The article Ivana Raymonda van der Veen has been created again
I see that you were very determined to delete the article about Ivana Raymonda van der Veen, and your efforts were fruitful. Having read the deletion discussion, I found the following comment of yours: "This article is rather sad, desperately trying to push a non-notable artist." I believe that tone was unnecessary and perhaps uncivil. Furthermore, you wrote, "In addition, it is a straight cut-and-paste job from the subject's own website - even if she was notable, the article should be deleted as a copyright violation".
First of all, you were aware that the subject was one of the contributors to the article, so since you noticed the copyright violation, why didn't you notify her on her talk page and tell her to read WP:MYTEXT? She should have had the chance to decide whether or not she wanted to release the text under a free license, to at least avoid the speedy deletion, but you either opted to withhold that information, or you were unaware of it. And I really cannot understand how a Wikipedian can think that even if a subject is notable, the article should be deleted anyway. The purpose of an encyclopedia is to provide knowledge. If you believe the subject of an article is notable, but the article has issues, you should try to fix them or at least tag the article appropriately.
It really looks like you took advantage of the inexperience of those editors to get the article deleted. Very well then. I have created the article again (after making some improvements that you refused to make), and I cordially invite you to nominate it for deletion once more. You wouldn't be dealing exclusively with newbies this time. Have a nice day. Dontreader (talk) 00:45, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Please assume good faith, Don. --Lemnaminor (talk) 19:27, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I do, but it's no secret that some Wikipedians will do everything possible to get a delete consensus when they nominate an article for deletion, even if it's bad for the project, because a Wikipedian's track record in AfDs is examined if they ever wish to become administrators. However, I would never assume that you eventually resorted to that technicality for that reason. It may well have been that you were unaware of WP:MYTEXT. Have a nice day. Dontreader (talk) 19:55, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Wiki Crusades introduction
It would be great to offer a bit of background for our students. They rely on wiki and am interested in the background of the causes of the Crusades. Example of the dual conflict that exists today...
The Crusades were a series of military campaigns during the time of Medieval England against the Muslims of the Middle East. In 1076, the Muslims had captured Jerusalem – the most holy of holy places for Christians. Jesus had been born in nearby Bethlehem and Jesus had spent most of his life in Jerusalem. He was crucified on Calvary Hill, also in Jerusalem. There was no more important place on Earth than Jerusalem for a true Christian which is why Christians called Jerusalem the “City of God”.
However, Jerusalem was also extremely important for the Muslims as Muhammad, the founder of the Muslim faith, had been there and there was great joy in the Muslim world when Jerusalem was captured. A beautiful dome – called the Dome of the Rock – was built on the rock where Muhammad was said to have sat and prayed. The rock was so holy that no Muslim was allowed to tread on it or touch it when visiting the Dome.
Thus the Christians fought to get Jerusalem back while the Muslims fought to keep Jerusalem. These wars were to last nearly 200 years.
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