User talk:Malik Shabazz/Archive 39

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have a question

Malik, an admin, Graham87, is making changes to an article I created without using the talk page. I just created the article within the last 24 hours and was about to go back to working on it when I noticed all the changes. Could you take a look? Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome. I had put (HPS) in the title because there are various pulmonary syndromes and the literature does differentiate. I'm confused because the article is well-sourced and I don't see the problem. Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 02:41, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

also, whatever he's done, I've no longer got credit for creating the article. It seems he's undeleted the redirects, deleted the page I'd created, and then moved the content I created to Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome which is an old redirect that went to Hantavirus. Malke 2010 (talk) 02:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I realized you had stopped editing for the night, so I took it to ANI. [1]. Malke 2010 (talk) 07:08, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Why my article is deleted ???

Hello , I have just created my article about Canadian Institute of Technologyand it was deleted for third time This article is not created for advertising purposes, but it gives only information about our institution We hope that you are going to take into account our request Thank you in advance Cit tirana (talk) 09:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)Canadian Institute of TEchnologyCit tirana (talk) 09:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


Why did you revert my edit? The old wording was very far from neutral (talk) 02:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

The phrase "partition of Palestine" is "far from neutral"? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:06, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, considering that partition doesn't describe what happened, and legitimates what was seen by everyone execpt the UK and Jordan as an illegal move at the time. (and that the mandate had ended by then, so there wasn't anything called Palestine at that time) (talk) 19:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh, but "Arab occupation of parts of Israel" is neutral? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:41, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Isn't that exactly what happened? (talk) 21:08, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
No. How were "parts of Israel" occupied if Israel had never controlled the land? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:29, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Two ways: It's still Israel in the geographic sense, and by nature of the State being the successor to the ended mandate (and it's exactly the terminology that the people in question would use) (talk) 22:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


Thank you ever so much for the speedy deletion of List of Disneyland railroads. You did not even have the patience to wait for opinions and input from other Wikipedians. A list is for the purpose of X referencing articles covering related topics, not to inform per se. Now the article needs to be replace by a {{navbox}}. Peter Horn User talk 18:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion bypasses a deletion discussion in certain limited circumstances, including articles consisting only of "See also" sections. See WP:A3.
If you'd like me to restore the "list" so you can add an introduction to it, please let me know. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:40, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Just put the List of Disneyland railroads on my talk page so that when I can find the time to do so I can create a {{navbox}} which will tie all the Disneyland railroads together just as it is done for other related articles (Classes of locomotives etc.). "Merci buckets". Peter Horn User talk 15:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi Malik,

Thanks a lot for your attention on this. Yesterday I created an article named 'JTTechnosoft' but it has been edited and deleted by you assuming it was a promotional which in fact is not. It is about a company called JT Technosoft Inc., which is a Canada based business solutions company. The article was not any promotional nor with any marketing objectives on wikipedia. Please reconsider your decision of deleting the article and reinstate it to be on wikipedia. For any further questions/concerns please let me know.

Thanks a lot, Sudhakar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmas2012 (talkcontribs) 02:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sudhakar. It may not have been your intention, but the article you wrote was promotional in tone.
To write an encyclopedia article for Wikipedia, please summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about a subject. Please read WP:Identifying reliable sources to see what types of sources are considered reliable. Press releases and company websites don't qualify.
Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Deleted article on the Foto Colectania Foundation, Spain

Dear Malik Shabazz

A few days ago we wrote an article about our non-profit foundation in Barcelona, named "Foto Colectania". However, our article has been deleted for been "unambiguous advertising or promotional":

We really do not understand why. We already read the page of wikipedia about advertising articles.

