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Do you run There's a drawing on cylinder that's located there. All images on Wikipedia should be uploaded to Wikipedia or hosted on the submitted server. --PierreAbbat

Since you changed the stats for the fr:wiki, I was curious...How do you know all the stats ?

The only place to see all the stats history I know is Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination (and of course, each wiki for the current day). There is *no* date on the 18th of november. Do you run stats yourself ? Did you notice the number you put for the fr:wiki on the 18th of november is the number which is here on the 10th of november ? How do you explain the difference ?

I think you made a typo bug for the number for the, for they have not even reached the 18th of nov value yet. Or, are you really not doing similar stats ?

Are these 18th your personal stats ? (then, why this difference ?)
Or just rough approximations for you want a common date for all wikis estimates for better comparison ? (but then why do you take care of removing the accurate value I provided ?)


Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:


Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Sven Lidman[edit]

I have already broken out the three SLs into separate articles, crediting you in the edit summaries. I couldn't see any reason not to, but several reasons to do so. I will turn the Sven Lidman page into a disambiguation page. / up◦land 08:31, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree that this is the reasonable thing to do now. I first thought the texts would be shorter than they are now. I wish we could find some free pictures of these persons. --LA2 08:33, 2005 Jan 23 (UTC)


Hi LA2 , or Lars or Mr. Aronsson , which ever you prefer.

The image in the header has been marked as copyrighted as stemming from your site Would you mind releasing it under a free license? Also see Image:Riddarfjarden2.jpg

--Fred-Chess 00:33, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I suggest you remove that image, and instead use the full scale version from the Wikimedia Commons, image:la2-riddarfjarden.jpg. --LA2 July 1, 2005 11:44 (UTC)

Pieni tietosanakirja[edit]

Hello Lars

You noted on your Finnish User page the debate about Pieni in Kahvihuone. I've summarized the debate in English to your Finnish Talk page. Your comments are of course welcome. And congratulations to the Swedish Wikipedia for 100k articles. :) --Hamilkar 08:58, 30 August 2005 (UTC) (User:Hasdrubal @ Finnish Wikipedia)

Illegal images[edit]

please don't upload any more images under copyright onto the Dutch wikipedia. A warning has been issued on Your behalf. --Bthv 02:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

As I just answered on the Dutch Wikipedia, the Demis map images are free from copyright. Also, I did not "upload" them to the Dutch Wikipedia, but to Wikimedia Commons, and that is where the discussion should take place. --LA2 04:28, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

History of the Bahamas[edit]

I know this is quite a bit late, but could you explain the creation of History of the Bahamas. I would have guessed it is copied from the public domain CIA World Factbook, but that does not seem to be the case. Superm401 | Talk 03:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Back in the spring of 2002, when Wikipedia was little more than one year old, there was no "move" tab in Wikipedia. If you wanted to rename an article, you had to copy-and-paste the text to the new article, and make a redirect of the old one. This would lose track of the article's history, but not much history was preserved in the first year anyway. We had just switched from UseModWiki 0.92 to Magnus Manske's new (phase I) software written in PHP and there was a discussion about abolishing subpages. At this time we were busy to rename Bahamas/History to History of the Bahamas for a large number of countries and subpages. It is fair to assume the text was copied from the CIA World Factbook, as that was the common practice at the time for filling Wikipedia with skeleton articles about countries, but Koyaanis Qatsi should be able to answer that. --LA2 15:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Project: www.[edit]

Ich hoffe du verstehst deutsch: Es geht um 70.000 Bilder aus alten Biologiebüchern. Alles weitere unter: Wir überlegen noch die technische Umsetzbarkeit und könnten deine Erfahrung gebrauchen. de:Benutzer:Kolossos 08:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

the name Project Runeberg[edit]

How do you feel about the name of the project, when talking English? Is the proper name "Projekt Runeberg" translated into "Project Runeberg" or should it remain with the original Swedish spelling projekt? // Habj 00:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

We translate the first part but keep the order, e.g. fi:Projekti Runeberg, en:Project Runeberg, fr:Projet Runeberg, no:Prosjekt Runeberg, de:Projekt Runeberg. --LA2 10:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

