pending. Need your help to push this fast. Keep me the estimated timeline for this. Shankar1242 (talk) 04:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

As noted, the material will need to be sourced. I'll also need to finish going through it to fix the english and remove some of the puffery. I'm not on a timetable and there is not a rush. Kuru (talk) 11:58, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru: @Editor 1: In the last few weeks, I have updated many reliable sources for much of the content and removed any notability issues or words which are fancy and removed any fulsome remarks. I am sharing with you the school souvenir which I do not have any digital copy for this. I thought of sharing this with you for your verification. I hope this information can be treated as a reliable source? I can understand that you do not have any timetable to move this draft into an article, but it would be appreciated if we can fix the issues fast. Shankar1242 (talk) 05:03, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

@Shankar1242: I've further edited the material and moved it back to the non-draft page. I've not had the chance to read through the sources, but will do so as time permits. As long as the english is there and some sources are present, it should be good for a start. Kuru (talk) 03:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru: @Editor 1: Thanks Kuru for moving this to the main page. For adding the photos from the Souvenir into wikicommon, do I need to get any approvals from the school? Guide me when your time permits.Please feel free to make any changes to the article after you go through the souvenir.Really appreciate all your patience and guidance to you and your team. You guys are makes a difference. Shankar1242 (talk) 05:46, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[edit]

This IP ( is the same as, which you just blocked. Could you block this IP also? Thanks. (talk) 21:37, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Kuru (talk) 21:42, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Why am I suddenly being blocked?[edit]

I have been suddenly blocked from various site locations and no reasons given. I don't understand. I'm not a hacker nor person with ill intent. All of it mysteriously done on same date with apparently, many many users under my IP address. My firm belief is this has been done as a result of interaction with the website known as Literotica. I did not knowingly engage in any disputes or arguments, but merely pointed out some questionable behavior as have many others.

I'm unfamiliar with internet speak or whatever it is you call it and this computer has also been plagued with many viruses as a result of contact with that website known as Anything that can be done to assist me would be greatly appreciated.

I stumbled upon this part of Wikipedia by chance as I was looking up info about my area. Thank you for any assistance you can offer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea. All I can tell you is that there is no direct block on the IP you are editing from. Kuru (talk) 11:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Business financing advisor[edit]


I saw that you deleted the Business Financing Advisor Page that I uploaded, and I would like to talk to you about how I can edit the page so that it better fits into Wikipedia's guidelines, instead of deleting it altogether. Also, I am not being compensated for writing this whatsoever.

The term "business financing advisor" is a new job description that hasn't been covered yet on Wikipedia, and is NOT exclusive to National Business Capital - it is a term that includes the employees of many alternative lending companies, and needs to be differentiated from other similar sounding financial professions.

I think it's definitely worth talking about, especially how it's contributing to the field of alternative financing for businesses.

Please contact me so we can discuss why I think this is an important new term to document, and how I can make the page more in-line with wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you for your time!

-David Surrusco — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Surrusco (talkcontribs) 21:43, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

David, before addressing the other problems, are you currently employed by National Business Capital, and, if so, in what capacity? Kuru (talk) 22:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru:: Thanks for getting back to me so soon. I'm a freelance writer, and had some temporary gigs working for National Business Capital- however, I am not receiving compensation for writing the Business financing advisor page. Learning about the emerging occupation of "business financing advisor" is something I picked up while working for them, and I've been wanting to be a working contributor for wikipedia for some time now, so my reason for writing this up really comes from wanting to practice posting my own articles. I wanted to write about something that I know a lot about, based on experience, and something that wikipedia does not have content for yet. I thought this new job description would be a good addition to the field of alternative lending, which Wikipedia seems to be lacking in. The job description is different than any other financial occupation already documented, so I thought it would be worth a mention.

I worked for a REALLY long time on this, so I would really appreciate it if you could at least give me some pointers on how to fix it, because I'm really proud of what I did. Thanks again, and I hope to hear from you soon. -David Surrusco March 12, 2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Surrusco (talkcontribs) 14:37, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

David, this response does not match publicly available information. Please do not add any further promotional SEO content for National Business Capital until you have made the proper disclosures mandated by our terms of use. While I appreciate the company's attempts at brand differentiation, silly attempts to re-brand common job titles like "sandwich artist" and "innovation shepra" are just neologisms. Unless there is significant and detailed coverage in third-party reliable sources that you've been holding back on, please do not add the material again. If you're seriously here to help, there are thousands of finance and business-related topics and pages that you could improve - I would suggest editing in places that you do not have a conflict-of-interest. Kuru (talk) 15:02, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Dangote Group[edit]

Hello there - I'm trying to edit Dangote Group. If you have any issues with the content please let me know, so that we can discuss it, without completely wiping my changes away. Thank you. Lesliestng (talk) 11:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

I cannot leave material that you've blatantly copied from copyrighted sources in the article. Please do not do that again. Kuru (talk) 11:43, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the unblock! Apologies again. Lesliestng (talk) 12:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png The Barnstar of Diligence
:) Moana122 (talk) 07:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Blocked user[edit]

Hello Kuru, I noted that recently you have blocked Luckyulinga, pls look into the Luckynagaram because I think both are same person. Warm Regards, ZI Jony (talk) 16:28, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

