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Stop move of "Ordinal number"[edit]

User:Salix alba is planning to move Ordinal number to another name. Please stop him. JRSpriggs 03:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Jack is back[edit]

I see that Jack Sarfatti is once again leaving legal threats for Calton, yourself, and Jimmy Wales:

I have reported this to WP:AN/I. ---CH 19:33, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

==I am replacing your redirects==[edit]


I've replaced your redirect definition for Meet (mathematics) with a full article, and I plan to do the same with join, if you don't mind. This is of course partly duplicating information you may find at other places (e.g., Lattice (order), Semilattice, Infimum), but in general I think that it is a good idea not to identify operations and sets with these operations, and the infimum article contained too much theory of infima in real number and too little in posets to be a good redirect alternative. JoergenB 19:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi - Please do me the kindness of visiting and sharing your views at Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2. I need your advice and criticism, and I would be immensely grateful if you could spare a little time on this. Thank you, Rama's arrow 15:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Lethe missing in action?[edit]

Unfortunately, Lethe has not made any contributions since 6 September 2006. So I think that no one reading this page should expect to receive any more replies from him. JRSpriggs 05:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I removed Lethe from the "spamlist" for Signpost because he appears to no longer be with us. He still has not made any contributions since 6 September 2006. JRSpriggs 10:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

lethe come baaaaackkkk... wiki needs youuuuu if it helps i brought you chrysanthemum tea — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)


I'm still on extended leave from Wikipedia, but I think it may not be much longer. Stay tuned. -lethe talk + 20:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm back[edit]

I guess I'm available to be a wikipedian again. So... what did I miss? -lethe talk + 20:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back; that was a much longer gap than expected! Naturally Wikipedia has degenerated into chaos without you, and we will all be looking to you to restore order. ;-)
Paul August took a month's absence in protest of various Wikipedia events, but is now back and volunteering for ArbCom. You can catch up a little by reading the few remarks I left for him on his return. --KSmrqT 05:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
One additional item of some importance is that Wikipedia's texvc has been improved in some very helpful ways. See the two entries here for more details. One example:
Much easier now! --KSmrqT 22:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Glad to have you back Lethe. We finished the encyclopedia while you were gone, so we've all got more time on our hands to cause trouble. Seemed wise to offer my services as referee. Paul August 05:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
As you can see above, I un-subscribed you from Signpost during your absence. So you may want to re-subscribe. I hope that you were not counting on having a lot of them on this page to fill you in. JRSpriggs 07:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcomes. I was looking forward to getting some work done again, so I'm a little disappointed that you guys finished the encyclopedia without me. Maybe I can be a vandal! Seriously though, how's my reference desk doing? I am looking forward to becoming a regular there again. I think I have to do some things for CSTAR and Trovatore too, so I hope they're still around. Cheers! -lethe talk + 15:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome, indeed. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


He's been edit-warring over this for months, was blocked several times in the past week over it, and used sockpuppeting to get around his blocks. And no one needs special warnings to avoid the other nasty stuff he was doing. I would strongly object to any shortening of the block. Jayjg (talk) 10:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Stephen Baxter[edit]

You a Stephen Baxter fan? — Rickyrab | Talk 13:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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Invariant Basis Number question[edit]

Hi, I have a question regarding your article Invariant basis number: when you say "Rm is isomorphic to Rn" do you mean "as left-R modules" or "as right-R modules" or "as both left and right R-modules", or "as R-R bimodules", or does that not make a difference? Thanks and cheers, AxelBoldt 02:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Axel. Actually, the article already has a sentence addressing that question. It says:
"If a ring has invariant basis number with respect to left R-modules, it also has IBN with respect to right R-modules. For this reason, the choice between left and right R-modules is left unspecified."
But perhaps you think something should be mentioned of this earlier in the article? -lethe talk + 18:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Question on cofinality.[edit]

On Talk:Cofinality#How_can_.7Cx.7C_.3D_c_have_cofinality_.5Comega.3F I questioned one of your edits--if you could give me any insight into the topic there it would be much appreciated!  :)

Nevermind--I figured out what I was missing on my own and removed the comment from discussion. I didn't understand how cofinality applied to non well-ordered sets.

