User talk:Malik Shabazz/Archive 7

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Are you back already???

אל תשליכיני מלפניך

Just saying thanks...

...for all your diligence at List of African-American firsts. I've been away awhile and haven't been able to pitch in. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving. With respect and regards, -- Tenebrae (talk) 20:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Freedom on My Mind

Malik, why did you delete the external link to the film Freedom on My Mind from the article Freedom Summer? That's an excellent documentary about the Mississippi Summer Project. Great footage of Bob Moses, Ida Mae Holland, and many others. Clay Carson has good things to say about it. So why delete it? Dwalls (talk) 04:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Malik. I wondered if it weren't some variety of "spamming" question. In this case I would make an exception. I've used the film in classes I've taught on the Civil Rights Movement, and it makes a powerful impact. I've talked about it with several veterans of SNCC and Freedom Summer, and all praise the film. Probably the best video available on the topic. With your agreement, I'll put it back. And copy our discussion to the talk page of the article. Dwalls (talk) 05:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

well well

now i'm away, in the states for a few days. anyway, I understand that chaim walkin need to be rated, or something like that. if you got a minute, please rate it and let me know if it's for sure not going to be deleted again. thanks a million. Shabat Shalom. --Korach (talk) 04:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Massena blood libel

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DYKBot (talk) 09:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Tobias Geffen

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DYKBot (talk) 16:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

gush shalom is left wing

there is nothing to debate about this.Majority support that and there are more than enough reliable sources about this.You should respect that.

You must not force your opinion on the article.It is a left wing and you can ask every Israeli about this. In fact in Israel it is radical left wing but I wont insist about this.In any case it will be mention as left wing because it is and there are reliable sources to support this.16 sources.People wont make joke.Removing sourced line from wikipedia is vandalism. We you bring a real argument why it should not then we will discuss about this.You have yet to bring such.

Also remember WP:3RR.Oren.tal (talk) 20:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Image:JPS 1917.png

Thanks for finding a free cover so fast. I did expect to find a free content one, either by me or by someone else, but not THAT fast. Garion96 (talk) 21:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Snowballing References

Thanks for coming up with those references. I think consensus is that the article satisfies WP:NOTE now, so I've withdrawn my AfD nomination and closed the discussion per speedy keep rules. MrNerdHair (talk) 00:58, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

"Joke edits"?

I've been a longtime Wikipedia contributor and I'm fully aware of its function. I felt that Eric Holder's emergence into pop culture was noteworthy, and so I added a short paragraph on it. Sorry if you disagree. --Kudzu1 (talk) 23:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Main Synagogue of Barcelona

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DYKBot (talk) 14:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


Abie --Korach (talk) 16:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

James Mercer Langston/ Should be John Mercer Langston

Aha! I found a great source, Leon F. Litwack and August Meier, eds., "John Mercer Langston: Principle and Politics", in Black Leaders of the Nineteenth Century, University of Illinois Press, 1991. You can get to preview some of it on Google Books. There's a whole long article on James M. Langston, with info about his brother Charles Howard Langston (Langston Hughes' grandfather), their parents, their education. JM Langston was the real political animal and was also active in national Reconstruction politics, but they may both deserve articles, if I can find more info. I probably got carried away in terms of writing about them in the article on Langston Hughes, but if I manage to create new separate articles for the Langstons, I'll reduce that portion.--Parkwells (talk) 00:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Signing again because of changes above ---Parkwells (talk) 14:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

See Oberlin-Wellington Rescue, too. I will be using some of its sources for an article on Charles Langston.--Parkwells (talk) 16:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Too much time on Wikipedia! His name is John Mercer Langston, and there was already an article about him. Jumping back and forth and looking (but not seeing) too many names.--Parkwells (talk) 18:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The other Malik Shabazz

I was just re-reading some excerpts I'd posted at Talk:Lyndon LaRouche#"Fascism" citations, and saw a name that looked familiar. I came by to ask if it was the same person and I see from your user page that it's a shared coincidence. Anyway, I thought I'd say hi while I was here. I keep seeing you do good work around Wikipedia. Thanks for contributing. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Hello Malik Shabazz:

My name is Jillian Weedmark - and I really would like to see the sucess of the definition "Sheening". This is my dream child and I would greatly appreciate you help in making the (yes slang, but still ligit) definition be a success.

Please help me if you can by responcing to my talk page - or to

I look forward to your help.

