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Immediate Attention[edit]

Hi Admin,

I would like you to have your immediate attention on this page. Thank you.

Venomous Sniper (talk) 08:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@Venomous Sniper: Thanks. Can you please warn vandals with more than one warning before reporting, unless they're on a rampage at high speed. It makes it easier to issue a block once they've been sufficiently warned. Aside from that, thanks, you had a few waiting and most were easily taken care of. -- Longhair\talk 09:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for blocking the above user. The user has also uploaded the file Identity appropriation.gif to Wikimedia Commons which I have nominated for deletion. Regards, JACKINTHEBOXTALK 08:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@JackintheBox: Thanks. I'm not an admin over there but somebody will complete that eventually. Quite a backlog at the moment. I'll knock out what I can here. -- Longhair\talk 08:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


Please hide the revisions made by the compromised account of user:Divinity76 today. CLCStudent (talk) 19:36, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@CLCStudent: Another administrator already has. -- Longhair\talk 19:38, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

source looting[edit]

i'm unsure what you mean, the source is the NY Times article itself that was already there. I'll re-edit it. TerminatorXtotheEdgeofPanic (talk) 20:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@TerminatorXtotheEdgeofPanic: And this edit? [1] -- Longhair\talk 20:15, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
the LA 1992 looting weren't predominately in black areas of south central LA? also why remove both of my edits, dont understandTerminatorXtotheEdgeofPanic (talk) 20:20, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
@TerminatorXtotheEdgeofPanic: You explained your first edit which you've since re-added. If you can find a reliable source for the second then you're welcome to reinstate that also. -- Longhair\talk 20:39, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Yannick Mireur[edit]

Hi Longhair, thank you for your welcome message. Will read the references and revert.

AndreAdrian says thanks[edit]

Hello Longhair. I am an old contributer to the german Wikipedia. I will read the links. Thanks for your welcome! AndreAdrian (talk) 22:04, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


Hello Longhair and thanks for welcoming me, and thanks for your interest. In real fact i have browsed a lot of pages in Wikipedia guidelines sure it's a place that i decide to stay and edit. Thanks again for welcoming me. (talk) 23:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)–Kollam_Express[edit]


Thanks for the information, I've shared an external link of government website. It was the information verified by Indian government. Don't know if that's considered as low quality link then what should be the quality link?

I am new here, trying to learn as much as I can.

Regards, --Paradiseholidays (talk) 18:04, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Paradiseholidays: I would have thought a government would use a .gov-like domain, but I've since visited the website and I won't revert should you add that link again. -- Longhair\talk 22:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Shakira111 IP[edit]

