User talk:LM2000

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Yes, this is my talk page. I'm honored that you have chosen to pay me a visit.

To LM2000[edit]

You are wrong and do not know what the definition of revelance is... You have mistaken my supposed mistake. Undo your mistake... Thank You... Heru101 (talk) 22:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) After looking at your contributions Your edit on Paige is what I assume you are talking about, which in that case is not a reliable source per WP:PW/RS and can't be used, there was no mistake made by LM. Secondly if Paige was pregnant would be the first to break the news as she was backstage at RAW lastnight and WWE would know before any dirt sheet. If the Paige edit is not your complaint, then I suggest you be more specific on what your issue is. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 23:03, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Heru101, The rumor seems to have been debunked. I don't think we'll need to discuss further.LM2000 (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)


Not understanding how to do an ANI, which I think im gonna have to do with that Dave guy after today. Left Oshwah a message on his talk about it but I don't think he's been on to see it. Suggestions? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 05:09, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

There's no wrong way to file an ANI report, just make sure you include a lot of diffs. Your post to Oshwah is a pretty good outline actually, you could probably copy most of it for the report.LM2000 (talk) 06:22, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Think I should wait and see if he continues or file it? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 07:03, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I usually wait until I've given them multiple warnings. This is a little different because he keeps saying he's going to report you, so this'll end up at some noticeboard sooner or later (WP:BOOMERANG if he files). I haven't been on much lately so I haven't seen all of his edits but if you think there's enough already then I will support your filing.LM2000 (talk) 07:14, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
That's my issue he hasn't posted in almost 2 weeks then boom posts to my talk and posts nothing else. I think I'm gonna wait and see if he does it again after I told him to stop posting on my talk again, then it's ANI. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 07:17, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

WWE Hall of Fame[edit]

Are you using a second account or something? Both Edge and Shawn Michael's entries mention their secondary title wins. DaveA2424 (talk) 23:30, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

They mention some, not all. Pick one or two that you want to list but don't list every accomplishment. This has been the criteria for years so all veteran editors familiar with these additions will be reverting you.LM2000 (talk) 23:33, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

It seems a little neglectful to leave out accolades but if that's the general consensus then I'll go with it to avoid edit wars. DaveA2424 (talk) 23:46, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Notice how Shawn Michaels' Intercontinental Championship wins are mentioned. DaveA2424 (talk) 00:43, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

As you were involved[edit]

ANI Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 01:09, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Jimmy Snuka[edit]

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Taking a break[edit]

Keep an eye on my talk would ya please? I'm taking a break for a bit, I'll be back in a week or so. That ANI was waste of time, clear signs of Incivility, False accusations, and Battlefield behavior and it's being treated as a content dispute when it was about Incivility and involved as many users as it did with 1 user being the problem, compete waste of time. But whatever that's what I get for doing things by the book won't happen again. Later Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 07:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I've got it in my watchlist so I'll keep an eye out. ANI doesn't always get a desired result, or any result at all; no admin responded to our thread about the brand dispute awhile back and that's pretty normal. But it's also normal for admins to respond and still take no action in a first thread. The good news is that it's been archived so if he keeps causing problems we can link to the original thread when we start a new one. I've never seen a second thread started without some action being taken.LM2000 (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Did you know......[edit]

Did you know our Vandal did this, which was fixed & this? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 07:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yea, I saw that. I looked at their history before reporting because I initially assumed it was TAWT but I've never known him to make edits like that. The vandal also was warned for some bad image uploads.LM2000 (talk) 08:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