GPS terms in Swedish[edit]

A couple of Swedish-speakers are trying to translate all the messages in the mediawiki software, that will be defaults where Swedish interface is used. If you feel like it, you can take a look at the Swedish Special:Allmessages at the testwiki used. It was the GPS-related strings exif-gpsareainformation and exif-gpsdestbearingref that made me think of asking you, but of course any comments are welcome. // Habj 18:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Både engelska och svenska termerna verkar skapade av amatörer som inte har en aning om vad GPS handlar om. Detta ormnäste ger jag mig inte in i. Allt måste göras om från grunden och det har jag varken tid eller lust med. --LA2 22:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Hehe! // Habj 17:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The English original terms, as I understand it, has something to do with // Habj 17:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
So who are the people involved? I don't speak Finnish and I don't understand what this is doing on a wiki in Finnish, on a special page that cannot be edited. The English phrases seem to originate from an inofficial English translation of the EXIF 2.2 spec, written by some Japanese who don't speak English ("Translation without guarantee in the event of any doubt arising, the original standard in Japanese is to be evidence"). Using the entire document, it would be possible to find better (useful) English phrases, that could be used as a basis for translation. But nobody seems to have done that job. Who wrote the Swedish and German phrases? I see no version history, no user names. If anybody is interested in my contribution, they had better present themselves with name and a contact address. I once translated Usemodwiki into Swedish, as still used on, and provided improvements to the worst mistakes in the Swedish translation of Mediawiki. --LA2 00:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to be so late to respond, I haven't checked your page for some time. I had understood your message as "I am not interested".
I have no clue what happened to the exif-stuff, but most of the Swedish-language phrases have been greatly improved and are now included in the releases of MediaWiki software.I myself felt I had contributed all I can in the area some time ago when most of the Swedish texts were dealt with, so I am not updated on what has been happening there during the last months. Last time I spoke to NikeRabbit he said the test wiki was broken, I do not know if he has fixed it or not.
Those involved in the tweaking of the Swedish files were those who volunteered to help out. I was "picked up" in the IRC channels by User:Nikerabbit - Betawiki/Nukawiki is his test wiki, and it is mainly in Finnish because he is Finnish. He had been pestering me, Sannab and a couple of others about the context of a .php file displyed on Meta, where the Swedish version had not been updated for several years. Obviously, people who downloaded the MediaWiki software and intended to use it in Swedish noticed that lots of messages were in English, since people created local versions on the svwiki and svwikt but did not send the Swedish texts back to the "big repository" to be used in the MediaWiki software. Personally, I could not do much about that php file - it is for people who understand code. Nikerabbit realised it would probably be a lot easier to find people willing to do the work if he could move the languge file work to an environment where you do not need to understand code, and so he rearranged his wiki for this purpose. To edit MediaWiki files one needs admin rights, and so all the people who volunteered to help were given that. Sannab and me did most of it - some texts were never translated, others could be greatly improved although I am sure there are still improvements to make. It was a nice interface, easy to work in. I am not sure if it will be continuing or if this little project is "ended" now, since Betawiki is broken and many of the languages got a good overhaul.
Of course there has always been ways of fiddling with the language files in the MediaWiki software, ways that existed before Betawiki and will continue to do so. I have no clue if those ways have changed since you last looked at MediaWiki Swedish interface files. In case the field is of interest to you, I am sure you are capable of finding the places where this is done. I am not.
If my asking you caused you any unconvenience, then I apologize. / habj 15:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC) minor tweaking habj 15:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hymnography[edit]

On the Swedish Wikipedia, there is a quite impressive hymnography project going on, and some people have suggested to move it outside of Wikipedia.

Seems reasonable to me to move it outside of Wikipedia.

This is when I started to look at Wikia and found It was started only recently?

Yes, about one month ago.

What was the background for taking this step?