Hi Longhair, my hunch is certainly true that Shakira111 is still evading the block by using IPs for the following reasons. The IP user (talk · contribs · WHOIS) used the Twitter links from fans and record labels to add certifications like 1, 2, 3. The same urls were added to some of the same articles by Shakira111 like for instance here, see using the same Twitter fan account. It seems beyond coincidence and the IP came and reverted my exact removal on the article "Chantaje", the exact reversions which Shakira111 was also doing while returning from his/her block. —IB [ Poke ] 22:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I see what you're saying. I didn't follow the Twitter link but if it's a fan site and they're using the same reference, they pass the duck test here. If they're evading blocks again, they'll just continue to do so. Topic bans and similar won't stop them either. What was the outcome of the post to AIV? I see nothing this end that came of that, or did admins refer you to me, having dealt with this editor several times previously? -- Longhair\talk 22:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
The AIV resulted in the IP being blocked for two weeks. As for the main user, Shakira111, I had pinged you myself since you were the one who had originally blocked him/her, and would know better what to do in this situation. I'm just surprised that someone would pay absolutely no attention to blocks unless, as you say, this will continue alas. —IB [ Poke ] 22:27, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: OK I see that now. They've only been blocked in the past 10 minutes or so... their edits came at 3am in the morning here. I'd just logged off for the evening so wasn't around. Their account block expires in a day or so. I'm going to sit idle and do nothing with the main account for now, and if they evade their block again before their block expires, ping me again please. It's part vandalism and part personal I'm assuming. Disruptive along with a tad of aiming for your edits from what I can tell. -- Longhair\talk 22:38, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. A bit of digging in resulted in a lot of these fan Twitter links being added (presumably by the same user) across all the singer Shakira related articles. I will keep you posted regarding what happens and how the main account behaves. —IB [ Poke ] 22:45, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Can I have the exact Twitter account URL please? Not the tweet URL, but the account. -- Longhair\talk 22:47, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Sure. One of them is PakyShak and the other is Shakira_Brasil. —IB [ Poke ] 22:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: I just did an external links search... only got 1 hit at Deja Vu (Prince Royce and Shakira song) aside from the Twitter account mention being at my talk page here. I'm not doubting what you're saying, but if you can isolate the exact Twitter accounts they're referencing then perhaps technical means can be employed to stop them adding them to begin with, which will pretty much stop their disruption because the wiki software will step in before anyone else can and block them from being added altogether. -- Longhair\talk 22:59, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Oh I just went around deleting most of the links from the Shakira articles. Just the one you linked above was left. That's why you didn't find them much. Check my most recent contributions :) —IB [ Poke ] 23:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: You missed one. Thanks. I'll be around for a few hours, if not online, then nearby. -- Longhair\talk 23:06, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Upsilon Sigma Phi leaks scandal[edit]

I removed a considerable amount of content which I think is a clear overemphasis according to BLP policy from this article. I subsequently noticed from the history that you had previously blocked an other editor for deleting potions of this material. I did not intend this as a revert of your block, and i apologize if it looks that way. If you disagree with me, I suggest a discussion on either the article talk page or the BLP noticeboard. If you do, let me know where; I shall then state my position, and if I think necessary ask for an RfC for broader input, but I do not intend to get extensively involved should the consensus be opposed to my deletion. DGG ( talk ) 00:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

@DGG: Your edits are fine. I did intend to revisit this article, lest that incident occurred late-ish at night here and upon waking one becomes distracted by other issues here that get in the way. That blocked editor was not engaging in discussion other than brief edit summaries and I saw their deletions as being cited by reliable sources. I blocked them for continual removal of information without discussing the exact nature of their problem. I also left information at their talk page on how to have the article deleted without the edit warring that took place. It's all good my end. Articles of those types always make me want to look away. I appreciate the work you've done to give it the cleanup it deserved. Thanks. -- Longhair\talk 01:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your help tonight! It's been the first time I've encountered anyone needing blocking and you were there! Philipnelson99 (talk) 04:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@Philipnelson99: It happens. Thanks for your help also. -- Longhair\talk 04:52, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@Philipnelson99: I see you've found another one already... :) I'll be logging off shortly. Be sure to take any active vandalism to the relevant noticeboard. -- Longhair\talk 05:16, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@Longhair: Ah, thank you for pointing me to the notice board! I'm just now really learning how to fight vandalism! Thanks! Philipnelson99 (talk) 05:20, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@Philipnelson99: I saw you mention earlier one had attacked you. That'll happen too when you catch the wrong one off-guard mid-vandalism spree. Just revert and brush it off. Wikipedia:Deny recognition is a good essay on that topic worth the glance. Good luck. -- Longhair\talk 05:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@Longhair: I'll be sure to read it!! Thanks! Philipnelson99 (talk) 05:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Always good to have you around - trust your week is going well JarrahTree 00:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Page protection[edit]

Hi Longhair, can you protect the Kate Siegel page? It's been the target of unsourced defamatory attacks from multiple IPs. -KH-1 (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

@KH-1: Done. Quite an active mess eh? -- Longhair\talk 05:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Yeah, but should be alright now. -KH-1 (talk) 05:25, 28 November 2018 (UTC)


Dear Mr. Longhair,

we created as a study with no commercial intend. Our focus is to show people who don't have the capability to travel much, how tall famous structures around the world are, and to inable them to compare them in size to other structures the might know or have heard of. We try to be as accurate as possible with the information we provide by scaling them into their right prorpotions. We believe this information could be a good learning tool.

