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Consultation about reference in deleted page[edit]

Hi, I wonder if you could give me some advise. I am searching for a reference (to add in the Wikipedia article on MIR [1], "reference needed") that I have seen before in the article "Marcello Ferrada de Noli", now deleted. First, Is there any possibility to retrieve from the archived article the references containing the word "Concepción"? 2] When I clicked on Ferrada de Noli's name, which has links embedded in the MIR article, I was directed to a page headed "Creating M ferrada de N" [2], and also a link to this talk page. My consultation being, was the deletion because of consensus, because of the information given by the delete-voters, or because the writing, etc? That article had in any case an excessive long text, some non-essential information, too. And references not updated. I thank you in advance. Patoleman (talk) 23:09, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Good morning. Thank you for your reply on why the article was deleted, and for the link. Regarding the reference that I mentioned, I have found it now in other Wikipedia article. Best regards, Patoleman (talk) 09:03, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for M-K TE70-4S[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 6 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article M-K TE70-4S, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Morrison-Knudsen built four Popsicles for the Southern Pacific Railroad in 1978? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/M-K TE70-4S. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, M-K TE70-4S), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

M-K TE70-4S[edit]

The article says that the locomotives were retired in 1987, but what happened to them? If scrapped, this should be in the article and infobox. Mjroots (talk) 10:07, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

  • @Mjroots: According to Lustig's article they somehow wound up on a deadline in Oakland, CA. Ozark Mountain Railcar owned them and listed them for sale. It's not very firm and I haven't got anything past that, so I left at the 1987 retirement. Mackensen (talk) 12:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Forum chatter says a tugboat company or some such thought about reusing the prime movers, but nothing came of it and they were scrapped in 2007. There's nothing reliable that I can find. Mackensen (talk) 12:10, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank for that. Agree with keeping to RSs. Forums can be helpful in finding them, but are not useable themselves. Mjroots (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Marcello Ferrada de Noli[edit]

Administrator Mackensen, Hello. I created the article "Marcello Ferrada de Noli" in 2009, which you deleted 3 May 2017 after seeing the discussion. As you may recall, the principal objection to "the main claim to notability", as it was referred in the discussion, was that Ferrada de Noli had never been a founder of the Revolutionary Left Movement (Chile) (MIR). However, I have now obtained NEW evidence which prove false that main argument. It is an important testimony dated 8 May 2017 [3] issued by Andrés Pascal Allende, nephew of the late President Salvador Allende and ex General Secretary of the MIR, stating: "Marcello Ferrada de Noli was one of the founders of MIR", adding that he was a co-author of the "Political-Military Thesis", "the first document approved in the history of the MIR". Andres Pascal's testimony was published three days ago by the organization Swedish Doctors for Human Rights, together with a number of other secondary sources not before cited in the WP article, and neither in the discussion. I would like to ask you if you would consider to review your decision and undelete. If I understood right, it would be possible to ask WP for a revision, in the case of new evidence. If I would be granted the possibility, I will rewrite the article completely, both attending to the WP rules and style guidelines for bio submissions (which at the time I created the article, eight years ago, I was not so familiar with), and relevant criticism arouse in the discussion. Brgds. / Inkerifi (talk) 00:34, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

  • @Inkerifi: Hello. You have a couple options available to you. First, I think I assessed the discussion correctly based on the evidence available at the time, so I'm not going to reverse myself. Given Marcello Ferrada de Noli's role in founding SWEDHR, I don't think a primary document published there would have influenced the outcome. You're welcome to seek deletion review of course. Another option would be to write a new article in the draft namespace, or perhaps in your own userpace, and then seek permission at DRV to move it back into the article space. This new article would need to incorporate these new secondary sources and make a stronger case for his notability. All the best, Mackensen (talk) 01:14, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank You, very helpful. I will study both options carefully before to proceed. In case I would try Deletion Review, it will be argued on the new evidence known after the time of your decision. And there is more evidence besides Pascal Allende's testimony. The other option is also tenable, since I was planning anyway to draft the article anew. With brgds, Inkerifi (talk) 02:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Pendulum car[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 13 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pendulum car, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the pendulum car was an experimental forerunner of the tilting train, but was not widely adopted on American railroads? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pendulum car. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pendulum car), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Sunday May 21: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon + global online challenge[edit]

Sunday May 21, 10:30 am - 4:30pm: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon
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The Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon: Met Open Access Initiative is the Metropolitan Museum of Art's first edit-a-thon, being hosted on Sunday May 21, 2017 in Thomas J. Watson Library at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.

The Met is excited to make available over 375,000 images of public domain artworks for contribution to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse collection onsite and remotely. The event is a key marker too of The Metropolitan Museum of Art's first Wikimedian-in-Residence program, with resident Richard Knipel (User:Pharos), along with Wikimedia NYC. We invite you to help enhance Wikimedia communities and platforms with open access images from The Metropolitan Museum of Art.

The event requires pre-registration. To register, 1) please sign-up with Eventbrite via The Met's website and 2) add your Wikipedia username to the #Participants on the wikimeetup page. Please check-in with museum staff when you arrive at the Thomas J. Watson Library within the museum.

