User talk:Lazybugger13

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I have started to transfer some of the information from my former ID to my new discussion pages.

The following are test pages for the next Malaysian General Elections.

(At this moment I am quite unhappy with the Election tables as they don't contain a lot of information. Right now there is no notes column to state which MP or State Assembly person left/pass away or if it changed hands during a by-election or state election. We should put in extra information on who is the election opponent of the winner of the seat. I know it is going to be lots of work, but I am game for this. My feeling is that the election results should remain as they are and that if there are new updates because of by-elections those should be inserted into different state representative tables)

There were some election tables where it was not clear which BN candidates belong to their respective component parties, especially those from Sabah and Sarawak. My aim is to create separate state assembly tables and a new parliamentary table for the 13th Parliament of Malaysia. Its quite a lot of work, but I am game for this.

Here are the following pages which I got and will use for reference for updating with new election articles with the new table templates designs:

There is going to be a State Assembly election declared in Sarawak sometime in 2011 which I will try to implement using the new design templates. But currently there is talk of the state elections running concurrently with a snap general elections, so I putting this on hold.(Regarding the election in Sarawak in 2011 I did learn a couple of new things. First there were some editors who taught me new ways to format the election summaries and results tables. Secondly I did comparisons of the Sarawak election tables (with extra information) with the Australian general election articles and found out the the Malaysian articles gave a better perspective and understanding to the reader.

I also would like to have polls inserted into Malaysian election articles similar to the US and Australian elections as well.(That might have to wait until I can find different types of pollster organisations. eg Merdeka Centre)

Because of the upcoming delineation exercise in 2014 there might be a number of new seats for both state and parliament constituencies coming up. We might also see some seats being merged which might affect some of electors and election results tables.

Use of your template[edit]

I took the liberty to implement your template for the GE13 results to my article "Parlamentswahlen in Malaysia 2013" (General Elections in Malaysia 2013) in the German branch of Wikipedia. I gave the correct credits in the version history. However, the table is still commented out and invisible. Thank you for this good work. Cheers, --Cccefalon (talkcontribs) 06:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Malaysian MPs[edit]

Firstly kudos on the good work. Howver, I have changed the name of the page to something more consistent with title formats as the one that had a capital letter on each word is not WP format. I also merged Members of the Dewan Rakyat, 13th Malaysian Parliament with List of Members of Parliament in the 13th Dewan Negara as the content is the same )(also we don't need thte title to say DR and that it is the Malaysian parliament,(Lihaas (talk) 20:26, 5 May 2013 (UTC)).

Template:Malaysian_general_election_state_results,_2013[edit]

Hi Lazybugger13,

Thanks for your hard work adding the state election results.

I note that you removed the total's +/- column as in

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Malaysian_general_election_state_results,_2013&diff=554452612&oldid=554437116

Is it because the table is too wide on your browser? I think that column is useful because it shows the changes in the number of seats for each state (and in total).

Thanks, cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 18:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your great effort in populating the tables in State Election Results of the 2013 Malaysian General Elections!
cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 12:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Kudos too for constantly updating the current parliamentarians and state assembly members! Whether in actual articles or in your test pages, your updates are really useful for me to keep track of changes since the general elections.
I hope when we add seats (confirmed for Sarawak but unsure for others), people who update the articles like us won't get confused. ;) Hytar (talk) 07:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Use of colours in tables[edit]

Colour Sample
#CED4F2 BN (UMNO)
#F2CECE PR (DAP)
#CEF2CE PR (PAS)
#CEF2F2 PR (PKR)
#F2F2CE SAPP (PMS)
#ECCEF2 STAR (PRN)

Hi there. I notice you edit a few tables on the recent Malaysian election results. I appreciate your hard work, but I find the use of colours to be a bit excessive. I know that those background colours help us identify the parties that the candidates represent, but in some cases it makes the text hard to read. There is also inconsistent use of colours.

OK, enough with my style rant. Here are my suggestions:

  • Only place bgcolor at the last column (Party/Coalition).
  • Try a (slightly) different colour as in the table on the right, which I base from Help:Using colours.