Could you please let us know why you do not estimate this learning tool to be fit to be included into your encyclopedia. This might also help us to improve what we are doing. We don't wish to offend anybody and we are not involved with political or commercial content and therefore your input would be highly appreciated.

Thank you

your Size-explorer Team — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buildingsize (talkcontribs) 14:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Buildingsize - You absolutely cannot add links to references, sources, or websites that you own, author, or maintain. It's an absolute conflict of interest violation to do such a thing, and it degrades these articles from being worded and referenced in order to reflect a neutral point of view. It also violates Wikipedia's policy that disallows the inclusion of original research within articles. I mean, think about it for a moment... if I add content and information to an article and I reference my own stuff, that puts the article's neutrality into question and people would be correct in asking questions about that... It's like having a scientist hired by a tobacco company introducing a study stating that smoking doesn't cause cancer... would you accept such a study, or would you be crossing your arms and saying, "noooo... wait a second here...."? Of course you'd be crossing your arms and rejecting the study! :-) ...because the scientist's conflict of interest is clear and the study's neutrality is compromised because of this. This is why we cannot accept your links or URLs as sources and why you cannot add them to Wikipedia. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:52, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@Buildingsize: {editconflict, thanks Osh... I'll let you speak because you've said it far better than I...} But I will add, you (Buildingsize) have signed off using the word "team"... please note Wikipedia accounts are for the sole use of one person only. I'm going to ask you to change username as it must represent a single person rather than a team or organisation. You are not required to use your real name. You are currently in violation of the username policy. Your username can be changed at Wikipedia:Changing username. Again, all accounts must represent a single editor or person, not a "team". -- Longhair\talk 15:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Shakira111 returns[edit]

As expected and this happened. SMH. —IB [ Poke ] 15:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I was just about to ask...brb. -- Longhair\talk 15:07, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Handed a month off. They're not getting it. -- Longhair\talk 15:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
And don't think they will ever get it. We both know where this is heading sigh... Thanks Longhair. —IB [ Poke ] 15:11, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Keep me informed. I expect we'll revisit this topic again soon-ish. -- Longhair\talk 15:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit war[edit]

Hello, I do not know how to open a debate on Critical Reviews in Toxicology, Taylor & Francis, and Predatory publishing talk pages. Could you do it please ?


@Scientificrigor12:. No. It's not my debate to enter. But the talk page you require is at Talk:Critical Reviews in Toxicology. You're better off heading there rather than continue to edit war. -- Longhair\talk 18:16, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scientificrigor12 (talkcontribs) 18:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)


I think there was a mistake - via Avi edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alina c26 (talkcontribs) 00:36, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Ya I do agree with the fact that , the edit I made wasn't appropriate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nandini Devaskar (talkcontribs) 02:59, 29 November 2018 (UTC) 

Clarification on Word of Faith Edit[edit]

My apologies on the inappropriate edit. I'm new at this. Could you explain to me how Joe McIntyre and Justin Peters are considered experts but I'm not? I have published a book on this subject on Amazon and have had a blog dealing with these issues for years, as well as a YouTube channel addressing the misinformation in Justin Peters' commentary. How does one go from being a guy with an opinion to an expert who can be cited on Wikipedia? Because I can assure you Justin Peters is not an expert. He's a guy with an ax to grind against Benny Hinn and faith healers, and has spread a ton of misinformation on the subject. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodney saunders (talkcontribs) 12:50, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

