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Barnstar[edit]

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I hearby award you the barnstar for spending a great deal of time helping me with my user page. Thanks! Thorpe | talk 21:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks (BSG People Template)[edit]

Hey, thanks for the help with the BSG people template. Crito2161 00:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The 4400 season finale[edit]

I've just seen the season finale, and am updating many of the pages to match. Don't go looking at recent edit histories if you haven't seen it yet. Travisl 02:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The 4400[edit]

Nice edits on The 4400 and its related pages. Thanks! Travisl 15:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

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Attributions for image uploads[edit]

I've noted several images you have uploaded have been attributed as source to you and author to you [1][2][3]. Thanks for attempting to identify the source, but this is not accurate. The source of the images are the TV shows in question, and the author is the creators of the show. The first half of the sentence at Image:Medium -- 1x16.jpg where it says "This is a screencap from episde #1x16 of the tv series Medium" is sufficient as it indicates what the source is and the author is inferred as the creators of the show. All the best, --Durin 19:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Stating you as the source is copyright improper. You are not the source; the show is. You are not the author of the image. The creators of the show is. It's a matter of definition. You can say you created the screencap if you like, but you are not the source of the image or the author. --Durin 20:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I've made a change to one of the images you uploaded to provide a guiding sample. All the best, --Durin 20:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

User page image[edit]

No problem at all. I know it was too large, and I've been meaning to get around to resizing it, but I just kept forgetting. Thanks. ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 20:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Knowing how to do it was never the problem. The problem was getting around to it! Remember the top ten rules for procrastination? Neither do I. I never got around to reading them. :) ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 20:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
By the way, Your User page says you like Stargate, Dead Like Me, Doctor who, Harry Potter, The 4400, and all those other Sci-fi things. If you were a woman I'd marry you right here and now. ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 20:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I figured you were male, since not many women are named Matthew. And, yes, I do like BSG, from the first film to the present, but not Galactica 1980 (YUCK!). And did I mention that Grace Park is totally hot? ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 20:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. samswicegood@comcast.net ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 20:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

C4[edit]

We get S4C and channel 4. So the O.C. is on about 3 times a week in Wales, including E4. We get Channel 4 through Digital, so on sky digital 104 is S4C and 117 is channel 4, but in the rest of the UK 104 is channel 4. Ryan2807 16:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion[edit]

Please stop deleting sections. It is considered vandalism.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwebby91 (talkcontribs)

Thank you, I am aware; that begs the question of that section is even necessary, considering ALL of the characters have their own pages. Why do we need that extra description if we can condense it into one short section that links to all the characters? Jwebby91 18:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm adding a new section, not violating any rules. You're deleting my helpful section, therefore there's no cause for you to report me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwebby91 (talkcontribs)
Isn't the information in that section repeating all the information on the pages that were created FOR those characters? I think so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwebby91 (talkcontribs)
Alright, so couldn't you make a section that gives the background of the show by incorporating all the characters? In more of a paragraph format, I mean? Almost all TV shows on Wikipedia have character sections in the format that I outlined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwebby91 (talkcontribs)
So.. leave my section until other people object... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwebby91 (talkcontribs)

Martha[edit]

Done. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 14:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Almost speedyable, but the Xth-in-line-to-the-throne is arguably a claim of notability. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Prison Break template[edit]

Hi. I created the template because I didn't like the episode chronology section. Earlier, the episode chronology was stated twice one with a link to the "list of episodes" and one without. Also, it had both the previous and next episodes on the same line that made some of the infoboxes look cluttered because of their long titles. I also realised the original television template had a colour attribute but I was mainly annoyed with the episode chronology part but didn't want to go and edit that in the "infobox television" template since there are a lot of articles using it. Do you think it is a better idea to have "previous" and "next" episodes on separate lines? -- Ladida 00:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

That's cool. Thanks for telling me about it. Regards, Ladida 23:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Just got your message. That's fine, whatever you think works best. -- Ladida 11:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Name[edit]

My name really is Ryan :o -- Ryan2807 17:57 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Template[edit]

You shouldn't be implementing the colour system without discussion, as I said. ed g2stalk 22:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I reverted you within a day of you first adding it. That should alert you to the fact that your proposal was one that required discussion, and not something that could go through straight away. That it went unnoticed for a week after that does not mean it has to go through. Furthermore you have accused me of "violating policy" in an edit summary, what policy is that? The template has been working fine for months before you added the colours, and it will continue to work without them until you get a consensus to start using them. ed g2stalk 23:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
If you're going to be pick, it was just over a day and a half. Another user on the talk page objected. And stop claiming that because it was on the page for a few days, that makes it the status quo. The undisputed state of the template is how it was before your controversial edit. You want to implement this feature, so you get the consensus. ed g2stalk 23:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
The changes I just made are syntactical. They change neither the appearance nor behaviour of the template. Nor have they been challenged. If you think there are grounds to challenge my last edit, please elighten me... ed g2stalk 23:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm making major changes!? The template has been without parameters for month if not years! You've added them over the last few days hence it is up to you to get a consensus to add them. And I'd love to see where Wikipedia encourages the pointless addition of vaguely topic-connected colouring to pages... ed g2stalk 23:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

"Take advantage" does not mean use all the time, even when unnecessary. Inline colouring of text has many drawbacks related to accessibility. You can't just come along and change the long-standing appearance of a high-use template without discussion. ed g2stalk 23:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No, applying colour to inline text when it is not necessary is Bad. What looks good on the monobook skin may not look good another skin, or visually impaired users who have their browsers set up with a specified colours for suitable contrast. Furthermore the reason we use a skin at all is to give pages a consistent look. If we start colouring pages by topic just for aesthetic reasons, we'll end up looking like myspace. This may be acceptable on users pages, but the article space is supposed to look professional. ed g2stalk 23:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

"If a concensous says remove then so be it, but it should be left there till then." - on what grounds? You can't just come along and change the long-standing appearance of a high-use template without discussion. ed g2stalk 00:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The 4400 characters[edit]

Hi Matthew, I thought I would let you know that I moved your 4400 character pages to new names, Tom Baldwin, Diana Skouris and so on. Wikipedia standard is to use the simplest name possible if there aren't any other clashes. I have fixed most of the links. Regards -- Chuq 03:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: BSG Box[edit]

Naw. I don't like it as much as just the BSG. Shane (talk/contrib) 16:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Skin[edit]

I'd just like to point out that not everyone uses Monobook. I think it's horribly ugly, for instance, and stick with Classic. DS 19:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Inappropriate warnings[edit]

Hello. Could you avoid using inappropriate edit summaries that accuse genuine editors of vandalism. [4] As you well know, AGF. Disagreeing with your changes doesn't make them a vandal. The JPStalk to me 09:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the edit history, this is the first time i've used the vandalism summary. I've used restore, rollback and Revert Good Faith, he continues to revert which causes disruption to the pages and messes up pages and so i have had to use the vandalism revert and req. protection. Matthew Fenton (Talk | Contribs) 09:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Ed isn't causing disruption to the pages: he's just disagreeing with your plans. There's no reason why your version should stay over the version that was there. I have asked an associated project for discussion to get informed outside views. Tho' I appreciate your logic (you want to use a colour associated with a partiuclar show in the infobox) Ed's reasons about professionalism and accessibility seem sensible. The JPStalk to me 09:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC) P.S. There's no need to relpy on my talk page because I'm watching yours. It's easier for third parties to keep track of a discussion if it's all in one place.
Okay np. Also i agree Ed can object, however it his manner in which he objects. I'm trying to gather concensous and reverting causes disruption to the template and hundreds of other pages. I'm also tring to implement his ideas, if he could converse and refrain from reverting we could gather concensous. Matthew Fenton (Talk | Contribs) 09:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Sceptre[edit]

Hello. Someone may want to look here specificly "particularly spiteful email attacking Sergeant Snopake and I, twisting my words, just being a total dick" -- Blocking users for personal issues outside wikipedia should not be done as it is an abuse of power.

It seems inapropriate to block a user for a disgareement (not on wikipedia) over something he could potetioaly be making up. Matthew Fenton (Talk | Contribs) 10:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

This is already being discussed at the admin noticeboard...thread beginning here and it appears that the issue is being handled by the Foundation or arbcom anyway.--MONGO 10:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Moved to your talk page as WP:OFFICE is taking care of it, there is already a thread at AN, and too much already said about this. Hope you understand. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 10:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Agent Marco[edit]

I think we're typing over each other this morning. You've done so much good work on The 4400 pages, I'll let you make the final decision as to whether Marco's an "agent" or not. I added my reference to the discussion page as you were looking for it. Travisl 16:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

LOL; just saw your rv. Thanks. Travisl 16:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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WP:AN/3RR[edit]

Thanks for your 3RR report. I reviewed things and suggest no blocks at this time (I'm sure AMIB is aware of 3RR), and that you guys try to reach consensus on the relevant talk page before further revisions to the template. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 12:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Entourage[edit]

Yes it's one of the best comedies on TV right now. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  13:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Article[edit]

Forget already? I didn't, Star Trek: Enterprise alleged continuity problems. When I questioned that article you left more than one response filled with hostility and insults.--Crossmr 16:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure if necessary we can have an admin temporarliy undelete the talk page of that article.--Crossmr 16:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
No need, Crossmr. If you know how to click around, discussions are still out there and available. See Talk:Star_Trek:_Enterprise_alleged_continuity_problems. -- PKtm 16:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Only cause I undeleted it first :P I've also protected it. The JPStalk to me 17:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
If it's going to be undeleted, can we have the third AfD added to the talk page? Powers T 19:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Farscape[edit]

"Production" has a distinct meaning in the television industry. Production and filming do not have to take place in anywhere near the same location. DS 16:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

I don't know if my last message got through or not so here goes.

Thanks for updating the rename request for the Daedalus class ship page.

Faris b 08:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit warring with popups[edit]

I warned you that I'd block you if you edit warred with popups again, and you went and did it, in this edit. Please come back tomorrow, after your block has expired, to continue the discussion on Template talk:Infobox Television episode. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 11:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


Protected page[edit]

MF asked after I reviewed the block for an editor not involved in the dispute to review the block. I am not involved in the dispute (and Redvers has reviewed it now anyway). I really suggest MF should take time away from the project, or review his RfC. To prove I am not "abusing" admin privilages, I will not edit the templates currently in dispute during the block. The JPStalk to me 11:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

  • User:Insanity13 has asked me to review the block on User:MatthewFenton. I have reviewed the original block, The JPS's comments and my own and find no reason to lift the block. I suggest that MF use the time to gain a sense of perspective about this matter. I am uninvolved in this dispute, have never edited and will never edit the templates currently in dispute. ЯEDVERS 12:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Page is semi-protected to allow MF to discuss his recent block. --Thorpe | talk 13:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

NX-01[edit]

Right, I thought about that... BUT, the ISS Enterprise is also in the category, so... ;) Besides, categories are ultimately about user utility. See, there is a category named "Ships named Enterprise." In deference to real sailors, the Star Trek ships are a sub-cat of this. NX-01 needs to be in that sub-cat -- if that means that we need to rename the sub-cat to Enterprise Ships (Star Trek) to be technically correct, then we'll have to do that, I guess. Best wishes, Xoloz 16:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Email[edit]

Got your e-mail on my blackberry. Happy to see that, as usual, I'm late and everything's been resolved :) -- Samir धर्म 17:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Heh, whats a blackberry? MatthewFenton (talkcontribs) 17:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


Re:Prison Break[edit]

Definitely! :) I can't wait! Though neither of us can watch it on TV 'til later. :( By the way, about your earlier message, I hope you don't mind if I don't enter that debate. My opinion may be considered biased since I created the Prison Break episode infobox. I think I'll let you guys and the other administrators reach a consensus about this. Sorry. Anyway, hope you have a nice day. :) Ladida 11:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Next year, I'm not quite sure. -- Ladida 11:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I think someone mentioned that it starts in early 2007 in England. How's the weather? Ladida 11:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Me too! I love winter and hate summer, which is weird for an Australian. :) Ladida 11:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
ARGH! I've been autoblocked! So I had to wait a while before I could answer. It was actually quite cold last week. But yesterday, it reached 24 degrees celcius. Today wasn't that cold either. Spring is coming. Sigh. -- Ladida 11:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Some vandalist was using the same IP address as me. Sigh! grrr.... I hate sharing the same IP addresses with them. -- Ladida 11:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
My IP address changes every few minutes. I am not sure about my ISP's handling of IP addresses. Ladida 11:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


Re: Asgard Vessel[edit]

Aye, the tail fins are precisely what I noticed during the recap. It's odd that a number of sites out there do call it a science vessel, or just "ship"; I don't recall finding any that explicitly call it an O'Neill. I'm just glad they showed that particular battle scene during the 200th Episode Special. -- Huntster T@C 15:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

D'anna Biers[edit]

See Talk:Number Three and Talk:Number Three/temp. I look forward to working with you :) — Philwelch t 03:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Survey about merging Battlestar Galactica articles[edit]

Hi, feel free to provide your input at the survey: [5] Dionyseus 07:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Why I can only assume that Sue Anne has nothing but bad and/or no faith in me[edit]

Here's why I felt that Sue Anne only assumed bad faith on me:

Talk 1: Many of your edits, in my opinion, cross the line when it comes to cruft and throwing in your opinions and/or personal wording to things

Saying "Cross the line" is somewhat a colloquial term and/or cliche that shouldn't be used. I'm not sure if that should be used in an article, but why do people use "Cross the line" because to me, that sound like a bit too extreme and harsh.

Talk 2: Saying "Trumped"

This is also extremely harsh criticism and/or having either bad or no faith whatsoever. Some of the words in my talk page I will really think that the user has either bad or no faith if his/her choice of wording tends to lead to me believing that the user has either bad or no faith.

Considering that Sue Anne has either bad or no faith at all, I had to start debating the use of caps at the discussion "Manual of Style--Capital Letters" as I have to debate the use of caps because my style of using caps is different than others. Please feel free to comment what you need to comment at the provided link discussion. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 14:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

:)[edit]

you're so cool. Jwebby91 21:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Well he's a hard-working editor who makes lots of useful additions and suggestions to the project. So I TOTALLY agree with you - Matthew is pretty cool. --Charlesknight 21:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Face-smile.svg! MatthewFenton (talkcontribs) 21:17, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I think this is what I was thinking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mentorship

so I guess in your situation, you need to find someone you are happy with as a mentor and see if they are willing to act in that capacity. --Charlesknight 21:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Celebrity[edit]

Having originally designed the Infobox Company and Infobox Celebrity templates, the templates were not designed with entertainment in mind. In fact, the celebrity infobox was primarily designed for any celebrity in any field, including business, such as Bill Gates. The "preferred" style is that which has been achieved through consensus for Infobox Company. Adraeus 21:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

1. No optional variables have been "broken". I've tested the template on several articles, including Bill Gates.
2. The 3RR limits users to three reverts. I'm well-acquainted with that rule...
3. By the way, placing the name inside the infobox is considered nonstandard and bad form.
Adraeus 21:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that [bgcolor] was a variable. I'll review my changes. Adraeus 21:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Per your request, I've listed and described the changes committed to the template in more detail at Template talk:Infobox Celebrity. Adraeus 22:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


Yu-Gi-Oh! GX media and release information[edit]

My you please protect Yu-Gi-Oh! GX media and release information there is a edit war going on (72.177.68.38 01:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC))

BSG WIki Update[edit]

We have updated the site look. Check it out. Shane (talk/contrib) 06:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== If you have the time ==[edit]

Matthew, if you have the time, could you do me a favour and have a look at my edits on this [page. As you can see this [editor] is unhappy about my changes. So they have gone and done [this]. (scroll down until you see my name).

As far as I can see, all of my edits have removed material that really does not below in an encyclopedia - however if you don't feel that's the case, give it to me both barrels, as I have done to you a couple of times Face-smile.svg

--Charlesknight 09:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

It's all good clean fun[edit]

You might want to head back over to the Adminstrator noticeboard where you are currently being painted as my henchmen. --Charlesknight 11:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


Don't worry about it - the only two people it would affect would be me and him - in addition because he's not followed any of the guidance of what you need to do before you go there, it would get tossed out on it's arse.


--Charlesknight 14:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

The 4400 Infobox[edit]

I like the new The 4400 infobox, but think that the teal-on-turquoise font color for the title and Episode chronology is a tiny bit hard to read. If the font were a shade darker, I think it would work better.

Also, the image caption should be a smaller font, to match those used in standard images in Wikipedia.

With your extensive TV show edits, you probably know better than I do, but it'd be nice to have the episode number on one line ("Episode 3.7" or "3x07") instead of the current two ("Season 3< br >Episode 7"). Travisl 16:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Much nicer caption size. Thanks! Travisl 16:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Looking great. I made one minor change, linking The 4400 in the title of the infobox. Travisl 18:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Also, FWIW, I created redirects from Haspelcorp and promicin. Travisl 18:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't give promicin its own article; it definitely warrants its own section on The 4400 (which it has), but I don't know that it would ever be more than a stub. I don't think it's capitalized. Nine out of the 12 mentions of it at [6] have it lower-case, and one of the capitalized was in the (wrongly?) capitalized phrase "Promicin Scandal". Beyond that, it's a generic name, not a brand name. Although we capitalize the brand names of Tylenol, Advil, and Amoxil, we don't capitalize the generic drug names of acetaminophen (paracetamol), ibuprofen, and amoxicillin. Travisl 19:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

My talkpage.[edit]

Thanks! I've been trying to figure out how to do that. :) Iorek85 11:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Haspel Corporation[edit]

MatthewFenton and Shannernanner, could you take a look at and improve Haspel Corporation? Matthew, as the screenshot guru, can you grab a frame from the last 60 seconds of "Graduation Day" for the page?

Also, Matthew, you asked me yesterday if you thought promicin should have its own page. I've thought about it for the last day, and have changed my mind; it probably should.

Thanks again to both of you for your work on The 4400 pages. Travisl 22:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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The 4400 pages looking good[edit]

Yup, they're starting to flesh out nicely. After tomorrow's episode, we'll have another nine months to work on them before any new episodes come out. Travisl 09:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Adoption[edit]

Thanks for your help on the Adoption article! Bastun 10:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

User:MatthewFenton/sandbox[edit]

Deleted as requested.  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  13:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

User:MatthewFenton/sandbox[edit]

Deleted as requested.  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  13:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Msn[edit]

Yes I use it - why what's up?

--Charlesknight 16:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Msn[edit]

Yes I use it - why what's up?

--Charlesknight 16:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

xfiles template[edit]

Why do you keep reverting my changes without explanation back to the way you constructed it? WP:OWN? -- Wikipedical 17:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

But why do you insist that 'The Album' stay at 'related' when it is named XFiles: The Album, just like XFiles: The Game? -- Wikipedical 17:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

xfiles template[edit]

Why do you keep reverting my changes without explanation back to the way you constructed it? WP:OWN? -- Wikipedical 17:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

But why do you insist that 'The Album' stay at 'related' when it is named XFiles: The Album, just like XFiles: The Game? -- Wikipedical 17:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


User page[edit]

Please, could you refrain from editing my user page again in the future?. I'll update the links myself when I see it fit. --Andromeda 19:27, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

As far as articles go, I have no problem with that. But that's my user page, and have you stopped to think I may have it that way for some reason? I think editing an user page is rude, even if it's not against rules. --Andromeda 19:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, I don't think it was a favour. I don't go around Wikipedia changing user pages, no matter how much they irk me or hurt my eyes, and I expect the same courtesy. Do not everyone sees the world your way. --Andromeda 19:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Sheesh, Matthew--WHY do you keep seeking out conflict? Editing someone else's user page, uninvited, is rude. Go get a second opinion on this, rather than just stick to your guns. This is why you have an RfC, and this is why people have suggested that you get yourself a mentor. -- PKtm 19:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I think you need to get savvy to the situation, i was updating redirects. Eventually a bot would of done it anyway. Much nicer to have a human do it. thanks/MatthewFenton (talkcontribs) 19:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
That's not the question. The question is that is my user page and therefore I can have whatever I wish there. --Andromeda 19:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Whatever, i honestly cannot be botherd, if you are scared people will edit your page then request protection. You also need to WP:AGF, as i believed i was doing you a favour updating non-existant pages; Also for future reference: WP:OWN (PS: You can't have porn ;-)) thanks/MatthewFenton (talkcontribs) 19:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not scared of anyone, I'm just asking for courtesy. And if I wasn't assuming good faith, I would have done something else than asking you politely. You don't need to quote me that page again, I already answered to you above. Please, stay away from my user page. Thanks. --Andromeda 19:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Did you ever consider asking people not to edit the userpage? Your telling me to be courteus, yet you have not left an implicit message and scalding me for doing you a favour. thanks/MatthewFenton (talkcontribs) 19:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

4400 screen caps, wikiproject[edit]

No problem at all with replacing the screen caps. I don't have the capability of grabbing those myself, so I pulled them off of the usanetwork.com pages. I appreciate the consistency. Not jerk-like at all. And thanks for including me in the WikiProject. Travisl 17:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: pictures of minor characters: Either we should include pictures for all of them, or pictures for none. As we don't have pictures available for some of them, it'd probably be best to not have pictures, or to include them as part of the episode (e.g., as you did with Carl Morrisey) or escalate them to another category on The 4400 of "Recurring Characters" and give them their own page (e.g., April Skouris, Tess Doerner, Heather Tobey, and Gary Navarro) Travisl 17:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
How about this classification split:
  • Major characters: They're listed in the opening credits of any season, while "A Place in Time" is playing. They get listed on The 4400 and get their own page (e.g., Maia). Does Megalyn Echikunwoke appear in the opening credits? She should.
  • Frequently recurring characters: They've been in four or more episodes or have great significance to the plot in multiple episodes. They get listed on The 4400 and may get their own page (e.g., Tess, Kyle, Marco)
  • Other recurring characters: They've been in three or more episodes but don't have great plot significance in more than one episode (e.g. Heather Tobey, Matthew Ross)
  • List of The 4400 minor characters: Everyone else, like the 4400-of-the-week or Captain Obvious the NTAC Agent
This will require a bit of rework to The 4400 page. If this sounds good, let's move it to the WikiProject. Travisl 19:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Not an attack[edit]

I'm sorry you perceived my comment to User:Andromeda as an attack. All I did was advise him that I thought it was pointless to try to convince you that it is rude to edit someone's user talk page without invitation. And I directed him to your RfC. That's the last I will have to say on the matter, other than to note that you're proving my point (and everyone else's point). Find a mentor, guy, as I and other more experienced editors have repeatedly advised you to do. -- PKtm 17:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Everything OK Matthew? let me know if you want to chat about this. --Charlesknight 17:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

And she's grateful for the advice. Thank you. And you're right, PKtm. --Andromeda 17:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

What?[edit]

"Hi. Please use the upload a new version of this file instead of creating a new file each time, thanks."

How am I suppose to do that it won't let me, it creates a new file instead (with a 2 at the end).

and yes I'm a n00d at this.

can't find it[edit]

"Click on the image you wish to upload a new file for: - Scroll down to "File History" - Underneath will be some text saying "Upload a new version of this file"

Then upload your file and edit image sumamry accordingly"

the file I want to update doesn't say that anywhere, even using the Searching function to find it.

EDIT: And besides uploading the updated image using the same name as the original doesn't allow me to update it, forcing me to create a whole new page for the image.

Screencap of Stargate[edit]

How do you get all of the print screens of Stargate when I hit print screen I can’t get a picture. It goes black when I save it. I have tried downloading print screen softwhere but it has the same problem. Ideas? Nathan nfm 03:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The O.C.[edit]

Sorry about the link. I didn't realized that that was "spam" even though the link was about the show and stuff. Oh well, it doesn't matter. About the link. I was scrolling upwards, and my mouse accidently clicked, and I tried to fix it. I thought I put the right number. Sorry if I wrecked it. I'm a bit tired, so maybe I should get off, and edit at a more appropriate time. :-) My deepest apologizes though.--andrew 09:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Never knew about Ctrl Z. I will bare that in mind well editing though. I'll try to be more careful though when I'm tired. andrew 09:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rose Garden[edit]

Sure, no problem. I'll be heading back to school after Labour Day anyhow, so plenty of opportunities for me to take a photo either before or during that time. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 17:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

As a side note, if you ever visit the Vancouver area, the garden's worth checking out. It's pretty stunning. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 17:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Reverts[edit]

I assume you are speaking of the Daedalus class ship page article, if so, I reverted the changes of user 83.157.119.6 because this is a person who only edited this on a whim for no reason, also, those other stats have been there a while without any provocation from anyone so it's just the case of an anonymous user changing things arbitrarily.

Faris b 22:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rose Garden[edit]

There is a pic of the Rose Garden available for use at the University of British Columbia article. I'm not sure if you want to use it though; the colours are really off there (problem with lighting contrast levels). I'll take some Rose Garden photos anyway though, trying to avoid those contrast problems. (I'm thinking of taking a panorama shot, similar to the one I did yesterday for White Rock.) So I guess you can use the existing pic in the meantime while I go out and try to get better shots... -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 00:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rose Garden[edit]

There is a pic of the Rose Garden available for use at the University of British Columbia article. I'm not sure if you want to use it though; the colours are really off there (problem with lighting contrast levels). I'll take some Rose Garden photos anyway though, trying to avoid those contrast problems. (I'm thinking of taking a panorama shot, similar to the one I did yesterday for White Rock.) So I guess you can use the existing pic in the meantime while I go out and try to get better shots... -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 00:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rose Garden[edit]

There is a pic of the Rose Garden available for use at the University of British Columbia article. I'm not sure if you want to use it though; the colours are really off there (problem with lighting contrast levels). I'll take some Rose Garden photos anyway though, trying to avoid those contrast problems. (I'm thinking of taking a panorama shot, similar to the one I did yesterday for White Rock.) So I guess you can use the existing pic in the meantime while I go out and try to get better shots... -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 00:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

List of Sliders episodes[edit]

I am thinking about changing table for List of Sliders episodes. I saw that you've been doing something similar. I want to make it like List of That's So Raven episodes or List of Smallville episodes. Do you mind? - Peregrinefisher 19:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

List of Sliders episodes[edit]

I am thinking about changing table for List of Sliders episodes. I saw that you've been doing something similar. I want to make it like List of That's So Raven episodes or List of Smallville episodes. Do you mind? - Peregrinefisher 19:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I added the table for the first season. If you want to help, you could add tables, short summaries or writers/directors (imdb,tv.com). - Peregrinefisher 20:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:DSA[edit]

Ah, ok. I thought it actually existed in the Andromeda universe. I will prod it for you. Let's see if anyone objects. --Fang Aili talk 21:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Starship[edit]

Perhaps you could just merge all relevant info into a more general article and create a redirect. That would save you time with the AfD and all. --Fang Aili talk 21:27, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rose Garden pics[edit]

Thank you. I got lucky though; it was supposed to rain today and I was thinking of waiting until Friday to get my textbooks. But the weather decided to cooperate -- too good an opportunity to pass up. :) They were filming Psych near the Chan Centre today too. -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 08:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I'm trying to hunt down the HaspelCorp location. By its architecture, I think it might be somewhere on campus too. My hunch is one of the Faculty of Forestry buildings (like the Forest Sciences Centre). As for NTAC, I also have a hunch on where the exteriors might be (the interiors are obviously studio-filmed). As a side note, you may recognize some of the university's buildings from Smallville, if you watch that show; it stands in for Metropolis University. Very popular location, the university, especially in a film city like Vancouver. -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 08:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Vancouver's awesome, especially its film industry. I'm a full-time student, but I work as a film and television extra (or, as they call us, "background performer") on the side. Smallville's an awesome show; I've asked my extras agent to see if she can get me on that show. But I think The 4400 will always have a place in my heart, because my first-ever job as an extra came on that show, in a scene with Andrew Airlie and Laura Allen. Very memorable. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 08:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, thanks for the barnstar! That was unexpected. :) And yeah... Laura Allen was super nice. Andrew Airlie was a little pissed at the weather that day (it was alternating between sun and cloud, causing chaos for the camera crew, who need consistant lighting for the shots). If you have a good memory, it's the scene when Lily assures Brian that she, Richard and Isabelle are fine and haven't been infected with the promicin sickness, and Brian offers to help anyway he can. I'm the blue-helmeted cyclist who whizzes by him. :) Anyways, I'm going to bed. Thanks again. -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 09:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
You can try. I'm a blur. :D -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 09:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't be rude[edit]

Don't be rude. You know very well that when someone makes a suggestion it's usually because they don't have time to implement it, especially when that suggestion is for hundreds of episode pages. You also know that I am working on Smallville, and requesting that those that mainly edit the Simpsons, Stargate, South Park, and the OC to tidy up their pages is more responsible than doing it myself. For one thing, I don't watch those shows and really don't have a clue on where to find good information for them. No one has taken the time to properly educate the other users on how to adequately and properly develop an episode article. You were part of the same discussion I was and the subject of how all these other articles are wrong came up many times, but yet you didn't take it upon yourself to inform the usual editors of those pages about the problem. Next time please use a bit of civility and etiquette when someone lists a problem with a page. If they aren't making the changes themselves it's usually because they don't have the time and resources available to do so, but that doesn't mean that it should go unchecked. Thank you Bignole 13:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The O.C.[edit]

Well, not all people consider adding legitimate links spamming, but I guess if it's bothering you so much that it's not up to your quality of O.C. web sites, I'll never touch the article again. Since the site deals with television, and is not some crappy fan site, I thought it would count as a link. Oh well. --andrew 08:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

MSN[edit]

Check your e-mail for my MSN. I won't be online, as it's 2am and I want to sleep, but you can add me. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 09:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

the DVD cover image..[edit]

i am so sorry, i meant to write a comment explaining why i did so but i stupidly forgot that the popups revert doesn't let you do that after i clicked it out of habbit :#.. what i was going to say is that the svg image has awfully lower quality than the png one and its background is opaque not transparent so it's not much to look at.. --PASSIVE (Talk|E-Mail) 11:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

DSX (Andromeda)[edit]

It looks great. Good job. --Fang Aili talk 21:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:161477.jpg[edit]

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:161477.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Liftarn 08:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Stargate Atlantis "gallery"[edit]

You keep deleting this, but it's not a gallery, it's just one pic. How could you have a gellry of just one pic? Also WP:FU says nothing about galleries. Tobyk777 16:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Jericho[edit]

I recommend that the next time a user responds to your actions by discontinuing interest in an article you might want to provide a less curt response and maybe foster continued interest in the article and Wikipedia as a whole. WP:BITE. Trivia exists all over Wikipedia, killing this article's trivia section is obviously not top on the list to go. I also disagree with both of your edits (wh was the episode guide nixed?), and have reverted the blanking. For one, the non-existence of a Jericho, KS, and the existence of a Jericho, KS at one time, are both of interest to the article, as there is obviously no Jericho, Kansas to link to. - BalthCat 08:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see the navbox now. - BalthCat 08:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Dark image, the 4400[edit]

Any chance you can lighten up this image, 100px, or find another one? It's too dark for anyone not really, really familiar with that scene to tell what's going on. Travisl 22:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going through your updates now (I've been offline over this last weekend's Labor Day holiday), and like where they're going. Travisl 22:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Yup - great content on Wake Up Call (The 4400 episode) and the others. I hope you don't mind me going in and tweaking them like I have been. I haven't been "americanizing" some of the British English spellings I've seen, except I changed "mummy" to "mommy" because it was a quote from a (fictionally) american character. Should I be, seeing that it's a US-produced TV show taking place in the US? I vaguely recall that wiki-policy is to leave it spelled however it was first used in the article, but I'm not certain of that. Oh, and the new image is much better! Travisl 20:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


MyWikiBiz.com and WP:CORP[edit]

Matthew, thanks for putting MyWikiBiz.com up for AfD. Better that it sees the light of day, and discussion is had. Just so you know, I wasn't directing my comment about "failing WP:CORP" to you. I was referring more to the folks who either (a) said that they vote Delete, "per the nominator" (do they not know the meaning of Abstain?), or (b) said that they vote Delete, "per WP:CORP". I find that people who swing that around often haven't actually read it lately, if ever. --MyWikiBiz 16:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Some unsolicited advice (usually the only kind worth a damn)[edit]

You're just asking for headaches with this crusade against articles on the nobility. It seems you have other more productive interests here, so I'm not really sure why you've been unable to let it go. I hope it's not some personal vendetta against me (comments like this one make me wonder) because I don't even participate in those discussions (or even pay attention to most of them). I know you were frustrated in our discussion, and I'm sorry about that.