ZI Jony, that clearly seems to be the case. Also noticed the prior account Mike dichen (talk · contribs) while looking through the diffs. Thanks for spotting that! Kuru (talk) 16:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Could you please give me direct links to report like this cases also requested to review my account if can get IP-block-exempt right or your suggestion please. Warm Regards, ZI Jony (talk) 19:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
You can report really obvious socks to WP:AIV - I probably would have blocked that one if I had no prior expose to his antics and saw your report. If it's complex; that is, he's not obviously the same, you can put together a request at WP:SPI. For the IP block exemption, the best best is probably to file a request with WP:UTRS and a checkuser can help you. They've been pretty stingy with it lately; you'll need a good reason for it. Kuru (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Warm Regards, ZI Jony (talk) 01:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Kuru[edit]

Thank you for your patience, I just tried — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:17, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

lonsdale belt[edit]

Thanks for spotting that the Alchetron reference I used was a Wikipedia mirror. Silly miss by me 🤦🏻‍♂️ Okeeffemarc (talk) 23:11, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Not a problem; happens a lot. Kuru (talk) 04:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Tim Duncan[edit]

Why did you remove Tim Duncan’s 2007 ejection from the game? MissTofATX (talk) 12:32, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

As noted in my edit summary, there is no need for an independent "controversy" section for every technical a player receives. The only thing notable about this was Crawford's silly remarks and that has nothing to do with Duncan. If you still think it's notable, work something into the existing narrative sections and make sure you provide sources. Kuru (talk) 12:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Revision to KCB wiki article?[edit]

Ref your recent revision to :

"Revision as of 23:49, 27 April 2018 Kuru (talk | contribs) (rmv non-WP:RS : self-published content)"

Not arguing at all but wondering about the categorization of the source as self-published content. On the face of it Prabook claims to be an "online open-content collaborative biographical encyclopedia of people." This seems innocuous enough (and actually similar in concept to wikipedia :) ).

Wikispooks (perhaps a dubious source itself) says "Prabook is a largely machine generated encylopedia of personal information, harvested from publicly available sources such as national registries. It also allows edits from users, including anonymous ones."

Is there some history about this cite that I am unaware of?

Cascade effect of your edit was a robot flagging the three statements that were previously linked to the prabook entry as needing citations:

"Latest revision as of 00:09, 28 April 2018 AnomieBOT (talk | contribs) m (Dating maintenance tags: [citation needed])"

I originally found these three statements about Una Kai on the KCB 60th Anniversary timeline ( I could have cited this article directly but I was looking for an online "independent" secondary or tertiary source. Worst case is I can take the (five minute) trip down to the KCB Archives and find the original records the KCB staff used to create the timeline. It will be accurate but not available online...

Regards Ontomeister (talk) 16:29, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Some prior discussions at RSN:[7], [8], [9]
Here's the blurb from their FAQ supporting self-publishing: "The web-interface of Prabook allows people to contribute, by providing information on a person, whose profile already exists in the database, or by creating an entirely new profile. As you create a profile in Prabook, note that it will not be publicly available until you press the PUBLISH button! Therefore, even after you click the SAVE button, the article will only be available in the MY PRABOOK section, not displayed to anyone else. Only after you press the PUBLISH button will the profile be available for viewing by anyone online and on search engines." The big "edit profile" link is also a warning sign.
There is no hint of secondary editorial controls, and sources were included very, very rarely in the material I've reviewed. If there are sources - you should verify and include those directly, but this is essentially just an open wiki. It originally came to my attention when some of their "profiles" were actually copied from Wikipedia and then later used as a circular source. Kuru (talk) 16:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks! Off to the archives!! Ontomeister (talk) 16:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

No problem; thanks for trying to find secondary sources. They can be a minefield at times. Kuru (talk) 17:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Finally got over to the KCB Archives this morning. Found a bio sheet, press release, and a newspaper clipping that covered the three statements about Una Kai in the KCB wikipedia article. Added new citations to the article, we should be good to go! Thanks again! Ontomeister (talk) 16:43, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Alex Melen[edit]

Hey Kuru - Thank you for the edit on the page removing the unreliable source for the age of Alex Melen. I just found another, better, source for the age. Can you please take a look? If it's still not sufficient, feel free to remove. Thank you again for taking the time to review the page. I've been working on making it better, so any other feedback or edits that you could make would be greatly appreciated! ITGuru (talk) 16:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


content was deleted that isn't as relevant to the company and not listed in similar companies pages that have the exact same issues.

Takencareof (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I would encourage you to start a discussion on the article's talk page: here. It sounds like you feel there is an issue with WP:UNDUE weight being given to critical pieces used in the article. You can also challenge the quality of the sources; for example, the original research related to the BB was clearly not appropriate. I'd be happy to look though it when I get more time and evaluate the material more critically, but you can help by illustrating your issues. Kuru (talk) 14:54, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


Good eye! --JustBerry (talk) 04:51, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

editing MapmyIndia wikipage[edit]

Hi Kuru

I would like to make edits to MapmyIndia Wikipedia page. I have done it twice but it keeps getting rejected.. is it possible I share the write up with you before with citations and then upload it.. it is very important that make the edits

Please do help

Regards Manpreet Sukhija (talk) 04:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) Manpreet Sukhija