@Rodney saunders: Your first edit was unsourced, and your second linked to a blog website. I made no comment on anyone else being an expert on this topic, but information added to articles must be by published by reliable third party sources. You appear to be adding primary sources related to your own work in this area. -- Longhair\talk 21:41, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
I was referring to the article calling Justin Peters an expert, not you. So I guess I need to establish myself as an expert and wait for somebody else to use me as a source. Does being a published author qualify? JP isn't a published author. He's just a guy who does seminars and videos. I at least have a self-published book. Confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodney saunders (talkcontribs) 04:38, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
@Rodney saunders: It sounds like the article has quite a few issues. If content in the article isn't sourced by reliable independent publications, you may remove such content. The link I've provided in my comment here will assist you to determine the reliability of sources. If another editor chooses to undo your edits, then article talk pages are where you can both reach a consensus on the article content. Self-published books aren't a reliable source... they're considered a primary source, and nor videos and seminars unless they've received significant coverage in secondary sources. I hope that helps. I realise it can be confusing, so if you have any further questions, feel free to ask. -- Longhair\talk 07:45, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

UAS Laboratories page[edit]

Hi there,

Thank you very much for your attentiveness to pages. However, I am a bit confused of why my content was rejected. Everything listed is public information and can be confirmed by a number of news sources. Do I need a greater variaton of sources? I just found it easy to use their website since all the information was in their news and announcements like a historical record. Every historical event, location, Recognition and Current Activity can be confirmed by a news source. I apologize that you found my content advertorial in nature. This is my first post I've edited and I suppose I write a bit too much like a story teller. Will I have another opportunity? If you notice, this page has not been updated in some time and the history, current activities, and locations all need to be updated. The proliferation of knowledge of probiotics and the probiotic industry is highly important to me.

Thanks, Kyle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle.b.obrien (talkcontribs) 19:40, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

@Kyle.b.obrien: See WP:COI. You appear to be employed by this company and your editing is a conflict of interest. Per the Wikipedia Terms of Use you will be required to declare any paid editing on your user page. You will not be permitted to edit the article directly, but rather request edits at the article talk page. -- Longhair\talk 21:36, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Issue with Content[edit]

"While most Welsh immigrants came to the US before the 20th century, "immigration has by no means stopped." Current expatriates (a recent notable example being Anthony Hopkins) have formed societies all across the country, including the Chicago Tafia (a play on "Mafia" and "Taffy"), AmeriCymru and New York Welsh/ Cymry Efrog Newydd."

Issue with the above entry. Published material should make it clear that Welsh Immigration from Wales to to USA is very low. The publisher above is referencing a few high profile individuals and a couple of social groups. Recommended corrections: Welsh immigration to the United States is low, but Welsh immigrants do still arrive (Or any other similar clarification). "Immigration has by no means stopped" is a poor representation of the facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:02, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@ Your edits were unsourced. Feel free to re-add them by citing reliable sources. -- Longhair\talk 01:12, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

If it can not allow me to create a bot user account,please delete my account![edit]

Last week,I had been created an account"Yesterdaybot",I'm a bot's host,if there was a rule,can't create any bot,just help me to delete my account,please.(I had contact to wikipedia community email,but nobody answer,I doubt you are a offical system admin)Haojie A liang 08:41, 1 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yesterday Once More (talkcontribs)

@Yesterday Once More: Bots must be approved by the Bot Approvals Group at WP:BAG. Accounts are not deleted at Wikipedia. If you wish to no longer edit just stop using your account. -- Longhair\talk 21:53, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for all the hard work, you truly deserve this @Boothsift 00:28, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Following up on last message[edit]

Hello, I didn't remove content, I moved it to another section. India had its own section separately from "Asia", so I decided to move the information under "Asia". Is it fine if it's moved back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newshesha23 (talkcontribs) 03:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)


re User talk: Can you explain why you're reverting the IP's removal of comments? Per WP:BLANKING, the IP is allowed to do it. It might not be wise, but reverting it certainly doesn't help anything and adds more heat than light. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:40, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

