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Sieve of Nicholls[edit]

Where would you recommend I look to publishing the results of this work?

I appreciate the distinction between referencing peer reviewed content, and being peer reviewed content.

Is there a reason why the wikipedia engine hasn't been cloned to facilitate the publishing of original material? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjnicholls44 (talkcontribs) 16:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I haven't thought about a wiki for original research. There are various journals of number theory and there are journals that accept papers in many areas of mathematics, including number theory. But if you want to put it on a web site without going through a full refereeing process, you could try this one. Michael Hardy (talk) 15:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Google Australia listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Cayley's sextic[edit]

Hi Michael, nearly 10 years since you taught me that Wikipedia was case sensitive! Thanks for your typography on Cayley's sextic. There is no need to to change "date" to "year" in citations, unless harvnb is being used, and probably not even then. All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 17:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC).

Math Overflow[edit]

Michael, do you know if MO or MO Meta have any kind of private message system, or a way for logged in contributors to contact other contributors by email? I don't an account there so I can't access all of its features, so I can't tell if something like that exists without enrolling. Of course in many cases it's possible to locate the person's contact info with web searches, but not always. Thanks. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 10:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

There was no such system last time I checked. That was a couple of years ago. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 19:58, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

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Statistical population / time series[edit]

Dear Michael, I saw your removal on time series in the article of statistical population. You're right that time series will mostly concern sample data. But there may be exceptions too. For example, take the time series of the number of soldiers in the Roman Empire by January 1st of every year, up to its fall in the year 476. That's definitely population data. (Just for info, this time series text is not original text of myself, it's something that I moved away from the article on Statistics (too much detail there) to the Statistical population article. But at least I can defend the possibility of the text.) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:32, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

A historical perspective on moment in physics and mathematics[edit]

I have posted a comment in your article/discussion on 'moment'. Please consider my request to elaborate the historical perspective on the issue. Bkpsusmitaa (talk) 16:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup of a page[edit]

Dear Michael, it seems to me that in Granger causality, the subsections after Granger causality#Reconstructing a sample network are merely describing the detailed experimental procedure of one of the papers. Should I delete it? I hesitate, mainly because it is a big chuck of text (unsourced though). (I have found you because of your edits on anohter article.) gratefully, Taha (talk) 20:50, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

AfD page moves[edit]

You should not be moving the AfD page or the nominated page while it's being discussed; it causes various problems, such as the bot thinking it's not been added to the logs and re-added. If you think it's a notable topic under another title then propose that in the discussion. Or wait until after the AfD is closed to move it or propose a move if it's controversial.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 20:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

an essay[edit]

Hi Michael,

A while back (a year or two?) you spearheaded an attempt to write a promotional essay aimed at getting mathematicians interested in editing on Wikipedia. I know that the effort didn't get very far but I do remember that there were some suggestions for what should be in the essay. I was wondering if you could point me to that material as I have been asked to write such an article for an MAA publication and would like to include any of the ideas that were brought up at the time. Thanks. Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 17:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find it. For some reason I didn't like the direction it took. I had thought of writing such a thing myself and my version would have been different from what was being suggested. Who asked you to write the article? AMS Notices? The Monthly? Michael Hardy (talk) 21:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Ivars Peterson (current publication director of the MAA) asked me to submit an article. No specific MAA magazine was mentioned, but there are several that would be appropriate. Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 03:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Monthly article draft: Wikipedia for mathematicians Michael Hardy (talk) 20:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Michael, thank you for your edit of "ell" in Zhao Youqin's p algorithm which makes a formular much more readable than "l", which looks like "one" --Gisling (talk) 23:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC).

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affine space[edit]

Of course people are confused by the intuitive "explanation". That is why it should be rewritten, by someone who actually knows what a vector space is in mathematics, and is not still rooted in some crude notion of position vectors as taught by bad high school teachers (since those are the only kind of vector for which one would usually talk of an "origin" RQG (talk) 23:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC).