@Manpreet Sukhija: The addition is, frankly speaking, completely unacceptable. Unabashed puffery like "the most comprehensive, accurate, robust and reliable" or "unmatched comprehensive, detailed and highly nuanced" has absolutely no place here. The rest of the material seems like simple adcopy placed to promote the firm. You will also need to immediately comply with our terms of use, specially the part about paid editors before making any other edits. Kuru (talk) 11:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Kuru we are working on it as suggested by you and will take your help to make the changes. Can you please tell me more about paid editor? Manpreet Sukhija (talk) 11:22, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Clicking on the link above takes you to Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Your usage of the word "we" and your blatantly promotional edits indicate that you are an employee of the firm. Kuru (talk) 14:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Saying my editing is disruptive and you warned me[edit]

Hello Kuru, i am confused on your comment, i would like to know what i did wrong Shirodahacker (talk) (talk) also i would really appreciate it if you enlighten me on how to make the article have zero issues, thanks Shirodahacker (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:23, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't even know where to start. Please read WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. If you still think that material like "An experienced software expert with critical thinking abilities and sound mind who loves political debates. An accomplished public speaker, often regarded as an Orator per Excellence" and all the other crazy puffery still aligns with those links, then it may be best to avoid editing here. Kuru (talk) 14:51, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you show me the parts i need to remove for me to put it back up ?[edit]

I really need to edit it, it is crucial and i would adhere to the wikipedia rules, i would really appreciate it if you show me the content i need to remove. Thank you in advance.

Log conflict[edit]

Sorry, it appears we had a log conflict of sorts, and I accidentally unhid your revdel. I'll check in a sec and fix if you haven't yet. Killiondude (talk) 23:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Happens - I'm sure several admins zoned in on that one. Kuru (talk) 23:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Requesting for Business to be Listed[edit]

Hi, I saw your compilation list of Hong Kong companies on different services provided.

There are a lot of companies about Food and Beverage, Restaurants, Transport, Airlines, Hotels, etc. but I haven't seen any moving company or service provider. Would you want to update your list and add moving services for your viewers to see? I may you send our company information. We are an active moving company based in Hong Kong and has dealt with various clients already. This may add additional value and deliver more information to your future readers.

I hope we can arrange this proposal for your article list.

Thank you!

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by CameronB18 (talkcontribs) 01:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi its about my last edit !![edit]

Dear Sir,

i added discount online broker comparison page link because i felt that wiki dont have any link who will guide about india's discount online brokerage comparison if you think its appropriate pls update else allow me to explain further...

Thanks Gunjan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunjanchokshi (talkcontribs) 07:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

No thank you. It appears to be a low-quality, promotional blog post. Kuru (talk) 11:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


Hello, You edited my update to this page I was expecting this to happen and I am not too bothered about the external link, I just wanted to include a logical reference to our brand page as the company has been referred to as "pocket-lint" since 2003. If you search Google currently you'll see us references with a link to Wikipedia which is confusing and inaccurate. Any support with this is appreciated. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrianwillingspocketlint (talkcontribs) 12:23, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I cannot help you with Google search results. With all due respect to your marketing team, branding your product after an unrelated common noun is going to present challenges. Kuru (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


Is that a true shortener? If so, it should be on mete. —Dirk Beetstra T C 13:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, brands itself as the "URL shortener for savvy marketers." Used abusively on a high-traffic page here as a redirect to blatant spam. No objections to removing it locally if it's added at meta. Kuru (talk) 13:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Please just report it there, I will pull the trigger (same script). —Dirk Beetstra T C 13:53, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Sure, give me a sec; not super familiar with meta. Kuru (talk) 13:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Did I ever introduce you to COIBot? See m:User:COIBot/LinkReports/ … —Dirk Beetstra T C 17:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

@Beetstra: I've run across the reports a few times before, usually when hard searching on a URL - they are amazingly helpful. I can see that shortener was only used in two spam runs; the Indian IP ranges today/yesterday, and that probably paid editor at Jason Carthen I cleaned up earlier. Is the only way to trigger a COIBot report through IRC? Kuru (talk) 02:01, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
No, it triggers through reporting a LinkSummary template to WT:SBL (clear likely blacklistable spam), WT:WPSPAM (record for future), meta spam blacklist talk (clear crosswiki problem), or by poking at User:COIBot/Poke (just interest or to decide what your next step is, or for refreshing the report to see if spamming continued). One problem with spam fighting is that you sometimes don’t see it because a lot is already cleaned and you don’t know that it was abused before. —Dirk Beetstra T C 03:49, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Bank telephone numbers[edit]

Got another one - Special:Contributions/ Pinkbeast (talk) 09:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. No viable range block yet; may have to draw up an edit filter if he keeps that up. Kuru (talk) 10:58, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
And an actual account this time, I see. I wonder if this is a well-meaning idiot, or if the phone numbers are fraudulent? Pinkbeast (talk) 02:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Pinkbeast: Looks like pretty nasty fraud - they're pretending to be customer service, then cleaning out bank accounts. See [10]. The numbers don't vary much, can probably set up an edit filter. Not sure about blocking the range yet, still pretty big. I don't like blocking large or busy ranges, but this is a case for it. Kuru (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
I suppose that was inevitable. Wonder if we'll start getting it on banks in other countries? Pinkbeast (talk) 16:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

