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Hello, Martynas Patasius, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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You might be also interested in visiting Wikipedia:WikiProject Lithuania--Lokyz 19:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Leave that Knutux alone ,because he might be a fucking gay from Wilna adn his father russian.

Angry wikiman — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 12:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Calm down. Try to think - what is your objective? To get some changes done in some articles in Lithuanian Wikipedia, or just to insult someone? It is hardly possible to achieve both... Try to write your arguments (politely) in talk pages of respective articles. I still have some hope that a peace plan can be found... --Martynas Patasius 15:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you might be interested and possibly join WikiProject Lithunia --Lokyz 18:01, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Category:Chess openings[edit]

Thanks for your fix to my typo/thinko in Category:Chess openings (Semi-Open Game -> Semi-Closed Game). Quale 01:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Archdiocese of Vilnius[edit]

Sure, go right ahead and do that. I try not to do cut and paste moves, which is why I did as I did. I've been trying to fix some of the problems with the redirects, and every now and again I come across another. Thank you. Benkenobi18 (talk) 21:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Recategorising anon[edit]

Do you think it is the same user as the accused anon?--Lokyz (talk) 23:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes. There is also a Lithuanian version of this account - lt:Naudotojas:Tvarkytojas (lt:Specialus:Contributions/Tvarkytojas). Doesn't seem to be very different from the other socks (lt:Specialus:Contributions/Lianzbergis, lt:Specialus:Contributions/Piktasis, lt:Specialus:Contributions/ etc.)... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
This guy made a huge number of changes within minutes of creating User:Tvarkytojas, including some annoying ones in the church categorization pages which I'm trying to clean up. Can we deal appropriately? Tb (talk) 20:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I see that you managed to clean up nicely. However, I can't think of a good way to solve the long-term problem... Warning him seems to be pointless (he already received many warnings). Discussion also seems to be unlikely to succeed. It's certainly possible to block the user (many of his accounts have been blocked and there is no administrator willing to unblock them, so it could be argued that there is a Community ban), but he will just create another sockpupet... Spotting each of them is relatively easy in the Lithuanian Wikipedia, where simply perodically checking Recent changes page can work, but not here. Watchlisting the probable targets is also hard - he seems to edit almost random articles related to religion, Lithuania, jews, communism, special services and martial arts... There are simply too many of them. Autoblock might help, but not for long, as he changes IPs often... It looks like only informing his ISP hasn't been tried, and I am not sure that it is going to work much better... Whois shows that some of his IP addresses belong to different ISPs - for example, User talk: notes that this address (used, for example, for [1] or [2]) belongs to an Internet Cafe in London... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 00:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
There's now User:T bullshider. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 12:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this is hardly unexpected... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 13:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Request for translation[edit]

I am looking for a Lithuanian speaker to translate a part of a Lithuanian article into English or Polish; it is relevant to a RfC discussion on English Wikipedia. See my request on Polish Wikipedia here. Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Fulfilled.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


Sure, if you wish. But please do it; I prefer to see tags removed if possible.Andycjp (talk) 00:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am not sure I know enough about policies and guidelines used in Wikiquote to do that, so I'd prefer to leave it for the users of Wikiquote... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Battle in Berlin, Polish troops and template in the article.[edit]

Please review the conversation on Talk:Battle in Berlin#Polish troops and consider if the comments after you posted you opinion have changed you mind. Please post you opinion one way or other to the bottom of the section. I do not think that there is a consensus to keep a banner at the top of the page for months on end over this issue, given the opinions of two other editors who are active editors on military history articles. From his last User:Piotrus does not agree. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 13:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


Hi. In the past you have contributed to Orienteering. The article is getting a makeover now; if you would like to help, please see Talk:Orienteering. Thanks. --Una Smith (talk) 20:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Good Evening, please, can you translate in Lithuanian the article Martin Weinek and Kaspar Capparoni? Thanks in advance![edit]