I have always had an interest for English hymns (I know many of them). I was also aware that many of those hymns had been translated to Dutch. I have for a long time wanted to make a compendium on which song in English became which song in Dutch, and the best way to do that seems to be a wiki. Of course Hymnografie is about more than English songs translated into Dutch, but that was the initial idea; it has grown to be much broader than I anticipated at the start.

Are you aware of any other hymnography projects?

No, I'm not aware of any of those. I do know one English website (The Cyber Hymnal) that lists over 5700 English hymns (and some in a great variety of languages, including Swedish), the origins of those hymns, biographies of the people involved (composers, lyricists, translators, etc.) as well as the text to those hymns, midi's and scores; but that's not a community project.

Many hymns are translated between the European languages, so it could make sense to make an international hymnography project, or at least to establish cooperation and coordination between projects in each language.

I have thought about this too, but in my opinion it is best to wait with an international hymnography until MediaWiki supports multilingual content (i.e. one page, say Amazing Grace, could then be described in several languages, so that the end user would see the description in his language, if that is at all available, and otherwise in the default language, which would probably have to be English).
Cooperation/coordination seems fine, but I don't exactly know how.

Whizz 27 juni 2006 11:51 (UTC)


Well, I don't have a GPS receiver, so I can't help much. And for that matter, I currently live in Saarbrücken, not in Poland. :-) Taw 23:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

You can help a lot if you can translate the article to Polish and push the idea to hackers in Poland. Have a look at my PDF map (1.3 MB). Do you work or study in Saarbrücken? Saarbrücken according to OSM. --LA2 00:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

OpenStreetMap images[edit]

Can you upload images from article to wiki-commons? Serguei. S. Dukachev 11:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :-) Serguei. S. Dukachev 19:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

openstreetmap in PL[edit]


I'll translate openstreetmap info in a few weeks. Now I havn't time to do it. Malarz pl 18:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Personal Telco up for deletion[edit]

Personal Telco is up for deletion. --Liface 17:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Category:Surname pairs[edit]

FYI, I have nominated for CfD. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Since this category is going away, and arguments are strong against "listifying" (making a "list" page of it), here are the current links: category:Hewlett-Packard, Abbott and Costello, Agnelli & Nelson, Bang & Olufsen, Benevento/Russo Duo, Blohm + Voss, Boyce and Hart, Briggs & Stratton, Cagney & Lacey, Crosse & Blackwell, Dolce & Gabbana, Ernst & Young, Fischerspooner, Foster & Allen, Gilbert and Sullivan, Hall & Oates, Heckler & Koch, Hewlett-Packard, Holland & Holland, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (disambiguation), Johnson & Johnson, K&R, Laurel and Hardy, Lennon-McCartney, Lerner and Loewe, Loggins and Messina, McDonnell Douglas, Morecambe and Wise, Page and Plant, Pratt & Whitney, Procter & Gamble, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Rodgers and Hart, Rolls-Royce plc, Seals and Crofts, Simon and Garfunkel, Smith & Wesson, Starsky and Hutch, ThyssenKrupp, Van Kooten en de Bie. --LA2 09:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Literature[edit]

Since you post the message about interwiki links for literature, I was wondering if you would be interested in trying to start a literature wiki project. --chemica 07:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Isn't that already covered by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Books? --LA2 14:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


Sorry, that was stupid of me. Rich Farmbrough, 21:00 7 September 2006 (GMT).

Rationale in PD-Ugglan?[edit]

