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BASIC splash screen threshold[edit]

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What do you think of this with respect to threshold of originality? czar 17:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Falls below it. Text is not sufficiently creative for protection either. --MASEM (t) 19:44, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Edits of No Man's Sky[edit]

Thanks for your latest edits to the Gameplay section. I realize that NMS is a work in progress, but without your latest qualifiers, a reader would think there's a functioning multiplayer aspect to the game, when we both know there isn't! Ideally, new features will begin to appear! - JeffJonez (talk) 20:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

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For being a light in an otherwise dark corner of the wiki: controversial gaming topics czar 21:33, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Question about your revision[edit]

Revision.

Is that a rule on Wikipedia? If so, can you give me a link to it?

If it is a rule, I’ve no idea why. Why shouldn’t articles show covers as they appear in other countries? They look completely different. I thought that Wikipedia articles should provide as much information as possible.

Currently, without the image I added, the article has only one image.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 00:08, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

You'll want to read WP:NFC and WP:NFCC - basically, WP's goal is to minimize non-free use. Cover art is generally only added to implicitly demonstrate marketing and promotion, and is otherwise non-essential to be displayed, so we restrict the box art to only the first country of release, unless there is something unique about the additional cover art (for example, Ico shows both covers because the second cover was noted to have led to the game's poor sales in NA). Additionally you probably want to review the video game project guidelines that recommend this practice. --MASEM (t) 00:12, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
I see. Thanks.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 02:37, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

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Nomination of List of Sly Cooper characters for deletion[edit]

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P5 edit war (in progress)[edit]

Hi. You know [171.37.45.96], who you reverted on the P5 page? Well, they're not stopping, and their retorts are getting increasingly... pointed. Can you do something? I've tried semi-protecting, but the IP hasn't been editing long enough. --ProtoDrake (talk) 08:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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Discussion[edit]

I apologise if you've grown tired of this debate—which would be very understandable—but I thought I'd notify you that there's another discussion at Jared Taylor about the contentious label/BLPvio in the lede. Zaostao (talk) 16:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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The Witness[edit]

Cold you please explain how are my changes unjustified? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hortonhearsawho (talkcontribs) 12:38, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

You gave no edit summary in changing a term to a negative phrase and removing an image that otherwise meets NFC. That's unjustified. --MASEM (t) 14:11, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ben Feringa, Jean-Pierre Sauvage and Fraser Stoddart[edit]

Gnome globe current event.svg On 8 October 2016, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ben Feringa, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT♦C 13:54, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
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Only 31 hours?[edit]

May I ask you why this vandalism-only account was only blocked for 31 hours? Gestrid (talk) 02:36, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

I would have no problem if it needs to be extended. I was looking to stop clearly disruptive behavior at the immediate time. --MASEM (t) 02:57, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
I would say to indef them because of what their vandalism was: They moved a user's main (and talk) page, moved an article, created a now-G3ed (G3=pure vandalism) page in their sandbox, vandalized another userpage (this time by editing it, not by moving it), and left inappropriate messages on others' user talk pages. Not to mention that their username may or may not be a sexual reference. I'm not the admin here, though, so I'll leave the decision up to you. Gestrid (talk) 03:12, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Good points, I've gone ahead and set it to indef --MASEM (t) 03:15, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

FYI[edit]

User:The Rambling Man/sandbox. More on User talk:The Rambling Man#What exactly is this?. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I've already made it clear to both you and Masem that this exists as a record of the issues I am facing in light of the Arbcom case findings. Why you are forum shopping, I know not. As I said before, you are welcome to edit the page if you deem it an inappropriate record of the things you have said. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Genuine apologies—if you informed Masem about your reasoning for creating the page, I didn't see it. (it wasn't linked in your reply to him at ITN/C that I saw) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:14, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
For the avoidance of doubt, this record will exist and be maintained for as long as bad faith or dubious accusations are levelled at me in light of the recent Arbcom case where any admin can pull the trigger on me for interpreting an edit as "belittling" (and "condescending" certainly counts as the same thing as far as I'm concerned). Claiming that my oppose votes are "very curt and may be demoralizing" is bad faith too. If either of you object to this, please contact Arbcom. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:22, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I was not referring to your specific "oppose", just the general use of that for nominations. I have seen when editors make clear bad faith accusations directed at TRM, and my comment was definitely not one of those. --MASEM (t) 02:56, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 October 2016[edit]