We also welcome remote participation for the global Met Open Access Artworks Challenge (15 May - 30 June, 2017), you can sign up there at Met Open Access Artworks Challenge/Participants. --Pharos (talk) 16:23, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

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May 24: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday May 24, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Topics this month include the TED wikiproject, the Met wikiproject, and encouraging free video on Wikimedia Commons!

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 19:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

  • P.S. bonus event this weekend:

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DYK for PRR MP70[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 3 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article PRR MP70, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that for decades, Long Island commuters knocked knees on the Long Island Rail Road's PRR MP70 cars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/PRR MP70. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, PRR MP70), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Superliner (railcar)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Superliner (railcar)[edit]

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Thursday June 22: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA[edit]

Thursday June 22, 6-8:30pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA
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Join us for an evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art Library's third annual Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to LGBT art, culture and history.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Themes for this event include art related to HIV/AIDS activism and on LGBTQ artists of the African Diaspora as part of the Black Lunch Table project.

Experienced Wikipedians will be on-hand to assist throughout the day. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

Time: 6:00 pm – 8:30 pm
Location: Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA, 4 West 54 Street - between 5th/6th Ave, New York, NY 10019
Please note that this entrance is one block north of the main 53rd Street entrance, closer to 5th Avenue.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 21:40, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Superliner (railcar)[edit]

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DYK[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Superliner (railcar) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 20:54, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Just the standard template message here; just waiting for a QPQ to be performed. North America1000 20:54, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Would you be willing to perform a full review at Template:Did you know nominations/R v Jordan (2016). Essentially, most of the reviewing was performed by another user, so yours is not a full review, and there were objections earlier in the discussion. North America1000 21:43, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
    • Done. It's short, but similar to most legal stubs. Mackensen (talk) 21:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Collapsible s-rail[edit]

I recall you mentioning that you did some early work on the s-rail templates, so you might have a quick fix for this. A number of infoboxes have a huge number of s-rail rows that I would consider secondary - either services at a connected station, or routes that formerly served a still-active station. (All the Embarcadero connections at Transbay Transit Center made me think about this.) Would there be any easy way to make a block of s-rail rows collapsible (and presumably collapsed by default)? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:03, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

  • @Pi.1415926535: My instinct is that there isn't, because there's no real relationship between the individual rows. What could be done is a fork of {{S-start-collapsible}} that's compatible with the s-rail templates, and build that into {{Infobox station}}. Mackensen (talk) 11:52, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
  • (talk page stalker) @Pi.1415926535: The infobox subheader can be toggled to be collapsible (check the template documentation). I don't think collapsing the whole table would be as good, as then only the first header would be shown. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
    to reply to me
    12:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, my thought was more along the lines of the collapsible BS templates, where an arbitrary section of rows can be collapsed. I have no idea if that's remotely possible in this case. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
@Pi.1415926535: Those nest tables inside tables (bad for accessibility), and it's quite fiddly because it's hard to get the columns to line up with each other. It's probably possible through JavaScript to implement collapsible subheaders, but I don't know if the WMF would do that.
TheDJ, do you think it's possible to implement collapsible table rows (wherein all rows below the one with a CSS class are collapsed until a row containing <th> cells or with some other CSS class), so that bits of a table can be collapsed? Especially in infoboxes (station, rail line, locomotive) and RDTs there are quite a few nested collapsible tables being used with fake subheaders, which is bad for accessibility. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me
09:40, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Amfleet[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Amfleet[edit]

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Sunday July 9: WikNYC Picnic @ Governors Island[edit]

Sunday July 9, 1-6pm: WikNYC Picnic
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You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" on New York City's green and historic Governors Island, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.

1–6pm - come by any time! Our reserved picnicking area is Grill #5 by Nolan Park in the northern part of Governors Island.
Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner!

We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 11:02, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of EMD SDP40F[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Amfleet[edit]

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Your GA nomination of GE E60[edit]

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Your GA nomination of EMD SDP40F[edit]

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Your GA nomination of EMD SDP40F[edit]

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User:Scott19982[edit]

Could you please take another look at Scott19982? He has gone from merely annoying to outright destructive, and his messages on my talk page indicate that he has no intention of listening to my explanations of why his edits are incorrect. He has started adding incorrect dates - and changing correct dates to incorrect ones; see for example Kingston/Route 3 (MBTA station) where he added a closure date 48 years before the branch was built, and Taunton (Amtrak station) where he keeps changing the 1958 closure date to the incorrect 1959. Whether or not he's actually editing in good faith any more, I think he's doing more harm than good, and I don't see how he can be redirected to do good. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of GE E60[edit]

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Your GA nomination of City of Denver (train)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of GE E60[edit]

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July 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday July 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 02:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of City of Denver (train)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of City of Denver (train)[edit]

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DYK for Superliner (railcar)[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 14 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Superliner (railcar), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Superliner was the last rail passenger car manufactured by Pullman-Standard? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Superliner (railcar). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Superliner (railcar)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:04, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Great job promoting Superliner (railcar) to GA and to DYK! Fantastic work. One of the best pieces I've seen on the Main Page in a while. MX () 16:18, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
  • @MX: Thank you, that's most kind of you! For my part, I enjoyed writing it, though probably not as much as I enjoy riding in the actual cars :). Mackensen (talk) 13:55, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Matt Luke (American football)[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Matt Luke (American football) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  FITINDIA  16:37, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Amfleet[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 24 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Amfleet, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Amfleet (coaches pictured) was Amtrak's first new intercity passenger cars and the Budd Company's last? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Amfleet. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Amfleet), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

IronGargoyle (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Sunday July 30: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel[edit]

Sunday July 30: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel
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On the last Sunday of every month, the Boardroom at Ace Hotel New York hosts Action Equals History — a unique opportunity for New Yorkers to learn hands-on in a technology training/workshop session about the mechanics, practices and benefits of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects. This is an opportunity for all to gather, share and work collectively towards a more robust account of history.