This is clearly something you feel strongly about, but you're bashing your head against a brick wall. I did something similar a long time ago, and I'm glad I moved on. In my case, it was getting rid of articles about minor characters in The Shield and The Sopranos. Consensus was actually on my side in those cases, and I was able to make the changes I wanted, but it was still an uphill struggle. Yours is even more hopeless, because you don't have any of the support that I had. The fact of the matter is that most people feel that even minor members of a royal family are at least as notable as, say, Marco Pacella who (being fictional) has never done anything.

A lot of great contributors enjoy trivial subjects on Wikipedia. Let's be honest: chances are, almost everyone who spends hours on end editing an Internet encyclopedia has at least a little geek in him. Some of them like Star Wars, some like The Sopranos, some like the 4400, some like Dragon Ball Z, some like Magic cards, and some like the nobility. Most of them also do good work editing elsewhere, fighting vandalism, working on Featured Articles, and writing about important real-life subjects. Crusading to stamp out any subject only means we're alienating those fans, and when we do that we lose great editors. Let people have their niche interests, whether it be Nina Jarvis or Princess Luisa Maria. Nobody gets hurt, and everyone wins. Kafziel 23:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Caption[edit]

What do you mean "at the time it was taken it was Earth"? That image was taken in July from an episode most likely "The Seige", I did see the image history and I checked it and both images are 100% the same, so did you change it just to have it your way? What is the point of that? Plus, I must assume it was taken from www.stargatecaps.com, they don't even have pics from last night's ep yet and the Daedalus has NEVER been shown in Earth orbit before.

Why are you trying to say you are right? This image was taken from "The Seige" which would make it a pic of it orbiting Atlantis, not Earth.

Faris b 19:58, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I see what you're trying to do, you're trying to change the pic and it's not working properly, I'm getting the old pic still. Also, that pic was used for the Odyssey in "Off the Grid". Please leave the image alone, the old one is a better shot of it.

Also, what do you mean don't post in the archive? I tried your "leave me a mesage" thing and it doesn't work.

Faris b 20:01, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Seth[edit]

Then just call him something like a "geek" which I am fairly sure he has been called before, don't just completely revert a new person's edit. J.J. 18:33, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


Infobox actor[edit]

The after-effects are fixed. And you're not the best one to critique anyone for a small mistake. You heavily broke {{Stargate race}} not so long ago. So lose the condescending tone. --Andromeda 23:14, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

TV infobox[edit]

In reference to the removal of former website, what if it has 2 websites; its new one and its old one?? godgoddingham 333 16:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not dead tho. The old TV channel still broadcasts old episodes and updates its website, but the show's new channel shows new episodes. godgoddingham 333
No. Say you have a TV program broadcast on Fox. It has its own Fox website. Then the program moves to ABC with its own ABC website. ABC show new episodes whilst Fox replays old ones. However both still keep their websites and so it has 2 official websites. godgoddingham 333 17:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism at science fiction[edit]

Sorry I was offline when you asked for help, but it looks like it was taken care of. I'm highly dubious about the "brothers" argument, but if "they" can fix the "bug" that was damaging the article, I hope that a consensus can be reached about the paragraph "they" were concerned about. However, if the "bug" is not resolved I'll block both accounts for longer periods. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 00:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Stargate Atlantis 3x04[edit]

RE: "rp - prev. has no source & author info + cap already at Sateda article." Just for the record, there is a source and author, if you would read the Rationale. Furthermore, my screenshot was there first with a post tag of 00:56, 5 August 2006 and yours was 07:08, 5 August 2006. On top of that, you broke the established Licensing Standard convention. Your also not supposed to insert screenshots on the individual episode pages. Insertion into the main article, automatically causes the image to be inserted into the individual episode template. This page clearly shows that my image was there before yours, so your reasoning is not justified by saying that it was "already at Sateda article." I'm reverting the change. -therearenospoons 19:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I recognise no policy + Your image had no source. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 19:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

RTA: Rationale. If you read it, you would have seen it. -therearenospoons 19:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

PS: Mine is superior to yours in that it is smaller and shows a key moment in the episode. (PSS: Please do not be offended i changed your image ;-)) Matthew Fenton (contribs) 19:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
PSSS: It still does not establish a source. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 19:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: PS: If you think so then why didn't you state it instead of stating some blatant lie about it not being there. Say what you mean, and not do what you do not say. Lies have no basis. RE: PSSS: I disagree. It couldn't be anymore clearer. If you look at all the Stargate SG-1 screenshots, you will see that none go out and state that. The fact that SG-1 is a Featured List article proves that it is necessary and sufficient. All Stargate Atlantis episodes as well as Stargate SG-1 episode screenshots have the same exact licensing except with appropriate references to their article. For you to go out and change it, you are changing the established convention, therefore making the entire article inconsistent. -therearenospoons 20:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Look at Satedas history, there was no image there when i edited. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 20:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah? What is this then? and this: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5026/proofll9.jpg -therearenospoons 20:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

If you wish to change it for that reason, change it, but state that you believe it "shows a key moment in the episode" and not some for "has no source & author info + cap already at Sateda article." I'm fine with that as long as it's truthful :) but don't go trying to give others a bad name by not checking the histories :( -therearenospoons 20:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

That is the SGA intro image, you must not have much idea on how wiki works. When you edit "List of.." etc, the image doesnt automaticly get placed in the episode article. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 20:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Also look here as an example. You do not see my name in the edit history anywhere, but you do see the screenshot. How did it appear? It can only appear from pulling from the List of Stargate Atlantis episodes. I rest my case. -therearenospoons 20:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek Series[edit]

Okay, if you want to include the animated series then please correct the year from 1987 to whenever the animated series started. KennyLucius 19:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion[edit]

Regarding the article Image:Fotos010.jpg, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "Nn person", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because only articles about non-notable people can be eligible for speedy deletion, not photographs. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the WP:IFD process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

vitsoe[edit]

I see you tagged the vitsoe article as copyvio ... which it is, but did you also follow the instruction in the template and add it to the discussion page? -- Wirelain 15:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. (my error) -- Wirelain 15:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion Log from June 9th on article How to Build a Cat 5 Cable[edit]

Hello Matthew,

I would like to know what the reasons were behind your deleting "How to Build a Cat 5 Cable" article that I posted? I personally did not write it, but it was written from someone in my company, and I was posting it here. It is also posted on both of our websites. www.cat-5-cable.com/building-cat-5-cable.html and www.comtradcables.com/cat-5-cable/cat-5-cable.aspx. If you could please list your reasoning behind this action, I would appreciate it.

Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)[edit]

Hi Matthew. I'm a little confused as to who you changed the link on the Sci Fi Channel in the Battlestar Galactica article to point to scifi as a general article rather than the channel. I'm presuming it was just a slip and I've fixed it. Ben W Bell talk 09:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

That's not a problem, I figured it was just a slip and not deliberate (ignore the edit comment I choose the wrong one from my list). I took the oppurtunity to update it to Sci Fi Channel (which is how they spell themselves these days) and link it to the Sci Fi Channel (United States) page. Ben W Bell talk 10:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Vietnam/Heaven[edit]

Hello, I have completely re-written this article, and asserted notabilty. Please visit the page, and revisit your nomination and delete vote. Thanks! Aguerriero (talk) 17:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Any suggestions on the new name? I had a great idea to see what they did for the album Solitude/Solitaire, but of course... that one is wrong too. Aguerriero (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Done. Named it Vietnam and Heaven since it is a combination of both those LPs. Thanks! Aguerriero (talk) 18:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

SciFi to SF[edit]

Why?

  1. Because scifi is a gross insult to my intelligence, and yours too if you are a fan of sf. As a science fiction fan I am not interested in "scifi", and neither is anyone else who knows anything more than a little about the genre. To refer to science fiction as "scifi" is like referring to model railways as "choo-choos". It is a major insult and shouldn't be used by people who should know better - such as Wikipedia editors. Note that there was previously a page called Sci-Fi which explained all this - it now appears to be a redirect, sadly.
  2. Everywhere else on the page, the term used as an abbreviation for science fiction is SF - and Wikipedia pages should be consistent. If SF is used on one part the page, it should be used on the whole page.

Please don't use the appalling term "scifi" again. Grutness...wha? 08:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

  • perhaps it's one of those "different countries, different rules" things, but I have seen real fist-flying fights started by someone suggesting someone is into sci-fi. Grutness...wha? 12:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you do.[edit]

Hi Matthew, yes I am called David Kendal. I do know you, but i'm not sure where from. Davidpk212 15:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

My category[edit]

The category I made is supposed to be for users with the {{User AAAA}} template on their page. User page categories are by nature unencyclopedic. But I guess you can delete it if you really want to. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 18:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism warning[edit]

Accusing other editors of vandalism when you know it isn't is uncivil. Please conduct yourself with a little more maturity. ed g2stalk 15:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. --bainer (talk) 16:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Warning without meaning[edit]

Please keep in mind that warning without any meaning is considered vandalism and uncivil. Please keep that in mind before you start stalking users because of their behaviour. ed g2s has been in arguments with me before aswell, but warning for something that he believes is policy is not the way to go, I would rather you take part in Wikipedia:Fair use by telling us why screenshots and the like should be allowed on Wikipedia. This message was given to you and Larsinio. Havok (T/C/c) 16:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

He believes that screenshots of games should have a "political commentary" to be used in articles. I've e-mail BradPatrick about how illegal it is to have the screenshots there. Until then, just leave it. And I would still suggest you two check out fair use. Havok (T/C/c) 16:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.--PKtm 16:13, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I ment critical commentary ofcourse. Havok (T/C/c) 16:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Reverts to Lost[edit]

There has been a long debate at Talk:List_of_Lost_episodes/Use_of_images where our policy has been clarified numerous times. Your edits to that article, and your vandalism warnings are disruptive, and I urge you to stop before you get blocked. ed g2stalk 16:13, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: List of Lost episodes[edit]

Regarding your defense of "I'd only reverted twice" on the List of Lost episodes page: Um, yes, you had in fact already reverted to the screenshot version three times, and were clearly on the road (with all the Star Trek "shields at full" rhetoric in your edit comments) to more. Specifically:

12:30, 27 June 2006 MatthewFenton (Talk | contribs) (readd screenies s01 -- unless you can provide a valid reason why there not fair use then they stay! (Shields at full. Ready main rail guns. Ready all missile batteries.))
14:06, 27 June 2006 MatthewFenton (Talk | contribs) (rv -- unless you can provide a valid reason why there not fair use then they stay! (Shields at full. Ready main rail guns. Ready all missile batteries.)
16:00, 27 June 2006 MatthewFenton (Talk | contribs) (rv - 2nd)

In this case, you've now managed, through rhetoric and testosterone, to get the page protected. Not good. "Poking the bear" is not a successful Wikipedia approach. -- PKtm 04:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. But, you misunderstand the WP:3RR policy. Inserting the same basic stuff three times (the screenshots, which had been removed many times before) constitutes three reverts. Please review the policy. I also saw your note to another user, where you wrote, "Yea, I'd already thought about that on my 2nd or third rv i'm going to make a minor text mod thus its not a revert :) ". You can't game the system in this manner, Matthew. -- PKtm 15:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Matthew, thanks again for your reply, and your spirited defense. However, you're not getting my point. Please see WP:3RR, where it states,

Reverting, in this context, means undoing the actions of another editor or other editors in whole or part. It does not necessarily mean taking a previous version from history and editing that. A revert may involve as little as adding or deleting a few words or even one word. Even if you are making other changes at the same time, continually undoing other editors' work counts as reverting. "Complex partial reverts" refer to reverts that remove or re-add only some of the disputed material while adding new material at the same time, which is often done in an effort to disguise the reverting. This type of edit counts toward 3RR, regardless of the editor's intention.

"I added them my self" is not an excuse. They were reverts. -- PKtm 23:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: William Gaines[edit]

Why did you revert my edit of the article on William Gaines? I corrected two spelling errors. You have restored the errors. (Please reply here and not on my Talk page, so that other Wikipedians can follow the conversation.) Pat Berry 15:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. My software i was using flagged it as possible vandalism and i had a quick look it looked like someone had been throwing in <no wikis>, It was my mistake and ill restore your version now. Sorry. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 16:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Pat Berry 16:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:4400.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading a reduced-resolution version of the image. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 14:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: links[edit]

Hey buddy, Its not your job to decide which links are suitable for the "External Links" section of the Windows Live Messenger page, if your going to remove all "unofficial" pages then atleast be consistent and remove those outdated MSNPiki and Hypothetic MSN protocol pages (yes, most the information on the websites is years old) both of which are totally unofficial. MessUnit.com might not be an official blog but it sure as hell has up to date information on WLM - unlike this wiki. (I would sign my name but I have no idea how - O-B-Trice)

Please remove your false claim to be an admin[edit]

I noticed you inserted a userbox on your user page, claiming to be a Wikipedia administrator. Please remove it. Thanks. -- PKtm 22:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Userbox[edit]

If you'll give me a moment, I'm in the middle of writing a reply on the talk page... — sjorford++ 16:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

3 RR[edit]

You've reported someone for breaking the 3RR rules. Reverting 3 times IS allowed; it's that 4th reversion that breaks the rule, and I don't see that the 4th has happened. Joyous! | Talk 16:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Stop throwing your weight about, please[edit]

I notice that you have asked at least one person to remove Image:Admin mop.PNG from their user-page. Since it was an integral part of their SUBSTituted Admin Userbox, this would appear to be a continuation of your failed attempt to have this image removed from {{User wikipedia/Administrator}}. Please stop this at once. Any further messing about in this vein will be seen as disruption and as such blockable under the blocking policy. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 17:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

warning that more changes to template will be considered vandalism[edit]

It appears that you have a personal issue with the Template:User wikipedia/Administrator template and its image, having used the template to falsely claim to be an administrator on your user page.[7] You removed the image when another editor called you on this.[8] Exactly 27 minutes after being called on using this template, you brought this template up for deletion and then, when that failed by a speedy keep decision, tried to have the template's image removed. This is definately a case of WP:POINT and, since consensus on the template's image has been reached, if you revert the template image again that will be considered vandalism. I hope you won't do this. Best,--Alabamaboy 17:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

This info wasn't all in the discussion. If you read the above info, it also tells you not to revert that image again or that will be considered vandalism. The info also tells other editors what the situation is with regards to you editing this template. Best,--Alabamaboy 17:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Another way of seeing the issue might be that since admins are the only ones to consistently use the image, they were the one to notice when you changed the image. Personally, I'd let this one go. You seem like a good editor and pursuing WP:POINT issues like this will only tick other editors off. Best,--Alabamaboy 18:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


Administrators, I need your help with MatthewFenton[edit]

Matthew Fenton is not letting me add a link to the MessUnit (http://messunit.com) unnoficcial Windows Live Messenger blog to the Windows Live Messenger page, he claims that im "link spamming" but it's only one site and its much more relevant than several of the other external links, I asked that if he was going to remove my link he should atleast be consistent and remove the link to the Hypothetic MSN Protocol site, because I know for a fact that that site only covers the much older MSN Messenger protocols and hasn't been updated for about 2 years!!! There are also links to several other unofficial sites like Mess.be and MSNPiki - both of which are sites for MSN Messenger and not Windows Live Messenger. This is clearly a case of favoritism. He is enforcing rules that don't exist, and if they do exist hes only enforcing them on the sites he dosn't like.

I am new to Wikipedia and I would appreciate your help. O-B-Trice

Sorry[edit]

I didn't know the incident was so serious. In the future just rv and tell me to go away. :) Ohh, I guess the user doesn't like you much for listing their site for deletion. Hehe. Annoying spammers! :( --Andeh 10:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I re-added them in hope of your forgiveness.--Andeh 10:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope your report wasn't copyrighted, because I plagiarised it. :-D --Andeh 10:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
MessUnit relisted at AfD. :)--Andeh 14:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Well there weren't really enough votes for an admin to close it, so it's relisted on todays page. :)--Andeh 14:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
It's gone :Þ.--Andeh 14:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

User page[edit]

Please, refrain from editing my userpage in the future. If a page moves, I'll change the link myself. --Andromeda 21:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Atlantis[edit]

I don't think they mean the same thing. "Stargate Atlantis personnel" makes it seems if the page includes all the people that appear in the series, whereas the list only includes the Earth-born characters permanently stationed in Atlantis or the Daedalus. Perhaps the name can be changed, but that one was not correct, in my view. --Andromeda 13:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they may work. Why don't you comment in the page talk page to see what other people thinks? --Andromeda 14:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR[edit]

you are in danger of breaking 3 revert rule on Windows Live Messenger. Please stop and seek consensus now. Philc TECI 21:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

However I would like to point out, as a neutral point, galleries of fair use images is copyright violation, as for the other accuations you have made, I am not in a position to comment. Philc TECI 21:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Good good, hope thats problem solved. Philc TECI 21:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Windows Messenger[edit]

You can't freely license those images as Microsoft owns the copyright on the GUI. ed g2stalk 21:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I shall refer you to this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:Fair_use#Rights_given. ed g2stalk 21:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I refer you again to the above discussion. ed g2stalk 21:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Then feel free to list it at WP:PUI. ed g2stalk 21:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I will unprotect the page soon, but if you restore the gallery again you will be blocked. ed g2stalk 22:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

My MSN[edit]

webmaster@davidkendal.me.uk is my MSN address. Davidpk212 21:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Unblock request[edit]

So a user who very rarely edits suddenly turn up from one of those breaks and starts reverting in an edit war to the same version with the same edit summary as another user in that war. Seems a pretty transparent case of sockpuppetry to me,as indeed the blocking admin also felt. --pgk(talk) 16:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't need to do an IP check, sockpuppetry is normally determined by behviour, IP checking is not foolproof it can add weight to a claim of sockpuppetry if found positive, but if found negative does not disprove sockpuppetry. The blocking admin saw traits of sockpuppetry, I looked independantly and reached the same conclusion. --pgk(talk) 16:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
OK so you asked him to do it, so he's a meatpuppet then, that's still a sockpuppet. --pgk(talk) 16:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
You might also like to read gaming the system, and WP:3RR#Intent_of_the_policy. 3RR is to stop edit warring, doing an number of reverts then asking a friend to continue the war is against the intent of the policy, to stop disruption caused by edit warring, it is in essence gaming the system. If it had been know at the time that he was joining in on your behalf you would both have been blocked. --pgk(talk) 16:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Personally I am not willing to unblock since I wasn't responsible for blocking in the first place. I suggest you leave a note for the blocking admin an ask them to look into it. --pgk(talk) 16:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Your revert in Shane McKenzie[edit]

Regarding this revert to Shane McKenzie, I can see why you reverted (the "sayings" part), but I think the edits were done in good faith. Andjam 02:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)



Image:WLM 80787 Final.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:WLM 80787 Final.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Thorpe | talk 12:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I have since provided source information in my recently uploaded image and it is now used in the Windows Live Messenger article (replaced your image). So, I have removed your notices on the image page. --Thorpe | talk 12:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I realised that when you said the image (PNG) was taken by you. Did not know you uploaded new version. If you look in the history of Image:WLM.PNG you'll notice I did know. --Thorpe | talk 13:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:No attack intended[edit]

It's good. You are improving which I have nothing against. --Thorpe | talk 23:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

BSG Wiki[edit]

HEre is a cat you might want to join: Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Battlestar Wiki --FBISeal.png Shane (talk/contrib) 18:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Why did you remove the BSG logo from the Userbox? It didnt have the text BSG in order to differentiate bwetween just liking the series and actually contributing to the wiki. I have reverted it back as you left no reasson in the edit history for this change. If there is some kind of rule against having logos in userboxes please leave a note on my userpage explaining it. Thanks --Mercifull 09:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note but who did you speak to about it? --Mercifull 10:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Personal attacks[edit]

It's unfortunate that you feel that I am attacking British English and fascists, etc. Both of them are meant strictly to be humorous. Plus, the Brit?American English one is informative. I will gladly remove the one about fascists etc after I write this, it doesn't bother me to do so, but I believe that insinuating that the Brit English usebox is a 'personal attack' is a stretch, as 1)it's a dialect and 2)the personal attacks userbox applies to users. I don't feel that I have insulted anyone with it, or maybe you're the first. Please let me know if it honestly bothers you -Bri 20:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Revert to cleanup[edit]

Why did you revert it, the new version was working fine? Matthew Fenton (contribs) 18:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

For the cleanup templates, we standardised on the blue colour scheme quite some time ago. (We actually have it written into the site's CSS.) I attempted to integrate this into Cwolfsheep's code, but I was unsuccessful. —David Levy 19:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

July 2006[edit]

Main Space[edit]

Daedalus missiles[edit]

Hey, Regarding your revision of the Daedalus article, you said that it was never stated that the Missiles mk number was using Roman numerals. True though, but I think that it should be reverted back to the way it was. It's pretty much a standard to name those things in the Roman numerals and since Stargate/Atlantis have military advisors, I'm assuming that they would follow suit.

--Faris b 10:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Replied! (See user talk[9]) Matthew Fenton (contribs)
Ok, I see your point now. I may be wrong but I figured most people know the Roman numerals, I do. -- Faris b 20:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Really? Interesting. I guess it's a family-centered thing, my family knows them as do I. Thanks for clearing it up. -- Faris b 20:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Replied! (See user talk[10]) Matthew Fenton (contribs)

Image Space[edit]

Re: Ori Fighters[edit]

Why do you keep changing the images to yours? The images I provided are Fair Use and they are far better than the ones you keep changing them too. Konman72 01:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The url isn't working because their site is temporarily down. Try it again in a few minutes and it will work fine. I'm changing it back and you have no reason to change it back to your own so please stop. Konman72 10:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
"An act of war" are you insane? The image is from stargatecaps.com. Check the main url, the site is down. I have already changed the image, at least wait a while until the site is working. Check out this google search to prove that the site exists...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=stargatecaps.com&btnG=Google+Search
If you click the link now it will not work but if you wait until they get back up then go to "SG-1" then "Season 10" then "Flesh and Blood" and you will find it. Konman72 10:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW, my aim is to get the best picture, not my own. So if you can take screenshots then just take one of the scene I am using and I will stop changing the picture. In the one you keep using you can't even see the fighter, which is the whole point Konman72 10:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

That pic is great, works for me. I understand wanting to show the battle, but the entry is about the fighter...which you can't even see in that pic lol. Sorry to have gotten into an edit war with you but it seemed like you were just wanting to push your picture into the article, the one now works great in my opinion, so I'll mark mine for deletion. Konman72 11:11, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry I noticed that as soon as I went back to my watch list lol. Konman72 11:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: OneCone[edit]

Re: several images for deletion. Why are these being deleted? The reason you have provided is "OR". Sorry, but that provides me with little information. Thanks. Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III Talk to me! 08:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. Just read what OR means. For the record, all of the images you have nominated for deletion were on my Userpage and on OneCone and thus were not orphans until you removed them. Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III Talk to me! 08:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Considering I made them, if I changed the licence to self-made and thus free-use, would I be able to have them on my userpage? Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III Talk to me! 08:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh and about my userpage: I don't know how to use tables, so if you can figure out a way of getting the Infobox on the right, the Userboxes on the left and the "Wikipedian" infobox in the middle, be bold and help me! lol. Thanks Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III Talk to me! 09:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Re: Ubuntu[edit]

Matthew, you seem to be taking things too personnally. Avoid this path. As of this image, you may want to warn the original uploader. All I did was just edit the image's svg code to reduce it's size. --Abu Badali 16:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Template[edit]

Other[edit]

Re: AIV[edit]

His last blank was 15 minutes ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vala_Mal_Doran&diff=prev&oldid=65263374 Matthew Fenton (contribs) 20:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

He was also warned numerous times in 24 hours. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 20:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
That looks and sounds more like an edit disagreement. Feel free to re-list on WP:AIV and I'll leave it alone - but that edit you gave doesn't look like vandalism to me. —Wknight94 (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, well, what do you know. it seems you finally reported me for vandalism. lol.89.32.1.82 17:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

HELL FIRE & MURDER!!!![edit]

I want to throttle him for his crappy excuses, vandalizim and lies. --Qho 21:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

You want to throttle who?89.32.1.82 11:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Please do not converse on my talk page -- It is unlikely he watches this page, use your own. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 11:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

July 2006[edit]

Main Space[edit]

That wasn't the blanking of pages[edit]

Quite awhile ago a discussion was held with several people in which we decided that on the OC page that Autumn Reeser and Willa Holland SHOULD NOT be listed in the main cast list until the fourth season debuts. They have been confirmed as part of the cast list, but the decision we came up with was that changes in such an unstable show like the OC shouldn't be listed until they actually take place. Which is why I moved Holland and Reeser from the main cast down to the regulars again. I removed Lisa Tucker as "Guest Stars" generally does not include one who speaks 7 words on one episode of a show and is then never seen nor heard from again. I had changed it quite awhile ago to say "Notable Guest Appearances" to encompass those people (like Tucker) who did not "star" in any episode, yet nevertheless made an appearance in them. There was no blanking of pages involved. Batman2005 20:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It might also help for you to learn to assume good faith in edits, rather than just coming and issuing a warning when clearly none was needed. Please don't respond, I don't need your rudeness. Batman2005 22:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I asked you not to respond, i do not believe you assumed good faith, you told me that I blanked a page....which you were completely and totally wrong about. Good day to you, i'm through with your pointless discussion. I don't assume good faith where none was assumed in the first place. Batman2005 22:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Please stop trolling my talk page and inputting your nonsense. You issued a warning where none was warranted, you were proven wrong, if you don't like it i'm sorry, but stop trolling my page. Batman2005 22:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Replied to user, was uncooperaive and assumed bad faith and was hostile. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 19:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Warning of: Stevertigo for 3RR[edit]

I knew three years ago when I edited and voted for 3RR policy that it would eventually bit me back. So its of course a great irony that an editor with actual "tons of edits" (and not just a sticker which claims so) gets harrassed for 3RR - I assume for the science fiction article - when in fact what I was doing was actually improving it. But maybe youre one of those busy admins who doesnt bother to check out the page they are reading. Thanks, -Ste|vertigo 15:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Please dont move..[edit]

..Comments on a talk page, you make it difficult when the discussion is active. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 08:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Discussions are often only active for a few days or weeks, but remain to be read for years. It's important for wiki-savvy editors to encourage newbies to (A) sign their postings with datestamps, and (B) use the new-topic (+) tab to start a new discussion in the correct place (a failure especially pernicious due to the popularity of blogs, which frequently use the reverse order), so that the rest of the world reading these discussions can follow the chronological flow and understand the development of content discussions. I only did what more active editors of Talk:Dead Like Me should have done weeks ago, when it wouldn't have been so disruptive. Also, you shouldn't post a comment to someone's talk page about an edit without at least citing the page in question. Finally, an ellipsis is three periods (dots), not two. (You wouldn't happen to be a Pascal programmer, would you? ☺) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I dont know pascal sorry, and to recetify this i intend to archive the discussions except the 2 current active ;-)! Matthew Fenton (contribs) 15:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Archiving doesn't solve the flow problem, although it's certainly a good idea, especially now that the discussions are in correct order. (I fixed the remaining order problems after adding some missing timestamps, and also moved a non-sequitur from one topic to its own.) I've added a {{talkheader}} to the talk page to help avoid the situation in the future. (The Pascal reference was a (poor) attempt at computer-nerd humor, alluding to the fact that the it uses two periods as ellipses.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image[edit]

Thank you for your message. I am perfectly entitled to disput ethe fair use status of that image, and I have, therefore, readded the tag to attract the attention of a third party. The third party should be the one to remove it, not you. Some of the message you left on my takl page was rather impolite, for which there was no need. The JPStalk to me 13:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance notices from pages unless the required changes have been made. If you are uncertain whether the page requires further work, or if you disagree with the notice, please discuss these issues on the page's talk page before removing the notice from the page. These notices and comments are needed to establish community consensus about the status of a page. Thank you. The JPStalk to me 14:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Tagging all of my images is quite ridiculous, and I am reporting you at WP:AN/I. See also WP:POINT The JPStalk to me 14:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Not blanking[edit]

That's not blanking. 1) You put back a parameter we worked hard to delete and 2) The colour you put clashes with the other colours. That someone does not agree with your edits it's not "blanking". --Andromeda 15:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Of course I removed text! But that's not blanking. Blanking is removing all text, not just the wrong part of it! And I still don't like your changes, it makes the "Stargate Character" part very hard to read on most races and it's completely unnecesary. --Andromeda 15:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
1) It can be read, but it's hard. 2) My monitor does not need tweaking, but perhaps yours do. 3) Not everybody that visits Wikipedia has a 20/20 vision. Black text on a dark red background is hard to read. And do not mess with the colours more, please. It took us long enough to reach a consensus. --Andromeda 15:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
No, I don't, but perhaps you do. That template is the product of the SG project and we had many discussions about it. Use the talk page there to suggest changes.--Andromeda 15:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Last edit was not a revert. --Andromeda 15:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
No, it wasn't. It was an edit, not a revert. So was 17:14 and 17:15. Didn't you notice I made an error? I had to fix it. So it was an edit, not a revert. --Andromeda 15:28, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Last one is an edit. I edited the page manually, I did not use the revert feature. And once you stop having arguments, you start with threats? How adult of you. --Andromeda 15:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
And what would that be? Agree with you? I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your changes. I'm willing to discuss them in the project and perhaps we can find a better solution for all parts involved. But I cannot agree with you just because you threaten to report me. I don't get reported and you get what you wanted. I'm sorry, but that's blackmail. If you want to discuss it, I'm open for it. Yes, I made and error and I know it, but I'm not open to blackmail. If I'm blocked for 24 hours, I'll accept it. --Andromeda 15:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Please read Template talk:Stargate character. I think it's the best place to discuss the aspect of the template. --Andromeda 15:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Image Space[edit]

Template[edit]

Other[edit]

Re: RfA[edit]

Thank you for taking the time to express an opinion in my recent RfA. I appreciate all the feedback from my fellow editors. One of the rationals you gave for your opinion was per Tony.. If you have the time I would appreciate some suggestions for specific actions I could take to remedy the problems identified by Tony Sidaway. If not, no problem; I still appreciate the feedback. Eluchil404 19:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: RfA #2[edit]

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Thanks for your opinions in my RfA. Ultimately, the request did not pass, with a vote of (43/16/7). But your honest opinion was appreciated and I'll just keep right on doing what I do. Maybe I'll see ya around -- I'll be here!
Cheers! - CheNuevara 17:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Typo fixing[edit]

Thanks for the typo correction. — Nathan (talk) / 18:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Heavy Prometheus[edit]

A car might indeed weigh 2 tons, or even 2 tonnes. But the Prometheus is supposed to mass 2.95 million tonnes, which is six times as much as the largest supertanker even constructed, and nearly thirty times as much as the USS Reagan, which has a crew of 5,600. I'm perfectly willing to accept that it's the correct mass for the ship (hyperdrive engines might be made of neutroneum for all I know), but a citation would be nice. Deadlock 15:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Wickethewok's RFA[edit]

Admin mop.PNG Thanks for your support on my RFA. The final vote count was (61/9/3), so I am now an administrator. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. Once again, thank you. Wickethewok 15:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

CFD notices[edit]

Hello. Just to let you know that it is a major part of wikipedia etiquette not to remove the CFD tag (or similar tags) until the discussion has finished. An administrator will remove it should the category be kept. The JPS 13:59, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I don't know if you've noticed the amount of vandalism the Phil Redmond article is receiving at the moment by an obviously disgruntled ex-employee. Keep an eye on the article for the rant.
As far as the category is concerned: well, I'm warming to it, now that more articles are going into it...
If you're interested in British television programmes, why don't you join the new Wikipedia:WikiProject British TV shows The JPS 23:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Hollyoaks characters[edit]

Hi,

In line with WP:FICTION, characters should usually be included on the series page unless it gets excessively large, in which case major characters only should be given their own pages.

