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Golden Hollywood[edit]

Hey Loeba and True Heart Susie check out this. Either of you can potentially be a part of it with me. I'm guessing Susie wants a big break after Monroe though and you're busy in RL Loeba but it's a long term thing, so if either of you want to pick a bio or film and order books whenvever without paying it's possible. The WMUK have been so supportive.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Cool idea Face-smile.svg That's great that the foundation does that. I actually haven't minded buying books for articles in the past, as you get them so cheap on amazon and they've always been subjects I'm passionate about. I have about 10 books each on Hepburn and Chaplin haha but quite like owning them. Good to know this is a possibility though. By the way, 1,681 views! Not too shabby! --Loeba (talk) 19:55, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: By the way, you like hotel articles right? Any interest in creating Waldhaus Flims? It gets 250,000 google hits [1] Don't mind if you're not up for it, of course, I just thought it may interest you. --Loeba (talk) 20:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Cheers for the barnstar Loeba!! Yes Sinatra and Monroe at GA within a few days, we're finally making some progress! Will try to start the hotel later in the week!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:49, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Chungking Express was great but Ashes of Time blew my mind, an all-time masterpiece, the spiritual elements and feel of that film are very special indeed. Reminded me of Bergman, Tarkovsky and Kurosawa at times, but very much the director's own stamp. I've rated it Top 20 greatest material.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:56, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Cool! It's certainly a great film, although it actually doesn't make my own top 5 Wongs because, well, they're all great to me (apart from the most recent two, which are only good). I'm glad you found one that you love anyway. Loeba (talk) 22:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Not even top 5? Wow there's some good ones to come then! Beautiful film! The first one of his I've seen which I thought was a masterpiece. Four down. Six to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

@Dr Blofeld: Only noticed this now, the fund looks interesting! I've decided to give Liz Taylor a mini-overhaul next month; I'm not intending to take it to GA/FA level, though. If either of you are interested in helping or know someone who'd be interested, please let me know! TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3
Great idea, although you should probably know - I'm pretty sure an old friend of ours has worked a lot on that article in the past! Hopefully it won't be too rocky sailing... --Loeba (talk) 18:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Yep, whenever there's quotefarm on a film article, you know who has been there... luckily he doesn't seem to be actively editing it at the moment, and most editors are able to see that he doesn't have a clue about how to write a good article. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 18:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3
LOL! I was going to work on Liz Taylor sometime in the future. If you get it up to Monroe level then Sven and I can do Cary Grant next month! I'm going to be spending less time on lots of different articles now and focusing more on the ones which really matter. All of the ones in the AFI 25 actors should be minimum GA by now. Those are the ones we should really be concentrating on I think. The two books which exist for Maureen are on their way through the post. BTW Loeba have you seen Claire's Knee? When I watched it I thought it would be your sort of film. It was in Ebert's top ten list for 1971 I think. Always one idiot who has to spoil the perfect 100% ratingDr. Blofeld 19:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah I've seen Claire's Knee, I liked it but didn't love it. --Loeba (talk) 14:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: I don't see The Babadook on your list? I just watched it last night, highly recommended. Purely as a horror film it is super creepy and effective, but it also has deeper meaner and is very powerful and intelligent (don't read the wiki page beforehand, it gives it away). Perfect for Halloween! The best horror film in years, even though It Follows was great. --Loeba (talk) 13:04, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Will try to watch it this evening, "super creepy" sounds good, having an Ealing comedy run at the moment, Hue and Cry and Another Shore so far. I should probably watch some horror films like that later on to get in the spirit of things though haha! Have you got any other horror films you highly recommend which I've not seen? I'm thinking of watching The Innocents (1961 film).♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:15, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah The Innocents is very good. Without checking your list (as I need to get offline!): Eyes Without a Face is one of my favourites (although it's more disturbing than scary, and is also very beautiful)...The Skin I Live In could be described as horror and I think that one's incredible...It Follows, as I said...Suspiria...umm, I'm not one of those horror nuts but I've heard all of these are really scary: Audition, The Descent, The Curse, Pulse. --Loeba (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Seen Eyes Without a Face and Suspiria, Audition was one I was thinking of anyway so I'll see that too if I can. Have a good day!♦ Dr. Blofeld
@Dr Blofeld: & Loeba : Oh wow, have you seen what's happening with the Taylor article? I started improving it (got as far as one section), and Light show appears making his bogus claims again... and has now nominated the article for GA!!!! If this isn't WP:OWN then I don't know what is. Makes me so angry; someone would actually be ready to spend the time in improving the article, and he absolutely cannot take it because in his view WP = a collection of Light show's opinions and ideas. Do you know if I can take this to an admin (Light show has a lot of admins already against him – he recently got into trouble for defying his image loading ban again), or should I just wait for his GA nom to crash and burn? Surely it should be quite obvious that since no one has made major changes to the article in ages, and his nom follows a new editor arriving to the article and a dispute erupting (for the most ridiculous reasons, btw – it was again clear he wasn't there to discuss, but to argue), he isn't actually taking it to GA for the right reasons. Although maybe, maybe already the fact that this article is not ready to pass GA in a million years will make him think – more likely he'll just claim everyone else is biased though... I just don't understand this person. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 10:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie

@TrueHeartSusie3: Sorry I didn't see this yesterday. Eek, tricky situation. I did suspect that he might get particularly resistant/disruptive over Taylor since he's the top contributor for the article. Umm, you could go to WP:ANI and explain everything...I'm sure they'd agree (especially considering the history) that he is nominating for GA for the wrong reasons and as a way to keep you off the article...whether or not they can actually intervene, since he does technically have the right to nominate it, I don't know. I've never gotten involved there either. But he does have a history of being banned from film articles, which would work in your favour. The other option would be to let the GA review pan out, then hope that he'll "back down" or at least cooperate and try and produce the article together...But it's hard to imagine that - he'll probably continue to complain about the changes - in which case you'll most likely end up going to ANI at that point. I kind of think it's worth mentioning it to the admins now, at least to see what they think and so the situation can be monitored. I know that's annoying drama to enter into though! --Loeba (talk) 11:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

No worries! I just got so irritated and hadn't had my morning coffee yet so had to vent somewhere ;) I've decided to wait for LS to go through with his GA nom before resuming with the article; it will hopefully make him look at his actions in a different light (yes, I'm an eternal optimist). If he then still continues claiming that I'm ruining the article and adding trivia, I'll probably have to go the ANI route, although I really dislike the idea. ANI seems so dramatic, and internet drama is so unnecessary and exhausting! We'll see, hopefully it won't be necessary. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 13:52, 5 November 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3
Oh I'd be really frustrated in your position as well. At least the GAN has been picked up quickly, it normally takes ages. I completely agree about internet drama so hopefully it can be avoided...surely LS won't want to end up back at ANI either, so with a warning he might be more cooperative. Btw, I remembered the other day that I never uploaded that Clash by Night image, sorry! I can still do it if you want? If so then I think it should be cropped - any preferences? --Loeba (talk) 17:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I kind of envy Snuggums for being able to review it :D That image would be a wonderful addition! But yeah, it probably needs to be cropped, as I think it's also nice to have the Monkey Business still there. TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 17:11, 5 November 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

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I've nominated this article for FAC which also happens to be my first attempt. It is also the first Indian Telugu film article to be nominated for such status. If interested, please leave your comments here. All constructive comments are welcomed. Yours sincerely, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:10, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

