User talk:Mac Dreamstate

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Juho Tolppola[edit]

My Finnish is not fantastic so I thought maybe you may be able to assist with adding additional references to this article I created. --Donniediamond (talk) 17:22, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

If you find adding them fun then who am I to stand in the way of your joy. --Donniediamond (talk) 17:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
I have just had a chance to read over the article again. Excellent work on improving the article Mac Dreamstate. It looks so much better now. Thank you.--Donniediamond (talk) 12:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


Howdy. Usage of Welsh flags instead of British flags, was the spark that caused the dispute at Joe Calzaghe, which led to the Rfc at WP:BOXING. Which flags to use, sovereign state or non-sovereign state, will be an issue. Particularly concerning the United Kingdom. GoodDay (talk) 14:43, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

It's too bad that the Rfc at WP:BOXING didn't result in no flags :( GoodDay (talk) 19:52, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


You may be interested in knowing what this user, who received a barnstar from you, lately did... --Ali1610 (talk) 14:07, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Please don't revert it without checking everything. Many of his edits were good, he created many articles with a good quality, but also added different questionable or fake sources. Can you please list these articles alongside with his first edits he made to them? I will have a look at them and check whether the sources he provided in these cases are reliable or not. --Ali1610 (talk) 15:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the links, this was a very revealing removal. So I have found even some more fake links that have to be excluded. As you can see, only four of the articles were not compromitted by his work... --Ali1610 (talk) 20:44, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
He used (faked) images as sources, so I simply removed all images given as sources, because they in general are not reliable and can be faked easily. This included links to and some images uploaded on de:Directupload, and some from on which you cannot see anything because they are too small. Plus, I removed all references to offline books he added after checking if the particular book really exists (which was not the case in any of the ones he added, sadly). Also I removed all links to the blog (defunct since mid-2015) because the there-given sales numbers had no source either. These were the ones given in your particular articles. In other ones, he used even more different "sources"... --Ali1610 (talk) 21:54, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, it all started with self-published sources on de-WP, which we at first tolerated. When questioning his work he simply moved to en-WP, where he appearingly thought to be able to deliberately insert data without being checked much. It saddens me too, as I like Eric Clapton, too, and because I was impressed by the user’s enthusiasm about his favourite subject. But yeah, this is an enciclopedia, so we have to work properly. And for the future we shall have a close look at any such edits in Clapton-related articles! Regards, XanonymusX (talk) 22:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
The user has been blocked indefinitely at German Wikipedia, too. I will check some of his edited pages here every day until every article is clean. This article has the fate of losing most bytes (13kB!) until now... --Ali1610 (talk) 13:53, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Professor Satchafunkilus and the Musterion of Rock[edit]


I've seen that you're actively undoing / reverting many changes. But specifically speaking, about the Vaysel - Veysel change, while admitting that you're being confused about what to do as the publisher wrote the name wrong and Satch has corrected it, I think the same reaction is a bit narrow, and lacking in the name of article accuracy. I agree with you that on the track listing it should be left as is. However I also disagree with you about leaving only the album information (which is clearly wrong) and disregarding the official website information. I think that both of the information should be there in some form / explanation, as Satriani has apologized in his podcast [1] for the mistake made by the publisher and showed that he'd written the name correctly in his notes. Xalron (talk) 12:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


The Ramirez fight was a TKO. Watch the fight, it's on youtube. BoxRec is incorrect here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asifwhale (talkcontribs) 03:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Boxing style/stance[edit]

Thanks for the correction on Mike Tyson. I didn't notice it at the time, but the entry field in the infobox is "style", but it displays as "stance" in the article. Perhaps it has been discussed within the boxing project before, but would it be beneficial if both style and stance appeared in the infobox? If it is not appropriate to have both, I think it would be easier to avoid it happening again if the field was changed to "stance". I'm sure this sort of change is made by novice editors on a fairly regular basis. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I don't often edit boxing article, but will keep it in mind if I come across it again. Cheers, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:48, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Boxing MOS[edit]

I think the silence you are getting is mostly like the reason for mine. No argument. Might mention that there will be a point where you have to let it lie. Until you do it is open to argument and change - we need some time for it to gain some history.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:16, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Let lie the whole MOS, or just the flags thing? From the flags contributors, of which there were thirteen altogether (including yourself, User:GoodDay, and me), only User:Fallengrademan went on to offer any opposing feedback regarding the rest of the MOS. I've since accepted quite a few of his suggestions, and happily so, but nobody else who had a strong opinion on flags has piped in—they've had more than a chance, so indeed it does sound like "no argument". I'm thinking maybe we should wait until June, which will make it exactly a year since I first appealed for standardisation. If the occasional IP—[2], [3]—comes along to object only via boxers' bios in the meantime, I don't see any reason to give them the time of day if they don't pitch in at the Project discussion. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:48, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I meant the whole MOS thing. It may be just me but every time something gets added it runs the risk of comments from left field. I am just suggesting that it has reached the point where you should leave it be and let it settle. With respect to the flags - that argument will not reach consensus at this time. As you say maybe try again in June.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Ah true. Yes, I'm pretty much done with it now—the elements that I added/changed today were on the cards for a while, after User:Fallengrademan suggested them, and I wanted to make clear to anyone watching the Project as to what had been done. The rest is all set in stone (barring the occasional layout tweaks that I make on the provisional MOS page), so I doubt I'll feel the need to announce much else until we make another push in June. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:49, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Cheers.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:54, 27 January 2016 (UTC)