JAW JillianAWeedmark (talk) 04:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

In responce:

Myself and one other are spinning our wheels trying to pull our resources together. One can only imagine what the word "Ketchup" had to go through before someone finally thought - what a catchy word!

JillianAWeedmark (talk) 05:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

!POST HASTE! Thanks for the responce: We both understand that it's not a matter of life and death. But when you want something to be a sucess -- well you just don't sit back and watch it fall at your feet. We're looking for external links - and I'm about to address the additional critiques that you said you were going to add to the main page. Thanks for your time!! And I feel safe to say support,

JillianAWeedmark (talk) 05:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


Er, could you explain what this means. First? what category? what does the slash accomplish?Historicist (talk) 20:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for I Ain't Marching Anymore (song)

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BorgQueen (talk) 12:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

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'Blood Libel'

wasn't the whole point of the 'Blood Libel' on naming 'raid' rather than 'massacre'? As the book was about nomenclature surely the emphasis of the book be stressed? ...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 10:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

sorry I don't see them as scare quotes, just as emphasis...I'm not warring over that article (that article is just not worth going to war) I merely pop through it every once in a while and shake my head at it...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 19:18, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

List of African American neighborhoods

I've added a tag to this article questioning its accuracy. Also, I'm inviting comment on its discussion page, perhaps following along the lines of a couple comments you made in edit summaries. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 03:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


I looked over your userboxes, and you seen like a great guy. Nice to be of your acquaintance. I will be borrowing a few of your excellent userboxes now. :P Zazaban (talk) 02:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: Multiracial edit warring

The main changes that I've been making to the article is to decrease the size of the ridiculously large image that Dr Carebear insists on placing in several articles. It's true that I reverted the IP changing "race mixing" to "admixing"; I've never heard the latter term, and asked the IP to provide a source stating that it's the more commonly used term. Finally, please do not template the regulars; I'm perfectly aware of how many reverts I've been making on the page, and don't really appreciate your pseudo-reprimand. GlassCobra 03:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


Sorry. Pandyu (talk) 19:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Bwatue

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Cirt (talk) 21:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Outside of a Small Circle of Friends

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BorgQueen (talk) 17:26, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Malik

Happy New Year! Hope it's off to a good start. -- Tenebrae (talk) 01:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Stereotypes of Jews

Please weigh in here.[1] Thanks. deeceevoice (talk) 16:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Malik, for your reasoned support -- and happy new year! :) deeceevoice (talk) 14:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Stereotypes of Jews

I did. It is now at ANI.Die4Dixie (talk) 08:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Malik Shabazz was inducted into The Hall of The Greats

On January 4, 2009, User:Malik Shabazz was inducted into

The Hall of The Greats

This portrait of Melvin Van Peebles was dedicated in his honor.
David Shankbone.

Phil Ochs

Just wanted to drop a line thanking you for your terrific work on the Phil Ochs songs category. He really was a gifted songwriter, and your articles capture what makes him good.--Idols of Mud (talk) 14:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


You may want to weigh in here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stereotypes of white people deeceevoice (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Lightmouse date scripts

Collaboration in Poland during WWII

Do you assume that you know more about history of my homeland than I do ? If so, if you were caught on the street, put into concentration camp then sent to work for some German 600 miles away from you house, fed with 1/4 rations and forced to work hours not being certain of when you will be shot, or if you try to escape, your family will be murdered, would you call yourself a collaborator ?

Would you Malik ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

You are attempting to REVISE history, not my corrections. Please refrain from doing so or admit bias. Forced laborers were not collaborators. (talk) 04:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

AA in US

Please comment: —Preceding unsigned comment added by RafaelRGarcia (talkcontribs) 06:19, January 13, 2009


First of all, if I put the material in then obviously there is not a conensus. Besides that, I'm not the only one how has put it back in. For example:

So your argument about "consensus" is ridiculous and moot. Costho (talk) 18:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Southernization (US)

Hi, Malik. Are you an administrator? This article is being frequently vandalized/edited to delete sourced material assessing the effects of the Obama election and suggesting it represents a decline in Southernization. Do you think it should be protected? Many editors are watching it, but...--Parkwells (talk) 21:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. There seem to be enough editors protecting the content, so maybe it's not necessay - just annoying to see that some can't accept reality.--Parkwells (talk) 22:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Porn