NPOV Hamas Discussion[edit]

Would you consider rejoining the current discussion at NPOV Hamas? The discussion has basically gone off the rails and lost focus, perhaps due to its length, with people coming in and discussing earlier parts of the conversation that no longer seem relevant. The only remaining point of disagreement between Nishidani and myself is on whether to use "Analysts have disputed the designation" or "It is a point of debate in political and academic circles over whether or not to classify Hamas as a terrorist group." Drsmoo (talk) 17:01, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Myst (reverts)[edit]

Hi, you reverted my edit to the Myst article[1], citing "key updates should be noted through secondary/third-party sources". Please don't do that. A revert is a big thing to do to content that has no citation, let alone one that has a perfectly good citation, albeit a primary source. WP:Primary states that "primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care" ... "A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge." Since my paragraph is a simple summary of the patch notes to the game, carrying no opinion, a primary source is fine. To be sure, I have added it back with an additional secondary reference (a Reddit thread with many users describing the changes). --MattGiuca (talk) 10:35, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

First, forum posts are not secondary sources, as they are not reliable sources (see WP:SPS). Second, as patching is a routine part of any digital game release today, it's not just sufficient to say that the patch was released from a primary source (as we are not a WP:NOT#CHANGELOG), but that reliable, secondary sources have made note of the patch and its features to show relevance. For video games, we have a list of reliable sources here WP:VG/S that we can look through but I've not seen any so far talk about this patch. As such, while true information, its not encyclopedic information. --MASEM (t) 13:50, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Nintendo Switch[edit]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone attempt to reject a non-free image based on the future possibility of a free equivalent, rather than present possibility. Does your interpretation of NFCC 1 make the wording "could be created" mean that if a free image can be created in the future, it violates NFCC 1, even if it cannot be created at this specific moment in time? ViperSnake151  Talk  21:59, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

It is a matter of timing. If the Switch wasn't going to be out until 2018, I could see that a non-free would be reasonable for the year+ period that we'd not be able to acquire an image. But we're talking about a unit that will be on consumer shelves by March 2017 (5 months), and a number of potential trade shows and demo units that will come out before that point. A free image will likely be possible before that 5 months, but even 5 months in the future is not that long a wait. This is a rough metric that comes from issues of non-frees for yet-completed buildings of note (where we would allow use of an artist's copyrighted rendition far out from completion, but reject that if the building is close to being done). --MASEM (t) 22:09, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Request for enforcement[edit]

Regarding this edit: did you really mean to say that the behaviour should be condoned? Or did you mean to change the verb to something like "condemned"? isaacl (talk) 19:23, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Odd ping[edit]

For some reason, I got a notification saying you mentioned me in this edit. Weird. Could it be that I was pinged by my own signature? I don't recall that ever happening before though. Lizard (talk) 15:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

I know I had just reverted someone that overwrote that section completely, that might have triggered it. Was not intentional on my part. --MASEM (t) 15:16, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2016 World Series[edit]

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FFD backlog[edit]

Shall I invite you to older but active FFD discussions? Posting your comments to improve consensus would be nice. You posted your views about images of victims whose deaths are the sole article topics, not the victims themselves. I want to invite you one discussion, but I'd like your reply first. --George Ho (talk) 02:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Masem.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

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Video game screenshots[edit]