A gentle reminder! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:17, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
@Pavanjandhyala: Sorry I forgot to respond to but don't want to ignore you. I'm afraid I have to decline this, I'm quite selective about what I do on WP these days and stick to personal interests. But I sincerely wish you the best with the nomination, I remember what a big deal my first FAC was! Good luck, it looks likely that it will pass. Face-smile.svg --Loeba (talk) 18:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the response Loeba. At least you did that, most of the remaining didn't respond. Out of three reviews, one began very much after my request and the other two (Jaguar and Dr. Blofeld) are kind enough to review it. I think their love for this film was also one of the reasons. If interested, please try to watch it. It will not disappoint you surely. Happy editing! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 01:49, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Mullum Malarum FAC[edit]

Kailash29792 has nominated the article for FAC. Feel free to leave comments at its FAC page. Face-smile.svg  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:24, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


LOL Loeba, Ssven2 and anybody else, check out this. Hehe, that's a good one. Could not look more different to her mother!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

That's a nice tribute, I'm sure she loved doing that. "When Alfred Hitchcock Janet's shower scene he shocked audiences by killing off the world's biggest female star early in the movie" - Uhh, slight exaggeration there, Daily Mail (and clearly missing a word, god they suck!) --Loeba (talk) 12:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
The shoddiest quality journalism yeah, but in fairness often have some interesting articles. "Early on" is a bit of an exaggeration, Janet was the film for at least a third of it and Janet Leigh was never close to being the world's biggest female star LOL!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Making good progress with the Maureen O'Hara biography. It's an excellent book, so much useful info on every page haha! Added some recent interesting stuff about John Farrow making a pass at her and bullying her once she rejected him and her punching him and putting an end to it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:35, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

You and User:TrueHeartSusie3 have both got those articles done so quickly, I don't know how you do it! Great work both. --Loeba (talk) 12:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Not even close to being done yet! A decent expansion since the original though!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Liz Taylor's nowhere near finished though! :) Don't worry – whenever I'm most active here means I'm going through a boring, slow period in my real life... continued unemployment and horrible November weather equal productivity on Wikipedia ;) TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 11:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3
Question: before nominating Monroe for FA, should I ask the people who peer reviewed whether they are happy with the changes I've made, or can I just assume that they're fine with it being nominated if it's been a couple of weeks since their review and my replies? TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 12:20, 19 November 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3
Well even if they do want to raise a couple more points during the FAC that's absolutely fine and you may as well allow them to happen there (odds are a new reviewer or two will turn up there anyway). That's my view anyway! Go for it! Face-smile.svg --Loeba (talk) 12:46, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Karwai Wong[edit]

Curious, what are your top five films of his? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:09, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I'd say: 1. 2046, 2. Fallen Angels, 3. Chungking Express, 4. Days of Being Wild, 5. In the Mood For Love (been meaning to rewatch that one though, and Happy Together). Awards season is starting up this week! I can't help getting caught up in it haha. Looks pretty certain that Leo will finally be winning an Oscar in February. --Loeba (talk) 13:58, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Fallen Angels "I'm going blonde" ;-) was excellent. I didn't think it was as good as Ashes of Time though. There's definitely something special about his films and their conception.I'll watch Happy Together later, I'm watching in order! Currently seeing Cary Grant's early 30s films to complete the lot. I'd forgotten how filthy Mae West was LOL, that voice too, sounds like she's got something stuck up her arse. She's the female voice equivalent of Brando ;-) ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Yo Ho Ho[edit]

Make sure to click on both pictures to see them full size Loeba as they will give you a chuckle. May your 2016 be full of joy and special times and many wonderful films. MarnetteD|Talk 04:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
@MarnetteD: Thanks, happy Christmas and new year to you too :) --Loeba (talk) 10:31, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

A New Year to You[edit]

Hope you're well Loeba. Any idea what films would make your top 10 worst films list? Zardoz just about makes mine!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Hey dude, happy new year... or just "a new year", sure, that works as well. Face-grin.svg Funny you mention Zardoz - if you'd said this a few days ago I wouldn't have heard of it, but just yesterday someone on imdb (a big film buff) was raving about it, saying it was one of the best films he saw last year! Hey, different tastes are the spice of life right, haha. Got any favourites of 2015? My top two are Youth and Amy, seen lots of other fab ones as well though. Seeing The Hateful Eight in 70mm next weekend, it cost a bomb so it better be good! --Loeba (talk) 15:36, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

