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Wow, twice in one day

You break the 1RR[1] Self revert please. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:41, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


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Edit warring

Why did you remove reliably sourced content when you restored the POV template? Darkness Shines (talk) 15:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

That can go in the body, the lead should only preferably mention tribal forces per WP:WEIGHT since they were at the forefront of the conquest. Mar4d (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
No they were not, the ywere lead by Pakistani officers. I will rewrite that entire article to reflect historical fact. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
You are incorrect, the armed forces became involved after the incursion of tribal forces. The article should accordingly document it as such. Mar4d (talk) 16:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Kashmir movement template

May I suggest try to take a middle road. Increase the scope of the template to cover Azad Kashmir and related issues also. And don't get personal. Stop slapping and trouting and all. Samar (Talk . Contributions) 20:39, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, will surely take it. Separatist movements which are also active in Azad Kashmir are also included, which I've noted in the footnote in the template. Mar4d (talk) 02:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan Murdabad

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Do you really think it is an attack page? Sources have been clearly given, and they also establishes the notability. Do remember that Wikipedia is not censored. Also it would be great if you can tell how did you reached that place. It would be better if you don't follow me and place false tags. I hope this won't be repeated. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 14:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC) Unconstructive comment partially striked per WP:NPA. Mar4d (talk) 15:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC))

I have nominated it for AfD, you may discuss there. Also, please do not try to give vieled threats. It is none of your business to figure what articles I edit or make observations on my activities. The policy is clear, comment on the content, not the contributor. Stay on topic now and focus on the content dispute. Mar4d (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Wait a sec. I don't care if you are editing ANY article of Wikipedia, but I care when you are following me and trying to hound me. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 15:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
What can I say really, more WP:BATTLEGROUND thinking. I believe I have sufficiently raised my concerns on your article, it would be in best interests to let the final decision come about through means of consensus. I am not impressed by your playing of the WP:HOUND card. Even if it is to be loosely applied, it would be tantamount to questioning how you came to this article. I am going to archive this discussion now, make your comments at the AfD. Mar4d (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Care to comment?

Do you care to comment at Talk:Gilgit–Baltistan#Neutrality? Barring any new information, I will be reinstating the POV tag as I am completely unconvinced that the article is neutral based on a two sentence message. I may be starting an RfC on the topic to get some opinions by uninvolved editors. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I've replied on the talk page. Mar4d (talk) 15:04, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, I've started an RfC and will refrain from adding the tag until the issue is discussed and resolved through that method. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:06, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks, Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:12, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!

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Thanks for the falafel, you're welcome. Mar4d (talk) 14:01, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Deputy Prime Minister of Pakistan

I've nominated Deputy Prime Minister of Pakistan, the prose has still some issues. If you could improve the article I'll be vey grateful. I'm busy with a FLC at the moment. ZiaKhan 15:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I can't guarantee much, but sure I'll take a look if I get some free time on my hands. Mar4d (talk) 06:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I did some work on the article. You please just take a look. ZiaKhan 07:13, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Looks good, I'll comment over at the DYK soon. Mar4d (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Martial Race

Please look into the article in detail. Samar (Talk . Contributions) 19:31, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

RefDesk query

Hi. I help out at the RefDesks, where this query came up today. I googled for a quick notability check before responding, and spotted your sandbox draft of an article on this individual (I assume the same person our OP is asking about). Since you're part-way there I thought I'd let you know, rather than just send the OP off to the back of the RA queue. Cheers, - Karenjc 08:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this person is indeed whom the user is referring to. I intend to create this article. Mar4d (talk) 11:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


I note that you haven't participated in the mediation lately. I've asked a question here. Would you be able to respond? Sunray (talk) 15:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Meh, just been busy lately and disinterested. Let's see.... I'll take a look at the topic and if I've got anything to add, will express my opinion. Mar4d (talk) 15:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I've added some... maybe you can comment on that or drop in any other sources you have. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Replied. Mar4d (talk) 10:31, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

The forgotten barnstar

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For assessing more than 400 articles in WP Pakistan Tag & Assess 2012. The initiative is almost forgotten but carry on the work. Samar (Talk . Contributions) 19:45, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Samar. Mar4d (talk) 10:33, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of India and state terrorism

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Pakistan Quality Article Statistics