Hi Masem. Would you mind taking a look at File:Unreal Engine 3 Samaritan Demo Screenshot.jpg, File:Crysis Engine.png, and File:Crysis lighting.jpg when you get the chance and see if their current use is non-free compliant? The two Crysis file are technically {{di-missing article links}}, which sometimes is a simple fix and sometimes is not. Maybe there was a merge, split, or something else and nobody updated the nfurs. The "Crysis lighting" file has also been tagged with {{di-missing some article links}} for First-person shooter engine since February 2011, but nobody has added a nfur. I remember the discussion about type of things and that there is some kind of unwritten exception for allowing one non-free screenshot in addition to the cover art file in the main infobox. The "problem" is that "First person shooter engine" is not really about one specific game, but rather a more general article about these types of games. Anyway, I removed the "Crysis lighting" file from the shooter image article, but decided to see revert to ask you about it. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:52, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Images of ‎Tales of Eternia[edit]

I invite you to the FFD discussion. --George Ho (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

‎File:Bowie HeroesSingle.jpg[edit]

I nominated this image for deletion at FFD. I invite you to improve consensus. --George Ho (talk) 09:20, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

More images at FFD[edit]

Those FFD nominations have been ongoing for months. I invite you to improve consensus:

I would have invited you to Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2016_October_21#File:Alan_kurdi_smiling_playground.jpg earlier before the closure. --George Ho (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Nihonium[edit]

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Amiga ball TOO[edit]

Thoughts on whether File:Boingball.png passes the threshold of originality? Also doubtful the author made the image, given the number of high res images exactly the same: http://mlkshk.com/p/F24L czar 03:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Also on the images in bit Generations? All but the Earth image are likely PD-simple but not sure how they work together as a composition czar 04:24, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Unwatching the page, but if you have a reply please ping me I am no longer watching this pageping if you'd like a response czar 16:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
@Czar: The Amiga ball has originality in the choice of how it was lit for rendering. The bitgeneration images are fine as and particular image appears used in de minimus use. --MASEM (t) 17:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Portal-2-ARG-SSTV-Images.png[edit]

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Civilization VI[edit]

I started a discussion on the talk page, please reply there. --occono (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Eric Garner facebook.jpg[edit]

I invite you to discuss this image at FFD. --George Ho (talk) 12:35, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Request concerning the article Five Nights at Freddy's[edit]

Hello. I managed -thx to hard work and splendid support by co-authors- to win a "worth-to-read"-award for the German version of "Five Nights at Freddy's (FNaF-1)". Unfortunately, I was not able to change the language list so that a lil' star would appear at the German entry. Would you help me with that? Regards;--Dr.Lantis (talk) 21:18, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

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Murders of Alison Parker and Adam Ward[edit]

May I commit blatant meatpuppetry and ask what you think about the new image at Talk:Murders of Alison Parker and Adam Ward? The actual shooting has been removed from the current version.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Premiere Elements (screenshot).png[edit]

Hi.

I think I need an admin's help with File:Premiere Elements (screenshot).png. The current revision is so huge that does a very poor job of complying with WP:NFCC but it is also poorly cropped. However, this file has a past revision that of good size and good crop. This revision is currently hidden.

Can you please unhide this revision, so that I revert to it?

Thanks.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: Done --MASEM (t) 15:06, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch! Face-smile.svgCodename Lisa (talk) 15:08, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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Alan Thicke[edit]

Not of huge importance, and no need to reply, but you mentioned that obits mention his loveboat appearances. The problem with using obits as sources for events preceding a decedent's death is that the source is just as liable to be a lazy journalist cadging from wikipedia. If the Obit names or dates the episodes, that is good. But if it just mentions that he appeared, I don't think it's reliable enough. My reticence in adding such "refs" is not laziness on my part. μηδείς (talk) 04:20, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Fair point about cyclic sourcing, though I would argue that the type of sources that were reporting on his death (WashPost in this case) we generally can assume that that's not going to be the case. But there's also always a source like TV Guide too [2] --MASEM (t) 04:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I think he's stale at this point, but it is a shame Thicke didn't have more of a constituency here. I only ever heard of him on ads for debt relief on talk radio. Interesting to know that TV Guide does still have that info archivable. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 04:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Nintendo Switch SoC[edit]