LOL, it must surely have been tough in cheek, it's embarrassing, Sean Connery in a giant red nappy and ponytail LOL. That should give you an idea. Considering it is from the same director as Deliverance!! I've been meaning to see Carol and Youth in particular. Ex Machina by far is the best film of 2015 I've seen.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:03, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

No he definitely wasn't being ironic! Here's the post: [2] Another big film buff right above says he loved it as well. It looks very trashy to me though, I think I'd be on your side haha. I loved Carol, gorgeous film. And yep Ex-Machina was great. Alicia Vikander is becoming one of my favourite actresses. --Loeba (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I like Gleeson too, there's something very warming about him, he has tremendous potential as an actor I think. I think Kubrick would have approved of Ex-Machina. Zardoz is utter trash, I'm shocked that they liked it, but I'd guess if they were the more nerdy types then its quirkiness might appeal to that element of them. The same film buff I notice rated Toy Story (one of the greatest films ever made) just 3 out 10 and Zardoz 10 out of 10 LMAO!! Watch the trailer, the trailer actually makes it seem quite interesting, but it's a pile of poo LOL. One of those rare films which are shockingly bad/laughable. The cinematography and location though granted are good.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
He has very idiosyncratic tastes, look at his favourites list [3]. Quite refreshing though, I think. And I reckon every film buff has a few "acclaimed masterpieces" that they see as crap - some people might scoff at my 3/10 rating for L'Eclisse, but hey I'd rather be honest that I find it painfully dull and empty =D Trumbo is quite fun to watch btw, lots of portrayals/clips/references to classic stars and films. Michael Stuhlbarg (usually great) is terrible as Edward G Robinson, though, no effort to capture his distinctive voice or mannerisms at all. --Loeba (talk) 11:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, he seems to have very idiosyncratic tastes. Yeah there's always a few people will disagree with. Some people would hate Mondo Cane for instance, but I thought it was one of the best made films ever! Personally I think 8 1/2 is really quite overrated but there you go. It's a great film but I would never consider it top 10 greatest film ever material. There were other Fellini ones I enjoyed more. Have you seen Celine and Julie Go Boating, I think you'd really enjoy that one!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:21, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I've seen it, mixed feelings on that one. Moments of brilliance but ultimately felt a bit long and repetitive to me. I want to see more Rivette though, he's one of the new wave directors I've seen the least from. --Loeba (talk) 21:05, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah it was a bit long. I've seen Rivette's first film, a short from 1956, that's excellent to look at. I've seen Cría Cuervos BTW, marvelous, one of the best films ever!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Indeed! How amazing is little Ana Torrent? --Loeba (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Great. Also very impressed with Geraldine! Another sterling film from that period is The Travelling Players, but probably not really your cup of tea and slow. Again one could complain about the length and pace but overall I think it's a terrific film. I've been trying to muster up the energy to watch the 1967 Russian film series of War and Peace BTW, but haven't got around to it because it's so bloody long LOL. Perhaps I should watch the first half and then the other half on another day.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: You seem quite up on Greek cinema, you like The Travelling Players? I'll try to see Dogtooth soon. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:41, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I've seen The Travelling Players. I loved the direction/visual style, but you're right that the length bothered me. Length doesn't have to be a problem at all - four of my favourite films are four hours long - but I do like to feel progression. That was my issue with this and Celine & Julie: lots of very abstract and similar scenes for hours and my interest starts to wane. I would have liked both much more at half the length (that's not to say I disliked them, but I have reservations as well). Also felt like Travelling Players could have had a lot to say - I was really intrigued by the premise (spanning contemporary Greek history), but it barely delivers on this. My favourite scenes were when the characters look into the camera and give a monologue, those were brilliant, but they were extremely rare and ultimately there ends up being very little social/political insight. So I think that's also why I was disappointed. If I watch it again prepared for what I'm in for (and I should probably read something about the symbolism etc, since there's probably a lot I missed) maybe I'll appreciate it more. Dogtooth is very good - about as dark and fucked up as film gets, ha. I like it a lot more than The Lobster. --Loeba (talk) 20:28, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah it's a flawed "masterpiece". My main concern was the long takes throughout, like you don't really need to hold a camera in one position for 5 minutes watching groups walking and chanting. You do get used to the director's style in watching it though. I thought overall it was a great film, largely the feel and look of it I think. That's why so many of the Balkan area films appeal to me, the feel and look of them that you just don't get from other parts of the world. A more edgy feel, especially from the old Soviet block countries.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:15, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Not seen The Travelling Players, Dr B. On a long list of films to see! Can't go wrong with Dogtooth. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love it. Liked Alps too. And thanks Loeba for reminding me of Celine & Julie. I'm a big fan of that one. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 20:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