We are a non-profit institution and we wanted our goals and activities to be announced in Wikipedia. Other museums and foundations of the city of Barcelona have done exactly the same:

What should we do to avoid our article to appear as advertising? Could you userfy it?

thank you very much in advance.

best, Anna Printezi Foto Colectania team — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anna. To write an encyclopedia article for Wikipedia, please summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about a subject. Please read WP:Identifying reliable sources to see what types of sources are considered reliable. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

01:12, 6 July 2013 Malik Shabazz (talk | contribs) deleted page Sticky Studios (G3: Vandalism - blatant hoax or misinformation (CSDH))


Please can you clarify why you nominated the page Sticky_Studios for speedy deletion under G3: Vandalism? The page was freshly created and as far as I'm aware contained no blatant hoaxes nor was vandalised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamcoltman (talkcontribs) 18:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I didn't nominate the page for deletion. I deleted it.
It appeared to be a hoax because the article wasn't about "Sticky Studios" and none of the sources mentioned "Sticky Studios". — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:00, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Paula Barbiari

Can you delete the page Paula Barbiari? I notice that it violates wikipedia's notability guideline.From the dectective-The Maigne Event (talk) 15:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Are you referring to Paula Barbieri?
There are three ways to delete an article. First, if it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion. As an alternative, an editor may propose the article for deletion or nominate it for a deletion discussion.
I don't think Paula Barbieri would qualify for speedy deletion under criterion A7 (no assertion of importance or significance) because the article has reliable sources. If you think Barbieri fails our notability criteria, try WP:PROD or WP:AfD instead. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:39, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
If that's who is meant, she gained enough notoriety (word meant neutrally) around the O.J. Simpson case that I don't think the article would pass WP:PROD, either. I suggest going straight to WP:AfD. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
I suspect you're right. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Malik,can you at lest nominate the page for deletion? From the dectective-The Maigne Event (talk) 22:31, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

You haven't confirmed that Paula Barbieri is the page you're referring to. In any event, if you feel she's not notable, feel free to start an WP:AfD discussion yourself. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:44, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Can you create the link to this page to Paula Barbieri's talk page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Maigne Event (talkcontribs) 22:50, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Try Talk:Paula Barbieri — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:02, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I am interested in this case because I am Mark Fuhrman.From here-The Maigne Event (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Whatever. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Why did you delete my article.

I am asking you why did you delete my article from my personal sandbox... I was in no way going to publish it... it was just for a project/free-time thing I did for my nation states country called Emenia. I know it's all fake, but isn't that what a user (personal) sandbox is used fill (if you want) it with useless info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbstewart985 (talkcontribs) 19:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

The intent is to write an encyclopedia. You can install the Wikimedia software on your PC and edit personal projects unrelated to WP to your heart's content. That's what I did. VєсrumЬа TALK 19:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

but..the thing is... I need it to have a link so other people can access it. Plus all the templates that Wikipedia provides... are quite frankly a lifesaver. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbstewart985 (talkcontribs) 19:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I understand, but Wikipedia is not a web hosting service. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
@Jbstewart985, you can (again) install on your PC, configure VPN, send out dynamic DNS, and run "Wikipedia" hosting from your PC at home. As Malik indicates, Wikipedia is not a free resource to munge off for your personal projects. There are also many cheap web hosting services that come with Wordpress, Joomla, and other content management tools. VєсrumЬа TALK 01:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Is there a way I can do that... and have all the templates (mainly infobox country....) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbstewart985 (talkcontribs) 13:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Tundak/banned user

Hi, you recently deleted an article per CSD G5. I'm not aware of the user & now cannot see the history but obviously there is a chance that they may return. I'd appreciate a link to the user account if possible. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 00:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sitush. The editor who created the article is User:Rajkumartundak. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 00:39, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks. I'll keep an eye out. - Sitush (talk) 00:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


Is there some reason 2009 flu pandemic doesn't have a 'move' button? I looked at the talk page but didn't see any history of ArbCom or other mediation. Malke 2010 (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Because of its history of vandalism, the page was move-protected so that only admins can move it.[2] If you want to move it, I recommend starting a discussion. See the instructions at WP:RM/CM. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I was more curious than wanting to move it. I'd never seen that before. Thanks for the info. Malke 2010 (talk) 02:01, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

appreciate your advice and expertise

It appears you deleted the wiki-pedia article about me. Please read the LA Times Article written about me that was carried around the world in more than 25 other major news organizations:,0,7543341.story?page=1

Please review the site about me:

Here is my resume:

Feel free to write an appropriate wiki-pedia article about me as it seems whatever is submitted by anyone seems to be deleted for reasons no one can understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:51, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello. There was no Wikipedia article about you. There was a user page on which somebody had created an overly promotional page about you. It turns out that page was copied and pasted from in violation of copyright law.
If you think you merit an encyclopedia article, try listing yourself at WP:Requested articles. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Hadi Rishi Esfahani

About a year ago, you G4'd Hadi Rishi Esfahani twice. The article has been recreated, and as far as I can tell the article still fails the same notability guidelines as a year ago. Unfortunately, I can't find the original discussion. It seems to have used a different spelling of his name. Could you delete the article and/or tell me where to find the original discussion? Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi. The original discussion was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iman Kiani. I've deleted and salted the article. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

You've Deleted the page for [The Biogerontology Research Foundation] citing copyright violation We do not know how to edit Wikipedia and apologize for this post if it violates any of the policies. The page was deleted citing copyright violation. The Foundation is a registered UK charity supporting aging research worldwide and acting as a think tank. It regularly supports conferences and research supported by the foundation was featured in Cell, PLoS and other journals. Please reconsider. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot accept material that belongs to another website. It violates copyright law. See WP:Copyright violations.
If you own the material and wish to contribute it to Wikipedia, please follow the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:01, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review for Muhammad Agung Pribadi

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Muhammad Agung Pribadi. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MbahGondrong (talkcontribs) 17:02, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification, but I don't have anything to say. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:03, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Hindu Nationalism

Hi there! Since you're an admin so could you please, check the claim by an editor User:Linguisticgeek that the template Hindu Nationalism is a duplicate of template Sangh Parivar? Thanks, --Benfold (talk) 13:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Benfold. While there appears to be a great deal of overlap between the two templates, they are not exact duplicates of one another. You might want to consider merging them, or clarifying how they differ from one another.
Also, please do not edit war over a speedy deletion tag. Instead, explain your viewpoint on the template's Talk page. An administrator will review the Talk page before considering speedy deletion. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:10, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I didn't see any deletion contest message in the tag and it also mention that the template will be automatically deleted if remain for 7 days so i rushed. Anyways, i'm sorry for that and already apologized to the user with whom i was involved. Thanks once again. --Benfold (talk) 04:10, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

I regret to inform you that has, in your words, "purposefully and blatantly harass[ed]" me [purposefully and blatantly harass on my user talk page] once again. --GHcool (talk) 00:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. The IP has been blocked. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:03, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Helfer's book

Regarding Malcolm X: The "style" of a book should not necessarily be an impediment to it being a reliable source. The publisher is MacMillan, according to this page. MacMillan should be a good publisher so Helfer's book should be treated as an RS. Also, I'm sure this information is also available in other sources. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

  • In Wolfenstein (E. Victor Wolfenstein, The Victims of Democracy: Malcolm X and the Black Revolution), p. 197 it talks about how "Sophia" and her sister assisted the scheme and it discusses the planning involved. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:45, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


Erm, about this edit, "Reception" refers to both praise and criticism, from the public and from other reviewers/figures. IMO it's a far better title. Usually the best articles don't segregate criticism into a single section, but instead mix it throughout the article. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:59, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but in this article it's a criticism section. The book's reception included a Pulitzer prize. When you add positive reviews of the book and discussion of its awards, it might be appropriate to rename the section. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:02, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure such sections in film articles have the same title "reception" even if the reception to the said film was overwhelmingly poor. This isn't an FA, but consider Baby_Geniuses#Reception. Baby Geniuses had an overwhelmingly negative reception, and yet the article has this title. For that matter, Malik, I just found that the editor in chief of The Root liked the book, and while I haven't found a review from him, he declined to publish a negative review of the book. This was apparent in the title of one of the articles being cited. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:09, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
My point isn't that the book's reception was negative, but that the selection of what to put in that section has been. Titling it "Reception" gives undue weight to a few critics and ignores the overwhelming critical consensus that Marable had written a very good historical work. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
In that case the voices of the critics who believe he wrote a very good historical work, and those of the critics who believe that it wasn't a good book need to be put together in the same section. I'm fleshing out the detail on what Gates said about the book. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:15, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you :) - In fact I found the WaPo summarized things saying that most reviews were "far more positive than Evanzz's" WhisperToMe (talk) 22:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
No, thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Page Editing Request --Update

Dear Malik:

Thanks for making the changes to the Sharpton bio.