For this month, we'll focus on Wikipedia casual editing, ways to use and develop Wikidata, building better edit-a-thon tools for a variety of different thematic campaigns, and user-testing them with the community. Towards a goal of advancing these tools for wider use with diverse local groups.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Matt Luke (American football)[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 30 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matt Luke (American football), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 22 years after he walked-on at Ole Miss, Matt Luke became its head football coach? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matt Luke (American football). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Matt Luke (American football)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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The editor with a conflict of interest in this article is waiting for a review. Please look into it when you get the chance. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC) jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for GE E60[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 10 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article GE E60, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1970s Amtrak had two new locomotives, the GE E60 and the EMD SDP40F, which had trouble staying on the tracks? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, GE E60), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:03, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for EMD SDP40F[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 10 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article EMD SDP40F, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1970s Amtrak had two new locomotives, the GE E60 and the EMD SDP40F, which had trouble staying on the tracks? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, EMD SDP40F), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:03, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

August 30: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday August 30, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 12:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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September 27: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting[edit]

Wednesday September 27, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month will also feature on our agenda, upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 00:42, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

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Invitation to Admin confidence survey[edit]

Hello,

Beginning in September 2017, the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-harassment tool team will be conducting a survey to gauge how well tools, training, and information exists to assist English Wikipedia administrators in recognizing and mitigating things like sockpuppetry, vandalism, and harassment.

The survey should only take 5 minutes, and your individual response will not be made public. This survey will be integral for our team to determine how to better support administrators.

To take the survey sign up here and we will send you a link to the form.

We really appreciate your input!

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For the Anti-harassment tools team, SPoore (WMF), Community Advocate, Community health initiative (talk) 19:52, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

The 100 DYK Medal[edit]

Dyk100CE.svg The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
This medal is awarded to you in recognition for the creation and expansion of 100 DYKs. Keep up the good work and thank you for your contributions to DYK! Dr. K. 00:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

2017 Military history WikiProject Coordinator election[edit]

Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway. As a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 29 September. Thank you for your time. For the current tranche of Coordinators, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago[edit]

Awesome
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Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:40, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition[edit]

Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition
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This event is the concluding "upload party" to the Wikipedia @ Open House New York Weekend photo scavenger hunt, and an accompanying Wikimedia Commons tutorial and multimedia hackathon,

Learn how to work with your photos to illustrate New York City articles!

Note that this is part of the larger Open House New York Weekend activities on Saturday and Sunday, when sites normally closed to the public are open for public visits and photography.

If you can, bring your camera/photos to the event, and a laptop if you'd like to engage in adding photos to articles. But this is not necessary.

For photos from last year's event, see the OHNY campaign 2016 on Wikimedia Commons.

  • Date: Sunday October 15
  • Time: 4:00 pm - 8:00 pm
  • Location: Ace Hotel New York. 20 West 29th Street, Manhattan.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:32, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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October 18: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday October 18, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Great work on taking the Superliner article to Featured Article status! Please accept this barnstar as a small token of my appreciation. I am always amazed and inspired by your railroad-related contributions. Michael Barera (talk) 18:01, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon (Nov 19) and global online Wikipedia Asian Art Month (Nov 1-30)[edit]

Sunday November 19, 10:30 am - 4:00pm: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon
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The Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ The Met will be the Metropolitan Museum of Art's second edit-a-thon, hosted on Sunday November 19, 2017 in the Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Ruth and Harold D. Uris Center for Education (81st Street entrance) at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.

Following the first Met edit-a-thon in May 2017, the museum is excited to work with Wikipedia Asian Month for the potential to seed new articles about Asian artworks, artwork types, and art traditions, from any part of Asia. These can be illustrated with thousands of its recently-released images of public domain artworks available for Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse Asian collections onsite and remotely.

10:30 am - 4:00 pm in Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Uris Center for Education
81st Street entrance, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1000 Fifth Avenue

Attendees should bring their own laptops and power cords. Light snacks, drinks and cake will be provided.

We also welcome remote participation for the global online Wikipedia Asian Art Month, running November 1-30.

Thanks, and hope to see you at the museum, and/or as part of the online Wikipedia Asian Month contest!--Pharos (talk) 16:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks[edit]

Thank You for putting in the image of the EMD F69PHAC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloudcityline1017 (talkcontribs) 13:39, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

November 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP[edit]

Wednesday November 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor) at 721 Broadway in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor), 721 Broadway
(note that we are not at Babycastles this month)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

P.S. You are also invited to Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art on Sunday November 19!