-- 17:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC) (Anna)


What's the meaning of the Vergil quote? --euyyn 16:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Covariance and contravariance of vectors[edit]

Thank you.--Loodog 19:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Mathematics CotW[edit]

Hey Lethe, every time I come to your page I am frightened, but anyway... I am writing you to let you know that the Mathematics Collaboration of the week(soon to "of the month") is getting an overhaul of sorts and I would encourage you to participate in whatever way you can, i.e. nominate an article, contribute to an article, or sign up to be part of the project. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks--Cronholm144 23:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Nothing to be frightened of, nowadays Lethe is just a lazy bum, who edits only to delete the signpost from his talk page. :) Oh, you mean the picture on the user page? :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I miss the more active Lethe. I'm hoping the minor participation in Wikipedia is balanced by major good things in the real world. --KSmrqT 15:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys. I miss the Wikipedian Lethe too! I hope he comes back soon. -lethe talk + 21:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I used to know a Lethe, but I seem to have forgotten. Paul August 23:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

LIGO edit[edit]

You're a general relativity custodian at wikipedia, right? When you copyedit, rather than revert, vandalisms like this one, it's almost like a stamp of approval. Tsk tsk. -lethe talk + 05:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so I missed that. We're not all perfect (not even you). I have no real interest in the LIGO article, as I was in the process of listing articles that should be included in WProject Relativity (and I was just occassionally editing articles along the way), as you can see from my contributions. MP (talkcontribs) 11:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to make a suggestion. In the future, when you come across an article that has been vandalized (as this article had been), you should consider reverting the vandalism, rather than "fixing" the vandalism to have better formatting. If you don't like this suggestion, please feel free to disregard it. Thank you. -lethe talk + 17:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Commutative diagrams[edit]

Hi lethe, noticed at User_talk:Fropuff/Archive2#commutative_diagrams that you were interested in making commutative diagrams. I've figured out how and documented at: meta:Help:Displaying a formula#Commutative_diagrams; hope you enjoy!

Nbarth (talk) 22:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

re:double redirect at Cancun[edit]

Hi, thanks for fixing them, I would do it myself by I don't think I know how to erase the double redirect, could you explain me really quickly how to do it, so I can do it next time, regards. Supaman89 (talk) 16:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

ok that was really confusing, I clicked on this link User:Supaman89/Double_redirect and then cleaned the page but the page still exists, sso from what I understood if you put the ending "/double redirect" at the end of any article, you'll see how many redirects it has? is that right? Supaman89 (talk) 04:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Arbcom request[edit]


Please be aware that a request for arbitration naming you has been placed on WP:RFA on behalf of Harry59b (talk · contribs) who had originally posted it on AN/I. — Coren (talk) for the Arbitration Committee 14:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Lethte, not Lethe[edit]

Hi Coren. I got a message from you about being a party to an ArbCom case. I didn't recognize any of the other names listed, and I also didn't see my own name in the ArbCom listing, so I was pretty confused as to why I was there.

So then I looked through your history a bit and found the original post to WP:ANI by User:Harry59b / User:Harry59. I saw there a description by Harry that User:Lethe (that's me) was blocked User:Archtransit. It was then determined that Lethe was a sockpuppet of Archtransit. Archtransit was desysopped for it. This part was redacted from your submission, which is why I didn't see it. But this is getting stranger. I have never heard of Archtransit, nor was I ever blocked by him, nor by anyone else. I am, in fact, an admin myself, though I'm mostly inactive on Wikipedia these days.

So I went to Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship and found Archtransit's RfC, and all was made clear. It was User:Lethte whom Archtransit blocked and who was ruled a sock of Archtransit. I am User:Lethe. Harry must have made a mistake in typing the name. -lethe talk + 21:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Bhah. Whoh cares aboutu a fwew extrta lettrers?  :-) Will fix accordingly. — Coren (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. I guess it doesn't even matter. Lethte's permabanned, so he's not gonna take part. And anyway, his involvement was redacted from the submission to ArbCom. -lethe talk + 21:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing Nirvana pages[edit]

Appreciate you fixing them. A newbie editor (with presumably good intentions) had moved the Primary topic article to another name. And consequent DAB pages. I tried to fix -but when trying to restore original name I ran into "that name is in use so you cannot move an article to it" type alerts. At which point I left a message on the Nirvana Talk Page asking for an Admin to help fix it. Pleased that you fixed it. Thanks Davidpatrick (talk) 13:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Question for you[edit]

Dear Lethe, I have seen you are an expert of functional analysis and in particular you created Function space which I found interesting for the effort of completeness. It raised me a curiosity: is there a Normed space or better a Banach space to which the function 1/x (or even worst 1/|x|) defined on {R - {0}} belongs? And which will be the norm in this space? 1/x is a fundamental elementary function but, among the others I could imagine, I wasn't able to figure out where, in which function space to classify it. All the best --EMajor (talk) 22:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Diesel Sweeties[edit]

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Reverted your revision [1] to Apolo_Ohno[edit]

Dates are not linked per MOS:UNLINKDATES. NerdyScienceDude :) (✉ click to talkmy editssign) 04:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Lethe/archive1[edit]

{{fn}} is up for deletion and the tagging has caused it to stop working. I've adjusted your [User talk:Lethe/archive1 talk page]. Hope you don't mind.something lame from CBW 10:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Majel Barrett-Rodenberry[edit]