Hello Lars, I'm trying to find out the rationale why exactly images from these books are regarded as being in the public domain. Can you help me out there? Thanks, Wikipeder 08:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Why do I need to "help you out" here? Is somebody pressing you? I'm not sure exactly which images you are talking about, but I assume you mean illustrations from the 2nd edition of the Swedish encyclopedia Nordisk familjebok (38 volumes, 1904-1926). This entire encyclopedia, text and illustrations, is regarded as an anonymous work, whose copyright expires 70 years after its first publication (1926 + 70 = 1996). Even though parts of the text (and possibly some illustrations) can be traced to individual creators, these have sold their texts as "work for hire" to the publisher once and for all, so they (and their heirs) cannot claim individual copyright. Starting in August 2002 and ending in May 2003, I have scanned and published for free online all 38 volumes at This is known all over Sweden, and nobody has protested. Therefore I feel completely safe in my interpretation of the work's copyright status. Do you have any contrary information? By the way, I have made a similar interpretation for the German Meyers Blitz-Lexikon (1932) which I scanned in 2005 for the German Wikisource. --LA2 00:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
(Help me out in the sense of give me and hand)
No worries, I was asking you because I want to learn from you. Actually, I was looking for a way to treat images from old books that are PD 70 years after publication because they are collective works or their authors are not mentioned, and Fred Chess suggested to turn right to you as the man.
So, trying to recapitulate: The reason we regard the components of these two collective works as PD 70 years after the books' publication is that a) the components were published anonymously and b)—this seems to be crucial—we can be sufficiently sure the components have not been published anyhwere else non-anonymously, because the compontents' authors transferred their exclusive copyright to the publisher of the collective work and none of the components had been published under the authors' name before. Right?
Thanks, and thanks for the good work! --Wikipeder 10:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Please, people in 1926 were not using terms such as "transfer exclusive rights". As for the Nordisk familjebok (NF), the editorial archives are deposited in the Royal Library in Stockholm, where you can dig through the letters between individual text contributors and the editorial office. But there is nowhere any mention of detailed legal contracts. It was all silently understood. The 3rd and 4th editions (1932-1957) of NF in many cases reused the same article texts and there is no chance that new money was paid to the old article authors. New money was only paid for new texts, and they were paid per line of text, just like freelance contributions to newspapers. Now this publishing company doesn't exist anymore, but if it did, it could have digitized the work and published it on CDROM or the Internet in 1996, when it could still be claimed to be under copyright, and the individual authors would not have been compensated one bit. This silent agreement can only be understood as if the authors had "transferred exclusive rights" to the publisher. --LA2 13:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I got that.
You seem to get a tad defensive—sorry, I didn't mean to scare you or something. Your interest is to defend your work, my motivation is to contribute to improving the projects. I'm not after you or something. I was simply wondering under what conditions Commons accepts images from anonymous collective works and if we could apply that more often.
And if I may say so, I'd prefer arguments and considerations to be judged by their content and rationality and not by the speaker's referenced merits. I mean, when you set up, did you not do anything for two years because you were too young and better shut up? --Wikipeder 14:33, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
What you are saying is that age shouldn't matter. I'm saying that this is an indication that you are younger than 25. Are you a law student, or what is your field of specialization? --LA2 14:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

How can you tell is Sweden's 94th most visited website according to[edit]

Hello LA2,

You write on your userpage: "According to, is still Sweden's 94th most visited website with a global ranking of 16,000." Pray, how can you tell that Sweden's 94th most visited website according to I've visited the Alexa site and all i could find out was the global ranking. This issue is important for me, since i'd like to be able to use Alexa as an aid in assessing the reliability of online newspapers and magazines i use as sources for Wikipedia articles i edit (assuming positive correlation between popularity and reliability). Thanks Itayb 18:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

At the time of writing, Alexa used to provide a global top 500 list and a per-country top 100 list, where was once listed as #94 among Sweden's websites. After that it dropped from the list, and now the entire list seems to be gone. currently seems to rank 32,800 globally, which back then used to be in the range 15,000 to 20,000. --LA2 23:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Do you know of any other sites similar to Alexa that rank websites according to their popularity, and offer these rankings freely? Itayb 07:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Nope. --LA2 07:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Itayb 11:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, Alexa has redesigned their website once again, and now the traffic details page at the end states that: " traffic rank in other countries: Sweden 304; Finland 13,740" --LA2 22:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the useful information, and also for remembering me. Itayb 00:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


A tag has been placed on Oceanic-Creations, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Ar. This looks pretty marginal, right now it has one (not multiple) external cites, and it's in Norwegian at that. Per WP:CORP this is not sufficient, do you have more? Herostratus 09:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation in Liz Story[edit]