Hope you find this useful. I'm open to opinions. Hytar (talk) 18:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I hope you can decide quickly, because someone is trying to change the colours in this article. I'll just say... those were not good choices of colours. Hytar (talk) 13:17, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Malaysian elections[edit]

Hello Lazybugger13. Please do not add all the individual by-elections and state elections to the main national templates. They are supposed to contain only national elections (see {{Italian elections}} as an example). The by-elections and state elections have their own templates ({{Malaysian by-elections}} and {{Malaysian state elections}} respectively). Thanks, Number 57 19:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

The template is part of a series for all countries, and contains a standard set of information. Please respect this and stop reverting. Thanks, Number 57 19:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
We are not talking about the display of election results in an article, we are talking about the template. Election result tables vary according to country because elections are held in different methods; this is not relevant to our current discussion. Number 57 19:07, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
What? No, that's not how consensus works. You need to get consensus to vary from the standard format. I am also concerned about your reference to "other editors who are editing Malaysian political articles and templates", as this suggests you believe certain editors have a level of WP:OWNership. Number 57 19:14, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
If you are not talking about ownership, why are you suggesting I can only edit templates of other countries? Number 57 19:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Italy also has different regional elections in different years, yet {{Italian elections}} is set out in the standard way. There is simply no need for individual state elections or by-elections to be listed in the main template. The state elections and by-elections can still be accessed through the main template without them being listed there. By-elections are typically listed as a single link at the bottom of the template (see e.g. {{PEIElections}}). Number 57 14:14, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't have any broken links. However, I presume you actually mean red links? This just means the articles have not been created yet. If you can give me a good source for Malaysian state election results, I would be quite happy to create them though. Number 57 15:13, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
If you could provide me with a source, I will sort it out. If Sarawak was the only state to have an election in 2011, I will link directly to that one (as is done on the Italian template). Number 57 15:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
As you can now see on {{Malaysian elections}}, the off-year elections are linked independently. Also, "Malaysian states elections" does not make sense. Number 57 15:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
The article shows the results of the elections; this is all we have for many elections (see, for example, Seychellois parliamentary election, 1970). The only time we have titles like "State election results of the Malaysian general election, 2013" is if they are a content fork from a main article – however, in this case there is no main article. Number 57 15:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
It's the same layout as {{Italian elections}}. It isn't a mess, and the national template is not for breaking into sections. Similarly, {{United Kingdom elections}} links to local elections by year, even though in some cases they only took place in one part of the country (usually England, which has annual elections). Number 57 15:59, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

If you want to create a shorter article at Malaysian state elections, 2013 and have an expanded set of results at Results of the Malaysian state elections, 2013, you're more than welcome to do so. However, if there is no other article to take the place of what is currently at Malaysian state elections, 2013, then it should remain where it is. Number 57 16:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

But it does work here. I am off now, but will finish creating most of the rest of the state election articles later – you will be able to see that it is easily accessible. Perhaps rather than complaining about the template layout, you could contribute some content too. Any attempts to remove the main template from articles will be reverted though. Please don't play games. Cheers, Number 57 16:09, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Completely separate from this, please do not make WP:Cut and paste moves as you did with the 2013 article, because it means the article history is lost. You can only move articles using the move tab. If this does not work, you have to use the WP:RM process or ask an admin to make the move. Thanks, Number 57 20:05, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I also see you did this with the 2008 article. Please follow the WP:RM process as above. Thanks, Number 57 20:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Update: Someone has already started the RM process – you can comment at Talk:Malaysian state elections, 2008 and Talk:Malaysian state elections, 2013. I've also now completed the set of articles on state elections, so hopefully that goes some way to addressing your concerns. I will have a crack at some of the local election articles, as I found a useful source for a couple of them. Cheers, Number 57 21:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Next State Assembly Election Results and Next Parliament Elections Results[edit]

Hi, I think the template for the next state assembly election results and next parliament elections results should follow the one for the Results of the 2013 Malaysian general election by state constituency and Results of the 2013 Malaysian general election by parliamentary constituency as it is more comprehensive with percentage of votes and demography breakdown etc. Could you make a new template for the next election according to the 2013 one? Dapmembers (talk) 02:59, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Dapmembers, I would love to improve the templates to incorporate new features, but I feel it is just overkill when adding the percentages and demographic breakdowns, etc. I will leave it to the other editors to add the misc stuff, which I will leave alone.Lazybugger13 (talk) 05:54, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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