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Majel Barrett-Rodenberry misspelling[edit]

Here is what happened. I went to read the page on Gene Roddenberry, but misspelt it "Rodenberry". Surprisingly, I got back a list of nine articles all referring to "Gene Rodenberry". These pages were all wrong, so I fixed them. I then looked for a #REDIRECT from Gene Rodenberry but, as you can see, there isn't one. I decided the reason for this was because the misspelling was obscure so, when I fell cross your #REDIRECT page, I (wrongly) assumed that this was probably a mistake. I have no problem with it being kept. (If you wish to respond, please do so here.) HairyWombat (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Luboš Motl[edit]

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Capitalisation redirects for personal names[edit]

Hey, Lethe. I've noticed that you are creating capitalisation redirects for person's names. Just a note that afaict these redirects are not useful in any way, since on the hand for searches, MediaWiki automagically forwards between capitalisations for simple cases of the form Aa bb cc -> Aa Bb Cc, and on the other hand, they are not necessary because writing the person's name with different capitalisation is a simple error to be corrected.

Tbh though, the reason I'm dropping you this line is a different one. I just ocd a bit over those notices "(Redirected from Mark wahlberg)" and their uselessness. No biggie, but capitalisation redirects for personal names serve no actual purpose. -- (talk) 03:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. If you enter a search for "mark wahlberg", then yes, MediaWiki software search is not case sensitive and will take you straight to the article Mark Wahlberg. But if you follow a wikilink to [[mark wahlberg]], or a hyperlink to, then MediaWiki fails, and you get a blank page. It is a constant source of frustration for me, and I fix it whenever I see it. -lethe talk + 03:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
As I pointed out, mark wahlberg is a simple capitalisation error. In fact, it would be a lot better if it was red and alerted the user to the fact that it's an error. What you do in my mind amounts to a form of vandalism. I'd indef you for it. Just saying. -- (talk) 08:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
If you enter a search for "mark wahlberg", then yes, MediaWiki software search is not case sensitive .. But if you follow a wikilink to mark wahlberg, or a hyperlink to, then MediaWiki fails..
Could either the MediaWiki software or the webserver software be modified to make this correction? At least in the second case, where the HTTP link is coming from some non-MediaWiki source? (not a link from inside another MediaWiki page) Jimw338 (talk) 00:09, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Probably. -lethe talk + 04:32, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deleted![edit]


I was in the process of creating my first article on a renowned (in the UK anyway) music producer. I was following instructions, and creating the article in my user space. The instructions said that the article would not be reviewed until it was published. As I was in the process of rewriting the history of the artist from biog material, it was by no means finished, didn't contain most of the material I have now collected for it. It was speedy deleted by RHaworth. To be honest, this is a little disheartening, and I think you will attract many new contributors with someone such as RHaworth rampaging through Wikipedia.

My question is, is he likely to do this again if I try to recreate the article including the new material?

Thanks for any help

Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattgallop (talkcontribs) 08:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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Needing Wiki contribution assistance![edit]

Hello Lethe!

I am looking for an experienced Wikipedian to contribute an article for our band Mr. Meeble. I have checked and we meet the Wikipedia "notability" guidelines for a band. We have a very basic Wikipedia article written already, but I know that someone like yourself may be able to point out our formatting errors and critical omissions. You can hear our music and see our videos here:

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Let me know if you would be willing to help!

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Devbot (talk) 02:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Algebraic curve[edit]

I have reverted your edit because the left superscript for the h of the homogenization was intended: A right superscript could be confusing with exponentiation, and, mainly, is not compatible with the prime of the derivative. The \mbox{} is for a correct spacing after "=" (otherwise "h" appears as an exponent of the "=". D.Lazard (talk) 11:05, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Mercilessly. Really?[edit]

I'm curious, what exactly did you mean when you said that contributions can be 'mercilessly edited and redistributed'? introduced May 2005. I'm particularly curious about the word 'mercilessly'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by El srettiws (talkcontribs) 15:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC) Forgot to sign, my bad. El srettiws (talk) 15:55, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're asking... -lethe talk + 20:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

I believe the word 'mercilessly' is your edit. It's my view that the word merciless is inappropriate to this context. Can you explain in what sense did you mean that content could be 'mercilessly edited and redistributed'? There is a discussion here: Wikipedia talk:Five pillars Thank you. El srettiws (talk) 07:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Content in wikipedia articles may be edited without any mercy toward the intent of previous authors. -lethe talk + 22:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

His choice of words is probably related to the fact that he is an un[?]diagnosed sociopath (or gets off on pretending to be one), per his goose story. (talk) 10:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Wait, how did you year about the goose incident? -lethe talk + 02:03, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Somebody had a boring childhood... expensivehat (talk) 23:29, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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