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Metrolink web[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Metrolink web has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. James (talk/contribs) 21:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

If you find yourself driving in Southern Indiana...[edit]

...you may want to check this out. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:55, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

The famed Indiana RTG! I have to imagine the property owner's tired of railfans staking out his yard. Mackensen (talk) 02:02, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

To delete: Jordan Chariton[edit]

Hi there, I saw your name on the deletion page for Jordan Chariton and wanted to alert you that the article has not been deleted. I'm an infrequent user, so no need to respond here but if there is someone who could do that, now would be good. He was just fired from his post at the Young Turks due to sexual allegations, which will likely be added to the page shortly. With only one paragraph, the page would have POV issues in no time. Thank you, petrarchan47คุ 02:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

ANI Experiences survey[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation Community health initiative (led by the Safety and Support and Anti-Harassment Tools team) is conducting a survey for en.wikipedia contributors on their experience and satisfaction level with the Administrator’s Noticeboard/Incidents. This survey will be integral to gathering information about how this noticeboard works - which problems it deals with well, and which problems it struggles with.

The survey should take 10-20 minutes to answer, and your individual responses will not be made public. The survey is delivered through Google Forms. The privacy policy for the survey describes how and when Wikimedia collects, uses, and shares the information we receive from survey participants and can be found here:

If you would like to take this survey, please sign up on this page, and a link for the survey will be mailed to you via Special:Emailuser.

Thank you on behalf of the Support & Safety and Anti-Harassment Tools Teams, Patrick Earley (WMF) talk 18:24, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

ArbCom 2017 election voter message[edit]

Scale of justice 2.svgHello, Mackensen. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting[edit]

As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the Military Historian of the Year and the Military History Newcomer of the Year. The co-ordinators invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: here and here. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Elizabeth Peer[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Elizabeth Peer you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wizardman -- Wizardman (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

December 13: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday December 13, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to AfroCROWD Street Culture Wikipedia Edit-a-thon and Year End Celebration on Saturday December 16!

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Your GA nomination of EMD AEM-7[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article EMD AEM-7 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RickyCourtney -- RickyCourtney (talk) 02:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of EMD AEM-7[edit]

The article EMD AEM-7 you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:EMD AEM-7 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RickyCourtney -- RickyCourtney (talk) 06:21, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Elizabeth Peer[edit]

The article Elizabeth Peer you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Elizabeth Peer for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wizardman -- Wizardman (talk) 03:01, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

User group for Military Historians[edit]

Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Elizabeth Peer[edit]

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Deletion discussion about Spokane Daily Chronicle[edit]

Hello, Mackensen,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Spokane Daily Chronicle should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spokane Daily Chronicle .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

Slatersteven (talk) 19:29, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference[edit]

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC 2018
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You are invited to join us at Ace Hotel for Wikipedia Day NYC 2018, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference as part of the project's global 16th birthday festivities. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with keynotes, plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 6:30 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:41, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

This Sunday! Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference (updated speakers + schedule)[edit]

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC 2018
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Part of Wikipedia's global 17th birthday celebration, Wikipedia Day NYC 2018 at Ace Hotel will include a mini-conference of scheduled panels as well as unconference style talks and discussions proposed by attendees on the day of the event. We are very excited to announce speakers such as Jason Scott (Internet Archive), Jackie Koerner (Visiting Scholar, Wiki Ed), and Andrew Lih (Wikimedia DC), as well as a fantastic line-up of panels that highlight projects and issues of relevance to the Wikimedia NYC community.

See Wikipedia Day NYC 2018 speakers + schedule

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 6:30 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk) 02:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for EMD AEM-7[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 19 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article EMD AEM-7, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Amtrak ran "toasters" on the Northeast Corridor for over thirty years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/EMD AEM-7. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, EMD AEM-7), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 03:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Image sizing[edit]

@Mackensen: Hello! I'm interested in this edit you made to the Viewliner article. Are all images in the lead of all articles supposed to be 300 pixels? I know many articles that have lead images larger than this. I thought the image_upright parameter was preferred, as it respects the reader's preferences, per MOS:IMGSIZE. It says lead images should use upright=1.35 at most, and under the section about only using pixels when absolutely necessary, that says no more than 300px for lead images. The part I'm confused about is the table under it, which states that image_upright=1.35 should be the same as imagesize=300px. Am I reading that incorrectly? WP:IMGSIZE seems to say the same thing.–Daybeers (talk) 14:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, sorry about that! Turns out I was confused about my thumbnail size preference, and I think I still am. It was on 300px, and I think I like how that looks, but now I feel it might get confusing if I'm trying to format a page with images on it, as I might not be seeing what others would see. What do you have yours set at? –Daybeers (talk) 15:50, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
@Daybeers: I use 220px, which I think is the default, or at least used to be. Mackensen (talk) 17:04, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

February 21: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday February 21, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk) 22:19, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to Africa and the Diaspora Edit-a-thon @ Schomburg Center for Black Culture on Saturday February 24!

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Another Daily Mail RfC[edit]

There is an RfC at Talk:Daily Mail#Request for comment: Other criticisms section. Your input would be most helpful. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

March 21: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday March 21, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Wikimedia New York City logo.svg

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk)

P.S. You are also invited to Art + Feminism Events in the New York Metropolitan Area continuing this month!

