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File Deletion

You deleted File:Josh-svaty.jpg the other day, rationale invalid fair use description. I uploaded the file, and yes, was notified, and provided a full response and defense of the fair use claim. Did you look at the fair use discussion on the file's talk page? Several points, which together responded to the claimed violation of Fair Use policy violations, stood uncontested, and I would expect at least a statement of dismissal of those points and/or an actual response to them.DOH (talk) 16:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

First Impressions Speak Forever Inc. page was deleted, i agree

Malik,

First Impressions Speak Forever Inc.

Was deleted. Maybe you could edit and provide an unbiased version. Or, I could make any changes you advise. Sorry for the mistake, it was my first time.

Thank you

Cdatzy (talk) 19:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC) cdatzy Cdatzy (talk) 19:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Sean Allen

MAKHLOGA

Hello i have been trying to add information about MAKHLOGA here. Its basically a community and i represent this community. Whenever i try to add info, it comes with an error stating violations against copyright wrt www.makhloga.com. here i would like to mention that i also own www.makhloga.com and all the contents there are true to my knowledge and so the info about makhloga's which i tried to put here. pls look into the matter. you can verify my statement by sending an email to the owner of www.makhloga.com which is me and is nitin@makhloga.com. Thanks, Makhloga nitin (talk) 22:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Nitin Singh Makhloga . Makhloga nitin (talk) 22:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

House Negro

hello it's Nicole and I'm currently writing an article extending the page on the House Negro. You said some of my topics mentioned already exist, which I understand but I plan on further expanding the idea of the house Negro into each of these topics. Can you offer any suggestions to improve my article so it won't be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nreagan23 (talkcontribs) 23:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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David Ramadan Continued

Malik, I continue to disagree with your assessment. The fact that he is a TV personality by itself should suffice, regardless, here are some "outside sources" talking about David:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/16/gops-ground-zero-mosque-r_n_683509.html http://lloydtheidiot.blogspot.com/2010/07/congratulations-to-david-ramadan.html http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/09/200892172321708646.html http://bigpeace.com/jmwaller/2010/08/23/odd-connections-of-some-gop-backers-of-ground-zero-mosque/ http://www.novacommonsense.com/2011/01/11/stanley-wins-va-19-holds-hurts-state-senate-seat-for-rs/ http://www.aaiusa.org/blog/entry/arab-american-republicans-push-back-on-gop-rhetoric-on-islamic-center/

Please reinstate his Wikipedia page ASAP.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddonofrio (talkcontribs) 00:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

BillyGambela

Warned and then reported. Dougweller (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I was in the process of writing up a report myself. Face-smile.svg — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Continued vandalism, more pages

See last couple edits at contributors page which person did same thing on other articles. Thanks. CarolMooreDC (talk) 05:46, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

All my Article are back by reliable sources and citations!

I am a american born with ancestry in Egypt and Sudan! and i have all scientific documents to PROVE It!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyGambela (talkcontribs) 20:01, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

BillyGambela Part 2

He or she is at it again at the African-American article. B-Machine (talk) 22:08, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Ireland

Hello, you recently undid my edit on the Frederick Douglass page relating to a reference to Ireland. You said that when FD visited Ireland it was under British rule therefore should be referred to as the United Kingdom. I'm not sure why a country should only be referred to what it was 'officially' known as at a certain time in history, for instance, is India not referred to as India when referring to happenings pryor to independance in 1947? I don't think it's generally referred to as the British Raj. I think a reference to Ireland being under British rule at the time that FD visited in the body of the text would be better than simply saying the United Kingdom in the title. It is a contemporary article so should it not reflect today's world while referencing the way things 'used' to be? What do you think? AfroIrish (talk) 23:09, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Cantr II

Can I please get a copy of the deleted page Cantr II? Also, were you referring to a deletion discussion other than the one from 2006? Can you give me more information about why it was deleted? Joshuamonkey (talk) 00:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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Edit in the Racism in Israel article

A few days ago I made an edit in the Racism in Israel article under the username The Hasbara Buster. That username has since been permanently blocked, so here I am again with a new moniker.

You deleted my edit on the grounds that I used synthesis. On my userpage, you claimed that I listed a few recent events in Israel and referred to them as racism without actually quoting a source calling them so. However, I had quoted the defense minister of Israel calling such events "a wave of racism."