Hi, the table of Pakistan article statistics isn't updating. There are five entries in FL and now seven in FA. A number of articles within the scope of the project have been tagged and added however the tally here still remains the same. Any idea what is the lag time. Samar (Talk . Contributions) 08:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmm no idea. I've checked the history of the page and apparently the bot has stopped updating it. Not sure what would be an appropriate venue to raise this.. Mar4d (talk) 09:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I don't know how it works but its been changed to {{User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Pakistan}}. I can't find that page. This is the Bot page.Samar (Talk . Contributions) 13:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Probable reason. Samar (Talk . Contributions) 18:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


Either explain what you are disputing on the talk page per policy or I shall remove the tag. Darkness Shines (talk) 10:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

FAC, not talk page. Mar4d (talk) 11:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Then link it to there. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
The FAC page is not the place to discuss a content dispute, use the article talk page. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:58, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


Singa ae ror? lol se lewane de da khayal de che mung de nasu nwaye. --SMS Talk 12:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Teh kha yam, manana wror. Aya ta pa Pukhtu khabary kawalai shay? Mala laglag Pukhtu razi :) Lol @ lewane... surprise, surprise. Face-smile.svg Mar4d (talk) 12:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


  • Hi,Mar4d, Though there are unjust rules or behaviours, but there is justice too.
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An appreciation barnstar in recognition of your all past and for future work on Wikipedia. Justice007 (talk) 15:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Justice. Mar4d (talk) 09:46, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


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Nomination for deletion of Template:Gotras of Jats

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Broken link

[2] You don't need to have a working link. Just add the link when you find one, content can still go if you've verified. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Right. I had actually used that now-dead link on the Waqar Younis article some time ago, no idea why it's broken now. Anyway, there is this reference sourced to Cricinfo, although it's only the quote. But I think it's good enough for verification. Mar4d (talk) 12:12, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
All you need is date, title, author etc to source it. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake from across the border!

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Branstar For You

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This Branstar for you for your significant contributions to Pakistan related Articles. You realy deserve this.  Tariq.Imra Talk 16:01, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Tariq, it's appreciated. Mar4d (talk) 01:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Resorted to misleading comments at ANI ?

Would you provide the diffs when you replied to this question Salvio's talk page ? You have just said at ANI that you already replied there, but all I see is your attacks.--DBigXray 12:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I am referring to my comment above that reply by JCAla, that was related to the issue. Mar4d (talk) 12:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
I can see that your claim above is false again. User_talk:Salvio_giuliano#Please... the time stamps say otherwise. How can you answer a question before it is asked ? --DBigXray 12:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of India and state sponsored terrorism for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article India and state sponsored terrorism is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Qissa Khwani Bazaar

I see you have made some changes in the article and moved the related massacre page. Shouldn't the spellings be Qissa Kahani. In Urdu Q stands for qāf and and K for kāf. And I don't understand the spellings of Khwani, is this an alternative word used locally for story کہانی? I was to move the pages to the new spellings but needed another opinion. Samar Talk 19:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)From what I know the name of this locality of Peshawar is not "Qisa Kahani" but "Qisa Khwani". "Khwani" is a persian word that means "reading", just like "Naat Khwan", where "Khwan" means reader. --SMS Talk 19:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
That makes sense. Reading back Qissa Kahani would mean story-story. In quite a few literature sources it is termed kahani. Do you have any reference where it explicitly mentions the correct name. In English it is commonly known as the story-tellers market. Strictly speaking it then translates to story-telling market.Samar Talk 20:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
SMS is right, the correct spelling/pronounciation is "Khwani" and the definition of Qissa Khwani is basically "Bazaar of the Storytellers" (or storytellers market). Mar4d (talk) 09:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Friendly advice

Hey Mard just a few words If you think someone is being uncivil responding to them just means your bringing yourself to an uncivil level just stay cool and try not to respond to uncivil comments with more uncivil comments I am not saying its your fault just that you will get along more with certain users if you are more patient Westwoodzie (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, will surely take it :) Mar4d (talk) 03:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Independence Day of Pakistan