Dear Malik:

I am new to Wiki-editing and requesting changes be made to the [[3]] wiki page. I have formally requested a semi-protected edit on the Sharpton page and have written the changes to be made with well documented sources.

See: [[4]]

I am sure the public would appreciate and benefit from the full facts coming to life.

Megalisten (talk) 13:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Using book reviews to help guide Wikipedia editors

One trick that might help is to make note of what book reviews say, and then post it in the talk page on that book. As an example, see: Talk:Deng Xiaoping and the Making of Modern China - By noting the nuances about the book, and the claims that reviewers think are valid or invalid, it can help Wikipedians better utilize that source WhisperToMe (talk) 00:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

That's a good idea. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:12, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

About GabeMc

About me harassing this user? He's the one who's been harassing me around Wikipedia, also bad mouthing me too. He's been passive aggressively bullying me for a long time. I've been nice to him before now and I explained that I'm a newbie to being a Wikipedia editor, yet he's displayed hostility toward me. Hope we can settle this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeddman123 (talkcontribs) 21:16, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

He has asked you repeatedly not to post on his Talk page. Please respect his wishes.
If you feel he's been harassing you, please indicate where and I'll look into it. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:20, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
  • This is one of the same Beatles sock/trolls from last summer, IMO. E.g., User:Plant's Strider, User:GeezerB, User:Chowkatsun9‎ et al. They won't be able to point you to any diffs where I was even rude to them. This is a regurgitation of the same false claims that this "person" made last summer. I wouldn't waste too much time with them Malik, since time-wasting is really the only reason they are here and if I am correct, then they will not stop until this account is indeffed anyway. I'm pretty sure I know who this is, but the only connection that will be made will be to Plant's Strider, if anybody. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 21:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh my God, PLEASE leave me alone, I'm not a sock account and I have NO idea what you're talking about, I'm completely new here. What can I do to get you off my back? You're really starting to irritate me. Also ironically your page says that you're against cyber bullying, when you're doing it to me? Please for the last time leave me alone, I never want to speak to you again. You're also just jumping to conclusions without any evidence. Don't think you can throw your weight around because you've made many contributions to Wikipedia articles. You sir ARE in fact more of a bully than you make me out to be. Now again, please provide some evidence that I'm some "sock" account of kindly drop this silly argument. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeddman123 (talkcontribs) 22:25, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Category deleted

Hi Shabaz, you have deleted the category 2nd-century BC Hindu temples. I realised this while adding this category to an ancient temple. Could you restore the category, as it is no longer empty. -Ambar (talk) 19:04, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:27, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Help in restoring a deleted page

Dear Malik, Assalamu Alaikkum

I am a novice in Wiki world. i had created a few articles and one of my article on ACE College of Engineering got deleted. I am confused on how to go further. I couldn't understand the related docs on AfD and Speedy Deletion. I request you kind help as an experience Wiki patron to guide me restore the page.

Afzal (talk) 18:41, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Afzal. In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a subject must be "notable". Please see WP:CORP, the relevant notability guideline.
The consensus among the editors who commented at the article's deletion discussion was that ACE College of Engineering doesn't satisfy WP:CORP and therefore doesn't qualify for a Wikipedia article. If you believe ACE College of Engineering satisfies WP:CORP, please let me know and we can discuss the steps you can take to try to have the article restored. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Malik,

Thank you for your quick reply. I have verifiable recognition references and other secondary resources as proof of validity and notability. Please let me know what I have to do to get back the deleted page. Thanks Again

Afzal (talk) 00:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

These are reliable sources that weren't already in the article when it was discussed at the AfD discussion? Why didn't you add them to the article then? Why didn't you participate in the deletion discussion? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 00:59, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Honestly I didn't know how to participate in a deletion discussion. I added the verifiable references and then I had written to the talk page of the some of the people in the discussion. After 2 days, instead of the deletion discussion in talk page, I saw a Indian School stub and College stub content. So I thought the discussion went in favor of me. Still I had the AfD tag in the page. What Can I do now?