Hello Masem,

I see that you in good faith reverted my inclusion of the Nintendo Switch SoC specs. I have begun a section on the talk page as I disagree with the exclusion of this information. A similar discussion has occurred previously, in an RfC here, and I believe it to be a reasonable compromise to include specs unreleased by the manufacturer but confirmed by secondary sources.

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Extended confirmed protection policy RfC[edit]

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Characters of Overwatch[edit]

Hello! I want to ask you to please be more discrete with rolling back large edits, if possible. The edit you last rolled back contained not only the content in question, but several other small changes as well, including more precise wording all around the page, some slight disambiguations, Sombra's real name, etc. In addition to that I would want to ask you on what criteria are sources separated into reliable and unreliable. In our current example, guides written by members of the competitive community and verified by a professional player were considered unreliable, while a Polygon guide, which is both superficial and outdated at the moment, is considered reliable. I would like to stress that those websites (icy-veins.com, metabomb.net) are not "wiki-style", as user cannot interact with the guides or edit them, they are published as-is. Another question I would like to pose is why only the Tracer gameplay part was removed from the article, while the strategies for another offense characters were left intact. Initially, Genji was the only character whose part had gameplay tips, and this is what initially drove me to try and add similar entries for the remaining characters. Please understand that I bear no hostility and neither am I trying to start an edit war, I am only trying to get a better understanding of the wiki rules and guidelines, which may often appear contradictory. English is also not my primary language. Thanks in advance! Zhnigo (talk) 19:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

@Zhnigo, for reliable sources, see the video game reliable sources custom Google search. (The first link gives much more information on what constitutes a reliable source.) Feel free to expand the other sections to be similar to the Genji section—reduce the in-fictional universe plot, add more real-world information, such as how the character plays in the game or is important in the game's strategy, but use reliable sources to do so. The Genji sources apply to the other characters too. Icy Veins doesn't have a reputation for editorial oversight or fact-checking, as a newspaper, magazine, or professional blog would. That's why we wouldn't use it as a reliable source. czar 19:34, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
In addition to what Czar said, the only reason I had removed that on Tracer was that in adding about the LGBT reveal (which has been discussed in a LOT of sources and still is a point of discussion), the strategy was completely unsourced. The Genji example needs to be "populated" to the rest of the article, that will just take time, but in general as noted it needs to focus less on the fiction and more on sourced content. --MASEM (t) 21:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

FYI[edit]

As an FYI and follow up to your most recent comments at the Sharon Tate talk page, thought you would be interested in knowing what's currently happening at Commons regarding the same issue: [3]. -- WV 14:42, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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Question about talk page refactoring[edit]

Hello, Masem. I believe that I know the answer, but I would like a second opinion: on wp:Village pump (policy)#On WP:ACCURACY, WP:NPOV, & Photographs vs Paintings & Drawings, I have obviously upset the original poster with refactoring his images. I believe that I am within the bounds of WP:RTP and chose the least-disruptive option. I'd like your thoughts on whether that was correct or not. Thanks in advance. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I would agree you are correct at least in collapsing the images. You're not refactoring their words, simply fixing up the page format that is more appropriate for all. --MASEM (t) 18:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your opinion. I don't think I should go back and change it again just for the sake of civility, but I appreciate the endorsement. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:32, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I cited your NORN response[edit]

Hi, thanks for responding to my question at NORN. Just so you know, I have cited your response here in a debate at Talk:Jacob Barnett#Source support for lack of publishing/vetting. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 01:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

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Combative user[edit]