I am a mathematician and I know what a vector space is. John Baez is a mathematical physicist who is highly respected by mathematicians as an expository writer on abstruse concepts and quite prolific in his writing on such things. In this blog posting you see him saying
"An affine space is like a vector space that has forgotten its origin."
I don't think that your understanding of the matter is superior to mine or to his. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:41, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

In mathematics, appeals to authority are merely a sign of lack of understanding, especially when the authority is known for glib remarks lacking in substance. I will agree that Baez is a better mathematician than you. I understand you are a statistician with a minor in maths at a university of no particular note, and that you think is as good as a first in mathematics from Cambridge. At least Boris Tsirelson understands that A cannot be a vector space without defining more structure, so do not make claims which you have already demonstrated false. RQG (talk) 05:51, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I did not raise the issue of academic degrees. And you are becoming rude and writing imbecilic nonsense. Michael Hardy (talk) 22:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

@RQG, I have explained at talk:affine space what I suspect is your principal misunderstanding of the mathematics involved. Michael Hardy (talk) 23:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I apologise for rudeness, but I think your assessment of my level of ability was also rude. I have responded to your comment on my talk space. John did point out that his description should immediately be made precise, which is certainly true and which is a major reason I have been advocating revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RQG (talkcontribs) 06:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Reviewing Interior reconstruction[edit]

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Feel free to remove this post from this talk page if you would like. Since you have shown an interest in this article's improvement I thought you might like to have this information.

Regards,

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IP editor[edit]

Hello. An IP editor (71.82.112.140) has been adding a lot of wrong wikilinks to articles related to mathematics and physics during the past few days. They clearly have no idea what they are doing and they keep doing so despite all the talk-page warnings by other editors. I think this is a highly actionable case. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:08, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hoax??[edit]

Why did you think that Amelia Bedelia (book) might have been a hoax? The linked article clearly mentions an addition to the article Amelia Bedelia, not the book.--Auric talk 19:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Quantum master equation[edit]

Thank you for pointing out my capitalization error, I will be more careful in the future. However, the link you redirected quantum master equation to is quite inappropriate. That article provides the quantum master equation FOR "an even degree element W of a Batalin–Vilkovisky algebra" ... it's not the article on "quantum master equations". In fact, The Batalin-Vilkovisky is a bizarre area for the application of a quantum master equation: a highly esoteric subject that only briefly overlaps with the use of quantum master equations in theory, while quantum master equations are more typically used in the study of open quantum systems. Until a real article is made for quantum master equation a more appropriate link would be to http://www.quantiki.org/wiki/Master_equation or to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_quantum_system .. but really the only place it should truly be redirected is to an article dedicated to the subject itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Universe (talkcontribs) 11:05, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but you're quite wrong. I redirected Quantum Master Equation (with capital initial letters) to quantum master equation (with lower-case initial letters). I never redirected anything to Batalin–Vilkovisky algebra. Someone else redirected quantum master equation (with lower-case letters) to that page. Michael Hardy (talk) 12:26, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

PCA page edits[edit]

Hi Michael. I recently had to do a PCA, and found it hard to gain intuition into the process from the wikipedia page, or from other online sources. I added an Intuition section to the principal component analysis page, and would appreciate if you could look it over. It's not very good, as I don't really understand PCA that well, but I thought starting an Intution section would be helpful to laymen.Potnisanish (talk) 16:01, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Please see Dao's theorem[edit]

I found you long time, now I see you at here. How are you? You remmember me? [You already help me at here]

I wrote Dao's theorem based on some articles, these are notable theorem and generalization of some famous theorem. I posted them since 28 to now(20 days) but not keep and not delete. Please help me read detail and give your comment keep or delete. Please see Dao's theorem. Thank to You very much.--Eightcirclestheorem (talk) 17:59, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Amedeo Modigliani[edit]

You can't change the file names -because the pictures broke. Hafspajen (talk) 01:47, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

You'll need to add some context here. I have no idea at all what you're talking about. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:58, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Michael, you changed the punctuation in the Gallery in this article, (and probably in others too) , see Modigliani. You can't change the punctuation on an image file name. If you do, you broke the image. See how the gallery looks here in the article.

Now that was reverted by some alert user, here - but think about the galleries, promise? Cheeers, and happy editing. Hafspajen (talk) 11:16, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cantor's first uncountability proof[edit]

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Draft:3D printer extruder[edit]

Thanks for the edits on this page. I have actually created a article out of this draft and I am not able to figure out how to delete this page. The pages are Draft:3D_printer_extruder and 3D_Printer_Extruder. Please look into this and suggest what should I do.

