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PVBLC external link[edit]

Hey Mean as custard, No accolades, brickbats or threats here ;) First off, I do work for PVBLC and I can see why you'd think that linking to a MTB page on PVBLC is an inappropriate link, but honestly it isn't. In the guideline you sent me (yeah, I read it all) it says: "Some acceptable links include... meaningful, relevant content". Because PVBLC is like Wikipedia but for content (and it's also free) I think it definitely follows under the category of meaningful and relevant content. Since it isn't suitable for the article itself I added it as part of the external links.

Truthfully, I think PVBLC is like Wikipedia in its first days- it really will give an added value to people, teaching them more about the topics that interest them making content about it more accessible to them. It makes sense to me that PVBLC links will be allowed on Wiki.

Hope you think so too :) Contact me if you want to hear more... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle Friedman (talkcontribs) 13:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Classical Music[edit]

What is wrong with the external link to a comprehensive classical music website from the classical music wiki page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catpad2 (talkcontribs) 12:07, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


I think we disagree on the idea of "blatantly promotional material". However, that said, I will revise the content, and add content in sections. Additionally I will ensure all content added are in NPOV, and have sources that are unassociated with the company. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silvire (talkcontribs) 14:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

It wasn't all promotional, but enough was to make it unacceptable and to necessitate reverting all the changes. See WP:COI. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:48, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Mean as custard, understood. I've made some changes again, not as much as last time, but in two smaller batches. All sources have been fixed, and I've changed the voicing to provide a neutral voice, removing subjective descriptive terms. If there's any problems you see, please let me know so I will fix it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silvire (talkcontribs) 15:06, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Promotional Material[edit]

Hey Mean as custard, I updated our Wikipedia page Institute of Art and Ideas so that it featured the information from recent festivals and our new offerings, such as our podcast and free online courses. You flagged it as being too promotional - I've gone through and edited the language to remove some of this, so could you review or edit this amend? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bothansindisguise (talkcontribs) 16:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

A lot of it still reads like an advertisement, e.g. "Crunch brings together the world's leading artists, curators and critics to debate the questions that lie at the core of contemporary art". . . Also an excessive number of promotional external links embedded in the text. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:55, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

What should I do? I think you have found this content as promotional "Argan oil an organic product that is that much more valuable. So valuable is this product, that the Argan Forest is now a designated biosphere protected by UNESCO." I just need to know if this is not valuable why Unesco declare Argan oil as heritage. I have provided the link of Unesco offical web. Could you please reconsider this. I have put the useful info. --Mind9809 (talk) 12:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Your edit appeared reasonable at first glance but was calculated to conceal a spam link: "website=Buy Argan Oil At Wholesale Price From Morocco". . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

What need I do?[edit]

Mean as custard, I did not want to put information about new kernel to Comparison of real-time operating systems article at the second time. Just, I really need your help what should I do for adding a row to the table of real-time operating systems? There are many rows, and I do not know why my row is worse then other.

The problem is that your user name matches the name of the company you are trying to promote, so your conflict of interest is obvious. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

CookStove Edited[edit]

Removed external links within article and citations on cookstove page as advised by you. I am not promoting the product. I have seen it in operation and impressed with what it does and its enormous potential for the poor people and the environment. Hence wish to pass the important information through Wikipedia to all who are interested and can benefit from it. Please review the edit and advise. Thanks. Mohaneesh.honavar (talk) 09:34, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

It is too promotional and has no references to show notability. . . Mean as custard (talk) 10:29, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

promotional material added?[edit]

I see you like to remove promotional material. You edited the article Automatic watch one day, and now a user created a section that sounds too promotional. Perhaps you'd like to do something about it? Holy Goo (talk) 21:44, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with the edit. . . Mean as custard (talk) 22:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)


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Criteria based on which links are kept or removed[edit]

Hello, my name is Alex. I noticed you removed two ref links I have posted in relevant sections (white label and bookmakers) for related services - white label and sports betting software for bookmakers and gambling websites. I would be curious to learn more about the reasoning behind the deletion since both pages contain other ref links and cites to white label products and software, it appears they are still there. I see several other websites in similar niche markets are allowed to maintain their links. Also, any advice as to how one should proceed to add a relevant link and/or citation to a relevant, related section would be good, so that it doesn't get deleted. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexc89 (talkcontribs) 18:36, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

The links you added were purely promotional, they added nothing to the article. Agreed the articles already have plenty of similar links but that is no reason to add more. . . Mean as custard (talk) 19:02, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Adding promotional material?[edit]

Hi, you've recently edited the Datamatics Global Services page while removing some vital information. I've reverted to the older version itself as all the content displayed earlier was promptly supported by proper links to genuine and valid citation. Why would you edit something that is publicly available on all platforms? Isn't it what Wikipedia stands for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avanchak (talkcontribs) 11:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Because it contains material like "a global IT and business process outsourcing company, which focuses on helping their clients transform into a truly digital, data-driven enterprise and empowers them to take advantage of the digital revolution to innovate, differentiate and grow". . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, you've recently updated the unibind article with old information. I've corrected with more recent information, but you've put old information back again. Why? I would like to give an overview of what the Unibind company does these days and your information from 2010 is outdated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naegelseva (talkcontribs) 08:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

"What makes them the global leader in presentation systems of printed documents you wonder? Quality, user-friendliness and innovation" - spam, spam and spam. . . Mean as custard (talk) 10:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


CodeGround is an Online Testing Platform for Recruiters to screen candidates before the interview process. I am associated with CodeGround, although not as a paid employee. I created a wiki page for this website but it was removed. I would like to contest this because references were provided (i.e.) for every kind of online test that is supported by CodeGround, external links to sample tests were provided. Also, it was written in a neutral way (i.e.) I simply listed the kind of tests that were supported. I never said anything that cannot be substantiated like "CodeGround is the best" or "CodeGround is No 1" etc. I simply provided a laundry list of the kinds of tests supported with a link to a sample test as reference.

How can I go about creating this page? Perhaps you can look at the website: and create the page yourself based on what you think is fair and neutral? Or perhaps I can mention the set of features that are not supported as well, to keep it balanced?

Thanks. I am new to wiki, so apologize for any mistakes I have made. ShankarSathiamurthi ShankarSathiamurthi (talk) 17:39, 16 October 2016 (UTC)ShankarSathiamurthiShankarSathiamurthi (talk) 17:39, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

As I recall, the only references were to the codeground site. Independent references would be needed from other sources to show it is notable. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:25, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

7th april.[edit]

Can isk you why you removed international Beaver Day from the 7 april wikipedia page? I have a Good source and it's true. Please answer soonly Bver4ever (talk) 09:08, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Bver4ever: I am replying to you here and hope Mean as custard will not object. First, there is no such word as "soonly", which you should know. I assume you are not illiterate. Second, and far more important, all DOTY entries must have, as a minimal demonstration of notability, their own existing, standalone articles. Quis separabit? 13:17, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

You are mean as custard. 2607:FB90:4420:CD1C:0:1:5180:1F01 (talk) 21:15, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

southern research[edit]

hello, I updated sources on the southern research page and made edits. Wondering if it's possible to get rid of the maintenance box at the top and how this could be achieved? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigcommWiki (talkcontribs) 18:46, 16 November 2016 (UTC)


Can we move Din (Arabic) to Din as it just redirected to Din (disambiguation) which has its own article? After that move we can place other uses template on top of Din article which will point to Din (disambiguation). We can do same for Iman (concept) to Iman. If you agree. 000meow (talk) 13:00, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

  • Din is a common term in many contexts so should not be used for any single article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 13:30, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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List of Streaming Media Systems Edits Question[edit]

Brah why you stop my edits for custard man? Hello Mean as custard,

I’m new to Wikipedia and made approximately 5 contributions to the List of Streaming Media Systems page and you removed them all. Could you help me understand why?

You left the note of (revert unnotable) so I researched “notable” and found this Wikipedia:Notability - Stand-alone lists

Per the link it looks like my contributions would be fine. I look forward to hearing from you. MrTimArthur (talk) 20:04, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

  • The intro to the list stated "This is a list of streaming media systems with articles." The entries you added do not have their own articles, so I removed them. . . Mean as custard (talk) 21:33, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the quick reply. Would it be acceptable to edit the intro to the list so it read "This is a list of streaming media systems." Which would allow the list to be more complete. I look forward to hearing from you. MrTimArthur (talk) 20:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
    • The existence of an article is evidence of WP:Notability. Otherwise the list would get cluttered up with any old rubbish. . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:13, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of First World privilege for deletion[edit]

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Boachsoft Finance[edit]


On January 28th someone created an article for Boachsoft Finance. You proposed deletion that same day. Just an hour later, anon came along and deleted the AFD template. As far as I can tell the proposed deletion was never discussed. You may want to revisit it. --BrianCUA (talk) 16:43, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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Kadey-Krogen Yachts[edit]

Kadey-Krogen Yachts and (talk · contribs · WHOIS) are both located in Annapolis, MD. Coincidence? Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:55, 29 November 2016 (UTC)


May I discuss with you why you reverted my edit on the disam page Midge. If you have watched many episodes of The Simpsons as I have, you will notice that Moe Syzlak frequently uses this pet name for Marge Simpson. I think it should be included and I would rather ask you here before reverting your edit again because I would rather not start an edit war. Thanks NaturalAbundance (talk) 17:05, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

  • This is not mentioned in the article on Marge Simpson. If it was mentioned, with references to show the term is notable, it could be added. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:11, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thank you very much  :) :) NaturalAbundance (talk) 17:13, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Reverting my edits[edit]

Unfortunately, on the page Freedom_(disambiguation), you have reverted a constructive edit by me. " *In the game series of STALKER, there is a faction named "Freedom"." I will WP:AGF, and also assume you have made a mistake. Please don't count this as vandalism, as I only request help with the current situation I have been placed in. Facements (talk) 17:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Facements

    • Your edit did not link to any article, so was unnecessary. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
      • I am bad at adding links, and as an example, from the article, "Freedom", a song from the 25th anniversary reissue of Fireball by Deep Purple contains no links, and is still on the page. I suggest either removing that or accepting my edit. Thanks, Facements (talk) 17:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Facements.
@Facements: actually, "Freedom" by Deep Purple is fine. Because some people (as I have done in the past), look for the song on here, and it comes to the disambiguation page, which then leads the user to the article for the album, thus serving it's purpose. However, someone search for a faction in a video game would be better suited using, as Wikipedia is not a video game guide for all small minute details of video games. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 17:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I only wanted to help out people who didn't know the name of the game. I am not attempting to start transforming this into Also, on the disambiguation page for Sheen, I see the character Sheen Estevez, a character from Jimmy Neutron. What if I took every disambiguation page and added a reference to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Facements (talk) 23:04, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Facements

Looks like you removed some of my edits[edit]

I noticed that you removed the edits that I previously made. I have been doing research on product management and noticed that those pages didn't have inline citations or many resources. I was just adding resources as I found them, and maybe I'll get to an overhaul of the pages. But I was just wondering why you decided to remove my edits? I realize they are both from the same source, but that's where I was getting my information from, I am not affiliated with the company, and there was not previous information/citation there, so I don't see what the issue is. Amgisseman (talk) 21:19, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Spam links promoting an organization: "We have an unparalleled team of Product Management and Product Marketing thought leaders who work as your long-term strategic partner to strengthen your organization and your skills.". . . Mean as custard (talk) 23:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
  • From my point of view, it isn't a "spam link." I can see how that quote, taken off of their "About" page would come across that way, but that statement wasn't taken from the articles themselves, which to me did provide sufficient information to be cited in the articles. The paragraph I added about salary statistics was new information and was useful. I could even find other sources if that would help solve the problem of "spamming." The other information about product owners wasn't cited to begin with, and the article provided information to support the definition. I'll admit I haven't had the time to flush out the pages yet, but it's on my to-do list. I think that those articles are still good references. Additionally, those pages currently also cite blogs. You might as well delete the link to this page and this page if you veto the links I added because those blogs technically aren't reliable sources. I just want to make sure the pages get the proper citations. Would you be opposed to me using an online book from 280 Group as a reference for those pages to help get them cited, or would it be better to add as an external link? Thanks for your hard work to adhere to Wikipedia's policies and to make sure pages become the best they can be. Amgisseman (talk) 00:56, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
References pointing to commercial blogs are poor quality, especially as blog entries are often created purely so they can be cited on Wikipedia and so attract traffic to their host site. Much better would be a citation of a reputable printed book on the subject. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Reverting External Links to a useful book synopsis site, why?[edit]

Can I ask, why do you keep removing links to useful summaries of books posted on a 3rd party site - ? They are specific to a particular book and it is unique content not found elsewhere on the internet and clearly non-promotional. I'm familiar with the External Links policy and I don't see where/how this would be in contravention to that policy?

e.g. a selection of useful summaries of 1984, found here; - these are factual, non-opinionated, plot summaries of the book. Not book reviews, in case that is causing some confusion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by B1e1n1 (talkcontribs) 09:07, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The links were all added over the space of a few hours by at least three users, suggesting a co-ordinated campaign to promote this marginally-useful commercial website. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:44, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

It was coordinated, yes, but that in itself shouldn't be a problem? I can confirm, as curator of the site in question, that it is not a commercial site - it's not revenue generating. It is a community site where content generators can author detailed summaries (not opinionated reviews) about a given book. I honestly think it's a useful resource and provides additional detail on a given book. Our content creators (the community) devote a lot of time and effort to producing neutral, professional summaries. What do you think? Ben Logan (talk) 11:59, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Commendable I am sure, but If it is not a commercial site, why are there links on every review page to purchase the book at another site ? . . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:16, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Convenience only, they can easily be removed in favour of providing useful links wikipedia. It's not a referral scheme, if that is what you are implying? Are you happy for me to proceed on that basis? Ben Logan (talk) 13:59, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

No. You clearly have a major conflict of interest. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Most of the additions you removed were edited directly on wikipedia by community members from my site themselves, after they had posted a new synopsis of a given book. I'm not referring to the one or two that I added personally - I understand that is technically a COI. Ben Logan (talk) 16:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

A similar question - is this the reason why you removed the citation of from the page? The linked article addresses the appropriate point and is a tutor's account of how work is found, so is directly relevant. Thanks.

The article was hosted by a commercial website, and similar edits are often aimed at attracting traffic to such sites. . . Mean as custard (talk) 13:14, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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Private Security[edit]

Hi mean as custard,

we added an external source within the private security page which aligns with the external source, why would this be removed? I am new to wiki this was my first edit, feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks, Peter Anderson — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterAnderson1974 (talkcontribs) 18:16, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Read WP:SPAM. If you add the link again it will be placed on a blacklist so it cannot be added to any Wikipedia article or anywhere else that uses the Wikipedia spam blacklist. . . Mean as custard (talk) 19:47, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Flying Chalks page[edit]

Hi mean as custard,

Referring to your tag on the Flying Chalks page, it will be great if you could identify which parts of the article sound promotional. thanks!

Best, garytgy

Regarding Meridian Gaming Ltd page[edit]

Hello, Could you be so kind to explain why this happened 22:23, 20 December 2016‎ Mean as custard (talk | contribs)‎ . . (56 bytes) (+56)‎ . . (Mean as custard moved page Meridian Gaming Ltd to Metioche (disambiguation): revert hijacking) (thank), since Meridian Gaming Ltd is a software company and has nothing to do with Metioche. Could you reconsider your Speedy Deletion process and help me to improve my original article? When you changed, moved Meridian Gaming Ltd to Metioche, I was only trying to revert your change, and I think that some how triggered Speedy Deletion. Please help. Best Regards, alexdjix89 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexdjix89 (talkcontribs) 13:05, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

The article history has somehow disappeared, but when the Meridian Gaming Ltd was originally created it was based on the unrelated Metioche page and renamed. This bypassed the normal article review process. . . Mean as custard (talk) 13:09, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Infoempresa - deleted page[edit]

Good morning Mean as Custard, Infoempresa page has been deleted without leaving me time to reply with the following arguments which back the fact that Infoempresa is not unambiguously promotional, because it´s content is purely informational, based solely on the company´s business purpose and services. In this sense, several information sources have been included which portray the existence, acknowledgement and use of this service, coming from independent, objective sources (the media). Moreover, the content is purely information based and avoids all sorts of vocabulary and adjectives which appeals to the quality of the service or that of Infoempresa - being a neutral, unintentional language. It´s also worth noting that the service´s social media profiles have been removed to avoid confussion concerning the intentionality of this service, which is purely informational. Lastly, its worth noting that other sector peers have their page which in terms of content is virtually the same as that of Infoempresa, such as: Many thanks I would be grateful if you could provide some advice in order for the content to be sufficiently suitable. Although it´s already framed through neutral language angle.(Clara de las Heras (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clara de las Heras (talkcontribs) 11:13, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

The main problem was that the article had no references, just lots of embedded external links. A sure sign of a promotional piece. .Mean as custard (talk) 11:23, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Changed a dead link with equivalent material[edit]

Good day, I have found a dead link and changed it to a working one with equivalent (I believe) one. The article linked is purely informational with proper links to source blog. What's the reason to remove it? Antongorlin (talk) 10:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

It is a commercial blog by a company that would love to get a mention on the Instagram Wikipedia article. . .Mean as custard (talk) 10:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Frowned Upon If Improvements Are "Indiscriminate"?[edit]

Hi there. I'm doing an experiment to remove the word "that", which is frequently used unnecessarily. Removing it makes sentences more concise without changing their meaning. You said: "It may be that a few of your edits marginally improved the grammar, but your efforts are clearly indiscriminate and in most cases produced no improvement, so I have reverted them all."

Is concision not an improvement? And is it relevant if I edit indiscriminately? Removesthat (talk) 10:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

You are making the grammar worse more often than not. The word "that" is usually there for a good reason. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

How is "He was dismayed to discover that his granddaughter did not know what coal was." better than "He was dismayed to discover his granddaughter did not know what coal was."? These changes do not "make the grammar worse". You also didn't answer my question about whether making changes indiscriminately is a breach of policy. Removesthat (talk) 11:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

making changes indiscriminately is a breach of policy when most of the changes are pointless and disruptive. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I find that marginally clearer with that “that”, that I think makes it marginally less likely for someone to misread that as “He was dismayed to discover his granddaughter. And did not know what coal was.”. I think that writing “which” instead of “that” is probably usually ok, though (I don't mean that it should be mass-changed everywhere). But that's just my opinion, not sure what everyone else thinks about that. Κσυπ Cyp   12:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Can you source that? Also, why do we have 'minor edit' functionality if not for small changes? Feels like it was designed exactly for what I'm doing. I'd hardly call that "disruptive". Removesthat (talk) 11:25, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

The fact that I felt it necessary to revert your edits should be a clue. Removing the word "that" is sometimes an improvement, but often makes the sentence less clear or changes its meaning. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:32, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay now you're just trolling. You still haven't shown a single example where I made sentences less clear or changed their meaning. By your own admission it can "sometimes" be an improvement - so why did you 'indiscriminately' revert all of my edits? Isn't that exactly what you said was against policy? A policy you still haven't sourced by the way. Removesthat (talk) 11:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

What is wrong with my edit?[edit]

Looking at previous comments on here, you obviously police promotional material. I feel all my content is relevant and I have made sure it is factual and useful. The headset mentioned in innovative headsets is unique and worthy of mention. Please get back to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan.nuttall (talkcontribs) 22:22, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

It was unreferenced and appeared to promote one particular manufacturer. . . Mean as custard (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

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What should I do?[edit]

I think you have found this content as promotional "Argan oil an organic product that is that much more valuable. So valuable is this product, that the Argan Forest is now a designated biosphere protected by UNESCO." I just need to know if this is not valuable why Unesco declare Argan Forest as heritage. I have provided the link of Unesco offical web. Could you please reconsider this. --Mind9809 (talk) 13:23, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Your edit appeared reasonable at first glance but was calculated to conceal a spam link: "website=Buy Argan Oil At Wholesale Price From Morocco". . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

What If I re edit it again without citation to the web said to be spam? later on it will be tagged with Citation needed. How could I able to manage that? --Mind9809 (talk) 13:36, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Royal CorpTravel (company)[edit]

Sir, It is a big company as other company pages are here on wikipedia i.e. Yatra (company), ixigo, MakeMyTrip and Thousand of persons are taking service from the company and as on wikipedia pages of inhabitants are welcomed this page may be kept as it provides bonafide information. I am thankful as the other mentioned pages survive. This may be allowed. Moreover, this is not a promotion of any company.HariSinghw (talk) 15:27, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

There is only a single reference, which merely shows that the company exists, not that it is notable. It is not a question of promotion. . .Mean as custard (talk) 15:29, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

My edit of the Raid disambiguation page[edit]


why did you remove my edit of the Raid disambiguation page? I discussed my edits with Wikipedia user Materialscientist (see my Talk page) and changed it according to his instructions. AndiJN (talk) 14:06, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

There was no mention of the term "Raid" on the page it was directed to, so no point in including it in the disambiguation page. . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of {{Persondata}}[edit]

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I wish to add a new name , how do I do so?[edit]

The author I wish to add has books on both Amazon kindle and in book stores for sale. Also many of his plays have been performed on stage both in London and on the stage . Though a failed performer he makes a rather good living creating works for others to perform Mightyfine (talk) 13:07, 25 January 2017 (UTC)


Namely, why do you suggest there is "advertisement" in the article explaining about Financial_risk_management? I would like some valid explanation as of the reason you believe it "reads" like an advertisement. *Xyaena~* (talk) 15:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

This sort of promotional language: "FRM® join a network of professionals in more than 190 countries and territories worldwide, giving them a way to expand your professional opportunities throughout your career. Employers know that FRMs have the knowledge needed to anticipate and respond to critical issues, providing them with an edge in their career and professional development.". . .Mean as custard (talk) 15:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I could argue it could be vital (while being civil enough, though), if it was re-written instead of deleting the entire section. One part that may be advertisement doesn't mean the entire section is nothing but advertising... I noticed some parts of the section can be encyclopedic enough if re-written. *Xyaena~* (talk) 15:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Xyaena. FRM is an objective statement. This is described in the official curriculum. Like the CFA, the description of most certificates is the same. Compared to CFA, the contents are rather scanty. You need to check the CFA wikipedia ; --AnnaAenny U.S.A (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:03, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Now I modified the text in the same manner as CFA wiki. Goodnight, Mean as custard. --AnnaAenny U.S.A (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:27, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Reverted. It still reads like an advertisement. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC) --AnnaAenny U.S.A (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC) Isn't this advertising? Explain properly. --AnnaAenny U.S.A (talk)
The abuse of authority can be disputed --AnnaAenny U.S.A (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:57, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Excuse me. I think Mean as custard has a problem. He can be severely punished. His conduct will exasperate everyone. I took both FRM and CFA. These tests are mutually beneficial. They help each other and are the world's most widely publicized tests. I'm going to take action. Jose CFA FRM (talk) 10:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Removed again. Some of the worst promotional material had been removed, but the references did not support the grandiose claims made for the organisation. Find some genuine independent sources to verify the notability of FRM and it can be reinstated. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Links to journals and magazines not directly accessible via the web[edit]

Businessweek and Forbes did features on a subject I'm editing. The articles date from the late 1990's and are available as downloadable PDFs from the NYPL -- but only if you have a library card. This problem most have come up before -- what's the common practice of linking to them so they can be used as references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Perkins (talkcontribs) 17:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Your recent edits to the page Datamatics Global Services are unacceptable[edit]

Dear Mean as custard, It is highly disappointing to see and note that you after so much experience would revert to such theatricals which are demeaning and quite unacceptable. The material edited by me has been done after checking all the sites and reviewing the material from 10 different sites just to verify the content. The content has been properly referenced and followed up on with the latest content as well. I dont see where the problem lies and why would you even stoop to such lows? If any of my referenced material is faulty then do let me know. The references are highly adequate and no where have I said or stated something that is not true so why cant my content stay as is? I do appraise your other edits wholeheartedly and agree with most of your edits but sincerely my request do read through and do not stick to your earlier view of the page maybe can help us both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avanchak (talkcontribs) 11:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Note that I've blocked this user for advertising. Lalit Surajmal Kanodia also needs attention... SmartSE (talk) 12:13, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

What's Your Problem?[edit]

Why did you undo my edit without explanation? Do you know more about SP than I do? If so why not at least give a reason!

@Shogunofharlem: first, WP:DICK read it! Secondly, learn the guideline before editing so that you don't have these sorts of situations. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 20:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Nothing there to read. Makes no sense. Still no reason given. Why not be more helpful to new users?

Users typically are, that is when they are civil and don't come to someone's talk page and snap at them. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 20:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation and as per our other chat I apologise for the way this was phrased. However, this user twice reverted my update (first time no reason, second time incorrectly claiming spam). The update is perfectly relevant and not spam in any way. I would like this user to justify why they think y update is not relevant before removing it again. Shogunofharlem (talk)

Actually Custard, I read the edit, it does seem to be valid. Care to chim in? (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 20:37, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
The link was to a promotional commercial website, not a reliable source. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2[edit]

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Guru Jambheshwar University of Science and Technology[edit]

You have reverted me on this article... This university is government university and the content therein cannot be used for promotion or advertising purposes..cause the admission is always through government entrance exams....but the text can make article look pleasing... please comment..Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 14:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC) Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 14:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Your changes consisted of very promotional language and no references. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:16, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding criterions for garlic press's quality[edit]

Hi, the article I referred to is not based on a particular product, but on general aspects about garlic presses. If needed I can remove the link at the bottom of the article sending to my product page. Will that be okay? Atproquality (talk) 09:29, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Atproquality — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atproquality (talkcontribs)

My only problem with your edits was the links to the mitba kitchenware site. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:31, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

It's a link to an article explains differences between garlic presses, without appraising a spesific brand. There is no link inside to any product, you can check: Please tell me if it's okay because I think it's important to share this information and I don't think it's right to write all this content in the Wikipedia page.

It's a link to the website of a company that sells kitchenware. See WP:SPAM. . . .Mean as custard (talk) 21:50, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Will it be okay if the article will be in a non-branded blog? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:42, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:16, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Alright, please have a look on my additions to garlic press and garlic. Thank you. . . atproquality —Preceding undated comment added 14:43, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

I now suspect that you wrote the published blog yourself, which is makes it unacceptable as a reference. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:47, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I wrote the article and sent it first to my friend who has a kitchenware blog in his company's website, and after you said it can't be placed in a branded website I created a new blog for it. It is an important content and if you prefer that I'll place it straight in the wikipedia page than I will but please give a solution. ... atproquality

Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_sources. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:05, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Undo Edits[edit]

Just stop it now. I am only trying to help by adding the definitions of it.Robloxcraft999 (talk) 18:15, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Your edit was superfluous and inaccurate and messed up the formatting. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Content that is written like an advertisement[edit]

Hi, you've recently flagged the Louis_XIII_(cognac) as being too promotional - Could you please indicate me the quotes from the article that are too commercial? Balistikart (talk) 18:00, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

The overall tone of the article is more what you would expect from a promotional piece than an encyclopaedia article: "Today, Baptiste Loiseau is setting aside the finest eaux-de-vie". . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback, when I wrote this article, I paid extra attention to the overall tone in order to stay neutral. Could you please indicate to me if replacing the sentence you highlighted by "Today, Baptiste Loiseau is setting aside the finest eaux-de-vie of the House." would make this article OK from your point of view? I want to ensure that we can find a solution in order to remove this flag. Please don't hesitate to provide me with all the quotes you consider as too promotional, this way I can rework them. Thanks for your help. Balistikart (talk) 09:17, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Mean as custard could you please do me a feedback? Balistikart (talk) 10:12, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

The article has been edited in order to be less promotional, can you please provide me with a feedback? Can you delete the flag? Balistikart (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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Notice of noticeboard discussion[edit]

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Lancaster University[edit]

Hi, you recently removed some content from Lancaster University about the new innovation campus. Could you explain on the talk page why you deleted this content? Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 12:42, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

It read more like a PR blurb than an encyclopedia article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3[edit]

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--Windsor Law - Stop Undoing Please-- Hello - we have gone through all of our content and removed all of the promotional-type language from it. Everything that is going up now should be pretty straightforward as facts of how Windsor Law operates. However you keep going through and reverting everything without apparently having even compared it to the original. I asked Drmies if you guys would review it first before we start doing the updates but this person said no. Exactly what are we supposed to do - the old content cannot stay there - it is entirely out of date. THank you. (talk) 16:27, 17 February 2017 (UTC)Annette

It wasn't me who reverted it, but I entirely agree with the reasons of the person who did - it was blatantly promotional. . . Mean as custard (talk) 19:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
University of Windsor Faculty of Law

PAJASA APARTMENTS deletion (Arpitset (talk) 09:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC))[edit]

Hi I am new to wikipedia and was working on service apartments. I added all details and found the leading Indian startup was missing in every page. Even the concept of extended stay was not cleared in Wikipedia, So i added and changed some of the pages. And i have added this page PAJASA Apartments , which i got deletion notice. Please dont delete that , Let me if I add more details.

You can check their details in Google just search "PAJASA Apartments".

Thanks | Arpit

The article has only one line of content. More is needed to show how it is notable. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:48, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Crime sections in town articles[edit]

Hello Mean as custard, firstly many thanks for your efforts to excise promotional material from articles, as you did with Ardara, County Donegal. Speaking of Donegal towns, there's another issue I see with Letterkenny: the Crime section. A lot of material (with sources) has been added there recently, but I'm not sure that any of it is encyclopedic or appropriate. The trouble with a section like this is that it attracts further additions and is already reading like tabloid journalism. Just wondering what your general thoughts might be on cleaning up such material. Thanks Declangi (talk) 02:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The Hive, Worcester (UK)

I understand that you are responsible for the "This page reads like an advertisement" comment on this page.

As the original author of the page back in April 2013 (though I have not contributed any of the later additions), I find this offensive comment childish and inaccurate.

I suggest you modify it to something a bit more Wiki-friendly! (talk) 07:48, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The phrase "This article contains content that is written like an advertisement" is standard Wikipedia language as defined in Template:Advert. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Power to Change Trust[edit]

I've re-read the page about Power to Change, which you've flagged for puffery. Not seeing what's not neutral in that page that needs changing. I'm struggling to see where there's subjective language to be changed, to be honest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantom Flan Flinger (talkcontribs) 10:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The mission statement is pure puffery, and contains no useful information: "At the heart of our vision and mission is the devolution of power to local communities. We want to support people to take action to address local challenges, enabling them to control vital assets and services that might otherwise disappear, or start new initiatives in response to local needs. Putting business in community hands – that makes places better.". . . Mean as custard (talk) 10:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Phantom Flan Flinger (talk) 17:19, 7 March 2017 (UTC)Yes, but that's their mission statement cited as a factual example of what they say they are created to achieve, not to endorse it as a piece of writing or to evaluate whether they are or not. You might think it's puffery and contains no useful information, which is, with respect, your view. If you were applying for funding from them, or working out whether you were the kind of organisation that might usefully think about applying for a grant, that statement tells you who they fund (local people addressing local challenges), why they fund those groups (people who make places better) and why they do this in the first place (community businesses make places better). You might not agree with that, but there is commissioned research underpinning it, available on their website. Like most organisations, mission statement are heavy on the declarative, but it's far from 'pure puffery'.


ta, didnt check the diff first - JarrahTree 12:47, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


Sorry but stop. I am making purposeful edits except for 1 time. I think you are purposefully tracking me and deleting my edits. Just STOP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiderman8604 (talkcontribs) 08:25, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

If and when you start making sensible edits I will stop reverting them. . . Mean as custard (talk)

An edit you made to this AFD[edit]

I just wanted to let you know that a revert you made to this AFD (the one that added back information removed by MohanishBorana) actually restored personally identifiable information that was added by another editor, and that MohanishBorana was repeatedly trying to remove in order to protect his/her privacy. You were obviously unaware of this; I just wanted to give you a heads up about it. I've taken care of everything and redacted the information out completely, so all is good now. In the future, I'd recommend taking a quick moment to review what you've restored (or at least take a glance at it) so that you might catch this sort of thing and report it to someone that can handle it - that's all. You're not in any trouble or anything... lol... it took me a bit to realize what was going on there and understand why the user was removing the same information repeatedly. I'm just messaging everyone involved to let them know. Thanks dude! Cheers :-D -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism is an inherent evil[edit]

Why so mean custard? P.S. thanks for your hard work with anti-vandalism, you've beaten me to it quite a few times Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 17:56, 17 March 2017 (UTC)


A quick web search together with the info on Longest words suggests that this is real. As such, I was just about to redirect the article there. It probably ought to be just deleted, but I'm not sure it actually meets a CSD.... — Smjg (talk) 22:01, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Need your Guidance![edit]

Hello Mean as Custard, i apologize for reposing my edits over and over for Al khalidi Hospital and Medical Center, i was not aware of your point of my post being "too promotional" until i went through the guidelines and figured out you are absolutely right. i will edit and change and try to keep it as objective as possible, and i hope it will be appropriate for publishing afterwards. thanks for your guidance.--Eman Ibrawish (talk) 07:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Why did you delete all of the changes I made?[edit]

I had spent a lot of time updating the ABRAMS Books wiki page and you deleted all of my changes with invalid and incorrect information. None of what you added is correct it is completely outdated information. I request that you reinstate the changes I had made, since the changes you have made are so far off base and wrong. Cblank84 (talk) 11:29, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Your changes were far too promotional. See WP:SPAM. You clearly have a conflict of interest. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:44, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

I didn't realise that describing what an organisation does is classed as advertising?[edit]

Could you please explain how describing what a charity does and providing a little history to it is classed as advertising? Some examples of where I have used promotional writing techniques would be greatly appreciated. Tomthebaker (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

It began with the first sentence and continued in similar vein: "inspires, unites and empowers communities". . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Would you like me to reword their mission statement? Not trying to be rude, just confused. Tomthebaker (talk) 17:06, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

There is some guidance on this page: Wikipedia:Avoid mission statements. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:43, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the help Tomthebaker (talk) 18:44, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Can you explain me how the grammar became worst or skewed the meaning?[edit]


Can you explain me how just 2-3 punctuation changes made grammar worst or skewed the meaning? I mean it sounds illogical to me. Please explain.

The fact that you are querying this shows that you are not qualified to make such changes. For instance, changing "Major representatives of this field were two scholars and clerics" to "The major representatives of this field were two scholars and clerics" changes the meaning. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Jeffdnfg (talk) 19:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)== Promotional Material ==

Good afternoon Mean as custard,

Trying to wrap my head around how my edits are deemed promotional? The previous article is almost 10 years dated. Does Wiki not encourage users to edit material unfit instead of reverting back entirely to decade old information?

There was some potentially usable material in your edits, but the large amount of promotional content (such as "opened to incredible fanfare"), and huge indiscriminate lists of awards, meant it all had to be reverted. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

So adding a list of accepted awards, although factual, is promotional in nature? Thanks for you feedbackJeffdnfg (talk) 19:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Blatlantly promotional[edit]

Hello mean as custard, I will review this page and make sure that any promotional sounded material or wording is removed. I will also add as many external links to the company ass possible I am a strong believer in communication, guidance and collaboration and was a bit surprised that instead of sending me a warning the page was simply removed. I am in the process of editing the profile of a company for which the wikipedia page was outdated to the point of providining misleading info. I will start again and will endeavour to be neutral to the extreme and factual only.

Your feedback moving forward will be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FabriceLondon (talkcontribs) 08:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

What is promotional if there is a 3rd party reference?[edit]

Hello Mean as custard. I am new to Wikipedia and looking for guidance. I was surprised you deleted a large chunk of the page for Education Development Center without any warning or giving me a chance to reply and fix. Can you please offer guidance? An example is my including that EDC was selected by the Boston Globe as a top place to work and I included the Globe reference. You removed it as blatantly promotional yet here is the same language regarding a top place to work selection on a colleague org page: Why is one okay and the other not? I look forward to your assistance or referring me to a Wikipedia editor who can help. Thank you. Alisonbck (talk) 13:34, 27 March 2017 (UTC)alisonbck

No problem with that particular reference, but most of the material you added was highly promotional, with language like "Collaborating with both public and private partners, we provide strategic, cost-effective solutions that are responsive to the cultures, realities, and needs of the communities and consumers we work with. Our services include Design and Development, Evaluation, Implementation, Policy and Research". . . Mean as custard (talk) 13:50, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Removing Official Community Link from External Links section[edit]


I see you've undid the edit on the following page AdWords. The link I have added is of an official community moderated by Google for best practices on AdWords. Isn't this link, deserves a place in the official page? Can you guide on what scenario are we not highlighting this link, when it can able to provide User Generated Content?

Thanks in advance. Bshafiahamed (talk) 20:26, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

The only link I removed from the article was to a commercial SEO company. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[edit]

Brickbat what a brilliant word... What would be the best way to reference the Middle English pronunciation of Hatchet? There is no promotional material on that webpage. I was merely collating a list of citations and displaying the definition of the word. Not sure if you checked it out I have already setup a redirect for

I am sure a better reference is available. is just promoting a commercial organisation with no relevance to the subject of the article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:00, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Not sure why a reference to a good quality article (citation) was removed[edit]

I am wondering why the change was reversed to the previous one with a 'dead link' in it?

|url= |website=Esther Perel |access-date=2016-02-03 |language=en-US }}[permanent dead link]</ref>


It took me a while to find a good quality material. I found a 800+ words article written by an expert to replace the dead link. Is there any reason you had to reverse the change back?

It is very discouraging and confusing. There must be something else I am not aware of. Thank you.

The new reference did not support the material being cited. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I believe you did not read the entire article. But I digress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex A. Fox (talkcontribs) 19:03, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

why revert?[edit]

hi, why did you revert the addition i made to the page norton? i just add the norton (band) for the page i am creating. Joãolumo (talk) 14:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

If you had created the article first, and it had not been speedily deleted, then it could be added back to the Norton page. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:44, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

reverting my edits[edit]

Why exactly did you revert my edits on the Load bearing wall page The link that I placed was certainly linked to the article

Because the reference you added was at the very top of the article, and so did not verify any specific content. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:46, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
The link verified the definition of a load bearing wall.The next time you answer just remember to ping11:27, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
I am very sorry. I guess I really learned my lesson there. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:51, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


Hello. Why did you revert my supplement to disambiguation page? Here is more information about ERF. Don't feel I am welcome here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wandalen (talkcontribs) 18:02, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

It's nothing personal. It is only that each entry in a disambiguation page should link to a Wikipedia article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

So should I create the page first?

Yes. . .Mean as custard (talk) 18:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

I created Exponential response formula page. Please, let me know if any further improvement needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wandalen (talkcontribs) 19:27, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Masters of Harmony article[edit]

Hello -- we removed the "Mission Statement" section, which hopefully addresses your concern about this article appearing to be an advertisement. Please let us know if there are other issues that we need to resolve, and we will be happy to fix them as well. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfreedkin (talkcontribs) 16:57, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Cleaned up and advert tag removed. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:31, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

I have noticed that you at times do not use edit summaries even when the purpose of your edit seems unclear. Can you explain that please? Toveswuu hed (talk) 08:25, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

As you have never used a summary on any of your edits I don't see the point of your query. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:27, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors![edit]

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Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Promoting the Artists[edit]

Hi, We are showing appreciation to the good artists.

We are not doing this for each artist but only those who are the best in our opinion. We know that all links in Wikipedia are nofollow and carry no backlinking weighting.

I do not understand why you are removing them. It only helps in showing that an artist is of a certain calibre and featured in Top 20 of one of the most prestigious Persian Music portals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmctv (talkcontribs) 08:53, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Final spam warning sent. . .Mean as custard (talk) 09:01, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

I have stopped inserting links just now.

But I expect an answer on the above. Please let me know. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmctv (talkcontribs) 09:03, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Vienna International Airport[edit]

Hi, in section "CAR", removed my contribution for time needed from airport to city center. Questions about journey time is very often, that is why I think that should stay there. Yes, I added link as a reference, but you have another website link from another company, reference before (36). How they stay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:51, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. Both links were spam, so your competitor's link is now gone too. . .

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Why the relevant link was removed from the page?[edit]

Hello There, Hope you are doing good. Im new here. May I know why do you removed the link I gave in my page. Those link direct to the page that tells about the award, the actor received. Please let me know if I had made any mistake? It will be helpful for correcting in future.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nian at behindwoods (talkcontribs) 12:13, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Promotional. See WP:EL and WP:SPAM. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Behindwoods. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:07, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Thats not inappropriate link[edit]

The link I gave is not inappropriate. Thats the exact page that says about the award he got. How can you say that it is inappropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nian at behindwoods (talkcontribs) 07:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

It is inappropriate mainly because your user name shows you are associated with the site whose links you are adding, You need to find references to other independent sources or the awards may be removed as unnotable. . . Mean as custard (talk) 07:57, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Why are you repeatedly undoing my edit?[edit]

Why are you repeatedly undoing my edit in optical illusion ? The book I referred is an accredited book, and appreciated by many eminent psychologists. It is not a self published book, it has been published from reputed publication house also. Currently the topic is under process of publication in reputed international journal also. I think before undoing you should talk with other users also. Other users requested me to re-edit the page yesterday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winmedia (talkcontribs) 09:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Self-promotion is discouraged on Wikipedia. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

It is not self promotion, it is expressing the truth, which is authentic. It can be done by anybody. No matter when the artcle is verified and accredited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winmedia (talkcontribs) 09:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

No idea what that means, but promoting your own book is not allowed. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Why do you keep changing the CommScope page information?[edit]

The only information that is being changed is an update... Updated numbers and more recent information. I do not think the information is "blatantly promotional material". There are websites to support the information, which makes it factual. You keep reverting back to old information that needs to be updated. Why do you think the information added is promotional? If you don't like some of the writing that is different, but it is wrong to change numbers that are current and up-to-date with a source.I would like to edit the information to current numbers and information without it getting changed back. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinknailpolish1 (talkcontribs) 20:19, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Some of the material I reverted looked like this: "If you would like to learn more about CommScope's history and the development of their products, click here to view their timeline." - Is that not promotional? Feel free to update out-of-date factual content but leave out the pr-speak. . . Mean as custard (talk) 21:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

List of eating utensils[edit]

Hi, Mean as custard! :) I'd like to know if you have a good reason for reverting my recent edits on List of eating utensils. Sujeo is a set of spoon and chopsticks. --Tyynimeri (talk) 12:22, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

It is not an eating utensil, it is a set, like knife, fork and spoon. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:25, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
It is a set of eating utensils, just like cutlery which has been in the list for quite a long time! I'd also like to know the reason you removed spoon and chopstick rest from the "See also" section of chopstick rest article. Those are related articles. --Tyynimeri (talk) 12:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Stop removing the photo[edit]

Stop hand nuvola.svg I said that do not removed this one. If you do, put it in Administration test. Lucy Desi (talk) 23:23, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

I've no idea what you mean. . . Mean as custard (talk) 06:43, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Why remove my photo?[edit]

I explained in my message why the photo change is necessary. You claim my change is politically motivated, but the original post was politically motivated. My alteration was motivated by the preservation of historical truth. I hope you sympathise with this need to preserve the truth, and conservatism in this aspect is sticking your head in the sand. The original photo was offensive and racist and incorrect. You can Google photos of the original flag, and see that it looked nothing like the flag shown before the alteration. Thank you, MacRudraige. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacRudraige (talkcontribs) 09:33, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Why removed information about Wireless Emergency Stop?[edit]

The page kill switch is definitely missing information about wireless emergency stops. I've added those information, but you removed it within 1 minute. Can you explain why you did this?--Croptyq (talk) 14:15, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

It read like an advert for the company that was selling the things. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


How come my edits are being undone for Lynn Public Schools?

WP:SPAM. . . .Mean as custard (talk) 14:18, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

gift suite[edit]

Hi! Wiki novice here--Curious as to why a linked interview conducted by an online outlet is marked as spam, but press releases from an individual company (seen at bottom of page) are not? Would seem those are more skewed references than one conducted by a third party. Respect and thanks!Marketingwizard (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. Press releases removed. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:57, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Message from Marymount[edit]

Hi, We see you keep reverting to a very old, incomplete and inaccurate content. We are trying to update this. Could you please indicate more specifically what is 'promotional' so we can edit small sections of this and still keep the main content there and thus make this a useful and factually correct summary of the institution? You can email us at if easier. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdesplaces (talkcontribs) 07:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Content like this: "offers a comprehensive standards-based curriculum that is custom built to foster the learning and growth of its diverse student body." This sort of rubbish appears in large, not small sections. . . Mean as custard (talk) 07:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Country Trust[edit]

Hello Mean as custard. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Country Trust, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims significance. Also, after nine years another week at WP:AFD won't hurt (per WP:SILENCE). Thank you. SoWhy 12:14, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Why are you deleting my example pictures?[edit]

These are not spam -- these are not commercial solicitations. This is a legitimate example of a belt grinder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knifegrinder1 (talkcontribs) 17:37, 26 June 2017 (UTC)