One I highly recommend to both of you is Marketa Lazarova, it's in my top 10 greatest films. I literally felt like I was in the 13th century watching it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:20, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Dogtooth was weird LOL. And that poor cat, Mr Bigglesworth ran under the table in fright when he saw it! ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:07, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

The Hateful Eight[edit]

Did you see it afterwards? Thoughts? What would your top ten for 2015 be then? Surprised to not see Youth among the noms?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:59, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

TH8 was pretty good. Definitely a lesser QT in my opinion but he always provides entertainment (save from Death Proof, fck that film). Just wish he wouldn't always descend into slapstick violence these days...The roadshow presentation was worth going to though, it definitely felt like an "event" which is rare with films. No I didn't expect to see Youth among the nominees, it's not an Oscar type film. And it hasn't really had the most enthusiastic reception but who cares, I love it! My favourite of the nominees is definitely Room; still need to see The Revenant though (was waiting for it to be out in cinemas, which it finally is). My top 10 has quite a few that I saw at the festival so aren't well known (yet, hopefully they get their due): Youth, Amy, Gold Coast, Evolution, The Forbidden Room, Ixcanul, Carol, Embrace of the Serpent, James White, The Fear of 13. All highly recommended. Also great if you're looking for recs: Son of Saul (I think you'd love this), Slow West, 45 Years, Room, Aferim, Mountains May Depart, The End of the Tour, Inside Out... --Loeba (talk) 13:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Wow you've seen loads, ones even like that Guatemalan one! What festival did you watch them at? Funnily enough I'd thought the same thing on Son of Saul , I thought it looked a great film, but then I have a special affinity for films from that neck of the woods.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:51, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Remember I worked at the London Film Festival in October? I remember you asking me how I got the work. I saw like 22 films, heh. Total for 2015 is currently 49...yep, already pretty high! Ixcanul is fantastic, and fascinating to see into that culture. Son of Saul is going to win the Foreign Language Oscar, 100%. I feel like I need to see it again, I was very impressed but also a bit overwhelmed by the claustrophobic filming style (you'll see what I mean) so I think a second viewing would be beneficial. I'm delighted that Theeb got a nomination - that was one of my festival finds from 2014, and it barely got any attention but now - over a year later - it's an Oscar nominee. Face-grin.svg Definitely watch it (it's already online), it's like Lawrence of Arabia meets...uhh, a slow-burning thriller, take your pick! I'll definitely watch Marketa Lazrova at some point btw, I'll let you know when I do. --Loeba (talk) 18:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I noticed Theeb is popular with a lot of the people on imdb a few weeks back. Films like that and Ixcanul are why I try to see a lot of world films too as it can provide a fascinating insight into different cultures. Tarantino has been particularly frustrating of late, it does sort of annoy me that he has the potential to make an all-time classic western, a real masterpiece of a film but chooses to engage in too much silliness for a good portion of his films with the slapstick violence and in his previous one, 113 uses of the "n" word. If Django Unchained had gone along the route of focusing mainly on Waltz and his encounters throughout the West, a comic western in the vein of Ballad of Cable Hogue, or something more serious like Once Upon a Time in the West it could have been an absolute delight. I know Tarrantino and violence go hand in hand., but it does say a lot about his mentality, when he has the ability to make the sort of amazing classic western we rarely get anymore. With Morricone scoring, I wish he'd have set his heart on making a western that Sergio Leone would have been proud of. I guess I should see it before commenting, but if he goes down the Django route again I'll be pretty miffed haha!