This is a new learning for me. Afzal (talk) 06:23, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

You can try to argue for restoring the article at WP:Deletion review. Ordinarily WP:Deletion review is used "if significant new information has come to light since a deletion that would justify recreating the deleted page". The problem here is that this isn't "new information". — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Conservative judaism

Thanks for your help, Malik shabazz. I am still a novice. Ramah1947. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramah1947 (talkcontribs) 15:11, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Face-smile.svg — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:30, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


I was having real trouble locating the right template!! Buckshot06 (talk) 03:51, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Bates Wikipedia Page Deletion

Hi Malik Shabazz,

I hope this finds you well.

I'm posting with regards to the deletion of page "Christopher Bates".

You wrote that the reason for deletion is because of G11, it read as an advertising or promotion page? If you don't mind, can you please explain what exactly I posted read as a promotion or advertising? I wanted to create a page on behalf of Christopher Bates (like the wiki page for any designer and artists) about his career and who he is. He is a menswear designer in Toronto.

I look forward to your response.

Best, Changwo4 (talk) 03:55, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi. To write a Wikipedia article, you should summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about a subject. The article you wrote about Mr. Bates looked like advertising copy, and it wasn't based on reliable sources. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 18:55, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi Malik hope you are well! I am the publicist for [Kryoman] and wanted to ask why you deleted his page. Very confused by this. Can you please contact me at Thanks for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


I understand the guidelines very well, and wasn't trying to advertise "Infracritical". I took out any references to the company name, and have made the reference more generic, referring to a quarterly report provided by DHS. The project (Project SHINE) is a non-profit research project that we have done, in cooperation with DHS ICS-CERT. I think that that information does deserve some pointing out; hopefully, you won't have any issues with the revision. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infracritical (talkcontribs) 21:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I deleted your User page because it was promotional. Your latest edits to Shodan (website) seem to be okay. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Model Aeronautical Association of Australia page


I was hoping you could restore my newly created page Model Aeronautical Association of Australia.

I started work on the page last night and didn't get to finish it, because I was tired and went to bed.

Overnight it would seem that you have deleted the page because in your opinion it is not worthy of being on Wikipedia

Ther are many other associations around the world that are significant in the sport/hobby of model airplane building nd flying, and they have a Wikipedia page, so why not the MAAA?

The MAAA has a proud history since aero modelling began, and many people are interested in knowing its history, origins, and other information. I have written several articles now related to model airplanes, engines, engine builders and the like, and I believe the MAAA is an important story that is worthy of mentioning on Wikipedia

I dispute the fact that this page should have been speedy deleted and I would like this case to be reviewed by a more senior person than yourself please.

Regards Warren Leadbeatter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrenlead (talkcontribs) 23:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, an organization must be "notable". Please see WP:ORG, the relevant notability guideline.
If the Model Aeronautical Association of Australia satisfies the notability criteria—specifically, if reliable sources have written about it—please add that information to the article to prevent it from being deleted again. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Warren Leadbeatter, I see you have recreated the article. I trust this time you will ensure that the contents of the article demonstrate sufficient notability, are backed up by suitable references and are not directly copied out of external links. Also, please don't use words like "ignorant" when referring to the editor who nominated the old article for speedy deletion. My nomination at the time was entirely in line with WP:CSD. Regards, --Forward Unto Dawn 07:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

[Marnismo: Luminosidad del color del oleo]

Dear Malik Shabazz,

I am a novice in Wiki world. I have been trying to publish this writing on Wiki and have been unsuccessful at it. If you could help me and guide me a little here, I would appreciate it. My problem I think is that while I wrote the article on my own and based on my knowledge of the artist and her work I think you see it as though I am doing it for advertisement purposes while I am trying to make it for informational purposes. The Artist is redesigning her website so the concept of Marnismo and Luminosity, etc., does not appear on her website and will be explained on wiki only (would this way be better??), But in the mean time can you tell me what should I do to be able to publish my writing on Wiki and make it available now? or should I wait until the artist redesigns her website. Please help me; I need your guidance at this point. Thank you very much for your time... (talk) 02:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi. First, to write an article for English-language Wikipedia, you should write it in English. To write a Wikipedia article, you should summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about a subject. Please read WP:Identifying reliable sources to get a sense of the types of sources that Wikipedia considers to be reliable. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:25, 28 July 2013 (UTC)