Moreover, I think you used with me a higher standard than is being used in the rest of the article. For instance, under the heading Racism by Israeli-Arabs we find the following statement:

A 2009 poll found that 40.5% of the Arab citizens of Israel denied the Holocaust, up from 28% in 2006.[79]

But no source is given that calls this attitude racism. Similarly for the following statements:

In 2010, a Jewish security guard bought a home in the predominantly Arab village of I'billin, but was driven from his home several days later by death threats.[80]
In 2010, the wall of a synagogue and a Jewish residence in the mixed Jewish-Arab Ajami neighborhood of Jaffa were sprayed with swastikas and Palestinian flags.[81]

Neither is explicitly called racism by the sources quoted.

Either a good cleanup job is in order (which would delete most of the article) or the same flexible rules that are used with other editors should be used with me, especially taking into account that I used unquestionably reliable sources, while other editors used Israel National News, a source that can't be described as anything but extremist.Desigualdad triangular (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Affirmative action

Malik, you undid my edit to Affirmative Action but stated it was a good faith edit. The statement is that the purpose of A.A. is to 'compensate'. I realise that I am not familiar with the source text, so I originally deleted the statement and citation altogether, even though it's from an ISBN. Another user removed that, so then I went back in and changed the language in an atrempt to neutralize the clear bias. And then you removed it? I am confused need advice on how to correct this page, which instructs:

"This article contains weasel words, vague phrasing that often accompanies biased or unverifiable information. Such statements should be clarified or removed" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calray18 (talkcontribs) 05:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

FYI

Your name is mentioned here [1]. -- nsaum75 !Dígame¡ 21:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for David Ramadan

An editor has asked for a deletion review of David Ramadan. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ddonofrio (talk) 13:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Userfy request

Could you userfy Honorverse concepts and terminology and Weapons technology in the Honorverse for me? I want to see if they can be rescued with some refs. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you also do so for Spacecraft in the Honorverse? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012 bid, DC chapter & next meetup!

  1. At WikiXDC in January, User:Harej proposed that DC submit a bid to host Wikimania 2012. A bid and organizing committee is being formed and seeks additional volunteers to help. Please look at our bid page and sign up if you want to help out. You can also signup for the bid team's email list.
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Need Intervention

I tagged Sam Hawkes article for WP:BLPPROD because article doesn't have any external source to signify the subject's existence and report the user Sammyo2009 (who made this) about it. But User:Sammyo2009 removed it without giving any valid reason check here. I restored the previous version and cautioned the user about it, but he again removed the deletion tag check here. I again restored the previous version and gave last warning to user, but he didn't take it seriously and again removed it. After me Some other user also tagged the article for speedy deletion but again user Sammyo2009 removed that tag also, so its my appeal to you to take necessary steps for this matter; and can you please enlighten me why my report from here has been removed by some user, is it not a correct place to report? Bill william comptonTalk 17:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment:Work is done, sorry for bothering you. Bill william comptonTalk 18:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

admin help

Hi Malik, today the article Tahrir Square was moved to Tahrir Square, Cairo and a disambiguation page created in its place. I moved the dab page to Tahrir Square (disambiguation) but am unable to move the Cairo one back. Could you return the Cairo page to the non-dabbed title? Thanks, nableezy - 22:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Malik, nableezy - 21:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for MechScape

An editor has asked for a deletion review of MechScape. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whyareall (talkcontribs) 00:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Defined Benefit Pension Schemes

Hi Malik! I was browsing the page on 'Actuary' and saw you were listed as someone people could ask relevant questions and wondered if you'd be able to help me with something.

I have to give a presentation on 'the effects of an ageing population on defined benefit pension schemes and their stakeholders' and, possessing no training in eceonomics, actuarial science etc, wondered if you might be able to either explain this to me or perhaps point me to somewhere that specifically addresses this issue (or both!).

I'd be really grateful if you could help because I don't really have any idea of where to start and I haven't come across anything enlightening on google. Thanks. asyndeton talk 16:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Women's History

WikiProject Women's History needs members' input on implementing auto-assessment. You'll find the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women's History#Auto-assessment. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 11:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

University of Dallas protected

Why have you protected this page? I am unfamiliar with this wiki feature and would appreciate an explanation. The article is satisfactory as it stands, but I was just wondering what prompted your action. Thanks for staying on top of these things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Defensor1956 (talkcontribs) 03:36, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for the explanation. I think that, upon review, you will find that my edits were almost always to resolve page blanking, an exemption to Wiki's 3RR rule. Is there an issue with the article as it stands that you think is problematic. I'm open to constructive criticism from you so that I can help make it a good wiki article that will serve this community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Defensor1956 (talkcontribs) 10:30, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Kitten

