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I have to agree with Dekisugi here. You are making changes to the DSDM article which leave the article worse off then before you edited. It has gone back and forth a while now. Where are you getting the content you're pasting in from? Semafore (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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DSDM Content - Response to message you left on my talk page.
I will preface this response by saying I'm reasomably new to wikipedia, and if you doubt any of the response below you should seek help from a more experienced wikipedia editor.
I agree that the DSDM article at the moment has much room for improvement, and would like to see it improved. Please consider though that the purpose of the article is not to give a guide on the most recent version of DSDM - a good article would include information about the history of DSDM, how and why it has changed and developed, the differences between Atern and previous versions (which I assume are major). Also, you mentioned that the DSDM board is not happy with the current article. I'd encourage them to contribute to the article (they could no doubt provide a valuable contribution) but remind them that they do not have ownership of the article or power of veto with regards to content they are not happy with.
However we go about improving the article I think the changes that you made will always get undone quickly by other editors. I'll outline why I think this is the case and hopefully no one will see fit to revert anything you add in future:
- The content seemed copied verbatim from other sources: we can see this because the original html tags still litter the content, this seems to be generally frowned upon.
- A side effect of the point above - the formatting of the content was inconsistent with the other wikipedia articles. Lots of editors would see this as a problem, even if the content is better and even if they know next to nothing about the subject (anyone can edit the article, and if the current version looks significantly worse than the previous version I can guarantee someone will roll it back believing it is the right thing to do)
- It only covers DSDM Atern - you remove lots of content about previous versions of DSDM
How significant are the changes for DSDM Atern? If they were so extensive that it is as though the methodologies are related only by name, then perhaps it would be best to separate things out into two articles. If you really believe the changes you made are the best possible change for this article then my suggestion would be starting a new section on the talk page for the article (Talk:Dynamic_Systems_Development_Method) outlining why you think the current version is misleading or accurate, the changes you want to make and ask for peoples opinion. The sad truth is that you'll have to do it this way because, even if you're changes improve the article in every way - they will not persist unless you get consensus from other editors on the talk page. Semafore (talk) 13:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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