Why do you keep promoting the idea that anarchism is compatible with capitalism? All the serious research, that is the material not coming from reactionary think tanks, says that they are incompatible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delirium of disorder (talkcontribs) 03:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not promoting anything. By going from article to article changing "anarcho-capitalist" to "capitalist", you're being disruptive, and if you keep it up you will be blocked. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:20, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
How is deleting/correcting self-contradictory phrases something you think warrants blocking? Delirium of disorder (talk) 03:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Please read WP:POINT. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The 404 Show

I saw you deleted The 404 Show. The author requested, in the text of the article, a private way to edit it. Would you consider userfying it for them? Thank you. — Pseudonymous Rex (talk) 04:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Or nevermind. I see there's some version of the article they found at User:BlueCottonCandy/The 404 podcast. Sorry for bothering you. — Pseudonymous Rex (talk) 04:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
They also created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The 404 Show. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:36, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Hollywood High School

Would you please keep an eye on Hollywood High School? In routine pending changes review, I have now twice reverted a pretty substantial IP change. IP editor has not provided edit summaries nor explained rationale on talk page. If IP editor does it again, and I revert, I violate 3PP, and I don't really want to do that. (I don't care much about the page; I was doing this administratively.) Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I'll add it to my Watchlist. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:36, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Alex Zhavoronkov

Malik, first off full disclosure, I have a COI on this article. That said, I do not believe it qualifies as a G12 candidate. G12 is for unambiguous copyright infringement where there is no salvageable content. That's not the case here, only the first two sentences appear to be closely paraphrased. Further, G12 states "For equivocal cases...where there is only partial infringement or close paraphrasing...the article or the appropriate section should be blanked." Huon has already fixed the close paraphrasing with this edit after the G12 nomination and the article could be further improved further with more editing; not deletion. The copyvio revisions could easily be revdel'd. The article contains at least 2 third party independent citations and meets GNG. Please restore the article.--v/r - TP 14:40, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Restored. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for that; I should have left a note when I tried to fix the issue, but I wasn't entirely happy with my own result and thus didn't want to remove the speedy tag myself. Huon (talk) 02:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you.--v/r - TP 18:17, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
On your edit summary, close paraphrasing is enough for a G12 if there is no other salvageable content or the edit history is too messed up to be repaired by other means. In this case, the close paraphrasing could be rewritten or blanked. Thanks again.--v/r - TP 18:35, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Lebanon borders Occcupied Palestine

hello! I've substituted Israel with "Occupied Palestine" in Lebanon's article since Lebanon does not recognize Israel. Thus, officialy, It borders Occupied Palestine to the South. Best Regards, Sadir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadeer11 (talkcontribs) 13:20, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Keep it up and you will soon be blocked. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)


I have waited for over a year to be adopted, but to no avail. I have been getting into many confrontations, due to my often hot headed nature which I hope and want to rectify. What else can I do?Evildoer187 (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Did you reply to this message? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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German astronom: Nicolaus Copernicus

For american and british guys: Nicolaus Copernicus is from German descent ! He lived in Thorn (a polish city today), but he is from German descent ! (talk) 15:32, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


I am not entirely sure what to do about this user. He is currently engaging in edit wars on a number of articles, refusing to discuss or even listen to what other editors have to say. Most of his contributions were arbitrary deletions of information, posting unsourced content, and more often than not, it borders on vandalism. His editing habits can be observed here:

Thank you

Evildoer187 (talk) 21:09, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

I left a message for Scythian77 about their recent edit warring. I left you a similar message. If necessary, seek assistance at WP:Dispute resolution. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


I see in the mainspace edit history two edits, the creation of the redirect in 2010, and a salting in 2013.  The article does not show a history of being re-created, but the edit comment for the salting says, "Repeated recreation of deleted page".  Why is the page salted?  Note that this discussion will be linked from Wikipedia talk:Article Incubator/ITablet.  Thank you, Unscintillating (talk) 02:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

According to the deletion log, the page was deleted on February 10, 2007; again on September 25, 2010; and a third time on May 1, 2013. That's why the page was salted. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:31, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of articles of User:Europefan

So if you go this way, you can delete many, many articles over Germany, Europe and have a lot of work to do. Maybe you will have than no or less informations more over Europe article and Germany. I wrote and started more than thousand articles over Europe and Germany on English Wikipedia.