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Mordecai Tendler vandalism

Hi Malik, when you get a chance can you take a look at the Mordecai Tendler article, it is presently undergoing some vandalism and may need some semi-protection. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 21:10, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Template:Antisemitism

I thought someone would not like the JDL being added, but is it right to exclude them? Their goal is to "protect Jews from antisemitism". Even if they use means most people despise, why can't they be added to a list when they clearly meet the criteria? Passionless -Talk 05:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your hard work on so many entries and for your interest in WikiProject Women's History; I'm glad you're participating. If you have any questions, concerns, or bright ideas about the project, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Since you've been active on Wikipedia for a long time, I'd be particularly interested in hearing your thoughts about how we might recruit more editors for the project, particularly on topics related to African-American women's history. ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic | talk | contribs) 00:39, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Stop reverting my work

Stop reverting my work of making additions with references of islam and Mohammad Amin al-Husayni as part of holocaust! You said that "now the moslems are responsible and nazis not". I beg your pardon but this is not what i said, i just made additions by naming the islamic influence and al hussaini. This is not a "theory" these are facts. By saying "now the moslems are responsible and nazis not anymore" you offer an absolut false theory of my additions, and you now project your "view" or conclusion of these new informations to make my additions ridiciulous. This is an unserious method of working. Just because these new informations are opposing your personel believe doesnt give you the right to delete new additions with valid sources and references. --Santiago84 (talk) 04:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The Black Panther Party--Cointelpro

Since Cointelpro began in 1956 and focused on the early leaders of the Civil Rights movement, as well as their later offspring (including the Panthers), I believe this paragraph may be due for a rewrite. Malcolm X was certainly under surveillance during his lifetime, so I believe we need to distinguish between surveillance of early Civil Rights leaders (both non-violent and militant) and the increased attention their militant projeny garnered after 1967. J. Edgar Hoover certainly focused his attention on the Black Panther Party (and SNCC), no doubt about that, so this change in emphasis needs to be emphasized. Apostle12 (talk) 04:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

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Userfy request

Hi, could you please "Userfy" the deleted article Muse Machine for me? I'd like to try to bring it up to Wikipedia standards for articles about organizations. Thanks! Wacomshera (talk) 16:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Need admin help

Hi Malik Shabazz, i got this message from some anonymous user on my talk page, who is very much frustrated by Wikipedia. It'd be better if admin like you will answer him.Bill william comptonTalk 04:55, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

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Your AE comment

Hi, thanks for the input at AE, but I believe you are mistaken when you say that "After Marek made a single edit—an edit that was different from the one Jacurek had been making—he stopped editing the article. Jacurek started warring to keep Marek's change in the article." This does not seem to be the case, as this chronological sequence of edit shows: Jacurek, Jacurek, Volunteer Marek. In addition, there are many older reverts in the history, e.g. [2], which are also part of the edit war Volunteer Marek continued.  Sandstein  19:54, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Malik, do you consider yourself involved in this case? Because if not, being an admin, you could make your comments in the "uninvolved admins" section. Since you never took part in any revert wars of such kind, IMHO, you are uninvolved. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:06, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

AMX FAC

I have re-nominated the article for FAC, please do add your name. Also, nice work on the Legacy section. — GabeMc (talk) 00:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Windows Vista

That edit made by the IP you just blocked for 31 hours is grossly profane and insulting. Could it be revdeleted?Jasper Deng (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit Warring

The ones edit warring here are you and Cresix, you are removing factual information from a page and wiki lawyering to support your OBVIOUS ideological biases. Stand down. 174.54.34.187 (talk) 02:21, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

You know that this doesn't help, and you will probably be blocked.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:42, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Tim Wise

Thanks. I was just getting ready to do that. Best! Cresix (talk) 02:30, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Please review new article

Hi. I've created a new article, Jews and money and I would appreciate any feedback. If you have any time, could you take a look at it. Specifically: (1) I want to ensure that it meets very high standards of neutrality ... do you seen any issues or shortcomings? (2) The title doesn't seem satisfactory. Can you suggest a better title (see my notes in the article's Talk page). And, of course, you are free to edit the article directly! Thanks in advance. --Noleander (talk) 16:08, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of article on Henry Drinker

I am curious about your deletion of the article on Henry Drinker. I believe I may have contributed to that article, although I was not its author or even a principal contributor. I see the reason was copyright violation. I wonder if there is a record of what was deleted, so the problem could be corrected. Drinker's notability in both musicology and legal ethics scholarship (an unusual combination) warrants inclusion in the encyclopedia, it seems to me. - Peter 108.2.147.192 (talk) 02:21, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

The old article was largely copied from here. If Henry Drinker was notable, please feel free to start a new article based on what has been written about him in reliable sources. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:37, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Malik. That's very helpful. I hope that I or someone else more suitable will be able to get a new article up soon. - Peter 108.2.147.192 (talk) 03:47, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Black nationalism as part of Black Panther Party identity

Sorry, didn't mean to write over you; your comment appeared before I had an opportunity to read it and respond.