You probably know, but it's back again at eg State Bank of India. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Yup. I was hoping they would just move on. Still really can't block that range - it would take out most of northern India. I'll draft a filter. Kuru (talk) 01:14, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
@Pinkbeast: Okay, created filter 927 and seeded it with the most recent phone numbers. Was thinking about running it over the weekend passively and seeing if it picks up any false positives, then make it prevent those edits. Will go through the history and see if there are other numbers as well. Kuru (talk) 01:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Back again at Axis Bank, I regret to say. Pinkbeast (talk) 09:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

@Pinkbeast: Got it; they're using a new number. I've adjusted filter 793 to pick it up. Kuru (talk) 11:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
And another. Let's hope this doesn't mean filtering every telephone number in India. Suggest semi-protection?
Also, presumably at some point bad guys will be doing this to every bank in the world. Pinkbeast (talk) 13:34, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, that's my concern as well - that they'll just start spreading. The article currently has pending changes protection, so the fraud numbers will not see the public-facing article. The edit filter trapped 28 attempts to add the previous numbers, then the switch to the new number. I'll add the new number, but if it's frictionless to get new numbers, that solution will be of limited use. Looks like every single IP locates to Patna; will look at maybe some limited range blocks, maybe. Last time I looked, there was a lot of collateral. Kuru (talk) 14:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I missed the pending changes protection, sorry. Re the spread, Special:Contributions/ is not going to fill you with joy. Pinkbeast (talk) 03:07, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Lovely. Whole different part of northern india as well. Added those to the filter. Kuru (talk) 04:12, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

More spamming[edit]

Look what I just ran into: [11]. There's a wealth of URL spamming in there; maybe you and your clever colleagues can do something about it? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:04, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I know that one! (see deleted edits). He's been abusing URL shorteners recently, but dropping them in just like that (hyperlinking an entire article or paragraph). Is that related to the other discussion? That would blow my mind. Kuru (talk) 04:09, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Nope, ran into it in Recent changes just after I hung up on you. And since then I've been dealing with socks of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/WhenDatHotlineBling. And did you know Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Spam Reverting Vandal? I may have set a personal record for CU and range blocks tonight. I work harder than Mitch McConnell! Drmies (talk) 04:14, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Aw, I was hoping for the Grand Unifying Spammer Theory to pan out. Thank you for all the pixie-dust; I'll mop up around the edges tomorrow and see if I can get a list of all of those links together. Usually links to abandoned or unmoderated forums with spam links in posts. Kuru (talk) 04:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Sorry. They're all starting to look the same. I thought that Hotline was Nsmutte. Good thing they keep me on a tight leash. Kuru, I'm closing the pixie shop for tonight--thanks for all your help. Drmies (talk) 04:21, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Bang Bang Club[edit]

Hello Kuru - I revertet, because I am the writer of the sentences - but not banned. I worked on this article - I own the book so I wrote this prases. I prefer to diskuss this and not start anythings. At this time I'm 150 % working in RL at some projects, so I can only start again in Dezember to do more - to make the article better. Missing references I adding in some weeks. best. --Maxim Pouska (talk) 18:48, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

You are free to take ownership of the banned editors changes. Kuru (talk) 20:17, 30 June 2018 (UTC)


I was thinking of collecting a list of wikiclones, but you already beat me to it.

I think it's quite useful. Would you mind moving it out of userspace? Of would you prefer it if I copy information from your list and maintain something myself? Mashpedia,, and are not on your list. For information about Everipedia attribution you might want to link c:Commons:Everipedia#Attribution. Alexis Jazz (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: I'm just using it as a scratch pad to occasionally remove instances where these are used as a reference in a live or draftspace article; you're more than welcome to copy and/or alter as you see fit. Thanks for the head's up on those new ones. I'll dig into them when I get time.
I appreciate that Everipedia is attempting to correct the image attribution issue. Most mirrors mess that up somehow. Unfortunately, I can still see articles where the attribution is still completely missing: for example Trinity River is still missing attribution on the watershed image I created. Hopefully they can get that sorted out before they monetize - having deep pockets is going to be a real problem if they have blatant copyright violations in their core material. They've had some glitches in the past where the article attribution dropped; they were pretty responsive in fixing that, so I assume they care about the problem. Kuru (talk) 22:45, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Did you read the rest of my Commons essay? 30 million dollars. (and something about jars of urine) I don't appreciate Everipedia very much, and I'm not alone.. IIRC they had attribution in their image viewer (when you click an image in the image gallery) and IIRC the image viewer was also launched in the past when clicking an image where it originally appears in the article. This is no longer the case though, the image viewer can now only be launched from the gallery and it no longer shows attribution. The only "attribution" now is that ludicrously small blue info icon that I pointed ludicrously big red arrows at. Alexis Jazz (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
I read it; by monetize, I meant execute a viable business model. While I'm sure they have a very exciting all-caps blockchain pitch for investors, I just don't see how they're planning on putting together a real content model to build out anything original. They seem to be bragging about being the biggest encyclopedia, which seems daft on its face. The vast majority of the articles, as noted, are licensed from here. Other mirrors do the same and license from other sources as well, making them far larger in count. I'm sure they have some plan, it just seems pretty haphazard so far. Then again what do I know. I thought a chain of massive 120-pump non-commercial gas stations insane, now it's a religion in Texas. Kuru (talk) 02:39, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm sure they have some plan. Not sure if anyone who isn't high could understand it, but I'm sure they have some plan. FYI, I just started c:Commons:Commons clones. I plan to focus more on images/media there. Alchetron for example has fine attribution for article text, but none for images. Alexis Jazz (talk) 11:20, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Here's another one: Also available in Dutch: They use GFDL with invariant sections (=evil) and by default no Creative Commons. Alexis Jazz (talk) 08:44, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
I've added it to my list - thanks! Kuru (talk) 14:07, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Undeletion of Swarda Thigale[edit]