Are we to just sit and take the conduct that User:Cassianto is displaying on Talk:Stanley Kubrick? I'm normally not one to tattle, but I've never seen someone so confrontational and hostile on Wikipedia. Certainly the majority of it could be considered personal attacks/harassment. His block log shows this is a recurring pattern. Is this something I would have to take to ANI? Because I'd rather not unless I really had to. Lizard (talk) 07:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Help[edit]

Please help me, I don't want to get block on Wikipedia.--Marlo Jonesa (talk) 19:13, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Third opinion[edit]

Thank you and the other administrator adamstom97 for the brief comments you placed in the Talk section. Within a few hours, the other editor who had been deleting my revisions made some significant edits, in the direction I was hoping. (Clarifying the differences in cast and plot between Season 1 and 2).

It was not what either of you said on the Talk page. It was the visibility of two independent editors taking a fresh look, making it clear that others were involved in the dispute.

Much of the content of this article was written by the editor with whom I was having a dispute. I came to the article much later and made some revisions. Initially, he disagreed with every single change. A proprietary attitude, in my opinion.

While the dispute was troubling, Wikipedia readers benefit from the outcome: a more accurate article. This Wikipedia:3O feature should be more widely publicized to editors.

All the best! Peter K Burian (talk) 03:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Sigh[edit]

At some point the Jewish issue really needs to have some people removed from it. The archives at WP:BLPN are full of this crap. Dropping out of AN now as its beating a dead horse. Only in death does duty end (talk) 18:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

IP 75.66.218.186[edit]

Hi Masem. Happy New Year to you and yours!

I saw that you undid this edit made by IP 75.66.218.186. The same IP appears to have added their email address to User talk:75.66.218.186 and I am wondering is that is something which needs to be removed or revdel. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:51, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Attempted Category Removal[edit]

There is a dispute as to whether or not "Steam Machine" is a console for the purposes of exclusivity listing on Xbox games. The prior consensus, including on the Eighth_generation_of_video_game_consoles is that it is. The user in question is attempting to remove the category/console reference calling it "unsourced" to hamper my attempts to correct the exclusivity of games that are available on the Steam Machine console/Xbox One 75.119.245.130 (talk) 17:39, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

RD: Graham Taylor[edit]

Was wondering if you could take another look at the article? It's not a GA, but after going through it I think it's now at the necessary standard for ITN. StillWaitingForConnection (talk) 17:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Images in 1984 (Van Halen album)[edit]

Masem, I asked the GA nominator for this album article to find more images, and they've supplied a scan of the back cover. I don't think that 1) that's an appropriate fair use, or that 2) there's really any way to fix it absent specific critical commentary on that portion of the cover itself, which I have not seen. Can you double check me on this? I want to be sure before rejecting what another editor has tried to do. Jclemens (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

yes, that appears to fail NFCC with additional sourced commentary. --MASEM (t) 19:31, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

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Stupid question[edit]

That has been bugging me for awhile, is there a guideline somewhere about why games listed in 'Year XXXX in video gaming' articles are listed by their JPN release date? As a purely informative issue, surely the NA/EU dates are more appropriate for ENWP? Only in death does duty end (talk) 15:08, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I imagine the convention would be to list the first release date, wherever it is in the world. And for most of video gaming history, games were released first in Japan. The WordsmithTalk to me 15:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
That's my understanding too. It's consistency with past articles. --MASEM (t) 15:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
I think I notice this inconsistancy more than some, as I treat the 201X articles as a shopping list for the upcoming year. To lead on from the above example: Digimon World: Next Order was out in Japan in March 2016, the EU on the 27th Jan (I know I bought it - disappointing compared to the last offering) but the release date is 31st Jan from NA. So for consistency, this should be in the 2016 in Video Gaming article, not 2017. (The previous game, Cyber Sleuth, was out in Feb 2016 but released in JP a year earlier again in 2015) Only in death does duty end (talk) 10:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Which board[edit]

Did you mean FT/N or BLP/N? RivertorchFIREWATER 22:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

BLP/N. --MASEM (t) 22:11, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I hadn't refreshed the page. Ideally, the user who posted to BLP/N would have mentioned doing so at Talk:Mehmet Oz. RivertorchFIREWATER 06:07, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

WP:OKOR[edit]

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Quebec shouting[edit]

Hi,

I don't understand what is the problem exactly, please.