Priybrat (talk) 09:52, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews[edit]

Hello Michael Hardy. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.

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If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)

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issues :Global Cascading Model[edit]

Qing Jin (talk) 18:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC) Hi, Michael: Thank you for your comment on the global Cascading Model, you said I should give some new links to the article, here are some links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociological_theory_of_diffusion in this page, it mentioned a little bit about the model, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_contagion is highly relevant with the topic. So What I should do with that ?

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Notation.pdf[edit]

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Move request[edit]

Can you move The Man Who Sold the World (song) to The Man Who Sold the World? Because the title track rather than the album of the same name. 183.171.182.22 (talk) 05:11, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cantor's first uncountability proof[edit]

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Wikimedia genealogy project[edit]

Just wondering if you have any thoughts re: the idea of WMF hosting a genealogy project. If so, feel free to contribute to this discussion. And apologies if I have made this request before. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:55, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Cantor's uncountability proofs[edit]

In your edit summary at Georg Cantor, you said "I do not think his first proof is more complex or less elegant than the original. I think the original is more elegant." I think the 2nd sentence contradicts the first one. In my opinion, the 1891 proof is easier to understand than the 1874 proof. Did you mean that, too? - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 23:12, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I meant I don't think the 1874 proof is more complex or less elegant than the 1891 proof. Nor do I think it's harder to understand; I think if you're finding it hard to understand, then maybe a clearer explanation should be written. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, while neither is terribly difficult, the 1891 proof is certainly shorter. In that sense it's easier to understand.
The great merit of the 1874 proof is that it gives better insight into the behavior of the reals specifically. Descriptive set theorists are likely to like it better, because it's a baby example of the things they do. That's my background, and I like the 1874 proof better. But if a combinatorial set theorist liked the 1891 proof better, I'd have to reluctantly understand. --Trovatore (talk) 21:52, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
ok..... Michael Hardy (talk) 19:45, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Initial-stress-derived nouns[edit]

I agree with your restoration of the list of initial-stress-derived nouns. There is a way to handle this on Wiktionary: to create a category under wikt:Category:English terms by etymology. I'm not doing it myself at the moment — too laborious — but there's an idea. — Eru·tuon 05:09, 18 December 2014 (UTC) Or an article could be added here on Wikipedia and linked from Lists of etymologies. — Eru·tuon 05:12, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Do these words actually share a common etymology not shared by other words? Even if they do, that's not the essence of the matter. This is about a relationship between pronunciation and the meaning of the word, not about etymology. Michael Hardy (talk) 05:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Etymology is not only concerned with what original word something is derived from, but also what sound changes it has gone through in its derivation from that word. In this case, initial-stress-derived nouns are derived from a verb by a process of stress movement (or at least appear that way as we see them today), so they form an etymological category not by the word they come from, but by the process that formed them. (Check out the Wiktionary link above: there are several subcategories concerned with sound changes: apheresis, apocope, syncope.) — Eru·tuon 19:20, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Re. Malware[edit]

Out of sheer curiosity, why did you title the message on my talk page "malware"? That seems a bit odd for a wikicoding mistake I made almost two years ago. Command and Conquer Expert! speak to me...review me... 09:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Because what you did had very bad effects: It made everything that was posted below your posting invisible. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my error[edit]

I left this on my TALK page.

You are absolutely correct, Michael. I intended to get rid of that reference, but somehow restored it. I had written essentially the same thing as you in the TALK section of the article as follows: Admittance to the Union[edit]
Reverted edit. California was admitted to the Union 11 years before the Civil War. Activist (talk) 03:27, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Added unmentioned presence of Russian coastal colony north of San Francisco Bay, eventually purchased by Sutter. Activist (talk) 04:16, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Whoever originally put that in there may have also been the one who claimed that there was little European interest in Northern California, so I added the part about the Russian colonies, which also prompted me to clean up the insufficient info on Ft. Ross, Tomales Bay, etc. In fact, until trying to clean that up, I had no idea that Sutter bought out the Russian colony and that his influence was substantially wider than commonly portrayed. The problem seems to be that a great deal of info in the Sacramento article was clumsily written (probably by an editor whose first language was not English) or inaccurate, so I made an attempt to clean up the lead paragraphs, but didn't have the time to go through it all. I noted that it needs considerable work. Thank you for straightening out my inadvertent error. Activist (talk) 14:41, 17 January 2015 (UTC)Activist (talk) 14:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Models and Methods of Quantitative Economics - QEM[edit]