So I found this today which I did restore everything back to a prior edit after I realized trying to do it by each section was going to be horrid. Let me know what you think, I did do a warning welcome as the user has 15 edits, has been here 2 months and probably shouldn't have made such mass changes without a consensus. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 15:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I think you're right to have done so, I think it was better before the changes. I only reverted one earlier and didn't know they made more changes.LM2000 (talk) 15:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
They did it again,mass changes and removing stuff. I welcomed them the first time, they were warned this time. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 22:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye out too. Also, they just ran a CU on TAWT and our vandal didn't come up as one of his accounts.[1]LM2000 (talk) 03:29, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Figured as much, MO didn't fit. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 05:23, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Lmao that Sbh69 gives me an Anti-Vandalism barnstar today and then proceeds to mass change Vince again. So they got another warning for disruptive edits and I reverted it back. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 22:25, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

More edits today but nothing too egregious. They even removed an old rumor about Vince retiring years ago sourced to WrestleZone.LM2000 (talk) 12:21, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
No consensus for that many changes to it. Changing Attitude era to Ruthless Aggression era doesn't even make sense, it wasn't known as that. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 12:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't have high hopes at this point but I wrote out on their talk page why their edits are getting reverted. We'll see what happens next.LM2000 (talk) 15:35, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
AIV was declined. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 16:35, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Not surprising, they usually take action against only the most obvious cases of vandalism. We'll have to ride it out a little longer before noticeboards will do anything about it.LM2000 (talk) 16:40, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Just so you know the Penguin is up on an SPI. I wouldn't support them quite yet. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 12:47, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Jeez, what is it with all the wrestling socks lately? Shame if this one's true, I liked some of their edits. I didn't like all of them though, the edits to stuff like Big Show made little difference in the long run and were pretty useless. But they did give Roman a nice cleaning.LM2000 (talk) 13:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
See my response here, to much of a coincidence. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 17:49, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

User:MajesticPenguin was identified as a blocked users sock here, sure you look this over good there were ALOT of socks that have been editing on Wrestling articles.Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 03:29, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

I had seen StylesClash's edits before but nothing weird stood out until I saw an ANI thread about odd behavior on their talk page, that led to the first sockpuppet investigation. With so many different sockmasters running around the wikiproject it's hard to assume good faith with new users. At least I know what behaviors to look for with the StylesClash socks in the future.LM2000 (talk) 04:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)


...for the delay in deleting the WWE tag team article, I've been going over it for almost an hour to see if the accounts were perhaps related to this sockpuppet case, but I could find nothing definitive. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:54, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

No need to apologize! I too suspected its creator of being a sockpuppet of another user but I ruled that out after looking into it. The creator's talk page also had an SPI notice posted for a third case. If indeed they are a sockpuppet I think it will turn up in a CU somewhere down the line.LM2000 (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


What are your thoughts on this and this??? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 11:06, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry it took awhile to respond. I see the Shaq paragraph is hidden in the storyline section. It should either be hidden in both sections or hidden in neither but not mixed-matched. The UK Championship article looks good the way it is now, it just took a lot of edit warring to get there. LM2000 (talk) 00:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
I agree but the Shaq match keeps getting removed even with 2 valid sources. Like this bullshit that is getting out of hand. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 01:12, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
I agree. Dane's fixed it for now but I'll keep an eye on it.LM2000 (talk) 03:03, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

You may want to voice your opinion on this Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 09:50, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]


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How is this right?[edit]

How is this right? He was in the game that's pretty notable, right? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 01:34, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

@WarMachineWildThing: *Sternly* Did I not just tell you I rolled it back? lol Also, I warned them. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 01:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
lmao didn't see it Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:19, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


Can we just agree that Inoki have to be grey on the Combined reigns table? So it makes 49, not 50 champs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

That looks fine to me.LM2000 (talk) 22:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I understand this recognized-only-for-a-few-days bit and this reign probably should be listed. But having 50 champions in combined table bothered me because it would be very inconsistent. Hope this way it works. (talk) 23:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
I agree it was inconsistent and I think that edit improved the article. I've asked for your edit war thread to be closed.LM2000 (talk) 23:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