Could you add your thoughts to this please? Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 04:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

new york times crossword puzzle link

oops! guess I should check the link before slapping it in an article huh? I actually moved that from the Crosswordese article. Anyway, thanks for fixing that. OlEnglish (talk) 04:33, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Racial epithets

You're kidding... what on earth would make you think that a discussion about them could get "venomous"? ;-)
Seriously, though, thank you for the input. arimareiji (talk) 06:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow... just surfed through your fan mail, and I see why you would believe that. I think you must be doing something right to have that many idiots hating you. arimareiji (talk) 07:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

thanks for the suggestion

you are obviously highly respected and i appreciate your getting involved here. he would never have accepted that without you, as he seems to object to me personally. not sure how i made an enemy so quickly, i could benefit from following your example and disengaging from venomous disputes.Untwirl (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

you are right, of course. i was just asking myself, "why does he insist on getting the last word?" and then i asked myself - "why do you?" i take the bait a little too easily sometimes. thanks for the advice. Untwirl (talk) 20:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

copied fr arimareiji 's talk page

i quit. i promise. even if it means i dont get the last word (grrr)  ;) will one of you replace the lead cause i am too involved (understatement) :) Untwirl (talk) 20:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Crazy edit war at Anarchism

I think it might be getting to the point of leaving a note at WP:ANB. I've also also half a mind to list it at WP:LAME, but I won't yet. Zazaban (talk) 05:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

References on the Jew article

Good work in referencing much of the unreferenced text in the Jew article! Jayjg (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Addition to sidebars

Hello. I noticed you added the First Black President to the sidebars under Political Movements. Wouldn't it be a better fit under the History header? -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 00:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Thanks. -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 14:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009, Leon Feldhandler, Sobibor

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Leon Feldhandler. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. — (talk) 05:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The Concert for Bangladesh

When I tried to move the page to one with the title shown above, the one you recommended, it did not let me do so, saying there was a conflict with another page. Several more times did I try to re-submit it with that name, but it told me the same thing every time. I figured the best choice after that we be to designate the album under the name of the artist who concieved the idea for the concert. If you have been able to move the page with that name attached, I congratulate and thank you, and I look forward to working with you on other pages in the future.Krobertj (talk) 00:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


Hiya - yeah, sure we can put it back in that section - I only removed it because it was repeated verbatim in Legacy which didn't make sense to me. But sure, we can put it back into that time period which does make more sense. About GA/FA - I'll email you with some thoughts. Best Tvoz/talk 20:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Barcelona synagogue

I answered on the talk page of the article. There are a number fo difficulties, as you will see. But I thank you for understanding that I was making a good faith effort to improve the accuracy of the title.Historicist (talk) 14:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Opinion requested

Can you comment on this one[[2]] when you get a chance. Thanks--Jacurek (talk) 21:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


Could you please comment here (and then look at the main article and check the translation please)? Please? You can view it as a content mater (in this case Hebrew etymology) or a policy mattter (NOR). Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 21:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Andrew W. Cooper

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Dravecky (talk) 19:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The War Is Over (song)

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Dravecky (talk) 07:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Leon Feldhendler

Thanks for that. It's very gratifying to hash out a collaborative compromise and have other editors approve of the result. --Rrburke(talk) 22:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Phil and Spiro

Hi - I'm not at home so can't check my Schumacher/Eliot at the moment, but are you sure the sequence was "speeches of the Spiro" to "speeches of the President"? My recollection is that the original Mississippi lyrics were "speeches of the Governor" which Phil changed to "speeches of the President" when he came out with "Here's to the state of Richard Nixon", and then some time afterward updated it to "speeches of the Spiro" when performed in concert, but not "officially" written that way. You have it as going from Spiro to President - but I don't think that's right. I'll check sources too when I'm back home, but thought you might have the books handy (not that they are completely accurate, by the way). Tvoz/talk 00:01, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I have to think back and check a little. This sounded wrong to me, but I'm not sure. As for the copyediting - uch easier now that the article is in such better shape. Thanks for all of your good work on it. Tvoz/talk 05:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

thank you

Thank you for changing the "i.e." to "e.g." I did not understand the difference. (talk) 07:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

GA on Hold

No need to scan! I will explain on review. Cheers! Ling.Nut (talkWP:3IAR) 03:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Good luck with future efforts! And please do read comments on the review about copying from Wikipedia & about watermarks. Later, Ling.Nut (talkWP:3IAR) 04:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations, and thank you, for all of your work to bring the Berkman article to GA status. According to the Wikipedia article traffic statistics website, the article is very lightly visited at present, but being the top entry under a Google search, I'm hoping interest will pick up soon and draw more attention to this man. Again, thank you. --Cast (talk) 05:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Malcolm Schosha