Sir as I created the page for Swarda Thigale, I added few sources and as it was still night time I went to sleep and woke up just to realize that all my hard work has gone in vain. So I request you to undelete the page so that I can add resources and citations as well as some more information as the editing work isn't yet completed and I guess I need to be given time to edit the article to the extent as I can. Anonymousaa (talk) 00:10, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I can move it into the WP:DRAFTS area, if you'd like. You can have all the time you need there to work on it; it can be moved back into the encyclopedia when you've addressed the problems identified in the AFD. Kuru (talk) 01:47, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Yeah sure. I would be glad as I want to make my article perfect and complete before it comes into web as public. Anonymousaa (talk) 04:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Done; the draft is at Draft:Swarda Thigale. Please carefully read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swarda Thigale and address the concerns raised there. You will need to provide significant and reliable sources for the article, not just directory listings and passing mentions. Kuru (talk) 12:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot sir.I got the article in the draft and have tried to improve the article. I would be glad if you checked the page and informed if there are further places left out to improve. If the sources are reliable enough please move it to the main page then. Anonymousaa (talk) 16:31, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Colorstv, marathistars, and bollywoodlife are directory/trivial listings. Starsunfolded and biographia are not reliable sources. Tellychakkar looks better; it at least claims some amount of editorial oversight but seems like a tabloid. Unfortunately, the article just seems to be a puff piece about her character, and the only factual data there is where she "hails from." Really, this is a biography and needs solid sourcing for everything, especially since it was recently deleted through a formal process for just this problem. Kuru (talk) 02:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Why is it spam?[edit]

Sir Why is this "" not spam? Why is it just mentioning EMC2 is an executive MBA in EMC2 page a spam?

It is very important people engage in meaningful editions of wikipedia. Not leaving it to insufficient understanding. So just want to understand in what way am I creating spam.

Thank you Sir Warm Regards Anuradha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuradha Thota (talkcontribs) 09:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

You seem to be asking two questions, one related to your deleted article, and one related to your repeated addition of an external link to the EMC2 disambiguation page. Your article was simple adcopy promoting your business/entity. Material such as "helps each of the executives to reach their best career option", "Throughout the year our office sponsors", "Our major workshops offer students the opportunity to network with some of the top companies", and "The program comprises of acclaimed academic staff" is in no way compliant with our policy on WP:NPOV. It was simple puffery written with first-person indicators of a conflict of interest. The link to your pitch page was removed for similar reasons; disambiguation lists are designed for assisting in internal navigation. It is not a directory of promotional links to drive traffic. Please consider an ethical approach to marketing. Kuru (talk) 11:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you foe letting me know. Can you please suggest how i can mention about emc2 in EMC2 page without sounding like promotion. I have no interest to drive traffic to the site. Because this program is on premise and Government driven. It is not global. Only people where Government can reach will attend. And our approaches are not online. All potential students are accessible to the Government. We just need to mention the existence of entity in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuradha Thota (talkcontribs) 04:08, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

You don't need to. Kuru (talk) 11:42, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh!! The need is for me and for people in my area called Hyderabad. When they search for emc2 Wiki can actually help them find. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuradha Thota (talkcontribs) 13:51, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


Hi Kuru,

Need an update on the below mentioned link. The page hasnt been published yet. Any reason why it hasnt.


Regards Ajserrao28 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajserrao28 (talkcontribs) 09:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

You can submit it following the instructions at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Kuru (talk) 11:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)



Just FYI I closed the appeal for you :)--5 albert square (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Kuru (talk) 12:00, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

re: Judith Tanur[edit]

hi kuru, thanks for looking at this page. re your edit of my contribution to Judith Tanur, can i suggest you don't keep the NYTimes birth announcement citation if you think one reference for birth info is enough? the NYTimes does not actually list Judith by name, but it still seemed more of a reputable source than Prabook, which is why I included both. keeping my other citation from Prabook might be better if one reference is preferred. If you agree, please change.

thanks! Jenuphoto (talk) 17:07, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kuru, any thoughts on the above? thanks,Jenuphoto (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't have access to the other citation to evaluate it. The other citation is from a known unreliable source, and we can't use it. If you feel both are not usable, then feel free to remove. Kuru (talk) 22:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Stepford Wives[edit]

You reverted one of my edits. Here:

This film has a very bad wrap. I know for a fact that the workprint version of the film has come to be widely accepted and does not contain plot holes like the final film does. I guess you were unhappy with my source. So how do I get my edit to stay when I know it to be true and when it's an important element to that film's history? Daleylife (talk) 22:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

If it's important, then it will have been covered in reliable sources. I'm afraid a forum post does not meet this threshold. Kuru (talk) 00:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Link addition disapproved[edit]