Any chance of getting the PWInsider and Death of WCW cites back into the last paragraph of the "Undefeated streak" section at Bill Goldberg? The guy (Trepcost) that removed them all and continually pushed to keep them out, has been blocked as a long-term sock. I'm no saint, but since literally one blocked user wanted the section stripped of cites, shouldn't the paragraph in question go back to the way it was?[2] All the best. 2A02:C7F:8E16:8300:F8CB:63B8:FB41:44BE (talk) 05:36, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Christ that article is a mess. There's so much edit warring, vandalism and sockpuppetry that I have no idea who is who or what the hell is going on. It's been totally protected so that only admins can edit it. I do agree that those facts should be added back to the article, I could be wrong but I don't think that WCW's inflation of Goldberg's record is often disputed.LM2000 (talk) 06:56, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) The inflation thing was added by one of TAWTs many IPS, it's been removed and put back so many times I've lost count. The edit warring over the pic is flipping ridiculous. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 07:04, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Pro Wrestling Sheet[edit]

Hello LM2000. It's been some time because I was away from the website. I'm thinking they're a reliable source to be added. What do you think? starship.paint ~ KO 12:00, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Starship.paint, it's always good to hear from you. I honestly know very little about PWS or their editorial oversight. They were one of the few sites that delayed reporting the death of Nicole Bass; while everyone else reported her death they said she was still alive and had just been taken off life support. If there is any truth to that then we should probably look into adding that to the reliable list.LM2000 (talk) 00:34, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Actually, all that I know of currently is that their editor Ryan Satin was formerly at TMZ. The other two writers seem to be ... just fans. I just seem to recall PWS broke some stories which turned out to be accurate. But I can't remember what they were unfortunately. starship.paint ~ KO 21:33, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
The site was created in 2015, that's pretty recently. We should probably give them some more time and see if they get a reputation for being reliable.★Trekker (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
I knew I'd heard about PWS somewhere before Nicole Bass died but I couldn't place it. Then I listed to Don Tony and Kevin Castle's podcast and remembered that they ripped them late last year for getting details on Tammy Lynn Sytch's arrest wrong. They said PWS was wrong about the Nicole Bass story too. I know they're not a reliable source either, and I still don't know who was really right about Nicole Bass, but I agree we need to give them time to establish a reputation.LM2000 (talk) 22:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


So I'm sticking rigidly to policy at WP:PW/RS, but as an IP I've been cast as the vandal: User:TBBC guts myriad WP:PW/RS approved sources (PWInsider, PWTorch, Baltimore Sun, Slam Sports etc) on his vandalistic crusade at Survivor Series (1992), and has unfortunately gained the support of other users because he's registered and I'm a lowly IP. I can't do anything about it, so maybe you can have a look at the Survivor Series (1992) history. WP:BRD dictates a revert to the pre-edit war (supposedly this is an "edit war", rather than vandalism removal) version, but they're actually breaking policy and refusing to do that, and are keeping the vandalised version because as an IP, I must be wrong. All the best. 2A02:C7F:8E16:8300:E42B:2F78:719B:CAAE (talk) 13:22, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

The article looks like a complete mess right now. I'm bringing it up one the project talk page.★Trekker (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Please weigh in: Talk:Survivor_Series_(1992)#Discussion:_please_support_or_oppose_my_suggestion. Thanks. 2A02:C7F:8E16:8300:E42B:2F78:719B:CAAE (talk) 13:43, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Gonna be on and off over the next week.[edit]

Might wanna keep an eye on WWE Hall of Fame. Dates keep being changed saying HOF is always before WM, which as we know this year isn't the case and nothing has been announced for 2018 yet. I'll be on and off over the next week so I may miss something. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 03:51, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Lots of trouble on that article lately, I'll keep an eye out. Enjoy your time away from here.LM2000 (talk) 07:47, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Mil mascaras hof.jpg listed for discussion[edit]