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CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Due to the winter storm warning, the WikiWednesday Salon & Skillshare scheduled for March 21st has been cancelled. Please consider attending one of the many edit-a-thons scheduled for this week. We look forward to editing with you soon!

--Megs (talk)

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Type parameter in infobox station[edit]

This is probably a dangerous can of worms to open, but I see you've been adding the type parameter to {{infobox station}}. I think it's an exceptionally silly parameter to have - it either describes the operating company (duplicative of s-rail) or the type of services (duplicative of the very first line of the lede). Either way, it doesn't really add much of anything, but takes up space at the very top of the infobox (i.e, where the most important information should go), and makes it longer as well. (I also think it ruins the visual look of the nicely styled headers, which I feel should have the image directly below them, but that's a side point.) Hence, I've been removing it anytime I've been doing any work on the infobox or lede of an article. But, I want to get your opinions before we start conflicting. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:53, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Ah, that's good to know that we're not in total opposition. I've started a thread here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:03, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive[edit]

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
  • updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday April 25th, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly WikiWednesday evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda! After the main meeting, pizza and video games in the gallery.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our agenda, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk)

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Re: LVRR templates[edit]

Sorry. I'm trying to set it up so Camden Station in Baltimore isn't the linked station, which it isn't. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 21:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

  • @Mitchazenia: Understood. The template's designed with that possibility; I tweaked your entry. Mackensen (talk) 22:28, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

May 23: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday May 23, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 03:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to Action = History: Wikipedia Edit-a-thon for Asian American Literature on Sunday May 27!

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NYNH&H stations (and a couple other things)[edit]

How do you wish to choose which NYNH&H stations are and aren't shown in templates, given that stopping patterns varied through the decades? For example: there was formerly a Hebronville station between P/CF and Attleboro (see map), but it was probably gone by the 1950s. Conversely, Worcester-bound trains ceased stopping at Groton at some point; by 1955, Norwich was the first stop after New London. (Similarly, Clinton was the first stop after Westbrook by then.) I'm not picky about how we decide which stations to show (perhaps only those in this 1955 timetable?), but we should be consistent.

Second, could you take a quick look at this GA review I'm working on? I'm feeling like the author is being unreasonably obstinate (refusing to accept any of my suggestions about the structure of the article) and somewhat WP:OWN-y ("We can discuss the merits of citation templates if you like, but the bottom line is I won't be doing it." rather bothered me), but it's also entirely possible that I'm just being too picky.

Third, you really ought to archive your talk page - it's getting a bit unwieldy at this point. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

  • You raise a good point about stations, one that's applicable for other former railroads as well. I'd like to straddle a line between inclusive and useful--a sea of redlinks aren't navigable. I've been working from a couple sources: that 1955 timetable, a 1967 timetable, a Penn Central employee timetable from 1974, Official Guides of the Railways from 1910 and 1950, and the USRA Final System Plan which led to the creation of Conrail. I'm leaning toward the 1955 timetable as representative, although obviously if someone writes an article about a pre-1955 station it should be included.
  • Re Groton, I was aware of Groton station (Connecticut) but didn't link to it because I wasn't sure it was the same station site. A Worcester-bound train couldn't have stopped there, right?
  • Happy to have a look at said GA and offer whatever feedback I can.
  • Talk page archived. I've settled into the April-April archive, but I never remember to do it. Thanks for the reminder :). Mackensen (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Regarding Mason, I'd certainly prefer to see citation templates used for references, but I wouldn't making it a sticking point for a GA review. The article structure doesn't seem too unusual; I read over the review and I can understand why the author made the choices he did. On some GA reviews I've done the citation maintenance myself, but usually they were transport articles where I felt comfortable with the subject matter. WP:CITEVAR is in play here as well. Mackensen (talk) 22:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
There have been a few different station locations in Groton - the original Groton Bank stations (where Pfizer is now), one right at the wye that served both Boston and Worcester trains, the short-lived Amtrak station east of the wye at Bridge Street, and Poquonnock (Midway) station where Bluff Point State Park is. My intention is to cover all of them in the article, as they share a great deal of common history.
Westbrook is the only example I can think of on the NH system (other than a few now-CTfastrak stations) where a station discontinued that early on a line that retained passenger service is a current or likely article. I think we can handle those one-by-one when they occur.
Thanks for the GA comments. I'll continue with the review. I'll never understand why some editors are so resistant to using citation templates - I would be quite useless at citing anything without them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
@Pi.1415926535: Speaking of succession templates, your input would be valuable on Talk:Tower City Center. Mackensen (talk) 01:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for June 10[edit]

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Template:NETransit[edit]

Could you help me with {{NETransit}}? I'm trying to set it up that it will say "Page numbers are accurate to the <month><day>, <year> version." (with a link) after the {{cite web}} if the {{{version}}} parameter has a YYYYMMDD code, and say nothing otherwise. Right now, the former works, but it throws an error if the version is not specified. I'm sure there's some basic template function I'm unaware of. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: I think it's fixed. You need to ensure there's a value to compare against, even if it's 0. Mackensen (talk) 01:51, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

June 20: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (and Pratt Women Wikipedia Design this Saturday June 16)[edit]

Wednesday June 20, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

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Four Award[edit]

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DYK nomination of Highland Branch[edit]