I changed several character pages to redirects (in preference to recommending them for deletion - see point 4 on WP:FICTION) where these were minor characters or there was less information on that page than in the main Hollyoaks article. These were barely long enough to quality as stubs (almost substubs).

Leaving the links in place would have created Wikipedia:Double redirects and would not have served readers. In the unlikely event that the main article becomes so large and these characters sufficiently major that they have full articles of their own, I would be happy to relink to them. --Whouk (talk) 10:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I do watch Hollyoaks, yes. Even if you want to treat them as major characters, though, WP:FICTION still recommends including them in the main article. I've joined the discussion on Talk:Hollyoaks which is probably the best place to try to find consensus. --Whouk (talk) 11:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Antonia/Grace[edit]

Cool. (Did you make that change? It was an anonymous IP.) I checked against the Hollyoaks website but they're obviously behind :-)

PS: Please remember to sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes like so: ~~~~ --Whouk (talk) 22:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Picture_00002.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Picture_00002.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images on Wikipedia is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. You can get help on image copyright tagging from Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. -- Carnildo 00:33, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, could I also encourage you to use meaningful filenames when uploading? Cheers. The JPS 01:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hollyoaks[edit]

Hi Matthew, There's no need to be uncivil. I removed the television schedule information because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. It's not about promotion, it's about what's appropriate for an encyclopedia. Comparisons to a paper encyclopedia are imperfect, but in this case are appropriate: you wouldn't look in the Encyclopedia Britannica for television schedules, right? Read WP:NOT for more information. Let me know if there are any other questions I can answer for you. --Fang Aili 20:04, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopedia/encyclopaedia[edit]

In response to your question at Talk:Main Page and your move of Encyclopedia to Encyclopaedia (which I've reverted), your apparent belief that British English (or "English," as you call it) is the correct, primary or default English language dialect is false. American English is equally valid, as are Canadian English, Australian English, New Zealand English, et cetera.

Wikipedia practice is to incorporate all varieties of English, using whichever is most appropriate within the context of a topic. (The Tony Blair article is written in British English, while the George W. Bush article is written in American English.) When no obvious choice exists, we stick with whichever variety the original post-stub author used (unless there's a good reason not to).

Please do not switch any further spellings to Commonwealth English, unless such a change is performed in accordance with our Manual of Style (which I cited above). Thank you. —David Levy 15:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

You seem to be forgeting that this is the ENGLISH encyclopaedia, i dont see a place saying American ENGLISH, The english are from england we speak english and are english our language is english so english is english.--Matthew Fenton 17:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
The term "English" does not strictly refer to people and things from England. The English language is widely spoken in many countries other than England, and American English is no less a form of English than yours is.
No, this isn't an American English website (despite the fact that it was founded by Americans, which is why it isn't called "Wikipaedia"), nor is it a British English website. No variety of English is the "correct" one.
Again, please read our Manual of Style before making any further assumptions regarding which form(s) of English should be used here. Also see English Wikipedia. —David Levy 18:10, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
also, if you'd like to contribute to a purely English English Wikipedia, you might want to try ang:. If it is any comfort, the Greek version is called Βικιπαιδεια. dab () 18:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
"No variety of English is the "correct" one." Exactly. But, the majority (or at least plurality) of our readers/contributors are probably American. Sir Elderberry 03:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER This is with respect to the Windows Live Messenger screenshot. I hreverted the picture again but reuploaded your file under a different filename and changed the link in the main page so that technically there is no problem and the page remains the same. Koshyjohnuk 13:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Correct English[edit]

English has entered into such wide use across the world and with so many people outside England speaking it, I doubt that the term "English" with regards to the language really has a connection to the country any more. There is not a correct version of English. In matters of style between dialects, regional differences should be considered first (ie, writing the United States article in British English would not be a good idea) and if this cannot help then the best thing to do is keep the article consistent with the current style. We can tell the intention generally, whatever happens. Sir Elderberry 03:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

LiveConnect v6[edit]

"(Reverted edits by Koshyjohnuk to last version by MatthewFenton (these links do not belong in this article, they violate wlm's terms.. thus do not belong here)) "

This is the reason you left at the history page for reverting the Windows Live Messenger article. Since you made this assertion, the carefully went through the terms of use of WLM and I found that those links do not point to software that in any way violate those terms. Neither do they _violate_ the guidelines at Wikipedia.

I agree that the earlier version of the software may have done so. But the latest one clearly doesn't. Kindly comment on this.

Thank you for your time.

Koshyjohnuk 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

This is just to inform you that LiveConnect does not in any way modify or change the Windows Live Messenger executable or any of its dependancies at any point of time. Even during the development of LiveConnect, WLM was NEVER disassembled, reverse engineered or decompiled.

LiveConnect makes use of a Windows API that allows you to apply transparency on any open window. All LiveConnect does is make sure that the window belongs to Windows Live Messenger and apply transparency to it. As for the other feature: Bosskey; all that does it hide Windows Live Messenger windows; unlike what most users think there are many states to a window which include: exists, *VISIBLE*, enabled, active, minimized, maximized.

The above two functions of LiveConnect can be applied to ANY running window (like Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer, anything!) at any time without touching the concerned executable or its dependancies. This is similar to what software like AlphaXP does.

Your argument may have been valid when I used to bundle the Protocol Downgrader with it but that is no longer a part of LiveConnect. If you have any other compelling arguments against including the link on Wikipedia kindly let me know.

[I cannot provide more LiveConnect programming details for obvious reasons; but you can verify what I just said by checking if there is any change in any of the WLM files by using a File Compare program; before and after installing LiveConnect.]

Koshyjohnuk 11:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Matt[edit]

Hey Matt, I'm Ben from Australia. and i have shocking news. I look alot like the contact in this picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Add_Nickname.png

my frinds and reltives are amazed at the resemblance. please email me at ubisoft4me@gmail.com to talk about this.

Capital letters in edit summaries[edit]

As per this: (diff) (hist) . . m Enterprise (NX-01); 04:37 . . MatthewFenton (Talk | contribs) (It was NOT designated a USS Enterprise, and it was EARTH Starfleet)

I'd like you to know that it is not proper netiquette to type in all capital letters as that is often seen as shouting and is incivil.

There is no need to be incivil during editing disagreements. I urge you to keep a cool head while editing. Incivility is against Wikipedia policy, per WP:CIVIL.

After doing some research, I admit you are correct, the ship was never designated "USS". However, this is still no reason to shout at me. Please stop. — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (Got something to say? Say it.) 02:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Your VandalProof Application[edit]

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Thank you for applying for VandalProof! (VP). As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact with the new 1.1 version release it has even more power. As such we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. The reason for this is that unfortunately you do not meet our 250 mainspace edit limit, however please try again soon. Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again in the not too distant future. Thank you for your interest in VandalProof. - Glen TC (Stollery) 15:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


Fair use rationale for Image:WLM 80689.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading Image:WLM 80689.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Tim 18:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Re. Image[edit]

Perhaps you neglected to read the last section of the image template:

To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information.

You have not done this. A rationale is not simply adding a template. You must justify why you are uploading the image as fair use, see Wikipedia:Image_description_page#Fair_use_rationale. You cannot simply add a template to the image and leave it as fair use.

You have also not specified a source for the image. If you got the image from a website, or if you made the image yourself, you must say so.

Do not worry, I forgive you :)! --Tim 09:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: linking[edit]

I was under the impression they were photon torpedoes. I mean, they're named like that, and they looked a lot like the photon torpedoes we saw in other Star Trek series. Aren't they photon torpedoes?

And why did you remove the question? They were valid, NPOV, unasnwered questions. -- Ritchy 23:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough for the torpedoes. There was a better page to link to anyway (here). But that still doesn't explain why you removed the questions, regarding why Starfleet was using technology inferior to what it had available and why the Romulans were using weapons 18 centuries old. -- Ritchy 23:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

FAC room[edit]

Hi Matthew: they won't take any notice of your vote (US) unless you write at least "per [names of one or more other reviewers]". Tony 09:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You could easily return to the FAC room and add something to validate your comment; I'm keen that the nominators of the US article get off their arses and fix it, and that won't happen unless we apply pressure. Tony 10:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Krudz[edit]

Thanks.

You might also want to review the other 'contributions' that user has made? ShakespeareFan00 17:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Local Praise[edit]

Sincere apologies go to anyone who has been offended by any of my articles. My aim is simply to notify people outside of Waterford of the kind of things we have going on here. My intentions are not to spam, apologies again if it comes across like that. I am a big fan of everything local. User:Spaingy

Vitsoe[edit]

Dear Matthew

I have posted content from the Vitsoe.com website as we own this website and the content was created by us. The page I am creating on Vitsoe for wikipedia is using this text as it includes the information needed to discuss Vitsoe (the company) and the person Niels Wiese Vitsoe. The image is also owned by us, however I would like to retain copyright where possible.

Many thanks

Daniel Nelson


Vitsoe 10:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Matthew

If you can remove the text and leave a blank page, I will create a basic page with information about Niels Wiese Vitsoe and leave all information regarding Vitsoe Ltd. off to avoid sounding like we are advertising. My aim is to add information regarding the history of the designs he commisioned as opposed to the current production of the designs.

If we can remove the image also, and I will ensure we can give up copyright before re-submitting.

Thanks again

Daniel


Vitsoe 11:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Matthew

I have now updated the temp page following the instuctions on the page. What else do I need to do?

Daniel


Vitsoe 15:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Matthew

The page is not fully edited, however your instructions indicate that I have control to make the page live again. How can I do this, it is not clear?

Many thanks

Daniel


Vitsoe 16:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Daniel

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Granted it not stated in official canton[edit]

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Windows Live Messenger[edit]

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Regarding edits made during September 11, 2006 (UTC) to Bindi Irwin[edit]

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Bugs in my bot[edit]

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Infobox actor[edit]

Your change broke pages like Sigourney Weaver that don't specify the parameter. Here is the template substed before reverting so you can see:

Sigourney Weaver
[[Image:Ellen ripley.jpg ]]
Sigourney Weaver in Aliens
Birth name: Susan Alexandra Weaver
Date of birth: October 8, 1949
Birth location: Manhattan, New York City
Height: 1.82m (5' 11½")[2]
Notable role(s): Ellen Ripley in Alien and its sequels
Academy Awards: None; however she has been nominated.[4]

--NE2 15:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


Beggar's Litany[edit]

Next town on it :) Will (Glaciers melting in the dead of night) 20:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


a favour[edit]

em..er.. if you have a moment - could you take a look at my userpage - the barnstar is all squashed and it would better if those four boxes were together. Any help would be much apperciate.

regards

--Charlesknight 21:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


Thanks!! --Charlesknight 21:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


Opinion[edit]

Hi, Matthew. I want to ask for your opinion about something before I go embarrassing myself at the Prison Break talk page. Do you think the "cast and characters" section would be better if the format was changed to that of Lost (TV series) since the list is getting reordered frequently and increasingly long. Another thing is about the general improvement of the entire Prison Break article. I am going to ask for suggestions at the Talk:Prison Break for sections to be improved and added like "critical response" or something. Your help would be appreciated, thanks. Ladida 00:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Ladida 12:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

My RFA[edit]

Thank you, MatthewFenton, for voting on my RFA, which passed 95 to 1. Now that I have the mop, I hope I can live up to the standard, and be a good administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. —this is messedrocker (talk) 21:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Go raibh maith agat![edit]

Hi there, Matthew!

Thank you so much for supporting my RfA! It ended up passing and I'm rather humbled by the support (and a bit surprised that it was snowballed a day early!). Please let me know if I can help you out and I welcome any comments, questions, or advice you wish to share.

Sláinte!

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Random[edit]

Yep! You? -- Ladida 10:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah - the Bellick/Nika thing made me sick though *pukes*. :) Anyway, do you think the Prison Break#Cast and characters is ok? I'm rewording it a little bit right now. -- Ladida 10:20, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yep. Windows Live Messenger. Why? (It's probably easier and faster to talk there.) -- Ladida 10:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm adding you now. You may not recognise the address since it's different to my wikipedia username. :) -- Ladida 10:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Konstable's RfA thanks[edit]

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Hi MatthewFenton, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful last Wednesday with a unanimous support of (47/0/0). I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean, green and vandal free. Once again, thank you! --Konstable 14:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


Infobox actor template[edit]

How do you use an image smaller than 220 px, without the image being distorted? --DrBat 15:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks. That helps a lot. :) --DrBat 16:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


A Lost barnstar for you[edit]

In recognition of excellence in editing Lost articles.

Hi, Matthew,

I haven't had the pleasure of giving out one of these for a while, but I noticed the fine work you've been doing in helping organise the Lost Wikiproject, as well as the List of Lost Episodes. I'm happy to see new editors with enthusiasm to improve the efforts of past editors (such as myself.) Much thanks! -- LeflymanTalk 03:33, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


Belated thanks[edit]

Thank you for participating in my RfA. Consensus to promote was reached, and I am now an administrator. I'll be using the tools cautiously at first, and everyone should feel welcome to peer over my shoulder and make sure I'm not doing anything foolish. --RobthTalk 04:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


RfA[edit]

Thanks for your noteDlohcierekim 13:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


I know you don't see a problem with it...[edit]

...and frankly thats the least of the three concerns I mentioned. I'm someone who thinks talkpage histories should be preserved (which is a key part of the GFDL, though I realize that talk pages don't need to adhere to that), specifically so that people can recall past interactions. I always try to recall past interactions with users when they go up for RFA, and the fact that I couldn't find any when I remembered making comments on your talk made me think that you had something to hide. Its only because I am admin that I could find my edit in the history of that page, and we cannot do diffs on deleted pages.

I'm not trying to be mean or discourage you. I'm trying to be as specific on my objections as I can so you know what I would have done differently were I in your place. :) Syrthiss 15:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


RfA Thanks[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (50/3/0). If you have any further questions or suggestions, feel free to write me. I hope I will live up to your trust. Michael 01:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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Doctors[edit]

I changed the photograph back as there may be a chance, however slight, of using the old cast photo again, much in the same way as Silent Witness. As such you should have uploaded the new cast photo under a different name, such as, say, Doctors 2006? (Pally01 09:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC))

  • I understand the need to keep uptodate but that the old cast photo could be used somewhere else in the article to show the genesis of the programme and probably wouldn't have been oprhaned. I understand the EastEnders article does the same. However I will bow to your better technical knowledge. (Pally01 12:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC))
    • I would be happy to collaborate on the article. I think that part of the problem with it is the lack of information that is available on the programme compared to the other soaps and the fact that it has less viewers. However the cast turnover is less which can lead to a greater depth to the characters. I'll have a think and let you know. (Pally01 12:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC))

The Halo's RfA[edit]


Tireless Contributor's Barnstar[edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I award MatthewFenton this Barnstar for his tireless and quality work on the Battlestar article and its various spin-off articles. SergeantBolt (t,c) 00:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


Barnstar[edit]

No problem. You deserve it! SergeantBolt (t,c) 08:13, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


Canon stuff[edit]

I didn't think it was rude, and I'm all for canon-only material. --EEMeltonIV 20:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


RfA vote[edit]

Please reconsider your oppose vote on this RfA. Thank you.--Andeh 12:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


Mr. Lefty's RfA thanks[edit]

Raczka4.jpg Hi, MatthewFenton, and thanks for supporting me in my recent request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 70/4/4. I hope I can live up to your expectations, and if there's ever anything you need, you know where to find me! --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 00:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Rfa[edit]

Why did you revert my edits? I was doing an Rfa. Thank you. Hmrox 20:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Could you tell me how to do it correctly? Hmrox 20:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Firefly[edit]

I asked specifically in #wikipedia whether infoboxes were meant to replace text, and they aren't. An article, a good one, should survive having all infoboxes deleted. Besides, science fiction is not the "primary genre" of Firefly, because it is as much a comedy as it is a science fiction show. Space, western, comedy. All of those are incredibly important to the nature of the show. If you are a fan, I'm sure that you were more impressed by the comedy than you were the space ships or the fact the story occurs on different planets. I'd break 3RR if I changed it, but I consider the inclusion of comedy-drama to be important. I will look for a compromise when I'm not so tired. (Perhaps a full sentence explanation, since I get the feeling that people are afraid of the string of wikilinks.) - BalthCat 07:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

ps: You might have been right to slash the Jericho trivia page, it's swelled to about 1/3 the article, and caused a bunch of anon-IPs to get all cranky because I didn't want to let them guess where Jericho was. - BalthCat 07:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Copyright vio on Battlestar page[edit]

Just to make clear that the wikipedia article has had many elements copied from the bswiki and not the other way around so i re-added the tag. --Mercifull 08:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

List of The 4400 episodes screencaps[edit]

It looks like your recent edits dropped out the screencaps for seasons 1 and 2. Was this intentional? Travisl 14:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


Barnstar[edit]

Thanks very much! I'm glad you think my edits are good! SergeantBolt (t,c) 17:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


Carrier synopsis[edit]

Go ahead and send your draft synopsis to me at The4400 AT lauricella DOT net (having your own domain is nice!). It'll likely be late tonight (early morning for you) before I get to it, though. Travisl 22:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


Doctors[edit]

Just because we have a Wikipedia naming standard that puts articles at the singular (i.e. physician instead of physicians), that doesn't mean that people will always search that way. Of all the things people might be looking for when they type in "doctors", the most important and original meaning is clearly "physicians", and so that is the least surprising place for it to redirect to. The soap opera is, after all, just a soap opera. — sjorford++ 09:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


Time and Again[edit]

Nitpicks are meta information about the episode just like the Notes section. When does one include one, but can't the other? Are only some nitpicks allowed? Perhaps not filming errors, but only plot holes?

Icefox 20:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

?[edit]

He really said "..F*****G HELL! I need to be an admin NOW!"??? Thanks in advance Glen 10:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


{{lame}}[edit]

{{lame}} is now fully Speedy nominated. If the template gets taken off please feel at liberty to TfD it. This thing has to go. I'm going to bed and hope it will be gone by morning. (the template, not the bed) :) Fiddle Faddle 22:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah! noincludes. Well I know now! I bet I forget though Fiddle Faddle 22:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

DAB links[edit]

Hello, I noticed you reverted one of my edits regarding the situation of the dablink of Lost (TV series) [11]. I would like to ask why (I don't understand your log). This change is important for accessibility reasons: the dablink should appear before any contents, including infoboxes. Best regards, --surueña14:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It fits more comfortably if the dab link is underneath the infobox space and quashes out extra whitespace :-) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
OK. Note this is a policy (see Wikipedia:Accessibility), so I'll redo my changes in that article. Please, in the future adhere to this policy, it will help not only disabled readers and editors but all of us. Thanks -surueña 14:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

That is a guideline... Also it helps me in no way except making the page hard to read. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

This doesn't make the page harder to read, and has several advantages (and it's of paramount importance for blind users, or people accessing Wikipedia with a mobile phone browser, for example). You are right, it's not a policy but a guideline. Anyway, I don't see this article special, and therefore that part of the WP:MOS should be observed too. Thanks. --surueña 15:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
PS: I always watch talk pages when I leave a message, so it's easier to have the discussion in only one place. Best regards.

Q4[edit]

answered - CrazyRussian talk/email 12:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA[edit]

Matthew, in response to your query on my talk page about my oppose reasons there are two points in it. The first is that I was moved to oppose you as I have very high standards in respect of civility. I do not presently recall when it was that we interacted and it was probably only briefly but I did check histories and contributions before I made that comment which was likely sparked by something minor that led me to look deeper. The point about Esperanza was a point about Esperanza and is that every time I found an editor to be incivil, including gross incivility and assumptions of bad faith, they were a member of that group. I alluded to the straw/camel's back analogy as I wanted to make the point about EA membership while retaining the impression that I did not feel that you were responsible for any great incivility, or assumptions of bad faith. I have not been around much on wikipedia lately and do not have a set of diffs to present to you but I will say that my previous impression is that you are a very valuable contributor and that is expressed best when you are considered in your discussion points and is expressed less ably when your response is swift. MLA 14:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Lois and Clark[edit]

Thanks for your help with the infobox. I've got it working now. Thanks! Think outside the box 18:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

City Ship picture[edit]

Yeah, the picture is kind of blurry, and i'm still looking for a better one. but i still think that the picture in the infobox should present the city ship as an actual space ship, thus in space. especially since the picture of atlantis sitting on the ocean is not very "space ship-like". but fine, i won't change it for the time being. Maartentje 10:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The way I approached the article when i wrote it some time ago was that Atlantis (Stargate) discribes the subject as a city, and Ancient City Ship discribes it as a space craft. Maartentje 10:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
It's Maarten, not Marteen :D Maartentje 17:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Buffy nomination restarted[edit]

Since you have were involved with discussion before at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you might appreciate knowing that the nomination for the Buffy articles has been restared at the same wiki page. I am letting everyone know who might not be aware (whether they were for or against the article becoming featured). Cheers -- Buffyverse 22:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Warning[edit]

Thanks for warning me of an impending bloodbath, Fenton! I was expecting it anyway. I'll keep the nomination up, regardless. If I don't succeed (which I know I won't), I'll at least have a better understanding of what I need to do. Thanks again! -- P.B. Pilhet / Talk 23:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks from StuffOfInterest[edit]

Smiley.svg Thank you for participating in my RfA, which finished with a tally of 52/6/1 (~90%). It was an interesting process which gave me a chance to learn a bit about myself and about the community. My intention now is to slowly ease into using those additional buttons on my page. No use being over eager and mucking up the works. The support of all those who went over my record and/or rallied to my defense after the big oppose vote was instumental to the success of this review. Again, thank you! --StuffOfInterest 11:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Science Fiction / SF... hiya!![edit]

Hi Matthew, I reverted an anon who made wholesale replacement of SF with "science fiction" as well as a minor formatting error. I annotated my revert, citing the current discussion on this topic on the Talk page, so I wonder if you think my initial revert was incorrect. I was really just trying to suggest that that anon come and join the discussion which does not appear to have reached any consensus against "SF", and which possibly seems to be leaning in the opposite way, ie there are good stylistic reasons to use "SF" on occasion. Let me know what you think. Thanks heaps. Leeborkman 07:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, okay, I see that you have voiced your concerns about the use of "SF" on the talk page. Actually, I would happily go with that alternative article title you mentioned... "Science Fiction (SF)", but there are many other ramifications when retitling an article. Anyway, as I have said, I consider "SF" to be a standard and synonym for "Science fiction" that could and should be used to make the text less clunky. Do you think that the discussion on the Talk page is approaching any kind of useful consensus, or can you see any way of ever reaching an acceptable compromise? What do you reckon? Thanks. Leeborkman 07:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, Matthew. I really don't assume that the reader is familiar with the subject's abbreviations, which is why I explained the abbreviation in the opening sentence of the article. Is that not sufficient to put the reader at ease? Leeborkman 07:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
And I don't agree with your sentiment that abbreviations necessarily cause "hell". An abbreviation, properly used, makes for easier reading, in exactly the same way that properly used pronouns do. But I guess we are not likely to ever agree on that one ;-) Leeborkman 07:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that's a strange argumnet you raise when you say that "SF" could mean anything outside the field of Science Fiction. Well yes, it could, but I'm not sure why you think that that is an argument against using the abbreviation. It's simply an argument for using the abbreviation carefully and properly, ie when the context makes it clear which possible meaning of "SF" is being, and when the use of the abbreviation makes the text flow better. once again, I believ that pronouns are the crucial analogy: the word "he" could mean anybody when you remove it from its context, but that certainly doesn't mean that this pronoun should never be used. See ya. Leeborkman 07:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that there is anyone arguing for "sci-fi" as a synonym. We have a couple of current professional practitioners, as writers and critics, who agree that SF is in fact now a universal synonym for "science fiction" (assuming the relevant context, eg we are not talking about great cities of California), while "sci-fi" is not. Anyways... I've got to run. Good to talk with you. Leeborkman 07:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

OnelinerTOC[edit]

Wow, thanks!!! The template rocks now :-) Renmiri 18:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Battlestar[edit]

Are you sure that List of Battlestar Galactica (re-imagined series) episodes is a better name than List of Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series) episodes. I know it covers some other stuff, but (re-imagined series) doesn't sound standardized. The miniseries is basically a pilot for the show, and webisodes should probably be put on the main BG2004 page. - Peregrinefisher 07:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit]

I don't see it failing any of the rules that you listed. Many other articles on TV series use the logo as their image rather then a picture of the cast. Most of them are older shows as well. I don't care one or the other if it is up there. I just thought it would make the page look nicer, but I think your objections to having it up are invalid. --Pinkkeith 19:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

We'll just agree that we don't agree and leave it at that. --Pinkkeith 19:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Corrections on The O.C. wikipage[edit]

I just wanted to clarify my actions regarding the removal of rumors about Season Four from The O.C. wiki, since you seem to be the head honcho over there for keeping everything legit. The Daily Mirror (where the "info" came from) is a notorious UK tabloid/newspaper -- specifically notorious for (surprise, surprise) its lack of foundation for many of the claims it makes. I honestly couldn't come up with a better way of including the rumors without basically lambasting the Mirror on the wikipage itself, and since the source is less-than-solid, chose to remove the unsubstantiated claims altogether. If there's some way you can think of to include the info from the Mirror's article, please do -- but until it can be made clear that the info is probably total bunk, I think it's a waste of valuable wikispace to include it and mess with peoples' heads. Hope this finds you well!


P.S. I happened to see that you were removing the constant shameless plugs by the guy on the Heroes wiki (noticed the other day, but didn't add two and two together); just for the record, you're totally right to be stopping that kind of ridiculousness, and I was glad you were doing it.


Peace.

JasonDUIUC@gmail.com, if you want to reach me.


Thanks for the quick response, I actually went ahead and made the change and just a condensed comment about the caveat and sourcing in the remarks (for all to see, not just you and me). Yeah, I don't necessarily DISLIKE the Mirror, it's just that using it as an official source of info would be tantamount to saying that Tom Cruise is really an alien (similar-quality tabloid headline I saw recently). In other words, mostly it's good for a laugh and maybe a few kernels of real information or editorial commentary, but totally lacking in source-level integrity.

Again, thanks, and take care!

Indeed I am!

--Mcdreamy 21:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Jericho article[edit]

Matthew, before you remove the trivia section again, please see the comments on trivia on the article's talk page. Thanks. 205.188.117.67 08:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Nice work on the BSG articles[edit]

-) Checked up on them. BattlestarWiki interwiki link has been fixed. Might want to link to the BSGWiki on the episode pages. Shane (talk/contrib) 06:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah... [[BattlestarWiki:xyz]]. I got it added to the list in the new version of Mediawiki a while back. It just became active with the 1.8 series. Shane (talk/contrib) 07:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your edit of Occupation (Battlestar Galactica)[edit]

  • I have conformed to NPOV policy; you do not understand the policy. Please read up on it.
  • I have conformed to the Weasel words policy; you do not understand the policy. Please read up on it.
  • You are in repeated violation of the deletion policy.
  • I have provided the sources you asked for; you have refused to view them, and asked "Why would I want to click these?"
  • I can fix your vandalism as fast as you can create it, so why don't you save all of us some time by editting the new section to make it conform to your desires a single time, instead of deleting it 400 times?

Tjic 11:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

"It's patently obvious I haven't" ... what?

Tjic 12:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Grey's Anatomy[edit]

Certainly here's the source. [12]. This is from the official ABC press release site. I will also change the photos to (tv-copyright) as you asked. Sfufan2005 21:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Lost fan sites[edit]

Matthew, I see you're a Lost fan. I'm asking for support for my proposals on the linking of Lost fan sites. They are very brief and easy to understand. Please weigh in there if you've got a second. Thanks, --Loqi T. 03:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser[edit]

Thanks for the tip, it's just that I need 500 edits before I can apply. Have a good day! Pax:Vobiscum 07:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

warning[edit]

The very next time you erase a comment from a page, I will contact an administrator. Charlesknight's words also insult wikipedia and it is the job of a good wikipedian to get rid of them. Your behavior is unacceptable. As I told you before, I don't care what relationship you have with the user. Hungrygirl 13:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

AIV[edit]

I've moved your post to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Matthew_Fenton_and_Hungrygirl. Alphachimp 14:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA thanks[edit]

Géode V 3 1 duale.gif Hi, MatthewFenton! Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of 75/0/1! I hope I can live up to the standards of adminship, and I will try my best to make Wikipedia a better place. Feel free to send me a message if you need any assistance. :)

--Coredesat 14:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Removing a deletion request[edit]

Please don't remove a deletion request. That is considered vandalism. 25,000 on Alexa refers to the whole of wikia.com not its subdomain. Thirdly, the writers of LOST contributing to Lostpedia is not considered grounds for an article, so why should Memory Alpha be any different? --90.192.92.77 22:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA question[edit]

Hiya, I'd like your opinion on something. I saw that someone in the adminship discussion had expressed a concern about my mother's article. I understand the concern, but in reality, I haven't made a single edit to that article. Do you think I should reply with that information, or just let it go under a "He has a right to his opinion"? --Elonka 22:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.  :) --Elonka 16:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Screencap for Collision[edit]

Hope you don't mind - I replaced your screencap with one from just a few frames earlier (and edited out the "Global" station id). I thought that the expression on FutureHiro's looked a bit odd in context and the serious look suited the mood better. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Apologize? Maybe?[edit]

Mr. Fenton (I'll call you Matt), on behalf of Lostpedia I would like to apologize for the confusion of people calling you a "vandal." We are sorry for the ban you received, but the reason you were banned was not listening to SySops, no matter how mush they told you to stop. Whoever uploads images has the option to credit himself or not, and they certainly dont need others doing it for them. I beleive an apology on your part will get you back on Lostpedia. If you wish to return. Namaste and good luck --Iron Chef 23:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC) (User:Onelastword) on Lostpedia.

P.S: It worked for me.

and i'd like to apologise on behalf of... erm... me, for iron chef having the tenacity to apologise on behalf of a website that nobody has the authority to apologise for in general. also, you might want to see the discussion raised at the policy village pump or indeed Jimbo Wales' LOST wikia talk page. (rereading this, if it comes across in tone as anyway hostile, it's not. iron chef's post just irked me somewhat) --Kaini 04:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Hungrygirl.. Twentyboy..[edit]

You said: "Would a check user be in order to establish if there are any "sleeper" accounts in waiting?"