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Hey got all my outside wiki stuff caught up so I'm semi back. Wanted to let you know because of a TNA Impact taping that hasn't aired people are changing the TNA World Heavyweight Championship to reflect a title change at a taping that TNA isn't even acknowledging yet and won't till it airs. Sad part it was a long-time user that started it. It's also being changed here. Also people keep changing Jack Swagger saying he's been released when WWE hasn't granted him it yet. He requested it but they never granted it. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 10:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, LM. I'm during a travel and im gonna be offline until Sunday. Please, can you explain our spoiler policies to warmachine? Thanks :)--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:04, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Wiki is not a news site. Already discussed, with an admin. This is against WP: NOTNEWS Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 12:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about the trouble. It looks like there wasn't a "recognized by TNA" column earlier, it balances out a little more now.LM2000 (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

This is perfect reason why title changes should not be changed until they are or are acknowledged by the company. They vacated the title Del Rio never won it. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:25, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

What a fucking mess.LM2000 (talk) 04:59, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
I've cleansed the related articles of mentioning Alberto as a former champion. Seems like a standard Dusty Finish. I mentioned it in the notes but that's the only place it needs to mentioned.LM2000 (talk) 05:47, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
And guess who reverts me!LM2000 (talk) 00:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
The same person who highjacked my message to Oknazevad I'll bet. He got himself blocked I see too. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 05:43, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Consensus reached on Trump effect article?[edit]

It looks like it's time to close the discussion of Trump effect and start including the discussed material. I'd do it but I prefer a more experienced user do it. heers. Beatitudinem (talk) 20:33, 4 March 2017 (UTC)


Please, check move this article and this. 2804:7F4:FB80:9DE2:E9E9:B5A1:7629:A8AA (talk) 21:04, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Please, revert this move by WP:COMMONNAME. 2804:7F4:FB80:CC83:C0A3:C91:60C0:A876 (talk) 05:20, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I didn't notice this one earlier, although I did warn the mover to stop doing this. I filed a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests but if that fails we'll have to do a RM; it's not letting me move it manually.LM2000 (talk) 05:26, 5 March 2017 (UTC)


How would this be removing trivia? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 23:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

And they did it again Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 00:33, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

She's quoting WP:PW/SG, stuff besides specific wins belongs in the body of the article.LM2000 (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Gotcha, that makes sense now. If you don't already ya might wanna watchlist Bill Goldberg looks like Sro found a TAWT IP. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 01:34, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
When Trepcost ended up being a different sock I pretty much gave up on that article. It's still in my watchlist and I'm still seeing large chunks or article being moved around, added and deleted, but it usually barely changes the substance of the article. There's too much going on for me to follow and I can't figure out who is who anymore.LM2000 (talk) 01:58, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I feel ya there at this point it should be deleted and rewritten lol. But Sro always seems to find them. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


So is there a consensus somewhere about adding colors to PPV events, IE:like this that I don't know about? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 01:35, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

To be honest I don't know. I haven't noticed it before, it's really ugly.LM2000 (talk) 01:48, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I've seen it a time or two, it's ugly and shouldn't be happening. I mean, I'm fine with a designation, but the colors, nope. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 01:53, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree, it's horrible. I've fixed over 20 articles today, no I'm not kidding that this user did it to. I told him he needed to stop doing it and he did it to a couple others and I removed it again. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 01:57, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dana Warrior[edit]

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Mike Dibiase[edit]

Thanks for moving the article finally. I was worried that it would get forgotten once again. :) ★Trekker (talk) 17:39, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

No problem, I haven't been on much so I was surprised to see it hadn't been moved yet.LM2000 (talk) 18:49, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Dana Warrior for deletion[edit]

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You know, I'm not sure how this deletion notification thing works but it seems kind of weird to send this to LM2000 since he only made the redirect which was later turned into the article. Is a message sent to the other person as well?★Trekker (talk) 23:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Am I missing something??[edit]