Don't lknow if you saw this about M. Lazarova, but he pretty much says what I thought of it, it's like going back in a time machine to the 13th century! If you've seen Andrei Rublev it's probably closest to that. Somebody even comments that Kubrick would have loved it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

The first 2/3s of TH8 are fairly restrained, but then the OTT violence comes on full-throttle (and the "n word" is back in extensive use throughout). It's also a bit of a shame that 70% of the film takes place indoors. Don't watch it expecting it to feel anything like a Leone western, it's talky and house-bound. It is gripping though, good characters, lots of funny bits, and there's a mystery to it (although the plotting isn't quite as clever as I wanted it to be). Definitely worth watching, just not amazing or anything. Sounds like we had a similar opinion of Django so I think you'll agree. --Loeba (talk) 21:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Seen that and The Revenant now. TH8 a bit lethargic to watch with a heck of a lot of dialogue, over done IMO, overall as you say though good character development and some amusing parts. Kurt Russell was superb I thought. Still disappointing for a western scored by Morricone though. If only he had spread out the long interior scenes more and interpersed them with "classic" western scenery, giving the film more momuentum, it could have been great. It's a bit pointless IMO making a western if you're going to largely confine the characters to rooms. The whole idea is the primitive outdoors! The fellatio taunting and coffee poisoning twist was quite brilliant though. The Revenant was excellent! Quite the opposite from the other being very outdoorsee haha. Perhaps they should have shared some footage to balance them both out ;-) ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I can see why you loved Youth so much and why it's not Oscar material, tremendously well-acted and quirky. Jane Fonda especially I enjoyed in it. I loved the look on Keitel and Caine's faces when that Miss Universe goddess walked naked into the pool. Classic dirty old men haha!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Cool glad you liked it. Sorrentino is one of the best people working right now IMO, a real visionary. I'm going to love following his career. I should be seeing The Revenant this week. What do you think is better, that or Birdman? --Loeba (talk) 17:21, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Birdman is better overall I think. But in terms of cinematography and the "raw" coverage of nature The Revenant is really a beautiful film to watch. It's far better than The Hateful 8 anyway! I know an (older) couple who walked out of the cinema when it got to the "my black Johnson" bit. They were disgusted with it and thought the film appalling haha!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Ridiculous isn't it? I agree with Rampling, it is anti-White racism. Caine and Danny Boyle are spot on too, there is only one race, and you can't nominate an actor purely for the fact that he's black. I really don't want it to reach a stage that there has to be black, Chinese, Hispanic nominated actors just to be politically correct. It should be based entirely on talent. The problem IMO lies more with the proportion of black actors who are cast in major roles in major Hollywood films. Especially women, that is genuinely pathetic. How many top black film actresses are there exactly? If there were more black actors being given the leading parts then there'd be more likely to be nominated. The problem really lies with the tendency to give black actors "black parts" rather than freely casting a black actor in any sort of role I think. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Well it's annoying because it's completely dominated awards season, and it seems every celebrity on the planet is being asked their opinion. I don't think anyone can seriously think the Academy is racist when there have been numerous black nominees and several winners since 2000, so it's definitely being blown out of proportion. But I understand why they look bad as well, and I do think Rampling (as much as I'm rooting for her) was a bit wrong-headed in some of her remarks. The suggestion that "the performances from black actors weren't good enough" doesn't hold much weight when BAFTA, SAG and Golden Globe all had at least one black nominee. From my perspective, Michael B Jordan would have been way more deserving than Matt Damon or Bryan Cranston; Idris Elba, Jason Mitchell and O'Shea Jackson* would have been more deserving than most of the Supporting Actor nominees. I haven't seen Will Smith's film, but he looks impressive from the trailer. I agree that there shouldn't be "quotas" or anything, I don't think anyone wants that, but people shouldn't suggest that no-one black was deserving. Overall yes, I think the main issue is with racism in Hollywood as you say. *And talking of O'Shea Jackson, his dad has given the best response to the whole controversy so far: [4]
I absolutely loved The Revenant by the way! Inarritu is just on fire at the moment, he's seriously becoming one of my favourites. I realised I've seen 5/6 of his films and never given him less than 8/10. Beasts of No Nation is excellent as well, both of those have gone into my top 10 of the year. --Loeba (talk) 18:23, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah and let's not forget that 12 Years a Slave and the actress won not long ago... Don't know if you've seen Pinkett's video but it's embarrassing. Still a good looking woman but she speaks like a hip hop artist and looks a bit of an idiot saying what she said and even acknowledging that the presenter will be black! Same with me, seen 5/6 of Inarritu's but not seen Biutiful yet. Yes, I think The Revenant will go down as one of those outdoor classics like Dances with Wolves/Last of the Mohicans etc, the cinematography is awesome. I've seen Theeb BTW, a bit overrated I thought, it's not consistently great throughout, but has some amazing moments in it, particularly at the end.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh dear, it gets worse!Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Do you think The Revenant is a dead cert for best picture? Admittedly I was very impressed with Spotlight too. Ruffalo and McAdams I think put in sterling Oscar-worthy performances. Sort of the All the President's Men of the 2010s.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:51, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