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Thank you, User:Butseriouslyfolks for cleaning up this. --LA2 15:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I realized shortly afterward that the text should have just been removed instead, so many apologies. Cricket02 17:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Peltast ISBN[edit]

A question - on the Peltast article you changed the ISBN of the Peter Conolly book on the basis of some list on the web? I have the book and the ISBN is definitely listed as 0-7481-0109-8. Why the difference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan.M.McLaughlin (talkcontribs) 23:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Answered on Dan's user page. --LA2 00:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

You asked about the publisher of my copy of the book - it says First published 1981 by Macdonald Phoebus Ltd. Reprinted 1988 by Macdonald & Co (Publishers) Ltd under the Black Cat imprint. Dan.M.McLaughlin 1 December 2007

Cite templates for common works[edit]

Thanks for pointing this out as an idea. I have shamelessly stolen the format of Template:Ref Stockholm to create a mockup Template:Ref Kentucky and will see if there is consensus to use such a thing. Any comments or suggestions you may have on the template would be welcome. Euryalus 03:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: "It was bound to happen"[edit]

Hi -- thanks for the note on my talk page. The Ref:Stockholm template looks interesting, & it may help me with the bibliographic problem that I've been encountering with greater frequency -- a consistent style for my sources. At the moment, I've been doing a lot of cut-n-paste, but that has grown cumbersome.

However, this template doesn't solve the problem I tried that was the focus of my blog post: when all is said & done, how do we know that editor X is telling the truth about source Y? Some works are easier to access than others. For example, I have used Richard Pankhurst's Economic History of Ethiopia in a number of articles, but to the best of my knowledge only 4000 copies were printed; it's not a common book, so not many people can be expected to be able to verify the information I repeat from it. Because of that difficulty, should I be allowed to quote from it? If yes, then can any editor quote from any book -- for example, an anon one-time contributor whose source is suspect from the beginning? If no, then which books are in commmon enough distribution to be used? Doesn't this limit violate the intent of Wikipedia to make knowledge accessible?

I ask this because I don't think there are any simple solutions. Definitely no "one size fits all" solutions. As I wrote the post, I did think a good step would be requiring Featured Articles (& maybe even "A" quality articles) to have their sources checked & verified that they are fairly quoted, so users can start with some certainty. -- llywrch 16:46, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep, I'm giving your idea a test run.;-) I figure it will only help in maintaining the bibliographic resources over the long term. (And if newbies have problems, I'll just have them enter the raw information & I'll adjust it for them.) -- llywrch 18:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Maps for the Finnish War articles[edit]

It is a pleasure for me to help you with some maps. I only need to know where I can find more information about those battles. The Wikipedia articles on them are very short and I need more than that to make a map. Please give me some web links with more details or tell me if I should wait until the articles are bettered. Andrei nacu (talk) 21:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you that I am quite busy until January 15 and I also started working for a map of Roman Britain. I will have more time to search myself for maps or infos from next Wednesday onwards. We will surely find more by searching the Web. Andrei nacu (talk) 22:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Edit counts[edit]

Thank you very much for the link to the discussion thread - I'd probably tweak the wording to Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia that every third person can successfully edit, but your point is a very good one. (I've modified my blog posting to include a link to the mailing list posting where the actual numbers were cited.) It's really an amazing statistic - and I don't believe for a moment that even a small percentage of registrations were in order to set user preferences (to what?). In fact, I'd give long odds that well over 90% of registered editors who do actually have edits haven't ever modified their user preferences. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


Ok, I checked the link, you're good. I am quick on the trigger so excuse my revert. It was in Arabic, that's why, but I believe if the link is external you're okay with posting it. Good luck. --♣ẼгíćЏ89♣ (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, no, it's in Urdu. But thanks for clearing up this misunderstanding. --LA2 (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


[[1]] Chaldean (talk) 03:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

zh-wp: User:LA2[edit]

The name LA2 is free now on zh-wp.--Philopp (talk) 22:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --LA2 (talk) 14:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

About new users[edit]