Please let me know why the repair to dead link was disapproved. There are many personal website/blog citation exist on the wikipedia. The link which was disapproved was exact copy of previous link. Further you created the spam link attached to website . The link to which change was made is this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhatanagarntn (talkcontribs) 11:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Your personal blog does not, in any way, meet our criteria for WP:RS. If you've copied material without permission and then linked to it, that contravenes or policy on linking to copyright violations. Please do not add your blog again. Kuru (talk) 13:32, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Kuru for your prompt reply, though your reply is not justified as I can share with you many links which are pertaining to personal blog. When i said it was copy of dead link , it does not mean it was copied. It means It was covering all the point for which citation was done. Anyhow, you are admin and you have full right to approve or disapprove the link. My only submission is don't try to justify based on rules which are biased, i mean which are on your wish to make applicable or not. If personal blog was the only thing to disapprove the link, then you should remove all the personal site links. Ball is in your court Mr. Kuru, either delete all personal website links from Wikipedia or approve this link also. --Bhatanagarntn (talk) 14:12, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Sure, sport. Kuru (talk) 14:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
User:Bhatanagarntn That is not how Wikipedia works, I will agree many personal blog links do need to be deleted, many personal blog links are from professionals which can be considered RS. You are pushing a SPAM link which is contrary to Wikipedia's guidelines. You don't get to dictate if your personal spam link is deleted then every other blog link must be deleted by the individual who deleted your. --VVikingTalkEdits 14:17, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Dear VViking User:Viewmont Viking It's not dictating someone, wikipedia is place where all are equal, it was just a request. I also request you not to divert the topic by misleading the conversation. The topic for discussion is whether that was useful link of SPAM(as declared by you - it's your perception). If i see like you then jumping in between the conversation between me and User:Kuru is also SPAM. Further you mentioned that many personal blog links are from professionals which can be considered RS. I request you to let me know what's your definition of professionals? You have just mentioned professionals...and definition of professionals will differ from person to person. I just want to understand your version of professionals. I hope you wont get annoyed. It's just healthy discussion, so that things get clearer and we learn to accept the truth. Bhatanagarntn (talk) 04:16, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Bhatanagarntn, your amateur blog is not in any way a reliable source. If you continue to attempt to promote your site on Wikipedia, you will be blocked and the site potentially blacklisted. I don't have anything further to add. Kuru (talk) 11:07, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Promotional content?[edit]

I would like to bring to your attention that there appears to be some form of promotional content at the bottom of this page: I was just going to remove it, but I figured I should report it to you instead (You showed up on the user's profile issuing them an informative message of a similar issue). I'm not super sure how things work here yet since I'm new, but this seemed like the best course of action. --AndyMissed (talk) 18:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. He's spamming his referral blog hidden in that mass of links. I've removed it and added a warning. Kuru (talk) 19:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Your edits citing (rmv non-WP:RS : user created content)[edit]

Dear Kuru

I would be interested to know why you believe the several citations, particulatrly those using have been walked back by you with this notation non-WP:RS

This came to my attention on the Ralph Wolfe Cowan page.

This page and at least one other deletion of yours that I inspected fall under the WP:BLPSELFPUB exception. These are good citations, clearly not for what the WP:RS was purposed.

It becomes even more time consuming to walk back your deletions when a bot now declares a citation needed, disallowing a clean undo.

Best regards, Ssaco (talk) 21:48, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ssaco: I'd agree if there's someplace showing verified authorship. Presumably, you're indicating that the subject published the material himself there and I've missed the attribution. Just point that out. For the vast majority of the other uses, the site simply operates as an open wiki and does not meet that exception. Kuru (talk) 22:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Kuru: You are incorrect May I suggest you precede your assumptions here with even a modicum of research. This is NOT an open wiki, though editing is available. Edits of non original source content are properly reviewed before going public. Did you make any enquiries to Did you make or edit an entry to properly evaluate May I politely invite you to do so. Your opinion here may be valuable. And don't put a short clock on it as you appear to have done with my efforts.
Best Regards Ssaco (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
@Ssaco: Am I incorrect? From the site's disclaimer: "Prabook is an online open - content collaborative biographical encyclopedia; that is, a voluntary association of individuals and groups working to develop a common resource of people important to their professional, national and local communities. The structure of the project allows anyone with an Internet connection to alter Prabook content." Sounds like an open editing platform to me. Furthermore: "Prabook cannot also guarantee the validity of the information found here. The content of any given article may recently have been created, changed or altered by someone, whose opinion does not correspond with the real facts about a person. Administrators have not necessarily reviewed information published in Prabook." Which part of that speaks to editorial control? What part of that conveys a reputation for reliability? I'm happy to take this to WP:RSN for you if you'd like and allow others to opine. Note that previous consensus at noticeboards has not been favorable: [12], [13], [14]. Kuru (talk) 20:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Mirrors of M60[edit]

Thanks for showing me my error on the M60s service in Grenada. I have updated the ref with one that I hope is appropriate.

Since I am new to wiki, would you be interested in being a mentor for me?