Good evening to you and regards from Campora San Giovanni. I write you regarding the articles of a note police television series: Inspector Rex. For better saying some principal actors of the international series. Martin Weinek and Kaspar Capparoni. Weinek is the veteran of the Austrian series, now real member of the series international, as well as excellent agricultural and theatrical entrepreneur and an experienced wine-grower. Capparoni is the new entry of the series, but he has already worked and he works for international productions and with famous directors, I quote among everybody: Dario Argento. I think that the series will arrive within the winter 2008 thanks also to Rai International, that will be transmitted in 150 countries and in more than 60 languages, among which the Lithuanian. Naturally if you will help me in this, me ricamberò really the favor translating a biography or a geographical article in Italian and Sicilian. In fact on the Italian edition they are biographer and geographer. In attends him of one certain answer of yours I thank you in advance and I greet you from Campora San Giovanni, my village native. Thanks still for the patience and the understanding.--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Helping with articles[edit]

Labas Martynai, you an active editor and your English skills are ok, could you help translating/improving various articles regarding Lithuania its people etc? Starting from these Category:Articles needing translation from Lithuanian Wikipedia, for instance. iki, M.K. (talk) 09:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I will consider the offer, but the said category seems to consist mostly of articles about painters, and, unfortunately, I don't feel qualified to write about them... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 21:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Well there are a lot of work in other areas. What are your main interests? M.K. (talk) 11:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, probably I'll think of something... For example, I'm slowly getting the list of members of Lithuanian Academy of Sciences (lt:Sąrašas:Lietuvos mokslų akademijos nariai) into shape... If the result will seem reasonably good, I might put a translation of it here too... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 22:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
You also may consider improving various articles, listed on WP:LITH. M.K. (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Lithuania–Romania relations[edit]

Can you help find sources for Lithuania–Romania relations? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, some links I managed to find: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]... Not very exciting, but maybe someone will find a use for some of them... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 00:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I wrote a comment at that AFD ([9])... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 17:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
No, I guess I don't feel that strongly one way or another in this case... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 17:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Re Suwalki Agreement[edit]

Hello Martynas - you expressed your thoughts about this article at two noticeboards - your input would be welcome at the talk page. Sincerely, Novickas (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, it did take some time, to say the least, but I did manage to write something ([10])... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 00:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Looking forward to more contributions[edit]

I can see you contributed to "Contracts" article. If you have some spare time would you like to contribute to It is a non-profit law school study guide resource for law school students. Looking forward to your help! Thanks for kind consideration. (talk) 08:07, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

My Sandbox[edit]

Thank you for moving it! I am still trying to get the hang of Wikipedia and all. Have a good day Noeljack (talk) 18:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ebenezer gyasi CSD[edit]

I noticed a question mark after you tagged Ebenezer gyasi for speedy deletion. You were correct, it was indeed an attack page. In the future please be sure to leave a notification of speedy deletion nomination on the user's talk page after tagging the page. This acts as a warning for the user's talk page. Thank you and keep up the great work. Valley2city 21:12, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes, thank you. I actually thought of giving the warning, but I was only "almost certain" that it was an attack page (a part of it made me think that I might have been misunderstanding something) and the wording in the template seemed to be a little too harsh to give it without full certainty... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 21:44, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Not a problem, better safe than sorry. Basically if it sounds negative, is unsourced and is directed against someone (or a group of people) that is specific then it's likely considered an attack page. Keep up the good fight against vandals! Valley2city 05:35, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


I really admire your attempts to introduce principles and rules to various nationalistic agenda driven one day accounts or anonymous IPs. But form my experience I can tell, that it isn't worth efforts and time, as after few days they usually disappear. Better to concentrate free time for the writing new articles. Cheers, M.K. (talk) 20:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Maybe. Anyhow, that did have good side effects: I did manage to find something that looks like a good source describing the "Belarusian" views ([11]). --Martynas Patasius (talk) 15:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


just to be brief, I do apologize. I saw last night that according to WP policy (even if I may not personally totally agree, in that it could be an uptight view by WP, but it still needs to be followed) "some maintain" is considered "weasel"ish... IF NO REFERENCES are given. Which there weren't. So technically what you (and Diannaa) said is true. Sorry about the trouble. The only reason I'm writing you here is because you wrote me on my talk page.... But anyway, it's fine. I was merely making the point that there is another WP policy of NEUTRALITY in wording, and not to have the tone of endorsing a particular view THAT NOT ALL SCHOLARS OR HISTORIANS agree with. Not everyone agrees that the trinity doctrine was formulated even at Nicaea, let alone before Nicaea. Some think that, but not all. Anyway, thanks for your attention to this. It's no sweat. And again..... my apologies. (talk) 03:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry. It would certainly be nice to write who specifically thinks that doctrine of Trinity originated during the First Council of Nicaea and who doesn't. --Martynas Patasius (talk) 19:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Lithuanian Pretenders[edit]