The Demitz talk page really isn't the place to discuss EmilEikS, but since you raised the issue, what has gone on here is a bit more than scaring away a newcomer. There is a request for comments that goes into a lot more detail, but people tried to explain rules and policies only to be met with vehemence, disdain, derision and tantrums, starting over such a trivial thing as a flag icon being removed from an article and has gotten no better. His behavior starting from that time, and the animosity he has continued to show, has made nothing better. I'm sure Wikipedia thanks him for the photos, but he's been thanked for the photos far and above anyone else who has ever contributed them. It doesn't excuse behavior, nor the explicit recent message he left on your sv.wikipedia talk page about many en.wikipedia editors and administrators. Because we speak English doesn't mean we can't understand Swedish. Here or there, such things are best said privately, as Emil suggested here some time ago. Regardless of what he thinks, the issues on articles here are legitimate issues, whether they are sourcing related, style related, relevance related or policy related. A good example would be the crypt picture he put on the Mae West article - it keeps coming back to putting Demitz's name in the caption, although there is nothing to suggest that Demitz was involved in any way in West's life or career. That he was a super-fan, adored her and did tributes in his shows still doesn't make him notable to the Mae West article. He has never understood that his perspective on Demitz, the articles, and the like are just that - his perspective. He also has never seemed to understand that it isn't personal, it was never personal, but he has made it that way to the detriment of his efforts. That's fairly much what I have to say about it, except that when I saw the note, I realized it is still going on in his view. By the way, I may do some work on Commons and images, but I have had nothing whatsoever to do with his uploads, his account or his activities there. Saying that I've followed him there is just a bit paranoid. In any case, I responded on the Demitz talk page about the issues, which are as much WP:BLP as anything. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I absolutely agree about the behaviour and the rant on my user talk page. But for the very same reason, I think such RFCs are counterproductive. They can only escalate conflict and scare newcomers away, instead of trying to improve behavior or find the right task for each new user. For the time being, I will remove that unnecessary rant on my user page and treat it as personal communication. If you see any further problems, you are welcome to contact me or user:Pieter Kuiper. --LA2 (talk) 08:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Elizabeth Berg (author)[edit]

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Thanks for keeping me informed. As you suggested, I removed the deletion proposal and started a discussion on the article's talk page. You say that "the deletion notice should explain why", but I don't think it does. --LA2 (talk) 20:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Reply given at Talk:Elizabeth Berg (author). - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 21:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Lars, Thank you for you contributions to the Hebrew Wikipedia. I noticed your contributions and I was wondering, since you don't know hebrew, and you do manage to make quite an amount of interwiki edits - are you using a bot or any other tool to discover and complete the missing links? Thank You, TaBaZzz (talk) 14:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

It is correct that I don't know Hebrew (or Azerbaijani or Chinese). Yes, I'm using the pywikipediabot framework, as a semi-manual tool. user:LA2-bot has bot status to update a dozen languages but it reads all languages to check for inconsistencies, and sometimes I do the necessary edits (by copy-and-paste) manually. When it comes to an interwiki conflict between, say, Cinema of Sweden and its subcategory Swedish films, I trust what the other language links back to. The fully automated bots are very good at adding links, but not at removing them. Sometimes I just remove links to clear a conflict, trusting that other bots will fill in the correct ones later. --LA2 (talk) 14:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
By the way, please help me to fill in the big table at Category talk:Categories by geographical location. --LA2 (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, now you know that your work is noticed and appreciated. I added the Hebrew terms to that table. I'd be glad to help with further language and interwiki issues (via my talk page). If you're interested in solving IW conflicts, you might wanna visit this page: meta:Interwiki synchronization. TaBaZzz (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Inflection of abbreviations in Swedish and Finnish versus pretty much every other language in the world[edit]

I was prompted to writing this after reading on the page on Neue Zürcher Zeitung that over 70 terabytes of scanned pages were "OCR:ed". I immediately thought "this was written by a Swede or a Finn!" and sure enough, it was. Swedish and Finnish (and maybe Estonian?) are unique in that they inflect abbreviations and acronyms by inserting a colon between the abbreviation and the inflection. English sometimes uses no punctuation ("CPUs") or an apostrophe ("OCR'ed"). Other languages are similar. -- Peter Lund <> 10:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC) (talk)