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DYK for Highland Branch[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 30 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Highland Branch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that locomotives completed a circuit on the Boston and Albany Railroad's Highland Branch? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Highland Branch. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Highland Branch), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Laughingmatters95[edit]

Another ducky Oanabay sock, it appears. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Caltrain s-rail templates[edit]

Do you have any thoughts on how to handle the oversized s-rail templates for Caltrain? On some stations, like Millbrae station, it's as tall as the rest of the infobox. My first thought would be to only show peak-direction Baby Bullet patterns (reducing 4 rows to 2) and figure out some way to simplify the limited patterns (2 rows into 1). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

  • @Pi.1415926535: I've never liked showing service patterns in the templates. It's one thing with the Baby Bullet where there's an actual article on the service and the stopping patterns are dramatically different. That said, Caltrain does call them out in the published timetables. I think I'd collapse down to a maximum of three rows (local, limited, and express), and alter the service names to link out to the "Train numbering scheme" section to make it clear that these are real groupings. I've interacted with the Caltrain articles for years without realizing that. Mackensen (talk) 01:49, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the thoughts! There are two distinct Baby Bullet patterns, but I think it should be reducible to a maximum four rows in most cases. I've also linked the service patterns as you suggested. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
I'd also appreciate your thoughts at Template talk:S-rail/lines#Revert. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Thursday July 12: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ Jefferson Market Library[edit]

Thursday July 12, 5-8pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ Jefferson Market Library
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Wikimedia NYC invites you to attend a Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon on Thursday, July 12th at Jefferson Market Library! Wiki Loves Pride is a global campaign to expand and improve LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. We are holding this year's event in July in order to support folx who want to contribute a photograph they took at one of NYC's many Pride events or edit an article about something they learned this June. Not sure what to contribute? No problem! We will have a list of articles that need your help.

5:00pm - 8:00 pm at Jefferson Market Library, 425 6th Ave

--Megs (talk) 14:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to the "picnic anyone can edit", the Great American Wiknic NYC @ Prospect Park, Sunday, July 29!

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Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/HK-MTR left/761P[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:S-line/HK-MTR left/761P has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jc86035 (talk) 14:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Illinois Zephyr and Carl Sandburg[edit]

Okay, I'll have some time this weekend to potentially do a merge. Think I should boldly merge, or do a merge request? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:00, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

  • I'm tempted to say that no discussion is necessary, given the precedent of Illini and Saluki and also Chicagoan and Kansas Cityan which I earlier this year. There's no contrary facts; Carl Sandburg was added at the same time as the Saluki and for the same reason. Mackensen (talk) 12:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Okay, done! I'm cleaning up templates, wikidata, etc now. Does Template:Amtrak Carl Sandburg need a proper deletion discussion, or can you speedy it as redundant? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Sunday July 29: Annual Wiki-Picnic @ Prospect Park[edit]

Sunday July 29, 2-7pm: Annual Wiki-Picnic
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You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's green Prospect Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.

2–7pm - come by any time! Our reserved picnicking area is by Bartel-Pritchard Square entrance, located at Prospect Park West and 15th Street.
The picnic will be held by the park's Bartel-Pritchard Square entrance immediately on the lawn to your right as you walk through the lovely lotus columns.
Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner!

We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 08:23, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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Question about railroad line categories[edit]

How are you treating situations where an old railroad built a station that was used by Amtrak, then was replaced with a new station close nearby. Leaving the old "former railroad station" or removing it completely? Example of Pontiac station (Illinois) where I've been changing Category:Alton Railroad stations to Category:Former Chicago and Alton Railroad stations. GFOLEY FOUR!— 02:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

  • If the history of the former station is covered in the new article I tend to leave the category in place (assuming there's no separate article on the former station). Otherwise, I take the category out. I doubt I've been 100% consistent. Mackensen (talk) 02:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:HK-MTR stations[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:HK-MTR stations has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jc86035 (talk) 20:42, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

disaster with respect to Soo Line Depot disambiguation[edit]