I agree this would be useful but I'm not sure if this is actually possible. I know for sure I can't do it.  :( --Yamla 16:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Hey Matthew,

I just wanted to thank you for your support in my recent request for adminship, which passed unanimously with a final tally of 38/0/0. I appreciate your trust, and will do my best to uphold it. Don't hesitate to let me know if you ever need anything. — TKD::Talk 05:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

user page[edit]

I rather liked your user page, why did you blank it? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 02:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Typo[edit]

Please reconsider.--HamedogTalk|@ 11:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Helen Keller, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Martinp23 12:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for showing me this. As you may have seen from the edit summary, this warning was posted with VP2, and I have no idea whatsoever why it went to you. I apologise, and I will report the error on IRC -- Martinp23 13:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, I've sent a message to AmiDaniel on IRC with Memoserv. Again, sorry :) Martinp23 13:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Messenger[edit]

Yes, I'm on MSN Messenger as pktm1@hotmail.com. -- PKtm 21:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

apology accepted[edit]

I didn't quite understand your message, but, yes, your apology is accepted. Thank you for reading up on wikipedia norms. Tjic 02:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure where to put this but how can quotes not belong in the quotes/trivia portion of an episode page? that doesn't make any sense. I mean sure maybe I need to cut down as many as I used but you might as well call it the trivia section if there isn't suppoes to be any quotes.

Jack Harkness[edit]

I didn't want to overwrite that image because I wanted to keep the names consistent. If it bothers you, I could always erase the old image. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 07:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, done. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 07:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

bad editing[edit]

I dealt with an edit you made. Don't let it happen again The Gayboy 15:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

No I certainly do not, should I...However that is a Beautiful pic however on your userpage, did you take it.--Prince of Dharma 16:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

AIM[edit]

I don't really IM. I'm pretty responsive to my talk page though, it's like a slow IM. - Peregrinefisher 19:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I got MSN Messenger going, but I'm not sure how to use matthew@derwafflehaus. Shouldn't it be at msn.com or something? I haven't IM'd in a few years. - Peregrinefisher 20:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Location of references in Heroes[edit]

Is there a good reason *not* to list references at the very bottom? It makes a good deal of sense to place them there, as one would when crafting an essay. I didn't mean to do that twice to the heroes page, I didn't see your revert, sorry. --DJ Chair 21:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

misuse of vandalism template[edit]

Please don't use vandalism templates in content disputes. See Wikipedia:Vandalism#What_vandalism_is_not. But you might want to refer to WP:DR. In your particular case you might get some support due to the history of the other party scraping pictures of Google and uploading them with incomplete/wrong licencing info. Agathoclea 22:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Question on Hamedog's RFA[edit]

Quite honestly, did you need to ask this user if his request for adminship was a AFD? From someone who makes typos occasionaly, I can see someone typing in AFD instead of RFA. If you're question was in good faith, I apologize, but that kind of pointing isn't really needed. semper fiMoe 01:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka[edit]

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. I do however very much appreciate your comments, and found them very encouraging. Please rest assured that I am still very much in support of the Wikipedia project, and will continue to contribute without interruption. Thanks again! --Elonka 07:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Chat[edit]

Hi,

Yes, I have used those; but no, I'm not on regularly. Best, --LeflymanTalk 07:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


email[edit]

check your email. --Charlesknight 21:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:B5 garibaldi.jpg[edit]

Thank you. Of course, you are right. A free image could not reasonably be created for a fictional character. It's theoretically possible but that's pedantic and stupid. When I added that tag, I was thinking only of the actor. I'll remove the image from the actor's page and we are good to go. Thank you for your patience. --Yamla 20:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Episode Pages[edit]

Matthew, I am renaming the Jericho episode pages to use the format "Episode Name (Jericho)" instead of "Episode Name (Jericho Episode)." This is actually one of the requested changes on Talk:Jericho_(TV_series), and is according to the standards stated on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television_episodes under "Structure of an episode article."

These changes do not appear to be controversial, as you state, but quite the opposite. Would you like to discuss this on the Jericho talk page? --TobyRush 19:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

That's just it, though... the talk pages for Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television_episodes and Jericho (TV series) reflect no controversy about the naming conventions; if you disagree with them, you should bring them up there so those trying to improve Wikipedia can see that the topic is being debated. Your reversions are the only signs of anyone disagreeing with this convention that I have seen. --TobyRush 19:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
The {{TelevisionWikiProject}} infobox at the top of the Talk page, as well as the request to rename the episode pages, indicate a consensus that the Jericho pages are aiming to follow those guidelines. I'm not saying I disagree with the format that you're advocating, but if everyone in a group agrees upon something but you, it remains a consensus until you voice your opinion... preferably before reverting someone who is trying to assist in maintaining consistency.
Is there a "competing" project which uses the naming standard you prefer? If not, why not bring this up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television_episodes? I look forward to seeing your contributions there. --TobyRush 20:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
"The project you cite is something small with a few paticpants, a discussion among them does not equate to a project consensus" -- it does if you don't speak up. I've brought this up on Talk:Jericho_(TV_series). Let's move our discussion there so others can contribute. --TobyRush 20:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Ori weapons[edit]

Ok, I see what you mean but it should be noted that it's slightly different than a normal pulse weapon.

Faris b 20:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

That format works for me.

Faris b 20:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images in lists[edit]

Hello, I see you have contributed your thoughts to Wikipedia talk:Fair use/Fair use images in lists. It's been dead for a while, but I have archived it and taken a new fresh start. I hope this time we will be able to achieve something as I have summarized the main points of both sides (feel free to improve them) and I call you to express your support or oppose on the concrete proposal that I have formulated. Thanks, Renata 02:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Woot![edit]

Hurrah! --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Lost102.jpg)[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Lost102.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 19:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

'sup?[edit]

Sup? -- Peppery [ userpage | talk] 07:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

4400 WikiProject[edit]

Just because you're mad at me for supporting a delete of those episodes, and removing a policy violating recommendation from the WikiProject, does not give you the right to make false accusations. The policy that Wikipedia is not an episode guide overrides a goal that you alone added to a WikiProject. That which violates policy and does not have a consensus to back it up does not need a consensus to change it. I have done nothing wrong and I find it highly absurd (and ironic) that you are finding my edits rude. You disagree with me on some stuff, and that's ok. Don't behave like this just because of some disagreements, trying to take such an absurd low blow. -- Ned Scott 08:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Ned, I strongly urge you to please re-read WP:CIVIL. --Elonka 08:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I haven't said anything uncivil. -- Ned Scott 08:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
This is getting beyond absurd. -- Ned Scott 08:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
It's typical Matthew Fenton tactics. Wantonly purge and censor, then hide behind a Wikirule and pretend he's innocent. *That* is what's absurd. 66.90.151.114 22:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

please give the rfa a chance[edit]

2000 edits with no real problems (check my history) Rewired 18:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

lol. AQu01rius (User | Talk | Websites)  18:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, strangely (and Matthew can check my maths) - you have about 10 edits the last I checked - and not a single one is to an article... --Charlesknight 18:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Unnecessary disambiguation[edit]

Hi, Matthew. You seem to be frequently restoring the disambiguation (Torchwood) after Torchwood episodes that don't need it. This has been discussed at Talk:List of Torchwood episodes. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Episode articles. Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 19:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Galactica External Links[edit]

I'm sorry, but a link to a (non-commercial) podcast who's sole purpose is to discuss "Battlestar Galactica" is completely appropriate for the "External Links" section of the BSG TV show page.

Deleting it simply because it was added by the Podcast producer is pretty silly. If it would make you feel better, I can have one of my listeners edit the page.

I'm offended both at your characterization of my link as "spam" and your assertion that I need to "learn more about Wikipedia" (I've been editing here longer than you have).

Alight 15:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

BSG "Spam"[edit]

Why have you not deleted the following external links?:

   * BattlestarWiki 
   A "fan" site
   * Battlestar Galactica at Scifipedia
   Another "fan" site
   * Official Battlestar Galactica: CCG Website
   A commercial-link to a manufacturer's site selling a BSG-related product

Your contention that my link is "non relevant to the article" is ridiculous. How is a link to a podcast who's sole subject is the subject of the article "non relevant to the article?" Alight 15:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Wanton Edits On The Jericho Pages[edit]

Matthew, enough is enough. The recent edits you've made on the pages for unaired episodes were wanton and unnecessary. You deleted them without taking note of the nature of the subject material, and by all accounts you did so only because *I* posted the information.

Again, enough is enough. It's become very obvious that you're trying to "own" the Jericho pages like you've done over on the Lost ones. I could care less what you do to the Lost pages, as I've AbZero interest in that series. But what you're doing is *causing* the disruption of Wikipedia that your so-called rules prohibit.

Stop. Now. Contribute positively *without* censoring out of spite. 66.90.151.114 21:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Your comments would have more weight if you weren't using an anonymous account. Might I suggest creating a username, and providing diffs of your concerns? --Elonka 01:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Rather than playing the "alias" card, how about just scanning Matthew's talk page archive before you blindly defend him? The sheer number of complaints about his wanton editing should point out to you just how in the wrong he is. 66.90.151.114 02:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

BSG Page[edit]

Excuse me, but can you please point me to where it indicates you are the owner of the BSG page and the sole arbiter of what constitutes spam?

I'm going to end this edit war at this time, because your maturity level precludes me from carrying on a civil discourse with you on this matter. I hope you are happy with the many "friends" you seem to have made on Wikipedia with your antics. Live and be well. Alight 14:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

That's our Matthew. Some egos just won't die. 66.90.151.114 02:19, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

b5 template[edit]

Yeah, I noticed it messed up some articles and I was trying to figure out how to fix it. Sometimes it looks better if it's centered (like at the bottom of a short article), and sometimes better on the right. I wonder if <center> would override the template's align=right. --Fang Aili talk 20:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. It'd be cool if the optional parameter was there; thanks for offering to do it. :) --Fang Aili talk 20:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Neat, thanks for doing that. :) --Fang Aili talk 21:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Um, regarding your vote on the recent RfA; you have placed it in the wrong section – and that user is a very recent; I wonder why you ended up supporting him. — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 14:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Happens to me all the time. LOL. — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 14:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You may be interested[edit]

Hi - I saw that here you used and emoticon, using {{[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]}} - this sort of spurred me into creating a single template to do all sorts of emoticons, both with :) forms, :-) and =) (with all the other feelings too). You can see it at {{emot}} - just thought I'd let you know, if you're interested :P Martinp23 16:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad you like it :D Martinp23 17:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MichaelBillington[edit]

If you want, could you explain what problem you find with Image:2006 census Australia.png, which you cited in your opposition to MichaelBillington's RfA? I can't figure out what you see wrong with it, so it might be a good idea to clarify your comment (although it's probably just me being stupid and not seeing something Wink.png). Thanks. --Slowking Man 20:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

AlexLips[edit]

He also edited the Heroes (Disambiguation) page, removing the NBC Heroes show off of it. Heroes (Disambiguation). I fix it already. I'd say just ban him, if you have that power. --Cpryd001 11:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

RE: Trivia Pages[edit]

Matthew, are you planning on eliminating the trivia sections for the Battlestar Galactica pages as you did on the Jericho pages? Just curious. 24.242.148.169 03:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Good question, Matty. Any answer? 66.90.151.114 02:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:WAF[edit]

Please try reading WP:WAF which details how articles about fiction should be written. The articles I tagged are all written in the In-universe style, which is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. 75.105.178.150 17:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Re; BSGWiki[edit]

Our first attempt to move failed. We are moving again. I can not disclose what host yet, but myself and joe are working on it. Shane (talk/contrib) 23:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Battlestar Pegasus[edit]

With regards to the Battlestar Pegasus article, you deleted the text:

"Glen Larsen, producer of Battlestar Galactica, attempted a revival in the late 1990s with a feature film project using Commander Cain and the Battlestar Pegasus."

and left the edit summary "Uncited and liekly fan cruft so exterminate." It took all of ten seconds for me to do a quick Google search and confirm the information. All I'm asking is that you take the time to check out plausible information, rather than just deleting it and leaving a sarcastic comment. --Ckatzchatspy 09:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

RE: Colonial Defender[edit]

Yeah I seen the ship in the show so I wasn't sure how to handle it being in the list or not. If a fan made it, cool, but the source for it looked suspicious. I didn't want to argue with those anon users who want to keep putting it back. Cyberia23 22:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I heard a rumor than an RPG for BSG is in the works - if anything, it might be a good sourcebook for behind the scenes like the Firefly RPG. Maybe they'll list all the ships of the fleet and then we'll know for sure. Some people may still consider an RPG non-canon though, but it's been accepted in the Firefly articles. Cyberia23 22:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah I was thinking of merging Cloud 9 as well, I merged Astral Queen and the length of it's article was about the same. I dunno. I'll wait and see if Astral Queen causes a stir. If not, then maybe merge Cloud 9 too, seeing that she's been blown up an all. It may never be mentioned again. Cyberia23 00:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

SC-4[edit]

While you may disagree with the headings change, undoing all of my edits was unnecessary -- your reversion included ridiculous misspellings, stylistic inconsistencies (armour? armor?) and other stuff. Please be more careful.

As for the headings: unless you're going to put some specific text under "Technological specifications", it is unnecessary and makes the outline of the article unneccessary "complicated", i.e. the article doesn't need subsubsubheaders when subsubheaders will do. Even those subsub headers seem pretty flimsy, what with a single sentence each; they should probably just be collapsed into an overall blurb on the shuttle. --EEMeltonIV 13:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Italics[edit]

Please refer to the MOS in its entirety for when it is appropriate to use italics.

Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(text_formatting)#Italic_type

"Use italics for [. . . ] Ships such as RMS Titanic"

--EEMeltonIV 13:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

No, nor do I see anything that specifies that they must be real-world ships. Doing a quick survey of various other franchises' articles in Wikipedia, you'll see that the general consensus seems to follow the notion of italicizing fake ships, too. FYI, the MOS sample text for writing about fiction italicizes a ship class name. --EEMeltonIV 13:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You have created a ridiculous strawman. Can you show me in a Trek article where a similar string of italicized ship names appears? Regardless: if that were the article, then, yes, they should be italicized per the MOS. If you think it's ugly, consider re-writing the sentence, since it's poorly written anyhow. But, to address your tangential strawman: check out Battle of Trafalgar and Battle of Midway. Back to the actual MOS point: please tell me where in the MOS it says not to italicize fictional ships' names. --EEMeltonIV 13:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You are selectively winnowing in on a "pointer" for use of italics but ignoring the more specific heads up I previously mentioned: the MOS says ship titles should be italicized, and does not differentiate between fiction, nonfiction, first mention or subsequent mentions. It also points out that many other things should be italicized, like book titles. Is it your contention that books should only be italicized, what, the first time they're mentioned on their article pages, but not beyond that? Do foreign words get italicized only once per article, and otherwise are not? Your proposed alteration to the Star Trek project I think will just make the pages look inconsistent. A better idea, for Trek articles and all the others, is simply to avoid unnecessary repetition and to write tighter material. But, where a ship name (fictional or real, or a book, or a movie, or whatever) appears, it should be italicized. --EEMeltonIV
Space Shuttle Challenger. Apollo 17--EEMeltonIV 14:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You changed tacks and suggested that the MOS bit about italicizing "ships" doesn't apply because the Trek articles are about *space*ships. Well, the vessels in those two articles have their names italicized. --EEMeltonIV 14:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I have no interest in having an IM conversation. Perhaps this other line from the MOS will help clarify: "Italics are mainly used to emphasize certain words. Italics for emphasis should be used sparingly." My emphasis added: yes, when used to emphasize a word, italics shouldn't be overdone. However, in those other areas -- book titles, (space)ship names, foreign words, etc. etc. -- they should consistently be italicized. --EEMeltonIV 14:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Removing tags[edit]

Please do not remove tags from images such as you did to Image:Kristen bell.jpg without resolving the underlying issue. Thanks. --Yamla 15:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You said: "The issue is resolved thank you very much :)"

I can't find where you showed that it would be impossible to create a free image of this living person. Can you please point this out to me? --Yamla 15:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "Everything is impossible until done."
Sorry, that is not a sufficient grounds to claim an image is not replaceable and is not grounds for removing the replaceable tag. Please reread WP:FUC. --Yamla 15:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You have provided no evidence that a free equivalent could not be created. Given that this is a living person, a free equivalent could easily be created. An image of a living person only meets the first criteria if the person is in hiding or has changed markedly from an earlier picture and it is important to show the person as they appeared in the earlier picture. Such is not the case here. --Yamla 16:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "I've provided plenty of evidence to you before.. the only way you could "easily" get a picture is if you where to "stalk" the person.. that is not easy and is also agaisnt the law. Again.. read and heed to what i ahve bolded."
Oh come off it. This person is regularly in the public eye. Wikipedia is not permitted to use copyrighted non-free images solely to depict living people unless there are special circumstances. This was decided by Jimbo Wales and the Wikipedia Foundation. Claiming that you have to stalk a living person who is in the public eye to get a freely licensed photograph is simply false and will not fly here. Please refrain from removing this tag from any further images unless you provide reason to believe the person is dead or in hiding, or that otherwise it is not possible to create a free image of that person. --Yamla 16:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "Can you provide eveidence otherwise? I've provided plenty showing its not so easy."
It makes no difference if it is easy or not. The criteria is whether or not it is possible. Given that a freely-licensed image of Kristen Bell "could be created that would adequately give the same information", it fails WP:FUC. --Yamla 16:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
If you don't like the policy, please propose a replacement policy. Until this is done and accepted, however, please refrain from removing any more replaceable tags from living people. --Yamla 16:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Note also that the first criteria specifically states, "if the subject of the photograph still exists, a freely-licensed photograph could be taken." Given that Kristen Bell is still alive, any images not freely licensed explicitly and clearly fail WP:FUC. --Yamla 16:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thank you for bringing the issue up on the Fair use discussion page. While I may disagree with your change, I do appreciate you discussing it in the appropriate forum. --Yamla 16:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:AGF[edit]

Hi Matthew,

Keep all - "Wikipedia is not censored against something you one day dislike."

— MatthewFenton

.

I find it kind of offensive (and probably borderline violation of WP:AGF) for you to insinuate that I have anything against the articles I nominated for deleteion. It has nothing to do with my "like" or "dislike" of a list of TV channels or stations -- I have no feelings either way about such a trivial subject, and I don't let personal feelings cloud wikijudgement. I simply applied an appropriate policy per wikipedia norm. Thanks! /Blaxthos 18:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

hahaha, probably the fact that I'm the sole voice for delete? ;-) /Blaxthos 19:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: userpage[edit]

Yeah, I like it. Not a lot of content, but I guess you don't need to have that much. :)

And yeah, I've been blocking a lot of people on MSN for the time being because I have massive loads of term papers and studying to do. Sorry about that. -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 05:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

BSG: Other References[edit]

I was moving stuff from another page. I didn't like the material, but thought it was better here than there. You were right to remove it and I only reverted it to make it clear what I had done. I was hsppy you reverted it again, and I'm not going to revert it because what I wanted to do was done. Sorry if you thought I was starting a revert war over it.

Duggy 1138 23:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that content is kept in history, but it's hidden. I moved it in case the original creator lost track/didn't visit for a while. I wouldn't have deleted it from the original page for the reasons you did (although I agree they were perfectly valid reasons and I'm glad you did.) I did, however, in the move take out a chuck that really was pointless (noting a goof in terminology).

Duggy 1138 00:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Have you checked out the Comparisons page? I'm not completely sure about it. Something doesn't seem right... I just get the feeling it shouldn't be there or it should be better edited... or something. What do you think?
Duggy 1138 00:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I understand your thinking and was just having similar thoughts. The mini-series needs to be an "episode", but it seems to be more of a defacto "universe" page. It will probably take quite a bit of work an some fighting.
Anyway, I should probably get back to work.
Duggy 1138 00:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Reversions[edit]

Please keep a closer eye out for various changes when wholly reverting an article. In hindsight, you were right that where I moved the SC-4 picture uglified things. However, in rv. to a wholly different version of the article, you also restored a crappy not-English sentence. Yes, pot kettle black considering my "correction" to the DS9 article. Still, thought it worthwhile to point it out. --EEMeltonIV 01:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Revert to Miranda class starship (Star Trek)[edit]

Why have you removed this? That a further ship class has been depicted in the series by a reuse of the Miranda-class model seems entirely appropriate content for the article about the Miranda-class model. The sentence I added neither says nor implies that the Bozeman was identified as a Miranda class ship: it explicitly says it was identified as a Soyuz class. Is real-world information inappropriate on articles about fiction? Morwen - Talk 08:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Check memory alpha, the background section "It was originally hoped that a new design could be developed for the Soyuz-class, but practical considerations dictated the reworking of the existing USS Reliant model originally built for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The modifications were designed by Greg Jein and Michael Okuda.". I am sure that with not too much effort this story can be sourced exactly within Okuda's reference materials.
The Soyuz doesn't have a page, that's the point. I figured that Miranda class starship (Star Trek) was a more useful place for it to redirect than a big list of ships by classes. Morwen - Talk 08:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Can I just ask whether you are actually doubting this is true or did I just rub you up the wrong way on another page? Morwen - Talk 08:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Plenty of in-universe sources note the close similarity in the ship designs as well, though! Frankly, the variance between the Reliant and the Soyuz isn't much bigger than the variant within the Reliant class, and I wouldn't be sure all those ships have been identified in dialog as Reliant class anyhow. startrek.com notes link in-universe. I gather from internetting that Sternbach wrote an article mentioning the link in Star Trek Magazine at some point. The factoid about the model re-use must come from the Chronology or Encyclopedia or somesuch. Morwen - Talk 08:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Right, I have gone out and purchased a copy of the Encyclopedia. It both backs up the Okuda/Jein claim in the italicised backstage part, and also in the the main part of the entry it calls it a "variant on the Miranda-class starship". It also includes a crossreference to the Soyuz entry in the Miranda entry. Is this good enough? Morwen - Talk 13:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

"Enterprise" template[edit]

Please stop removing this template - it is appropriate, useful, and most definitely not speculative. If you have a problem, please DISCUSS it first on the talk page. --Ckatzchatspy 09:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

is/was?[edit]

Hey man, I remember you telling me before that creative works are is and not was, recently Babylon 5 was changed to was I changed it back to is but have just been reverted, is "was" correct in the B5 article isntead of "is"? thanks Deus Sum (Matthew Fenton) (talk · contribs · count · email) 11:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

You are right, and Cain Mosni is wrong, though obviously well-intentioned. CovenantD and I have restored and expanded on the correction, and I've posted an explanation at Talk:Babylon 5#Tenses. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

AIM[edit]

I have an AIM account but I rarely use it. What did you want to talk about? Cyberia23 04:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Kristen_bell.jpg[edit]

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Adria[edit]

no offense, but why do you revert almost all my recent edits the last few weeks? the Adria article is a mess, whether you like to admit it or not... i would even consider it impressive if you had even read the latest version i edited... Maartentje 22:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

what looks messy or not is really subjective, just like "losing the flow". and if the article was perfect as it is, why should it be rewritted according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Stargate? and off course i restructured it, the newer version is alsmost twice as long, off course it should be a little restructured... Maartentje 22:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

i always thought wikipedia users tried to encourage people to contribute instead of insulting others because they make some typos... Maartentje 22:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: fyi[edit]

Ah. Hrm. Tricky, they're being pretty disruptive, but they've only had one warning before I stepped in. I have a hunch this'll end up leading to a block, but I'll see if I can talk them out of it. They seem to have stopped for now, which is good, but if they keep up and I don't notice, feel free to grab me. Luna Santin 19:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks[edit]

Höckerschwan mit ausgebreiteten-Flügeln.jpg
Thank you for the extra feathers on my wings!

Thank you so much, MatthewFenton, for your support in my RfA, which passed on November 11, 2006, with a final tally of 82/0/2. I am humbled by the kind support of so many fellow Wikipedians, and I vow to continue to work and improve with the help of these new tools. Should you have any request, do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Húsönd 19:43, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Weapons + other edits[edit]

I will meet you halfway and restore ancillary references/apparances to the neater <ref> tag format. However, initial and first appearances should be explicated in the text to establish notability/significance. Please give me a few minutes to work through and combine your version with my edits and take a gander. I'll leave a note here.

As a side note, I'll again point out that your reverts also undid other worthwhile tightening of language, spelling corrections, and so on. --EEMeltonIV 20:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Take a gander.--EEMeltonIV 20:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Your behaviour[edit]

Matthew: I'm going to put aside the objectionable, insulting manner in which you chose to leave a message on my talk page for now. I think you should really look carefully at your actions on Wikipedia, and how they affect other editors. I am certainly not alone in taking issue with the manner in which you conduct yourself. With regards to Omicom's imageimage that you removed from Hero (Battlestar Galactica), you could have avoided this whole exchange if you had just added a summary as to WHY you were removing it. Otherwise, it gives the appearance in the edit history that you were trying to hide something. --Ckatzchatspy 21:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Ffef logo.PNG[edit]

Thanks for point this out. I have gone and added the rationale.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 15:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:WOTV Xmas e e9dccc5a8b3a5c9a5fe3ecc865cb9a19.jpg[edit]

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not retaliation[edit]

I did not review your images in relatiation, it is simply another user to review. Have a look at my contributions and you will see I have been reviewing and nominating a lot of images for a lot of users. I will freely admit that reviewing your images now is because of your message, but I have been reviewing the images of users who leave me messages on my talk page. It is but one of the resources I use to find new images to review. Have a look at my user page project section, you will see I have quite a number of searches on the go currently. My talk page is simply one of the avenues. I am sorry you felt I was targeting you.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 16:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Our paths have crossed at JericoLOE, and elsewhere. Because we share interests seems irrelivent.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 16:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
It is so kind of you to assume good faith on my edits. Much thanks.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 16:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Episode list of The Nine[edit]

Hello, I have been noticing you sending me messages over and over again about me removing the screenshots of the episode list of The Nine. Well, if you think I am trying to do vandalism here, I am only removing the screenshots because it is unnecessary for this article to have screenshots for each episode because no one cares about seeing pictures of an episode, so could you please stop sending me messages everytime I make an edit to the Episode list of The Nine, thanks.--Jimmysal 20:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:FUC[edit]

Your argument that to create a replaceable free image of a living person requires that we stalk that person holds no water. Your proposal to change WP:FUC was soundly defeated. WP:FUC specifically states, "However, if the subject of the photograph still exists, a freely-licensed photograph could be taken." If I catch you doing this again, I will block you for trolling. If you don't like the policy, work again to change the policy. This is not grounds to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}} to the image, however, and this is your last warning. --Yamla 23:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

You said: "Your making threats now because you cannot get your own way? and making out of process deletions? - The only reason I can see why you have deleted it is to cover up the dispute to keep it which I provided with detail. You may also like to read WP:CIVIL."

Let me reiterate. WP:FUC says, "However, if the subject of the photograph still exists, a freely-licensed photograph could be taken." In the case of Kristen Bell, the subject of the photograph still exists as she is a living person. Your claim that obtaining one would require stalking her is bogus and you are well aware that this is not Wikipedia's interpretation of the policy. If you refuse to adhere to WP:FUC, you will be blocked. You may have your own unique interpretation of WP:FUC or you may disagree with WP:FUC but I am here to tell you that non-freely-licensed images of living people are not permitted except in extreme circumstances (such as the person being in hiding). Your interpretation of the policy is not relevant. I have explained this to you over and over again. You have tried to have the policy changed but failed. It is my job to hold you to the policy. If you are unwilling to live by Wikipedia's policies, you will be blocked. --Yamla 23:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "Could - In otherwords possibly.. a might be able to.. a try your best.. could != must."
You are misreading this. What it is asking you to do is to check to see if the subject of the photograph still exists. If the subject still exists then a freely-licensed photograph could be taken. That is, the assumption is that it is possible to take a freely-licensed photograph. The sentence is stating that the assumption is for living people, it is possible to take a freely-licensed photograph. It is not trying to state that you should do your best to take a freely-licensed image but otherwise a fair-use image is acceptable. You may disagree with this, but that is what you will be held to regarding WP:FUC. --Yamla 23:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "That is your interpretation of the FUC."
Yes, and as an administrator, it is my responsibility to block you if you violate this policy. You are well aware that my interpretation is not unique. WP:FUC is written so as to prohibit non-freely-licensed images from being used to depict living people. You know this because you specifically tried to change it. That's all I have to say on this topic. If you continue to violate WP:FUC, I will block you. --Yamla 23:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA Thanks[edit]

Adminmop-no.png Mike's RfA Thanks
MatthewFenton: Thanks very much for your support at my RfA. Unfortunately, it was clear that no consensus was going to be reached, and I have withdrawn the request at a final tally of 31/17/5. Regardless, I really appreciate your confidence in me. Despite the failure, rest assured that I will continue to edit Wikipedia as before. If all goes well, I think that I will re-apply in January or February. - Mike | Talk 04:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Infobox actor[edit]

Hi, I was just wondering what more you feel needs to be done in order to reach a consensus on the "height" field in the Template:Infobox actor. I notice that you haven't said very much during any of the long discussion that has been taking place, so I'd be interested to know how you would like to try to work towards consensus. Obviously I see that you want to keep the field, but I would like to discuss further the issue of consensus and what you currently believe is lacking. Could you also clarify what you mean by the "for now at least" comment on your recent edit where you indicated you wanted to keep the field. Thanks Rossrs 07:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

66[edit]

Hi Matthew - Thanks for the heads-up. Yonmei 15:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes. ed g2stalk 16:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for adding the disambig template at Weight Of The World - I forgot to add it. BTW, I also found a separate redirect at Weight of the World (lower-case "of" and "the") which points to a band's album. I'm going to redirect that page to WOTW. --Ckatzchatspy 09:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, what do you think - should the disambig be at Weight of the World, lower-case "of and "the", with a redirect from Weight Of The World, or the other way (as it is now)? Thoughts? --Ckatzchatspy 09:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Swapped. Again, thanks for the help. --Ckatzchatspy 09:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

screenshots[edit]

They should only be used in prose, next to text discussing the contents of the image. So, yes. ed g2stalk 17:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Frack Off, Matthew[edit]

I'll "blank" whatever I deem fit on my Talk Page. Deal with it. Sixty Six 21:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hope so![edit]

Well, if there's anything I can clear up for you so that you're more than a "Considering" member of the Battlestar Galactica Wikiproject, please don't hesitate to leave a message. --BlueSquadronRaven 21:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Mommy's Bosses (The 4400 episode). Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. NCurse work 22:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

not sure what this warning is for? nothing jumps out at me from Matthew's edits on the article? --Charlesknight 22:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Revert[edit]

I reverted your edit because you removed an AfD message. But anyway, sorry for that. :) NCurse work 22:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I will contact with the VP2 maintainers. Cheers, NCurse work 22:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Jericho revert[edit]

Matthew - just a reminder to err on the side of caution when you revert. While your point was valid with regards to the production numbers, it would have been better to check over the entire edit before undoing it. In this particular case, four other valid edits were also removed at the same time. I've restored the material, and removed what I'm presuming you intended to take out - the production number. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 08:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Marco Polo[edit]

Poease don0t reve tag! The article has been vanalized several times. Edit war occured, let the tag and contact an adminstrator, the article must be protected! Please--Giovanni Giove 13:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Kristen Bell[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Recently concluded (2006 November). The deletion of the image for Kristen Bell was endorsed. Note that this is an affirmation that the fair-use policy was correctly followed, not necessarily that the image itself could never be appropriate for the Wikipedia. --Yamla 19:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

{{Galactica-stub}}[edit]

This new stub went through proposal and approval at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals prior to being created. There were found to be sufficient related articles for the new stub category, so it went ahead. --BlueSquadronRaven 23:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

"Shakla"[edit]

I've noticed on two seperate occasions where you've refered to me as "Shakla"

I have to say i'm really quite confused. There is no user existing by the name "Shakla", it's got nothing to do with my username Yaksha, and the use of it on the wikiproject stargate suggests it was very intentional.