An interesting observation, but how was this relevant to me or my user talk page? On a related note, colon is also used in Swedish abbreviations formed by removing the middle part of a word, e.g. Sankt Petersburg = S:t Petersburg, Andersson = A:son, cirka = c:a, Johannes = Joh:s, kyrka = k:a (meaning church, used on roadsigns). In the early years of Wikipedia, this caused a problem because [[S:t Petersburg]] was interpreted as an interwiki link. --LA2 (talk) 11:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, now you know. So don't do that again. -- Peter Lund —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


Appreciate your pointing out the problem with Lesjaverk. Made some changes to the article in response to your comment. Please advise if that corrects the problem you noted.

Any chance you've been there and have a photo(or photos) you could upload. It is a beautiful area and worthy of a picture or two.

Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 05:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

John Nordin[edit]

Hello. I thought I'd let you know that this page has been tagged for clean-up, and it's probable that it will be deleted. This is because none of the entries seem to have articles on en Wikipedia; as a dab is essentially an index of articles, this doesn't meet the guidelines in MOS:DAB until the articles are created. Best wishes, Boleyn3 (talk) 08:44, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Whatever, go ahead. I used this as a scratchpad while figuring out who was who, and have now written two articles on sv.wikipedia, but these two are probably not relevant on en.wikipedia. --LA2 (talk) 20:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I've prodded the page. Please don't use Wikipedia article space as a "scratchpad" and then leave the rest of us to clean up your scraps when you're done. You're free to create pages in your own userspace for things like that. Propaniac (talk) 15:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I've moved the page to User:LA2/John Nordin. Propaniac (talk) 22:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:Polish doctors[edit]

You tagged Category:Polish doctors for merging but didn't use the category specific template. I have opened a discussion here. Your input would be useful. Tassedethe (talk) 16:01, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

great minds think alike[edit]

ping. --John Vandenberg (chat) 13:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Editor of Merkantilt biografisk leksikon[edit]

Hi! You list the editor of Merkantilt biografisk leksikon as having an unknown death date. His name is E. Hoffstad, and according to BIBSYS he was born in 1894. (After looking that up, I saw this) In the Norwegian newspaper archive Atekst (, I think there's a Swedish version too) I find an article from Verdens Gang, 25 July 1959, page 16.

Registrerte dødsfall. Aker.

  • Gartner Ragnar Halle, f. 1903
  • Cand. oecon. Einar Hoffstad, f. 1894
  • Direktør Einar Johansen, f. 1900
  • Fabrikant Einar Henrik Jensttn,.f 1879
  • Fru Anna Olsen, f. 1891.

This is with all probability the same person. So the death year is 1959, most probably in late July. If it's possible and in line with conventions I'd like to receive a small credit for finding this out (e.g. "tack til [namn] for dödsåret"). I'll email you my name. Geschichte (talk) 11:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Excellent! You should try to get this information into Bibsys. --LA2 (talk) 18:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea how to do that. I could ask at the desk of the University Library of Oslo though.

Project Runeberg[edit]

Thank you for Project Runeburg by the way. A wonderful endeavor you must be proud of. I was using it today when I had to ask a friend to translate something for me to English because my Danish is awful. This he kindly did and was I glad because his version compared to the Google translator changed the whole meaning. This made me very happy and very sad both at the same time. Happy that he did such a good translation that helped me but sad because it would never been seen again, for the benefit of someone else. This gave me the idea that it would be so nice to have a translation link just like you have a Below is the raw OCR text from the above scanned image. Do you see an error? Proofread the page now! below the book. This way the translation would be there for others to read. What are you thoughts ? (Ice Explorer (talk) 10:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC))


Thanks for adding the reference to this article, however counting lines of code yourself is considered original research, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. I have removed the ref and the code line count. You can replace it if you have a reliable reference that says that this is true. I have also re-tagged the version sequence, as we still need a ref for that, perhaps from the GOCR project release notes or a similar source? - Ahunt (talk) 15:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

