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Hello, LightandDark2000, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

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Happy editing! SwisterTwister talk 00:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

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(talk) 07:02, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure![edit]

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Thank you guys so much for creating this interactive adventure! It was really fun, and I believe that it is extremely effective in teaching new contributors about the rules and benefits of Wikipedia. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:29, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Linus's Law[edit]

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Research has shown that Wikipedia is just as accurate as other encyclopedias, but its errors get fixed *faster*.

We are living proof of the coders' motto that:

"With enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow".

In other words, all of us make anything possible.

Something interesting that I have learned today. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

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Added something interesting. LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:33, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclones Portal Links[edit]

1: Portal: Tropical cyclones

2: Mediterranean Tropical Cyclones

3: South Atlantic

4. Southeast Pacific

5: Great Lakes

6: California

7: 2006 Central Pacific cyclone

8: September 2016 Bay of Biscay cyclone

Posted by: 174.65.96.212 (talk) 06:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

TC/Winter Storms Websites links[edit]

1. JMA Marine warnings Obtained from: Jason Rees (talk) 18:38, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

2. Mediterranean Sea Surface Weather Analysis Maps - version 1 Posted on: September 20, 2017

3. Mediterranean Sea Surface Weather Analysis Maps - Color version Posted on: September 20, 2017.

4. NOAA Ocean Coverage Satellite Imagery Posted on: December 10, 2014.

5. WPC North America Surface Analysis/Satellite Composite maps Posted on: December 10, 2014.

Tools:

  1. WebCite archive - Web citation tool for preserving temporary links or websites whose contents are subject to change over time
  2. Article Copyright Violation Detector
  3. Password security test

My Sandboxes[edit]

1. December 2004 North American storm complex (Open to editing.)

2. February 2005 North American Superstorm (Open to editing.)

3. January 2010 North American Superstorms (Users are welcome to edit this page positively. Some of my information still isn't referenced yet.)

4. December 2010 North American Superstorm (Also known as Windstorm Benjamin of the 2011 European Windstorm season.)

5. June 2011 North American winter storm (Open to editing.)

6. December 2012 North American storm complex (Open to editing.)

7. Unnamed Atlantic Tropical Storm (2011) (An interesting system that was identified as a tropical storm, only later in the post-season analysis of the NHC.)

8. Tropical Storm Rolf (The first officially monitored Mediterranean tropical cyclone. Again, users are welcome to contribute positively to this page.)

9. Cyclone Julia (The first observed hurricane-strength Mediterranean tropical cyclone in the 2010s. Users are welcome to make constructive contributions to this page.)

10. January 1862 North American Megastorm

11. Superstorm (This page needs a lot of improvement. Users are welcome to help fix up this article.)

12. Super Typhoon (This page needs plenty of expansion and additions of references. Users are welcome to contribute positively.)

13. Winter Storm Titan (2014) (Open to positive editing.)

14. March 2014 North American Superstorm (Open to positive editing.)

15. Cyclone Katrina–Victor–Cindy (Open to positive editing.)

16. Cyclone Stephanie (2016) (Open to positive editing.)

17. Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten (2017) (Open to constructive editing.)

18. LightandDark2000's notable storms

19. Bionicle Super Chapter Books (Open to constructive editing.)

Posted by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Anyone is welcome to comment or make suggestions to me on the talk pages of the corresponding "sandboxes." I am also considering developing some of those sandboxes further to eventually move them into Wikipedia mainspace. If you believe that a sandbox is ready to become a mainspace article, please inform me on my talk page first so I can make any necessary changes before the move. LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you![edit]

Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Dear LightandDark2000, you have been editing Wikipedia for several months now, and I noticed that in your contributions, you often revert vandalism, surprisingly without a wiki account! You deserve the Anti-Vandalism Barnstar, for all your efforts. But I noticed that you often attack users who vandalize pages. Please warn them only when they commit more than one acts of vandalism, and be polite and welcoming to the new users. Thank You. I award you this Barnstar, so that you can be a better Wikipedian! Keep up the good work! Earth100 (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! And don't worry, I'm improving. I now have a username up and running. (PS, I don't attack IPs. I just get sick of it whenever they cause a lot of trouble (even if it is only one edit, due to my past "experiences" with them), or if they persistently continue to vandalize. My warnings may sound harsh to them, but when vandalists refuse to stop, they have it coming. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand, and that's okay. If you do create an account, don't forget to move your awards to your user homepage too! I bet you will be a great anti-vandal user! Earth100 (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

September 2012[edit]

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet Masters Information[edit]

IPhonehurricane95 Information

IP Range of IPhonehurricane95 - Based on the IPs that I found, I have calculated a new range for this notorious Sockmaster. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I added the IP range of this notorious sockpuppeter to this page, just in case it comes in handy. LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

IP Range: 0.0.0.0/0. These are the IP ranges that he has been known to abuse: IPv4 Ranges: 66.87.64.0/18, 192.0.0.0/3, 116.48.192.0/20, 42.0.0.0/9, 68.0.0.0/7, 168.0.0.0/5, 1.202.120.0/21, 64.0.0.0/4, 124.127.64.0/20, 50.0.0.0/8, 65.50.192.0/19, 93.114.40.0/21, 75.127.0.0/20, 192.241.128.0/17, 205.186.128.0/18, 66.117.0.0/20, 192.241.128.0/17,

IPv6 Ranges: 2600:100f:b000::/39, 2602:304:af2c::/48, 2602:304:6e02::/48, 2602:304:ce27::/48, 2600:1000:b000::/36, 2600:1010:b120::/44, 2602:30a:2e3e:e400::/64, 2600:100d:b000::/42, 2002:da5c:fc19::/64, 2600:1013:b000::/44, and 2600:1:f440::/44 (also abused by other LTAs).

List of User:IPhonehurricane95 socks. Added by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Apparently, all of those sock users originated from User:IPhonehurricane95 (including User:Typhoonwikihelper). I would not be surprised if he creates a new account, or switched to a different IP to continue vandalizing Wikipedia. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

User:IPhonehurricane95 Sockpuppet investigations Any and all future investigations related to this guy, and his socks should all be on this page. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:46, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

IP Range contributions

IPv4 IP Range Calculator

IPv6 Rangeblock Calculator Posted by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 10:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Update: In mid-August 2014, he apologized, at my talk page on Commons! Face-grin.svg I know how rare that is, but ever since he made that apology, he hasn't made one disruptive edit on Wikipedia ever since!