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line house[edit]

I have no idea, had not really heard the term before but I definitely know a few places to look. Thanks for the nudge. Jessamyn (talk) 19:39, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Cantor's first uncountability proof/GA1[edit]

Michael Hardy, I was wondering whether you were still interested in pursuing this nomination. You last edited the article on December 19, and posted to the review page on December 24, over a month ago. Please stop by the review at your first opportunity. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I'll be back to do further edits, but other things in my life have been occupying my attention, so I may work at a leisurely pace. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cantor's first uncountability proof[edit]

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About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote[edit]

Hi Michael Hardy. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (75th to be exact), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Content / editing[edit]

You said you are annoyed by my articles. Sorry. I do not write TeX by hand. I convert it from TeXmacs/pandoc. Writing TeX by hand would be a huge mess. Apparently, the conversion does not output TeX up to the standards of wikipedia. I will not be fiddling with TeX by hand simply because that is a waste of time. Therefore, I will stop writing anymore articles. If my 2 or 3 articles are too much trouble for any editors to fix to wikipedia standards, then they can be deleted. Good luck. Twy2008 (talk) 08:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I could also point out that your replacement of \mathrm{sin} with \sin has effectively vandalized the "Quaternion rotation biradial" article. At least one of the replacements didn't format correctly at Identities:_Product_ba_and_rotation_operator_R. Btw, not every function in mathematics has a specific LaTeX command like \sin, so in general, a function probably has to be written just the way I did it. I'm not sure it is my role anymore to try to fix this vandalism, or argue this any further. Twy2008 (talk) 15:35, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I did not say I was annoyed by your articles. I was annoyed by TeX code that was far more complicated than necessary. I have good news on one point: You could probably learn what you need to know of "TeX" for these articles in fifteen minutes. To call in "TeX" is quite exaggerated; it is only a system of coding mathematical notation nearly identical to what TeX uses. There's no need to actually learn TeX in order to use it. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Smooth minimum[edit]

Hi there, I noticed that you redirected Smooth minimum to itself, creating a redirect loop. I changed it to Smooth maximum because that seemed to be your intention, but I just wanted to check that that page is the intended destination. spiderjerky (talk) 20:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Celebrity deaths listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Witch?[edit]

Hi Michael, I've noticed that you just decapitalized "witch" in Witch of Agnesi in all instances. I thought that as a proper name of a specific curve it should be capitalized. I have seen some examples in the literature where witch was not capitalized, but the majority in my experience have capitalized it. Why did you think it shouldn't be capitalized. Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 20:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia generally tends to be fairly sparing in its use of capitals. Actually I think in this case a capital might not be unreasonable because "witch" in this instance is not a common noun; one does not speak of various sorts of generic "witches", of which is is just one. Michael Hardy (talk) 23:15, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Implicit curve[edit]

Hi, I just created a new article on implicit curves which is essentially a translation of the German WIKI (implizite Kurve) I created some weeks ago. Please could You or some one else check the language. It may not meet the WIKI-standard. Thank You !--Ag2gaeh (talk) 12:12, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Proof by contradiction[edit]

Michael, I don't see why you deleted one of the examples in the page Proof by contradiction. There wasn't really anything wrong with that example (summary: if there is a largest prime p, take any prime factor of p! + 1, that will be larger, contradiction, so there isn't a largest prime p). MvH (talk) 02:49, 12 April 2015 (UTC)MvH

I deleted that because it is a very very bad example. I explain why here. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:21, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

The 26 sporadic simple group articles[edit]

Hi Michael - I notice that you have been working on several of the individual sporadic simple group articles. I saw your change to Thompson sporadic group with the comment, "In group theory obviously does not tell non-mathematicians that mathematics is what this is about" and applied your same fix to the other 25 sporadic group articles (plus a few more with the same defect). Thanks. Since you may be interested, I invite you to look at User:Foobarnix/Revision and cleanups to individual sporadic group articles. We can talk more on that page if you like. --Foobarnix (talk) 17:43, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Protecting method of indivisibles[edit]