WWE only shows 24 participates for the Andre memorial at WM33, yet the WrestleMania 33 articles has 31 names listed with no sources, so where are all the others coming from? Or did I miss something? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 20:59, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

JDC808 said the 31 entrants were on a poster and that it's sourced. I don't see this source so I must be missing something too. I responded in the thread.LM2000 (talk) 01:11, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't know how.......[edit]

I don't know how it was missed but AJ didn't meet his wife until 96 and didn't marry his wife until 2000. The article said they were married in 95 with a ref that never said that. I updated it with a newer ref here. I can't believe it's been missed all this time. Hell him and Wendy didn't graduate high school until 96. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 00:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Good catch. You'd be surprised to find how long vandalism can stay in place when it's not obvious.LM2000 (talk) 00:17, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
There were 2 refs listed and neither of them said 1995 or gave a year period for that matter. Thankfully I found the newer one that said it was 2000. I added it to my watch list just in case someone decides to put it back. Funny part was the first of the article even said he didn't graduate until 1996. lol Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 00:22, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Andre entrants[edit]

I went through the list of Andre memorial entrants on WrestleMania 33 and compared them to the list.There were ALOT of unconfirmed names on the list. I got it fixed for now but not sure how long it will stay that way with all the users who keep adding bs. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 03:35, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it. The article will probably be in miserable shape until some time after Mania.LM2000 (talk) 03:47, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Oh I'm sure it will, if it isn't vandals it's long time users who are wrong but think they are right.It's a mess. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 03:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


Hey could ya keep a watch on my talk for me, I'll be gone till 5/1 on vacation. Thanks Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 21:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

I'll do that. I see you were doing good things on Undertaker before it got locked, I'll keep an eye on that too once it gets back to normal.LM2000 (talk) 23:01, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Wanted to respond before I leave, yeah it has a source now so I let the admin know his retirement has a source now. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 23:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
I can't believe he's really retired now. :( Have a nice vacation WarMachine.★Trekker (talk) 23:06, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for everything LM, TAWT finally got me blocked and the Admin who unblocked me got accused of playing favs. Not worth the headaches anymore, TAWTs not going to stop. It was good while it lasted, again thanks for everything. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 11:16, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


Thoughts on this Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 22:57, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you guys, "utterly redundant". I tend to think that shorter ledes are better. Those details are fine in the body of the article.LM2000 (talk) 01:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Clearly the latest IP sock of LTA User:Mangoeater1000. Same interests in wrestling and finances ('x wrestler earned this', 'x belt cost this'), same habit of using bare URLs as refs, same argumentative attitude. By the way, he's currently editing from unblocked sock User:Bbx118, and added a big ol' sock section to NWA World Heavyweight Championship (worth keeping an eye on). Cheers. (talk) 20:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Bbx has a lot in common with Mangoeater but I'm reluctant to say it's him, unfortunately a lot of editors have been adding fancruft to the championship articles. It wasn't that long ago that one editor put a gallery of belts at WWE Championship. I'll keep an eye on it either way.LM2000 (talk) 21:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


How can something you have to pay to hear be reliable when you can't prove what it says without paying for it like this link that's being used for the refrence?? Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:48, 12 May 2017 (UTC)


Hi. I see how sportsfan opens AfD after AfD... I think somebody should talk to him. I mean, he is deleting every british promotion. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:40, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean almost everything he has put up for deletion has been non-notable but not all. I don't know if it's appropriate to do nothing for a project but put up dozens of article for deletion. I don't want to be accusatory but maybe that editor who implied that they have a biase against pro wrestling has a point. Just my two cents.★Trekker (talk) 12:47, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
I'll message them about it if their AfDs keep ending in keep. A simple google search found enough sources to prove notability for most of these. Truthfully, a lot of articles in our project could use looking into, and some of us have been given grief for nominating some tag team articles, but these are pushing it.LM2000 (talk) 04:42, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Megyn Kelly[edit]