-It's unfortunate that IPh95 returned to sock afterward. I don't know if he is still socking right now (or plans to), but I hope that he can finally end this disruptive behavior for good. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:24, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Other Sockmasters

User:Hurricane Luis Sockpuppet investigations Keeping a close eye on User:Hurricane Luis for his suspected involvement in the recent persistent sockpuppetry on Tropical Cyclone-related articles on Wikipedia. Update: It turns out that Hurricane Luis is innocent, but most of the other named accounts are obviously all related and abused by 3 different sockmasters. See the SPI archives of the linked page for more details. LightandDark2000 (talk) 10:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

109.155.240.0/20 - User:Mr Wiki Pro's IP Range. See his SPI investigations case page for more information on his current socking activities. LightandDark2000 (talk)

-Note: Mr Wiki Pro quit sockpuppeteering in Summer 2015, and has since returned to contribute under a new username. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:43, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Current Lightning Sabre (UnderArmourKid sockfarm vandal) IP Ranges (not all are listed): 201.219.232.0/21, 191.119.0.0/16, 191.116.0.0/16, 190.100.144.0/20, and 190.101.0.0/17 (not as active). Ranges are current as of February 2018. See UnderArmourKid sockpuppet investigations for current and recent SPI cases involving this sockmaster. A note to new admins or users: this guy appears to admire IPhonehurricane95's vandalism, and has even based his sockfarm on an earlier IPh95 sock: User:UnderArmourKid. Also, if you check his edits, you will see that his vandalism and unblock threats are very similar to some of IPh95's vandalism from 2014 and 2016. Their editing interests also overlap in tropical cyclones and some other apparel companies, so make sure to check those articles often. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Current Vandyrandy IP Ranges: 174.199.0.0/18, 97.33.64.0/20, and 2600:1000:B000::/36. Given this vandal's history of persistent cross-wiki abuse and personal attacks, the ranges need to be Globally Rangeblocked for multiple months each time they are abused. Vandyrandy is also known to use proxy IPs, which should be Globally Rangeblocked if spotted. See Vandyrandy sockpuppet investigations for SPI cases involving this LTA. It should be noted that this user is known for Neo-Nazi vandalism and ideology. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:33, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Current TryToBeFunny IP Ranges: 176.221.96.0/19 and 2600:6C64:617F:F8EB::/64. The first IP range also appears to be an open proxy network. TrytoBeFunny/BlyatPutin is known for creating spambot accounts, and repeatedly spamming multiple Wikipedia articles with spam categories, spam text, or spam-only templates (created by the LTA), in addition to adding obscenities. Since this user's spamming involves cross-wiki abuse, any rangeblocks enacted will need to be Global Rangeblocks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Current Black magic specialist Spammer LTA IP Ranges: 117.119.0.0/16, 117.200.0.0/16, 117.201.0.0/16, 106.192.192.0/19 (not as frequently used), and 2600:8800:3981:7A80:0:0:0:0/64 (not used often). Note that the network provider uses the entire range of 117.192.0.0/10. See this linked report at SRG and next 3 related reports on the page below that one, for an idea of the extent of the abuse by this spammer. In short, this LTA is known for spamming, and mass socking/spambot creation across multiple Wikimedia sites. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:11, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Re: Help.[edit]

You can either ask an administrator like Hurricanehink or go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Jason Rees (talk) 13:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:10, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

The Weather Channel and Winter Storm naming[edit]

If you plan on introducing the two articles you have in your userspace then you need to get consensus first before adding TWC names. Right now consensus has been not to include them as they are not a WP:NPOV. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:20, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I understand. That's why the articles are currently in my userspace. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:28, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Okay thanks! I value the amount of work you have put into the articles and love the idea of adding more storms but TWC names and terms like "Super-storm" and such have caused multiple discussions here on Wikipedia. If you do choose to start another discussion about the issues to get a recent consensus just ping me. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Alright. The problem with those terms is that most people really don't understand their true meanings, or the real intent of the TWC's winter storm naming. But yes, I'll continue to contribute and add more info as time passes. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:41, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Just a welcome to the WikiProject[edit]

Hurricane Kate (2003)- Good pic.jpg Please accept this invitation to join the Tropical cyclones WikiProject (WPTC), a WikiProject dedicated to improving all articles associated with tropical cyclones. WPTC hosts some of Wikipedia's highest-viewed articles, and needs your help for the upcoming cyclone season. Simply click here to accept! Hurricane Isabel 18 sept 2003 1555Z.jpg

Hi, LightandDark2000. I noticed that you have edited some articles in the Tropical Cyclones WikiProject and trying to save them and make them good. So, I believe that you should be in the group, even though you like Science, same as me actually. I have joined you now and I know that you will help Wikipedia. Have a good day. Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:11, 28 March 2014 UTC

Thanks! I am more than happy to accept. Face-grin.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Rules Concerning Sockpuppetry Investigation Activites[edit]

Listed below are the rules concerning SPI activites, provided by DoRD (talk). These rules apply to non-administrator users​:

  1. Do not tag accounts as sockpuppets or confirmed sockpuppets. Leave it to the blocking admin, or Checkuser.
  2. Do not report already-blocked sockpuppets - you may only report new, unblocked sockpuppets.
  3. Do not edit archived cases. Ever. For any reason.
  4. Do not continue to request rangeblocks when you have been told that they are not possible. A Checkuser will place one if/when a Rangeblock is deemed possible and effective.
  5. Do not create or request the creation of sockpuppet categories.
  6. Do not alter tags or merge SPI-related pages, even if it has been requested by another user. In other words, do not alter any SPI-related page outside of active sock reports, even if you think that there has been a mistake. If you believe that a change is necessary, consult an admin and leave it to them. If you think that there has been an obvious error, take the matter to an admin and wait for their explicit permission; if declined, drop the matter altogether. Do not revert any edits or make any changes unless there is obvious, blatant vandalism.

Failure to comply with these rules may result in the loss of editing privileges, through a block. Drafted by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png So sorry to hear that you've been harassed by User:Mr Wiki Pro's newest sockpuppet. You're not alone. He's been doing the EXACT same things to me! Hang in there; keep reporting him every time he makes his presence known, if he's not blocked by then. Meanwhile, here's a beer to cheer you up! :) —This lousy T-shirt— (talk) 06:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't drink in real life, but here, I'll accept. :) ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Heh heh. Oh I'm sure he'll get reblocked (yep, each and every stinkin' time). I just hope that he doesn't stick around long enough to cause any serious damage. ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: barnstar[edit]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you've taken to the site, and you continue to do good work. If you ever need any help with anything, I check my watchlist once every five minutes :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. If I have any questions or concerns, I will come and ask you for help. Thanks ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 09:59, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, Happy Easter! ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:23, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the new barnstar! :) Don't think that because I'm editing less that I'm going anywhere. I'm just incredibly busy with my music work (as I warned on my user page, hehe). September, I'll be getting lots more work done, I promise! Thanks again, and keep up the editing yourself. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey, just keep up with the contributions, alright? Face-wink.svg I mean, it's understandable if you're busy with your music, but just drop by whenever you have the chance. Wikipedia is in terrible need of Wikipedians like you. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Aww :) Thanks! I'm always around though. I've tried too many times to leave to know that I'll never do so. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
That's similar to how I used to be when I was still an IP editor. ;) But eventually, I decided to stick around, and I quickly took on my user account as my primary mode of contributing. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

User page cleanup[edit]

