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Hello, Matthewvetter, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

I'm Steven, a Wikipedia editor like you, and I noticed that you made a helpful change to Occupy movement. Thank you for your contributions. Wikipedia is a community of volunteers who want to build a great free encyclopedia, and we need your help. We have five simple rules, but other than that, we just need people like you to be bold and edit.

If you have questions of any kind, feel free to ask me on my Wikipedia talk page or by email.

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Saw your message for La Pianista[edit]

Hi! I'm a friend of Pianista's and a fellow ambassador, based in New Zealand. Your class sounds like one I'd love to be an ambassador for, if you need any further help. Do let me know! sonia♫ 06:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

New message at my talk. In short, I'd be glad to help out. sonia♫ 23:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
And another. Cheers. sonia♫ 02:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I've moved the drafts to User:Sonia/Writing and Rhetoric drafts, where I intend to review them all today. Apologies for the delay and the lack of notification; I've just returned from a conference to a pile of real-world work. sonia♫ 00:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Newly minted Campus Ambassador![edit]

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Here's the info on the Wikipedia trademarks. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 02:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg Thanks for editing students participating this semester! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2012 (UTC)


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Forgot to leave you a note that I'd replied, sorry! sonia♫ 07:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

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Your article submission Hollis Summers[edit]

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Writing Course[edit]

Hi Matthew,

Thank you for inviting me to be an online ambassador for your writing course. I would normally be glad to accept, but the specific time you need reviews is going to be an exceptionally busy time for me outside of Wikipedia, most notably because of a wedding I am standing in and helping prepare for in early August. For this reason, I will have to decline. I hope you are successful in securing two online ambassadors for the course.

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Nice work![edit]

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Posted automatically via sandbox guided tour. Matthewvetter (talk) 20:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikiproject Appalachia[edit]

Hi, Matthew.

I'm pleased to see that Wikipedia's Appalachia articles are going to be a focus for some student attention. Several years ago, WikiProject Appalachia was organized as a focus for cooperation (and hand-wringing, at times) in improving Wikipedia coverage of topics related to Appalachia. A couple of the students seem to have found their way to the wikiproject talk page.

I invite you and the students involved in this activity to interact on the wikiproject talk page, review past discussions, look at resources like most-viewed pages in the wikiproject, and otherwise engage with project members. (Maybe some students will want to join the Wikiproject and continue contributing after the class ends!). --Orlady (talk) 17:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi [reply to|Orlady]! Thanks so much! Wikiproject Appalachia has been such a useful source for. I will definitely encourage students to get involved! Matthewvetter (talk) 13:16, 11 August 2014 (UTC)


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Writer Biographies for Creative Nonfiction[edit]


Thanks for agreeing to help out with our class project to create Wikipedia entries for CNF authors. I'll set up the course page today, and do the tutorials over the course of next week. I'm so excited about this! Thank you for all your help. I would never dare to try this without your support. Wikipedia is intimidating! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SarahEMC2 (talkcontribs) 11:46, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

@SarahEMC2: I am totally excited too. I will see what I can do as campus volunteer to help with the Course page. Don't hesitate to message me if you want to get together over the weekend. All of this stuff can be intimidating at first, but also really fun! Don't forget to sign your talk page posts with four tildes! Matthewvetter (talk) 12:28, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Harriet Malinowitz[edit]

The info box claims she died in 2009, but articles on the web indicate she has been alive since then ([1]). Please explain and revise article as necessary. Antrocent (♫♬) 02:21, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Antrocent: I was in the process of correcting this when you patrolled. Matthewvetter (talk) 02:25, 12 October 2014 (UTC)



You recently subbed for Sarah in our class. I am still having a hard time coming up with a topic/person to edit on Wikipedia. I was wondering if you had any suggestions. Thank you!

Ashleynoelle1 (talk) 20:51, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Ashley

@Ashleynoelle1: Definitely. What are you interested in? What do you study? Let's start from there.

Matthewvetter (talk) 21:07, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I am interested in women's health and fitness. Also, in women scientists. I am studying Biology here at OU with a pre-medical pathway. I have looked at a few women scientists, but cannot seem to find much info about them on the web. Thanks!

````Ashley — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

@Ashleynoelle1:OK I remember talking to you now. Give me an hour or two and I will see what I can come up with. I'll leave you some possibilities on your Talk page. Don't forget to sign your talk comments with four tildes- you can also use a colon (:) to indent a reply. Matthewvetter (talk) 21:19, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

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May 2015[edit]

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Hi! I understand you are using Wikipedia as a teaching aid. The first thing your students will need to know here is that we do not tolerate copyright violations. As an aid to identifying those, we often use a couple of tools, this and this. The latter gives very clear results when a page is compared with a known or suspected source, the former scans more widely. Had you known of them, either would have told you that the content added to Harvey Milk High School was lifted pretty much word-for-word from the two newspaper articles cited as sources; a quick visual inspection of the student's sandbox would have told you the same. Your re-addition of the copyvio to the article after it had been very correctly removed was not acceptable; please make sure you do not do that again. You were also edit-warring at that page, which again is not acceptable behaviour here. You could now help the project by checking all contributions made by any student of yours, and completely removing any other copyright violations. If you have questions about this and ask them here, I should see that you have done so, and will answer if I can. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Justlettersandnumbers. I am aware of the policies on copyright. I do spend considerable time talking with my students about this. Of course, students sometimes still misunderstand. I apologize for adding some of the material back. The student in question was also being censured for adding queer/lgbtq content and I was trying to help ensure that his first experience editing wasn't one of complete redaction and erasure (when not all of his contribution was problematic). In my attempt to protect my student, I may have gotten a bit zealous. Apologies for that. Thanks for working with us to improve the article. Matthewvetter (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Change in your user rights[edit]

Your Wikipedia account was previously granted a user right called "course instructor" by the Wiki Education Foundation. That right enabled you to create a course page through the EducationProgram MediaWiki extension. Starting in fall 2015, the Wiki Education Foundation has discontinued its use of this extension. Going forward, users should create course pages through the Wiki Education Foundation website. That application is more user-friendly, and any content is automatically mirrored to Wikipedia. To prevent confusion, we'll be removing your "course instructor" user right, as it is not needed with the new system. This is simply a notification of the technical change to your account. No action is needed from you at this time.

If you plan on teaching with Wikipedia for the fall 2015 term, please email me ( for instructions how to create your next course page using our new system. --Helaine (Wiki Ed) (talk), sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Research paper[edit]

Hello there! I have written a chapter of my PhD on the Oral Citations Project ( and your username appears in the chapter as having made an edit to the article. Please let me know if you would like me to send you a draft of the chapter before Wednesday 12 August for you to review it. Many thanks! --hfordsa (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Hfordsa: Yes, I would really like to take a look. Thanks! Matthewvetter (talk) 16:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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It's not the job of WP editors to rewrite unusable student contribs[edit]

Copied here from the student page where you asked:[2]

Hi Matt, looking over your talk page I see this has come up before, so I'm going to copy this there as well. My priority is the 'pedia, not test edits by students. I've usually cut students more slack, but if the edits aren't improvements, the student status of the editor is not a reason to keep them in the articles. Recently the Indigenous articles have been hit by quite a few edits that show a lack of understanding of the subject matter. In many cases it is clear that the student editor didn't even read the article they are trying to change. There have been many copyvios. As I said above, it is not our job to rewrite this stuff. Either the students learn to function like any Wikipedian or they don't edit. The 'pedia is more important than their course grade. - CorbieV 17:17, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi@CorbieVreccan: I think you are misunderstanding my comment. I'm not worried about the student's course grade, and certainly not placing more value on that than the content or quality of the new content being added. Rather, I am interested in an encyclopedia that might work with novice editors. That's all I am asking, is that you work more with the student rather than reverting their edits wholesale. In any case, this student has expressed a desire to work with you, so she will be trying to re-write her additions with the suggestions you made about tense. Maybe you can use this as an opportunity to collaborate and even teach a newcomer to the Wikipedia community. I would never ask WP editors to rewrite student content and I am slightly disappointed by your heading line. New editors are also editors, not only students. Thanks! Matthewvetter (talk) 17:50, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Matt, we help out new editors every day here. But everyone has their limits. We can't individually tutor every single one who messes up an article. Like any new user, they need to read the policies and other links we post for them. In many cases it is clear they are not doing so. Now and then a student editor does a good job and becomes a Wikipedian. But lately we've just seen too many who are clearly only trying to get their grade and don't care one bit about the quality or integrity of the 'pedia. This is a serious problem and if you haven't noticed it in the areas where you work, I suggest you look at some of the other edits that are coming from these courses. If some of the editors you've responded to sound annoyed... Matt, they have every reason to be. Articles are being damaged, and when you champion edits that are unusable, it makes it harder on everyone. - CorbieV 22:47, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi@CorbieVreccan:. Thank you for you your response. Again, I am not asking anyone to "individually tutor every single" student. I am a bit confused on why you continue to repeat that idea. All I was asking, originally, was whether it was possible to work with student edits rather than reverting them wholesale. If you have no interest in doing that, I can't convince you to collaborate with novices. I'm sorry you have had negative experiences with Wiki Ed in the past. If there are specific articles "being damaged" that I can help improve, let me know. You can email me at I am not trying to "champion edits that are unusuable," but rather to help new editors have something of a voice. Matthewvetter (talk) 12:57, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016[edit]

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Indigenous Peoples of North America, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Diff:[3] - CorbieV 19:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi@CorbieVreccan:- Thank you for your welcome. I am confused by your advice about editing comments on Talk:Indigenous Peoples of North America, though.. The edit you refer to is simply the removal of a student assignment working with Wiki Ed and was performed from the Wiki Ed dashboard that give instructors permissions to add and remove student assignments. The student in question did not end up working with this article, so it doesn't make sense to leave that assignment. I am posting this on your Talk page as well. This is beginning to feel spiteful. Matthewvetter (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
From here, your interactions with other editors are looking to me like a serious case of WP:IDONTHEARYOU. There have been a handful of incidents now where other editors have explained something to you, and you respond in a manner that seems you did not read their explanations. You again ask the same questions that have already been answered for you in multiple places. This has the effect of wasting editors' time and causing annoyance and friction with people who would rather be doing productive work. You still don't seem to realize that the "article" you refer to[4] is a redirect, and that trying to place an article there would be going against WP consensus. This again shows you are not paying attention. Rather than striking the text and disabling the template, you removed someone's edit that already had a reply, rendering the talk page nonsensical, so I informed you of the policy and provided the diffs. Again, this was all explained to you already. You need to get a grasp of basic policy because right now your actions are not helping the 'pedia or the editors here. You don't need to have the same conversation in three or four places, by the way. - CorbieV 19:50, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi@CorbieVreccan:-By all means, please don't waste your time on my talk page anymore. I don't find your explanations especially helpful, rather they tend to be condescending and hostile. I was trying to remove the student assignment from the redirect, as explained above, because the student did not do editing work on page. This is performed from the Wiki Ed dashboard, which does not show the previous edits. Please wp:assumegoodfaith. If we are wasting your time, don't engage. As I said on the article on gender roles, the student has given up on trying to work with the particular editor culture of that article. Thank you. Matthewvetter (talk) 20:08, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Je717811/sandbox/Women In Country Music[edit]

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