It's only "original research" if there is any chance that the information could be controversial. In this case, it is easy for anybody to verify that the open source project contains a certain amount of source code, and arrive at the same number, just like you can check the number of pages in a book. There is nothing "original" about that research. --LA2 (talk) 20:29, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

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I did not create that article, but I might have edited it on May 20, 2001. Older article history might have been lost. --LA2 (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
The relevant page history on the Nostalgia Wikipedia shows that the first edit to the article was by Wathiik (talk · contribs). I have informed him that the article has been deleted. Graham87 08:45, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Your user page[edit]

I found your old user page while checking out some old edits. I have history merged it, so that all edits are in one place. Hope you don't mind. Graham87 07:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


You started that article; that's radical. do you know what article was first; or likely first if it's not known. I tried to figure it out once. Daniel Christensen (talk) 00:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

No, I did not start that article, although it appears so from the page history. Some old versions have been lost for ever. I probably edited the article in May 2001, but I don't remember what changes I made. And I don't know which article was the first one. --LA2 (talk) 02:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
LA2, and anyone else who is interested, see Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. I'm on a wikiarcheology expedition again, and I stumbled on this talk page. Graham87 08:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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Testing 10 years ago[edit]

I'm searching for early editions on Catalan Wikipedia ten years ago. On May 2001 you made a testing edit Just curious, what did you mean with "vida"? Perhaps it was vide in Latin. --Vriullop (talk) 11:33, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't speak Spanish, Catalan, or Latin. Yes, if that was my edit, I clearly meant "see". --LA2 (talk) 14:26, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Time Limits for Admin Discussion at Village Pump[edit]

Lars, I saw your post over at WikiMedia on limiting terms for admins and wonder if you'd be interested in weighing on on a Village Pump discussion on the issue here on English Wikipedia. I confess I dropped your name as a potential contributor. I'm interested in the one year term that you mentioned was working at Swedish Wikipedia. The head of the discussion is here. Cheers! Geoff Who, me? 22:25, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for contributing the Swedish wiki's experience to the discussion. I appreciate your kindess in taking the time. (Heaven knows what the end result will be, or even if there will be an end. Perhaps we will reach, to paraphrase Winston Churchill, "Neither the end, nor the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning...") Geoff Who, me? 17:39, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of AF107[edit]

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This deletion makes a lot of sense. I can't remember now, but I think I wrote that article (in August 2004, apparently) as a test case for what articles could contain. I'm surprised it is still around. --LA2 (talk) 20:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for keeping me informed. --LA2 (talk) 03:27, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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No text layer in djvu file[edit]


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Nomination of Dan Anderson (voice actor) for deletion[edit]

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My contribution in April 2006 was to set up a disambiguation page. I have nothing to do with this voice actor, as you can see from the article's history. --LA2 (talk) 01:54, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


Hey, heads up your article, Bitcasa was nominated for deletion. I think the article needs some help, but it's a good one to have. Thanks Synergee (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


I could really need some help from a Swedish Wikipedian. I have made an article on Elisabet Höglund which I have nominated for DYK, I could need some help with additional copy-editing and translation of some of the words that perhaps was lost in translation from Swedish to English and links that are without proper redirect. Any help is welcome. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 15:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


I found this userbox:

Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg This user has an article about himself on Wikipedia.

and I think you should use it on your userpage! greetings, :) Dan Koehl (talk) 14:35, 11 April 2014 (UTC)


I've just tagged the "Sweden" section requesting citations. Although the very substantial new material you've added looks interesting and informative, we really need some citations from reliable sources as per Wikipedia policy. Could you please add these, as otherwise your potentially valuable work may be challenged and removed by another editor. Alfietucker (talk) 08:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I think many of the statements are anchored in (verified by) the articles they link to, e.g. Rurik, Great Northern War, Norrköping, etc. It's the 20th century history that needs both more detail and more references. For example, the "saw filers" are covered in the Swedish Wikipedia, but nowhere in the English Wikipedia. --LA2 (talk) 11:26, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ref Stockholm[edit]

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