Hi Michael,

Recently there has been drive-by vandalism by IPs at a number of pages including Galileo Galilei, The Assayer, and Method of indivisibles. Could you "protect" the latter page so only autoconfirmed users can edit it? Tkuvho (talk) 13:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC) As I was writing the previous message, the same IP blanked The Assayer. I would much appreciate if you could "protect" that one, as well. Tkuvho (talk) 13:51, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Parse error on Modulo page[edit]

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Cantor's first uncountability proof[edit]

Hi Michael,

Sorry that I couldn't participate in the GA Review for Cantor's first uncountability proof. I didn't have the time then. Looking over what was said, I agree with SpinningSpark that the article needs a fundamental restructuring. I now have the time to work on a rewrite. I've already written a new lead (see User:RJGray/Cantor draft1) that handles SpinningSpark's point about whether the disagreement about Cantor's proof is a decades long dispute. I plan to work through SpinningSpark's excellent feedback. I really appreciate the time and thought he put into it. I also appreciate JohnBlackburn's feedback.

The new lead is also a "real lead": it leads into what is covered in the Wikipedia article including Cantor's development of his ideas (which SpinningSpark pointed out was not in the old lead). You may notice that I'm switching the order of the sections now titled "The development of Cantor's ideas" and "The disagreement about Cantor's proof." Doing this not only makes the lead flow better but also helps me handle some of feedback.

So I'm prepared to do a rewrite, but I need to know if anyone else is working on one, and whether the new lead is going in the right direction. I should warn you that my rewrite will take a bit of time. I believe that we can create an article that will attain Good Article status, but for me, good writing takes time and feedback. I'll need some feedback after I finish each section. By the way, I'm curious: do many people read the article as compared to other math or math history articles (the article is really a mix of the two), or is it not read much, or is there no way to know this?

Thanks again for nominating the article for Good Article, thanks for the edits you made to make it a better article, and thanks for attempting to bring it up to GA standards. Unfortunately, the writing I did in the article was not close enough to GA standards for you to succeed without a major rewrite. I'm sorry that my writing wasn't closer to GA standards, but I'm not surprised since it was my first contribution to Wikipedia and I didn't know the rules. RJGray (talk) 20:26, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Take a look at this page. It reports that as of through the 10th of August, the article has been viewd 439 times during August. It was viewed 1208 times in July. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Michael,

I've just completed a draft of the first three sections of my rewrite (see User:RJGray/Cantor draft1). They were fairly straightforward sections to write; I know the next two will be harder. I've kept all the math in the first two sections (the current article mixes math with the discussion about the nature of the proof). This along with the math I added tries to address the complaint about not that much math in a math article. Now the readers who just want to read math only have to read the first two (or three) sections; the third section is a bridging section. Of course, the article as a whole contains both math and math history, but now it's more cleanly separated. Also, I've taken the two proofs out of the footnotes, used the "math proof" template, and motivated and rewrote the proof about intervals excluding leading terms (in fact, this proof motivated me to simplify Cantor's proof).

I've simplified Cantor's proof by using open intervals, which also simplifies the case diagrams, the proof about excluding leading terms, etc. There will be 3 diagrams, one for each case in the construction. However, the case diagrams are not done yet. I only recently contacted someone who is doing them for the article. The case 1 diagram should handle SpinningSpark's observation about someone getting confused because it deals with a finite interval. Geometrically, it's obvious that in case 1, c is different from xn. I look forward to your comments.

On another subject: Euclid's proof that there are infinitely many primes. I remember that after you sent me the excellent article that you and Catherine Woodgold wrote, I traced the proof-by-contradiction back to Dirichlet. While reading up on the history of non-constructive proofs, I came across the following that states that Dirichlet was the first to use non-constructive existence proofs and that he used them in his number theory investigations: History and Philosophy of Modern Mathematics, vol. 11, p. 249. Here's footnote 27, which references Klein's book: History and Philosophy of Modern Mathematics, vol. 11, p. 257. Also, you may want to look at the proof in Wikibooks: Euclid's proof of the infinitude of primes. It states "Euclid's proof works by contradiction."