...has evidently chased Untwirl to Rachel Corrie; your advice on how to deal with the matter would be appreciated. arimareiji (talk) 17:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd figured that you had much more experience and skill than I in how to handle tendentiousness, and his behaviour, diplomatically. Probably the best thing to do for now is to wait and watch, as your note seems to suggest. Thank you for the advice. arimareiji (talk) 18:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Who's African American

Hi Malik. I just don't understand how that's off topic and the information about Henry Gates isn't when it's been proven that those estimates are off from numerous geneticists, universities, and historians. That's all. I don't have a problem with it being there, but should there be something in contrast showing that it's been proven wrong. Have a good day.Mcelite (talk) 18:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Antisemitism, self-hatin' Jew

(Crossposted to the SHJ article. Dont edit this user subpage)

"Malik," you removed the antisemitism template from self-hating Jew and the latter link from template:antisemitism. Your reasons were that the first was "OR" and that the second was "an epithet." You need to explain your revert in more detail. How is it "OR?" How is it that you say this "epithet" is unrelated to antisemitism, such that it should be de-linked? (Note: in your revert, you undid some links I made in the article).

The accusation of being a "self-hating Jew" is related to the concept of calling a Jew an "anti-Semite," isn't it? I know of at least one person who's dealt with this accusation - not just that he was a self-hater, but that he was actually antisemitic. In fact, "self-hating Jew" carries two antisemitic dimensions. The first is as above; the connotation of being "against the Jews" (and G-d, who isn't these days?). The second is the fact that it is an attack against particular Jews - an antisemitic attack. Take recent attacks against JATO for example - entirely antisemitic, albeit not in accord with a pro-Israel definition, but with an "attack on Jews" definition.

The article intro, though poorly written, makes it clear that these are the two dimensions to the concept: "It has been termed by some of its recipients as "[an accusation] of anti-Semitism"; being "pathologised" for "contradict[ing] the Zionist claim to speak for all Jews everywhere." Those who use the term have equated it with "anti-Semitism"'. So, yes, its an "epithet." But so is "antisemite". Regardless of whether its true or not, its used as an ephithet.

So it bears mentioning in the topicbox, and likewise the topicbox should belong on the article. -Stevertigo 09:02, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

i agree with you here. i actually tried to use that wording in the lead "term used as an epithet . . ." but there were certain edit warriors who disagreed and kept that information out. unless malik has a reasonable argument for its exclusion, i support the antisemitism template. Untwirl (talk) 18:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

steve, my response only saved to your userpage, not the article talk. not sure how to fix this . . .Untwirl (talk) 18:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It appears you subst'd it here. I appreciate your considered response. And, while I'm at it, thank you in advance for your future input on controversial issues. Best, -Stevertigo 20:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Rosa Luxemburg & Bayard Rustin

DYK for There but for Fortune (song)

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--Dravecky (talk) 08:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


In any event, eáqnov is the Greek word ethnos. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 20:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

"Ethnos" is a Greek word. I'd have thought eáqnov was merely an attempted transliteration or transcription of that Greek word:
(I don't know how to do the "final sigma" character in TeX.) "eáqnov" isn't written in Greek letters at all. What's going on? Is "eáqnov" supposed to be a transliteration or is it an unsuccessful attempt at rendering Greek letters? Michael Hardy (talk) 18:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Opinion requested.

[[3]] When you get a chance of course. No rush. Thanks--Jacurek (talk) 04:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for your comments--Jacurek (talk) 07:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


WP:PORNBIO, the basis on which you proposed the article for deletion, is meant for Porno actors not movies. Also,I can't find any other videos with Francesca Le starring in it, so please remove the deletion tag. --Bziona86 (talk) 11:01, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mule Bone

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Gatoclass (talk) 11:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Could you please revert this?

this: [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bus stop (talkcontribs) 00:21, February 18, 2009

Thank you. Bus stop (talk) 15:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

How off Topic

Hi Malik. First. This isn't an arguement. I don't see how that information is off topic when Henry Louis Gates estimates have been proven off from numerous geneticists and historians. Thats all. You know I'm completely up for talk. Maybe I'm just missing something.Mcelite (talk) 02:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes I haven't reverted anything since then. I just don't see how's it's off topic. Please explain.Mcelite (talk) 22:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

DC Meetup Events: You're invited!