Exactly what does "shakla" mean and why are you calling me that? --`/aksha 06:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

"What" <<<i'm asking you what the word "Shakla" means and why you are calling me that. Or where you not referring to me at all in those two examples i pointed out? (the two quotes are what you said). --`/aksha 11:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Look, i'm not trying to pick a fight over this. I'm honestly confused, that's all. Last time i checked, my signiture does state my name. It says "Yaksha", with the "Y" written in leet. So i have no idea how you could have gotten "Shakla" from it.
Anyhow, it's no big deal. But i would appreciate it if you actually used my username as is in future. --`/aksha 11:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks[edit]

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Thank you for the Support

I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, MatthewFenton, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong :P! Thanks, Martinp23 14:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Quit the abuse of [rollback]..[edit]

You said: "Hello. Please do not abuse the [rollback] button. Furthermore the image you removed is allowed per the FUC as it is providing critical commentary within a body of text, is unrepeatable, and an un-free picture of Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine would be unobtainable. I advise you to self revert."

No violation occurred. Until you added the necessary information, the image had a false license, no source, and no rationale. --Yamla 18:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "Yes. I had to figure that out however.. and would of never had I not seen your contribs.. this is why you don't [rollback] good faith edits.. if you leave a summary i'd known this and we could avoid the confusion :-)"
I did inform the uploading editor about the multiple violations on that image. As a serious and honest question, do you believe it is inappropriate to use administrator rollback to revert violations of Wikipedia policy such as the addition of this image? Please don't take offense at my question, I'm not trying to get a rise out of you. You subsequently fixed the problem with the image, even though you did not upload it. I ask you this because my understanding is that it is reasonable to use rollback to enforce violations of policy, particularly when combined with notifications of the violation. In this case, though, my notification was only to the editor who uploaded the image. --Yamla 18:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, I'd like to know if you would have been satisfied had I left a message on this page (perhaps a templated message) explaining why your change was reverted. That is, in your opinion, is it reasonable to use rollback in such a circumstance? --Yamla 18:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
(You left some comments, and then I replied with:) It was still your responsibility to ensure that the image had a detailed fair-use rationale for that particular article. Fair-use rationales which attempt to justify the use of the image on all Wikipedia articles are not valid (point #10 on WP:FUC, rationale must indicate the name of the article the rationale is for). I understand your concern, though, and frankly I'm a little surprised at myself that I didn't give you a note as to why the image was removed. Thank you for taking the time to clearly spell out your concerns, I appreciate it. I will try not to make this mistake again. --Yamla 19:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Watching BSG in England[edit]

Matt, I take it you live in England - if so, I was wondering if you're actually able to watch the 3rd season of BSG as I thought it wasn't airing yet in the UK. Cyberia23 20:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Signature[edit]

Your signature. amongst many others, is being affected by my clear-up of {{·}} which you have included therein. As it currently stands, your signature falls foul of WP:SIG in several ways:

Length 
your signature is extraordinarily long and takes up entirely too much space in the edit-box
Transclusion/template 
your signature includes a template, which is supposed to be impossible: I can only assume that you have managed to bypass the hard-wired restriction by transcluding from another template, because the system automatically SUBSTitutes templates in signature.
External links 
your signature includes an external link. You will no doubt point out that it is a link to the Toolserver: the guideline makes no distinction. If you wish to propose some sort of alteration to the guideline, please feel free.

In light of the above, I am requesting that you radically prune your signature: the reduced version to which I am changing it has been found to be perfectly adequate in similar circumstances. Indeed, the minimal default signature—which is simply a link to your user-page—is perfectly acceptable. At the very least, I would advise adjusting it to avoid the problems I list above. Until you at least remove {{·}}, your contributions will continue to appear in my AWB list and I will continue to fix them. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 16:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Kafziel's RfA[edit]

Make up your mind. You went through all three votes already lol. Also, please clean up your votes, because it appears quite confusing to the unsuspecting reader. Nishkid64 22:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

If you're not voting, then can you just add your comments to the Discussion section and remove all the strikethrough's? By the way, admins have lives, if you haven't noticed. Nishkid64 22:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI re: disambiguation templates[edit]

Matthew: Just so you know, I've moved the disambiguation template back to the top of Jericho (TV series). Editors often move that template for esthetic purposes, so that infoboxes line up with the top of the page. However, Wikipedia guidelines caution against doing so, as it creates problems for people who use screen readers, which get messed up by the code in the infobox templates. --Ckatzchatspy 20:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Length comparisons[edit]

Excuse me, but "comparisons against" are NOT actually other words for "fan speculation suggests". Just load up the image that the reference links to, and get out a ruler, and do the math. Unless you don't believe that that size comparison image was actually produced by Zoic. *shrugs* Sullivan.t.j 14:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Or we could load it up in our favourite image editing program and count the pixels. Sullivan.t.j 14:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
So is watching "33", observing that six engines are alight, and then adding to the Galactica's article that she has six sublight engines. It's a calculation, done by a fan! How is stating the figure, with appropriate references, out of line? Zoic, remember, aren't fans: the attributes that they say Galactica has, and can be observed to have, it has. Same goes for figures publicised by RDM, and we have those in Wikipedia articles. Sullivan.t.j 14:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The image does not need to have a scale on it for us to be able to compare the length of the Nimitz class aircraft carrier (as shown, with a known real-world length) to the length of the Galactica. No units required, just the ability to multiply/divide. Granted, we will not get an exact answer, but at least one that is accurate to within 100m or so, which I think is information that readers might like to have. Or will you only settle for exact figures? Sullivan.t.j 15:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
An properly referenced approximation, well-based off an official Zoic publication, is better than nothing, even if it's not exact. Sullivan.t.j 15:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
So, in other words, your issue is that the image that claims to be a Zoic publication is not a verifiable source? Sullivan.t.j 15:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Length comparisons[edit]

Excuse me, but "comparisons against" are NOT actually other words for "fan speculation suggests". Just load up the image that the reference links to, and get out a ruler, and do the math. Unless you don't believe that that size comparison image was actually produced by Zoic. *shrugs* Sullivan.t.j 14:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Or we could load it up in our favourite image editing program and count the pixels. Sullivan.t.j 14:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
So is watching "33", observing that six engines are alight, and then adding to the Galactica's article that she has six sublight engines. It's a calculation, done by a fan! How is stating the figure, with appropriate references, out of line? Zoic, remember, aren't fans: the attributes that they say Galactica has, and can be observed to have, it has. Same goes for figures publicised by RDM, and we have those in Wikipedia articles. Sullivan.t.j 14:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The image does not need to have a scale on it for us to be able to compare the length of the Nimitz class aircraft carrier (as shown, with a known real-world length) to the length of the Galactica. No units required, just the ability to multiply/divide. Granted, we will not get an exact answer, but at least one that is accurate to within 100m or so, which I think is information that readers might like to have. Or will you only settle for exact figures? Sullivan.t.j 15:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
An properly referenced approximation, well-based off an official Zoic publication, is better than nothing, even if it's not exact. Sullivan.t.j 15:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
So, in other words, your issue is that the image that claims to be a Zoic publication is not a verifiable source? Sullivan.t.j 15:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Look, we have two possibilities. Either (a) the image may be taken as a Zoic publication, or (b), it can't. If (a), then we can extract an estimate for Galactica's length that is accurate to within 100m or so, which I contend is an estimate good enough to be of interest to our readers (if published with appropriate references). If (b), you're right, and the estimate we obtain shouldn't be published. I'm not twisting words: I'm trying to get to the core of your objection: it seems that it can't be the maths, so it must be the validity of the image itself. Sullivan.t.j 15:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Are we actually looking at the same image? I see one with a Zoic logo, a side and top view of the Galactica and a side and top view of a Nimitz class carrier. Your comments seem to suggest that you haven't even looked at the image to which I linked, because you haven't yet answered my question: do you consider that Zoic image genuine or not? Sullivan.t.j 15:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for answering the question. Now we're getting somewhere. Now, given that the image is genuine, why would it be inappropriate to add to the article something like the following? "Based on an image released by Zoic Studios (see [13]), the Galactica appears to be about four times the length of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, i.e. around 1,250 metres." Seriously, if even properly referenced guesses in which the methodology of the guess is clear are to be removed from Wikipedia, we'd better start removing large swathes of literary criticism, historical opinion, and even scientific hypotheses and conclusions! I'm more than willing to comporomise to see useful approximate information put on site, when accompanied by appropriate disclaimers. Your attitude appears to be far more strict. Sullivan.t.j 15:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Nowiki tags[edit]

I'm not sure why you reverted the nowiki tags. The reason they're used is to prevent the apostrophe from being italicized (which it shouldn't, since it's not part of the ship name). The wiki parser interprets three consecutive ' marks where one is unmatched as an apostrophe then the closing italics. The nowiki tags prevent this from happening. -- Fru1tbat 15:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Depending on your resolution/font size/whatever, you may not see a difference (on one of my PCs, for example, boldfacing doesn't show up on italicized text of a certain size, whereas on another PC it looks like it's supposed to), but it's definitely different, and the nowiki tags will make it display properly for other users. -- Fru1tbat 16:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Lost naming conventions[edit]

Where are the "Lost naming conventions" that you have referenced? -- Wikipedical 20:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe that he's referring to WP:LOST/Episode guidelines, which is what was agreed to at the end of the mediation.[14], though it's been through some edit wars since then, and the "naming" part is currently deleted. --Elonka 00:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Jumper bay[edit]

really? in what episode did we see it? fine, the return part II, but please reference it, as most of us unascended beings haven't seen that ep yet... Maartentje 21:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Veronica Mars.jpg[edit]

You stated, "I personally had a quick look at that page today and there was no boilerplate and there was a fair use rationale.. it appears you are now making out of process deletions with false deletion reasons?"

No. Rationales must be specific to the article it is being used in. This was not done for that image and so the image was deleted according to process as having been marked as missing a rationale for more than seven days. Please see WP:FUC. --Yamla 15:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
You said: "It wasn't marked.. and you know as well as I even if it was it is a {{sofixit}} situation."
It was marked on October 18, 2006. If you wish, I will undelete it and you can provide a detailed fair-use rationale for each use. --Yamla 15:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleting comments[edit]

Please be mindful not to delete other users' comments -- e.g. mine on Talk:Enterprise (NX-01). --EEMeltonIV 23:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Good point about the edit conflict. Hadn't even occurred to me. Sorry. --EEMeltonIV 23:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Typos[edit]

Was their a pointe two your coment about tipos, or are you just trolling? --EEMeltonIV 23:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Mediation request[edit]

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television), and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 03:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Greeks Bearing Gifts[edit]

Just FYI, if you revert the image one more time you'll be in violation of WP:3RR. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 16:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Read WP:3RR properly. My initial upload, as a replacement, doesn't count as a revert. If I revert one more time, yes, I am in violation, but I'm only up to three. Your first reversion to your original, however, does count as one, so you're up to three as well. If you revert my last reversion, you'll be four. But do feel free to report it. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 16:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Mediation question[edit]

Hi, Matthew. I know that it hasn't been long since I started the RFM, but I was wondering whether you plan to agree to mediation or not. I only ask because I noticed that you edited the RFM page, but didn't indicate your agreement, which seems odd to me. No pressure or anything — I was just curious. You don't have a problem with formal mediation on this issue, do you? —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 16:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

(Copied from User talk:Josiah Rowe#Med.) No, I do not have a problem with it. However I am woeful to agree at present as I do not know who will mediate, which slightly worries me. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I think part of the idea of formal mediation is that all members of the MedCom are trusted Wikipedians with extensive mediation experience. Wikipedia:Mediation#Who will mediate? addresses the issue: as I understand it, if you don't trust the MedCom members, you're not trusting the mediation process. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 18:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

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Oh, the humanity!

I had my doubts about a second RfA, but even I couldn't have predicted the way it caught fire and inexorably drifted to the ground in flames, causing quite a stir on its way down. Still, it was encouraging to see the level of support and confidence. Thank you for taking the time to rethink your stance. I hope I'll still have your support the next time around. Kafziel Talk 13:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI re: disambiguation templates[edit]

Matthew: We've talked about moving disambiguation templates from the top of pages before, but you asked me to provide you with the relevant Manual of Style reference. It's part of the Wikipedia accessibility guidelines (WP:WAI), and the specific section is here:

"Disambiguation links should be the first elements of the page, before any image or infobox. A text only browser or screen reader present the page sequentially, and otherwise the dablink will be read between the image and the lead section."

It's a common mistake, as many editors move the top-of-page templates for esthetic purposes. However, it creates problems for people who use screen readers. Hope this helps. --Ckatzchatspy 08:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

source[edit]

The ultimate source is the scripts themselves, which I have read. Joe posted about these at [15] and [16] and [17]. Morwen - Talk 16:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

And further, this website has reviews of the scripts. Morwen - Talk 16:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Overlap[edit]

Hey... seems we have some similar interests, at least as far as sci-fi goes... Jericho, Galactica - do you follow Heroes? Anyways, your tweaks to the Jericho episode list popped up - I made a minor tweak to the lead paragraph as the image was dropping into the table area, causing the table to resize. This left a big white space on the right, while leaving the "Specials" table at full width. Let me know if you've got a more elegant way to achieve the same result. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 09:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... is there a way to force the table to draw below the image, other than with line spacing? Otherwise, we'll still have problems on some display/browser combinations. --Ckatzchatspy 09:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Edit overlap... my previous comment was written (or at least thought about) before your "100%" change, which seems to do the trick. I was referring to my "kludge", which wouldn't necessarily hold up under every browser/display combination. Thanks! --Ckatzchatspy 09:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again - I didn't know about the "-" template. That will come in handy. --Ckatzchatspy 09:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
That's a lot of sci-fi (but can you ever have too much?!? You're in the UK, aren't you? If so, what's up there sci-fi-wise? Aside from the venerable Dr. Who eps, I also recall stuff like Blake's 7 from years back, and the later Red Dwarf of course. Anything contemporary that doesn't make it across the pond? --Ckatzchatspy 09:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out the Tylium article[edit]

Check this out... The Tylium article has a bunch of scientific mumbo-jumbo added I have no idea where this guy Ylai got the info from. He said it was directly from the reimagined series,episode "1x10", and thats no episode I ever heard of. I don't recall anytime where Baltar scientifically discussed Tylium. Do you know what Ylai is talking about? Cyberia23 21:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

He should have just said "Hand of God", I get it now though. Cyberia23 22:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I see he did reference it, since I didn't remember Baltar's Tylium rant it just looked suspiciously made up to me. Cyberia23 22:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Lonelyboy[edit]

This person just can't learn to control his anger. The static IP belonging to this person has been blocked for 6 months. We gave him a second chance, and he failed yet again. We won't make the same mistake twice. Cheers, -- THLRCCD 23:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Block log[edit]

Hello!

I have been warned by another administrator (User:Khoikhoi) for posting this comment. User:Irpen has also posted a notice on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Personal_attacks.2C_harrassment.2C_baiting_and_pestering_by_user:Oden. As you are one of the users mentioned in my comment I would value your input into this matter.

Your input in the matter would be noted with interest.

Sincerely, --Oden 12:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Insert image here.svg[edit]

I noticed you placed {{Vector version available}} on Image:IIH.png, but the SVG image did not match the the PNG in color or font size. I've made some adjustments to get them to match a bit more closely, I hope that you don't mind. --Dual Freq 14:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

wat the hell!!!![edit]

look matt! im really pissed that u deleted the rachel bilson pictures out of her profile! u better fix that cuz it took me forever to put those pictures on there!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.118.227.50 (talkcontribs) 03:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

matt![edit]

matt.....do something! when i clicked on The O.C., someone changed the picture to some wrestling thingy! i noe u could change it so............CHANGE IT! please....ur the only person i noe! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adelyna (talkcontribs) 06:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

Nevermind[edit]

the person changed it back! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adelyna (talkcontribs) 07:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

Whoniverse characters[edit]

Please go here to discuss this further. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 09:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Adding Breaks[edit]

You think adding breaks makes it more difficult to edit? I feel the opposite really, but whatever. Cyberia23 10:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

what...[edit]

do u mean by free image??? it took me forever to get those pictures...... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adelyna (talkcontribs) 22:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

Linkage[edit]

Why did you remove the link I put on the Akira Class page.. It certainly was not spam!--DaveDorm 00:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Your input is requested[edit]

Your input would be appreciated at this Request for Comments. Kelly Martin (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for Mediation[edit]

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Umm... I do not recall any "Request for Mediation" I just asked a simple question of you on your talk page. Nothing formal, just a question. And you don't seem to want to answer me. -- DaveDorm 07:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Clash of the Turtle Titans[edit]

You just voted to oppose the move of Clash of the Turtle Titans (TMNT 2003 Episode)Clash of the Turtle Titans, yet you cited WP:TV-NC as your basis. But WP:TV-NC states clearly, For an article created about a single episode, add the series name in parentheses only if there are other articles by the same name. Per this, logic based on WP:TV-NC would lead one to support this particular move, since there are no other articles with the name, Clash of the Turtle Titans. Are you sure you did not intend to vote support? --Serge 18:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Grey's Anatomy[edit]

Sorry, I didn't notice your removal of the disambiguation text from the top of Grey's Anatomy earlier today when I added the template just now. It's not on my watchlist, and I didn't think to check the history. I didn't want you to think I was unilaterally reversing your edit. I do think having it there is valid, though. Although the spellings are distinct for the name, many users are used to seeing it both ways interchangeably (since both spellings are used for the color), and I don't expect that all users who are looking for the name will know which spelling is the movie/book and which is the show. Having the dab text at the top of the article will result in less confusion. If it makes a difference, I can change the dab template to read "for other uses and spellings"... --Fru1tbat 14:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Smallville[edit]

The wiki link is for Wikia, not Wikipedia, and you don't put "external links" in every section of your page. External links go at the end of the article. Bignole 22:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

You can take one rule over the other. It's more convient to link the title of the section, whether it is a header or not. If you claim it's "silly to put them at the bottom" that's being a little hypocritical about guidelines. If you want them removed from the name, then a link to Smallville Wikia, and TV.com's main Smallville page suffices as the external link. You can't choose one over the other just because it's "silly" to you to do it the appropriate way, after you just removed the original way because of "appropriate" matters. Bignole
Here are two Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings)#Nesting. Please note the placement of "External Links". Also Wikipedia: External links#Important points to remember (the part where it says "try to avoid linking to multiple pages within the same website". Bignole 22:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, WTH?? You asked for the guidelines and I gave you 3, now you are ignoring them? How rude is that? Bignole 22:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

How about the one that says "avoid linking to multiple pages within the same website"?? Wikipedia: External links#Important points to remember. That's as clear as that "avoid links in the header. If you are going to try and claim exception for that one then exception can be made for the header links. Bignole 22:32, 9 December 206 (UTC)
You are the one puting an "external links" section in every page and linking to each episode one two different websites. When I changed it so that TV.com and Wikia links to their main Smallville page, as per the MOS says to do, you are the one that reverts to the violation of the MOS. Bignole 22:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
It's called Smallville Wikia, the entire thing is about Smallville. You guys are using this as an attempt to bypass a vote that we had about individual episode page, by trying to "fluff" the page so that it becomes too large. You obviously have not argument for why you are ignoring one guideline, and not others. This is some poor attempt to and and double-up your efforts to get your way. Bignole 22:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Considering the consensus of the vote, yeah I do...but I think what you meant to say was "You had a vote, but surely you don't think that 'we'll' abide by that vote..do you?". Bignole 22:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Dying Kat picture[edit]

I edited out the "Sci Fi" logo for ya. Cyberia23 22:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah it was pretty cool - made up for last week's rather drab episode. This one gave us some pretty good close up shots of the ships - if you have any maybe we can replace some of them on the misc ships page. Cyberia23 23:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
We could at least get a picture of the Adriatic form this episode. Cyberia23 23:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Be Wary[edit]

Those subjects Matthewfenton holds dear, such as the television show Medium (TV series), are inviolable, evidence be damned. He is a particularly difficult Wikipedian to work with. I'm not one to leave commenatary on a user's talk page, but he left me a doozy, so I am returning the favor. If you see him in a discussion about an article, be prepared to give up trying to edit it away from what he thinks it should be. Johnashby 17:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Apollo - Major or Commander?[edit]

It just occurred to me that we've been saying Apollo is a Major in the past few episodes for season 3... I thought he was made a Commander in "Captain's Hand" after Garner died. Was he demoted back to Major after Pegasus was destroyed? If so, I don't recall that ever happening. Cyberia23 23:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I figured he must have been demoted since he returned to Galactica, as Commander he technically outranked Colonel Tigh which was two ranks above Major. Cyberia23 22:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Podminions[edit]

I deleted the sign as the Etopt gave me permission. I created the page and I do not want it deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lyer (talkcontribs) 09:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

Earth Spacedock[edit]

Hi. I notice you removed the in-universe tag from this article, claiming that the fact that the article admits the thing is fictional in one sentence is sufficient to make it not be in-universe. This is not so. This would entirely negate the point of the tag, after all! The following two sections are entirely in-universe, still.

For example, the paragraph:

"To accommodate to the rapid expansion of the Federation in the late 22nd and early 23rd centuries, Starfleet began constructing a new orbital facility. For years Starfleet had only had a single-ship orbital platform for the maintaining and building of Federation starships, and it was soon recognized that a single facility was not sufficient. Spacedock One was completed and activated in 2274."

now, actually, this seems to be entirely made up, as far as I can tell. But, if this wasn't entirely made up, it would want to be written as something like

"The Earth Spacedock is first seen in the movie "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. It was explained that it had only recently opened, a decade before the setting of that movie, in order to provide for an increase in capacity for Starfleet."

See the difference? One is in-universe, the other is out-of-universe. In-universe is generally only ok for plot summaries. However, since the article appears entirely made up, this is rather moot, and the article wants far more severe work done to it. Morwen - Talk 11:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Where No Man Has Gone Before (TOS episode)[edit]

ta for the cleanup. can you think of anything else it might want to cover? I think the only thing that's properly unsourced at the moment is the original repeat date, which a random IP added. No idea how to find that. Morwen - Talk 17:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Memory Alpha would probably be a sufficient source for this sort of detail, especially since the date given is internally consistent with other dates. The perfect source would be an old TV Guide or newspaper microfilm, I suppose, but I think there's a limit to how much we can expect for perfect sourcing of each word on a non-controversial topic. Newyorkbrad 17:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

yikes[edit]

I thought posting a one-line thing saying you're running for admin on your talk page was ok. Yikes! :) Keep your vote and diff link, but I took it off on my page after you put that up. --kizzle 00:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Cylon Basestar Armaments[edit]

I agree that nuclear missiles could be referred to as "ordnance". However, the visual appearance of the "ordnance" missile strikes on Galactica in the Miniseries (and "Exodus", for that matter) is decidedly different from the visual appearance of the nuclear missile's detonation earlier in the Miniseries; the damage inflicted is also noticably less. It's also worth noting that the radiological alarm was not raised in respect of the "ordnance", as was the case with the nukes in the Miniseries, "33" and "The Captain's Hand". Taking these points together, I'd say that we have a good case that the "ordnance" that stuck Galactica during the Battle of Ragnar Anchorage was conventional, not nuclear. Your thoughts? Sullivan.t.j 01:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

You know a bit about Star Trek right?[edit]

Have a look at this.

You have 1) an unidentified rank pin, 2) a source that is "fan literature said" - surely that's the very model of Original research?

--Charlesknight 10:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:POINT[edit]

Can you please explain why you invoked this? I suggested a few merges that seem to me to be no-brainers : classes that are strongly identified with one particular ship, and have appeared only as cameo roles at other times. I have also outlined my detailed reasons for doing so. And you accuse me of violating WP:POINT. WP:POINT isn't just "hah, this user did something I disagree with".

The policy for example says that "an individual who opposes the state of a current rule or policy should not attempt to create proof that the rule does not work".

I have, in good faith, suggested some merges, and outlined principles why I think those merges a good idea. I am perfectly happy to debate the merits of the issue with people, which is why i asked for comments on the talk page prior to doing the moves. For you then to accuse me of acting in bad faith, I do not understand. I am not trying to harm Wikipedia's Star Trek coverage in any way: I am trying to make it less "fannish" and more encyclopedic, to be sure, as is fitting in an encyclopedia. I have got a list of articles to improve to featured status - I am starting with Where No Man Has Gone Before (TOS episode) and plan to move onto Spock and then probably one of the Enterprises.

But please explain. Morwen - Talk 00:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

You gave me no detailed reason about the reason Coco Pops should not be introduced as Cocoa Krispies in respect to the American company. I would also like a legitimate reason why this isn't reverse biasing. Hungry Jack's is Australia's Burger King counterpart, so if everyone else besides the US called the restaurant Hungry Jack's would that mean that the original name Burger King should be belittled for informal purposes? Not really.

The O.C.[edit]

But the picture I'm adding is of better quality. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RYANonWIKIPEDIA (talkcontribs) 11:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

Whatever, dude. Have fun with The O.C. page not being as good as it could have been.

C++ image[edit]

You said: "Yamla I feel obliged to notify you that your own image upload (C++ book image) is less then perfect ;-)"

This is a particularly good catch. However, note that the image was uploaded before detailed fair-use rationales need to be given. Nevertheless, I should take the time to add a detailed rationale just for the sake of completeness. --Yamla 18:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Eye of Jupiter[edit]

Wow, I'm surprised no one jumped on it yet. I've been kinda of busy this weekend so I haven't gotten around to it yet. I'll try later today though. Cyberia23 22:03, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

I apologize, I hadn't read through the whole thing when I reverted. Sorry.--Ryan 10:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Out of Time.jpg[edit]

Thanks, but I already uploaded a similar version (comparing the two, the blurring on mine looks a bit less obvious, so I reverted it...). --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 22:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thank you for catching and reverting the vandalism to my user page. I appreciate it. --Yamla 17:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Coco Krispies[edit]

Where was the consensus that odd spelling should be used? It's bad enough that a US product from a US company is listed under it's non-US name, but I don't see anywhere on the talk page about not using American spelling (which is better IMO since it doesn't add extra u's to words). TJ Spyke 00:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy holidays ![edit]

You may want to consider endorsing this petition: User_talk:Friday#Petition_to_recall_User:Friday_from_the_position_of_admin. StuRat 14:08, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

naming conventions[edit]

Hi. You may find reading Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(titles)#Quotation_marks interesting, particularly the bit where it says : "Titles of shorter works, such as the following, should be enclosed in double quotation marks [...] Episodes of a television series". I say this not because I feel strongly on the matter, merely noting that it's generally a good idea to check the guideline you are citing actually supports your position. Morwen - Talk 23:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

There is no definition, but it does give "episodes of a television series" as a specific example of that. Now, you are free to disagree with the appropriateness of that all you like, but it's indisputibly there in black and white (or whatever you have your colour scheme as), and it's probably much better to just to admit your mistake, revert yourself, and move on. Morwen - Talk 23:38, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Let me remind you of what you said in the edit summary
rvt. - Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles) says nothing of the such (it does however mention films and TV series.. but not episodes.
This is simply not true. Rules-lawyering about the lengths of episodes isn't going to change the simple fact that this statement is wrong. It does mention episodes. Morwen - Talk 23:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Wholesale removal of all external links from Science fiction article[edit]

While some of these are IMAO superfluous, such a massive slaughter was perhaps overkill? Please come over to the Talk:Science fiction page and let us reason together. --Orange Mike 16:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Jericho spoiler[edit]

Hi, Matthew. I notice that you've reverted the change I made to Template:Jerichonav. I made that change to remove a major plot spoiler from the template. May I ask why you reverted it? Pat Berry 02:05, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Matthew, I would appeciate it if you would reply here and not on my Talk page, so that interested parties can read the entire conversation in one place.
You responded to my query with "We don't censor against possible 'spoilers'." I'm a bit baffled by that response. First of all, who is this "we" that you are speaking for? Second, Wikepedia pages do take steps to prevent revealing plot spoilers. That is why Template:spoiler exists.
In view of the fact that the title "Mayor" is a huge plot spoiler for episode 11 of Jericho, can you please explain why you believe that information must be displayed in the navigation template, which appears in every article related to the series? The information is already available -- marked with Template:spoiler warnings -- in the articles about the winner of the election and "Vox Populi", the episode in which the election occurs. So I fail to see how it will be "censored" if it's not in the template. Pat Berry 02:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Content disclaimer / WP:CENSOR - We give due warning with {{spoiler}} - but - anything can be considered spoiler, him being Mayor isn't some "we" should censor. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 02:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Please explain why the title "Mayor" needs to be in the template at all. None of the other character names are preceded by job titles. Pat Berry 02:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
That is something only God knows, for some reason if you are Mayor/president or Sir etc. that always gets mentioned, however the "commoners" titles (Mr, Ms.) don't :-( - I wish I knew thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 02:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Please explain why you believe the title must be included in Template:Jerichonav. You reverted my removal, so you must have a compelling reason for wanting it there. Appeal to common practice is not a satisfactory answer. Pat Berry 02:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Matthew, I generally agree that we do not remove things simply for the sake of them being a spoiler alone, but there things we can do within reason. For one, nav templates typically don't go out of their way to make linked text longer when it's not needed. It's pretty clear that someone went out of their way to include a very needless spoiler that doesn't aid in anything. That's pretty much trolling behavior and we can remove those kinds of things. Not only that, but nav templates usually are not considered article content. No information is being removed from articles. -- Ned Scott 03:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Stop hand.svg

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. -- Ned Scott 03:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Granted I am in danger of this myself, now that I look at it. I suggest we both back off from the template for tonight. -- Ned Scott 03:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey[edit]

You said: "By the power vested in me by the lords of Kobol I hereby revoke your "image ban" - on a serious note: you are not banned (see WP:BAN#Decision_to_ban - Yamla's "ban" doesn't meet the Banning policy)"

This sort of statement is counterproductive. By encouraging a person to continue violating Wikipedia's image copyright and fair-use policies, you are encouraging a situation where a very productive and well-meaning contributor may have to be blocked indefinitely from editing. I was not asking him to cease contributing to any specific article or to the Wikipedia at large, only to stop uploading inappropriate images. I also have offered to review any image he wishes to upload should he prefer that approach. But given that virtually every single image he uploads violates Wikipedia policies, your statements were ill-advised. --Yamla 03:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: RfC[edit]

I support the idea. The whole issue with that particular admin was ridiculous and unnecessary. Udstyle

Galactica[edit]

Please discuss the production notes first, before deleting. If you have an issue with them, that's fair, but since there is a difference of opinion it should be discussed first. I was in the process of rewriting the note to emphasize that it is an American/British funded show, but produced in Canada. (That is now in the article.) Thanks. --Ckatzchatspy 01:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out this user page[edit]

User:Steveo2. - Peregrinefisher 09:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

bgcolour[edit]

You may not have noticed, but an empty bgcolour using your version is the same as bgcolour=transparent, instead of using the default color. The only way it shows the default using your setup is if you don't include the field altogether. Therefore, your change makes it so a straight copy and paste of the sample shows no default color at all. The CSS hack shows the default and overwrites the previous one if the field is not empty. Furthermore, it was thoroughly tested in all conditions in a sandbox. --PhantomS 00:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

sg1 episode 11.[edit]

Hey, nice work adding a link to the schedule. If only it would stop people from reverting to Americian air dates.

Idjit 03:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Colonial Viper[edit]

The reason I moved it to the left is that on my screen there is a large gap between the History heading and the start of the section, as the image at the top of the section is "wedged" on the right under the ship infobox. Is that just my monitor settings, or does the image need to be moved to a more acceptable line of the page code? -- saberwyn 08:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

  • You put it right where I was going to put it... we edit conflicted :P... Thanks! -- saberwyn 08:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • That's what this place is about.. improvement through mutual co-operation :) -- saberwyn 09:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Jericho characters[edit]

Matthew: I appreciate your input with regards to the Jericho characters. However, you may not be aware of all of the details in this situation. The characters in question ("Deputy Jimmy" and "Deputy Bill") are minor characters, by any definition of the term. At this point in the series, they don't even have surnames. However, one editor, User:69.248.74.237, spends a large portion of his/her edit time trying to promote the two to "main actor" status. This includes repeatedly listing them in the main article and moving them from "minor characters" to "main characters" at List of Jericho characters. Hope this helps. --Ckatzchatspy 10:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Canadian TV shows[edit]

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia:WikiProject Canadian TV shows! I've just started this wikiproject to help fixup and organize Canadian TV shows, because they could really use it. Right now I'm focusing on getting the project up and running, but any help you can give would be appreciated. JQFTalkContribs 21:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Photon (photonic) torpedoes[edit]

Maybe i was wrong about the name, but the link is still wrong in the article Weapons of Star Trek. You might want to correct that. BTW, what's the difference between "photon" and "photonic"? Thx.Kkmic 11:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA[edit]

Its disappointing to see your RfA fail, the oppose reasons were very strong and I did not have a good reason to support you this time. I understand that you are a good user, and are dedicated to the cause of Wikipedia; you need to take some time and understand the rationale behind the opposes so that you could improve your conduct on Wikipedia. Best of luck for next time. Yours truly — Nearly Headless Nick 15:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Can I ask you a favor please?[edit]

Well, actually not a favor...well tecnically yes...I'm not sure. But here's the thing: Somebody deleted Jess Sathers's page(you know, from The O.C.?) . As you can see, as I type in Jess Sathers, its in red, which means it was deleted. I know for a fact that there was a page called Jess Sathers before. So heres the favor I'm asking...find out who did it. And also, bring that page back! Thank you! Adelyna

Why?[edit]

why did you delete dvd release on the Medium page

RfA[edit]

FTL[edit]

From the article itself: "An FTL, or "Faster Than Light", Drive is a fictional propulsion technology from the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica television series that allows space ships to achieve superluminal travel." To me, a space ship is a vehicle, and nothing that I can see in the article indicates that it's used on anything other than (non-living) vehicles, but thanks for the link to Vehicle because I had no idea what a vehicle was before. If it really gets up your nose that bad to have an article about fictional vehicles' propulsion systems in a category from fictional vehicles, far be it from me to keep putting your pet article in an appropriate category. Otto4711 22:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Being bold[edit]

After the petty edit war over references at Battlestar, I'd hoped you would have learned not to immediately revery things which are obviously disputed. In T'plana-hath you are reverting within a time frame which would make it impossible to make a discussion, thus orphaning said discussion from the article. Please stop doing this. Not everyone has the time to sit refreshing a discussion page all day until consensus is reached. It would be an act of good faith to leave templates up until such point as the disputes they reference have been resolved. Chris Cunningham 10:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

HxH article[edit]

I fixed some formatting issues and removed the wikify tag in my four ealier edits today.

You've now replaced the tag 3 times.

One more and it's 3RR. I think you know what that means.

Please stop this nonsense, It's not helping anyone. --`/aksha 13:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Actually you are wrong, a first edit is not a revert. Regardless, both of you should not be edit warring, especially over something as trivial as a tag. Page protected for now. >Radiant< 16:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Re: [18], how in the world is Radiant's action a conflict of interest? He's never edited that article as far as I can tell. And your "wocket science" comment... I'll bet you would be the first person ever to run for adminship one day and get blocked for incivility the next. —Wknight94 (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

RfA[edit]

Could you link me some diffs please? I know we disagreed on the battlestar galactica ship articles, but I can't recall ever tagging more than a handful of pages in a row. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 00:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I was on a b5 kick that night and reading pages, only to discover that they were all written in-universe so I tagged a few of them. (I read in tabs so I may have several pages open to read before I tag any of them) Every single one of those tags is still on the article and the problems that prompted it are still present, so I'm curious exactly what the issue is. The racial articles are in-universe and the EarthForce one is full of fan speculation. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 01:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Yet another edit war[edit]

It's not nice to accuse Avt Tor of edit warring when you're the other party in the same edit war. I've protected that page too. Please discuss such issues on the talk page rather than, you know, edit warring. >Radiant< 11:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

  • And I notice you were also edit warring over Battlestar Galactica. Once more, discuss it on the talk page. >Radiant< 11:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
    • You should discuss the issue at hand rather than attacking the people who disagree with you. >Radiant< 11:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

G1980[edit]

Heh, it was all right, but I don't think the writing approached the quality of the original. The flying bikes of doom were just the most obvious example of this. --BlueSquadronRaven 21:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

screen resolution[edit]

That was the best laugh I had all day :) Cyberia23 22:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I think I see where he's getting confused about screen resolution though. He thinks I'm saying that the image gets placed in the exact middle of the sentence on the screen, not off to the side like it normally gets placed. I'm saying it cut the paragraph in half, because the sentence gets interrupted, you see the picture, and then there is a break in the line and the sentence starts again. Cyberia23 22:56, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Accessibility?[edit]

Hi. Can you explain your revert on List of Stargate SG-1 episodes? What kind of accessibility issue is there with Wikipedia's inclusion tags? --CBD 20:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for comment[edit]

You're comment on my RFA is fine but for clarity were excluding reverting vandalism etc like: [19]? But there are a few others more recent e.g. [20] Thanks --BozMo talk 12:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit war[edit]

I just noticed you edit warring again (as well as having engaged in several over the weekend) despite having been warned several times to not do that. You have been blocked for twelve hours. We're not working on a deadline here, so you don't have to remove every detail you disagree with immediately. In the future please discuss issues on the talk pages, rather than edit warring. >Radiant< 14:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I will be filing a user conduct RfC once the block ends, I've had enough of your disruption towards me, I've been letting it slide past due to the fact I understand you are not to happy I am of an opposing side towards you in the naming conventions situation . You should be aware blocks are preventative and you've failed to show what you are trying to prevent any disruption, now if you are talking about List of Stargate SG-1 episodes you will notice Ned (who is your friend - and a supporter of your "side" of the arbitration leaving extraneous and rude edit summaries like "rv. Matthew, do you even know what you are talking about?" - needless to say I'm the only one to have made use of the talk page and explained the situation. Needless to say you obviously have a conflict of interest and your participation in Category:Rouge admins shows lack of judgement. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Since you've been involved in about eight edit wars in the past week, a block to prevent further edit wars appears reasonable. By the way, Ned is not my friend; I hardly even know him. That would be Unction's law. >Radiant< 14:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I endorse this block. Actually, you got off lightly. 12 hours is hardly long enough to allow other editors to fix the results of your edit warring, so if you resume, expect a longer block to allow them more time. Guy (Help!) 15:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

TeckWiz's RFA[edit]

TeckWiz's RFA
I would like to thank you for helping the Wikipedia community determine if I should become a sysop by voting oppose on my second RFA. Many opposes were because of my "different" answer to question two, which I still partly agree with. I withdrew per WP:SNOW, as consensus to promote was against me. I will continue to improve until one day, I become an admin. Happy editing! --TeckWizTalk Contribs@ 21:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

En-dashes in date ranges[edit]

Yes, for ranges of things like years and pages, one usually doesn't put spaces around en-dashes. However, when connecting mixed dates, one often does.

"En dashes that are used instead of hyphens to connect words normally do not have spaces around them. An exception is when excluding them may cause confusion or odd look (e.g., 12 June – 3 July; contrast 12 June–3 July)."

—wwoods 22:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

List of Starfleet starships ordered by class revert.[edit]

I reverted all my edits to this page. Was that okay? I stopped adding spaces as you asked. Acalamari 18:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Was I wrong to revert my edits to that page then? Acalamari 18:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I understand now. I'll stop putting spaces near citations. Can I continue my punctuation edits to List of Starfleet starships ordered by class? There were sentences with periods and some without so I wanted to make them all consistent. Acalamari 18:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks; sorry about the misunderstanding. I should have paid a bit more attention to what you wrote. Acalamari 18:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

RFB:Grandmasterka[edit]

Hi your oppose comment was obscure to the point where it made no sense to me casually reading the nom. Would you mind adding some context or a diff ti make it clearer? --Spartaz 11:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi there, the link that you just added to the RFB actually mentions a statement by Cyde. I could not find GMK anywhere on your rfa. Just thought I'd let you know. Thanks — Lost(talk) 13:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Aah ok.. Thanks for clarifying — Lost(talk) 13:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Uncivil comment[edit]

Please amend this comment immediately, before I take formal action against you. The comment is in blatant violation of WP:CIVIL. Yuser31415 00:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Starship Enterprise[edit]

I am going to restore my work on this page, please do not just remove it again. I checked my work in both Firefox, and Internet Explorer to make sure it would flow well in both despite the resolution of the users screen. It is specifically set up to put ships side-by-side if there is room (800px +) and one above the other if there is not. If you have some constructive criticism I would welcome it. But just removing my input fixes nothing.
With regards to the merger tags, whoever put them there did not give any reasons on the talk pages, and with out any arguments for merger, I felt no need to argue for the existing separate pages.
MJBurrageTALK • 15:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Merges are discussed, you are welcome to discuss them - and you may discuss your changes, pages should certainly not be formatted like that, and certainly when they don't render well for everybody, so you could say I dispute your edit, and hence you must discuss this first with the other editors on the talk page, thanking you very muchely. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Side note: When a merge is not opposed on the talk page in some time on an active page it generally indicates an endorsement. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

How can anyone discuss my edits if they cannot see them? Please at least leave them long enough for other users to see, comment, and possibly improve. That is the whole point of not just reverting someone else’s work as you have done twice now.
When you say they do not “render well” could you be more specific please. I would be happy to work on any issues given the chance. —MJBurrageTALK • 16:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The O.C.[edit]

Hi MatthewFenton,

Yes, it was my error! Thanks for taking the time to revert. I had grabbed a version done by someone who'd vandalized another article as well...

Take care,

Larry

Lmcelhiney 18:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Images.[edit]

But some of the images look better, like Claire, Jack, Locke and Sawyer. Why can't we keep them. --James W. 22:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't get what you're saying. --James W. 22:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Serenity[edit]

Hey Jeff, I've replied at Talk:Serenity (Firefly vessel)#Mothership or not? - Hope this helps. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Well-researched, cogently argued disagreements always help, whatever the outcome. Thanks for the note, and for explicitly raising the issue. (Perhaps I should have done this myself.) Now we can see what others think, too. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad's RfA[edit]

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 18:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/BozMo[edit]

If you've been following this RfA since leaving your comment[21] early in the RfA, well then disregard this comment.

Otherwise you should know that there was apparently some sort of glitch in the reporting of edit histories.

You had noted "Oppose - The last "contribution" I can find you made to the encyclopaedia (the thing we are building here) was on the 8th of January :-\" ... yet, several hours later, the edit history was showing 200+ edits between January 8 and January 15.

Some other early comments were similar, which leads me to believe there was some sort of technical problem for a few hours. --A. B. (talk) 01:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Eye of Jupiter in Starbuck's Apartment[edit]

So Matthew, do you still think the Eye of Jupiter symbol on the wall of Starbuck's apartment on Caprica is "just trivia"? KyuzoGator 14:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

js[edit]

Any progress identifyin gthis problem? Rich Farmbrough, 11:16 9 January 2007 (GMT).

If you look a little further up (village pump), you will see that changes were made for handhelds. I wonder if they could be fouling up popups. Incidentally I only reverted Deskana's change for a short while. I have commented out popups, but it seems to make no difference, according to firebug it is still erroring on that line - weird . My de: account is also affected. Hmm... even SmackBot which has a very simple js seems to be under the spell. Rich Farmbrough, 11:26 9 January 2007 (GMT).
It is the bit htat puts in the "Section 0" that casues the problem. Rich Farmbrough, 14:14 13 January 2007 (GMT).

I have been improving Shilpa's filmography section writing her fiolm career and starting the missing films - she is a major figure in global headlines at the minute so I want visitors to wikipedia o not see the red links - I did tag the racism part for cleanup but I agree it is extremely poor and quite offensive to many. It needs writing asap Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: Rapture[edit]

Thanks for clarifying the name. Ionian makes sense since it's part of the whole Greco-Roman mythos. I thought they said either Iconian or Erosian (ie. the god Eros) or something. I'm kinda POed about SciFi movie BSG to Sunday nights instead of Friday, since I now have to stay up late and get up at 5AM on Monday :( Cyberia23 21:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Thanks for your support in my RfA. I withdrew when it became clear that the uphill climb had crossed the snowball threshold, but I appreciate your support and the process gave me some good ideas for other ways I can be contributing to Wikipedia. I'll work on the areas that came up in the discussion, and try again after I've gained wider experience. -FisherQueen (Talk) 12:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

My RfB[edit]

Thanks for commenting. I asked you a few questions about what you wrote, if you'd care to take a look and respond. Thanks. --Deskana (request backup) 19:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yet another revert war[edit]

There's no policy on Wikipedia that says an editor can't replace content with more useful content, text or images. Images which are too dark to make sense of aren't useful. Using the replacement feature only makes sense if one is improving or correcting the same image, which is not the case here, hence the different file names. You don't "have to revert", and you have no authority over other editors. Unless a consensus (i.e. people other than you) objects, I'm going to continue adding images and, where missing, episode descriptions to this page. Or, if you were so inclined, you might want to put up images that weren't mostly black. I'm only adding images where the entries are either blank or not useful. Avt tor 00:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

(replied) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with other editors. There is no logic in pasting a different image over the same file name, and I for one am loath to simply delete content. If other people insist that I use old file names for new images, that's what I'll do, but until I hear suggested by someone else, I am not acting on this (IMO silly) idea. If consensus is to keep the dark blurry images instead of the brighter images, it would be a heck of a lot easier to revert to the old filenames than to have to dig into the history of each image. Avt tor 01:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
(replied) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 01:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
For the sake of discussion, I'll accept that some editors could be concerned about "mass-orphaning". I'll overwrite the existing files.
Might be more effective, certainly more collegial, to go to the talk page first, instead of starting with reverts or user page sniping. That's what most people seem to do. Ultimately the end result will be the same, but you might annoy people less. Just an observation. Avt tor 02:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
(replied) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 02:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Nice Revert[edit]

You used "(WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information)" to justify a revert. You revert my edit there, even though there are FAR more deliberate mentions of food as a use of humor and as a plot device than there are callbacks to Wizard of Oz (which is mentioned directly on the SG1 main page). Perhaps editing the show article pages should be restricted to people who actually watch the show, and know a little more than average about critical interpretation of screenwriting. Or...yeah, you're probably right. Wikipedia should be place for debate over the minutia of what country appears on the main page for a production credit. Obviously placed easter-eggs that pop up frequently throughout the series and might give true fans cause to chuckle are clearly meant for an "indiscriminate collection of information" and should be reverted forthwith. Thanks for letting me know early what's really important to seasoned Wikipedia editors such as yourself. I'll leave you to quibble over image quality now, in peace. Tarkaan 03:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Stargate SG-1[edit]

Episode Style Sheet Following the plot summary, several (optional) sections may follow. These include:

   * "Quotes" section
   * "Trivia" section
         o Significance, discussing the episode's overall contribution to the Stargate mythology (character developments, shifts of power)
         o Trivia, adding some interesting facts about the episode that would not be appropriate for the introduction or summary
         o Controversy, if the episode is particularly divisive among fans or introduces an element that has met with a harsh fan reaction or that violates continuity (this could apply to Sam's boyfriend Pete Shanahan, for example).
         o This would also be a good place to mention if fans generally loved or hated the episode (use GEOS or Gateworld for this, don't decide yourself!) and why.

This policy applies to other tv shows as well, so please stop deleting trivia or note sections. And if you personally believe information to be trivial, unverifiable, or indiscriminate information then say so and ask the information be removed or integrated into the article if possible. Mwhope 03:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


Torchwood[edit]

Hi -

The reason why I think it's inappropriate to identify the source of the severed hand in the Random Shoes article (and other articles about Torchwood episodes) is that it's not just a spoiler for that episode, but for the whole series. Once I saw the Random Shoes episode, I thought I could safely read the WP article without worrying about spoilers -- I didn't expect to get spoiled for something they're keeping coy about for the whole season. :-)

I think it's reasonable to expect the spoiler warning for a film or a single episode of TV to cover anything that's revealed in that presentation. I think it's reasonable to identify where the hand comes from in the Doctor Who article or the Torchwood article. I don't think it's nice to identify it in summaries for individual episodes. Thoughts?

thanks-- Tim Pierce 16:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


Sliders[edit]

the re-airing of the show over the summer and upon the network switch is informtion pertinent to the show, to the episode, is sourced, and cannot be conveyed in the plot summary. The information is also not present on the Sliders page. Perhaps it should be moved there if it does not belong on the episode page. But it SHOULD belong on wikipedia.

As for the cat, fine, whatever. Clearly Quinn, a physics genius who invents sliding between parallel dimensions, has a cat named schrodinger who he refers to in mulitple episodes. The cat is obviously named after the nobel prize winning physicist of the same name. The conection is so blatant that to my knowledge no one ever bothered to ask or publish that this was the case. if you personally dislike trivia sections, please try discussing the removal of information before simply deleting it as you love to say the responsibility for providing verifible sources lies with the contributer, so please honor and respect the competent contributers who have helped create and still better the project.

First, simply because a piece of information relates only to one country is not a reason to remove it, else I suggest you take a long major edit to overhaul the American history page, and sequentially every page on wikipedia. Second, the information on re-airing is of historical significance and is present, and listed for the same reasons as the original airing. Notice not every airing of the spisode is listed, only the original, the re-airing during the summer after season 1 and the reairing when the show switched networks. In both cases the intent was to drum up ratings and interest. if you can present a valid arguement, let me hear it, I have given sound reasoning and presented an argument, please do the same and stop censoring information. And yes indiscriminate information collecting is not the purpose of wikipedia, however encyclopedic information does seem to fall under its umbrella Mwhope 21:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Aaron Sorkin article[edit]

MatthewFenton, I would like to ask for your help in bettering the Aaron Sorkin article. I've noticed your helpful edits over at the Studio 60 article and I think you could help me out. I have made extensive edits to the Sorkin article, and have tried to make it both interesting and factual. I would appreciate if you could as a peer, review the article and perhaps even help with the lead section. I'm hoping to set the Sorkin biography on a track leading to Featured Article status eventually. It would be a first, because as far as I can tell there isn't a Screenwriter yet who's been featured. Anyways, any help would be greatly appreciated. -BiancaOfHell 00:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Glorious Heritage[edit]

Mr Fenton,

Did you create the page 'Glorious Heritage' with reference to the High Guard ships... If so, I have tried to follow your layout in the 'General Charateristics' box. However the information i am trying to put in wont allow it, ie. new headings as i seem to have more information than you previously had. I know it has something to do with, on the 'edit this page' and specifically 'infobox fictional spaceship'. My question is... how is it possible to put new headings in there?

G.J

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MatthewFenton" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bluemaffia (talkcontribs) 00:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC).


Righteous Fist of Heaven Class Class
NonFreeImageRemoved.svg
A Righteous Fist of Heaven Class Destroyer
First appearance Star Crossed
General characteristics
Defenses High tension armor
Battle blades
Propulsion Slipstream
Power Fusion reactors

Select edit... all the information is there.


RE. What i have noticed is that the information on the DSX page is wrong

RE.. Is there any ways of adding additional values as i have more information on sections not listed?

RE... Added values of: physical Characteristics, Manpower, Sensors, Combat Systems.

I also don't want to impune your work on creating the pages but just as an example... the DSA 1 had only 60 ELS Tubes, the DSA 2 had the 180

You do have mistakes on your page for the DSA's and i didn't want to change your work... the 'Wrath of Achilles was not a DSA 2, only the Resolution of Hector was.

Episode images[edit]

Hey Matthew, I consider you an ally in support of using images in the episode lists. There seems to be a lot of conflict between myself and Ed g2s over the List of Seinfeld episodes page and I would like to ask if you can mediate or provide an opinion on the discussion page. Any help would be appreciated Sfufan2005 19:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

upcoming TV[edit]

It seems we are working on similar templates. Giving you a heads up in hopes we don't do work double too much. TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 20:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thanks for the update to my vacation message.  :) --Yamla 21:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Random[edit]

I was about to go 'cos I am borrowing someone else's computer. :) Ladida 00:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Really? I wish I could have seen it. :( But I am having a great holiday. I'll take a look at the Gilmore Girls thing a little later. Thanks. Ladida 00:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

New 'Verse diagram[edit]

I made a new 'Verse diagram for List of Firefly planets and moons, if you wanna check it out. Cyberia23 08:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, BTW, here is a link to some more of my work: my dA page if you want to see my other stuff :) You can also see what I look like :P Cyberia23 10:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Seinfeld[edit]

Ed, I must urge you to discuss the page on the talk instead of revert warring, all images pass the FUC, also remember to provide reversion reasons rather then reverting a persons good faith edits with the [rollback] button, thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I have left extensive comments on the talk page - you, on the other hand, reverted without comment. Good faith has nothing to do with this. ed g2stalk 15:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

"This might be a good source for you, sorry for reverting you :-) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be a pain in the ass but I had to revert your air date change to the BSG LOE as well, (I'll explain why on talk page) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)"
Matthew Fenton, I do not mind at all :) .. And no, you were not a pain at all :) . I accept and agree with your positions, so no problem :) . Have a nice day.. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 17:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Space Warfare in fiction[edit]

Hey Matt,

Thanks for the input on Space warfare in fiction. Sadly, it was deleted. However, I did userfy it beforehand and I currently have a copy that I am improving so that it could become an article again. I would be most appreciative if you helped with the article, especially with sources and referances. It can be found here.

Thanks in advance,

S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 04:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

In fairness to pd_THOR...[edit]

...this may be a bit harsh. It is through processes like these that each of use learns. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

ROFL! RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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A tired hey[edit]

Hey Matthew, I noticed on your oppose vote for User:Mecu you said "lack of activity (stopped 25th, back 28th)". It's just a really, really minor point but sometimes two days off can occur for any reason and I don't think it's fair to add it to your oppose. I'm certain your other points are fair, but sometimes people need some time off. I'm just going through a difficult patch with my family, illness and stuff, and getting back to WP is something I kind of look forward to, and to see that my lack of activity for three days would count against me seems somewhat harsh. I'm not trying to start anything difficult here (I don't have the energy, for one thing!) but I just felt that of all your oppose opinions this one (probably because I felt it) seemed a bit too much. Anyway, it's late for me, I wish you nothing but the best, but I wanted to say something to you, I hope you understand where I'm coming from. The Rambling Man 23:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

heroes[edit]

look at every single wikipedia article dealing with a television episode, including those of Heroes. They all have pictures in the infobox. Unless you can find a better picture, i see no reason why it shouldn't stay. dposse 13:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Please, try to be civil. There is no reason to get angry. Now, why is there an issue with the fair use of those two pictures and not the others? By the way, i've created a discussion topic on Talk:Fallout_(Heroes)#images. Discuss it there, with the rest of Wikiproject:Heroes and other wikipedians. If you continue to revert it without discussing it to a WP:Consensus, i will have the two articles fully protected until we reach one. Thanks. dposse 13:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
One last time, if you do not start being civil, i will report you for personal attacks. Take a deep breath, ok? dposse 15:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
To be fair to Matthew, I have not actually seen him make any personal attacks in this exchange. Much of what he is saying makes sense. The JPStalk to me 15:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure about that? Look again. dposse 15:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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A tired hey[edit]

Hey Matthew, I noticed on your oppose vote for User:Mecu you said "lack of activity (stopped 25th, back 28th)". It's just a really, really minor point but sometimes two days off can occur for any reason and I don't think it's fair to add it to your oppose. I'm certain your other points are fair, but sometimes people need some time off. I'm just going through a difficult patch with my family, illness and stuff, and getting back to WP is something I kind of look forward to, and to see that my lack of activity for three days would count against me seems somewhat harsh. I'm not trying to start anything difficult here (I don't have the energy, for one thing!) but I just felt that of all your oppose opinions this one (probably because I felt it) seemed a bit too much. Anyway, it's late for me, I wish you nothing but the best, but I wanted to say something to you, I hope you understand where I'm coming from. The Rambling Man 23:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

heroes[edit]

look at every single wikipedia article dealing with a television episode, including those of Heroes. They all have pictures in the infobox. Unless you can find a better picture, i see no reason why it shouldn't stay. dposse 13:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Please, try to be civil. There is no reason to get angry. Now, why is there an issue with the fair use of those two pictures and not the others? By the way, i've created a discussion topic on Talk:Fallout_(Heroes)#images. Discuss it there, with the rest of Wikiproject:Heroes and other wikipedians. If you continue to revert it without discussing it to a WP:Consensus, i will have the two articles fully protected until we reach one. Thanks. dposse 13:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
One last time, if you do not start being civil, i will report you for personal attacks. Take a deep breath, ok? dposse 15:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
To be fair to Matthew, I have not actually seen him make any personal attacks in this exchange. Much of what he is saying makes sense. The JPStalk to me 15:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure about that? Look again. dposse 15:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't think repeatedly calling an editor "ignorant" is particularly civil. --Milo H Minderbinder 16:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused. How is changing where the picture is placed going to save it? I'm all for saving the pictures, but i doubt that placing it lower in the article is somehow going to make any Admin or user not want to delete it. dposse 15:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


It still doesn't answer my question of why only those two? Those two pictures were gained the same way as in the Genesis article and all the others, right? And god damnit, i did not want to have this discussion here between only us, but whatever. By the way, one of the thing on the "to do" list of the heroes wikiproject is to provide fair use for all the images for the Heroes article. Would putting that at number one on our to do list help to get what we both want? 'cause i love compromises, don't you? dposse 16:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
What do you think of the second part to my last comment? dposse 19:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Jeri Ryan[edit]

This - [Image:JeriRyanPublicityShot.jpg] is a publicity shot of Ryan circulated by her agent - this can be consider fair use as per Wikipedia:Publicity_photos. Do you agree?Mikejstevenson 14:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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SJA link removal[edit]

Looks good — thanks for taking care of that. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 03:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

3rr on Ed[edit]

Looks like I beat you to it. --Milo H Minderbinder 16:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I guess the admins can take their pick. --Milo H Minderbinder 17:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Fine with me. --Milo H Minderbinder 17:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:RfAr[edit]

You have been listed as one of the involved parties in a case against Philwelch. Please follow the link above. Best regards, — Nearly Headless Nick 14:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Commonwealth English?[edit]

You've asked me a fairly complex question.

  • My first reaction is that this is something that belongs to consensus on a relevant discussion page (possibly the WikiProject page), not a one-on-one discussion.
  • My second reaction is that "Commonwealth English" is slightly misleading. I think certain pages might appropriately be written in Canadian English, which is not exactly the same as the British varieties.
  • My third reaction is that I am rather strongly guided by the general principle that a page should usually remain in the national variety it was originally written in.
  • I'm not a giant BSG fan, so I'd draw on other analogies. For Smallville and Stargate, pages related to production might be appropriate in Canadian English; certainly if someone separated all the Smallville location stuff onto a separate page, it should be in Canadian English. For individual actors it depends. For someone well established in Canadian television like Donnelly Rhodes (The Beachcombers, Danger Bay, DaVinci's Inquest), Canadian spelling would be appropriate. For someone who is only known for their BSG role, like Tricia Helfer, I'd have a much weaker preference.
  • Battlestar Galactica is produced for an American company, which leans towards American spelling for anything customer/viewer-focused, e.g. the main page, discussion about content (plot/setting) and distribution.
  • There's also a lot of grey area here. To me, Stargate Atlantis feels almost completely Canadian; Stargate feels very Canadian
  • Every Canadian non-fiction writer is taught to write for their market. I have many Canadian writer friends who use American spelling almost exclusively in their professional work (and yet still use Canadian spelling in their web bios). A Canadian would normally use American spelling for an international publication.
  • I am kind of the worst person to ask for an opinion on this subject. Having been born and raised in the US but spent most of my adult life in Canada, I am always going to be the guy who wants to flip the coin and have it land on its side. Canadians are aggressively tolerant about linguistic variations.

Sorry if I'm unable to give a definitive opinion on this. Avt tor 02:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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Vidiian Sodailty image[edit]

With regard to Image:Vidiian 2.png I don't know which episode it appears in. It is a fan made version of the logo which does appear in the series. The logo is shown in the Star Trek Encyclopedia.--NeilEvans 15:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Vidiian image[edit]

Wouldn't using a fan created image get around the copyright issue?--NeilEvans 15:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

"Humorous" as NPOV[edit]

The word is being used in contrast to "serious": the book was a satirical work rather than a documentary. Have you actually read the book? I can thoroughly recommend it, it is very funny: it is a "humorous" book hence the description. Please do not enter into pointless edit wars over simple adjectives. In the alternative, would "satirical" make you happier? HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 18:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Unreferenced[edit]

According to guidelnes to be found at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes:

Content about television episodes must conform to Wikipedia content policies, including but not limited to Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research.

Please do not remove appropriate tags. Shaundakulbara 18:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Number Three[edit]

Hey, that's a good image for Three, but do you think you could crop the empty space on the left? --DrBat 23:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realize it was being used in other articles. :o --DrBat 23:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Philwelch[edit]

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Daedalus Class Trivia Section[edit]

Take it to the discussion page before you start blanking information without a valid (ie: Policy violating) reason. Reverted edits on page only remove irrelevent information, other user repeated information about Asgard shields already on the page, but with poorer gramatical accuracy. - 59.167.10.58 15:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Daedalus class edit[edit]

I just think it's pointless to put a citation on something that's not even mentioned in the episode page, it was something shown in the episode, not spoken but I've added them, happy now? Anyway, it was NEVER called a BC-304, only a 304 and I've corrected that.

Faris b 17:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, sorry. I was having a rough morning. I always thought citations needed to be referenced in the episode page, if that's not the case then I guess it's not pointless.