The lead was tough and the prose will be even tougher but will fix everything till midnight :) TheSpecialUser TSU 11:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Err yeah, just stalked TopGun's talk page.. cool idea :) In my opinion, don't overburden yourself... it doesn't have to be perfect or reach GA status, just improving and expanding the article itself is a commendable job :) Mar4d (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
hehe agree with Mar4d...he was already editing the article when you placed this notice Face-wink.svg TheStrikeΣagle 12:11, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Great, I'll take a look shortly and see where I can help out. Mar4d (talk) 09:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for joining in, you can help by adding details on adoptions of Independence day in films, books. BTW, off topic– I have started this article A Morning with Farah Can you find one or two ref for this article and there are two Arshad Mahmood, can you tell me which Arshad Mahmood participated in the show (I am doubful about the link). their site has wrong spelling! --Tito Dutta 09:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Apologies for the late reply; been a bit busy. Um, to be honest, I am not much familiar with that person (Arshad Mahmood) so cannot provide much of an opinion there, sorry. If you think the wrong person is linked, you may just leave the name unlinked to be on the safer side. And yeah, I'll try my best to take a look at the independence article ASAP. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 11:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I was trying to finish this review before 14 August! Don't know where is TSU? --Tito Dutta 11:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey details on the 21 toppon ke salaami in the morning, from which the official ceremony starts needs to be added, I can't find any source for it. Can you add it. Samar Talk 13:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

You mean the 21-gun salute? :) Mar4d (talk) 13:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Okay dokey, try: Business Recorder [3], The Frontier Post [4], Geo News [5], Xinhua News [6], although they all only have passing mentions. I'll try to look for better ones. By the way, I think it's 21 only in the provincial capitals, in the capital (Islamabad) it's always a 31-gun salute.. Mar4d (talk) 13:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes, maybe. For some reason 21 topon ke salaami is stuck in my head since childhood. Last source would do. Thanks Samar Talk 14:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Lol, I guess that's what they call it in Urdu :p Mar4d (talk)
You have a new message at section 08 at review page Talk:Independence_Day_(Pakistan)/GA1#Section_08_Y_Done --Tito Dutta 14:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Done. Mar4d (talk) 14:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Can you add Pakistan Gov's article on the Independence day in external link section? Currently there are US Gov and German something in that section! --Tito Dutta 14:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I'll try to dig something. Mar4d (talk) 15:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Good luck guys! To be frank, I'm burnout now (had 2 exams; each lasting 3 hours + homework etc.). I'll be doing what I can do but need some rest. Thanks a lot Samar and Mar4d for improving it :) TheSpecialUser TSU 15:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
No worries, take a break. The article is a hundred times better than what it was just a couple of days ago :) Good work. Mar4d (talk) 15:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

See now. Samar Talk 10:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

That is better, thanks. Mar4d (talk) 10:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism on Nadeem F. Paracha's page

Hello. Can you please look into a recent bout of vandalism on Nadeem F. Paracha's page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar.Bless sins (talk) 06:07, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome ;) Mar4d (talk) 06:21, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


Are you good with DYKs, that's one of the many areas I haven't ventured into. Would like some help with this one. The article is new, has a reliable reference and if the character count does not meet maybe you can help with the expansion. Samar Talk 18:09, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, very simple - follow these steps to nominate your article. When you create the nomination, you will need to have a "hook" (i.e. the DYK fact that you would like to be featured) then others will review it. Let me know whatever you need help in if you're having trouble. Mar4d (talk) 01:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Discussion/Consensus on article:Indian Century

Dear sir/madam,

I just wanted to clarify your reasons for issuing a redirect on this article to:Potential Superpowers. What are the exact motives involved in insinuated deletion of this article? Thank you for your attention and understanding.

Goldendarkness10 (talk) 00:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I have gone through the history of that page and it is evident that there has been consensus/agreement to redirect this article. This is because the concept is based on a single perspective/theory and is found to be not notable, nor satisfy WP:NEO. Doing an online search of the term also yields very few results, and the ones that do come up are things such as opinion pieces or editorials etc. Unless this topic recieves significant coverage in the years to come, then we can of course create an article on it. But currently, the correct course of action would be to redirect it to the Potential superpowers page where the topic is better covered, and since this article is redundant to that and is not as notable. Hope that clarifies. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 01:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Understood. The only concern I have is that the article "Chinese century" also exists, and I feel in all consideration a similar course of action should be taken for this too. Thank you for your ardent reply. Best regards, Goldendarkness (talk) 03:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I have not taken a detailed look at that article. But if you believe that article also has similar issues to the ones above, you may nominate it for deletion and explain your rationale. Let me know if you need any help with something. Best, Mar4d (talk) 05:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Alright, now it's nominated for deletion. If you want you can take a look at it and support my request. Ciao, Goldendarkness (talk) 18:17, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your help at Independence_Day_(Pakistan) which just became a GA. Thanks for helping along! TheSpecialUser TSU 06:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks TSU. It's appreciated, Mar4d (talk) 09:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Mar4d/India and state terrorism

User:Mar4d/India and state terrorism, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mar4d/India and state terrorism and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Mar4d/India and state terrorism during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Facts, not fiction (talk) 13:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Malaysia

Please note that category redirects, even those a user thinks are unneeded, aren't subject to speedy deletion under CSD C1. If you think that Category:Ambassadors of Pakistan to Malaysia should be deleted, feel free no nominate it at Categories for discussion. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


thanks for invitation to join WikiProject Pashtun,--(talk/ Shahzadapashtun) 23:43, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Review of user edits

Can you please take a look at this users edits. In most of them the user has changed Potohari language to Panjistani. I have seen this statement added in quite a few articles and can't make out the meaning behind it. Also see the article Panjistani. I did online search but can't find anything outside wikipedia and mirror websites regarding the language or dialect of Panjistani. Samar Talk 19:31, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, a couple of other editors are already on it.

Barn star

Hi Mar4d,
Thank you for the barn star & sorry for replying so late. I have been moving around for a while so couldn't thank you earlier. Will keep on working on Pakistani articles for as long as I can.
Cheers !!!
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FYI, you are mentioned at my talkpage. --SMS Talk 20:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Noted. Mar4d (talk) 01:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

14 August

Is "Date of independence" okay? :) TheSpecialUser TSU 00:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, that sounds better I guess - although just "independence" was simple and concise in my opinion. But whatever, not a big deal. Mar4d (talk) 01:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Hajra Masroor

I've taken a look at the article and added all the relevant categories that I could find. Let me know if something's missing or is incorrect. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 15:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Great, much better and thanks.Justice007 (talk) 16:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


Sure. Mar4d (talk) 07:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Reply (Boards)

Hi dude... Education is a matter of provinces now... I found this webpage... It has everything like History, Jurisdiction etc... Hope it helps... The organizations that work under national/federal level are listed here... Good luck... :) FudgeFury(talk|sign|contribs) 15:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! This was exactly the type of thing I was looking for. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 02:00, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


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Redirect Categorization

Are such redirects categorized? And if they are, isn't there a template to do this? --SMS Talk 05:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

No, such redirects do not need categorisation because the main article itself is also the same thing so the category should be there instead. Mar4d (talk) 07:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan waterfalls

Can you find any official or other reliable source with some info on waterfalls in Pakistan. I read somewhere there are more than hundred alone in GB but can hardly find anything online. Samar Talk 11:18, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried Google Books? Mar4d (talk) 13:02, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Sabihuddin Ghausi

Superstition in Pakistan

Please review Superstition in Pakistan. Thanks. Delljvc (talk) 16:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Good article, sure I'll take a look. Mar4d (talk) 12:25, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Karachi Press Club

Good article Justice007. Believe it or not, I had this article on my to-do list :p Mar4d (talk) 00:19, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks for compliment, I believe you, actually I was busy to search the sources about senior journalists to write articles on them, that some of those I have created. During the search I missed the article of Karachi Press Club, that was once my headquarter.What were the lovely days of that time. I miss the article on "Karachi Union Of Journalists" too. May be that is also in your list?. Be hurry to create, otherwise?!---. Cheers.Justice007 (talk) 08:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Indeed, the Karachi Press Club is one of the largest and most prominent press clubs of Pakistan. Nice to see your work on journalism and literature-related articles, please keep it up. If you need any help with something, leave me a message. There are plenty of sources available for Karachi Union of Journalists, so if you plan to create an article on that, I will try to help in wherever I can. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 08:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Bowling speed

I think a seperate article might in time just get merged into bowling (cricket), so I'd perhaps include it as a section on that article, plus including it in the glossary. It's interesting comparing speed live at a match or on tv to what sites like cricinfo say. Take Darren Sammy, cricinfo says his speed is medium-fast (used to say fast-medium :S), but I've never seen him get above 78mph live at a match or on tv. Medium pace, perhaps! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 20:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Hmm I agree. It's better to include it as a section in the article then, along with a concise entry on the term in the glossary. PS. I've seen Sammy play before and 78 mph goes up to somewhere in the 120s (kph). I suppose he's a medium pacer :) By the way, is there even such a thing as "medium-fast" bowling? (confused :s) Interesting indeed... the cricket glossary defines a medium pacer as "a bowler who bowls slower than a pace bowler, but faster than a spin bowler. Speed is important to the medium-pacer, but they try and defeat the batsman with the movement of the ball". Mar4d (talk) 01:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

List of international cricket centuries by Javed Miandad

Hello, could you please help me at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by Javed Miandad/archive1. I don't kow how to upload an image from other sources or if you have free images of Miandad. Zia Khan 12:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi there! I am not very good with images/commons procedures or familiar with licensing rules when it comes to finding free images and uploading them. Sorry about that :( I think the best way would be to search on Flickr as another user has suggested on the FA review. Usually, when you see an image on Flickr, the license details are provided along with it on the page. Mar4d (talk) 12:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Pakistan: Tag & Assess 2012

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Nomination of Garrison Golf and Country Club for deletion

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Thanks for sending me a message. Sure, I will seek to add more information and scientific contribution in "Supercomputing in Pakistan". By the way, if I do have a request, if you can we need to secure "Abdus Salam"'s article, someone is removing some factual information about Salam's hidden role in Pakistan's atomic bomb project. Please, look into his page, its really important. Thanks for your contribution, you are doing a wonderful job out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeerBaba (talkcontribs) 05:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I've watchlisted that article now so I'll look into it if there's any disruptive edits. Please keep up your good work. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 05:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Overseas Asian diaspora template

Thanks! I really messed up there, haha. (talk) 14:12, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

No worries. Mar4d (talk) 14:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


Hi, As you are aware that I am doing lots of my efforts on Urdu Wiki. I often work to update Interwiki links and Categories link between the two Wikipedias i.e. Urdu & English Wikipedia. I am using "Hot Interwiki" link in Urdu wiki but couldn't succeed to find this link in English Wiki. Can you help me out to get this tool in English Wiki too so that I may enter Urdu interwiki link into English as I am usually make new categories on Urdu Wiki to categorize all article in a proper way. I only use English Wiki to enter Urdu interwiki and for this I've to spend lot of time to push the edit button on every single article on English Wiki to enter Urdu interwiki link.

I hope you will help me to get access to "Hot Interwiki" tool on English Wikipedia. Thanks--ساجد امجد ساجد (talk) 19:10, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Mall of Lahore. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Epeefleche (talk) 02:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


You are now on 3RR on Human rights violations in Balochistan. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


You are mentioned in a request for amendment on an arbitration case here Darkness Shines (talk) 21:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am too busy with real life commitments currently. I have not yet bothered to read what this arbitration is about and am not going to either at the moment, but whatever it is, I won't be able to participate or formulate my views there. Mar4d (talk) 10:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Suspect sock tags

Go on the user page before an SPI. That is the procedure. I highly recommend you stop reverting such tags from suspected sockpuppet userpages. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:35, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Where's the SPI, I can't see any SPI? Mar4d (talk) 23:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Pakistani Barnstar of National Merit.png Pakistan Barnstar of National Merit
For seeing things exactly as I see them, not taking the rather severe criticism to heart, and showing a will to launch a mass cleanup operation rather than taking the easy option. SPECTRE has filed a cloning report of you ready to clone your much needed quality service to Pakistan articles with 10,000 minimes, all capable of zapping up the POV and CAPITAL LETTERS with a stun gun. Every Pakistan article should indeed look like 2011 NATO attack in Pakistan, fantastic job!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:51, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Blofeld for the barnstar and appreciation, I'm flattered :) Looking forward to seeing the minimes zapping away with their stun guns sooner than later. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of Pakistan

Hello, I've largely expended the list. Please have a look for grammar and spelling corrections, or anything if you want to expand it more. Regards. Zia Khan 01:35, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I'm just a bit busy though with some real life commitments so depending upon how much free time I have, I'll take a look. Mar4d (talk) 14:54, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Location of update tag