Perhaps we might agree that black nationalism was an important early identifier, even though it was ultimatley rejected as official BP policy. Whether the later condemnation of black nationalism was a "pose" might be more open to interpretation--this is my opinion, however I would not attempt insert it into the article.

When H. Rap Brown was appointed BP Minister of Justice, he spoke on Huey's birthday at the Oakland Auditorium before a crown of 6,000 saying "Huey Newton is our only living revolutionary in this country today. He has paid his dues. He has paid his dues. How many white folks did you kill today?" James Forman, newly appointed BP minister of foreign affairs, followed with an incendiary speech that could only be interpreted as black nationalist and anti-white. The mostly black crowd exploded in approval, and BP enrollment skyrocketed.

I do believe, given this historical evidence (not the mention the personal experiences of many) that the "black nationalist" label is appropriate, since it was an important Party identifier during the early, critical period of Party growth. That it was ultimately rejected is clearly stated in the article; we can leave the motive alone. Apostle12 (talk) 05:16, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Becky Edelsohn

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More problems with AFolkSingersBeard

AFolkSingersBeard (talk · contribs) is once again deleting other people's edits, this time the addition of an SPA tag by Crotalus horridus (talk · contribs) [3] and edit-warring on Women's rights in Saudi Arabia [4]. Do you think you could possibly give him an appropriate warning? Prioryman (talk) 13:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, unfortunately he has just this minute - and after you warned him - done it again.[5] This guy clearly isn't listening to anybody. Prioryman (talk) 19:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
FYI, he's broken 3RR now, so I've reported him to the 3RR noticeboard for action. Prioryman (talk) 21:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

1RR

I saw you reporting a user on WP:AN/EW. I don't see you involved in it. Thus, can't you go block the user on your own?Jasper Deng (talk) 03:02, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Please intervene

At Cody Orick, there are serious BLP issues, and in addition, one or two IPs that need to be blocked. Comment in the AfD as well.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

If you see this page recreated, salt it fully (create=sysop). Block any users making it if they were involved in adding BLP violations to the page BEFORE this deletion.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Nice job!Jasper Deng (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
No problem.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Cody Orick

Well done! Thank you for responding so promptly. Cullen328 (talk) 03:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome. On another matter, your username reminds me of the sadness I felt yesterday morning upon reading about the death of Manning Marable on the eve of the publication of his book about Malcolm X. I had the pleasure to hear Marable speak a few decades ago, and his early departure is a loss, in my view, to our culture. Best regards to you. Cullen328 (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

IP address?

I have never edited any article about any place other than Thailand :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.183.144.240 (talk) 15:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

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Question

Hi Malik, I saw the resolution at WP:ANEW - thanks for getting involved in this. I would like to move forward, together with TheCuriousGnome once the ban has expired, to reach a consensus. Please could you let me know if I am ok to revert TheCuriousGnome's 1RR violation back to the previous name Template:Palestine topics? Once that has taken place, I propose to continue the discussion. Thanks. Oncenawhile (talk) 16:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Malik, thanks for your reply. I understand your point, but if admins allow a violation of WP:1RR to create a new WP:STATUSQUO, it sets a very bad precedent. Leaving it unchanged will reward bad behaviour. Oncenawhile (talk) 01:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Malik, thanks for your reply. I intend to be patient and have a full discussion with the community. I just tried to revert the move but I wasn't able to do so - are you able to do so on my behalf? Oncenawhile (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi Malik, ok but perhaps I should have explained myself further - there is a second and perhaps more important reason why the template name move should be reverted - I have set it out at the admin discussion WP:AN3#User:TheCuriousGnome reported by User:Malik Shabazz (Result: 24h). Oncenawhile (talk) 01:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Palestinian people edit

I explained why I took out the two historians (they both were quoted to express the old "Palestinians are ancient" idea that you could expect from those two culture warriors) and I also noted that I was removing weasel words.