No, The Big Short is the front runner because it just won PGA, which has a track record of matching up with the Oscars. Spotlight does feel a lot like All the Presidents Men, but that was always a film I found a bit dry and I had the same response with Spotlight, heh. Both are good, don't get me wrong, I just don't think just don't think "journalism films" are for me. Either that or Revenant is next in line, but it would be bold of them to award to same filmmaker two years running. So Revenant would surprise me...but make me happy as I think it's easily the best of the nominees! --Loeba (talk) 16:41, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I didn't think The Big Short was the best at all. I'm surprised it's the front runner as it's a comparable sort of film to American Hustle and Wolf of Wall Street in recent years. Perhaps they like some variation in the type of film which wins though. Who do you reckon will get Best Director and actors/actresses?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I know what you mean about "a bit dry" but I think it's the type of film which isn't your cup of tea. You probably just don't find a film largely centred on journalist's investigating something appealing and that such a film has that much depth and enjoyment. It's a valid criticism, but both that and President's are definitely very well made films, even if it's not your thing. Ruffalo's performance in particular I think is Oscar worthy. I don't mind "journalist" films but there's certain other films which often get rave reviews which don't appeal that much to me either.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:35, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah that's exactly what I said, lol, good films but the subject matter isn't my favourite. I give both 7/10 though which is definitely positive - I'm just not full of enthusiasm. As for the other awards: Best Actor is 100% in the bag for Leo, Best Actress seems to be going to Brie Larson but Ronan could spoil, Director is very difficult to predict - it's wide open. A lot of people think it could go to George Miller, which would be an unusual pick for them. I like that a major category is so unpredictable, for once! I'm predicting and hoping Alicia Vikander gets Supporting Actress (even though it's ridiculous she's in that category) - she became an instant favourite of mine when I saw A Royal Affair and I'm so pleased she's taken off this year. Supporting Actor I see maybe going To Sly Stallone, which I'd actually support - he was surprisingly good in Creed. --Loeba (talk) 18:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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