LightandDark2000, thank you for removing personal information from a userpage, which I'm not linking, but please be sure to make a report per the instructions here if you find anything like that again. Be sure to look at the instructions there for what should and what shouldn't be reported, though. This one doesn't need to be reported because I've already taken care of it. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:15, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. As for the reporting part, I didn't know about that. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Comment at May 2014 San Diego County wildfires[edit]

Hi, Lightand Dark! I'll make this comment here at your talk page, instead of the article's talk page, so that you can delete it and it won't become part of the permanent record. First of all, calm down; no one has attacked you or accused you of vandalism. However, as long as we are reminding each other of Wikipedia principles, could I request you to learn how to cite references as references, instead of as bare urls?[1] I have been fixing them to put them into normal Wikipedia style, but that's something you should learn to do as well. The easiest way to do that is to click the "cite" button in the row of links at the top of the edit page, choose a format (such as "news" or "web"), and fill in the blanks (for news, at a minimum "url", "title", "publication date" and "newspaper" which can also mean TV station or whatever). Then position your cursor at the point in the article where you want the reference to go and click "add citation". That's important! If you forget to click "add citation" before previewing or saving, the information will be lost and you will have to do it again. Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 13:15, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I don't have all that much time to create a full citation each time I link a reference, and even when I do, it doesn't always turn out the right way. Hopefully, I'll be able to improve on my citation skills. :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

A cheese wheel for you![edit]

Cheese Wheel illustration.png A hard-earned cheese wheel of the finest quality
Enjoy this cheese wheel for your hard work fighting vandalism.... you've earned it! Dustin (talk) 03:28, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! I appreciate it very much! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:38, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
No problem! Face-grin.svg Dustin (talk) 05:39, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Additional facts for you![edit]

Hi, I can see your facts section, and its good. I would like you to include the Hercules–Corona Borealis Great Wall. It is astonishing...

Also, a friend told me that IC 1101's size decreased by a factor of 4. So it is no longer the largest galaxy known.... Johndric Valdez (talk) 10:16, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I will add that as soon as I can. Face-smile.svg As for IC 1101, I haven't found anything on the internet confirming that yet. LightandDark2000 (talk) 14:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
I've found confirmation, it's on its article. It's mentioned that "The galaxy's diffuse stellar halo light extends to at least 1.4 million light years" from the 5.6 million light year measure. Some galaxies have sizes of 3 million light years. Some large galaxies are A2261-BCG and ESO 146-IG 005. Johndric Valdez (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh. I had no idea! Since I don't have all that much time (and since you obviously have access to more resources than I do), can you please update that article as well as those mentioning the largest galaxies? I would also love it if you could also tell me which galaxy scientists now believe to be the largest in the Universe (and please link the article). Thanks! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:26, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
The article has been updated, and it turns out that IC 1101 is still the largest known galaxy in existence. IC 1101 is about 2.8 million light-years across (with the revised size), while NGC 262, the second-largest galaxy (and oddly, a Spiral Galaxy), is only 2.6 million light-years across. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I know that, because I myself updated it. It seems that you just reported an info to the one whom you get that info. Hahaha...
I am not exactly sure if IC 1101 is still the largest, but it appears. After two years of searching and analysis I just don't get a galaxy reaching IC 1101's revised size. The largest I've found is NGC 262 as you have mentioned. I was surprised that it was a spiral. The journal by Morris et al says that it was the neutral hydrogen halo which is very large. It is intriguing, because a year ago NASA reported their "largest spiral" NGC 6872 which spans 522,000 light years, which makes NGC 262 very cunning as it was only one fourth of the size of the latter. I myself linked NGC 262 in its article. But back to IC 1101, I am not sure because I am not conducting any galaxy searches or have any links to sky surveys like SDSS. I am not even an astronomer; just a Grade 8 student in an odd town. Who knows maybe SDSS already found a galaxy spanning 10 million light years? The whole assumption is that IC 1101 is the largest I've found so far. But hey, thanks buddy! SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC) (PS: I am Johndric Valdez, just on a different account)
Hi LightandDark2000, the Condor Galaxy (NGC 6872) is the largest-known galaxy and we have just had a paper accepted last week on the Astrophysical Journal describing it in detail. I have just checked on the GALEX data and NGC 262, with current Hubble constant only has a diameter of 62,000 ly. The references you have cited with its distance and size are from the 80's and are quite outdated. Is there anyway we could exchange emails? I would love to discuss it with you in details. I am not used to rewrite Wikipedia articles, but I am afraid we need to do that ASAP for both the Condor and NGC 262's page. Would you please help me on this? It is quite easy to see that the Condor is considerably larger than NGC 262, since they are approximately at the same distance, but the Condor has a disk of approximately 8.5 arcminutes in length, as NGC 262's is only 1.1 arcminute long. Rafaeleufrasio (talk) 03:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
I think you mean largest Spiral Galaxy. I actually don't have that much time at the moment, so I won't be able to look into it immediately. However, from what I have gleaned in this short period of time, it appears that NGC 6872's size is somewhat controversial, and that the current scientific consensus is that NGC 262 is currently the largest Spiral Galaxy out there. However, the stats may differ somewhat between sources, because NGC 6872 is currently undergoing a galactic merging with another galaxy. More solid data needs to be gathered from reliable sources before any major changes, like the one you proposed, can be implemented. In any case, I think that we need some more info. But if anything new comes up, feel free to keep me updated. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 Done! I finally added the Hercules–Corona Borealis Great Wall to my collections of fun facts/trivia. Sorry about the delay. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:31, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

RE:‎TC Article intro spacing[edit]

Its the only way to avoid so much white spacing so early in the year, especially since there are no Seasonal Forecasts for the NIO and so few systems.Jason Rees (talk) 10:45, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you, but...[edit]

...why whenever someone invites you to an IRC channel, do you only wait like 30 seconds before leaving? You are still completely anonymous, and you can talk about things at a much higher rate. All communication is done purely using text, so what's the problem? I mean, you could be a bit more patient, that's all. Dustin (talk) 00:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Eh... I haven't been to an IRC chat for quite some time, neither have I received an invitation to one since then. It might give it another go at a later time, but currently, I'm in the progress of finishing a massive editing project. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:54, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, if you ever want to try, then if you see my name, "DustinVS", just type "DustinVS" into the comment bar to ping me. You should try #wikipedia-coffeehouse connect. If you do, again, just type "DustinVS" into the comment bar (without the quotes). Dustin (talk) 01:06, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Sure. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Also, you don't need an invitation to visit an IRC channel, and it isn't rude to visit without one. Dustin (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. What I'm saying is... It's just been a long time. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Your userpage[edit]

No government on Earth has ever achieved communism. The USSR, China, and Cuba were never communist, but were what is commonly called "Stalinist" and "Maoist" after the dictators who did those things in the "name" of communism. It appears that what you did with this edit is likely based on misinformation. I just thought I ought to say... Dustin (talk) 01:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