I made numerous edits throughout the article that corrected POV or implied POV statements into neutral ones. I also removed emotional superlatives. This I called weasel wording. Maybe I am too general with that phrase. In the summary I quoted "longing for a lost homeland" as something I fixed.

Did you look at the edit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.160.54.198 (talk) 23:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You might consider making two or more edits, so editors who disagree with you in part can revert you in part. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, good point. I should have done that.

I see you still want the article to say "Avi Shlaim explains that the argument that "you never had sovereignty over this land, and therefore you have no rights," has been used by Israelis to deny Palestinian rights and attachment to the land."

This is POV. If Israelis are denying rights and attachments, that means Palestinians have obvious attachments that are being denied (a weasel word). Also, the quote is trying to put a juvenile, shrill accusation in the mouths of Israelis. that is innappropriate.

I thought my edit of that paragraph was neutral. If you disagree, you should have made it neutral, instead of reverting to a bad version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.160.54.161 (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Monome

Hi, I wanted to give you a heads up that I created a new page for Monome last night. I saw in the history that you deleted an earlier version of the page. Let me know if you see any issues with the new one. Tfbt (talk) 18:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:WQA

size=100px I know as an admin that you know better than to use vulgar language [6]. Then again, that user should not violate copyrights, but still, it does not warrant vulgar language.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

If I may interject, jackass is not actually vulgar, whereas calling someone an "ass" is. They have the same meaning in this use, but the former is a euphemism (basically calling someone a jerk), though both would count as ad hominem attacks said out of great frustration. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 07:17, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Admin help needed

Re: User talk:Fastily and Could you do it or should I got to AN? Shouldn't be controversial... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

RM alert

There's a move request discussion going on at Talk:Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority#Requested move, with which you were previously involved. I'd be grateful if you could contribute to the new discussion. Nightw 08:22, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

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Mmm, maintenance

Hey MS.. Just want to say Thanks for your tireless vigilance against unhelpful edits. I've been away for a while, and it's nice to see good people helping to preserve the quality of articles I worked on. Have a donut. Scartol • Tok 01:09, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a study

I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to Main Study. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates about 20 minutes. I chose you as a English Wikipedia user who made edits recently through the RecentChange page. Refer to the first page in the online survey form for more information on the study and me.cooldenny (talk) 02:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Monitor. WikiProject Poland Newsletter: Issue 1 (April 2011)

WikiProject Poland Newsletter • April 2011
For our freedom and yours

Welcome to our first issue of WikiProject Poland newsletter, the Monitor (named after the first Polish newspaper).

Our Project has been operational since 1 June, 2005, and also serves as the Poland-related Wikipedia notice board. I highly recommend watchlisting the Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions. We hope you will join us in them, if you haven't done so already! Unlike many other WikiProjects, we are quite active; in this year alone about 40 threads have been started on our discussion page, and we do a pretty good job at answering all issues raised.

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I think these two are Tgandz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jwcraig79

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kim38keen

What do you think? Answer here.

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I agree with you about the second editor and have blocked the account under WP:DUCK. The first account has made only one edit. Unless it becomes disruptive, I don't see any reason to take action. If you disagree, feel free to start a SPI. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


Can you block these two socks and close the article from new accounts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vcon118

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rnovededez

--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 08:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I've semi-protected the article and blocked the socks. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

FYI

I assume you know about Marable's new biography of your namesake.. I came across this conversation today and thought you might be interested. Scartol • Tok 17:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Mumrur.. Scartol • Tok 00:51, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Howdy

Hey Malik, we're commemorating more than just the War Between the States, though it's an uphill battle. All the best, Drmies (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

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Elvis

Hello. There is a spirited debate taking place at Talk:Elvis Presley concerning the possibility of him being part Jewish. There seems to be a line of thinking there that someone must subscribe to the Jewish faith to be considered Jewish. Although we haven't spoken before, I have seen you around, and I admire your contributions. As you identify as Jewish, I was wondering if you would be willing to weigh in on this sensitive issue. Regards. Joefromrandb (talk) 00:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. Joefromrandb (talk) 05:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I didn't know he was Jewish. Now, upon clicking his userboxes, I see that he is indeed a Jew. Good to know. =) Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 10:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

There is much evidence that Elvis had deep Jewish family roots

Elvis's personal development must have been governed by some form of Jewish tradition, and this certainly would have considerable relevance for the singer's biography. Let’s stick close to the reliable sources, i.e. the material that has been published in books on Elvis:

"Elvis' confusion and secrecy about Judaism came from his upbringing. When he was quite young Gladys told him that her maternal grandmother, Martha Tackett Mansell, was Jewish." See Larry Geller, If I Can Dream: Elvis' Own Story (1989), p. 69-70.
Martha "was the daughter of Abner and Nancy J. Burdine Tackett and ... Nancy is of particular interest to us. According to Elvis' third cousin Oscar Tackett (who shared the same ancestors, Abner and Nancy), Nancy was Jewish. ... Again, names often tell a story and two of Martha's brothers were given Jewish names, Sidney and Jerome." See Elaine Dundy, Elvis and Gladys (2004), p.21.
"Geller claims in his book [If I Can Dream: Elvis' Own Story] that Gladys told Elvis she had Jewish ancestors, starting with her maternal grandmother, Martha Tackett Mansell. Which is pretty close to what Elaine Dundy says in her book." See Alanna Nash, Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations from the Memphis Mafia (1995), p.2-3.
"Elvis's identification with the Jews continued once he became a star. When the Jewish Community Center was built in Memphis during the 1960s, he donated money for its construction. He had a Star of David engraved onto Gladys's tombstone, and often wore a Chai, the Jewish symbol for life, on a necklace." See Glen Jeansonne, David Luhrssen, Dan Sokolovic, Elvis Presley, Reluctant Rebel: His Life and Our Times (2011), p.31.
"The King of Rock 'n' Roll officially qualifies as a Member of the Tribe. Technically speaking, Elvis was a Yid. … The King actually knew about his Jewish roots, but his parents reportedly suggested he hide them." See Lisa Alcalay Klug, Cool Jew: The Ultimate Guide for Every Member of the Tribe (2008), p.14.

As ElvisFan1981 has pointed out, there are images of Elvis wearing the Star of David on stage. Gladys's original grave did indeed have a Star of David, and the grave was designed by Elvis himself with knowledge of his mother's Jewish roots in mind. Furthermore, there are several Star of David watches which Elvis designed with Marty Lacker and had manufactured by Harry Levitch Jewelers of Memphis. For one of these watches, see [7]. All this suggests that Elvis was deeply influenced by some form of Jewish tradition. The only person explicitly claiming that Presley was not Jewish is Jewish columnist Nate Bloom on a webpage entitled "The Jews Who Wrote Christmas Songs". See [8]. Bloom's only argument is his claim that a detailed check of available records (which records?) shows that Elvis's maternal ancestor was not Jewish and that he spoke to the daughter of the rabbi who allegedly said that her mother told her that Gladys never said a word about any Jewish ancestor. Interestingly, Bloom doesn't know the family name of the said rabbi, and he doesn't even know Larry Geller’s statement that Gladys told Elvis that her maternal grandmother, Martha Tackett Mansell, was Jewish. This means that Bloom's remarks are poorly sourced. To conclude: Bloom’s personal opinion published on an obscure webpage isn’t a reliable source according to Wikipedia standards, whereas the other books cited above are reliable sources. What do you think? Onefortyone (talk) 02:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

You probably saw this person's reply, but in case you didn't...

User_talk:Kellyjets#New_articles Have a great weekend! --joe deckertalk to me 17:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh jeez not this again... Regarding your 5 minute instant revert of Palestine Papers

So you undid my edit within 5 minutes of making said edits. Why did you do it? How did you know it was even edited? What was wrong with my edits to counteract pov? Did you even read the articles that state the same information which i'm stating? also, original research? You are saying the settlements are not internationally held as illegal? Do I have to cite the UN and all the nations of the world and the international courts of law that say that they are illegal?

You are uncivil and not acting in good faith when you erase sections of an article that I created and where only changed to the sanitized white wash that is currently there by a known individual who has on many occasions inserted a lot of pov. You are uncivil because you never bothered to even discuss it with me or others and you act in bad faith by doing such things. Please stop. If you want to debate your case then please respond with a coherent scholarly reason why. Just don't issue a threat. Thanks. --General Choomin (talk) 22:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Surprised

I was surprised to see that you have no strong feelings about calling the Arizal "Palestinian" rather than "Jewish". Debresser (talk) 22:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I, frankly speaking, would be afraid to replace the words "rabbi and Jewish mystic" by the word "Palestinian" on an article about the Arizal. Apart from the fact that it is an example of "tofes et hatafel umaniach et haikar". Debresser (talk) 23:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Not at all! Can someone not be of ethnicity and nationality or attach to themselves regional identity? I am a British Jew. Not just Jewish. Both are notable and encylopeadic labels. When I get my own wikipage, I will expect both to appear, with the relevant categories. Don't be so narrow-minded! The Ari was a Palestinian Jewish sage. Nothing more, nothing less. There are Jews scattered all over the globe, is it not proper to give them regional identities too? Chesdovi (talk) 12:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Here is what you said and here is my response.

Do you understand what original research means here on Wikipedia? It means including things that aren't in the source. And that's exactly what you did—included things "everybody knows" that weren't in the source. - You on my talk page telling me to not "belly-ache" about it.


This is what you said. Now the source I provided states in the first sentence "The Palestinian Authority proposed an unprecedented land swap to the Israeli government, offering to annex virtually all of the illegal Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem."

Please at least try to read the sources yourself. We have had the same type of discussion in the past when I started the article. It was in fact about you dictating to me what the difference between OR and vandalism was. Maybe you should stop because the last time you did issue a thinly veiled threat of me being blocked. If you have a problem with things in the article please use the articles talk page. Something I have always been using to try to get a consensus. Something you have only used once, ironically enough, on OR.

Please stop and actually contribute to said article. There are thousands of documents to view over and add to the article. I hope to see you contributing and reading the sources used instead of policing people. I also hope to see you discussing changes to be made in the article using the articles talk page. Thanks for your time.--General Choomin (talk) 22:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Question

Malik, may I please ask you, if you have a time and a wish to copy-edit my new article that I am going to add to mainspace in a few minutes? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Here it is Todros ben Judah Halevi Abulafia, but, Malik, in no way I like you to feel pushed to help me. If you have no time or not interested in the subject, it is perfectly alright. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Malcom

Dear Malik, I just wanted to express my thanks for your work on the Malcom X page. Fixing capitialization is my latest fixation, and it is a darn well-written article. Really amongst the best. (Also I intend to steal a number of items from your user page.)Paul, in Saudi (talk) 09:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Welcome

Heyo Malik,
I think you are right about your initial observation regarding the used word being "Muslim" rather than "Palestinian". I would welcome you to make some talkpage suggested rephrase that would work better with the source I presented and perhaps with another source or two if you are so inclined.
Warm regards, JaakobouChalk Talk 12:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Malik, thank you for helping me out with the article, and for commenting on it on my talk page. With this Mother's Day celebration yesterday for my mother-in-law and today for me I've almost missed an opportunity to add you as a creator that you would be given DYK credit, but I did it now in the preparation area. Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Possible image for Point of view pornography

Hi Malik, I was wondering if you had the connections to get permission to use screenshots of a hamedori film for the Point of view pornography article. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Pornography page recommends reading your essay when looking for permission to use pictures. However, I do not have any connections to Japan (let alone its pornography business) and was wondering if you could help. One of the reasons I am contacting you is because you are listed as a member. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I noticed I was redirected, but thought you might have been the same editor after changing names. I guess we will have to keep it imageless for now; User:Seedfeeder isn't doing images anymore and I don't know anyone else who was active with that. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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Please Stop the Bullying

Seriously, there have been both bad and redundant edits by both Judith and Parkwells in the past month and you reverted none of them. STOP GOING AFTER ME PLEASE. Please take it to the discussion page instead of pulling rank on me. Thank you. Catherine Huebscher (talk) 11:59, 15 January 2011 (GMT)

DYK for Todros ben Judah Halevi Abulafia

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

יום העצמות שמח לך...

יום העצמות שמח לכל! =D Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 00:24, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Help request

Hi Malik, I am writing an article in my user space. Could you please white-list [http //www.examiner.com/airlines-airport-in-national/a-forgotten-hero-from-world-war-ii this article] for me to be used as a source? It did not let me to link it to your talk page either, but if you are to add ":" after "http" you'll get it. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:22, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi! My articles have been of late listed for deletion, though I was promptly addressing the issues raised on them. All my pages, R. Raj Rao, Do paise ki dhoop, chaar aane ki baarish, Freaky Chakra, Mondo and Anuradha Ghandy, have been listed for deletion. Please check the deletion entry page and also check the references. Your help would be highly appreciated. I am new here on Wikipedia and any help in improving my articles with your edits would be such a nice gesture. Thanks. Manorathan (talk) 11:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Threats/Bullying

I don't know why you are trying to intimidate me, but I have been receiving numerous threats of banning without proper explanations.

I have never vandalized or added POV material to an article. I have never attacked anyone personally. If I am mistaken, can you show me where?

I have read the pertinent guidelines. Am I being targeted for some reason? My content isn't being questioned. Only my privelege to edit threatened.