Check the wiki pages for the M728 and the M60 AVLB … I've done a lot there too

thanksChasnic2 (talk) 12:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of a source in the article on Noel Goemanne[edit]

Dear Kuru, You deleted a source I used in my article on Noël Goemanne, viz. Goemanne's prabook page, and justified this deletion by adding "rmv non-WP:RS : user created content". I don’t know if Goemanne himself created this page, but even if he did, there seems to be no reason to think that the details of his career and the composition of his family mentioned on this prabook page—the two reasons for which I used this source—are unreliable. Not all user-created content is unreliable, is it? The other sources I used confirm that he occupied a number of positions as choirmaster and organist, and his obituary in the Dallas newspaper mentions two children that survived him. The prabook source mentions he had three children, but that hardly contradicts the Dallas obituary, for one may well have died before he did. — I also notice that prabook is used as a source in the articles on Robert H. Steele, Zoska Veras, Roger Lawrence Williams and Brouria Feldman-Muhsam. Deleting it here is no disaster, but it omits information that seems reliable to me and it leaves the fact that he had three children undocumented. Would you mind if I undid your deletion? Polla ta deina (talk) 16:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@Polla ta deina: If he created the page himself, there may be an option to use WP:SELFPUB as a criteria for evaluating the link, but that site does not include authorship information and it seems quite unlikely. In this instance, the site is "user created" in the sense that anyone can edit the information at any time (basically an open wiki), and the site has explicit disclaimers on the accuracy of the information: "Prabook cannot also guarantee the validity of the information found here. The content of any given article may recently have been created, changed or altered by someone, whose opinion does not correspond with the real facts about a person. Administrators have not necessarily reviewed information published in Prabook." This does not appear to meet WP:RS in any way - I'd find alternative sources. If there are other pages using this link as an actual reference, I'll likely remove it when I do my periodic scans. Kuru (talk) 16:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Auto Block[edit]

I am a regular user of Wikipedia. Since early morning today, whenever I have been trying to edit a page I was finding a notice:

"You are currently unable to edit pages on Wikipedia due to an autoblock affecting your IP address. This is because someone using this internet address or shared proxy server was blocked. The ability of all users on this IP address to edit pages has been automatically suspended to prevent abuse by the blocked party. Innocent users are sometimes caught in an autoblock. It may be the case that you have done nothing wrong.

This block is set to expire: 16:39, 20 September 2018. The block ID is: 8593745. Note that you have not been blocked from editing directly. Most likely your computer is on a shared network with other people. If you believe that you should not be subjected to this autoblock, please follow the instructions..."

Now I find that the block is not there and I can edit once again. However, I am a little worried about the matter. I do not use a shared computer. I had tried to put through Unblock Requests. I was getting a response that neither my IP Address nor my Account was blocked. As per Wikipedia records I was not blocked but I was unable to edit Wikipedia. I was not only unable to edit Wikipedia pages, I was unable to eidt even my talk page and talk pages of other editors. A blocked editor (he feels that I got him blocked) has been trying to get me blocked. Once earlier some arrangement was made by an Admin that I would not get blocked once I sign in. That was working fine for quite a few years. I think that facility has been withdrawn and I am getting blocked again. Please help. - Chandan Guha (talk) 05:15, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

While your computer may not be shared, you are likely using an internet provider that rotates IPs frequently. In this instance, I was able to locate the autoblock and remove it. If this is a recurring problem, you can apply to have WP:IPBE - which is what you're referring to in your last sentences. @Ponyo: It looks like the IPBE you granted him in 2014 was removed in the great purge of 2016. Any objections to re-applying? Kuru (talk) 11:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
If Chandan Guha continues to be hit by autoblocks not intended for them, I don't see why IPBE shouldn't be restored.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks. I will go ahead as advised. - Chandan Guha (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
@Chandan Guha: Per your request and the consult above, I've re-applied the IPBE flag. Those blocks should not impact you in the future. Kuru (talk) 21:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Many, many thanks for the support. It reduces much of my worries. - Chandan Guha (talk) 01:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

DXC Technology needs revdel[edit]

Old revision of DXC Technology Jerod Lycett (talk) 20:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Done - thanks! Kuru (talk) 20:46, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Ran it through copyvio and found this, don't know which is first though: copyvio

Reputability of[edit] Linksearch en (https) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frMER-C X-wiki • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Yahoo: backlinks • Domain:

Hi, I've put in a request at Book Sources:Request to add - Bookseller for India based on this interaction on my talk page. I noticed when trying to figure out if this was a spam website that you had done some admin work around this domain.

I am still unsure if this is a spam site, but if you have time to weigh in on this request over at Book Sources, I would appreciate it. -Furicorn (talk) 21:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

It's a year-old domain that has apparently hired amateur-hour SEO hacks to promote the site. The previous socks were overtly spamming. Now it appears they're trying to abuse our lax policy around those silly "Further reading" sections. You were far nicer to them than I would have been. I don't know if it's a "spam site", but there are definitely people behaving in relation to the site. Kuru (talk) 22:30, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


Howdy, you have blocked There is an overlapping global block of Our block is anon-only but the global block has caused collateral damage (see UTRS #22769). One solution would be to unblock the global block, locally, and to extend our block, on an anon-only basis to be equivalent to the global block. I should welcome your thoughts, please? Just Chilling (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

@Just Chilling: technically, the local block is larger and already covers the global block. is to, and is to We should be fine if just the global is lifted. Just to note, although I'm sure you already looked, there is one grade-a troll on that range - it's been blocked locally seven times as the /23, and four more times previously as the /24 range. Kuru (talk) 18:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks for this helpful reply. I have lifted the global block but extended our block to 20 March 2019, the expiry date of the global block. Just Chilling (talk) 21:41, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Teefa in Trouble[edit]

Hi admin! You recently checked out the edits by User:Aghasarmad on the mentioned page. The user has added the same information under a new heading "Achievements", which has already been metioned in the page.