Faris b 17:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


Dude, seriously[edit]

Look at how the other episodes pages are built before you go on your one man crusade. There's always a notes section and a trivia section. Deleting stuff for no reason just because you don't like the way they look is hardly constructive. Get with the programme will ya. Saebhiar 11:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, look more closely and you'll see there's a note section everytime something relevant to the story arc happens in one episode. But that's hardly the point, editing doesn't mean deleting stuff (especially if they are relevant) without so much as a by your leave. You could have at least shown the common courtesy of dropping me a line before you went on your "editing" rampage. Good thing I was watching the page. Saebhiar 11:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Sysop?[edit]

Yes, I would definitely be interested in having another shot at it. It has been five months since the last nomination, after all. Everyking 12:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I actually have far more than 45,000 edits; I think it's over 100,000 now. I think some counters have an upper limit and then cut off. Anyway, I'm going to wait probably until tonight or tomorrow to accept the nom and get this started, because I need to go to sleep soon and then I have work. Everyking 13:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I didn't have much luck finding the actual total, but according to Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits it was 86195 edits as of November 2006. So at least mention that in the nom, so I don't get sold short. Otherwise, it's a good statement and I appreciate it. Everyking 13:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

My last RfA/me[edit]

Hi Matt! You opposed my last RfA in late November 2006. There were opposes citing civility and inexperience with policy. It's about 3 months after that, and I think I've gained more experiance in policy and more emotional stability on-wiki. Recently I've been doing a bit of Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam stuff, though this last week I haven't had a great deal of time. Anyway, I was considering an RfA in a month or two, and I wanted to ask a few people if they had any recommendations as to what I should to or criticisms over the last few months. Thanks for reading! ST47Talk 01:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Everyking 2[edit]

Just a heads up, I dont believe you've signed your nom :) Glen 06:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Star Trek Barnstar.[edit]

Star Trek Barnstar.png The Star Trek Barnstar
Here's to all your hard work on the Star Trek articles. Acalamari 19:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I decided to award you this Barnstar because I've seen all the work you've done on the Star Trek articles, including fix a few mistakes that I made. This is the first Barnstar I've ever awarded anyone. Acalamari 19:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, you've done tons of edits to those articles so I thought that it was appropriate to award you this. Acalamari 19:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Congrats! I didn't even know there was a Trek barnstar. Cyberia23 19:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I assume you want to keep the Enterprise-E's top speed as Warp 8? I've seen all the Star Trek movies, and I don't remember E going any faster than Warp 8, and if Warp 8 is the highest seen speed of E, then Warp 8 should remain the highest speed until E or another Sovereign-class vessel goes at Warp 9.985. Acalamari 19:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I did as you asked. Acalamari 20:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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No longer orphaned.--Orange Mike 17:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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Philwelch[edit]

Do you want me to leave Wikipedia? Philwelch 23:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Why?[edit]

Um, you never gave me a reason why you reverted my edit at List of The 4400 episodes, what is un-useful about this edit I made now? Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 17:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

ok, thanks for your reply Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 17:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Current television series template[edit]

I notice that you pulled the current television series template from the two articles I had added it to (Heroes (TV series) and The Dresden Files (TV series)), noting it as "inappropriate." In what way is the current television series template inappropriate to an article about a current television series, which contains content related to that series and subject to change as new episodes are released? It seems to be particularly appropriate, on the face of it. There are no guidelines on the template page itself to describe appropriateness or applicability. Perhaps you could point me to some sort of guideline page? Thanks. —Stormraven 17:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:TPol2003.jpg[edit]

Thank you for speedily keeping Image:TPol2003.jpg. You and I may not often agree on images but this was clearly the right decision here. And while we may often disagree, I do appreciate the work you do around here. --Yamla 20:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Warning[edit]

Warning

You have four times reverted the image I added to Joachim (Star Trek). Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Shaundakulbara 00:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Hollyoaks: In the City[edit]

I'm afraid I don't agree with your reversion here.[22] Whilst of course the plot summary is written in the present tense as it relates to fictional events - as I had left it - the opening paragraph clearly should be in the past as it is a factual description of the show. As the show has been cancelled, it is therefore correct to say that "Hollyoaks: In the City was a a British soap opera...". As far as I can find, every other cancelled/ended show's article has its opening paragraph in the past tense (eg: Dad's Army, Father Ted, Married… with Children, even the non fiction Grandstand (BBC)). Also, I'd appreciate it if you'd restore the lost cleanup work you also reverted at the same time. Cheers, DWaterson 00:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. It is perfectly obvious that in natural English speech one refers to an event which has now ceased as being in the past tense, even when it can be repeated again. Also, as I asked above, I'd appreciate it if you'd restore the lost cleanup work you also reverted at the same time; as you will know from Help:Reverting, "You are responsible for re-doing all the subsequent edits which you un-did," and "If what one is attempting is a positive contribution to Wikipedia, a revert of those contributions is inappropriate unless, and only unless, you as an editor possess firm, substantive, and objective proof to the contrary." Off-hand, I can find no other evidence in other articles to support your assertion that ceased TV shows should remain in the present. Cheers, DWaterson 00:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I agree that most fictional works should be in the present tense - we still say that Hamlet is a work of Shakespeare and the Mona Lisa is a painting by da Vinci - but in the case of dead broadcast shows I just don't think it makes grammatical sense. I also note that WikiProject TV have as their model of good style, "...M*A*S*H (Mobile Army Surgical Hospital) was an American television series..." Clearly this is something that the MoS needs to clarify. Anyway, I will go ahead and re-revert as you don't have time to fix it up. I didn't cite the theme tune as, per WP:CITE, I didn't expect it to be "material that is challenged or likely to be challenged"; the source for that is of course the programme's credits, which are rather difficult to cite anyway as they aren't exactly third-party. Ta, DWaterson 01:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

trivia[edit]

Lists of trivia can be useful for developing a new article Sections which contain facts to be merged into the main body of the article are a list of "facts pending integration" or "facts lacking sufficient context for integration". Seek to minimize it, but meanwhile leave it in place as a raw store of facts for both readers and editors to work with. Mwhope 01:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

if you cannot integrate, perhaps someone else (someone familiar with the subject perhaps) may be able Mwhope 01:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Of course I have AIM/MSN/YIM. However, for privacy reasons, I choose not to list them here on Wikipedia nor do I plan to have my Wikipedia life mix with my messenger one. I have been considering getting a new screen name for each that is for Wikipedia only. If you wish to contact me in real time, I am afraid that my talk page will have to do for now. S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 01:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I shall alert you (assuming I don't forget) if and when I get a Wiki-oriented screen name for the aforementioned messenger services. S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 01:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I know[edit]

Fenton, I know it's not a competition, I had just decided to add those in there, okay? Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 13:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Comments on image[edit]

Hi, Matthew. I really didn't understand what you intended to say in your edit summaries here and here. Could you clarify that? Thanks. --Abu badali (talk) 14:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The source is (quite obviously, I may add) Paramount pictures, the copyright holder, clarification was also added for you. I vehemently urge you not to revert war. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I understand your concerns now. I agree there's no doubt the image's copyrights belong Paramount pictures. What I meant when I asked for " verifiable source information to backup the "promotional" tag" was some verifiable information to back up the claim that this image has been "released by a company or organization to promote their work or product in the media". As I told on the image talk page, it's a common mistake to believe that images found on the internet (even on official sites) are always being released for media usage.
Do you have such source information? Can you please update the image description page to include this? Thanks! --Abu badali (talk) 14:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Comments on image[edit]

Hi, Matthew. I really didn't understand what you intended to say in your edit summaries here and here. Could you clarify that? Thanks. --Abu badali (talk) 14:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The source is (quite obviously, I may add) Paramount pictures, the copyright holder, clarification was also added for you. I vehemently urge you not to revert war. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I understand your concerns now. I agree there's no doubt the image's copyrights belong Paramount pictures. What I meant when I asked for " verifiable source information to backup the "promotional" tag" was some verifiable information to back up the claim that this image has been "released by a company or organization to promote their work or product in the media". As I told on the image talk page, it's a common mistake to believe that images found on the internet (even on official sites) are always being released for media usage.
Do you have such source information? Can you please update the image description page to include this? Thanks! --Abu badali (talk) 14:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Didn't realise you'd replied, sorry, I've personally seen the image on StarTrek.com, I'll give skidoo a bit of time to add his source before I go hunting down the location. If push comes to shove I/someone could just get a TV cap of her in her 3rd season look from an episode and {{tv-screenshot}} it, HTH HAND. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 15:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, screenshots are usually a safer bet when it's necessary to show a movie/tv character. And I believe Wikipedia already have some screenshots showing this same character, maybe some of them should be used. If I readd the {{no source}} tag now, would you consider it edit-warring? --Abu badali (talk) 15:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Personally I only ever upload captures I take my self, it certainly is safer, so you are correct and thus I will self revert :-) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 15:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Great! Discussing is always better (and easier!) than warring :P !

But screen shots are usually inferior images and I've also seen them challenged on the grounds that they should only be used to illustrate the episode or specific scene in question. The image originated from startrek.com but the original page is long gone, so is there really a point in providing a URL? The image is widely disseminated on the Net. Personally I've actually given up providing images to Wikipedia because the people around here can't seem to make up their damn minds. Better to ban all images and just go text only, IMO. Would save a heck of a lot of bandwidth costs for the foundation and would eliminate the hard feelings all this fair use stuff has been causing (I know many wikipedians who have quit the project in disgust several times over this issue, including myself though I was persuaded to return). Please reply to my talk page if you do (I don't like watchlisting people's personal talk pages). 23skidoo 17:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it's sufficient to say startrek.com and indicate that it was downloaded 3 1/2 years ago which might as well be 35 years ago for the Internet. If nothing else that keeps the draconian ticking clock from deleting the image until a more direct link is found later. I don't have time to go hunting through archives right now; I've wasted enough time on Wikipedia today as it is. Cheers. 23skidoo 17:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, if it's really from startrek.com, it turns out to be what I was affraid of: An image mistakenly believed to be "released for media usage" simply because it was found on the internet. Images from startrek.com are part of the site contents, and are not for distribution or reuse in other sites. Theirs terms of use clearly say in allcaps: "UNAUTHORIZED USE, COPYING, REPRODUCTION, MODIFICATION, REPUBLISHING, UPLOADING, DOWNLOADING, POSTING, TRANSMITTING, DISTRIBUTING OR DUPLICATING OR ANY OTHER MISUSE OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL IS PROHIBITED".
I also believe it wouldn't help to rettagg the image as {{Non-free fair use in}} as our use of this image in a webpage about startrek does conflict with startrek.com's original intended use. --Abu badali (talk) 18:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
But it's been used in newspapers! Magazines! Never mind. To hell with it. Delete it and all other images on Wikipedia. I'm done with it. I've deleted both images and beginning this weekend I will be deleting all images I have ever uploaded to Wikipedia. it'll take awhile. 23skidoo 19:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
23skidoo, you don't seem mature enough for the position of an admin. This is not the first time you overreact to criticism over your upoloads. As I said before, this is a common mistake, and you shouldn't feel so terrible for that. That was a good faith mistake from your part, and as long as you don't run into it again, there's nothing to cry about. --Abu badali (talk) 19:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
You need to follow the history here. Every few weeks the rules are being changed and it is becoming not only frustrating and difficult to contribute to this project anymore. Images that were perfectly fine two years ago - six months ago - are now being removed with little effort being made to find replacements. There was a guy on a Fair Use discussion thread who basically said that people putting up articles on individuals should spend hours of effort to contact that person and get a photograph. I'm sorry, there is not enough time for that sort of thing and I personally refuse to do it without being paid. The efforts of trying to make this encyclopedia a useful place are being sabotaged by people who are so paranoid about the remote possibility of someone causing an issue -- and everyone I asked has refused to provide me with any proof Wikipedia has ever been sued over the use of an image -- that, to be blunt, it's just not worth the effort anymore. And the fact is, on the bottom line, no image I have ever uploaded is likely to meet the criteria that now stands, whether it's a book cover scan or a screen capture. So I might as well save people the effort of deleting them. Your comment about me being "immature" is uncalled for because you do not know all the facts as I see them. (Apologies and thanks to Matthew for using his talk page for my comments). 23skidoo 19:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Maybe you're being "paranoid" in wanting every article to have an image... immediately. If you're not willing to take the effort to take a picture (this is for bios, not this character's image case), why not just write a great article and await for someone willing to take the picture to take the picture? By the way, I follow the "history" quite close. The rules are not being changed, the are being enforced after long being ignored.
Sorry and thanks also, Matthew!
Best wishes to you all, --Abu badali (talk) 20:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Current television series template[edit]

I notice that you pulled the current television series template from the two articles I had added it to (Heroes (TV series) and The Dresden Files (TV series)), noting it as "inappropriate." In what way is the current television series template inappropriate to an article about a current television series, which contains content related to that series and subject to change as new episodes are released? It seems to be particularly appropriate, on the face of it. There are no guidelines on the template page itself to describe appropriateness or applicability. Perhaps you could point me to some sort of guideline page? Thanks. —Stormraven 17:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Resurrecting this query. Still waiting for an answer. —Stormraven 20:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. That's interesting. Clearly Template:Future television would be inappropriate to the articles I had modified. It's multi-purpose, but specifically for highlighting predictive information. Template:Current television merely highlights the fact that the current information is likely to be further developed by future episodes, even though the current information may not be at all predictive. Still, I have noticed that there aren't any articles that use Current television, so I'm not going to press the issue. Perhaps there ought to be guidelines on the Current television template page to explain when it should and should not be used. —Stormraven 21:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Tomb of Athena image[edit]

NonFreeImageRemoved.svg

Hey I brightened up the Tomb image for you. It was really dark and hard to make out details. Cyberia23 21:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the dark can't really be helped I guess, problem is everything in BSG is lit with 10 watt bulbs since they gotta keep it all "dark" and "esoteric". Cyberia23 21:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Future TV information[edit]

Now that the new future television template is in use, can you db-author your Template:Future TV information, to avoid confusion ? TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 21:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Good, and yes, i'm a developer of that piece of software. TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 21:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Torchwood[edit]

I see you removed my minor edit about the reference to Torchwood Four echoing Babylon 4, and I do not understand the reason. It is fact that Torchwood Four is mentioned in this way, and it is fact that Babylon 4 is also mentioned in this way during Babylon 5. It was in a trivia section, and is even mentioned during the episode in question. Dozens, probably hundreds of articles have trivia sections, can you explain in more detail why you object to its inclusion? Thanks. Psicorps 10:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Trivia is to be avoided, if included it is to be cited, see WP:OR. Other articles having abundances of trivia is just an argumentum ad ignorantiam. You are welcome to discuss on the talk page however, but POV comparisons with no citations ain't encyclopaedic. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 10:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I repeat my original point - hundreds of other articles have trivia, even the article I added it to had a trivia section. It is not original research since it is stated in the applicable episodes of Torchwood and Babylon 5. It speaks for itself. The line that that Jack stated that Torchwood Four disappeared is on the original article I feel makes my reference worthy of inclusion. I'm sorry if you don't agree but I don't agree with your cited reasons. It's not a big deal, I'm happy for it to stay off if that's the general consensus. Psicorps 10:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

It souns like OR to me as well. --Chris Griswold () 10:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Edit waring please[edit]

Changing it back is hardly edit warring, the spoiler is above the spoiler warning ,below a massive picture that draws your eye right to it , i don't think adding attempting to save is a major issue (Gnevin 23:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC))

'Attemping to saving is confusing will you get real! (Gnevin 23:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC))

I hAVE A QUESTION[edit]

HI....HOW DO U PUT A BOX WHERE THE DESCRIPTION IS AT AND SOURCE AND ALL THAT BECAUSE I DONT NOE HOW AND I JUST UPLOADED SOME PICTURES....AND I NOE U NOE HOW 2 DO THAT BECAUSE I SEEN THE PICS U PUT UP....THANX..... Adelyna 00:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing Jericho. I had forgotten to log in when I put those new episodes in but it was totally my bad for not doing the linky thing.

Thanks again. --BenWoodruff 16:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a place for me to put spoilers? I could email what I know or if you want go to http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12026&start=504 and read what I put there. --BenWoodruff 21:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

How is adding a 4400-related link spam?

I was not trying to "spam" nor is the site MINE, I'm just a member there. And I didn't think it would be a problem as I've seen other message boards links on various show pages, as well as fansites. Sorry.

Your input here would be invaluable. --badlydrawnjeff talk 17:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Exodus[edit]

Are you talking about the green screen "goof"? I don't think it's particularly notable, and I'm sure if you don't delete it someone else probably will. I and some others added "goofs" to the Star Trek articles and a few people deleted them (their reasoning was there was no source to the statement), I argued "watch the episode and you'll see it", but that wasn't good enough I guess and they were deleted as useless trivia. Actually having a screenshot helps credibility I guess, but anyway, goofs should probably be avoided in article episodes. Your call though. Cyberia23 21:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I know what you mean. Technically, you could bring a case against him for violating the 3RR rule - after three reverts of the same thing arbitration is needed. But that takes time and politics and attracts those who'd rather see all episode synopses deleted entirely. What I like to do with a problem reverter who is adamant about trivial crap is wait a day or two and delete them again when their not looking. I found usually people who obsesses about stupid things, have with low brain capacity, and they get attracted by some other little shiny object and seem to "go away" on their own. LOL! Revert em in 24 or 48 hours and about 80% of the time they give up. I could revert em later and see what happens, usually when a third-party intervenes they go away too. Cyberia23 22:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I never really edited the Stargate pages. I just added info on equipment and that was quite a while ago. I like the show, I just never really followed it closely and I've missed lots of episodes. Cyberia23 22:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh your getting the last season 10 episodes already? Ours starts in April. Cyberia23 00:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

okay, i am trying to learn. So, out of curiosity i looked at the amanda tapping page and there is an external link to imdb. If imdb is not considered a reliable source, than why point people to it? The only reason that link is there is so a viewer can see her filmography.

Re:Images[edit]

I'll look around and see if I have any images of the 4400 cast. Imageboy1 06:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Warn[edit]

Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.--CyberGhostface 21:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Man you just keep making friends around here :) Cyberia23 01:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The above warning is seconded. Thank you. Kyaa the Catlord 04:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Remastered Trek[edit]

Hey Mat, are they showing the remastered Original Series over in England yet? If so what do you think of it? Cyberia23 01:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

They've been done very well, but my only beef is that unlike the remade effects for the last three Star Wars movies where they tried to integrate old and new footage together as much as possible, they keep the new effects pretty much limited to space. Only rarely do they overlap a new scene with and old. I guess it was a matter of budget. I would have like to see at least moving skies and stuff instead of a colored studio wall when they visit planets. The scene establishing shots have been remade in most episodes and they refines the phaser streams and display graphics here and there, but thats pretty much it. Rubber monsters still look like rubber monsters, like in "Arena" the Gorn was unchanged - they did make his eyes blink a bit which I thought was funny. I provided links to some of the updated episodes, check out "Balance of Terror", "The Doomsday Machine" in particular, that was awesome. "Wink of an Eye" was cool too with the new city backdrop. Cyberia23 21:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Not sure of the ratio - I don't have an HD set yet, way too expensive for me - I'm poor :( Cyberia23 23:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Escape plan (Prison Break)[edit]

Hey Matthew, do you think Escape plan (Prison Break) meets the criteria for deletion? Its style is in-universe and the subject matter itself is kind of unencyclopaedic. What do you think? Regards, Ladida 02:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, Matthew. I considered rewriting it but I am quite busy at the moment. It is a good summary of the escape plan but there isn't anything factual about it. Regards, Ladida 05:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Okey dokey then. Talk to you later. Ladida 05:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Your note re Heroes[edit]

Matthew - your note on my talk page was completely unwarranted. You are well aware that my restoration of the text you deleted did not contravene WP:AVTRIVIA, as it was exactly the sort of relevant information that "Trivia" sections are intended for. The material, which I might note was originally added to the article by a different editor, and restored by yet another following your deletion, most certainly did not contravene WP:NOR either. Please use more consideration in the future before leaving such notes. Thank you. --Ckatzchatspy 04:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Hollyoaks: in the City (again)[edit]

Matthew, I'm not sure why you're treating this quite so pedantically. Whether or not it should be in the present tense - and "it has always been" is not a valid justification, or no articles would ever get changed - I'm totally perplexed why you're disputing the title song. 1) The information is materially correct; 2) a source has been provided, which, whether particularly good or not, is in fact correct; 3) you have suggested no other alternative or provided any information to assert anything to the contrary. So I can see no problem here. DWaterson 17:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Use of "and/or"[edit]

Don't feel like I'm singling you out: I remove this construct wherever I see it. It's never needed and only muddles up what otherwise is perfectly clear meaning. The word "or" implicitly includes the condition of "and", and people understand this without the need for additional cues. So all of the cases you pointed out are covered by this simple and elegant word. +ILike2BeAnonymous 18:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Veronica Mars[edit]

"Please note that we do not censor spoilers from Wikipedia because a user takes a dislike to them."

The season summaries can be read without any major spoilers. The two words I removed were unnecessary, and adding a spoiler warning to (virtually) the entire article is lazy. In the future, please keep your cliquish comments to yourself. Mratzloff 22:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Veronica Mars trivia[edit]

Well, I agree that the fact that they used the right LC call number may not be the most relevant trivia there is about Veronica Mars (although the terms relevance and trivia seem a bit contradictory). I just thought it was interesting that the writers made the effort to look up the number (and to then choose another edition). And, of course, last week's episode entry includes nailbiters such as this: "The video game that Logan and Heather play is Mario Kart: Double Dash." But if someone else, namely you, thinks, the number thing is not as interesting as I assumed, I accept that. Greetings, Blur4760 14:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, from the top of my head, I can remember that in the episode "One Angry Veronica", Veronica makes a comment how she was surprised Keith could fit a pony in her bedroom for Christmas, and there is one episode, where she doesn't want Keith to know what she's doing on her computer, so she shows him just a screensaver of unicorns, implying that that was what she was embarassed to show (I can look up the episode when I get the time), further saying that girls are crazy about unicorns. So I also noted the number of pony and unicorn-references in the show. Yet their relevance is very disputable as well. Blur4760 14:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

My mistake. I thought you just deleted this sentence: "This is at least the sixth time writers have referenced a ponies or unicorns on the show." But you deleted the entire paragraph. That is consistent (and understandable). Blur4760 14:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Digital Spy[edit]

I noticed you removed the section about critisms of Digital Spy by forum members. I have a couple of point to make about this

  • Wikipedia only recomends that forums are not used to verify content. Wikipedia also recomends that people are bold (WP:BOLD) when editing content. So, when discussing a forum, it is natural that forum content is used as verification as that is the subject under discussion.
  • The links that were included in that section did work when they were added. As you have noticed, they no longer exist. Digital Spy totally removed the threads from thier server after the links were added to Wikipedia. Does this not prove the accusations made against DS mods.

Rather than removing this content - would it not have been better for you to enter into the discussion on the talk page about how to cite these claims? Munta 14:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

In your reply to me you appear to have missed the first wiki code of conduct Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith

"Assuming good faith does not mean that no action by editors should be criticized, but that neither action nor criticism should be attributed to malice. Accusing the other side in a conflict of not assuming good faith, without showing reasonable supporting evidence, is another form of failing to assume good faith."

  • There was no malicious intent there yet you have assumed that there was! - my other contributions will atest to that fact that I do not make malicious contributions. Munta 16:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


Firstly, You have also removed a section that is is currently being discussed in the Talk page. Secondly, you accuse me of making a malicious edit Thirdly you ignore my point when I pointed out that accusing people of malicious edits is against Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith Munta 16:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Evidence for you not assuming good faith - "Personally it seemed libellous to be with some malicious intent" - your quote seems like prety good evidence to me. Munta 16:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I notice that you have not yet responded to this evidence of you not assuming good faith. As per WP:CIVIL I would ask that you apologise for and retract this comment on my talk page and we can call this matter closed Munta 10:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


There is obviosuly a dispute here and as per WP:CIVIL I am trying to resolve this and have given you ample opportunity to make ammends. I have suggested that you apologise for this comment yet you have refused to do so. Perhaps you would like to explain why you think "Personally it seemed libellous to be with some malicious intent" does not warrant an apology under WP:CIVIL and Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith Munta 10:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


Good faith - "In allowing anyone to edit, we must assume that most people who work on the project are trying to help it, not hurt it" Civility - "Ill-considered accusations of impropriety of one kind or another " and "Calling someone a liar, or accusing him/her of slander or libel. Even if true, such remarks tend to aggravate rather than resolve a dispute."

I made an edit in good faith and yet you accuse me of making a libelous and malicious edit. This is how those two sections relate to your comment and this is why you have not been civil towards me. I've have tried to resolve this amicably yet you seem intent on making false accusation to other wiki editors. This is not what wiki is about. Munta 10:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


Your last comment "No where have I accused you of anything, I've commented on content ("Personally it seemed libellous to be with some malicious intent"), you are construing my words."

Content cannot have intent - only users can have intent. You therefore said that I had malicious intent. And since it is a person that posts content, you are accusing me of posting libelous content. This is against WP:CIVIL and Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith. That is what I am seeking an apology for. I suggest you read these articles fully before treating other wiki editors with such contempt. Munta 10:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

unexpected.[edit]

hey. isn't it time to unprotect the unexpected article? it looks like the argument is over with. dposse 15:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

unexpected.[edit]

hey. isn't it time to unprotect the unexpected article? it looks like the argument is over with. dposse 16:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh? i thought it was you who asked for protection. I guess i was mistaken. I already asked for unprotection. dposse 16:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion on project talk page[edit]

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Collision (Heroes)[edit]

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Temporarily blocked[edit]

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Removed block based on a content dispute. --Chris Griswold () 22:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Looks like it was taken care of. Again, sorry about this. I saw these warnings, they appeared to be appropriate when I looked, and I noticed you have been blocked repeatedly before. --Chris Griswold () 22:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
"22:26, 24 February 2007 ChrisGriswold (Talk | contribs) blocked "MatthewFenton (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite" - now I'm blocked, forever :-\? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 22:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Unblocked. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 22:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Um. Yeah. Thanks. --Chris Griswold () 22:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Looks like Chris had some problem with pressing the right buttons in the unblock page :-) ✎ Peter M Dodge (Talk to Me) 22:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok[edit]

"In context your text is still present tense, however it is also convulsed in non-encyclopaedic ways."

I was just trying to find common ground with these IPs/new users, sorry Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 23:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I do hope this stops soon, I'll probably end up at 3RR later today :P .. Also, if you're interested, I ordered Wonderfalls today, and when I get it, I'll tell you how it is if you wish, if not, than that's okay.. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 23:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, um, I archived much of the Talk:Star Trek: Enterprise, how do you think I did? Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 01:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Company Man (Heroes episode)[edit]

Duly noted that the U.S. airdate was noted at the bottom of the article. But usually Canadian and U.S. airdates don't conflict with each other, so that was why I edited the infobox to reflect the dual airdates. I just wanted to let you know I had the best of intentions with that edit. Thanks! --Cooleyez229 09:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Earth 2[edit]

I'm re-upload image of series cast. New image is not crap. --Q Original 15:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Heroes airdates[edit]

Matthew: Thanks for adding the aux. note regarding Heroes airdates. I've tweaked the language slightly - I know you like your "Americaland" term, but it should be a bit more conventional. Anyway, thanks again - I have the feeling this will be an ongoing problem if Global continues to air a day early. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 21:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Illyria[edit]

It is pronounced 'Ill-ear-E-a' :P Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 22:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Excuse Me?[edit]

On the article Kristen Bell, on the discussion page. I do not know by what you mean by this..."Tomsnet has no reason to lie, Trampton please assume good faith....". We can not trust everyone!And how do we know Tomsnet is really her father,words can lie.Trampton 10:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Puddle Jumper[edit]

What exactly are you proposing be done here? I'm declining the speedy for now because it isn't clear why this should be deleted as housekeeping. Let me know what the intention is here.--Isotope23 16:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough... it helps when you explain why you need the namespace freed up.--Isotope23 17:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Done, the space is cleared.--Isotope23 17:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Medium.jpg)[edit]

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Stargate SG-1[edit]

Considering I'm the only one trying to open up dialogue about it maybe you should take the advice yourself. There are many things on Wikipedia that are uncited simply because they often cannot or are common enough knowledge that they do not need to be cited. Please do not try and strong arm me, if you wish to discuss the further, use the talk page as I have been requesting (and simply been ignored) rather than rediting it back. --Zikar 22:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

So, what is the matter at hand? Aside from the fact you obviously don't want something interesting and noteworthy added to the article? Oh, and you ignored me repeatedly when I asked to discuss it on the talk page (then had the audacity to tell me to discuss it on the talk page) --Zikar 22:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ping![edit]

  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by David Kernow (talkcontribs) 22:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

fall is amercias vesion of autum so autum 2007


Hi[edit]

Why do you have to revert every edit made to the Daedalus article?

User talk:Matthew/Archive/Archive 1 - My archive from December, 2005 - present.

Please leave your messages below, I will reply (on your talk page) as fast as I can. Matthew 18:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey-re the marissa cooper image change[edit]

I just felt it needed a change...coz the other one was really outdated...im looking for an existing image to replace the one thats currently there. if u have any problems tell me. -Breeana

Hi[edit]

Heya Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 19:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

/me was just being bored :D .. Anyway, gosh, don't you know etiquette on talk pages?! YOU MUST ADD A HEADING! And I had to like do that for you, what's with you!? /me stops the sarcasm.. Anyway, Hi Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 19:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

/me is at school.. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 19:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I took the plunge![edit]

Well, as of a few hours ago, I took the plunge and joined the Simple Wikipedia.. This is me.. Also, we should fix up The 4400 article that I'm going to create in the next few minutes.. I really hope you want to help me, but I will not be offended if you don't xD .. Have a nice night there, you cool UK person (I LOVE THE U.K. :P ).. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 02:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC) hello

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Medium.jpg)[edit]

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Your vote on SEWikipedia[edit]

I've now closed User:J Di's RfA on Simple English. J Di was not promoted, at 50% support. In the interests of fairness, I decided not to count votes from users which have not made any edits to the Simple English Wikipedia except to oppose the RfA, so your vote was not counted in the final result. If you have any questions at all regarding this or anything else, please direct them to my Simple English talk page. Thanks, Archer7 18:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Desperate Housewives[edit]

Agreed on "recurring" - that was a term that had been slipping thru the edits and ought to be removed - still; "Starring", "Also Starring" and "Guest Starring" are very valid terms. If you for some reason wanna delete this details for the article I suggest you put it up for suggestion on the talk page.Pjär80 22:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Colours for Buffy articles[edit]

Why have you just gone ahead and changed all the colours related to the Buffyverse with no discussion at all. Really you should have proposed the change and explained why it should be changed rather than just going ahead and doing it.--NeilEvans 20:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:P[edit]

HiyaIllyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 19:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Rfa thanks[edit]

Hey Matthew, just want to say thanks a bunch for supporting my Rfa which finally past yesterday - and as you say, another for the Brit cabal! I'm honoured to serve the community, cheers again Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 19:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: The Fleet[edit]

That's the back of the Gemini I believe - you can tell by the colored cargo pods. Cyberia23 20:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

There is no CGI in Blake's 7 - It was made in late 1970's to 1980 and all models :) If you've seen Doctor Who, the original series - not the new one, it's comparable to that. Even though the special effects are primitive it was very interesting show. Cyberia23 20:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the BBC had a limited budget back in the day, but the new Dr. Who which they also make is really well done with the latest CGI technology. Cyberia23 20:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded a new Gemini screen shot by the way. I figured out how to capture DVD clips with my laptop. Cyberia23 20:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

For the longest time I struggled with WinDVD and Microsoft Media Player using various screen cap programs but I'd always get a black box instead of the video image I wanted. I found out the problem was because DVD's play in a special video layer separate from your desktop. The trick was to force the DVD player to play video in the same layer as your desktop which hurt performance and made the movie choppy - yet I was still unable to get a capture since WinDVD refused to play without the layer active, and I updated to Media Player 11 and it's settings are different from Media Player 10 and below which allowed you to deactivate layers. I ended up using Snag It 8 - which allows you to catch images from the DVD layer using Active X. Now it works. Cyberia23 21:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

FTL (Battlestar Galactica)[edit]

Hey, I changed the image you made of the Galactica entering FTL. You just had the flash showing - I thought it would be better to show both the ship and the flash at the same time.