You said you'd have me banned for commenting on a theory a person added to a talk page. Can you help me understand the mistake? Are you attempting to "shout me down" for my opinions?

132.160.54.193 (talk) 18:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


THIS IS NOT AN INSULT BUT PLEASE, PLEASE CONSIDER STEPPING DOWN AS WIKI ADMIN. IT IS PERHAPS TIME. Thanks, Catherine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catherine Huebscher (talkcontribs) 10:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

AMX FAC round four

I have renominated AMX for FAC, I think we might get it passed this time. — GabeMc (talk) 21:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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Happy Birthday!

Just a Little something

...to your namesake. Watched this. Thought of you. That's it.

Let me know if you're sick of the links and I'll stop plastering them on your talk page. 8) Cheers! Scartol • Tok 17:12, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Freedom Riders

Hey Malik, you watching TV? Odd to see my city on PBS. Also odd to see to what levels perfectly ordinary people will stoop. Drmies (talk) 02:17, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Well, James Zwerg was truly impressive. Moved me to tears a few times. What I thought was interesting, at the end he got the obligatory question about progress and change, and one of the things he said was, "I come from Arizona. THERE ARE NO ILLEGAL HUMAN BEINGS." Friday he'll be there to open the museum, and apparently John Lewis is coming to town as well. Are you sure you can't pop down for the day? It starts at 10... Take care Malik, Drmies (talk) 19:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I will have to miss the first part. Did you know that day care Montessori has graduation ceremonies for 2 and 5-year olds? I got guilted into going, though with a bit of luck I can hear John Lewis. BTW, Morris Dees was sitting in the same row as I was at Zwerg's reading, so I was only five seats away from fame. If we ever sit down for coffee, I'll tell you what Zwerg explicitly didn't say--hard to type it out. Oh, thanks for the vote of confidence, Malik. Drmies (talk) 05:08, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Patrick Bradley (entrepreneur)

Perhaps enough of an assertion, but I am having a very hard time finding a reliable source to verify that fact. The ref provided is apparently a user-supplied directory of some sort. This whole article strikes me as likely promotional, possibly self-promotion. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 14:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, good enough to get past a speedy. PROD or AfD? Not sure yet. A Clio is a pretty big award, so it may be enough. That is the only reference that verifies this award for Bradley, though that is about as official as one can get. I tried looking through that earlier, but came up empty - that part of the Clios site isn't the best design in the world. I'll let this sit over the weekend, mainly because I'll be on the road. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 20:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI

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Should have looked more carefully

Hi. Sorry about this; I should have looked at the source article much more carefully, instead of just the journal. I'm curious, though, to know whether you saw this review of the debacle on PubMed Central? It says, in part:

Scott Plutchak, editor of the Journal of the Medical Library Association ... pointed out that “there was no claim of scientific inaccuracy” and questioned the copyright holder's right to change the electronic record simply because it is technically possible to erase a document. Erasure meant that many people who wished to study the article were no longer able to obtain it except through the grapevine.The article was published at a time when readers' emotions were heightened by the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, DC. It may be that Dr Suciu-Foca's decision was partly informed by these events. She was apparently under strong pressure to take expedient measures, stating that immediate action was needed to prevent “mass resignations from the editorial board and destruction of the journal.”

Another section of the same paper says the data itself wasn't faked. Fascinating stuff, anyway. If you'd like to reply you can do so here, as I've temporarily watchlisted this page. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 03:58, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

When I put the "verify credibility" tag up last month, I invited editors who know anything about genetics—a group that certainly excludes me—to find another source that could replace the retracted study. I didn't know the backstory about the retraction. Maybe I'll move the whole discussion to Talk:Palestinian people. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:11, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks; I think that's a good way to address this. I hope someone with the training to review that paper for us, and perhaps the flurry of papers that cite and discuss the aftermath of its retraction, steps up and does so... I do know all about wp:or, of course, re article space, but we're not prohibited from wp:originalthinking I hope, on talk pages. ;-) Cheers,  – OhioStandard (talk) 05:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Isn't there some sort of expert request template similar to an RfC template? Of course I'm not sure how you'd attract the right type of expert with one of those in this case. =p Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 05:13, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Women's History banner

I agree with what you said here. Unfortunately, it's continuing. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Question

Hi Malik, could you please tell me, if this could be used as a source? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

I have Malik's page watchlisted because of the section above. It's fine; see WP:NEWSBLOG.  – OhioStandard (talk) 05:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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