This is a neutral notice that an anon IP is edit-warring at Megyn Kelly, an article you have recently edited. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)


Your category is going to wind up being deleted (or remain and be useless) if it doesn't adhere to Wikipedia:CATDEFINING. The reason I removed Koko and Bull Pain from it is because their careers weren't defined by jobbing. That's someone like Dusty Wolfe, Hardbody Harrison, etc. Koko was a strong mid card wrestler during the 80s in WWE and wrestled (and won) high profile matches. He didn't become a jobber until later on.It doesn't make sense to just toss everyone who ever jobbed into this category or it will include like 80% of all wrestlers. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

I didn't create this category. Do you mean that the category itself will be deleted or it will be removed from certain articles? I added it to Koko's article because it says he was notable for being a jobber in the WP:LEAD, making it a defining characteristic.LM2000 (talk) 14:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Someone deciding to put it in the lede doesn't make it a defining characteristic... it has to be backed up with sources. Please have a look at Wikipedia:CATDEFINING. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 17:03, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Latter-day Koko was like latter-day Tito, still more than capable of whooping The Brooklyn Brawler or Reno Riggins but pretty much doomed against Warlord or The Barbarian. "Jobber to the stars", as the Internet of 1997 would call them. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:42, June 23, 2017 (UTC)
Fun Fact: Tito and Koko hold a combined 89-0 record over Brawler, who once defeated Los Boricuas, The Disciples of Apocalypse, The Nation of Domination and The Truth Commission at the same time. Needless to say, this won him a title shot against Shawn Michaels, himself an absolute loser against Randy Savage (0-19), unlike Koko, who beat IC Champ Savage on TV in 1986. It was a countout, of course, but still...what jobber can do what HBK can't? InedibleHulk (talk) 18:04, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on[edit]

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Allow private schools to be characterized as non-affiliated as well as religious, in infobox?

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:18, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Carmella and MITB[edit]

Hi, LM2000. We are haven a hell of discussion in the article Money in the Bank ladder match. We're talking about Carmella and her status as winner of the match. Can you please, give us your opinion? Thanks :) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

List of WWE Pay-Per-View events[edit]

Please check out the talk page of this WP article. We have someone who is making threats to have the entire page removed. OldSkool01 (talk) 10:06, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you, LM2000, very much for saying that my efforts to improve and expand the article Elijah Daniel successfully demonstrate that it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. DIFF.

Especially during this trying period of time, I really appreciate your being so willing and kind to acknowledge the hours upon hours of research and writing that I've recently put into this.

Thank you. Sagecandor (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm pushing 3[edit]

Mogo keeps readding the Ambrose and Rollins at the top. I'm pushing 3rr I think. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 05:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Correction broke 3 Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 05:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I think Mogo gets it now. Hopefully we don't need to take it further.LM2000 (talk) 05:53, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Several moves with no consensus[edit]

There was no consensus to move List of NWA/WCW events and pay-per-view events, Kev519 moved it Twice in one day both here and here. I tried to move it back to the original page myself but it won't let me and I don't wanna screw anything up. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 13:28, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:GlobalForceWrestling.png[edit]


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Holtzclaw page edits[edit]

LM2000: If I can find articles that 3rd party sources reference Holtzclaw and the atmosphere of the time that he was arrested, may I add that information?

Dlruthenberg (talk) 21:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Molly Holly[edit]

Thanks for reverting my edit and for letting me know that I was incorrect. Much appreciated :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:08, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

The edit would appear to be outright vandalism to everyone except the select few who pay more attention than we should to this niche subject.LM2000 (talk) 08:09, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


[3] looks an awful lot like [4]... 2A02:C7F:8E0C:6600:70AC:FCD7:74E4:6BB7 (talk) 00:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for October 7[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Global Wrestling Network[edit]

Hello LM2000,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Global Wrestling Network for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons. For more details please see the notice on the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:10, 12 October 2017 (UTC)