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I am using this space to create my sandbox. MarnetteD | Talk 20:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Here is another. MarnetteD|Talk 21:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
and one more MarnetteD|Talk 22:13, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


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I believe I've dealt with this editor before when he was editing similar articles using a different IP. He made the same "kids who know nothing hassling smart old me" comments. At the time, he claimed to be a University Professor in Media or some such, posting from his office. Of course, his IP info said differently. He was blocked then, and this new instance is blocked. JoeSperrazza (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Here are the links:
JoeSperrazza (talk) 20:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for all the info and the links JoeSperrazza. I appreciate you taking the time to do this and it will be good to have it in one place. In the AN report Binksternet supplied the link to a previous ANI discussion seen here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive887#IP troll Stubbornness or trolling either way it is a shame really. Oh, flunking students that disagreed with you is the opposite of what being and educator is about. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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(talk page stalker) This is User:Nate Speed. Sro23 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Ah - thanks for the explanation P. The flipping out in the edit summaries is familiar. If my memory dredges up any names I'll let you know. MarnetteD|Talk 22:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Excellent Sro23!! Thanks for posting. MarnetteD|Talk 22:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks NinjaRobotPirate. This is all ringing some bells - I think you may have told me about this before. If so I'm glad you refreshed my memory. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 07:23, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you![edit]

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Thank You for helping on Hot tooth syndrome.

Trish pt7 (talk) (talk) 03:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome T. MarnetteD|Talk 03:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Happy 90th[edit]

For my TPWers on Tom Lehrer's 90th birthday I thought I'd leave you this version of The Elements (song) to celebrate. If anyone has ever been or talked to one of his students I have always been curious as to what he was like as a teacher. Happy Happy TL. MarnetteD|Talk 17:32, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

That won't play for me (wrong plugin?), but I like Tom Lehrer. I first heard some of his work, including "The Elements", among the various clips that were the stock of Frank Muir goes into ... in the 1970s on BBC Radio. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Well rats Redrose64. There are other versions out there but I like this one because they include a list of the "ones that haven't been dis-cah-vered" at the time at the end of the song. I first heard him on the short lived US version of That Was the Week That Was. Here is a treat showing how far ahead of the curve he could be. Just think this is more than 50 years before 50 Shades of Grey :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

History of cricket in South Africa from 1990–91 to 2000[edit]

Hey there... while the single ref is formatted correctly, if you look at the article, almost every (or every) test match contains a raw link. Neither Reflinks or the other tool (and I'm having a senior moment here, and cannot think of the name), will fix them. Has to be done manually, one by one. Pain in the ass, but if not done, all that info could be lost. On a different note, if another editor used a derogatory term about you, would you ask for it to be revdeled? Onel5969 TT me 23:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969. I hope I didn't give offense with my edit summary - trying to be brief can also leave out politeness. I use both Reflinks and reFill - there may even be others but these are the only ones I'm aware of. Neither one can fix those items. Sorry about that. As I look closer at that page you could try turning all of those ELs in the body of the article into full fledged references and then run one of the two fix programs on them but I don't know how much of a hassle that would be. Now, as to your other question I guess it depends on what the comment is and which admin you ask. There certainly is criteria for removing derogatory comments. You could ask an admin that you know or check for those at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests and see how it goes. I'm sorry you are having to put up with the tripe that is hitting you today. It is the ultimate in BS to claim that - based on where one lives - one can or cannot have knowledge of a given subject :-) Hang in there. MarnetteD|Talk 00:26, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
No offense taken. I know how brevity can appear to be non-polite, but I also know you and that's not how I took it in the least. Hence, my post on your talk page, to explain why I tagged it. And you're right, not interested enough in the subject matter to go through all that trouble (and your suggested fix is exactly the way I would have handled it). Which is why I tagged it, in the hopes of some editor with interest in the subject matter would undertake that herculean task. Onel5969 TT me 03:42, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Linkrot tag[edit]

Hi. I think you are misinterpreting the tag. It states, "This article uses bare URLs for citations...", and I think you're missing the 5th type of citation. If you click on the link for citation in the tag, or simply go to WP:CITETYPE which is on that page, the 5th type of citation is "A general reference", which is not an inline citation. I know both reflinks and refill don't "see" anything in an article which doesn't have the <ref> in front of it, but the tag is only to alert editors of the issue, and provide them a tool for a quick fix. I think it should be left. There's an editor, and I can't think of his username at the moment, who does a lot of this type of manual correction when I tag articles like this. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 10:51, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello again O. Based on this conversation User talk:DESiegel#Thank you I try to avoid using that tag as I agree with that editor that it is misleading since it implies that reFill can fix things. If you click on the blue linked term "reFill tool" the only thing it does is remove the tag. It only works on citations that have the <ref></ref> tags around it. The same is true for Reflinks. Instead I use the tag {{Citation style}} for those. I should also note that items in ELs don't require cite templates or at least I rarely see them. Sources is a different matter but, again, I try to use the other template. I can add that cite templates don't always prevent link rot - I have seen several references with the title "404 error" which I then tag with a dead link template. One other thing - any editor can click on the "reFill tool" link to run the program. It'll fix many of the bare urls - with the notable exception of PFD files. Those it doesn't fix you can just leave and those of us that monitor the Category:All articles with bare URLs for citations will get to them eventually. Now all of this is based on my experience but i know that there are wiki things out there that I will be unaware of. Also, I probably haven't explained this very well so let me know and I can try to go further. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 14:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Forgot to ping you Onel5969. Although I suspect you have this page on your watchlist I did want to let you know that I have replied. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:08, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
I just saw your post at ANI about the problematic editor from yesterday. I am glad they were blocked. That should give more credence to any items that you think should be rev/deleted if you want to pursue that. MarnetteD|Talk 14:20, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

당신을 위한 반스타![edit]

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Thank you for your making many good Korean Documents. 칼빈500 (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
You are welcome and thank you for this barnstar. MarnetteD|Talk 01:58, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Warner Bros. films[edit]

Just wondering: What would qualify a movie to be included in Category:Warner Bros. films? I've seen you a remove a lot of films that would seem to qualify. Trivialist (talk) 00:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Trivialist. Please see these two previous threads User talk:MarnetteD/archive50#Categorizing films by distributor. - User talk:MarnetteD/archive52#Film co's for background to help answer your question. My edits are based on this Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Categorization#General categorization which I link to in my edit summaries. The shorter version is that I am removing the films where WB is only the distributor of a film as - per WP:CATDEF - that is not a defining characteristic of a film. I leave the cat in an article whenever they are the (or one of the) companies that produced the film. I hope this helps explain things but if it doesn't I'll be happy to have another go at this. MarnetteD|Talk 02:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
I should add that I try to read the article to make sure that I am applying the MOSFILM item correctly but I can make mistakes. Please feel free to re-add the cat if I have done that. MarnetteD|Talk 02:04, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Re: revert on Steve Jackson[edit]

Re this revert [1][2]. Thank you, I was being too casual about the edit and should have be more careful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joereddington (talkcontribs) 20:00, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello J. No worries. Your idea has merit. That paragraph could be moved or the section header could be renamed to include larger roles as well as the cameos. MarnetteD|Talk 20:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Corinne's talk[edit]

Hi MarnetteD; re [3]; actually it was my mistake. I thought the 'no' param was to do with page archiving but it actually enables the display of links to page archives in the archive box. I should have known better, really! The code that actually commands a bot to archive the page was removed a while back. Best regards, Baffle gab1978 15:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Baffle gab1978. No worries and I had missed the removal of the bot command when it happened so my apologies as well. I think that I will always miss her and her contributions to the 'pedia so I am glad that the heartfelt thoughts of her fellow editors will be there to be seen. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 15:45, 24 April 2018 (UTC)


And thanks again for the future tag additions when I inevitably forget. --NeilN talk to me 14:54, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

No worries at all NeilN. I am always happy to help when I can. Enjoy your Wednesday. MarnetteD|Talk 15:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

RIP Bob[edit]

Bob Dorough thanks to you (and all of the creators of Schoolhouse Rocks) for making learning fun. My sympathies to your friends and families. Here is one of my faves for my TPWs. MarnetteD|Talk 15:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Brian Dennehy[edit]

Why did you remove the improvements I made too? When the template was added the header was one sentence and there were 15 sources. Now the header is a good size and there's 24 sources. Why are you still opposed to removing it? --Ramanixo (talk) 16:44, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

A) Several of your changes are purely cosmetic and bump into WP:NOTBROKEN B) you have turned the lede into a list which is handled better in the filmography. One more thing it is a great idea to use an edit summary to explain what you are doing for the benefit of other editors. MarnetteD|Talk 18:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


For comments at ANI. Sometimes I'm my own worst enemy, but what is done is done. Appreciate you taking a few moments out of your editing time for me. Thanks again! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:56, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome L. Sometimes, when things get too frustrating, I'll type a rude edit summary but then change it to a generic one before hitting the save (er I mean Publish changes) button. It helps a little :-) Best regards and enjoy the rest of your week. MarnetteD|Talk 15:05, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


Actually, only one of the creators is now blocked. I merged it with the versions of the other creator. And it's only a user name soft block. Probably they are one in the same.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the update Dlohcierekim. Looked a bit dodgy so I appreciate you taking the time to fill me in.Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 04:49, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


OK. Why are you stalking me and undoing all my edits? Do you not find it odd that Antigua and Barbuda somehow went by for months without having the Prime Minister listed? 2600:8800:5A80:1394:402B:9598:36A8:D238 (talk) 03:58, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

You have not provided a source for a single edit. Thus they get reverted. MarnetteD|Talk 04:19, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit count[edit]

I see that you have passed John Carter. You may recall six months ago that this was the user who I had to pass in order to climb back to position 163 (I managed this on 11 February 2018 when I actually climbed from 165 to 164). Since then I've fluctuated between 162 and 165; I'm currently at 163. My peak is still 162, and every time that I get there I seem to get busted back to 164 or 165 again by WP:MEATBOTs such as Illegitimate Barrister (talk · contribs) and Red Director (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Redrose64. Thanks for the update and I know what you mean about the meatbot situation. Just think if Ser Amantio stopped editing today and we kept editing at our current pace for another 20 years we'd still be a million edits behind him :-) Enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk


I had reverted you edit on Trickster. MY fault for not finding the relevant section in the article you Wikilinked to about the Philippine animal. I'm sorry about that. Pete unseth (talk) 12:41, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

No worries Pete unseth. I had checked it when the link was added and remembered having to read the whole article to find the trickster reference. In fact your edit gave me a chance to improve the link. Best regards and have a nice weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 15:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Westroads Mall linkrot[edit]

I think you missed one. (Didn't want to just re-tag). MB 16:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks MB. Turns out there were two. Whenever there is anything in the ref tags other than the bare url reFill can't fix it. I'm glad you let me know about this. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:26, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
One you tagged as dead actually works; it just take 5-10 seconds to render the page. I went ahead an used Template:citeweb manually. Thanks. MB 18:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing that MB. When I clicked on the link it ran for nearly 30 seconds and then went to a blank page so I tagged it. I'm glad it worked for you and that you made the needed changes. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 19:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Dracula isn't Supernatural Horror?[edit]

Hey Marnette! Just curious as to why you don't feel Bram Stoker's Dracula should be categorized as supernatural horror? I'd mostly like your rationale because that cat was added to a number of other articles as well, and I'm questioning the appropriateness of it in general based on your revert. To me it would be self-apparent that BSD includes supernatural and horror elements, making the cat appropriate, but I respect your perspective on such matters as well. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 12:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

The answer is in the edit summary Doniago. Per WP:CATVER categories must have sourced info in the article. The only thing I could find was horror. As you know categories (like additions to the body of the article} are made based on sources. I do understand what you are saying so if you can find a WP:RS for supernatural horror please add it and the cat to the article. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I admit I'm the first to rail against WP:BLUE as an argument for not providing sources, but I'll admit in this case my inclination is to say " obviously supernatural!" A Google search for "bram stoker's dracula "supernatural horror"" yielded a few possibly worthwhile hits, but I have to admit I don't really strongly care one way or another; I'm just curious to see whether anyone will raise the question at the article's Talk page, and as the editor who added the cat has had their wrist slapped more than a few times, I guess I'm inclined to try to grant them a little leeway where possible. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 14:48, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Well keep it in the back of your mind D and if anything turns up you can always add it at a later date. MarnetteD|Talk 15:20, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Heh heh. Funny to tag me like that when that's how The King of Vampires tends to sign his correspondence.
Hm. It does seem that film sites tend to categorize it more as "period horror" than "supernatural horror", though...well, I guess if anyone brings it up we can talk about it further. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 15:46, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Speaking of variations on a theme D I'm re-watching Penny Dreadful (TV series). I think it is well written and the acting is top notch. I'm getting more out of it this time around as well. Not everyone's cup iof blood but I thought it worth mentioning in case you haven't seen it. MarnetteD|Talk 15:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Hmm! I may have to check this one out. Horror (gory horror in particular) isn't usually my cup of tea, but this sounds like it might be fun. DonIago (talk) 16:04, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Well the gory moments are very Grand Guignol D but they are balanced with thought provoking passages. I also find that it blends the Victorian horror stories better than most of the other attempts (and there are many now) out there. If you wind up hating it I can but apologize ahead of time. I should add that if you get to season three there is an episode where Rory Kinnear and Eva Green strike acting sparks of each other that is a marvel to behold. MarnetteD|Talk 16:48, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, it's fairly amusing that you're referring me to this series in the same week in which I read my first ever serious review of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which seems to have somewhat similar conceits (I've never seen the film or read the comic). I've wishlisted it on Amazon, so we'll see whether anything comes of it. Thanks for the referral! The last real horror series I watched was True Blood...I made it through the season with the witches, but while I have the next season available I just haven't watched it, and it weighs upon me knowing that the series goes downhill and that the final episode is apparently nothing special. Sad given that the series was conceived by the same person who did Six Feet Under, one of my all time faves featuring a tremendous final episode. DonIago (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2018 (UTC)