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Fclass Returned

Hi Malik. Yeah I just saw that it was him. Almost had exact patterns that he's had before. I'm surprised he didn't removed the entire section of Who's African American or curse me out. Have a good day.Mcelite (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

A message to Malik Shabazz

AI/IAF/AFI is significantly the largest anarchist organization in the world. This is based on reliable, independent third party sources, and I hope thus that my scientifical contributions will not be deleted.

If adding true and easily verifiable information to the IFA-IAF-Wiki-page, that is clearly misleading and biased, is vandalism, you have a wrong interpretation of the concept vandalism. My additions are 100% according to the Wikipedia principle of verification. I am adding true and easily verifiable information to the IFA-IAF-Wiki-page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:46, March 3, 2009

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Malcolm X revisited, and a wild thought

I revisited the FAC for Malcolm X. Unrelated to that, I have been thinking about getting myself involved in a pit of quicksand: I am at once afraid of and pulled to a complete and massive rewrite for Martin Luther King, Jr. with the intention to get it featured. I wrote Birmingham campaign, and during a GA nomination for King about 6 months ago, I noticed the nominators had copied the lead from Birmingham campaign to King's article, and I protested that on the grounds that it's lazy and King deserves better.

However, it scares me out of my socks because there's such a canon of literature written about him; at east two are Pulitzer Prize winners. And it would be very time-consuming. I estimated 6 months to a year to write it, and a few trips to ANI for the various nuttiness that may ensue. I would be unable to do anything else, including review other articles or participate in wikiproject stuff. Or, work a month on and a month off...I don't know if I have the energy to do it. But I've been kicking the idea around and putting it off. Now I'm approaching you for the possibility of a collaboration. Do you have any opinions on this?

Giano's famous essay on how to get an FA suggests waiting for the 23rd before one tackles Winston Churchill. I think King is worthy of waiting until one's 50th FA, but who has that time? --Moni3 (talk) 22:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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Labor / Worker's Rights project

I recently drafted a proposal for a Worker's Rights & Labor Issues WikiProject ... I thought you might be interested, since you are working on the Anarchism project ...

Cheers! Jrtayloriv (talk) 05:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Template:User JTS

Thanks for the fix. I did so much work on Category:Jewish Wikipedians and all the templates in it, that I started making mistakes, appearently. Debresser (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Heather Hunter

hi, my source is that I talked to her on the radio and have known of this information since the beginning of her career in the 1980s. It's already correctly listed in the template. Why would I have to Citate it(Im not good with Citations), as it is already listed in the article correctly. I was adding to the text. And yes there are other porn stars who use their real names. Well that's about it. Koplimek (talk) 19:52, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Triple Crown

Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow the Triple Crown upon Malik Shabazz for your contributions in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FC. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for contributions to the project, Great work, especially on Malcolm X - great contribution on a key figure in history. May you wear the crowns well. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Islamic Cultural Center of New York

Hey Malik, I found it interesting that the first mosque in NYC wasn't built until the late 1980s, so I have proposed an alternate hook at DYK that includes that fact. Perhaps you'll leave a comment there if you approve. Thanks, Grsz11 23:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Content Creativity Barnstar.png The Content Creativity Barnstar
I was just really impressed by your creation of Islamic Cultural Center of New York, mainly that such a prominent subject had no article. Thus, I award you this barnstar. Keep up the good work! Grsz11 00:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Victim categories confusing?

I'd appreciate your input at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_March_12#Category:Holocaust_victims and below.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:29, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Mr. X

I just noticed that Malcolm X is now an FA, thanks to your indefatigable labor. Cheers to you, sir. Fine work on a vital piece. Scartol • Tok 12:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Adding a new category for SURVIVORS of the Holocaust

Hi Malik: Regarding the two CfDs at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 March 12#Category:Holocaust victims and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 March 12#Category:Nazi concentration camp victims, while I agree that the categories need to be sharpened, but if they are going to become categories about people who DIED only in Category:People who died in The Holocaust and Category:People who died in Nazi concentration camps respectively, then in all fairness and following good logic and historiography, following that reasoning, there should now therefore be two categories. ONE for those who DIED and one for those survivors who LIVED such as Category:Holocaust victims who survived and Category:Survivors of Nazi concentration camps that would allow for that. I am positive you will agree and kindly take a look at the two above CfD discussions again and note that that should be so, that both those who died and those who survived and lived, and who were/are of course notable, such as Elie Wiesel; Joel Teitelbaum; Yekusiel Yehudah Halberstam and many others that I know as being important to Jewish history, and there are many others like this from many other groups. It would be a great shame and travesty if those names were expunged only "because" they survived and escaped the fate the Nazis had wanted for them by having lived and not died in the Holocaust and/or the death and concentration camps. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