--Ghabila (talk) 06:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Please look at the talk page discussion: lists of victims of mass shootings/etc. are not appropriate encyclopedic content. --MASEM (t) 07:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Quebec City mosque shooting[edit]

I'm looking for direction on this issue... I have previously fought for the inclusion of suspects names as can be seen here and have taken knowledge from this discussion. I feel like the names in these cases should be included, as they are widely disceminated by the media, yet the policy doesn't seem to align with that. I am trying to edit within policy and do my best to "enforce" it as an editor, but I don't know how to proceed in this matter. There seems to be a blanket disregard for this policy in general, as can be seen on 2017 Fort Lauderdale airport shooting, Shooting of Benjamin Marconi, 2016 New York and New Jersey bombings, 2016 Russell Square stabbing, and Franklin Regional High School stabbing. As well as was the case previously on other pages such as Dylann Roof, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, and others. I just don't know what to do, and I'm looking for guidance.  {MordeKyle  22:56, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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Closure request[edit]

I'm not sure if this counts as canvassing and involved administrator or not, but you were the only mop-holder brave or patient enough to wade into this mess. It aged off the main AN without any closure, and there is now a closure request open for 30 days. Can I ask you to kindly put this zombie of a thread out of its misery? Thanks in advance. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:53, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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Opinion[edit]

Maybe a third one? There is a disagreement concerning keeping/removing sources here. I hold the view that when adequate sources say that the Open Society Foundations has donated money to Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, there is no reason to remove them. Even if it's just in the name of transparency. It should even be less of a problem when one of the sources is Open Society Foundations webpage documenting it's donation. I humbly await your reply, but no hurry IBestEditor (talk) 02:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@IBestEditor: I don't know the situation 100%, but this seems like it might be better to add text saying "According to X, the organization has received donations...." particularly if the donation information is not publicly available (I don't know if that's the case). But given the use of the same publications you have used to source that are used through the rest of the article, I can't see any issue with retaining that information. (it also seems odd when that leaves behind that critical statement that is based on the donation aspects). --MASEM (t) 23:14, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

FAC mentor? for Tracer[edit]

Hey! So, I've been wanting to promote Tracer (Overwatch) to a featured article status for a while now. It's just a feeling I have with this particular article, and it'd be my first time going through this process. So, I went reading through the FAC process and it encourages first-timers to seek a mentor. Seeing how you're listed as one, and seeing how you've been super active on the main Overwatch article (which by the way I think we should nominate for GA-status soon), as well as other articles related to the game, I was wondering if you'd help me out with this FAC process? I'd be happy to listen to any feedback. Thanks for your help! :) Soulbust (talk) 08:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Soulbust: I can definitely with the guidance for that. The first thing that's probably more useful at this point is to get a copyedit on the article (which is always taken as a plus at FAC) which you can request from WP:LOCE. Three other quick points that I see on a 5-minute look:
  • Make sure the references are consistent. For example, some link to the publication, some don't. Whether you do or don't is a matter of taste but it needs to be consistent. Also make sure that publications are consistently formatted (italics).
  • The 3rd image (from the short) might be dinged as an unnecessary NFC image. Her infobox is fine, the posing controversy shot is clearly okay because that was a subject of discussion, but that last image seems unnecessary. IF you can support it better (articles discussing her look in the short) that would help.
  • I know I added about the LGBT stuff when it was revealed, but I didn't really follow up on that to see how if Blizzard was praised for adding that (knowing how this industry works). You might want to look around for that.
Finally, just double check that you have similar formats to other FA character articles from the VG project. I think you do, but it's been a while since I worked on a character FA so I don't know 100%. --MASEM (t) 15:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the tips & help. I'll be copy+pasting this discussion onto the Tracer talk page for reference. Soulbust (talk) 06:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