@L235: True. But when they're accusing another editor of good standing of wrongs, others are asking for evidence. Blanking just means they're likely accusing while also unwilling to backup their disruptive claims. More than one editor is requesting evidence. -- Longhair\talk 05:48, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I understand and am very sympathetic. I personally disagree that reverting three times and then revoking TPA was the best thing to do, but I respect that reasonable editors may disagree. Have a good night, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:57, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@L235: This editor has been ip hopping for some time and editing per WP:TE. When editors accuse others of good standing then withdraw requests or blank requests for further info, that's kinda disruptive imho. Perhaps I lost my cool. I appreciate your input here. All the best. -- Longhair\talk 06:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)


Hello, I am one of Chinese Wikipedia administrators. You may feel weird for edit of Poeplelikeyou.

He is one of User:Jessechi's Sock puppetries. He is a long-term Wikipedia vandal in Chinese Wikipedia[2].—Outlookxp (talk) 00:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Longhair. Since this user appears to understand and be willing to abide by the COI restrictions, I've unblocked them. AS ever, if you have any issues, feel free to drop by my talkpage; you're always welcome! Yunshui  09:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@Yunshui: All good. -- Longhair\talk 09:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Grand, thanks! Yunshui  09:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Alternate page title[edit]

Hey, I saw that you deleted my alternate user page title. Is having that against the rules? I was just following the instructions here – if this is an illegal practice, that page should probably be changed, I'd say.

Ker Blam, PaulodiCapistrano 23:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@PauloDiCapistrano: Your edits at your userpage made your userpage appear as if it was in the article namespace which may confuse some editors. Userpage guidelines state that userpages must not appear to look like articles. I'm not sure that your changes to userpage appearance would be visible to those using different skins to the default anyhow. I realise the link I've provided doesn't expressly mention the page title and refers more to the hosting of articles in userpage, but it's still likely to confuse some editors in my opinion. -- Longhair\talk 23:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
@Longhair: Got it. Makes sense. Thanks!
Ker Blam, PaulodiCapistrano 23:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

History Merge[edit]

Hi Longhair, User:Nizil Shah left a message on my talk page, asking for a history merge between Polo forest and Polo Forest. The latter was somehow created when I moved the page, but the former is the current page being edited. Also, I am credited as the creator, which I am not. I agree with Nizil that a merge should be performed, but I was not sure how to do it and I don't know a lot of admins(GAB was helpful, Swarm is currently too busy to reply and let's just say Beeblebrox was not a big fan of me asking him for help...but my wording was pretty awful). So, I have come to you for assistance, but I also understand that admins are normal people and they have other things to do. So, I wouldn't mind at all if you are too busy(not being sarcastic or harsh).

Thanks, --@Boothsift 06:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@Boothsift: Polo Forest is the preferred title? I've performed the merge... but just checking the intended article name. -- Longhair\talk 06:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
@Longhair: Hi, I believe that Nizil prefers Polo forest, however since it is a place, I think Polo Forest would be better. --@Boothsift 06:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
@Boothsift: Places are usually capitalised. I'll leave you two to sort that and if you need any further assistance I'll be around in between real life throughout the evening. I've deleted the duplicate. -- Longhair\talk 06:42, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for history merge. I have capitalised the title as per your advice. -Nizil (talk) 07:14, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Edit conflict on block[edit]

Hi Longhair! I think we edit conflicted here. I had revised the block to reflect the LTA socking. The username is irrelevant at this point.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ponyo: I suspected LTA. No probs, we both had the same intention. -- Longhair\talk 23:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

You just deleted this[edit]

Portal:Philately/Header. The portal page this was used on had been drastically edited without any notice to me, the maintainer, and they have now reverted it but you deleted this page. Please restore or userify, so I can see exactly how it constructed as I would like to recreate it for the portal revision. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 23:43, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ww2censor: Restored. -- Longhair\talk 23:45, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll look at this and see how its elements can be retained, even if it get deleted again. ww2censor (talk) 23:47, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
@Ww2censor: Grab what you need and if it requires deletion again just tag accordingly. Thanks. -- Longhair\talk 23:51, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

about the edit[edit]