There are empty tables needs to be fulfilled between 2005-2009 ski jumping world cup seasons. When you have time. No hurry. Thanks. Sportomanokin (talk) 12:36, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Saul Alvarez[edit]

Canelo's format is the same for Mayweather's Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If nobody changed theirs then there is no reason to change Canelo's and the way it was before you changed the format looks better I tried replying but couldn't get through. -- (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Well then take the time to fix everybody else's page as well. I do not know all of the rules for Wikipedia as I only edit from time to time. I was basing the discussion by the other pages I mentioned. Thanks for the input. -- (talk) 02:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

adding content[edit]

Hi, I had ot remove one of your changes because I could not find a support for it, please try to add links to support your changes, check out wp:verifiability and wp:rs thanks Govindaharihari (talk) 06:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I think the unlinked was the ip addie previous to yours, this one I thought that was you also and it did change the detail without a link, anyways, those articles are pretty messy, lots of unverified content and such, no worries Govindaharihari (talk) 07:33, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Daulis Prescott[edit]

To explain further about the "timewarped ref" edit, the accessdate was set in the future (i.e. 13 days from now) which seemed to be a typo, so it was checked and reset to today. Also {{cite news}} is not a style but a template which improves the consistency of citations. In this case, the citation as displayed after the "timewarp" edit was identical, except for the futuristic accessdate:

Walker, Howard (10 December 2012). "Walters knocks out Prescott to claim WBA Featherweight crown". The Jamaica Observer. Retrieved 23 February 2016.
Walker, Howard (10 December 2012). "Walters knocks out Prescott to claim WBA Featherweight crown". The Jamaica Observer. Retrieved 10 February 2016. 

Note the earliest versions by the earliest contributors e.g. at creation, or at least with his correct name. Colombian subjects don't have a designated variant so should follow WP:RETAIN. Looking at those originals, a case could also be made that the accessdate part should go back to appearing like "2016-02-10". Hope this is a better explanation of the recent edits. Dl2000 (talk) 02:57, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Timothy Bradley[edit]

England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland are not sovereign states. Therefore, UK should be added. Just like we add US & Canada to Nevada or Quebec. PS - We're likely going to need an Rfc at WP:BOXING, to settle this. GoodDay (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Recommend you open up an Rfc, on this matter. Note: myself & Daicaregos are already in disagreement at the Bradley article. GoodDay (talk) 17:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

BTW: If it had been entirely up to me? I would've removed all flags & locations from all the professional boxing bout records. IMHO, we should be showing only the opponents, date of bout, result of bout. In otherwords only boxing info. GoodDay (talk) 20:00, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Update - I've removed the states/provinces, sovereign states from the location column. To match with you removal of England, UK. If you were to make a proposal at WP:BOXING, to go with this style for all professional boxing records? it'll pass. GoodDay (talk) 15:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Ski jumping junior championships in infobox?[edit]

I have a question for you? Does lower competitive ski jumping championships like: Winter Youth Olympics, European Youth Olympic Festival, FIS Nordic Junior World Ski Championships and national championships medalists belong into infobox? In my opinion not. Some user just added bunch of those results to various ski jumpers. Sportomanokin (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


Hi Mac Dreamstate!, I have a few questions to ask you about the Mos Guidelines you wrote.

  • 1) In the section Weight class and sanctioning body formatting it is implied that "The sanctioning body and weight class should be linked separately; e.g., IBF flyweight." My question is why did you revert my edits in the notes column of Kell Brook and changed it to "IBF welterweight title", shouldn't it be "IBF welterweight title"?
  • 2) There has been some controversy regarding the notes column beign too detailed, so instead of using the full venue/city/state/country (e.g., Brandberge Arena, Halle, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany) or venue/city/province/country (e.g., Club Social y Deportivo Mar de Ajó, Mar de Ajó, Buenos Aires, Argentina), why don't we just simply go for venue/state/country (e.g., Brandberge Arena, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany) or venue/province/country (e.g., Club Social y Deportivo Mar de Ajó, Buenos Aires, Argentina)? what do you think?--Fallengrademan (talk) 00:11, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ski flying[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ski flying[edit]

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Notability Criteria for boxers[edit]

Following discussion with you have been engaged in, I have put forward an amendment to the Notability Criteria for boxers which is up for discussion Here. Your in put would be greatly welcomed. --Donniediamond (talk) 09:32, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Professional Boxing Records[edit]

Anytime flags get re introduced to a boxers record we should leave it my friend dont you think? Most of the boxers pages have them so why not all? Once upon a time they all did, who's stupid idea was it to remove them anyway? Lorenzo9378 (talk) 20:35, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

RTD and TKO[edit]

Mac my fellow boxing enthusiast, got something to discuss. I noticed you made some changes to the RTD page which I'd edited, no problem with that except I think they may be a mistake, by at least one of us. See the thing is I thought the same as you, that TKO can only be the result if its a mid round stoppage by the ref. But it was infact you that made me change my own edit on there because I noticed you undid an edit that someone changed Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko result to a RTD, you changed it back to TKO becuase "his corner didnt pull him out, the ref did" which is correct but the stoppage came between rounds while the clock was stopped. So it appears TKO can be at any time (mid round or between) but has to be a referee stoppage, and RTD can only be during the minute rest period between rounds while the clock is stopped, but has to be the corner or fighters decision?

Pretty confusing I know and one other thing, the result of Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 3 (aka The Thrilla in Manilla) was RTD and Boxrec states so, which is correct because it was clearly a corner stoppage between rounds. However, on Ali's page the result is stated as TKO which I have tried to change but some serious editor (but casual boxing fan by look of it), kept saying it was TKO because "mainstream media reports say so and they are most reliable sources". He couldn't seem to grasp that RTD is still a technical knockout/stoppage and they would have called it that in the media because its far easier than explaining RTD. Just wondered if you could back me up or does the page of a legend have to continue to be incorrect. Cheers Lorenzo9378 (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Religious Bias against Ali Raymi[edit]

I am asking you politely not to be biased towards Ali Raymi, there is no religion better than other, or any GOD better than other. Ali Raymi self-proclaimed GOD status is well documented. Why does it bother you? The IBI & UBO are fringe Championship belts, that is fine, why are you removing GOD? Rmwaisted (talk) 16:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Antonio Brancalion[edit]

Strange the What links here link shows nothing. But then again wikipedia just did an upgrade so maybe database issues. Should check again tomorrow.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:34, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Klara Svensson[edit]

Awesome work on the Klara Svensson article! DevilWearsBrioni (talk) 23:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Impersonation account or alternate account?[edit]

I ran across Mac Dreamstates. I suspect this was an impersonation account instead of an alternate account for you. If this was an alternate account, I can unblock it for you. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


I see you have changed Saúl to Canelo on Saúl Álvarez vs. Amir Khan. I would advise you to move the page to Canelo Álvarez vs. Amir Khan for consistency and also change Saúl Álvarez vs. Matthew Hatton, Saúl Álvarez vs. Ryan Rhodes, Saúl Álvarez vs. Alfonso Gómez, Saúl Álvarez vs. Kermit Cintron, Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Saúl Álvarez, Miguel Cotto vs. Saúl Álvarez and on all his opponents professional boxing record tables. Thanks. (talk) 00:36, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Ali Raymi World Record? or Young Otto World Record[edit]

Seriously we can't just wipe out world records that survived over a hundred years, just because a modern boxer broke it. Restore it, its not Ali Raymi record, its how we remember Arthur Susskind, if it was easy the record would have been broken more often & fightnews will not write a feature article about it Q&A with record-breaking KO Artist Ali Raymi. We can deny our own bias, but lets not burn history books, that is what ignorant people do VanTaweel (talk) 19:43, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Lineal rd 3[edit]

You mean, your own created boxing/mos guidelines? Good luck! Seems like Floyd Mayweather Jr. page is immune to your edits. You should start there. User:Pacphobia (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:57, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

FAC: The Ecstatic[edit]

Hi. Would you be interested in reviewing my nomination of The Ecstatic for featured status? Dan56 (talk) 00:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

August 2016[edit]

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Thanks for explaining, I'll restore. GiantSnowman 07:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Tony Bellew[edit]

Hi, I noticed you updateing a lot of articles on the titles in boxing section. Came across Bellew's which needs doing as well, unless it's already on your to do list, apologies. cheers--Ruthless-paki (talk) 09:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

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Cover resolution[edit]

Hey Mac, can you lower the resolution to 300x300 on the two covers from United World Rebellion? Thanks and all the best.--Retrohead (talk) 11:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Brands and TV shows[edit]

I undid some of your edits to Anonymous Raw General Manager. Raw is a WWE brand (see WWE Brand Extension), it's also a tv show. When referencing the TV show the title must be italicized but we don't italicize the brand. An example of this would be: "On the August 12 episode of Raw, AJ Styles was drafted to the Raw brand".LM2000 (talk) 22:23, 14 August 2016 (UTC)