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Why don't you add the "This user is a Pakistani Wikipedian" template to your page" ?[edit]

Ditto. -- (talk) 09:18, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Ashir Azeem[edit]

I reverted your edit. There is no reference to him being in the PAF. If you wish to add him to that category, please add an appropriate reference. Thanks. -- (talk) 15:06, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

@ According to the article, he was an aeronautical engineer in the PAF. His profile at the Express Tribune would confirm this. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 15:10, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
OK. I reverted my revert. -- (talk) 15:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Can you do me a favour?[edit]

I saw we were creating individual templates for all the divisions of the Federal Cabinet of Pakistan, so I decided to make one for the Cabinet Secretariat. I accidently created it as Cabinet Secretary. Can you do me a favour and rename it?

Thanks. -- (talk) 10:07, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Ali Jinnah[edit]

Featured articles can be edited in ways since having been a FA. Once a good-article doesn't necessarily mean its been locked & shut. In this particular context, I refer you to the Talk page: 'Talk:Muhammad Ali Jinnah#Early years / Religion'

1. Edits have been made removing content from his "Early life" (specified in Talk). 2. Edits have been made which do not even fit into "Early age"–things referring to "latter" time period of subject's life. 3. Said insertions are WP:UNDUEWEIGHT since the section that does tackle the subject (i.e. religious persuasion) contains differing viewpoints/accounts, whereas the selected inserted statements contain one POV (of a matter that is debated).

If you think this makes any sense, hopefully you may restore the NPOV template on the article. Perhaps also add your take on the matter in the Talk page to see where it goes. DA1 (talk) 08:06, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

@DA1: Thanks for outlining your concerns. I've made an adjustment and left a comment on the article talk regarding this. Please note that as the dispute was over one section (or a few lines to be precise), there are section-specific and inline tags which would've done the job. Placing an NPOV tag for the entire article comes across as overkill in my opinion. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 08:41, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. I'm actually writing a response on the Talk page myself. I couldn't simply tag inline (with what exactly?), I instead chose to bring the whole issue to the Talk page, where it was unaddressed for exactly 2 months to the day. Then as I noticed the latter discussion (which was active, surprisingly) on a similar issue; I had to insert an NPOV tag. I couldn't simply "remove" the objected material or restore the prior material without the fear of being reverted, so I chose to take it to Talk instead. And i specified as much in the Edit Summary when I added said tag. DA1 (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for June 2017 Pakistan bombings[edit]

Gnome globe current event.svg On 27 June 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article June 2017 Pakistan bombings, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:50, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 July newsletter[edit]

The third round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 288 points being required to qualify for round 4. It was a hotly competitive round with all but four of the contestants exceeding the 106 points that was necessary to proceed to round 4 last year. Coemgenus and Freikorp tied on 288, and both have been allowed to proceed, so round 4 now has one pool of eight competitors and one of nine.

Round 3 saw the achievement of a 26-topic Featured topic by MPJ-DK as well as 5 featured lists and 13 featured articles. PanagiotisZois and SounderBruce achieved their first ever featured articles. Carbrera led the GA score with 10, Tachs achieved 17 DYKs and MBlaze Lightning 10 In the news items. There were 167 DYKs, 93 GARs and 82 GAs overall, this last figure being higher than the number of GAs in round 2, when twice as many people were taking part. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 4, we say goodbye to the fifteen or so competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

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Dina Jinnah[edit]

I just saw that you added divorce on Dina Wadia's info-box, but the references you provide, doesn't support the divorce. Can you tell me that how do you know that whether she was dovorced or is a widow? Ki Sochai (talk) 10:59, 8 July 2017 (PTC) Ki Sochai (talk) 18:01, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi. A widow is someone whose spouse has passed away so in that respect, she would already be one (if assuming her marriage contract remained). However, it is established across multiple sources that her marriage didn't last long and she separated from Nevilla Wadia. If you read the sources provided, they state that she obtained a divorce. Mar4d (talk) 11:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)


Firstly, I thank you for your input in helping resolving the rather unnecessary dispute. One relevant question for me to improve the article is the notelist section. I know how to mark repeated references using refill [1], but don't know how to mark repeated notes which I will very much need for the article. Any help here is very much appreciated.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 01:53, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Request for help at Ehsan Sehgal[edit]

Hi there, would you be able to help verify some Urdu sources over at Ehsan Sehgal? The references section is a bit of a mess, some of the English-language sources were used in a misleading or exaggerated fashion, and the problem has been brought into relief by the fact his daughter is requesting the deletion of the page (it's currently in AfD but looks like the decision will be keep).

Thanks for any help you might be able to offer. Landscape repton (talk) 11:07, 14 July 2017 (UTC)


Hello, Mar4d. Could you please tell me about AfD's where I went wrong? Greenbörg (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mar4d: Any suggestion as I'm completely dependent on web sources? Greenbörg (talk) 14:14, 16 July 2017 (UTC)


this is in response to the qts u put on my talk page, sorry for late reply, balti people used to aware of their own calendar which was actually Tibetan calendar but for the masses now it is not in currency. Most of people ,except elders, are not aware of it but intellectuals have mentioned it in their works (like in Arz-e-Baltistan by ibrahim zair)and i read some of books. these were in urdu language and not available on internet. --Baltistani (talk) 10:19, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi.. i have got some related stuff which is in urdu if u,r interested then share u,re email adress i will send it to u.thanks--Baltistani (talk) 10:20, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
the way u mentioned doesn,t seem working as there was no option for sending photograph. can,t you send gmail address?--Baltistani (talk) 15:50, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I recognize your contributions to Wikipedia. Thanks for your contributions. Greenbörg (talk) 07:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
@Greenbörg: Thank you, that is very kind of you. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 11:26, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
well deserved. --Saqib (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

No way[edit]

You edited the C.A.S. School article which I attended during childhood from grade 1 to 7. Just been fixing up the article. Did you ever go there or know anyone there?--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 03:03, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

@NadirAli: I am not affiliated with that school. It is a prominent school though :) Mar4d (talk) 07:03, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
It is especially nowadays. It's too bad I left when I did. I had completed the kindergarten and junior school and started at the senior school campus back in the day a few years before they moved to defense. Although I found the junior school campus sub-principle was enforcing a deep sense of westernization, things are changing. Those were the awesome days and a time to live in Karachi. :-) --NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 16:57, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tourism in Balochistan, Pakistan[edit]

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Sharif's article[edit]

Hello, Mar4d. I'm working on the chief ministership of Shehbaz Sharif which is more appropriate title. If we rename it 'administration' then we can't add all that messy stuff. An administration is similar to a ministry where you only add names of minister or like. The Premiership is different where you can add all the steps taken by that person. Khattak article needs to comply with WP standards. There is a lot of promotional stuff. You can check these articles: Premiership of David Cameron, Second Cameron ministry, Chief Ministership of N. T. Rama Rao, Chief Ministership of Rajagopalachari. Thanks, Greenbörg (talk) 07:32, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

@Greenbörg: Fair enough. It would really make sense though if we keep the names consistent, whether that is for the Sharif article or Khattak article. Both articles aim to cover their chief ministership (if that is a better word than administration). Mar4d (talk) 07:35, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Sure. Greenbörg (talk) 07:36, 24 July 2017 (UTC)