User talk:MfactDr

"Orma ((clan)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Orma ((clan) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 7#Orma ((clan) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Oromo language

May I ask why you did this? Previously you reverted someone else's edit that inserted the bad name, because you claimed that it is an insult, which I know to be correct. So I provided the context for that name, stating that it is pejorative and that it is therefore rejected by the Oromo community - and now you revert that edit to leave the name without any context? Have you changed your mind on that matter? Or do you not know the meaning of the word 'pejorative'? Well, have it your way... LandLing 14:36, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

• The term found in historical text written by opponent ethnic groups. they use terms targeting the Oromo people and language. Oromo was never created nor called itself in history. therefore can not be called formally such. it's pure hatred and favoring defamation in the headline. its knd of Ethnic slur used for the members of ethnicity or racial group in a derogatory, pejorative, or otherwise treated with insolence or insulting manner. for example, Naftenya targets Amhara, and Walamo targets Welayta people. if you are advocating defamation or smearing a name you should add it to every race page in Wikipedia. MfactDr (talk) 15:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

  This response makes assumptions about my motives, which is not called for. I will also not comment on your use of the word Naftenya when referring to Amharas - is that no ethnic slur? In any case: you need to understand the concepts of censoring encyclopaedic content, as opposed to diffamation, before you continue. Your move of the matter from the lead to an unrelated section much further down is not helpful, as all alternative names in all language articles in Wikipedia are treated in the lead. I sense that you are in edit-war mode again. It is best if you revert this yourself. LandLing 15:59, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

• you don't want to comment on Nafetnya. therefore you want to create an "alternative name" for the Oromo language right? your intention is clear. FYI: Readers who are interested in history, can able to read in the history section.MfactDr (talk) 16:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

This analogy is of little use. Can you provide us an instance where "Nafetnya" has made it into scholarly historical/contemporary English-language sources as an alternative name of Amhara? OTOH, take this:[1]. These sources were not written by people filled by "hatred" for the Oromos. –Austronesier (talk) 20:21, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I see now that you also reverted Equinox's edit. As I stated on the talk page, this is not an option, as the name is part of the public academic record. People who read academic literature about the Oromo language and people from the early 1900's will find them refered to only under that name, and for that reason the article needs to make reference to that name, no matter how objectionable you may find this, because that old name is encyclopaedic content. In order to not offend Oromo readers more than necessary, in my edit I provided the context for that name, stating that it is of a pejorative meaning, and rejected by the Oromo community. Removing that name from all over Wikipedia, as you do, constitutes censoring and therefore non-constructive behavior. I will restore that content now, according to the policies of Wikipedia, and will call in administrator support if you continue to censor this article in the way you did so far. LandLing 14:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Oromo language, you may be blocked from editing. LandLing 16:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

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