The backround of the attacks against User:Europefan is, that people like User:Bratland are extrem Germany bashing people on english Wikipedia.

best regards from Germany and it's your own choice to delete all articles over Germany (talk) 15:14, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

I think admins like you make a big mistake if they delete articlies like Marc Bator (a famous German journalist) or Hildegard Krekel (a famous German actress). But if it is your will, to hurt English Wikipedia, so it should be. I only write as German speaking author articles and have no interest or enough time to talk and fight over tricks in English Wikipedia.

In anderen Worten gesagt: du und andere Admins schadet der Englischen Wikipedia, wenn Ihr solche Artikel wie über Hildegard Krekel, eine bekannte kürzlich verstorbene deutsche Schauspielerin, und Marc Bator, einem bekannten deutschen Journalisten, löscht. Aber mir ist das letztlich piepegal, wenn Ihr so in der englischen Wikipedia mit relevanten Artikeln umgeht. Denn eines ist gewiss, Ihr, werdet so schnell keine englischen Artikel zu diesen relevanten Personen wiederbekommen. Und so machst du halt genau das Gegenteil von dem, was ein guter Admin machen sollte. (talk) 18:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Requesting free content

Hi Malik, I followed the standard procedure as it is described in WP:REQFREE and requested Franz Gastler to send his image. I asked him to include the creative commons licensing statement. He sent me the image, but Commons OTRS won't accept the "agreement". They want the copyright holder to fill out Commons:Template:Email templates/Consent/en. If this is how things should be, then why we have WP:REQFREE? I'm really confused, please help me out. Regards. — Bill william comptonTalk 17:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bill. It appears Wikimedia's rules have moved on and the essay hasn't kept pace. I'm sorry if the essay gave you incorrect information. I'll put a warning on the essay that it may contain out-of-date information. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:37, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Merci pour ces éclaircissements. — Bill william comptonTalk 01:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


What was wrong/disruptive about my edits that you had to revert so many of them? I don't mean to be any trouble but I literally don't understand. Thank you. Dante8 (talk) 23:31, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Your edits frequently remove words ("college" or "women", for example) from elsewhere in the article. Please use the "Preview" button before you save your changes. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:40, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Just happened across this via History of atheism. Malik, you undid the addition of a citation, extra info about the monument, a picture ... and 1 instance of a word accidentally removed. I would urge you to take a closer look before bulk reverting -- in this case it made for a worse article whereas you could just add the word "home" back in. If I am missing something, I apologize. Just leaving this message as someone who has fallen into hastily over-reverting myself. --Rhododendrites (talk) 02:12, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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Deletion of Biogerontology Research Foundation

I see you recently deleted the page Biogerontology Research Foundation because of copyright infringement. Can I ask which copyrights were infringed upon? --Henry Stanley (talk) 12:42, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

The page was largely copied and pasted from here. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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This is a courtesy notice that an article in which you were involved as an administrator is being discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/ITablet (2nd nomination)Unscintillating (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Gary Llama

I blanked the article I was working on, to try and redo it, but it was deleterd, Can it be brought back? It was the article on producer 'Gary Llama'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patchad920 (talkcontribs) 11:56, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


i mentioned you here. you may go there to defend yourself. thank you.--22 Male Cali (talk) 06:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for all you do, namely that deletion. Go Phightins! 03:07, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Speedy deletion declined: Category:Article Feedback Additional Articles

Thanks for your note. It was equivalent to being empty as it's a system category and it has been removed from the software, but fair enough – I have now been less lazy and made the request properly. --Nemo 05:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:13, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


... for moving Fordyce spots. Much appreciated, Lesion (talk) 01:38, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:48, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Arkan, Ontario

I did read your page on deleting articles and I wanted to leave a message about Arkan, Ontario Although fictional, it exists in the world of our youtube community of NerdyAndQuirky as her "hometown". The most recent mention was in the video that was posted today, August 24, 2013 [1]. Although that this is one link that does not include all the information that was placed on the page, it verifies some of the facts. I just wanted to say that there are many pages dedicated to fictional towns and this just another one. Okay, that's all of your time I'll be taking up. It was worth a try anyway! JChowABC (talk) 02:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Joshua

Hi Joshua. In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a subject—even a fictional subject—must be "notable". Please see WP:N, our notability guideline. Being the setting of your YouTube community does not make Arkan notable. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:38, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Royal Mail Choir

This is my first ever article so I expected mistakes.