Did you change user accounts by the way? Cyberia23 21:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you notice the goof in that particular scene? Prior to the jump, Galactica closed it's hangar pylons - even Tigh said they must be closed or they can't jump - however, in the jump scene, the hangar pylons are fully extended. Ronald D. Moore admitted the mistake in the commentary on the DVD. Cyberia23 21:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I need a big favour![edit]

Hey, Matthew, um, I really like the format of List of The 4400 episodes and I was wondering if you could do that for List of Tru Calling episodes, I mean by removing the screenshots from the list page.. I am doing this for a few reasons, 1-Screenshots can take long to load for dial-up, 2-I've been much too lazy to add correct fair use rationale and reduce size, so I'm setting all of these images for deletion.. So, while you do that, I will be setting the images for deletion and removing reference to them on the individual episode pages, just to let you know that I'll be working too :P .. If you decide to do it, drop by on my talk page :) .. Thanks alot, and I'll owe you :P .. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 22:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

IM'ing[edit]

Nothing against you or anything, but I dislike IM's. I don't like being bothered when I'm online. Same reason why I refuse to own a cell phone and I know too many obnoxious people who'd call me constantly if I did. Cyberia23 23:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Flags[edit]

Matthew - re: your revert at Galactica, it's not an issue. However, when did you change your mind about flags? Seems to me you used to add them to the infoboxes. (Noticed you changed your ID, by the way. Makes sense to keep the surname "dark" on the Internet.) Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 08:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Manufacturers[edit]

Hi, I'm inclined to reject your assertion. Neither is registry a bounded relationship for e.g. for a starfighter. And if you look into my change before revert, you would see the string "Manufacturer(s)". -- Ylai 08:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your reply: No, it is not necessarily unimportant. The fictional setting can lend the importance regarding the manufacturer in term of the narrative context, which I in fact would argue in the case of SAaB. -- Ylai 09:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:NPA[edit]

Your patronising comment is clearly ad hominem and hence counts as a personal attack. Note that the list of examples on WP:NPA (I persume this is what you're referrring to?) is not exhuastive. Please direct your comments towards the substance and not the contributor in future- and you might also have a look at WP:TALK for your reference. All the best, Badgerpatrol 10:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You may wish to get a better dictionary (although Urban Dictionary is always fun- I particularly liked def. #3 "When something bad happens to someone and you honestley dont give a piss"- surely the height of erudition??). This definition was given by the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary (not a patch on urban dic in terms of reliability, of course....)

" exclamation UK HUMOROUS something you say to show that you feel no sympathy for someone who is behaving like a child: He called you a bad name, did he? Ah, diddums!".

I would say that ridiculing someone who has a fair point per WP:TALK and implying that are "behaving like a child" counts as a personal attack- wouldn't you? Please don't do it again. Badgerpatrol 11:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:LostNav[edit]

I'm afraid I have reverted your edit as it didn't work properly on 800x600 - it still appears with Kate and Walt on seperate lines. Number 57 09:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I have tried it on two different 800x600 monitors (different makes etc), and your version does not fit properly - the top line of "main characters" does not fit, and leaves kate on a seperate line. The same also happens to the second line of main characters. Number 57 10:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Perhaps you are using small/smallest text size in your internet browswer when viewing on 800x600? This is the only reason I can think of that allows you too see the whole template without line breaks? Number 57 10:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, I should have said that I tested it on two different computers (which have two different monitors). I can't imagine how you can see it fine on an 800x600 unless your text size setting is smaller or smallest. As you can see on the screenshot (which also proves the resolution is 800x600), it doesn't fit.
File:LostNavTemplateScreenShot.jpg
800x600 resolution - note the broken lines
Also, I haven't broken the 3RR as my first edit was not a revert but a new attempt to fix the problem. Number 57 10:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Any suggestions on how it can be done? Perhaps setting the text size in the template to 95%? Also, I don't understand why Libby is classed as a main character whilst Rose is not... Number 57 10:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Sadly not - the 4400 template also produces broken lines (which I have now fixed). I don't think it is a good idea to make such a major change as there are quite a few other people editing the Lost template and I don't think it would go down very well! Number 57 11:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Your new version still breaks the top line of main characters - Jordan Collier appears on the second line on his own. I am intrigued - what combination of screen/text size do you use? The edit I made fitted on 800x600 and 1024x768! Number 57 11:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
No, I'm afraid it has made it worse - now the Production, Main Characters, Elements and Miscellaneous lines are all broken. The template needs to be the maximum width allowed in Wikipedia at 800x600 to fit it all in. Number 57 11:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the 4400 one is fine now :) Progress! Number 57 11:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I think the best effort so far was this one, which could be broken after Kate as long as the left hand column can be fixed to remain the same width (putting in < br > as it is means the left hand column widens and ruins it!) Number 57 11:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
What do you think about the current version? Number 57 11:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Another slight tweak. Number 57 11:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Not even 8 Hours![edit]

Not even 8 hours left until the programme finale of Stargate SG-1! I can't wait :) , I should be positive it's ending, I mean, we still get those DVD movies later, plus 214 episodes is alot :P .. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 12:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Matthew Fenton?[edit]

You used to be Matthew Fenton right? What happened? I see this is a whole new account. And if you don't mind me asking, what happened after your request for adminship was denied? Something about vanishing.

Vala M 05:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand now, shame about you recieving negative emails.

Vala M 12:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:BITE[edit]

Don't bite the newbies, Matthew. A novice user who in good faith removes off-topic threads to a talk page shouldn't be doing that, but is in no way a {{blatantvandal}}. >Radiant< 09:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

  • He asked me to help on my talk page. And you might want to consider dropping the accusatory tone, it's not particularly WP:CIVil. >Radiant< 09:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Thanks, no problem. >Radiant< 10:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding removing user comments[edit]

Someone told me not to remove other people's comments from talk pages, even if I think they're off-topic, because it's not nice. Just thought you should know that, too--89.32.1.82 09:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, do I know you by chance?--89.32.1.82 11:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that's me. You know, an ip adress is not the same thing as a person.

Have a nice day, btw.--89.32.1.82 11:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

ZPM Note[edit]

I restored the quote to the way it was before the anon messed with it and turned it into pure speculation. The ZPM was heavily depleted in the course of the episode and this was stated, and it was not identified if the ZPM was depleted or not in the course of the episode, at the VERY least, the note that the ZPM was drained, should remain, even if the second half of the note should be removed - Count23 11:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thor[edit]

Hey, do you know if Thor appeared in Reckoning, Part Two? Thanks-Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 17:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh okay, thanks, I thought he did appear in Pt. Two as well, perhaps I'll re-watch that episode tonight (great episode).. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 17:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

future-felgercarb warning[edit]

Why you undid it in the List of Prison Break episodes? Season 2 contains many upcoming episodes with reviews from the Futon Critic. Moreover, the list of Lost episodes has the same warning. -- Magioladitis 13:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Why not? The summary changes vert often until we watch the episodes and for one more reason: many people add unconfirmed info and this is a goos warning before we remove it. --Magioladitis 13:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Chech this: Category for lists of upcoming episodes of a television series that are planned to be filmed/aired in the near future, and have been officially announced by either the production company or the television station.. So it is exactly our case. -- Magioladitis 13:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

For me it's clear that if such a warning should be both in Lost and Prison Break or in none. This warning have been made exactly for listing all the upcoming episodes. I'll put the warning exactly before the upcoming episodes just for you to show. Please tell me your opinion. Friendly, Magioladitis 14:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you in general believe that this tag is uneccessary or only for the specific shows? I think it's a way to know which show are running this season. I see that are many shows tagged with this "warning" -- Magioladitis 14:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. Of course, i still haven't convinced 100% what it's the best to do but at least now what the things you describe make more sense to me :) -- Magioladitis 14:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

FYI re: Stargate "Unending"[edit]

Matthew: Just so you know, I've restored the note about Michael Shanks' voice to Unending. While we're generally trying to avoid trivia, that particular note is an opportunity to illustrate some of the ways the show's creators add "in-jokes" to the program. The text is worded in a way that doesn't speculate as to the intent, but instead allows the reader to come to his or her own conclusions. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 17:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Yuser[edit]

Thanks for the head's up and it's taken care of:-) Jeffpw 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The Son Also Rises[edit]

Hey, can you change the image of Baltar reading the note to an image of Lampkin. A few people are requesting it be changed or an image of him added to the article. He technically was the main focus of that episode. Cyberia23 05:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E)‎.[edit]

I didn't think the YouTube link was allowed; that's why I removed it the first time. The IP re-added it not too long after I had got rid of it. I'm glad you removed it this time. Acalamari 20:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Grey's Anatomy[edit]

I see. my bad. But should Grey's Anatomy episodes (Season 3) article be changed to reflect this? It's kinda weird that canada airs before US, this being a US prog. Well, if you are sure, than okay, because I dont live in the states, nor canada. =)

Kays! =) GavinTing 15:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Primeval. Present or past?[edit]

When I edited Primeval and changed the original run 'last_aired' to today (March 17, 2007), you changed it back with the reason "Still present, series two has been ordered". I disagree. While series two has been ordered, and this is to be noted, the last_aired needs to be changed. However this is my own personall opinion. If it was noted that a second series is coming in 2008, Wouldn't it be better if it was changed? Scottie Too Hottie7 21:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Question about The Friendly Skies[edit]

Just wondering... what made you decide that this article satisfies WP:N? I still can't see any references that show that ""A topic is notable if it has been the subject of at least one substantial or multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject."

And.... you also deleted the {{unreferenced}} tag, without adding references to the article. Why? --Alvestrand 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

If the episode is the source, is it possible to give a citation for that? Either who published it on DVD, or network-and-date-of-transmission? I don't feel good about having nothing that looks like a citation - if I were to invent an episode of a TV show you had never heard of, and inserted it as a Wikipedia article, how would you go about verifying it? --Alvestrand 03:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Tense[edit]

Firstly, I apologise for reverting 4 times. I hadnt realised I'd got to 4. I certainly don't want to get into an edit was about this. I will change Crossroads, Eldorado etc back, but after that I will leave it. I do feel a bit victimised the way you took the ones I listed as examples and then changed them to suit you. These had been happily at past tense for a while and it is totally unnecessary to change them. --Berks105 17:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you ever listen to anyone? A neutral editor has come in and suggested you cool it. Instead you ignore them and carry on regardless. That is no way to behave on Wikipedia. --Berks105 17:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Please be civil to other users/admins. There is no reason to resort to such incivility. Please try to stay calm and keep a cool head. Skult of Caro (talk) 18:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Matthew, I'd like to apologise if at any point I seemed agressive or rude over at The Vicar of Dibley. It certainly wasn't my intention (I'm more interested in not letting this spiral out of control), and I didn't mean to insinuate anything regarding your membership of WP:IS NOT WAS. Happy editing! Farosdaughter 18:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

SG-1 Spoiler[edit]

Actually its not because as I was going through the page I got a good chunk of the story spoiled. But w/e I'm not going to get into an arugement or edit war over this.--88wolfmaster 21:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

3RR violation at Template:LostNav[edit]

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Matthew reported by User:Minderbinder (Result:) --Minderbinder 17:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey[edit]

Hey, dude, I just wanted to tell you that I'm going to take a Wikibreak for the next few days.. I'll explain on AIM later when I'm online.. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 18:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the stargate edits[edit]

Battle of P3Y-229

  • Yeah, there was an Ori ship lost during the fight when it got hit by the Kawoosh of the supergate activating. ALthough it wasn't from being destroyed by enemy fire, it was destroyed during the battle. Crad0010 20:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
    • That isn't what I saw during the episode. Crad0010 20:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Will you please ban this guy from Wikipedia?[edit]

Will you please ban this user[23] from Wikipedia? He keeps editing the airdate of the Grey's Anatomy episode My Favorite Mistake!! Now, I know for a fact that the correct airdate of that episode is March 29, 2007. However, the user I am referring to keeps editing the airdate to March 22, 2007, William Shatner's birthday!! So please ban that user from Wikipedia forever so that I don't have anymore problems, OK? Thank you very much. AdamDeanHall 20:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually it appears that he is right, not you. [24] And besides nobody will ever ban anybody for disagreeing with you, it's a content dispute. — MichaelLinnear 01:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

How dare you revert my edits. Cant u see i was trying to help. :(

Daedalus class[edit]

You want proof that the ship has missiles? Hello, we have seen it fire missiles multiple times. We have seen that they are visibly set up in a VLS setup as they launch from flush points in the hull rather then from missile launchers. This is common knowledge as of the very start of season 2 for SGA. Alyeska 07:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read Category:Television program cancellations by year before removing these categories[edit]

Please do not remove subcategories of Category:Television program cancellations by year from articles. This scheme is used for all programs regardless of the reason for the series end. Per the category description:

This is a set of subcategories of television programs by the year of cancellation, based on the broadcast date of the final original episode. These programs are listed regardless of whether the cancellation decisions were made by the broadcasters or the producers.

In other words it is not just for network cancellations, but for any series which has ended its original run. Dugwiki 15:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

One more thing, if you feel the category scheme's name is misleading, and would prefer something like "Category:Television program series ends by year", I'd recommend making that suggestion at WP:CFD. Dugwiki 15:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Matthew replies -

It matters not if the category's creator set that as its goal, obviously that goal is disputed - and - has no consensus backing it, to conclude: do not reinsert without a consensus and a verifiable source it was cancelled, barring that you'll more then likely be reverted, again. Matthew 15:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The goal is not disputed. It is clearly part of the overall scheme of including years of establishment/disestablishment of entities and works as category tags. If you feel the scheme doesn't have consensus, please feel free to direct me to a link indicating the dispute. Also, if you feel the category scheme should be altered, please feel free to bring it up at WP:CFD.

But barring that, you have to go by the clear instructions in the category for categorization. Dugwiki 15:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Just to follow-up, I went ahead and did a full rename nomination for this category scheme to make it "Television program series endings by year". That should remove any ambiguity in the title. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 22#Category:Television program cancellations by year for the cfd thread. So far the responses agree with the proposed rename, so hopefully once that rename is completed the issue will be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Dugwiki 17:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Spamming?[edit]

Sorry. I was adding what I thought were relevant external links to articles featuring relevant, original content.

However, I just read the Wikipedia:Spam guidelines and I can see how the links could be construed as spamming. Apologies. Elvissinatra 19:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Stargate Universe[edit]

Aargh... you out-typed me on the SU page. (Thanks, BTW.) I've made a few more tweaks, since you caught most of what I was changing anyways. Bad title, eh? --Ckatzchatspy 09:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

No need to revert... the italics code doesn't do anything in the O4 template, and the older text implies that there are other series that weren't produced by MGM. (Reword as you like, but please avoid the old MGM text as part of the first sentence.) --Ckatzchatspy 09:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
And yes, something new would be nice - especially a new storyline! I think they've kind of lost their way over the past few years - the show needs to get back to what it's really good at, which is the "small" stories as in the earlier seasons. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 09:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Re: infobox deletion - fair enough, and it wasn't formatting properly anyways. --Ckatzchatspy 10:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. --Ckatzchatspy 10:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Medium[edit]

Hey, that Leto61 continues to revert in Medium :X Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 20:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

4400 episode[edit]

You mean to tell me that the following is unmergeable information in the 4400 infobox ?

  1. producer: Not used at all
  2. imdb link: already in question on the main box, so why would we put it in infoboxes for episodes
  3. 4400: used 9 times and in all occasions also mentioned in the first sentence of the article

And I don't get the variable width part of your comment. As far as I can see both boxes use fixed em width's. --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 21:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Tense[edit]

I know "both of" (they are actually one and the same...) these guidelines. Which doesn't preclude my disagreeing. Especially seeing as your correction introduced a typo and a bigger inconsistency: if you intend to fix the tense, at least do it across the board. Slapping cleanup templates on a FAC when you are in the process of discussing with the main contributor is not very constructive either, which I why I swept it off. Circeus 14:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

But it is your duty to make sure your edits don't make the article worse. And knowingly making tense inconsistent inside a sentence does just that. Circeus 15:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Change of username[edit]

I notice that you've had your username changed. It would be helpful to others who have come across you in the past to make a small note of this on your userpage somewhere in the interests of transparency and accountability, seeing as there are RFA's and RFC's under your old account. Furthermore logged actions (not contribs) have not been transferred from your old account, so it is important these are made available. ed g2stalk 16:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see response on your talk. Newyorkbrad 16:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Current television series[edit]

people are using that template again. what do you think should happen to this template ? --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 01:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

the 4400[edit]

I have the DVD's bought from Amazon like it says there only 5 episodes not 6 yea it is a 2 hour but still only 5 openings and 5 credits so 5 episodes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leftkidney (talkcontribs) 09:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

the 4400[edit]

maybe on TV there were 6 but on the DVD it plays like 5 episodes not 6 there isnt a break half way for credits so only 5 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leftkidney (talkcontribs) 09:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

the 4400[edit]

so edit the page to say there are only 5 on the DVD box itself

it may have ben filmed like 6 and planed as 6 but when you play it it is only 5 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leftkidney (talkcontribs) 09:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

the 4400[edit]

an interview with the creator saying there are 6 is fine but it plays like 5 which I guess was the point when they made it

so why not edit the page to explain why there are 6 but only 5 episode names

the 4400[edit]

well obviously you are a fan boy so I wont bother with this crapLeftkidney 10:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


RE: BSG[edit]

So you liked the ending? I dunno if I cared much for it. I was surprised when some anon user added all the unsourced spoilers to Crossroads Part II a few days ago and I deleted them as nonsense - I thought waht he said was going to happen was rediculous but then, HE WAS RIGHT! Damn... All I say is that Season Four has some serious explaining to do. Tigh was one of the last people I'd think was a Cylon. But I dunno, All Along the Watchtower was kinda weird... and Starbuck's sudden return was kinda cheesy IMO. We'll we have a who frakkin year to wait to see what happens. I'm probably going to refine the plot for the episode later how it's written now sucks - I'll do it once all the hype dies down. I can't believe how many people scrambled to get the last word in last night after the show. I just sat back and watched the chaos unfold. Cyberia23 19:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you may be right - perhaps they are high beings of some sort, but what I found strange is during the opera house dream there were six white tapestries. I thought when D'anna saw the Final Five there were five tapestries - one for each white robed figure. Why were there six? COuld we have a 13th Cylon. I think the 12th is Roslin (she's sharing dreams with Six and Eight) or maybe Starbuck, but I'm thinking we'll find out there is a 13th as well, perhaps maybe Baltar after all. Baltar's hair and beard makes him looks like Jesus Christ, he now has worshipers who believe in him and follow him, he's gotta be something else that he doesn't realize yet. Maybe he's the anti-christ or something, but he's not human. Cyberia23 19:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah the BSG movie is supposed to air this fall on Sci Fi. I heard a rumor that it may deal with what happened to Starbuck from when she disappears to when she returns. Cyberia23 20:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I removed Starbuck because the image wasn't showing up for me, I thought someone in the history deleted the image link but left the thumbnail frame so I axed it. If you can fix it then put it back I guess. Cyberia23 00:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I use Mozilla Firefox. I only keep IE because, well Windoze throws a fit if you try an delete it, and I need it for updates from Microcrap as they'll only install with Active X and IE, which doesn't work with Mozilla. Starbuck shows up now. For some reason the tag started with two "{" instead of "[[" which was probably why it wasn't showing up. I updated the article, yeah it's long as shit now, but Starbuck is there. Saying she comes back isn't a spoiler IMO, but too many people are saying that she's definitely a Cylon and nothing in the show says that. Not even RDM. All he says was Starbuck was coming back in the end. I'm not fully buying that Anders, Tory, Tigh and Tyrol are Cylons - they're probably from Earth since Tyrol says it was music from "my childhood", and that like your assumption of Baltar, maybe they're some kind of higher beings who've forgotten their past and are just now awakening memories of who they really are. Cyberia23 08:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion stacking[edit]

Please don't engage in discussion stacking[25]. Our decision process is substantially disrupted when people use side channels to slant discussions in their favor. It's especially bad that you are doing so with such an inaccurate and inflammatory characterization of Ed's actions. There is no rational basis for your claim that Ed's proposed language would completely prohibit screenshots from Wikipedia. Please be more considerate in the future. --Gmaxwell 16:03, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

EFC[edit]

I appreciate your opinion on the boxes around the quotes; but there is nothing wrong with them. I also don't agree that there is too much white space; I think it helps separate the seasons a bit better. Please don't use your opinions are wiki guidelines. FrankWilliams 16:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The majority of web users use IE not Firefox; it seems silly to worry about a formatting issue that occurs with small percentage of Firefox browsers. BTW: what is MOS? FrankWilliams 16:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW: are you an Administrator? FrankWilliams 17:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

You can go to : http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp where stats for web browsers are listed. There stats are based on actual usage not what comes pre-installed on systems. Also, the average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers. Not saying IE is better just that most people use it. FrankWilliams 17:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

lol, he brings this argument into the discussion quoting that page ? Firefox and friends are at 36.8 % of the browser usage according to w3schools. That's well over 1/3 of the users dearest Frank :D That's not an amount any webpage editor should ignore, and definetly not wikipedia. (i'm guessing that the average FF usage under Wikipedia editors is even much higher than this average, and then we DEFINETLY shouldn't ignore it. --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 19:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I have a question[edit]

How do you revert a picture back to the way it used to be? Adelyna 05:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

S.S. Doomtrooper[edit]

Do you really think that a quasi-slapstick movie starring Corin Nemec in which a character is named Parker Lewis and says the line "I just can't win," leaves any speculation as to whether or not there is intent to reference Nemec's show "Parker Lewis Can't Lose"? Do you honestly question that link?Conn, Kit 13:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.[edit]

Thank you for your support in my RfA. :) Acalamari 20:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Fire + Water pic[edit]

Why did you revert the change I made? It was much better, and you didn't even say why. -- SilvaStorm

Excuse me? Mine's crap?! Mine had more to it, it actually showed a character and wasn't just a statue. And what are you talking about, it does have a fair use rationale - TV-screenshot. -- SilvaStorm

Yo[edit]

Yo, I'm too lazy to get onto Instant Messaging right now, and I just wanted to say that I will not be on the computer as much starting this Saturday-31 March.. So, if you need to get a hold of me, please use Wikipedia User Talk, or my E-Mail.. Have a great day! Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 23:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Nope[edit]

Revert your reverts :) the March 14th CfD decided to keep and repopulate all the prominent ones.~ZytheTalk to me! 10:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It's been in the article history for a long time. It's not a big deal to me, I was just repopulating the category to how it was before the botched CfD.~ZytheTalk to me! 10:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Daedalus[edit]

Great copyediting, but be careful to use American English for an American-based television show article, rather than traditionally British English terms like 'dialled' and 'manoeuvre'. Personally, I prefer those words as well, but the manual of style dictates otherwise. Just a thought. Cheers! -- Huntster T@C 15:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, I understand. Not a big deal; I catch what I can. I'm a born American and I still use British spellings in my personal work. -- Huntster T@C 16:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Thank you for your support on my recent successful RfA.--Anthony.bradbury 10:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Left-aligning image in David Tennant[edit]

I have to say that I disagree with your edit summary reasoning. You said that having images on the left is "silly", this is something I have never heard or seen in practice in any other article, is there some strange policy? And I believe I had clear reason, three images in close sucession on the same side looks "silly" in my opinion. I'm not reverting it yet, I'm just curious as to why you think it was wrong. Gran2 16:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay that's fine, I just wanted to check. I concede. Gran2 17:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Trivia template[edit]

Hello Matthew,
You wrote on my user page that notices and comments such as the trivia-notice are needed to establish community consensus about the status of a page. I don't see how. Can you explain that to me?

The Steven Soderbergh probably contains too much trivia. Nobody is arguing with that. So, now consensus has already been reached about the fact that the article contains too much trivia, why do we still need the template?

More important, why do we have to tell that to the general reader? If you look at the Steven Soderbergh article, hardly anything on that page is presented more prominently than the fact that that article contains a trivia section. Is that not something that would be more appropriate to discuss on the article's talk page? Johan Lont 12:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

LOE[edit]

Sorry about that, didn't see the replies. However, I'm in agreement with ed_g2s in the discussions you mentioned (and as you can see on my talk page, I consulted him about it first). I know it doesn't seem fashionable to say it but I think that the pictures add nothing and so by FUC shouldn't be there. ...adam... (talkcontributions) 23:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Woah tiger - I'm not being hot headed (although thats the first thing someone who is being hot headed says), I apologised for the slightly hasty removal and then expressed my opinion. There is no edit war (unless someone else is warring now without my knowing), I didn't revert your revert or anything of the sort - I replied on the talk page. Also, out of curiosity - where does it say that consensus overrides policy? (no sarcasm there - that was the least sarcastic wording I could find of that question.) ...adam... (talkcontributions) 23:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thats cool. I'm still pretty new at this thing. I understand what you say about consensus - however, I think I lie in that minority. I don't actually like the policy and think that the images should stay, but I'm a big believer in free content and following the policy. I have absolutely no intention of fighting this issue though - this seems such a massive issue that there's bound to be a policy change sooner or later that will make this gray area black or gray. Thanks for the clarification though, I will save the whole of those conversations for some bedtime reading and digest them properly. ...adam... (talkcontributions) 23:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Sopranos Internet Leak[edit]

Thanks for the advice pal, I read what it said...

"If you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry). Linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on Wikipedia and its editors."

So I have linked to a mainstream news article found on google news that indicates that this is indeed a fact that it has been leaked. So now Wikipedia is not linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work. I assume we don't have a problem now.--Barockoiiu 02:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

SG-1[edit]

How is that worse? An organized table should be better than a long list. and if the objection is because of the use of flagicons, fine, I choose to use them to break up the list.--88wolfmaster 21:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Majorly's RfB[edit]

Hey Matthew, thanks for your kind support in my RfB. Sadly, it didn't pass, but I appreciate the support and I do intend to run again eventually. I'll see you on MSN no doubt ;) Majorly (o rly?) 02:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Templates[edit]

I've reverted the addition of the "obnoxious" template to multiple articles; clearly it has no consensus for the insertion within articles, secondly it is now standardized, thirdly it has no direct purpose nor is it actually compliant/backed by any policy (you'll have to do better then appending "per WP:NOT", etc). I'd advise you to get consensus to insert that template within articles, it is disputed. Matthew 17:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry no - you aren't a vigilante of Wikipedia - you say all of those things yet the discussion is still going on. When a page is nominated for deletion - do you delete the page first and delete the links to that page before it's actually discussed and agreed upon - no, that's absolute crap and you should know better.Daniel()Folsom |\T/|\C/|\U/|(Can you help me with my signature?) 17:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
The lack of consensus would be you removing it in the first placeDaniel()Folsom |\T/|\C/|\U/|(Can you help me with my signature?)
Actually I did not mean to misrepresent your comments and I have not - pointing out a flaw wouldn't be misrepresenting. However, I will say that I am unsure of which edit yo urefer to when you say "Your edit to pages insertting that templates". If you mean the first time - then yes, by that logic you would delete the article and links to the article before the consensus to delete was reached (and return the article if the conensus was keep). If you mean the second time (after you removed them) - then the comment above applies.Daniel()Folsom |\T/|\C/|\U/|(Can you help me with my signature?) 17:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm not re-adding the template because frankly you would delete them again, and also the consensus you described would lead to an off-topic discussion at the TFDDaniel()Folsom |\T/|\C/|\U/|(Can you help me with my signature?) 17:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

References[edit]

Please provide more of a reasoning. WikiProject Television considers TV.com a reliable source for television information like production codes.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Where is the unreliability of TV.com? You're using IMDb.com on all those individual episode pages. I see TV.com on the Pilot's page and the other pages.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
BTW, your other supporter Peregrine agreed on the new format. This new format also got the list featured status. Since an admin didn't find that TV.com meets WP:RS, there is no reason to remove them.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I apologize about assuming Tom was an admin. I thought only admins could do the "approved" stage. I wasn't aware that they had it set up like GAC. As for the "you're", I was meaning the universal "you", but, you specifically haven't gone to those pages for clean up. That isn't your job, I know that, but creating almost 100 more isn't going to solve the problem with the other pages. As for the Prod Codes, I'll search for a better source, and if I cannot find one then I will remove that column of information.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I've ignored it. But I do see where I misinterpreted what you were saying, or I think I see. You were calling the seasonal pages "disgusting" (if true, then I agree). If you couldn't find any prod code with RS, then I'll go ahead and remove them. As for the images. Since I removed the plots, for article size purposes, I figured I should remove the images. Also, almost all of the images have Kryptonsite on them. I plan (I still have another 3 weeks of spring semester) to go through my DVDs and screen capture the same images again, so that they don't have kryptonsite on them. Also, it's much easier to prove fair use for 22 images in one article, than it is for 127 images. The season pages need better formatting. There are 127 episodes, as of right now, and even you have to admit that you won't be able to provide enough substance, reliably, for every one. I'm thinking that those seasonal companion books that Craig Burn, and Paul Simpson, created will probably have production information in them. I don't know for sure because I've never actually come across one personally.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

"Be bold!" with B5[edit]

Thanks; I didn't want to be the one being that bold, after getting into it with other editors who are more spam-tolerant than I. --Orange Mike 16:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


Rude and Inappropriate Name-Calling[edit]

Spamming[edit]

"Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Matthew 19:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)"


I wasn't spamming, and I think you are extraordinarily rude for throwing that term at me on my User Talk page. I didn't post the link, but when I looked at it, it seemed to me that the interview with Hatch nicely augmented the article, which is why I put it back. I remind you of WP:LAWYER and WP:OWN, and request you to not plaster my page with any more false, inappropriate, and unfortunately-unremovable-according-to-Wikipedia-rules warnings.
Spammers are evil scum, and I am literally trembling with fury that you would call me that vile name. How would you like it if I called you a motherfucker? You wouldn't like that, so don't call me a spammer.
-- Angrily, Davidkevin 20:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. Matthew 20:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


They aren't inappropriate, they aren't commercial spam, none of them are advertising, every single one of them is relevant to the article, and what you're doing is personally insulting to me and vandalism to the article. I'm requesting adminstrative review. -- Davidkevin 20:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Removing a New York Times article as you did here isn't removing "spam". IrishGuy talk 22:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Note: A thread regarding the above has been initiated on WP:AN/I. - auburnpilot talk 22:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with Irishguy. I've restored the links, except for one which may be far-fetched. Care to explain why you removed them, as they are obviously not spam? --KZTalkContribs 22:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Talky[edit]

Hey, no problem, that is what friends are for. Anyway, again, I have no desktop with internet to use, except at school (I'm borrowing my Dad's notebook presently, but at home, I have to use my crippled internet with my Handheld, with NO keyboard, and I must use the stylus :X ).. Anyway, hey, um, I could not get AIM for the Handheld, but could we IM with MSN temporarily? My MSN is my AIM screen-name plus @hotmail.com.. How're you doing? Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 21:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, hey, also, I am going to see a movie soon, so I'll see you later of your day.. Also, check it out,my userpage is now a redirect to my talk page. It's so much better, anyway, see you later... Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 00:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Picture Deletions[edit]

It has become aware to me that you have been deleting some of my Battlestar Galactica screenshots. I understsand that you may feel that some of the picture are unnecessary, but all of these picture are there to enhance the quality of the articles I am adding. I, as always will not load articles full of screenshots, but I will only add pictures where they are more helpfull in explaining the information of an article than mere words. If you believe they are redundant, please make your arguement with me instead of deleting them. Sith Penguin Lord 01:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Andrew van de Kamp page ..[edit]

Hi Matthew,

Why do you keep deleting the updated picture of Andrew van de Kamp ? I posted and chance some of the other changes like making some text´s bold... I mean quit being so annoying or give me a good reason not to post that picture of Andrew ..? Darth Yotho 00:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Attitude with a capital A[edit]

Why are you like this ??? because you think it's crap it has to be deleted. It's a promo image made by ABC to portray both Andrew and the actor Shawn ...

As I read your talk-page, I can see you have quite a habit of pulling these kind of stunts ..

Well if you have any brains you can make the connection yourself ;)DarthYotho 22:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it is you who has the attitude.. Illyria05 (Talk  Contributions) 17:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)