The user wrote, "…Ali Zafar becomes the first Pakistani actor…" This line is not written as per reference [15]; and that reference is same as one already mentioned [16] in the page.

I don't think their edit was constructive. Need your guidance, thanks! Face-smile.svg M. Billoo 18:17, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


Please block user:2001:8003:a8b0:e300:6132:468c:2067:4ce8 for vandalism. He is just not stopping. CLCStudent (talk) 02:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Done. Kuru (talk) 02:52, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Joaquin[edit]

hello i just have some request about the page on hurricane Joaquin ( ) . Whilst my account has been temporarily and understandably banned due to a supposed editing war, I would like to request that the information about hurricane Joaquin being the strongest Atlantic hurricane of non tropical origin be permanently removed due to Hurricane Michael ( ) of the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season officially now holding this title. Once this information has been correctly changed to either remove this information or include that hurricane Michael now holds this title, it may also help to block editing on that page to prevent others from changing it back the way that people recently have despite the information they put back no longer being correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:8518:9300:94F5:AC0D:62BF:F28C (talk) 00:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

1.You're evading your block, which is not allowed.
2.You're evading your block to continue edit warring despite the fact that nearly every editor in WP:WPTC agrees on the following...
3. ...namely, that you are patently incorrect in this assertion, because Michael is of tropical origin and therefore cannot hold the record of non-tropical origin.
So sorry, but no. Consensus rejects your view.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:25, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
IP /64 blocked. Acroterion (talk) 00:30, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, i please request you look at the map for the meteorological history of hurricane Michael, which can be found on its page ( ) and does show Michael to have been a non tropical low at the begining of its lifespan, which would make it the strongest Atlantic hurricane of non tropical origin due to having the same wind speeds as hurricane joaquin, but a much lower central pressure. (talk) 02:13, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

I have no interest in your content dispute - work it out with the other editors of that article. Please wait until your block expires. Kuru (talk) 03:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
They are further evading the block as Special:Contribs/ (and above, of course). Looks like a lot of whack-a-mole.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, but that is not what the map says. Triangle does not only mean extratropical; it can also denote a tropical disturbance. Please read the map legend more carefully, and perhaps concede you were wrong, rather than digging yourself a deeper hole with constant block evasion and edit warring, both of which have even led to site bans in the past. Kuru, please consider semi-protecting the article as he clearly will IP hop to change the article otherwise.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:20, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Reasonable - I've just done that. There's a /18 I can block to catch his ipv4 range, but I'd rather not unless he starts hopping articles. Kuru (talk) 10:23, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Could you block [17] for disruptively editing pages, they also admitted on their talk page that they are in fact Chernobog95, a user that was blocked earlier this year for using sockpuppet IPs to evade their block. 2600:1015:B102:B87E:93F:3125:5B6F:2CB9 (talk) 14:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC) Hi Hornetzilla78 aka SamaranEmerald aka Kirlator aka Python Dan behind this strange IP which looks to me like VPN, how strange you target me as you did with multiple accounts when you used them to make false accusations to ban/block me when you lied and continue to lie about unreliable sources and so called speculations. NK News, 38 North, The Diplomat. If I only knew you used multiple accounts to push your agenda, very first ban wad due to me using reliable sources. Keep lying and breaking rules, remove reliable sources and confirmed informations, IP VPN and account socketing bastard Ask why I wasnt blocked by Bnn23, he found out what this guy did and didnt block my IP. My endless block lies on foundation of lies and manipulation by Hornetzilla88. (talk) 15:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC) For your information, I do not know who you, Hornetzilla78 or any of the other users are, they likely share the same IPs because they likely go to a school in my area, which has an IP similar to mine. I suggest you lay off that bad attitude of yours and stop accusing users just because they have similar IPs. 2600:1015:B102:B87E:93F:3125:5B6F:2CB9 (talk) 17:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC) How odd, another IP from Kentucky. and same arguments claimed by Hornetzilla88 be it his main account or his sockpuppets. (talk) 22:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

"best known for" IP[edit]

(From Beyond My Ken's talk page, who points out they're not an admin, ahem): I could be wrong, but could Special:Contributions/ be the "best known for" IP? This is a change also made by the "best known for" IP in May 2017; this of course removes the IP's least favourite phrase. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Like BFK they seem to mix some good edits with a degree of obnoxiousness (and are jolly familiar with Wikipedia for a new editor). Might be too early to call it. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:43, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Clearly him; same edits, ISP, etc. Done. Kuru (talk) 00:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Babu Divakaran[edit]


I have edited the page and added the information which I know personally. Also cited links for the attributes but unfortunately it is removed. I know Mr Babu Divakaran and affirm strongly that the information revealed are 100% true. it makes feel very sad to see that the information is deleted to a previous stage. Kindly send the reason and request your good self to restore the edited version of the page.


G. Sarath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarath bg (talkcontribs) 04:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

It is critically important that all information is sourced to reliable sources. Our policy on biographies of living persons is strict, and with good reason. I have no intention of restoring your edits. Kuru (talk) 11:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)