The reasons given (as far as I remember them) were unambiguous advertising or promotion. We are a charity choir made up from employees of the Royal Mail so I can't really avoid the name but did not promote the company or it's products, we do perform away from Royal Mail functions but the article is about the formation of four company choirs.

If you ever form a Wikipedia choir you'd understand. And if you do let us know and we'll give you a few tips.

We are a charity choir of amateur singers formed for a BBC television series. I explained the process of the series and mention some events and ratings but did not seek to promote the BBC or any of its programmes as it is unavailable on DVD. Which I also mention. There is a YouTube link to a download but this is only a promotional one not the actual download which again is for the cancer charity. There is also a link to the Facebook page which is used to contact us for booking the choir for fund-raising events. The other link is for the website of our musical director who also works for free. There are places we have sang and places we are going to sing. The names of the choir members and that's about it really.

So I'm a bit stuck here. I want to place an article about a company choir that were formed from a TV series and now fund raise for a cancer charity.

If you could pass this over for editing or if possible provide a few tips on how I can move things about so it can be published I would be grateful.

(how comes the Goodyear blimp got on then?)

JTKKavanagh (talk) 09:50, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

The best way to write a Wikipedia article is to summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about the subject. Please read WP:Identifying reliable sources to get a sense of what types of sources are considered reliable on Wikipedia. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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Page move

Can you do me a favor and move List of Wander Over Yonder episodes& to List of Wander Over Yonder episodes. Thanks Koala15 (talk) 23:15, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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I went to block the IP vandal, but you'd beaten me. LadyofShalott 03:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

FYI, I removed talk page access for his latest comment to me there (which I also deleted, but it's still in the history at this point). LadyofShalott 03:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
No problem. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:19, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Niggers in the White House

Hi Malik. I was trying to leave a comment on this article's talk page about an edit I made that was reverted. However, while the article exists, the talk page appears to be salted. I know you've worked with some of these controversial titles in the past. Can you create a talk page for this article so I can explain my edits? Best, Joefromrandb (talk) 19:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello Joefromrandb. I noticed this request and it seems reasonable to me; I have created the talk page based on it. Cheers. :) John Cline (talk) 19:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Joefromrandb (talk) 19:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Wow, when I saw those words as a new section, I almost hit rollback immediately, as it sounded like abusive trolling. If I hadn't recognized your name, Joe, I would have rolled back, and then looked to see what the rest of it said. As it is, I find the article is about an interesting, if disturbing (though unsurprising given the date), topic. LadyofShalott 19:36, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Thanks for taking care of this. What a quaint little poem. Face-smile.svg — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:48, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Deleting redirects in order to move articles

Hi Malik. I see you declined the speedy deletion of the redirects for Damat Ferit Pasha and Ahmet Izzet Pasha. Why? These aren't controversial moves; if you check the Turkish version of the articles, they are spelled with a "t" (DamaT, FeriT, and AhmeT). Since the articles are based on Turkish people, and there is no other English reason to keep their spellings with a "d", why would you consider those to be controversial edits? I'm working to clean up a lot of misspellings and unencyclopedic language in Turkish-related articles, and these are pretty strange outliers. I'm Turkish myself, and I assure you, there's no reason the correct spellings should redirect to the incorrect ones instead of vice versa.

Thank you,


06:48, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

This is English-language Wikipedia, and as a general rule we use the most common English spelling of names. See WP:Naming conventions (use English). In both cases, there have been move discussions in the past that resulted in the current spellings. If you'd like to change the name of either article, please follow the instructions at WP:Requested moves#Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC)