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Re: deleting spoilers

WRT Deleting spoilers:

You got me in the middle of making the change. Look at the history: my change at 16:27, 4 December 2012 UTC‎, your reversion at 16:36, nine minutes later! Have a little patience, please. I'm going to revert your change and copy this reply to your User talk page. --Thnidu (talk) 17:07, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, I hope it's settled now. See Talk:The_Mousetrap#Twist_ending_tradition. --Thnidu (talk) 18:24, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


Cupcakes are never small 1-2 inch cakes but Fairy Cakes can be. in fact were when I was a child and cup cakes were often known as Patty Cakes before American popular terms became popular from the 1980's onwards. I sometimes feel that Wikipedia ignores certain things like this and erases it from "Wiki History" I quoted the British Food Trust which you deleted. They are the guardians of traditional British food and recipes, far more reliable than newspaper articles and cookbooks I would appreciate it if my minor contribution with a sound reference is not continually deleted Firebuild —Preceding undated comment added 21:17, 4 December 2012‎


Why did you undo my edit to the caption on the image in this article? The image does not show children playing; this is patently not true. The image shows an oil painting from the 1800s. Since when have paintings (the physical manifestations of the painters' singular and subjective perception of the world) become accepted as sufficient encyclopedic documentation of a real-life occurence - in this particular instance a moment from a game of hide-and-seek? (talk) 12:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Sam Houser edit

Hi There. I edited the Sam Houser Nationality because Sam is British born to British parents and raised in Britain. Someone tried to add/make out that Sam was 'somewhat American' by adding he was 'Born in Britain but now American'. Just because someone works in America or moves to America doesn't make them American does it? Nobody else on on Wikipedia has been given the title of 'American' just because they work or moved to America,so why should Sam? --Boxerboi31 (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Sam Houser edit

Hi There. I edited the Sam Houser Nationality because Sam is British born to British parents and raised in Britain. Someone tried to add/make out that Sam was 'somewhat American' by adding he was 'Born in Britain but now American'. Just because someone works in America or moves to America doesn't make them American does it? Nobody else on Wikipedia has been given the title of 'American' just because they work or moved to America, so why should Sam? --Boxerboi31 (talk) 18:14, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Star Trek

I'm very dissapointed you dleeted my reference. I have a reputation of being accurate with my information on Wikipedia, and tend to be disspasionate. I am in the process of linking fictional Sikh charachters, and your deletion is confusing links I have created. Just because you are a Sikh, it does not mean you are an Indian. The two do not go hand in hand. You can be Sikh and Afgani, You can be Sikh and Pakistani, you can be Sikh and American. In anycase watch the episode he stars in first. I don't like doing google referencing but in this case I cannot find references to him being Indian, just Northen Indian and being a Sikh. See here, and here here page 23 "With all due respect to my heroic Sikh ancestors....." onwards Khan himself talks about him being a Sikh? I don't want to take this to [WP:Mediation] as you will reinstate my refernced section. I have plently of otherreferences including the clip of his first appearance in Star Trek to back up what I am saying. By all means add North Indian Sikh, but pleas be accurate in his description. All the best SH 18:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

OMG, I just read my poor punctuation and grammar. Who would think I was writer? LOl. All the best SH 18:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

RE: Social Media page edit

Hi McGeddon, this is about you message on my Talk page (below):

" Hello, I'm McGeddon. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Social media, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 09:32, 11 December 2012 (UTC)"

Nav Dhami, the author cited, is an analyst with Media Monitors / Sentia Media, one of the world's biggest media intelligence organisations. For some of his articles, visit the following links at the Media Monitors global website, as well as that of the New York-based George Maciunas Foundation.

I believe the quote as well as the citation is appropriate and authoritative on account of the above published examples from fairly prominent online sources. I'll wait for a while for your response, and if there is none, I'll proceed to reinstate the citation as well as the quote, which is quite relevant in the context of the Social Media article.

AM_GlobalBerliner (talk) 11:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixing reflinks

You are most welcome. =) It's gotten to the point where everytime I add a link into the article, I cross my fingers and go "I hope the McGeddon editor comes, I hope the McGeddon editor comes, I hope the McGeddon editor comes" and then when I see that you've adjusted all the links, you have no idea how pleased I am. Because if links don't look the way you've put them in, I believe it runs the risk of becoming a dead link and the information later becoming unfounded. Now wish me luck because I am going to try to read this reflinks page and do what you're doing (gulp) but I hope you don't mind if I'm having trouble and come running back to you. Also, if you would continue keeping an eye out on that article, it be much appreciated. ;) (talk) 14:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

How does redirecting the page to court show grab you? Most of the scholarly sources I find on these shows refers to these shows as "court show", not "judge show." Or is doesn't it really matter? (talk) 14:48, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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For continued warm and enlightening assistance and instructive help on the side while at the same time patrolling and inspecting Wikipedia. (talk) 15:15, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Please feel free NOT to wikihound me, thanks

Hallo there,
thanks for your good faith suggestions.
In sicilian language we have a saying:

"Acqua, cunsigghi e sali sinza dummannati nun ni dari"

which loosely translated sounds like

"Water, suggestions and salt, if noone asks you for them, don't give them away".

As well Ancient Romans used to say:

"Melius est abundare quam deficere"

which loosely translated stands for:

"It's better to give more than to give less".

So as for what is written "redundantly" in my edit summaries your suggestions are welcome especially for my "typing saving" (I don't really mind though because I have a speed of almost 100 wpm).
Please note that there is a vast majority of other wiki-editors that don't even bother in filling this so called "edit summary" so I would kindly suggest you to focus your attention on them rather than on me.
Not to mention that this is not the first time that I feel like you are wikihounding me.
Please feel free to have a nice weekend... because on next Monday morning we will not be able to "undo and/or edit them".
  M aurice   Carbonaro  12:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


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Hello McGeddon

There is no law on the statute books that prohibits The Village of Stilton from making or marketing their traditional and new cheeses under "Stilton Village Cheese". Therefore there is no reference or citation available. Yes they can make Blue Veined Cheese.

The two applications with DEFRA that protect the "Stilton Cheese" mark are dubious, irregular and unlawful.

The Stilton Cheese Makers Association - is based in Surrey - OUTSIDE of the Zone and/or Stilton. The Inspectorate is based in Sussex. No part of the applications makes either party qualified by being a "Vested Interest". Under regulatory law, neither party is qualified to hold or sustain the protection order. Certainly no comment is included in the application to qualify either party.

The trade mark registration for "Stilton Cheese" does not exclude "Stilton Village Cheese" from being a separate mark.

"Stilton Village Cheese" is protected by localization regulations that prevent none vested persons or entities from claiming it. Likewise for "Stilton Village"

I have family connections via diary and trade journals that put Mrs. Frances Pewlett (Cheese maker) in Wymondham in her earlier years, being advised by the Daniels family to move her business to The Great Royal Route (Great North Road south of Peterborough). The Yaxlee/Yexlee/Yaxley branch of the family brought Blue Cheese from Mrs. Frances Paulett at here home in Stilton. The Yaxlee's had a shop and eatery in Yaxley.


Neville A. Daniels -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevilleadaniels (talkcontribs) 19:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi, Thank you for your welcome note. I am new but active in wiki. I am creating and editing articles too. I hope I can do this well but if any mistake from my side please correct me. I don't want to give a chance for deleting my articles. Mydreamsparrow (talk) 19:24, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Derren Brown middle name

Hi. I'm fairly new to wikipedia editing, so how would I accurately add his middle name to the page? I found it off his website -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Samberson (talkcontribs) 19:27, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Page move request

Hey there McGeddon, Could you move the Mabel Simmons page to Madea per WP:COMMONNAME. The character is widely known as Madea, not Mabel Simmons. Most of the scholarly sources about the character speak of her as Madea, not Mabel Simmons and I've even found a source that states flat out that this character is better knwon as Madea which I've stuck in the article while its under Mabel Simmons. I tried moving the pages but of course since I don't have an account that is also established, I had to take an alternate route. But when I did, I was told this on my user talk page:

Although moving "Mabel Simmons" to "Madea" is acceptable, your method is a problem. A "cut and paste move" causes problems because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Please revert your cut and paste moves and follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Cresix

The move has been undone due to the contribution history being lost due to the cut/paste of content. Moving page content with just a cut/paste is a violation of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License under which Wikipedia operates, as it makes the true contribution history invisible. --- Barek

After Barek undoing my page move, I provided a scholarly source as to the character being better known as Madea, so there's at least credibility to my claims despite the fact that I think it's pretty much common knowlege due to the popularity of the character as Madea. Here's the source that states "Mabel Simmons better known as Madea" [1] (talk) 22:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Majestic plural usage

Hallo there McGeddon (talk|contribs),

thanks for contributing to Wikipedia and, especially, for showing interest in the "Axiom" wikipedia article.
As stated in your Edit Summary comment for the "undoing change" you performed today
(I quote: "(...) we do not need a two-point bulleted list (...)")
I am formally and kindly asking you to please try to refrain in the future from using the so called "majestic plural" as it could irritate other editors (like me, for example).

Happy New Year, thanks.
  M aurice   Carbonaro  12:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Haven't you heard of the editorial we? I can understand the annoyance, but it's generally accurate, that "we" (Wikipedians, and readers) do not need two-point bulleted lists. -- Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear Arthur Rubin (talk) I am starting to have the impression that you are selectively choosing to scold me in public highlighting the "cons" and ignoring the "pros". Yes, of course I have heard of the so called "editorial we". But it seems like you missed completely a particular "editorial we" that has been used to make personal attacks to me in the past. I've tried to strike out the personal attack and that has been reverted by McGeddon per "alleged WP:talko". I dropped the discussion just for the sake of peace... but havent' forgot it. Please let's try to have a nice and relaxed week-end. Cheers.   M aurice   Carbonaro  12:04, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
As Arthur Rubin helpfully said on my behalf here, yes, this was an editorial we, I was not saying "I personally do not need a two-point bulleted list". I'm not a great fan of the editorial we and generally try to avoid it myself, but sometimes write it without thinking. But I was not using it as a deliberate reminder of me reverting your WP:TALKO strikeout of another editor's editorial we from back in November, if this is your concern. If you're still worried about my interpretation of WP:TALKO two months later, I'd be happy to discuss it on my talk page. --McGeddon (talk) 12:39, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Good work fixing the article on Gia Milinovich.
--Tom Morris (talk) 15:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Your Amazon talk revert is invalid

I wasn't asking for a discussion, but for references for Amazon behavior that I had observed.

Be prepared to take this to arbitration, I won't let this drop. (talk) 15:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Reverted again and told the IP to post a simple request for reliable sources discussing Amazon reviews. Dougweller (talk) 15:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
And now discovered this is covered at controversies. Told the IP. Dougweller (talk) 15:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Good to see we're being more helpful to each other than Amazon reviewers! --McGeddon (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

RE: Polandball

original research, huh? Well, I need help. This website has a good definition of Polandball. In your criteria, is this website reliable as a source for information about Polandball in english Wikipedia? Do i have to dig more until find reliable information? Thanks. --Babelia (talk) 19:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate your answer. What about this website and this another one? (the sites are in polish, but the text could be translated into english using Google translator). In addition, what about this site? Prior to write information about Polandball in english Wikipedia, I want to make sure of using reliable sources (decreasing the risk of delete this information). Thanks and excuse the insistence. --Babelia (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

RE: Heliocentrism

I should have noted that I made a post on the talk page - I think that the section on "Views of the Public" is misleading, because it presents the results of quiz-like polls as reflecting "beliefs", when even the titles of the articles referred to state they are about "knowledge". As such, I really don't think it has any bearing on the subject - I am certain there are a number of scientific issues about which, if you asked the average person, they might have a 1/5 chance of giving you the wrong answer. But I am almost certain that if these people were told what the correct answer was, many many fewer would stick to the idea that the sun revolves around the earth. Kevin Corbett (talk) 12:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

deletion nomination of Template:User Sandbox Zns Smith

Hello McGeddon,

I have read what your worte. I am new to Wikie. And I do not understand all that you have said?

Please, if you can explain again? I was under the impression sandbox is for learning and making mistakes? Before I edit, I test on sandbox. Then I save on wiki. The text on sandbox is for working. I do not copy Sandbox text or formats to edit on wikie? Now I'm confused? OK, so what am I doing wrong? Why are you suggesting deletion of my sandbox? Then I should do what? Thank you. Zns Smith (talk) 20:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Yes, but you cannot give the page the first ridiculous name that comes into your head. You must give your page a name starting with User:Zns Smith/. You thoroughly deserved to have it deleted so count yourself lucky that I have moved it to User:Zns Smith/sandbox. — RHaworth (talk * contribs) 23:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


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Thanks for clarifying!

Okay, fair enough and I didn't head over to the fair trade page. The word spam did throw me a bit! Thanks and will go see if I can pull some of the research journo links I've read in the past to enhance that page! :) -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Shannonrtw (talkcontribs) 19:39, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

The "King Body" to "Kibo" evolution is definitely true. I was there. The phrasing to which you changed my edit is unnecessarily wishy-washy when people of good reputation can confirm it. Several people on the Connect conferencing system shortened their pseudonyms when a new feature allowing dynamic blurbs after names was constrained by the total length of name plus blurb. I was one of them, and Kibo was too. If you are really that put off by this statement of fact, at least make it stronger by accepting that it was "most likely" to be so. David Lawrence, ex-<> and <>, net.oldtimer Vttale (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Allow me to add related external links to articles

McGeddon, please allow me to add the external links to the article which are related! — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.K.Dan (talkcontribs) 17:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Removing relevant links to Articles

I realise that the purpose of Wikipedia is not a collection of links, it's about storing well kept, informed and reliable information. If you take the time to read the articles in question you will see that they are very relevant to the page, and are infact well thought out and intelligent pieces. The articles doesn't encourage anyone to bet and are simply describing the methodology behind the Gambler's Fallacy, Poisson Distribution and Arbitrage, which I think people may be interested in reading for a further analytical look at the subjects. Think they have very harshly been dismissed as spam when they do actually add value to the topics in question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forzajuve 27 (talkcontribs) 16:39, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

QR CODES removal of Link

Dear McGedden, Firstly the format of this page is somewhat confusing. The message I received asked me to leave a message in this section if I disagreed with your action to remove the link, yet there is absolutely no real guidelines regarding how to do this. Hardly a remedy. Anyway, yes I disagree with your action as without a true understanding of the evolution of QR codes it is a mute point to regard the link as inappropriate. The links both are samples that display Qrtists that are contributing to the evolution of the standard code. Where it is heading will in the future be attributed to artists such as these and does not serve the reader well without the information. I did expect some editing but not the blatant disregard of removing this without a question, this under minds the writers research. I suggest you replace the link or at the very least move to another section, however this is absolutely essential to the full evolution of the QR code.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hesed9 (talkcontribs) 23:49, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Internet Encyclopiedia

Hi.I am a new user of Wikipedia. I feel like editing and want to modify, reorgannize, add to some terms, for I think I could learn new knowledge from others and contribute mine. Thank you for your advice. I agree. Could you embody how to contribute constructively?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Assiduous kid (talkcontribs) 01:23, 1 February 2013‎

Thanks for help. Following your advice WP is clearer to me now. Thank you agian.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Assiduous kid (talkcontribs) 02:10, 4 February 2013‎

Minnesota Historical Society

I am a volunteer with the MHS. These images should be in the public domain. I would very much appreciate the help in setting this up correctly. Weberew (talk) 17:07, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

LEGO (Christiansen and Kristiansen)

Ole Kirk Kristiansen, is the correct spelling of his name.  Please look at:

Please e-mail the author and contact the person, which is listed on the link above mention. Lego will inform you the correct spelling of the person real family name. Which is on his birth certificate. I hope you can understand. I don't if you work for Lego or if you are AFOL (A fan of Lego), it would be helpful if you search information about it. Thank you. GoTLG (talk) 17:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback and whisperback don't want to work for non-user talkpages, but I left you a reply at Talk:Ole Kirk Christiansen. See what you think about it.--ɱ (talk) 22:20, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for copyediting Negative calorie food. :-) Sorry if I caused you any edit conflict while trying to fix my flawed prose. By the way, I merged Negative_calorie_beverage, thanks for proposing it. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

John(ny) Vyvyan

Hello, you disambiguated Johnny Vyvyan at Hancock's Half Hour - is that because you're intending to write an article about him? If not, I'll change it back, as the dab page links to info about him. Regards, Rothorpe (talk) 20:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. Yes, I hope you can do it, good luck. Rothorpe (talk) 22:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Salvo rules

Wondering why you eliminated Salvo variation rules from the Battleship game article. That variation of rules is historical, and some feel make an even more interesting game ruleset than more modern rulesets. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 10:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Center-right coalition

Hey, come on... that woz funny! :D I didn't mean to be cheeky... :O/   M aurice   Carbonaro  12:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


Re your edit to Construction, "article seems to use US spelling" is not a good rationale for a rvt, especially if you (wrongly) think that "organization" is a US and not British spelling - in fact it is the most common British English spelling also - see Oxford spelling. However this article does indeed use US spelling as far as I can see, as this version from 2004 shows. You need to check the oldest edits, and the talk page to see if the matter has been discussed. Many articles have improperly mixed Englishes, especially I have to say US English added on top of British. Johnbod (talk) 15:56, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Repeated reverting

I replied to your message : )

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about Softonic. Dear McGeddon, Today I was -almost- tricked into installing a special "download application" while trying to download Ubuntu. That's right: when you try to download Ubuntu from the Softonic website you get some .exe file you must first execute. This triggered my alarmbells, so just googling "Softonic scam" will give you all the references you could ever dream about. Since I consider wikipedia as one of the most valuable sources of information, I thought I might as well share this with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

February 2013

I fully agree with you about the emblem of the SOE. It needs more reliable sources. HLGallon did'nt even take the time to explain it gently (my apologises for my poor english). Rough guy, rough answer... --Madelgarius (talk) 23:03, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, my edits were not a test I was trying to update the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vidal101 (talkcontribs) 14:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi I don't mind if you delete or not the page you just told me is in danger of being deleted. I don't have time to make any improvements. NotoriousQRG — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Yahoo homepage.PNG)

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Streisand effect

Dear McGedden,

I'm surprised you deleted the infographic for the Streisand Effect, user:Circ translated it and, at his demand, I edit my original work for wikipedia in order for the user to have an easier access to the concept. I even had a graphical design barnstar for this infographic. If the problem is just the text, you can easily comment the work on the commons and I will edit it. I can suppress definition and examples too. But like I said, I'm surprised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desbenoit (talkcontribs) 16:57, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG jjj Joshuah700 (talk) 13:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Tom Cleverley

I had a message come up on my work machine about possible vandalism ( This concerned me so I asked our IT person to look into it. Apparently this specific address is our web hosting company so it is feasible that the vandalism could have come from a number of sources. As a result I would recommend that you extend the ban on this address indefintely. regards --Davidvaughanwells (talk) 13:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


I think that Findacadabra (, a free (and reliable) reference website used by magicians all over the world, shouldn't be removed from all the external links and from the footnote created by User:7&6=thirteen on August 1, 2011‎ ([2], [3], [4]). Maybe the website itself is not suitable for a dedicated article, but its importance for the magic community is unquestionable. --Utcumque (talk) 20:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


Hi McGeddon, I recently edited the Wikipedia page for Marmite, which you restored to its original version. I amended the copy as per request and approval from Unilever (Marmite's parent company). Could you please restore the version I amended? Thanks, Salma (talk) 11:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

NorCal Montage

Yeah I noticed it too. I would love to edit it out but I unforgettably don't have photo shop programming. --Pollack man34 (talk) 18:26, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Musical form of limerick poetry

Thanks for tidying up my contribution. I don't think can add any more, apart from more links to the 6/8 music. There's a lot out there, but not under my control. For anyone who sings and reads music, the connection between limericks and 6/8 time doesn't need stating. That's all I can say, except that I have a lot to learn about editing Wikipedia. Have a good day, Glasgow Stuart. I've now contacted the owner of my original music reference, Lisa, of She gave me her original public domain reference, so I've added it. I'll be grateful If you tidied it up as before. To keep the article musician friendly, I suggest you keep in the term rhythm as well a meter/metre (I'm in theUK).— Preceding unsigned comment added by GlasgowStuart (talkcontribs) 12:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Simon Rumley

Thanks for offer of help. It's the above mentioned page, if you would care to take a look. As for removing "stickers" I wasn't even aware it was alowed. Picknick99 (talk) 11:02, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

jelly babies etc

Hi McGeddon

Not quite sure what you mean re Kit e Kat. Adding a reference should not be viewed as self promotion. It is a legitimate reference to a book which contains a great deal of information about Kit Kat - thereby being a useful source of info. Certainly more bona fide than some of the stuff written about confectionery on Wikipedia, much of it received wisdom doomed to be recycled or stuff from he manufacture's PR department - none it remotely academic. I added a source book which was based on proper research Picknick99 (talk) 18:35, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Whilst I don't agree with your reasoning, I am happy to add my "reference" to Further Reading rather than References. It is not really self-promotion to add an worthy but out-of-print book as further reading for those interested in the subjects. Certainly less self promotional than some of the press references which are basically just PR releases given spurious credibility by being recycled in the mainstream press. Sadly, much of what passes for journalism today is just PR stuff, which begs the question of how seriously we should take a lot of references! Picknick99 (talk) 19:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Well I might dabble in such edits, if I had more time. To be honest, I don't give tuppence whether my books are mentioned or not. It is of no advantage whatsoever to me, commercial or egotistical. I merely thought I was helping but clearly have transgressed Wiki's arcane guidelines, often inconsistent from what I can see. And to be honest, I do believe that people may have used my book without true attribution, there are one or two things mentioned that are so obscure that it would be rather a coincidence if they hadn't been read first in my book. Hopefully I'll not be tempted to dabble in Marmite, of which I know a great deal!Picknick99 (talk) 19:49, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

thank you for your comments and help. not meaning to be argumentative, but I do like to get things as straight as I can. One more thing you may be able to help with. a early drafts of a couple of my articles were tagged as lacking references - but although I've since added some very good ones from university text books and other mainstream publications, the yellow sticker is still at the top of the page. How do I get rid of it? Picknick99 (talk) 20:23, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:The Mousetrap

Hello, McGeddon/Archive 8! I've started a discussion over at Talk:The Mousetrap over whether semi-protection is still necessary for the article. Knowing that you are a major contributor to the article, any feedback is welcomed. Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:51, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks

Many thanks for cleaning up my referencing on the article on Tesco. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Technical writing

You should destroyed my contribution WHILE I was editing it. How inappropriate. Are you insane?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhirschh (talkcontribs) 11:43, 9 April 2013‎

Changing the lead sentence of the article "Marketing".

Hi Mcgeddon, further to your action of turning down suggested lead sentence on the article "Marketing" on the basis of incorrect information is not enough information. Please let me know what was not correct in that sentence? I have started a talk on article as well and pasting here as well with my reasons.

"Changing lead to this sentence "Marketing is the process, in which buyers or sellers build awareness of their brand existence in the market as preferred choice." is more appropriate due to following reasons: 1. Lead sentence should mention about the "Market" before going onto marketing as it is sub-topic. This will help in making the concept clear about marketing. 2. Secondly, two parties are involved in the market BUYERS & SELLERS, these terminologies are more easy to comprehend unlike customer or client or potential customer etc. 3. Moreover, buyers also market their brand like OLX.COM and big companies do marketing for recruitment. 4. Furthermore, brand is the appropriate word as it engulfs product, service & company goodwill."

talk with Osmaantahir —Preceding undated comment added 11:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Barclays Cycle Hire

Hi McGeddon, I would put the case that the links are relevant to the page under these guidelines:

'Some acceptable links include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy.'

Particularly the phrase 'relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy'. Both these external links provide much relevant, accurate, content that is not suitable for inclusion in the main body of the article as it is far more detailed than the normal wikipedia page should be.

What do you think?MarkFSmith (talk) 08:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

The Wiki Order

Hello, I am Jesse96, please consider joining my wiki group - Order 96 (JB (talk) 12:48, 15 April 2013 (UTC)).

Copper Penis Owl

Thanks for the source of the Rézfaszú Bagoly. I didn't know that there is any monography or something about the Owl. I'm Hungarian, so it's a part of the folklore I live in, but I still didn't find any source of the Rézfaszú :-D But I realised that the names of the distinct creatures lacks the pronunciations with IPA. I think you couldn't delete the Rézfaszú's pronounciation what's more there should be given to the other beings too, cause the written words have no information about the real names of the monsters. Biragu (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Phillip M. Feldman

Hello McGeddon. It appears that you've deleted all but one of the external links for Boggle. What is the rationale for this change? You've pointed me to some material on conflict of interest, but I don't understand how there can be a conflict of interest here. The subject of the article is Boggle. I've added a link to the only online 4-by-4 Boogle that actually works. Please explain how this can be a conflict of interest. If I understand your criteria, it sounds as though I could have avoided the conflict of interest by editing the page in question anonymously, or by asking someone else to make the edit for me. It seems as though Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest guidelines need some serious rethinking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfeldman (talkcontribs) 17:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Law of Attraction

Hi McGeddon Got your note, thank you. You wiped out my edit that Jesus Christ taught Law of Attraction. I gave the cite, Matthew 11:24, and it is clearly about the power of manifesting one's desire through belief. What is your concern with it? I can understand if you disagree with it, or don't like it. But the language is the language and it is about the main article as set out in its first sentence; and it is sourced. Help me understand your point. Thank you. JustHeavenFun (talk) 17:57, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Also, please correct me on how I submitted this Talk note to you. It's my first and it appears I have not done it correctly. --JustHeavenFun (talk) 17:57, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

Actually, there's sources all over the internet giving confirmation now, just take a look. Corabal (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Greg Day (playwright)

Hi I was wondering if you would please help me and have a look at the Greg Day (playwright) article and give me your advice on how to remove it from the risk of deletion. I value advice and am happy to listen to more experienced editors, but I must say I find people like Qwerty make me feel pretty miserable and discouraged from contributing. Looking at his talk page, it seems I am not teh only one he has upset. He's entitled to hsi views of course, but Wikipedia does say that newcomers (like me) should be treated with a certain amount of tolerance and helped rather than have unfounded allegations levelled against them. Any advice warmly welcomed! Picknick99 (talk) 13:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Alcoholic beverage

File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg was removed by you in the alcoholic beverage with edit summary "cut health graph from lede and turn its caption into body text further down the article". I could not find it in the article. Why? You should add it. Please respond to my page. --David Hedlund (talk) 01:14, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


Have you read WP:GNL?? It says:

"Use gender-neutral language where this can be done with clarity and precision."

It makes no reference to chess as a situation this does not apply to. However, it appears that there's more consensus to say:

Either gender-neutral language or generic "he" is acceptable; please retain whichever one was used in the first non-stub version of an article to prevent edit wars.

Any thoughts on what WP:GNL should be?? Georgia guy (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Gender-specific references are acceptable when talking about individuals whose gender is known. Please read the sentence in WP:GNL and it will reveal a total of 4 kinds of situations gender-neutral language does not apply. read the sentence "This recommendation does not apply to..." Georgia guy (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

You wrote:

I agree that a clear gender-neutral wording would be even better, and if you want to write one, go for it.

I wish I could, but User:Ihardlythinkso, who is an absolute advocate of gender-generic "he" in chess, will likely revert me. Please keep in mind that Ihardlythinkso is a Wikipedian who is uncivil, but doesn't want people to know it (alternately, he can be described as someone who is uncivil, but pretends to be civil.) He talks back to me all the time. Georgia guy (talk) 15:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, User:McGeddon, I would just like to introduce myself. I am User:Georgia guy's official mentor on Wikipedia. If you have any concerns about this user's behaviour, please feel free to contact me at any time. I am always willing to go the extra mile in helping and rehabilitating troubled young Wikipedia users. Thank you, Roxette Fanatic (talk) 15:51, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

New question: do you think Roxette is the same Wikipedian as Ihardlythinkso only with a different user name?? (Have you had experience with statements like this before??) Georgia guy (talk) 16:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

That's an accusation and insult against my integrity and honesty, and I suggest you fucking stop it. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 03:15, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


Hi, I think your change of "their" to "his" in the lede is an improvement. The reason I didn't change it myself, is because I felt some slack could be allowed in the lede, especially to satisfy those editors interested in gender-neutral, as long as the body text clarified it and was definitive. (But "making compromises" re clarity in the lede - what I was willing to do - is probably not a good direction for encyclopedic article, so I think your idea is better. [The fact I was willing to bend on the lede should demo to gender-neutral advocates that I'm not POV-extreme on the matter.]) Sincere, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 19:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Computer trespass law

Hallo there McGeddon (talk),
regarding your revert to my edit in the "WarGames" article, could you please provide reference about the fact that the law wasn't operative before 1984?
And anyway wp:egg or not don't you think that a link to the Computer trespass article deserves to be mentioned in the See Also section of the "WarGames" article?
Because I remember pretty well the movie we are talking about wasn't forbidden to minors: nor in U.S. nor in Italy where I watched it.
It will be appreciated if you could provide reference about the fact that this law wasn't operative before 1984: how come that this is not mentioned in the Computer trespass article?
Last but not least if you are so keen in "double checking" my contributions ... could you please attempt to make a small effort in noticing also the "good things" that I do? I am not pretending a "barn star"... but IMHO I don't think that ongoing negative critics towards me could help in building a constructive relationship: actually I find it quite irritating. Thanks.
  M aurice   Carbonaro  08:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Two good references

Hi there again McGeddon (talk),
I noticed that you added the reference in the "Moon (movie)" article. Thanks. I still personally believe that shouldn't be the correct translation but I will drop it here because of wp:or implications.

Anyway I honestly couldn't find "This reference" you are citing on my talk page answering my last comment. The reference is GREAT but... is it in the article or what? I have performed a search for "" in the article source but couldn't find anything at all. We are talking of the "WarGames" article... right?
  M aurice   Carbonaro  08:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC) McGeddon (talk)

Ok thanks a lot: the article was "computer trespass". So, yeah, please... as I said before... in the future please try to behave more like a human being rather than some Turing test software. You got the brains for sure: IMHO maybe you should concentrate on being more human and personal but... not too wp:personal. Cheers.   M aurice   Carbonaro  09:14, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I wrote to wp:ArbCom complaining about that block and I am taking a rain check in order to take it to wp:ani ASAP. If you go through my talk pages you can notice yourself that an admin has been much more abusive and insulting than what allegedly I have been. Someone could think wp:npa apply mainly to users and not to sysops. What I find really upsetting is that I am generally noticing that "the comment on the content and not the contributor" seems to focus mainly in "commenting negatively" on the contents and seldom "commenting constructively". Someone makes 10.000 constructive edits and then sc**ws up a couple and there you go you have dozens of users and admins coming out of the blue publicly scolding you without even attempting to write you a private internal mail. Yep, I find that the WP:DGAF essay is much more real than "humorous" like it's portrayed.   M aurice   Carbonaro 

Screwed that one up.

Guess i didn't click right but the version you just restored was the one I was going to. Sorry for wasted effort. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

David Icke

hi. <-- Take youur pick from any of the gems right over there. The who and what in question, really is "reptillians", which Mr. Icke has indeed described as inter-dimensional in nature. He's openly accused Zecharia Sitchin of being a "reptillian" himself, as seen in In David Icke's own 1999 documentary "Revelations of a Mother Goddess. You can't make this stuff up.

I'm a firm believer of "calling a cat a cat" as the saying goes. The edit was valid, though "inter-dimensional space lizards" probably is not the term Mr. Icke himself would use.


I take that back, upon further investigation, "inter-dimensional space lizards" isn't too far off from Icke's own description, seen here:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC) 


Hello! You don't know anything about fluxus if you think these new notice were promotional. You are really fast like every person who don't want to know.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 10:29, 2 May 2013‎

Ok, I understand, but only if you think that fluxus WAS a movement, instead it is a movement and Pregoni worked also with: Dick Higgins, Larry Miller,Ben Patterson, Daniel Spoerri. So he is the only nose/artist in the world and he has made the first wikifluxus, all what I wrote has journal documents. But I repeat, ik you think about fluxus like something of the past you are right. don't you think is important wikifluxus for wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't know if Pregoni is as important as other fluxus artist, but he is a fluxus artist. So you are welcome! Great day. And a fluxus smile to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:01, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Jimmy Carr

No worries. (talk) 14:33, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


...yes, sorry, the moment I watched the article, it was still in a different state. Lectonar (talk) 14:29, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Pot Noodle

The ASA has full transparency, so the 'result' of any complaints will be posted on their website once its in. As that blog is dated this month, and its a new promotion, I wouldnt expect to see anything at all until mid-June. But its unlikely to be worthy of inclusion anyway. The other complaints tend to be from sources like the BBC, as the ad campaigns caused quite a fuss. The current one? Barely a ripple. Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

RE: Articles for deletion/Uinvest

Hi McGeddon,

I appreciate if you take a look at my talk page, where I tried to explain my position. since no matter what i might say in debate page it will be more likely get deleted.

Thanks.NSM RU (talk) 23:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Simon Rumley images

Well I uploaded the images following the link on the left hand side and I also emailed the relevant permission/copyright waiver (from the subject of the photo who also has the copyright) to permissions department at Wkipedia. To be honest. I find teh whole image uploading business quite baffling. I understand the copyright situation well enough, but it's unclear who the permission shoudl be sent to and is this done simultaneous to the uploading teh the image. Clear as mud unfortunately. Grateful for any help or advice. Picknick99 (talk) 22:52, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Kevin Howarth

Hi, you're probably right about the Minnie Driver reference! Maybe you can advise me on best references to cite? My own feelings, top be honest, is that the acknoedged existence of a book or film etc should be regarded as a referenc ein itsef. Why ask for a third-party endorsement that Clint Eastwood is a film star when the evidence of him being a film star is plain enough> It makes little sense to me to be honest. BTW, still can't make head nor tail of the image procedure - why does Wiki have to be so "user-unfriendly". Haven't they heard of 'Plain English'? Picknick99 (talk) 13:28, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean re Jaguar. Other people seem to have been editing besides me. Who put ion the stuff aboit his grandmother - not me! Picknick99 (talk) 13:04, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I might have done then, I don't remember. The bio bit about Jaguar is freely available at his publicist's website. By the way, any clues to the whereabouts of Simon Rumley's photo which I emailed to permissions? I can't make head nor tail of the uploading procedure, it seems to be what they call 'counter-intutive'. Please help— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Acknowledged source. A couple of things you may be able to help with. First, do you know anything abouit Google Knowledge Graphs? It is still coming up with wrong info - i.e a extract and link to the original K.H (disc jockey) Wiki page and not the text from the present K.H page. I've reported it but as yet no response . Secondly, my Evelyn Berckman page - she is something of an enigma and sources hard to find, but she is deomstrably worthy of inclusion jow can I overcome the hurdle of scarce citations? All her books are out of print and I'm not eveb sure who her publishers are. It's a challenge, but I am determined to honour her memory with a well overdue Wiki article. Any suggestion? Picknick99 (talk) 15:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry - I don't know how to do that - although maybe I have GUESSED right by putting it here. Another example of Wikipedia's mess of regulations. As a professional and published writer I find Wikipedia one of the worst messes of mangled jargon-heavy politically English I have ever encountered - and the internet already has plebty of those. Does no one have any control, can no one speak out and say what has to be said - "please speak the Queen's English and not Internet English." One does wonder how many good minds have been driven away from Wikipedia by its autistic mindset. Picknick99 (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

It's ok. Just delete it. Life is too short really Picknick99 (talk) 13:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Bruce Lipton

Hello McGeddon,

Thanks for the reply. Taking into account your comments and Wiki rules I wondered if it would be OK to link to reviews of products sold on an an external link, in this case Official web site for Bruce Lipton. I think that you will agree that an Encyclopedia should not be used as a sales vehicle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtf1962 (talkcontribs) 17:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


The point that I was making is that the link to Lipton's own site is a commercial link, this could be construed as advertising. I would assume therefore that it must be acceptable to link to reviews, for example on Amazon, on specific products being sold on the Lipton site. Either that, or remove the link to Lipton's site on the basis that its purpose is to sell products rather than provide information.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtf1962 (talkcontribs) 20:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtf1962 (talkcontribs) 20:31, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

problem with Areaseven

it seems like what ever i try to do on the nerf blaster article gets reverted by Areaseven for a complete lack of knowledge by him/her. I have left a message and that even got removed by the user. all i am trying to do is clean up inaccurate information and reorganize the article. If possible could you talk to Areaseven for me? I do not know why he/she is being difficult to communicate with.Nerfmaster8 (talk) 02:32, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see you've resorted to 1) falsely accusing me of having a complete lack of knowledge; and 2) asking someone else to talk to me. FYI, I reverted your posts on my talk page because I simply have nothing to say to you about your personal issue with me. So for your own sake, let it go. - Areaseven (talk) 02:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
your recent reverts show your true colors of not knowing recent announcements that justify those edits. if you knew that information then those reverts would not have happened. wish to explain the reverts?Nerfmaster8 (talk) 17:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Take it to each other's talk pages, or that of the article, please. --McGeddon (talk) 17:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

the toys r us statement was from an interview by mylastdart and Hasbro's engineers.

i tried to leave the user a message, those were reverted and i think if i left a message on the talk page that would also get reverted based on this user's actions so far. not sure if this user is a bot account.Nerfmaster8 (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads up. Nothing subversive was intended. Just highlighting some bits and some spelling. Thanks SH 19:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

re:Saving content

Yes i know how the history works as i have had experience with wikia. the only problem is that i wanted the entire list of previous models so it was easier to revert copy and undo the change. though the links to the n-strike, vortex and dart tag articles should be re linked to the Nerf blaster article? thanks for your help on diffusing the situation with areaseven earlier, i appreciate your help.Nerfmaster8 (talk) 16:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

i will do that from now on, thanks for the information. Nerfmaster8 (talk) 16:32, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Your POV on lead images

I quote from the start of guidance on use of lead images (WP:LEADIMAGE): 'It is very common to use an appropriate representative image for the lead to an article'. WP is full of bullies claiming that guidance is a 'rule'. In this case, there is a description of common practice that is far from being mandatory and is often varied. It therefore seems that your insistence on making changes to The Fox and the Grapes is a case of POV, at the very least. Please explain why you, as an ordinary editor like the rest of us, take it upon yourself to make these changes when you could be spending the time creatively instead. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 18:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

"water gun"

This is not Nerf/Hasbro's marketing rather its terminology that most people in the dart blaster community uses to convey that dart blasters are not dangerous and that these can be continued to be created without incident. this applies to dart, disc and water blasters. it may to the reader to have water 'gun' be clearer but its more appropriate to not associate these toys with firearms. these are not legally categorized as firearms/guns unlike airsoft or paintball.

another thing that i want to note is that these Nerf related articles were created by fans in the community not by outsiders. these were more for the hobby than the company that's why the lists of products are here. since wikipedia allowed these articles when they were created, its probably best to allow the community rather than outsiders to watch over the article.Nerfmaster8 (talk) 16:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

"its probably best to allow the community rather than outsiders to watch over the article" while its true that its more constructive to have both fans and outsiders watch over, this was originally started by fans and was more for the benefit of fans as noted by nerfmonkey on the Nerf article talk page. Nerfmaster8 (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

"jargon", you said to not use jargon and i do want to clarify that there is a large difference between a gun (firearm) and a blaster (toy). i changed the wording on other Nerf related articles and other contributors accepted the change as it is more appropriate for a toy brand.

i'm not sure there would be a balance point or a purpose of fans editing the Nerf article if those other articles are deleted and merged with the general article. Nerfmaster8 (talk) 14:20, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

April Fools Day

(afraid all three of those sources are copies of earlier versions of this very article, and are clearly credited as such) So? They contain the countries and are all valid. What is your problem? Explain please. You are new here and that may be the problem. I don't want to start argument and would appreciate you putting it back as it was with the countries and cites. If you don't know how, tell me and I'll do it. Thank you. Kennvido (talk) 17:20, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Jimmy Carr

As a complete novice to Wikipedia, I edited the personal details about Jimmy Carr's school in good faith and it was not an act of vandalism as you have implied. His school was previously listed as St. Bernard's Catholic Grammar School and as I mentioned in the 'reason for editing' notes, this school was an all-girls school until 1989. I know this because I attended the school at this time. My brothers attended Burnham Grammar school and to my knowledge Jimmy Carr was there at this time. It concerns me that you have changed his school now to Farnham Common School and deleted Burnham Grammar School altogether. Farnham Common School appears to be an infant/junior school and it is possible he attended here but only until the age of 12. To my knowledge he attended Burnham Grammar School and this is also cited on Burnham Grammar's own Wiki page. I trust that you will look into this matter and correct accordingly. I have no further interest in editing on Wikipedia. I just happened to notice the mistake and thought I would correct. Apologies if I have crossed your rules and regulations.Smiffy31 (talk) 09:21, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Smiffy31

Thanks for your response. I have found an article in the Independent 18th Nov 2008, which states that Jimmy Carr attended Burnham Grammar School. Smiffy31 (talk) 10:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Smiffy31

Thanks, I have added Burnham Grammar School to the page. I would appreciate you checking that it has been formatted as a reference correctly.Smiffy31 (talk) 11:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Smiffy31

Appreciate your helpSmiffy31 (talk) 11:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Smiffy31

Social media measurement

Your edit was not appropriate , please visit the link and verify its not spam , the social media monitoring services are provided by this leading company — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inux devil (talkcontribs) 09:31, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: that (mumble mumble) Cumberbatch "spoiler"

(Funniest edit summary I have read in ages btw) Another reason I reverted the previous spoiler removal was I thought every item should be treated evenly/equally - all the other roles listed in the lede mention the character's name not just their use in the plot mechanics. Shearonink (talk) 12:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Does the Slinky work anymore, yes or no ?

Hello McGeddon

I am writing the story of the Slinky on my web site devoted to accidental discoveries ( made by serendipity) :

To be complete, I have buy the best Slinky I could find (©2006 Poof-Slinky, Plymouth) and I test it. IT DON'T WALK, IT DON'T GO DOWNSTAIRS.

I have been, to have a look, on Amazon. The customer reviews confirm it.

My model is 5,5 cm x diam. 6,8 cm

The model which was (or is always) exposed in the MOMA was given as 2 3/8 x diam. 2 7/8 i.e. 6 cm x diam. 7,3 cm.

It is not very much but it can explain the trouble.

How can we write in the article that the Slinky sold to-day by Amazon and, I think, Toys R' Us don't work anymore, which is a fact you can verify very easely ?

Thanks for your help.--Jean-Louis Swiners (talk) 16:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear McGeddon,
I confirm my point of view. I have seen the issue with the french distributor (Buki France). He admits that the quality of the steel is not so good than before and told me he has discontinued importation, selling only the Slinkies he has in stock.
He give me a trick. Extend it before use. I have done it, to maximum. The Slinky works a little bit better. but with no comparison with the real emblematic Slinky. See :
Buki France and myself we have mailed to Poof-Slinky USA. No answer.
Could you see the problem, so I can include some conclusions in the french Wikipédia ? I thank you very much in advance --Jean-Louis Swiners (talk) 04:05, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Max Scott falsely accused of being mistaken

Look man, this website is not all that reliable anyways because, well, it's edited by a bunch of freaking teenagers. Warwick Davis did not play Yoda walking. It was CGI. I went through and watched Star Wars the phantom menace at home (I have it on DVD and VHS) twice, and I have come to the conclusion that it is obvious CGI. Look, that CGI in that movie was not the best, and it seems pretty obvious that it was CGI.Besides, the Yoda in the phantom menace was not the right body shape or height to be Warwick Davis, and the way he walked was not the same. Also, other sites have other stories than what you have told. I understand that you have most likely come to that conclusion yourself, and I do that all of the time. But I have Aspergers, and a symptom of that is that I am very analytical. That means I look at more of the evidence than most people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noblesvillestudentvl (talkcontribs) 00:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


I am reverting their edit because they are promoting their personal view, while I am putting a fact. See,_not_truth For me their arbitary removing a fact supported by multiple referance constitute cencorship which is against wikipedia policy. i got a feeling that wikipedia is now be used for product endorsement, hiding anything negetif by My edit is supported by fact and should no be removed as per Wikipedia policy. It can be edited or move to other section. Yosri (talk) 11:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

A sysop is just a normal user with additional responsibility. They do not dictate policy, only implement one. Removing a verifiably fact mean that they are not complying with the wikipedia policy. Yosri (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Education Technology

Education Technology is simple the use of technology in education , like the use of technology in all other fields are making things better and efficient. Medical Technology is use of Technology in Medical Science. Education technology is the use of technology in Education. Why complicate it by calling technology a "process and study". — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:24, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, McGeddon, re your remark. Does in your opinion, the Mr. Paravicini did not appear constructive either? Lotje (talk) 04:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Request for administrator assistance

I've recently opened an AfD on an article whose previous version (as well as that of a related article) were deleted due to some highly problematic sources, the article subjects posting inaccurate press releases which were taken at face value by Nigerian tech blogs and then quoted as fact in Wikipedia (with the press releases being, as I remember it, later rescinded en masse by the PR company). The articles fell to an uncontested PROD in April, but this means all discussion was lost. Would it be possible to restore Talk:LAGbook somewhere? --McGeddon (talk) 11:59, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

JohnCD already completed this request.--v/r - TP 14:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Dummy edits

Hi. Thanks very much for this in which you sorted out my stupid typo! Whoops/sorry/thanks. For the record, you might want to know that the advice you gave in your edit summary was only half-accurate: an extra space inline has the desired effect, but one at the end of the paragraph just gets chucked out. But the accurate half was great! :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:03, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Hmmmm - not for me they don't - I tested it, believe me, before I sent you that. (For obvious reasons it's a bit difficult to show you the diffs for the ones that failed!) Browser issue? Cosmic waves? Gremlins?? :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
... and in this edit I added a hyphen as shown, and a space at the end of the previous paragraph ending "close of the thirteenth century." Honest, guv! :) Best wishes DBaK (talk) 09:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
eeek splitting the conversation, sorry! But can you go to Embleton, Northumberland and add a single space, only, where I tried?? I am intrigued. Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:43, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

You marked me as spammer

Dear McGeddon,

I saw that you marked me as a spammer, and going through my history, I can see why you would think that. I am 53 year old neighbor of the guy who writes the Gentleman's Gazette and he knows his stuff. I am independant reader of anything related to classic men's clothing. Initially, I saw a lot of links by to his own website and thought they were useful. The articles about menswear always said that you needed more citations so I added links to one of my favorite blog. Mr. Schneider also created a fine page about morning dress that I linked to but it seems my efforts are not appreciated here.

Sorry if I caused any inconvenience.

Regards, SeverinSeverinp73 (talk) 19:57, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Welcome

Thanks McGeddon.

Would appreciate your input on Met talk page (controversies). Wikifrankicopter (talk) 21:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Do not pass Go...

Three sources "say about the term or concept," and not just use it:

  • Here "The phrase is printed on a card do not..." [5]
  • Here "as in do not pass go..."[6]
  • Here "as in do not pass go..."[7]

These three talk about the phrase don't they? I may be wrong. The phrase is very popular could you help with the article? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 16:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Sunset Sessions

Hey McGeddon, Im a little confused and don't understand why it is promotional? please explain? I am simply just trying to list awards we here at sunset sessions have given out to various artists and music promo people..?

Eking33 (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

That IP

Now at 3RR at 2 articles and warned. Dougweller (talk) 15:33, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Florence Green

I didn't replace the same tag - I changed from speedy deletion to prod. Your argument about a king is fairly specious, because a dead monarch usually has more notability than just being old. With Florence Green, the main claim is that she was the last surviving participant of WWI. That is actually uncited anyway, but doesn't in itself mean much. She did nothing else notable in her 110 years and 353 days. OK, she was a supercentenarian, but that shouldn't deserve more than one line in a list of same. John of Cromer (talk) mytime= Thu 11:13, wikitime= 10:13, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Removing a Commons category

The article Golden Buddha (statue) used to have a link to commons cat for this statue. You removed this link. Could you please explain your rationale for removing a link to Commons Category? How does this improve this article, or any article? Y-barton (talk) 04:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Flickr & the continued bias

Looks like we're back up to 5 paragraphs about the Flickr redesign "controversy," with the sole contributor once again citing only negative articles. It's clear he has a viewpoint and has now directly ignored your points several times. I have no intention of continuing to engage in a revert war, but would be happy to give my best attempt at writing a balanced article. I'm going to add *just one* reference to the NY Times, an actual mainstream publication, which was largely positive. Which, quite honestly, has been the response of more than 80% of the mainstream press. Posting the same on Compfreak7's page. Jakerome (talk) 06:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

How does one start the ANI process? I'm not really sure how the mechanics of Wikipedia works.Jakerome (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like WP:RFC is the right approach. And would prefer you initiate the process, since CA seems to have targeted myself in particular as someone not to be trusted. I'll add my perspective if appropriate once the process has started. Jakerome ([[User talk:Jakerome 16:02, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hallo, McGeddon....I'm trying to keep editors on the flickr topic informed of 'progress' should I best do that?Longshot1944 (talk) 11:31, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Borġ in-Nadur apparitions


I am a Maltese guy who happens to live 2 kms away from the apparitions. The Church did not officially dismiss the case as a sort of hoax. It just keeps silent about it without affirming but neither denying it. The newspaper article from 2007 to which you refer that ' the Archbishop of Malta has officially dismissed the case' was a one off situation in which the Archbishop had to counter the rising mass hysteria about the apparitions. To this day, the apparitions are still going on every Wednesday and Angelik still attracts a number of devotees. Can we ratify the wording ? Alan347 (talk) 16:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou for your contribution to the article. That seems more like it. I was the one who started the article and the photos are my own but then it got updated several times by different people. The current version seems quite fair. The stream of water has not yet appeared but if it happens, I will surely be the first to notice and take a photo of it. Both Fr Hayden and Fr. Gouder are official Church representatives. Fr. Hayden, a Franciscan was perhaps a bit too subjective about the apparitions and more keen to stick to what Angelic said. Fr. Gouder is a diocesan priest and commissioned to take over from Hayden as he is known for his objectivity and clear investigation. Time is passing by and the case keeps on happening. I've split the article between Angelic Caruana that covers aspects pertaining to him directly and Borġ in-Nadur apparitions regarding the site specifically. Thankyou Alan347 (talk) 12:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)


I seems unable to edit. Am I'm being block, and if it is, why. If I'm being block, do I need to take this to meta. Yosri (talk) 02:27, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. There seem some changes in edit process here (ENWIKI). Yosri (talk) 03:00, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Bubble gum

Hello McGeddon. I moved the article as you requested, but now the {{other uses}} template links to Bubblegum (disambiguation), i.e. with no space. I can't decide whether this is a problem or not! Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:03, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Help with continual flags

Hi I am just trying to get some clarity on 2 flags a page I was editing keeps getting. One is for not have a neutral view, I have read this up and down and all it states are facts, as in the date the event took place, the location and the artists who performed. The other is for main contributor having a special interest in it. I am not sure where they info came from or how to clear it up. Can you help? We have been trying to get this page up for years and it is continually flagged and or removed no matter what someone does. Thank you!

Kristilee1003kristi (talk) 09:06, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

"Source does not support the sentence, does not use the word "troll" outside of editor's comment"

But that was the whole point: a retrospective to Internet trolling, over a decade before the word was even coined. --Stevan Harnad 20:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

Information icon Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to to articles edited by you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Ahecht (TALK
) 14:31, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Oops, looks like you did warn. My mistake. --Ahecht (TALK
) 14:33, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

No worries. --McGeddon (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Borġ in-Nadur apparitions 2

Hi McGeddon, it looks like it will be fine to move Borġ in-Nadur apparitions to Angelik Caruana as you requested. If I carry out the move, will you see to any necessary rewriting? Since the article will be about a person instead of an event, it will need somewhat of an overhaul. --BDD (talk) 21:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Crowd Valley notability

Hi McGeddon, I am with Crowd Valley. I was reading WP:COMPANY to understand what we need. It's entirely possible we don't qualify (yet), and I'm OK with that, but the guidelines did seem a little vague. So we have an interview in Italian Wired. "A single independent source is almost never sufficient for demonstrating the notability of an organization." I gather you don't give small blogs much weight, and while I agree with that in principle, in practice where do you draw the line? I've seen similar organizations (e.g. InvestedIn) with little more than a single non-blog mention (the article gives all of 4 lines to InvestedIn). So I'd appreciate any clarification you can provide. Thanks! Mdavies2001 (talk) 00:11, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for the intro! I've been using Wikipedia for years and finally decided to sign up and help out. See you around! MrScorch6200 (talk) 19:16, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Please do not edit my comments on article talk page

If you think I violated any rules, please ask an advice from an administrator. I am telling this because my response on the article talk page [8] is completely consistent with the existing guidelines. Thanks, My very best wishes (talk) 22:03, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Dartball board diagram.png listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Dartball board diagram.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:18, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


I agree it's not clear but seeing as he didn't seem to progress to higher education, it's the next best thing IMO. The Madras (talk) 10:43, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps, or it could simply be where the person was educated - agreed it's not clear. Perhaps it may be best to leave the field blank? The Madras (talk) 11:03, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Partly, I'll bring it up in the talk page you mentioned. The Madras (talk) 11:09, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013 - Nature Reserve

I think its odd that the links for Brazil are accepted but not the links for SAN Parks? I have no affiliation to the parks and wanted to improve the article by adding a full list of reserves in the country and an external link, so its easy to find should any reader want to know more about the parks. TreeHazel (talk) 19:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting that caption in Astrology

Now that you have said it, it does look more Indian than far Eastern. I wasn't quite sure and without a direct link back I couldn't be more certain myself. Mangoe (talk) 12:51, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Shermer - PZ Myers

Thanks for clearing that up. (talk) 13:29, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

You seem to know better than I do what's acceptable, please look at Pharyngula (blog). Proxima Centauri (talk) 17:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Illegal edit

you are being warned for malpractice of edits .. in particular for editing out competitors on page

(cur | prev) 08:52, 12 August 2013‎ McGeddon (talk | contribs)‎ . . (11,714 bytes) (-534)‎ . . (→‎Competitors: cut unsourced/WP:LINKFARM) (undo) (cur | prev) 08:40, 12 August 2013‎ (talk)‎ . . (12,248 bytes) (+87)‎ . . (→‎Competitors: added (undo) (Tag: VisualEditor) (cur | prev) 07:29, 12 August 2013‎ (talk)‎ . . (12,161 bytes) (+464)‎ . . (→‎Competitors: added Contour ROAM+ and Contour ROAM2 Monoprice MHD and (undo) (Tag: VisualEditor)

please think about what you are doing

you may love GoPro and not want competitors to succeed - but competition creates better products ... and etc ...

please really think about your motives...

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I'm not sure English is your first language. Were you trying to say his edits were WP:POV or was that a legal warning Hell In A Bucket (talk) 15:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

reply: McGeddon please accept my apologizes if I made a false assumption ... I have done what you should have - that is edit them into a reference if that is so critical ... thank you...

mate insulting someone will only lead to a boost of your ego ... which leads to just a further confusion of one self and misleading your self and others ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

If you're talking to me that wasn't meant as an insult, I teach ESL so I wanted to make sure what you were saying was what you meant because it is a common problem of a secondary English speaker. It was a good faith question as to what could have been broadly construed legal threat. Sorry if it came across rudely, wasn't meant that way. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 15:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)