I was about to ask you to reset it to before how this whole thing dispute started. I see that you have reverted it correctly, already Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirabarlen (talkcontribs)

@Pirabarlen: While there's always two sides to every story, I have communicated with another editor who you both chatted with at irc and looked into the mess of edits left behind. It's clearly an off-wiki dispute that became active here at Wikipedia. I think I have the correct version of said article in place and will add the article to my personal watchlist in case the dispute resumes in future. In short, something just didn't make sense when I took a closer look, and when things don't make sense, somebody isn't being honest. I think it'll all blow over now and everyone can move on peacefully, at least here anyway? -- Longhair\talk 13:48, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
@Pirabarlen: @Wedgeantilles0: This dispute is now taking place on 4 different pages here, as well as IRC. I suggest taking any wiki related issues to the talk page so the entire issue can be followed without anyone getting lost along the way. -- Longhair\talk 14:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I have added a text regarding departing members on the talk page. Wedgeantilles0 (talk) 15:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

New page deletion: Asia-Pacific Quiz Championships[edit]

G'day Longhair

Just wanted to discuss deletion of this new page. I would have thought an international event of seven years standing is wiki-worthy. I had a look at the various guidelines but they refer more to sporting events so were not much help. The page is still in development so I plan to re-submit it when it is more substantial. Happy to discuss further in the meantime if you wish.

cheers, Jockosaurus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jockosaurus (talkcontribs)

@Jockosaurus: The article was completely unsourced. I am happily to restore the article and move it into your draft workspace. -- Longhair\talk 22:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Re the deletion[edit]

Wasn't trying to step on feet there. From link watching, I had already blanked the page previously, and with the reanimation, I deleted, and went to be more specific to the user, and found you had already stood and tapped your foot. <shrug> Sometimes they don't want to listen, though just know better. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:20, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I don't mind. I'd already warned the editor. You just completed the job :) -- Longhair\talk 04:21, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: Back at it again via Vlkwatchman (talk · contribs) -- Longhair\talk 04:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Having COIBot monitor and there will be a matching set of reports locally — billinghurst sDrewth 04:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: "Chris" isn't enjoying this... I think they've copped an autoblock via the sock I blocked. I'll let them cool down and read up before I change anything. Sigh. -- Longhair\talk 05:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
What do you mean RTFM? What? It isn't WikiWriteWhatIWant? Damn you and all your rules. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:15, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: If I had $1 for every coi editor that shapeshifted into another identity... :p -- Longhair\talk 05:18, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Nice to know to where the CoIers move, which is why I find COIBot so valuable for monitoring. I'd prefer a $1 for every spam edit; hey just my xwiki deletions/reversions. Heck, sometimes just getting a dollar would be okay. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: I wasn't even aware of COIBot but I am now. I'll look into it... -- Longhair\talk 05:28, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Not aware? Oh no, and it is so best of mates with XLinkBot. Beetstra is the maestro, though I have good access. To drive it best, it is IRC controlled, though can do bits through webpages, at least to poke a page. Prod me if you want or need more access. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: Yeah, I'm interested. I do a lot of coi related work here sometimes and it'd come in handy. Any quick start tips you can give would be much appreciated also. Thanks. -- Longhair\talk 20:28, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

re: user page deletion and delete template[edit]

First off, thanks for the quick response to the delete request - however, the fact that the delete is using "speedy deletion" in the template's contents doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. In most cases that I've come across, a regular delete template doesn't necessarily have that sort of language on it that implies that immediate action is requested. DSquirrelGM (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@DSquirrelGM: Speedy deletion can be a complex topic with many criteria for deletion. I could tell what your intentions were so deleted the content you requested to be removed. This page describes all the criteria for content that is able to be speedy deleted along with the shorthand codes used to abbreviate the criteria. If in doubt just tag the article with {{csd}} and another more experienced editor or administrator will usually be able to tell what you're intending. -- Longhair\talk 02:52, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
@DSquirrelGM: The alternative is Articles for Deletion which is a discussion based deletion process and intended for content where speedy deletion criteria does not apply. -- Longhair\talk 02:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the user user:Cixqo[edit]