That's true in a sense, given the original tenets of Communism. Anyhow, those governments are all labeled as Communist... But regardless, I hate their ideology and practices. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
The ideology has good intentions though; it has just had many extremely corrupted versions of it used in practice. As quoted from the article Communism: "Marxism-Leninism was made into the official ideology of the Comintern, and exported to other countries. This body of thought formed the basis for the most clearly visible communist movement in the 20th century and, as such, in the Western world, the term "communism" came to refer to social movements and states associated with the Comintern. However, these states did not develop communism, and the degree to which they had achieved socialism is debated." What you hate so much is not really communism. Communism is a failure in practice because people in the world are too corrupt, the reason for which the ideology is unattainable. Dustin (talk) 01:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I get that. We had discussions on this in World History class. However, I really don't like the idea of "equal everything." I prefer to have economic competition, which provides motivation. But the "result" of Communism has largely been pure bull crap... And I hate it. "Communist governments" nearly killed off my grandparents, which only adds more to my hatred of said governments. But regardless, I'm so glad that America is Capitalist/Democratic. If not, I would probably be doomed to a miserable life. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Ugh... some teachers say things about communism and equality, but that is a bad way to put it in my opinion, and may easily be misinterpreted. Communism doesn't promote "equal everything" as you put it. Like I said, no real government has been communist; they just claimed such. A real communist country has never existed, and one never shall exist. I still think you misunderstand me, but enough. Those terrible people gave the original ideology known as communism a bad name, and now some refuse to look at its original purpose. I am not advocating that any governments in the world ought to adopt the ideology though, because it does not work. I just don't like you pinning all the blame on Communism rather than on Stalinism, Maoism, etc. and on the dictators themselves, being Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc.
On a side note, I do think the US government ought to change given the terrible economic disparity and the ever-widening gap between the rich and poor, but I will not say more about that subject here. The US government is still far better than many governments in the world in places such as Africa and parts of the Middle-East for example. Perhaps you do understand me, and I am just misunderstanding you; if so, I apologize. Dustin (talk) 01:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, yes! I agree that our government is better than most (if not all) governments in the world in general. However, our economy needs to change (albeit, not into a non-Capitalist one), and it is in need of some dire reforms. An economist predicted that if our economy doesn't stop being a "for the rich and by the rich" economy, we will experience a double-dip crisis in 2016 that will make the Great Depression seem like child's play. That really frightens me, and I sure hope that we can avoid it, because if we can't, then we (and pretty much everyone else in America) are screwed. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
That is a problem in the world... If you ever decide to use it at some point, we could discuss this more on IRC without worrying about going off-topic too much... by the way, I like part of your userpage design; I have my own "Interesting facts" section on my user page. I just thought I should say. Dustin (talk) 01:48, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Continued in the section below

Userpage designs[edit]

Thanks! Face-smile.svg And I'll probably go look at your user page really soon. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I also have a featured picture which I change every once and a while. I have a lot of versions: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
5, 7, and 15 are some of my favorites. So, what do you think? Is it a good idea in your opinion? Thanks! Dustin (talk) 03:38, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Wow! Those pictures are awesome! I really like them, and I even have a couple of favorites (I may elaborate more on this later). Face-grin.svg But hey, I think that it's a really good idea. You should keep rotating photos, they're very cool and they're bound to get more traction. I wonder where you got some of those... I think that you've done a great job with the images, and you should just keep up the good work. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I was trying to find a way of moving my featured picture just slightly higher up on my userpage, but I can't at the moment because my primary, right-side userbox is in the way. Thanks for the complements though! Maybe I'll keep a record of my featured pictures somewhere. What do you think? I love using satellite images from NASA (especially Aqua/MODIS and Terra/MODIS) and NOAA View (Suomi NPP). I also use a few pictures I have taken myself with my camera, and I am trying to find out how to better focus wide-view images when using it (I took a picture of the Rio Grande from Overlook Point in New Mexico, but there was already an older image with better better from 2006 although it had a lower resolution. I have only used images I uploaded up to this point, by the way, but I uploaded them all on Wikimedia Commons, so you are free to use them. #8 I took myself, and #12 I created from a PNG myself (SVGs are better because they have infinite scalability!). The EVL images (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15) have special crops which usually (although I think there is one exception) allow them to be used as desktop backgrounds, and they tend to work a little bit better (usually) as featured pictures because they approach the maximum image size while fitting on a screen (at least screens I have tested on). That's why they tend to make some of the best featured pictures (the majority of my FPs so far have been EVL as a matter of fact). You know how you have always had that picture of Hurricane Sandy on your page? If you wanted to (although this would be purely your decision, of course), you could swap out for new pictures in a similar way to how I do. You wouldn't necessarily have to use only your own uploads as I do, but I do think it would look neat. Those are just some of my thoughts. Again, I'm glad you like the idea! Face-smile.svg Dustin (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Also, when you reply, please use {{ping|Dustin V. S.}} to ping me so can I respond more quickly. While I am watching your page, pinging me will still allow me to see your response more quickly. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 15:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
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No additional thoughts? If so, please just say so. I was hoping that you'd have something to say, but if not, I'd like you to say so so I stop expecting. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 03:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Oh, sorry! I was kind of busy yesterday. But I believe that you could solve your "picture problem" by either moving it above your userboxes, or consolidating your userboxes in a vertical manner, using several columns using the organizing template, and then either leaving them where they are or moving them below your picture. As for my userpage, I don't really want to change my picture that often. I was going to change it, but I'm not sure if the picture I want to use is copyrighted; if it is, that could be a problem. LightandDark2000 (talk) 18:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Could you link the image? I might be able to tell you whether or not it is available for use on your Wikipedia page. Dustin (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
It is not available on Commons yet. I was considering uploading it, but I wasn't sure of the Copyright status. Anyhow, here is a link to the image. It's only one of a few sites with that image. I believe that it might be the work of a CalTech student, which if it is the case, then yes, I will be able to use it. But I haven't double-checked all of the sites yet, so I can't be sure. LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: Heh... "It is not available on Commons yet." Does this help? I don't know the validity of the licensing, but I think it is safe to use considering that it has been on Wikimedia Commons for five years. Face-smile.svg Dustin (talk) 20:55, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, it does. Face-grin.svg By the way, you don't need to ping me. Each time you leave a message or make any changes to my talk page, I can see it in the huge red notification at the top of my screen. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I am actually aware of that. I pinged you because I wanted you to respond (Would you please take a five second break from editing and look at this?), but you just kept on editing anyway, and I could see that you weren't adding "just in" information or something like that. Not to seem impatient, but that's my reason. Dustin (talk) 21:05, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Hey, dude. I just did. You can see the result on my user page right now, if you want to. Face-wink.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
And by the way, thanks for the help! Face-grin.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, it's not a problem. Face-wink.svg Also, by the way, I notice that the Milky Way image is slightly larger; maybe if you made it slightly smaller? It's an excellent image, but in having that more squarish shape, it doesn't fit as well on some screens. It's just an observation, though, and you don't have to take any action if you don't want to. Dustin (talk) 21:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 Done. I even centered the image to make it look better. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Actually, LightandDark, in including "center" in the main thumbnail, use of the <center> element is unnecessary. It does look a little bit better because you made it smaller, though. Dustin (talk) 21:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I didn't know that. But yeah, it definitely looks a lot better now, from both my desktop and my smartphone. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I decided that as much as I loved the new Milky Way picture, my close-up image of the Andromeda–Milky Way collision describes my nature much better. PS, I anticipate the day when our two galaxies will merge into one, bigger Lenticular galaxy. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back![edit]