In the article Water supply and sanitation in Pakistan you removed an update tag saying that it belongs to the talk page. In my view, it is preferable to place such update tags on the article page for the following reasons: 1. All kind of other maintenance tags are always placed on the article page, typically using a template form 2. Readers are interested to know how up-to-date an article is. For example, for water supply and sanitation country profiles, after a few years some important information such as on access, service quality, tariffs and financing is outdated, but this is not necessarily easy to see for readers without the maintenance tag. 4. Most readers unfortunately never look at the talk page, as can be seen from the view statistics. I therefore suggest to put the update tag, which right now has been completely removed, back on the article page.--Mschiffler (talk) 09:55, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

I understand where you're getting at, but the "update tag" you are referring to was not exactly a "tag" - correct me if I'm wrong, but it was a hatnote, and as far as I know, hatnotes are not the norm if you want to indicate that an article needs to be updated. For that purpose, consider placing the Template:Update or Template:Out of date at the top of the article. Mar4d (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
I see that you have removed the hatnote again without first waiting for the outcome of the discussion. Hmm. To me, it is important to find the right toll to fit the purpose of allowing the reader to quickly get an idea about whether parts of an article or the entire article are out-of-date or not. In this case, parts of the article are out of date, but without necessarily compromising the factual accuracy of the article. This is why the template:out of date would be inappropriate. The template:update is unfortunately insufficient fur the purpose, since it is not differentiated. One could of course go to every single section and add the template:update or not. But this would be time-consuming, if applied to numerous articles, and it would clutter each article. In some cases, such as for water supply and sanitation in Pakistan, the most up-to-date information available is ten years old. Also, the term "outdated" is relative. For some readers, data from last year are already outdated. But often data for even the last few years are unavailable, in the case of this topic. On the other hand, even if data are several years old, the gist of the article may be still right. Who judges based on which criteria an article is outdated? In my view, adding a hatnote allows to convey a differentiated message, giving the reader concise and relevant information to make his or her own judgment whether the article is outdated or not. Creating a new template for this purpose would be another option, but at least I do not know how to do that. Your constructive views on this are appreciated.--Mschiffler (talk) 15:54, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Amendment request declined

This is a courtesy notification that an amendment request naming you as a party has been declined.

For the Arbitration Committee, --Lord Roem (talk) 18:02, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Join us at FB

Hello Pakistanis Wikipedians! Assalam-o-Alaikum, I hope you are enjoying editing Wikipedia and helping around. I want to join every Pakistani Wikipedian on facebook so I hope you would like to join us in our community. We would/could help each other and make Pakistani articles more better.

Join us:

And then sign my guestbook for memories.

Regards: -- Captain Wikipedia! ( T - C - G ) 13:18, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Here's a barnstar for you!

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This user has signed my userpage and been awarded with a barnstar. Click here to sign if you have not already. Jakob
Thanks, glad to have signed it. Mar4d (talk) 03:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Images should be discussed

Hello mar4d,

Why did u remove the picture of shaheed-e-millat liaquat ali khan presenting pakistans national flag in the first constituent assembly. This is the history of pakistan and it should be on the page. The first prime minister presenting pakistans national flag for the first time is very important. You should not remove something of that importance. I hope that you wont do it again. Thankyou very much in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Love4pakistan (talkcontribs) 12:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

YOur message.

Hi Sir, sir i need your help to remove the bad templates from my article,Khan Roshan Khan. thanks.wassalamNasir swabi (talk) 14:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I received your message regarding the Adnan Sami article edit. My edit is absolutely accurate as I got it from the office of Mr. Adnan Sami. the previous article was extremely inaccurate. Kindly replace it with the proper officially authenticate biography of mr. Adnan Sami. Regards. Foster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 786foster101 (talkcontribs) 18:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. I appreciate your effort, but your edits appear to be problematic because a lot of sourced content has been removed and there are also formatting issues. Please avoid removing anything that is sourced to a citation because Wikipedia articles depend on verification and your edits appear to remove a lot of verified content. Mar4d (talk) 18:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


There is no reason to remove names from the template just because they are Afghans. A minister qualifies as a key figure, esepecially if that minister may be representing a specific tribe or group. What you can do is add another list for ministers and governors.--Chilum aw charrs (talk) 07:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


Hi, Mar4D,hope so ur fine, actually i want to create an article in Punjabi and urdu language as well. Can you Help me???? (Gsksari (talk) 10:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC))

Category:Pakistani political terms

Category:Pakistani political terms, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 21:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)