Hey, what's up? You have destroyed the previously existing disambiguation of places named "Soo Line Depot", replacing it with a list of places seemingly NOT named "Soo Line Depot". Hey that's unacceptable. Among other things, you deleted legitimate redlink entries for places of that name which are notable by dint of their being listed on the National Register of Historic Places. For now, I am going to restore the previous version. I do believe you have information that is appropriate to be incorporated somehow, although not at cost of making the disambiguation page completely non-compliant with Wikipedia guidelines. Please discuss at Talk:Soo Line Depot and/or here, and ping me or post to my Talk page if I seem not to notice postings. I do appreciate you are surely trying to improve Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 23:26, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey, i see also that in this edit you removed a category of Northern Pacific Railway stations from a place which is now a museum. I expect that it is no longer a current railway station, but our categories and list-articles include former places as well as current ones. I will revert that change. Hey, what's up, are you by chance new here? I am not sure what to do in terms of reviewing all of your recent changes for possible reversions, and/or posting at a noticeboard for others to review what you're doing. You also moved many railway station articles, without using the wp:RM process (which works really well to bring to bear considered judgment). I am not into having conflict, but these several edits seem rash. --Doncram (talk) 23:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
@Doncram: I left a comment at Northern Pacific Railway Museum explaining my rationale there. Regarding moves, WP:RM really isn't necessary for uncontroversial move. There's strong consensus that NRHP names (which weren't even followed in many cases) aren't appropriate for railway station articles. I think that's settled, else I wouldn't have done it. Inasmuch as "Soo Line Depot" is often used to refer to some of those stations I pointed them at where the articles are actually located. If they should be titled with the NRHP names instead (where accurate and appropriate) I have no objection to that, though I question the utility of such a change. On your last point, it's my impression that disambiguation pages do not in general contain red links. I used to add them myself and found I would get reverted, so I stopped the practice. All the best, Mackensen (talk) 23:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
To isolate just one point, redlinks are explicitly allowed on disambiguation pages, per MOS:DABRL. A redlink entry is supposed to also include a bluelink to a regular article that shows the redlink in context, i.e. supports the idea that the topic is Wikipedia-notable. On the Soo Line Depot disambiguation page, there were three redlink entries which were not in fact supported by bluelinks. So, a combative deletionist/obstructionist literal obstinate Wikipedia editor (not saying at all that you are one; you are in fact reporting some lack of full understanding of the type of conflict that goes on sometimes) could claim to be justified in simply deleting them. However, if you clicked on their redlinks, and then on "what links here", you would have found the corresponding NRHP list-articles which link to them. And, i would much prefer that you or others simple improve the disambiguation page entries by adding those corresponding bluelinks in a supporting fashion, as I have now done at that disambiguation page. You mention having had redlinks deleted; I hope you will be supportive of defending good redlinks in the future. --Doncram (talk) 00:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
@Doncram: I stand corrected on the question of red links on disambiguation pages; though it amounts to a technicality. In my case there were no additional links from other articles. It's a minor matter. Mackensen (talk) 00:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks about this. About whether it "amounts to a technicality" and that it's "a minor matter", well that is a matter of perspective. In the past there have been editors who basically attacked disambiguation pages in Category:Disambig-Class National Register of Historic Places articles with many tens or hundreds or thousands of edits based on their perspective about what matters, at great cost to me and other editors. I am not bent on proving you wrong in some way. I would simply like for good naming of articles to stand, and for good disambiguation pages helping readers to find their way to these articles, to stand. I don't understand what you mean by "In my case there were no additional links from other articles": as I said the redlink items did have incoming links from NRHP list-articles. Again there should have been supporting bluelinks already like what I just added, like "NRHP-listed in whatever County, State", so your not seeing their deeper, fundamental validity is understandable. In general, wherever there are conflicts in Wikipedia, it helps if editors can narrow the field of disagreement/non-understanding before bringing matters to a larger forum for review. --Doncram (talk) 00:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm unaware of these broader conflicts; I'm simply saying that when my links were removed no articles beyond the disambiguation page linked to those articles. Per the guideline you linked those links should (and were) removed. That's all. I have no strong views on this particular question and consider it closed. Mackensen (talk) 00:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but you seem to be re-asserting something false. For example, the Soo Line Depot (Remer, Minnesota) redlink item in the Soo Line Depot disambiguation page, the article National Register of Historic Places listings in Cass County, Minnesota linked to that redlink. Similarly for two others that you deleted. The correct thing to do editorially would be to add the supporting bluelink. Same for two other items there. It's not true that "no articles beyond the disambiguation page linked to those articles". --Doncram (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
No, you're misunderstanding me. I'm referring to an incident years ago, in which my addition of red links was reverted, which formed my impression of how to handle disambiguation pages. Mackensen (talk) 22:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Stop with moves of railway stations[edit]