A land without a people for a people without a land

In response to your question at the notice board because I don't have the expertise that other editors have and I feel the issues haven't been resolved to merit the removal of the tags. I don't want to say much more because I've already been accused of canvassing on other pages. I suggest you come to the page and look at it and the talk page and see for yourself what the controversy is. annoynmous 08:06, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I've given up for know, I just don't have the spirit right know to go on. So now I don't have to worry about canvassing and can tell you the whole story.
The page was created an primarily edited by a sock editor who may have been and agent for the Israeli PR group CAMERA. Almost all the sources for the article were basically plagarized from an article written by one Diana muir. Even today if you look at the sources for the page the way there cited down to the text and page numbers are identical to Muirs article. Her article was published in the non-peer reviewed journal Middle East Quarterly which is run by Daniel Pipes. That's why there was a cherrypicked tag that said " Quotes collated by an advocacy group".
I originally tried to get the article deleted last year beacause it was obvious it was created with nefarious intentions. I was overruled and settled for a neutrality tag. It was another user Eleland who originally added the cherrypicked tag. Tags are supposed to stay up until the dispute is resolved. The dispute wasn't resolved, Historicist and Jayjg just decided they weren't going to allow the tags. I even made a compromise offer that was ignored.
Well I'm done with it know anyway. Maybe I'll come back later and take up the issue again. I just wanted to give you my side of the story. annoynmous 22:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Arise and Build

You're right. I would like to add the slogans to the articles on the many Zionist movements. And most of the articles need a lot of improvement.Historicist (talk) 13:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Your recent reverts to "Polish Death Camps"

You have reverted my edits without any real consideration nor explination. "Deceptive terms" should be used in the opening paragraph instead of "descriptive terms" as it gives a clearer picture in regards to the term "Polish Death Camps" being incorrect. You're going to tell me that the terms "Polish Death Camp" and "Polish Concentration Camp" are not deceivable??? Deceptive - To cause to believe what is not true; mislead, to give a false impression. This is exactly what these terms do! Poles and Jews both agree! Apparently you seem to have a conflict of interest! "Descriptive" is exactly what CTV had in mind when the used the term "Polish camp in Treblinka" which was of course incorrect and offensive to both Poles and Jews as both parties have rejected these terms. As an intermiediate member of the community you should know better! Shame on you! Beckenbauer1974 (talk)

Please do not make baseless threats

Your recent threat to have me blocked over a content dispute is one that you do not have the right to make. It is not vandalism to add a relevant category that does not have a category page to an article (obviously, if I had a user account, I could simply create the category page and then anyone who wished to remove articles from that category would have to find a different pretext on which to do so.) It does not serve you well to pretend that it is vandalism and pretend that you can have me blocked for such "vandalism"; attempting to exploit what you hope will be an anonymous editor's ignorance of Wikipedia procedure and policy does not reflect well upon you. -- (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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Malcolm X and Black Power

Thanks for update re Malcolm X and Black Power. I lived through the time and remember it as you do. Yes, Zinn is more than confusing, but captures the sense that I had about the events at the time, that Stokely was following Malcolm's lead. rchaswms 04:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rchaswms (talkcontribs)

DYK for Islamic Cultural Center of New York

Updated DYK query On March 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Islamic Cultural Center of New York, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 20:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland

Congratulations. Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland has reviewed your contributions and decided you are an active member. Thank you for your encyclopedic contributions! But creating content by yourself is only part of the collaborative Wikipedia user experience, there is an active community of editors discussing how to better improve the Poland-related content; please consider joining our discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland. There are many editors who would like to work more closely with you, benefit from your insight, and help you with their experience! PS. Please also consider editing your entry in our participants list to state your areas of expertise/interest. I have defined your interests there based on our past interactions as the area of "Polish-Jewish history", feel free to correct it.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

New film in Poland

Excellent film coming up you may be interested in.[5]--Jacurek (talk) 19:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The Pipeline

Updated DYK query On March 29, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Pipeline, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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