Your input has been missed at the Wildfire articles. You might find they need some updating. --MelanieN (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Probably. I guess that there's some more work for me to do. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I thought I'd say since it seems this meets your interest...[edit]

...I saw the recent total lunar eclipse which peaked where I live at 5:55 AM Central Daylight Time (about 25 mins before this comment), and I took pictures and whatnot too, although they are not great because the moon is partly shaded by pesky cirrus clouds in the way. I just thought I'd bring this up just in case, and because I wasn't sure if any pictures or anything are needed, or if NASA just takes pictures or something. That's all. Dustin (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Cool! I happen to be watching the Total Lunar Eclipse right now, as I have been for the past hour (About 4:45 AM PDT right now in Southern California). I took pictures as well, maybe I might upload a couple. LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh![edit]

Hi There LightAndDark2000! I saw your recent edits to the article mentioned above and thought you may like to join WP:YGO. Contact me on the talk page there if you're interested. TF { Contribs } 18:26, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:28, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Good Article Nomination[edit]

As the other most frequent contributor to the American-led intervention in Syria article I just wanted to let you know that I have nominated the article for Good Article status. I know that both of our hard work on the article has helped improve it and I do hope that it gets GA status. Thanks again! - SantiLak (talk) 22:19, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem! By the way, I hope that it passes the nomination. Face-wink.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguation page naming[edit]

Greetings! Please review WP:INTDABLINK, which explains why it is necessary to pipe intentional links to disambiguation pages through a "(disambiguation)" redirect. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

And I'll second this. Please review WP:INTDABLINK. The base title page (Superstorm) should never redirect to the (disambiguation) page (Superstorm (disambiguation)). The disambiguation page always belongs at the base title when there is no WP:PRIMARY topic. This is spelled out at WP:DABNAME. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 05:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC) (last sentence added at 05:27 UTC)
As BD2412 requested above, please see WP:INTDABLINK before attempting to "fix" any additional links to disambiguation pages by bypassing redirects. Thanks! —David Levy 12:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you![edit]

Cheeseburger.png For edits at War on Terror, I hereby present to you this cheeseburger. May it fuel your continued edits on Wikipedia. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:45, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much!!! I will most definitely keep up my contributions. Face-grin.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Good work on the (2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya) article. Hashima20 (talk) 08:54, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey, thanks!!! I really appreciate it. Face-grin.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:55, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan merge discussion close[edit]

You forgot to procedurally close the merge discussion so today another vote was cast by an editor. Here is the instruction on how to close it with the proper templates [2]. EkoGraf (talk) 20:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

A page you started (Battle of Baiji (October–November 2014)) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Battle of Baiji (October–November 2014), LightandDark2000!

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Hey, thanks! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

May I ask you something?[edit]

Thank you for the map about Libya. Do you have a map about Sinai insurgency? Is the Islamic State occupying some rural areas or cities in Sinai Peninsula? --햄방이 (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

The Wilayat Sinai branch of ISIL most likely occupies pockets of territory in northern and eastern Sinai. Unfortunately, I don't have a map for territorial control in the Sinai. If I do come across one, though, I will post a link to it so that other users can generate a map with it. However, if you want to search for such a map on the web, you are more than welcome to. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:51, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Here is a link to a map I generated detailing Wilayat Sinai's territorial control in the Sinai Peninsula, if you are still interested. And you can also view the Detailed map of the Sinai insurgency, the source module from which the map image is derived. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Some falafel for you![edit]

Falafel award.png Thanks for the fine edits to the Syria map. You corrected several errors that were present. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 00:23, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much!! Face-grin.svg I greatly appreciate it. By the way, I enjoy correcting errors (not so much the "correcting" part though). :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:25, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar for being such a tireless map updater[edit]

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24.163.57.88 (talk) 16:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Recent Astronomical Events[edit]

I noticed that you added the Jupiter/Venus event to your userpage which will occur tonight, and I also noticed some other things in that section of your userpage. It isn't vital that I post this, but some of those are upcoming, not recent, so maybe you could change the header or add another? I don't care what you do, by the way, I just thought I'd make a suggestion. Dustin (talk)

For "recent" I meant both past and present. Either way, I wan't to make it short and catchy. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Alright, that's fine. I've been able to see the two planets approaching each other (relative to me, that is) in the sky, and I saw you make that change to your userpage, so I thought I would point it out. Dustin (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm doubtful there aren't better pictures, but since they're relevant... [3] :) Dustin (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I noticed that since at least January 2015, you no longer edit weather-related topics anymore in favor of Middle-Eastern topics (you did edit several weather pages in early January, though). I'm not going to dictate what you edit or anything like that, but that's a shame. Face-sad.svg I don't want to get in trouble for going too off-topic or whatever the policy/guideline is though, so I'll just leave it at that. In any case, again, take care. Dustin (talk) 22:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I will be turning more attention to weather topics now, since the Syria frontlines are beginning to go static in areas that I monitor (and to dilute my editing among my topics of interest). It will be a gradual change, but just don't expect me to continue investing all of my editing time in Levant war articles. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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I just want to thank you for being civil. I hope I didn't come across as mean, because I didn't mean it that way. I just want to make sure the wiki map stays within encyclopedic standards. Thanks for the compromise. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 21:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Oh, hey, thanks! I really appreciate this token. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG Bruskom talk to me 19:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Holidays[edit]

Wikipedia Happy New Year.png Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2016!

Hello LightandDark2000, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2016.
Happy editing,
Caballero/Historiador (talk) 09:05, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Oh, hey! Thank you very much. Face-grin.svg Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year as well!! LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:47, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Two articles for consideration to mainspace[edit]

Hey, I was wondering if you would allow me moving your articles about Winter Storm Titan and the March 2014 bomb cyclone to the mainspace? As they are very detailed and thought-out. But just as a reminder, I will have to adjust the articles to comply with Wikipedia's rules so it is not removed (this includes removing TWC's winter storm names from the articles, for example the one on Winter Storm Titan would probably be moved to something like Early March 2014 North American storm complex. --MarioProtIV (talk) 23:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and the see also sections would need to be revised since they are mainly consisting of the articles you have created on your own. But overall, very good edits and contributions to them, in fact, you seem better then me at creating storm articles! :) --MarioProtIV (talk) 19:38, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I've heard from other users that even then, they are still not ready for being moved to Wikipedia main space. Until then, I want to avoid moving the sandbox articles, to prevent them from being deleted or reduced to truncated articles/redirect links by others. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah, okay. But in my opinion, the reason why it would be deleted or reduced would probably be because of your inclusion of TWC's names in an not-so-significant snowstorm (The January 2015 North American blizzard and January 2016 United States blizzard articles are excluded as they were significant/historic snowstorms, and the names Juno and Jonas were mentioned later in their respective articles), which I believe creates copyright issues under WP:TOP100, but other then that, I don't really see any issues except a few links in the references no longer working. --MarioProtIV (talk) 20:33, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Actually, I am considering using the Winter Storm Titan article (and probably the late March bomb cyclone one) to help expand the 2013–14 North American winter page, as it is the least developed out of the 3 winter articles we have. And besides, you have more then enough information in it so you don't have to worry about deletion. I'd have to change it so the article name is different though. --MarioProtIV (talk) 21:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Would appreciate some sort of response soon to give the ok to move this to help expand the winter page. --MarioProtIV (talk) 00:45, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Plot summary lengths[edit]

TV episode plot summaries should be 100-200 words, as specified by WP:TVPLOT and the instructions for {{episode list}}, not 250 words as you've indicated in this edit summary. Where did you get 250 words from? --AussieLegend () 11:20, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

It said upwards of 350, and a number of users have OKed extending it up to 250 words in episodes with complex/major plots. LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
There was some confusing wording that said "with upwards of 350 words for complex storylines", but we agreed over a month ago that this should be removed from the MOS. There is a bit of leeway in the 100-200 word range but this is usually limited to 15-20 words, although this should be only when absolutely necessary. --AussieLegend () 13:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

El Niño article paywall[edit]

With this edit, you indicate that this source shows that El Niño has ended. While I'm not saying I disbelieve you, that article appears to be behind a paywall. Can you provide another source saying the same thing, or perhaps provide some quotes from the article? Sources seem to disagree on when El Niño started (JMA says 2014; NWS says 2015) and ended (some say it has already ended, but NWS still seems to be holding back on such statements for the time being). Thanks. Dustin (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

That's not the source I added. The 2 sources following that link are the ones that I added. (BTW, I didn't realize that the first link was behind a paywall.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I wasn't reading the diff closely enough. There were three sources, and I looked at the only one you didn't add. My mistake. That said, both of your sources indicate that the statement that El Niño has ended can be traced to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology. NOAA has not released its monthly assessment for June yet, so perhaps it will come into agreement with the BoM in the near-future. That said, that would only be speculation, and as such, if you are going to mark the El Niño as ended, you should probably add a note saying there is some disagreement between agencies as to whether or not it has ended yet. Dustin (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
There hasn't been any formal/public disagreement. Also, the SST charts by NOAA indicate that the El Nino is over (I can link it later). LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps, but can you link any specific statements by NOAA saying "El Niño has ended?" It would be better for us to wait for the next update by NOAA to come out on June 9. Dustin (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I don't think that NOAA has released their report yet. I think it's a monthly or bimonthly report, so it may still be a number of days away. When it's released though, I'll cite it, if I can locate the report. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:03, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
As one of the primary editors of the El Nino article, I will jump in here and point a few things out. Firstly each major agency (JMA, BoM, NOAA/IRI etc) that monitors El Nino has its own definition of what is and isnt an El Nino event and when to declare it formed or dissipated etc. This means as a result the JMA declared that it started in summer 2014, while NOAA/IRI declared that it started in 2015, however, NOAA has reclassified 2014 as a marginal event on page 5 of the BAMs State of the Climate 2014 report. Personally in order to avoid these arguments of when the event dissipated, I would prefer putting something along the lines of that it dissipated between April and June 2016, while remembering that we measure ENSO over 3 month cycles. However, in recent days @ABC paulista: and I have been discussing this over the last few days and she has provided me with various arguments as to why we shouldn't do it which have been interesting to read and helped me understand ENSO a bit more.Jason Rees (talk) 11:56, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
NOAA's Climate Prediction Center releases its ENSO analysis weekly, and in their last update they said that El Niño is still present, albeit weaker and weakening, with IRI also supporting it with their last update (twice per month). Also, JMA in their latest outlook stated that El Niño is still ongoing with their index still showing El Niño readings and data. So, considering all this, I think that would be misleading and a little irresonsible to call an end to this event when only one stated that, and all other agencies stating otherwise. ABC paulista (talk) 16:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I actually read the weekly analysis. The reason why I shunted it to the side is that while they do have analysis releases weekly, the statement "El Niño is weakening." can be traced back to the May 12 diagnostic discussion. That statement will not change until at least June 9 (since it is the second Thursday of the month). Dustin (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to see your source for NOAA explicitly calling saying El Niño began in 2014. I have seen multiple recent sources by NOAA that still indicate that JFM 2015 only had 0.4 °C above-normal SSTs. Dustin (talk) 06:29, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Dustin: The 0.4 in JFM is one of the reasons why its only a marginal event. :P Anyway read Pg S5 and you will find them, saying that the final months of 2014 has been reclassified as "marginal El Nino".Jason Rees (talk) 11:31, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
@Jason Rees: It's probably speculation from my part, but the way they used this "marginal El Nino" term there gives me the impression that they wanted to say that the world was on a quasi-El Niño state, so it was almost a El Niño but not quite fully formed. ABC paulista (talk) 14:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @ABC paulista: What are your thoughts on declaring an end to the El Nino, now that NOAA have said goodbye and the JMA are saying that the event likely ended in spring 2016 but are probably waiting for five months to be up.Jason Rees (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

@Jason Rees: Since both NOAA and JMA declared that El Niño ended, I think that we can do it too. ABC paulista (talk) 16:08, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

That makes 3 agencies (JMA, NOAA, and BoM). A Google search will also show that the common consensus among most agencies (those that released their reports) and other analysts is that the El Nino episode ended in May 2016. We shouldn't leave the article outdated just because 1 or 2 agencies have yet to release their reports. The 3 agencies I mentioned so far are enough to put some kind of closure on the article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 16:12, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Acctully LightandDark2000 I personally felt that it was better that we waited for @ABC paulista:'s opinion, since today's JMA report only says that it has likely ended in spring 2016. This is because he/she was not happy to shut it down just based on the BoM declaration of El Nino gone, which is what most of the sources you provided were based on. I also do not feel that the article would be outdated if the JMA had turned around today and said that the El Nino event is still ongoing.Jason Rees (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Regular SST maps released by the NOAA indicate that the El Nino is over. LightandDark2000 (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
ABCPaulista provided his/her opinion above, and made the changes to the article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict)It is useless arguing about it now since ABC has commented and put it in, but as I think you know we have to be careful interpreting maps especially of the SSTs since different datasets yield different data. As a result it is wiser to stick to declarations by the agencies involved then interrupting them ourselves or relying on the media's interpretation especially when they are trying to be Careful with what they say.Jason Rees (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
@Jason Rees: and @LightandDark2000:, JMA said in their last outlook that "These oceanic and atmospheric conditions indicate that the El Niño conditions faded away in spring 2016." That, combined with their statement of "El Niño event, which had persisted since boreal summer 2014, is likely to have ended in spring 2016." and with their monitoring data and historical data graphs showing that the plot is outside of the red-shaded are, indicate that the ENSO is not in its warm phase anymore. So it`s very indicative that for them this El Niño ended. ABC paulista (talk) 23:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