Hey, I see in your recent edit history multiple moves of railway station articles, including this move. I think these are moves are all controversial and are not compliant with guidelines. Please don't move any more. I will, today or tomorrow, open a review of all of these to have them all moved back probably. You moved them to names that you seem to be assuming, by your original research or your own original reasoning, to be "common names" for these places, without regard for actual common/official names existing for the places. This is not right. You should have used the formal wp:RM process, but perhaps you did not view these moves as likely to be controversial. --Doncram (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Nope. These moves are all correct and per established naming policy, and your aggressive tone here is ridiculous. That move you linked to was perfectly fine to make without a RM, and I would have done the same. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
@Doncram: I've probably made over a hundred such moves over the last few months. I don't think these are at all controversial. Far from using original research or reasoning I'm following Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations), which is a guideline. I'm unaware of any guideline which says that one or more names listed on the NRHP form should be preferred. Certainly it shouldn't be accepted as an official name as many such names are clearly descriptive. Mackensen (talk) 23:59, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Okay, noted that you have done a lot more, which I think are likely to include more controversial ones. And noted that some other editor is supportive of your recent moves. Do let's continue to be civil. However, my request stands. It may take more effort now to review and retrieve more of your moves, for a full discussion. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 00:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
@Doncram: It would be helpful if you could draw my attention to the policies and guidelines which inform your claim that these moves are controversial. Simply stating that the are doesn't make them so, and doesn't give me much to go on to understand where you're coming from. Mackensen (talk) 00:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, certainly a standard "X station" name is better than the jumbled mess that the NRHP gives its stations. There are numerous stations that are listed under awful titles such as "X railroad-Y depot" or even listed under a far newer railroad. (Burlington Northern Depot seems to be be common) The one station that I saw that I could have some objection to is Omaha station (Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad), which seems to have common name usage of "Burlington Station" in sources and the current use as a TV station. GFOLEY FOUR!— 01:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
That's always been my concern with NRHP names. They're descriptive and obviously not official in any context beyond the NRHP. That's fine and I'm happy to note them in the NRHP infobox and somewhere in the main text, but we can't use them to settle article titles when there's a specific guideline in play.
Regarding Omaha, my concern there is that "Burlington Station" or "Burlington station" could in generic parlance mean any station connected with the CB&Q, its ancestors and descendants, and also any station in place named Burlington. It's getting disambiguated no matter what. Better to lead with the place where the station is found. Mackensen (talk) 01:45, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Okay, i understand from your move of this NRHP-listed railway station that you are giving me a big "fuck you" to my request that you do not make further moves. I do sincerely regard this as contested. In my opinion, you appear to be basically making shit up, for the sake of making shit up that seems more common to you, rather than accepting somewhat more formal National Register of Historic Places listed names. I requested that you do not make contested moves. My assertion that your moves are contested is evidence that they are contested. Great. See you in court, so to speak, in a day or two. --Doncram (talk) 04:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) NRHP names are not always suitable for article titles. For one thing, every word in the name is usually capitalized even if the name is obviously invented or entirely descriptive (e.g. "28th Street Subway Station (IRT)", which we can't use in its entirety for multiple reasons). MOS explicitly encourages avoiding capitalization as much as possible. Jc86035 (talk) 05:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
@Doncram: Until you answer my question regarding policies and guidelines (see above) I don't know that there's much more to discuss here. As should be clear to you from the discussion here, far from "making shit up" I'm following guidelines which enjoy consensus. That you apparently don't like these guidelines does not, in itself, make these or other moves "controversial." All the best, Mackensen (talk) 10:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
@Doncram: I see you're starting to move pages despite the discussion here. That seems unproductive. Mackensen (talk) 19:25, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

For those who have been following along at home, I have opened a formal move request at Talk:Little Falls and Dakota Depot#Requested move 3 August 2018. This strikes me as avoidable bureaucracy, but needs must. Mackensen (talk) 19:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Before any more mass moves of articles about places on the National Register, please discuss this with the NRHP project at some central location. Jonathunder (talk) 21:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

  • @Jonathunder: Can you point me in the direction of the guideline which the NRHP project uses in determining the names of articles? I looked around but couldn't find one. Mackensen (talk) 21:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
We tend to go by WP:COMMONNAME broadly and sources for individual articles specifically, which means we don't generally impose names globally and frown on mass moves. But let's discuss this. Jonathunder (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
It's been my impression that articles are simply named after whatever's in the NRHP forms; it's questionable at best that these represent the common name. If the project does tend to depart from these then that's probably wise but (a) that's not reflected in the articles I've encountered and (b) that suggests we should employ naming guidelines where possible so that we're not reinventing the wheel on each and every page. Mackensen (talk) 22:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Depew station[edit]

The disambiguation page Depew station has four entries, three of which are only red links. Per MOS:DABRED, “A link to a non-existent article (a "red link") should only be included on a disambiguation page when a linked article (not just other disambiguation pages) also includes that red link.” Searching Wikipedia shows that there are no other links to (or even mentions of) those other stations, only the new one.

Disambiguation pages are not articles; they are supposed to help the reader to navigate to the article they want. Thus, there must be a blue link (and only one!) for each entry. This page will probably eventually become a dab page, but only after articles on the other stations are written. Right now, it makes a good redirect to Buffalo–Depew station. — Gorthian (talk) 18:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

  • @Gorthian: I'm working on a follow-up article right now, and I had (per MOS:DABRED) created red links to all the articles in question. I'm not sure why you didn't see them, but they exist. Lehigh Valley Terminal links to the Erie and Lehigh Valley Railroad articles, while Buffalo Central Terminal links to the New York Central article. That aside, Buffalo–Depew station doesn't discuss the complicated back history of the three other stations and isn't a good target. Mackensen (talk) 19:36, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
I figured you were working on them. :-) But MOS:DABRED doesn’t say that a red link is okay as an entry; it says that there must be a blue-linked article for each entry, too (with certain conditions).
I did find two of your red links in an article, where they showed up as the next stations on a line, but linking that article really didn’t give the reader any information about the other stations. (I missed them because I was searching on “Depew station” and they show as just “Depew”.)
Leave the redirect for now; when your new article(s) is ready, that’s when to make the dab page. — Gorthian (talk) 19:49, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

About the protection of "Union Medical Healthcare Limited"[edit]

I know that there are sources that show it is credible, but it is mostly in Chinese. It seems like it is notable enough at only the Chinese circle.--1233Talk 07:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

  • I have no strong views; frankly I didn't remember-speedy deleting and protecting the article. Draft:Union Medical Healthcare Limited need to go through the WP:AFC process, which is backlogged. The draft is certainly better-written (and shorter) than the previous version. Mackensen (talk) 11:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
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Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

August 29: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday August 29, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

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(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 23:52, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open[edit]

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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced[edit]

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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced[edit]

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New Haven State Street station[edit]

Hello, I have opened a discussion on Talk:New Haven State Street station re: the lede. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 13:20, 20 September 2018 (UTC)