The EERE Article![edit]

Hey there! I just saw that you brought the EERE draft more up to Wikipedia's standards and added the updated information to the page. I just wanted to thank you for doing so much work on that. I really appreciate it! (Also, it's nice that the budget information isn't 9 years out of date anymore!) Thanks so much! Es2017 (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

EDP[edit]

Thanks for your research. The big problem is that before my edit, both pages claimed to be the EDP, which obviously isn't right. Would you mind removing this claim from NFC? It might also help if you added a short footnote in the NFC intro explaining the situation, lest someone else see the link at the WMF page and repeat my mistake. Nyttend (talk) 01:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

@Nyttend: I have just reworded the lede on WP:NFC to make the distinction, adding the key work "currently" as that way, the incoming link from WMF isn't "wrong" just outdated. --MASEM (t) 01:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I got no notification, but when I saw that I didn't have a rollback link in my contributions, I figured you'd responded. What do you think of this note? I'm not un-hiding it without hearing someone else's opinion. Nyttend (talk) 01:37, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
PS, my note could really use a link to Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_18#This_page_needs_to_be_renamed. (thanks for providing it), and also, a ping doesn't work unless you add a link to your userpage or user talk page in the same edit. Nyttend (talk) 01:40, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm thinking this addendum should go on WP:NFCC itself so that it appears (effectively) in both places. It's not super critical information but good to document on the policy/guideline page on the history, so even a footnote would be sufficient. --MASEM (t) 01:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I wasn't clear: my idea was to add a footnote. Sorry that I didn't make this obvious the first time. And I agree that appearing in both places would help. Nyttend (talk) 02:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
@Nyttend: okay, I did edit that in a while ago in NFCC (so that it transcludes into NFC). --MASEM (t) 03:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Follow up on Tracer's images[edit]

Okay so I added the reference consistency in regards to linking, as well as the follow-ups on her queer reveal. I'm looking around for a source that talks about her physical features in that Alive short and can't find one right now.

Do you think it would be better if we get a picture of her in the comic? Specifically of the panel where she kisses Emily, as I've added a sourced line about the panel. Thanks for the help. Soulbust (talk) 05:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Side note: I'll be requesting the copyedit of the article from LOCE within a couple to a few days. Soulbust (talk) 05:01, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

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Non-free SVG uploads[edit]

Hi. I have a question about uploading non-free SVG files. My understanding is that in order to upload an SVG version of a copyrighted image, the SVG file must come directly from the copyright holder. For example, if a company posts an SVG version of its copyrighted logo on its official website, I could upload a copy of that SVG file (assuming all other non-free criteria are met). However, if a company posts a PNG version of its logo instead, I could not convert the PNG version to SVG, and then upload the new SVG version. Do I have this right? Thanks. Levdr1lp / talk 09:22, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

@Levdr1lp: That's correct, you can't attempt to recreate a PNG logo as an SVG excluding the cases of simple wordmark logos which fall under the PD-ineligible clause due to being too simple. --MASEM (t) 14:28, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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Non-free SVG files[edit]

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Just list it at FFD noting it is a self-created derivative work of the non-free logo and thus not acceptable on en-wiki under NFCC. --MASEM (t) 14:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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WP:MOSFICT[edit]

WP:MOSFICT has become insanely bloated (though it was probably a little overwrought back then because we had way more conflicting opinions). I started work on it. Lots of those article examples aren't even featured anymore due to the change in standards, and people kept adding their favorite wikis to the external links. Needs more lovin'. —Deckiller (t-c-l) 01:21, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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