@LightandDark2000: Keep in mind that these three agencies are the main ones that monitore ENSO as a whole and the only ones that does this regularly, with the other agencies and media basing their opinions and outlooks on the opinion of at least 1 of these 3 (mostly NOAA/CPC), so we don`t need to rush a decision to "start" or "end" an ENSO event based on only one agency, or precipitate, or antecipate, a declaration of such magnitude, and we shouldn't get used to such predictive actions since we can't quite forsee what action a agency would have, since these agencies use different methods and take into account different indexes when measuring ENSO. Thus, I think that we should only say that the ENSO event started when the very first of these three agencies declare its arrival and finish when the very last of these three agencies declares its dissipation. This way, we can avoid things like WP:WEIGHT and WP:POV, just like I discussed earlier with @Jason Rees:. ABC paulista (talk) 23:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

And @LightandDark2000: I think you should lessen with that "Google it" attitude, since such argument is not objective whatsoever and leave too much room for personal interpretation and subjectivity. If you`re trying to make a point or an argument, it`s your burden to present the sources, not for the others to go look for them. And I really believe that looking for media or other meteorological agencies outside NOAA, BoM and JMA for ENSO wouldn`t be fruitful since all other base their outlooks on these three. ABC paulista (talk) 23:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

That's interesting. I think that those 3 are pretty much the big ones out there. LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
It is interesting to note that the 3 major players for ENSo puublish in english @ABC paulista:... I do cpeersonally wonder about Meteo France with its two Pacific island nations....
@Jason Rees: They preety much use the same criteria of NOAA's Niño 3.4, but they don't give much info or details about the conceptual aspects of ENSO. They focus on the predicted effects on the French-speaking nations by some models, which include models from the National Centers for Environmental Prediction and JMA. I'm not sure about their database, tho. ABC paulista (talk) 02:21, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Wildfire[edit]

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Hello! I have recently started a new WikiProject and am trying to recruit new members. The project, WikiProject Wildfire, focuses on articles that relate to wildfires. There is a lot of work that needs to be done. From updating templates, to classifying and improving articles. Any level of commitment is welcome! If you care to just add some input on the founding of the new project, awesome. If you would like to take an active role in editing articles, that is awesome as well! Knowledge of wildfires is NOT a prerequisite for joining the project. In fact, it would be great to have some members of the project who are NOT fire-buffs. That way we make sure that articles aren't just written by and for people in the fire community. If this is something you have any interest in, I would love to have you join the project! Please feel free to join the discussion or leave me a message on my talk page. (Note that you are receiving this message from me because I saw you made multiple edits on a wildfire related page, specifically May 2014 San Diego County wildfires. Not just spamming you at random.) Hope you have a great day! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

It's a wonderful idea! Face-grin.svg I joined, but when users join the WikiProject, they should sign their username with ~~~~, which is done on other WikiProjects. LightandDark2000 (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, LightandDark2000![edit]

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Thanks, man! Have a Happy New Year too! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
No problem! See you around. Dustin (talk) 02:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Deir ez-Zor siege article[edit]

Should we have an article on ISIL's Deir ez-Zor siege (since July 14, 2014, when they expelled all of the remaining rebels)? And if so, could you maybe make a starter one when you have the time? EkoGraf (talk) 04:58, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey, I was thinking the same thing! Unfortunately, I won't have time to do the bulk of the article work until August, due to my classes. I can, however, start an article and maybe add some content by late March. I'll try to start the article, and see how it goes. (The new article would basically encompass the scope and topics of all the Deir ez-Zor articles generated from mid-2014 to the present). LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Siege of Deir ez-Zor (2014–17). Okay, here is the link. Now we'll have to tally up all of the casualties and losses for both sides (including the prominent commanders). LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:02, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Someone already started the article, but I decided to add in some more information (including a tally of overall statistics). LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:26, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Great! :) EkoGraf (talk) 22:02, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Fun Facts[edit]

So, I saw your Fun Facts on your main page, and your first one being That the Universe is approximately 94 billion light-years across in diameter?, and it reminded me of some maths I did some time ago.

Did you know, if the universe was shrunk so small that the diameter of the Solar System was down to the size of a ping-pong ball, then the Universe would still be 1.77 billion miles in diameter? That's a ping-pong ball between the Sun and Uranus. Just an interesting tit-bit. Face-smile.svg (There's space battles going on out there somewhere.) -- AlexTW 14:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

That's cool. I never really though of it that way. Face-grin.svg (The Universe is still expanding, the rate of which is accelerating, so that ratio's probably going to change a bit.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that's just a rough approximation with a ton of rounding, but it'd definitely change. Really puts things into perspective! -- AlexTW 14:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to MILHIST[edit]

Try the mountains[edit]

Removing villages on the Syrian map is a good way to keep map size down. However, the easiest way to do this without removing settlement data is to remove mountains and hills that are far behind the frontlines. Many of the hills in Latakia province and west of Palmyra could be erased without taking away anything important from the map. Do you agree? TheNavigatrr (talk) 00:48, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, of course. Some mountain peaks and hills should be kept, but a large number of them can be removed. Unfortunately, the problem has grown so large that many of the villages have to go as well. The Afrin and Latakia areas could seriously use some cleanup, for starters. BTW, this discussion should go under the heading in the Syrian Civil War map's talk page, because this is such a big issue. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:52, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

New LTA case[edit]

In June, you requested that a new LTA opened, and I have created it: WP:Long-term abuse/UnderArmourKid. ☆ Bri (talk) 06:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

June 2011 North American winter storm[edit]

I noticed that one of your sandboxes is User:LightandDark2000/June 2011 North American winter storm, which might lie within the scope of another article I have been on-and-off working on since April 2016. That other article aside, why is this a winter storm? I tried to look it up and could not find sources documenting the event. Master of Time (talk) 23:20, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Turns out I was off by a year on the draft I was talking about, which is for the 2011–12 North American winter. I did create a different draft at Draft:2010–11 North American winter that I mostly intended to work on after finishing the 2011–12 article (it is in mainspace now), though. The main part of what I said still stands; what you wrote doesn't seem to suggest anything about winter-type precipitation. Master of Time (talk) 23:39, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

It is a winter storm due to the nature/type of the storm, not because of the time of the year. Also, before I can seriously expand the article, I need to dig up more info on the storm and its impacts, both from web sources and from my own memory. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:13, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
As for your draft contents, just shift the dates/info appropriately. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:13, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Winter season articles[edit]

Do you think it would be helpful to have a general article for winters in North America? Even if a short one, one that maybe describes common trends in such winters and/or how ENSO affects it? It's something I was considering, since there is really no "general" article for the series located at Category:North American winters. Thoughts? Master of Time (talk) 03:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to start one. Though if you do, I suggest that you have enough information for it to be somewhat substantial (more than a stub), otherwise there's a good chance someone will put it up for merging or deletion. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:47, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Re: Eastern Syria campaign[edit]

Yeah, perhaps there should be an article on the campaign that starts with the breaking of the Siege of Deir ez-Zor. It would encompass sub-articles such as the newly-created Battle of Deir ez-Zor article that covers the period since the breaking of the siege, its own sub-article on the Euphrates crossing, as well as the Mayadin offensive article. PS Yeah I closed off the Central Syria campaign since Qaryatain was captured. :) EkoGraf (talk) 12:08, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

I think that it should start after the end of the current Battle of Deir ez-Zor, when the Syrian Army makes their final advance on the last ISIL positions in eastern Syria. Actually, we could start one that begins with the Mayadin offensive (the first major Syrian Army attack after the Central Syria campaign began wrapping up). LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:10, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
By the way, you should begin cutting out some old discussions on your talk page, or archiving them. Your talk page is becoming extremely long, to the point where it is taking longer to load than some articles. (It is roughly the same size as the Battle of Mosul article, which is saying a lot.) If it gets too long, it could become extremely difficult for you or others to edit it, not to mention that it might cause the page to crash. LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:12, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice! EkoGraf (talk) 12:55, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

@EkoGraf: I think you should go ahead and start the Eastern Syria campaign (2017–present) article. The best I can do right now would be a stub article, and I really don't want to see this article redirected or deleted soon after its creation. I can probably add more to the article next month, if it has been created by then, but I can't carry out any large-scale additions right now that may require extensive research. Things are really heating up right now in the middle Euphrates Valley, and if we wait too long, there may not be enough stimulus left for users to construct a quality article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:20, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Eastern Syria campaign (September 2017–present) - link to the article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Steward Requests[edit]

Regarding your request, your best bet would be to go to m:SRG, I think. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:03, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 13:10, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For all your great work with October 2007 California wildfires!!! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 09:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Reverting Page Moves[edit]

@EkoGraf: How exactly did you do that? Whenever I tried to revert page moves, I've always failed (except for maybe 1 or 2 times, when I reverted immediately after the move was done). There is an article I'm eyeing that I would like to revert, because the current title is the result of a page move war. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:42, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no idea hehehehe. I simply went to the article's move option. I didn't think it would actually work since I was moving it to its previous/old title, and I know from previous attempts that an article will not move back to an old title because of the redirect, but for some reason it worked hehehe. Maybe, as you yourself said, it worked because I did it only around 12 hours after you made the move. Anyway, I hope the new campaign article is nicely constructed now. EkoGraf (talk) 08:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for December 2017 Southern California wildfires[edit]

Gnome globe current event.svgOn 13 December 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article December 2017 Southern California wildfires, which you substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. James (talk/contribs) 06:52, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Cool! I'll bring up some articles in the future, if I find the chance to do so. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:59, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You are kicking some serious butt with all the contributions to fire articles. Keep up the great work!!! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I just felt that someone needed to update/improve those articles. I'm happy to help out! Face-grin.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Re: Cyclone Ockhi[edit]

Hey there LightandDark (is LaD ok for shorthand?). I don't edit tropical cyclone articles much these days. I'm more interested in articles closer to home for me, not mother nature's destructive potential. However, I'm looking for users to mentor. Would you be interested in such an arrangement? I can give plenty of suggestions for how to turn the article on Ochki into a good article. If you're interested, make a dedicated user subpage for the project. If not, look around, but editorshop is thin these days, and it might be a while before Ochki is improved. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't think I have enough time for a full mentorship right now. However, I would certainly appreciate a few tips on how to improve the Ochki article (it already looks good to me in many ways, but the supposed copyright issue is a real problem). :) When I have time, I'll see what I can do there. BTW, you can also use "L & D" or "L&D" for shorthand. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:22, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Here's my review. Good luck L&D :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Figure out what was copied and pasted, and rewrite that in your own words.
  • First sentence - Most intense cyclone in two years isn't interesting. Be broad but specific to this storm
  • Watch out for comma run-ons. If you have more than one comma in a sentence, then it should be in part of a list. Otherwise, the sentence structure gets too confusing for the average reader. Write simpler, but use linkable terms when they are appropriate. Also, in general, the sentences all probably have a good 3-5 too many words. Many should be re-written to be simpler/shorter.
  • What is "a tidal wave attack"?
  • Don't have rain warning stuff in the impact section.
  • India's section is too long.
  • Don't have bullet point lists in an article if you can help it (and you can for Maldives)
Thank you. One question though: Is there some way for me to figure out what has been copied and pasted (aside from using Plagarism Checking sites)? The only method I currently have for mass-evaluating the article right now is using an online Plagarism Checking, and the ones that I have used so far are far from perfect. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:33, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Yea, read through the article and see what stands out. Usually, stuff that is copied and pasted just looks out of place, compared to other cyclone articles. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Face-smile.svg LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
With Ockhi Make sure you follow the IMD/JTWC's lead and say that the system formed near India and not Thailand.Jason Rees (talk) 03:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I did this a month ago. If this isn't currently the case, then someone must have changed it back. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Looking at the article i can still see it in the lead but anyway the MH needs more IMD anaylsis. There is an 11 page report on Ockhi which you can use to further enhance the MH or most of the warnings are archived in the November talk page archive...Jason Rees (talk) 03:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For reverting 3 VANDALIZED REVISIONS made by ONE PERSON Thewinrat (talk) 02:07, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:16, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

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Tropical cyclones in 2010[edit]

I would appreciate some feedback on the work I have done at Tropical cyclones in 2010 so far. If you have any ideas on content that can be added, feel free to let me know. Thanks, FigfiresSend me a message! 22:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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Keep it. Thanks a lot for your contributions. I've left you one more barnstar. Source Content Self-Maker (talk) 18:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Discord Chat for WP Tropical Cyclones[edit]

Are you in the discord chat for the Tropical Cyclones project? FigfiresSend me a message! 03:54, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Uh... I don't think I am. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I didn't know there was a WPTC Discord until now (the people in the IRC channel apparently don't talk about it much), but you'd know if you were in it. Master of Time (talk) 04:25, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Go here to join it if you would like. FigfiresSend me a message! 04:39, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open[edit]

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced[edit]

G'day everyone, voting for the 2018 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:35, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Tripoli[edit]

Hi Should we create an article for the 2018 battle of Tripoli? --Panam2014 (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

That would be a great idea. However, if this is a part of the 2016–18 West Libya clashes, then that article should be expanded instead, unless this clash escalates into a full-blown urban battle. 🌀 LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:41, 18 September 2018 (UTC)