I added them due they are direct desendents of Mindaugas II of Lithuania making them pretenders like other desendents of forer royal families. According to the pretender article the person is a pretender regardles if they dont advance it or acknowledge or not. I fixed it alittle so that it says they are pretenders to the 1918 Kingdom of Lithuania and not the medevil on I had before. Spongie555 (talk) 03:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

(the thread is a reply to [12]) Sorry, but that doesn't look right. First, taking taking assertions "X is a descendant of a former king." and "A descendant of a former king is a pretender." to make a conclusion "X is a pretender." looks like original research (WP:SYNTHESIS to be exact). Second, the assertions themselves do not seem to be supported: it is not entirely clear that "Mindaugas II" was a king (maybe "king elect" would be more exact?) and, of course, no article of Wikipedia can be considered to be a reliable source (furthermore, in the current version - [13] - the statement you mentioned is marked with "citation needed"). Thus, if no reliable source says that someone is a pretender, neither should we. --Martynas Patasius (talk) 21:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

copyright violation[edit]

Hello! On 10th June 2011, about an article "Health-EU Portal", you were mentionning possibility of copyright violations. And then the article got a lot of cuts. I don't know who cut it so much. But if it is you, just to let you know that in betwwen I got the permission for the content. The permission is on file in OTRS ticket # 2011062210004646. Accordingly I restored the text as it was. I am quite new on wikipedia, so if I did something wrong let me know! All the best, Parizellina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parizellina (talkcontribs) 09:18, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Your help needed at RFC/U for Willfults[edit]

Since you've dealt with Willfults in the past, I'd really appreciate your help over at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Willfults. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:52, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I will see what I can do. --Martynas Patasius (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Martynas. Your questions on this topic are stimulating and appreciated. When thinking about guidelines for Fringe Theory, I have a sense of what it is: pseudoscience, astrology, clairvoyance, ufology, popular myths (e.g. Big Foot), levitation, conspiracy theories... spring to mind.

But can you confirm that it also includes climate-change skeptics, complementary medicine like crystal healing, homeopathy, yoga, meditation, pseudo-history, psychotherapy and creationism? I believe it does and it would help me to be able to consider all the fields as they are quite different and lead to many different career paths. Is there a list of fringe theories on WP? Kooky2 (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, many such things are included. No, there is no list as such (as far, as I know). But there is Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard with archives. There are also Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Fringe science and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. It should be possible to find many examples with discussions in such (and related - often linked) places. Hope that helps... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 00:42, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks - I had read about the Pseudoscience arbitration, but it is useful to review those arbitration discussions. I have added them to my watch list. I am surprised there is not a list of fringe theories on WP. I imagine inclusion would be hotly disputed. For example, it's hard to understand how yoga could be included under fringe theory, but I suppose it depends on the claims of the practitioners. Kooky2 (talk) 10:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Progress over at Today's articles for improvement[edit]

I was reading an old conversation you participated in, and I thought I'd mention how much progress has gone on over at Today's articles for improvement. If you missed it, an RFC was held and concensus was established that the TAFI content should be placed below the DYK content. We will be launching the feature on the Main Page shortly, and the Main Page sandbox shows it will look. Participation on the talk page is always welcome. --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:38, 7 February 2013 (UTC)


Say, thanks for your suggestion in the Survey of the Nicaea talk page! That's a great help to me! Evenssteven (talk) 08:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! --Martynas Patasius (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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You are right to question the source. If this is a subject you are interested in then check out this link (p.Lxix)[14]. Coffin text 269 also equates the barley with the Osiris.[15]. Yt95 (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

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