This user keeps recreating an autobiographical page, that keeps getting repeatedly deleted. also keeps creating pages about his songs. He doesnt seem to meet WP:MUSICBIO. What should the next step of action for this user be? Daiyusha (talk) 08:48, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@Daiyusha: I'll take a look, thanks. -- Longhair\talk 08:48, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
@Daiyusha: I've blocked them due to the bulk of their edits being self promotional content. That appears to be their primary purpose here at Wikipedia. Any other contributions were very few and far between. -- Longhair\talk 08:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Penn State School of Music[edit]

I got raked over the coals recently for placing such obvious username blocks. Don't run for ArbCom unless you want to be called to the dramah boards, haha. Drmies (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies: People will complain about anything... I wondered why the obvious tended to be left alone of late. I voted for you anyway :D -- Longhair\talk 22:43, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


My report of user:2600:100D:B004:3DEB:4CC1:B144:8F7E:55A6 has been sitting there for a little more than an hour. Could you please block them? Just look at the prior contributions today such as [[3]]. They are vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 00:48, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@CLCStudent: They appear to be fixing vandalism, at least on the Happy Pills article anyway. Their edits prior to that however... if I'm wrong feel free to clue me up a notch. -- Longhair\talk 00:57, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
look at [[4]] and the edits before. CLCStudent (talk) 00:59, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@CLCStudent: Yes, I saw that. They've stopped editing but I'll keep an eye on them in case they resurface. I don't know enough about the Candlebox topic without checking but they're also editing dates which may be a case of fixing one issue while breaking another... -- Longhair\talk 01:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@CLCStudent: Somebody else just blocked them. -- Longhair\talk 01:01, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Grissom High School[edit]

on the wikipedia page for Grissom High School, i added a legal issues section regarding a lawsuit that is currently ongoing with a former student being discriminated because she was transgender, there are multiple articles regarding this

1. 2. 3.

i also updated the address section to include the schools former address which is 7901 Bailey Cove Rd, the former location was closed in 2017 and the new location on 1001 Haysland Rd SW was opened in August of that year, the former location is currently being demolished — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@ You need to include the references for your edits in the article itself. The onus is on you to provide references for your edits, not others to verify the information. Thanks for this, but you'll need to add them to the relevant article, not my talk page. -- Longhair\talk 07:54, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

My Page[edit]

How is writing a bio about a person advertisment. He already has plenty of advertisment — Preceding unsigned comment added by DjAbscence (talkcontribs) 02:15, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

@DjAbscence: Would "that person" be yourself? Your username matches the person you were writing about. Please read over the information at WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. It is not recommended to contribute articles about yourself due to conflict of interest issues. -- Longhair\talk 02:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
No i am not him i assumed that I would use the user name as it would be linked to the page, this man is a renouned musician, so I do not see the issue... — Preceding unsigned comment added by DjAbscence (talkcontribs) 02:20, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Musicians need to meet the notability guidelines detailed at Wikipedia:Notability (music), which mentions that artists must have received significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. If an article fails to meet those guidelines it'll usually be deleted. Your username is also a violation of the username policy if you're using the name of another well known living person. I suggest changing your username if you wish to claim you're not the topic of the article you're writing about. -- Longhair\talk 02:26, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


is there a way to get all the info I wrote back and just remove the website??? I didnt save it anywhere else and need the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D4cmusic (talkcontribs) 02:53, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

@D4cmusic: I've restored the text to User:D4cmusic/sandbox. -- Longhair\talk 02:59, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
@D4cmusic: Note that simply removing the website link won't solve the issues of promotional editing. -- Longhair\talk 03:00, 12 December 2018 (UTC)