By the way, do you know why Wikipedia removed the MathJax option from the Appearance tab in Preferences? Also, MathML is giving me blanks (when printing) now. It was working for me about a week ago but it doesn't anymore. At least, PNG still works. Thanks, RJGray (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed those changes. Maybe one of the regulars at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics would know about this. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:33, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Michael, I've updated User:RJGray/Cantor draft1. Here's the major changes: Added section "The disagreement about Cantor's proof"; added Jochen Burghardt's case diagrams; separated notes and references. The case diagrams are in the section "The Proofs". Please send me any suggestions or corrections to the article (or you can make your changes directly on the draft). Thanks, RJGray (talk) 20:47, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Michael, I have now finished my first version of my first draft: it's in User:RJGray/Cantor draft1. I'm still actively working on it. I'm improving some of the writing. I've recently shortened my original "Dedekind's contribution" section and I'm looking for other places to shorten. I also need to check my links and do some miscellaneous tasks. I suspect it will take me about a month; I'd like to get it done by the end of the year. Any feedback would be appreciated. By the way, I'll be away from computers for about a week. RJGray (talk) 15:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. I'll look at the draft. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Michael, I've now finished my second draft: it's in User:RJGray/Cantor draft2. Did quite a bit of editing throughout. The biggest changes are: I redid parts of two proofs in "The Proofs" section (the proof of Cantor's second theorem and the dense sequence proof), and I added a short legacy section. I added this section for at least two reasons: ending with Dedekind's contributions leaves one with a negative feeling about Cantor—the legacy section ends more positively by telling how Cantor's contributions affected mathematics. Also, it points out the dual legacy of the article: the concept of countability and the uncountability theorem. The last paragraph combines the two with Skolem's insight into the uncountability theorem.

This second draft should be very close to the final draft. I made a few small changes today and probably will do some more small changes here and there. Also, I have some miscellaneous tasks to do (like making a final check of all my references). It should take a few more weeks; I'd still like to get it done by the end of the year.

By the way, is the plan to just post the article or let some editor make comments beforehand? Thanks, RJGray (talk) 22:39, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Michael, Just want to clarify my last sentence about "some editor": I know that you are an editor, and your comments are always welcome. I was wondering about one of the editors involved in the GA Review. Thanks, RJGray (talk) 15:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Titles with m-dash, outside of mathematics[edit]

I was going to move the California Legislature Session pages that have an en dash in them to not have one. I could not imagine why anyone would think this is correct? :-) Can you explain why "2015-16" should have an en dash? Separate from mathematics (which I am not sure of) does anyone suggest that titles should have en dashes in them? It makes it hard for tools, such as one I am writing, to deal with the URLs.

Ok. It turns out that I am wrong about this. I checked the MOS.

But. It says that for any page which uses this in its title, there should be a re-direct for the page with a hyphen. See MOS:DASH. Do you have any suggestion for how this can be handled. Since you did the re-naming to change the titles to use an en dash, can you create the re-direct pages? It would be appreciated.

RayKiddy (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

It is standard that ranges of years and ranges of pages use en-dashes (not em-dashes). Thus an article's initial sentence says:
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, DL, FRS, RA (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965) was a British statesman who was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1940 to 1945 and again from 1951 to 1955.
The date of birth and date of death are separated by an en-dash. If it had given onlly the years, it would have said Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, DL, FRS, RA (1874–1965), with no blank space before and after the en-dash. Similarly, ranges of pages use en-dashes, thus: The Gathering Storm pp. 170–71. If a hyphen rather than an en-dash had appeared there, I would have changed it to an en-dash with an edit summary saying I'm correcting a punctuation error. It's used in things like this: "Butterfly fossils date to the mid Eocene epoch, 40–50 million years ago." Note the en-dash in "40–50". It is also used in physical measurements, e.g. 2.5–3 kg, and with letters of the alphabet, e.g. A–F.
If I'm not mistaken, all this is codified in WP:MOS. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

My issue is not with en dashes in general. I was just finding it inconvenient that the en dash appeared in the title. It makes dealing with the URL for the article more complicated. And I do think that, even if it is correct to use an en dash in the title, there needs to be a re-direct page so that people searching for "2015 *hyphen* 16" find a page even if its title contains "2015 *en dash 16". But I can create these re-directs. Sorry if my comments seemed grumpy and thanks for the reply. Cheers. RayKiddy (talk) 17:02, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm surprised to hear there was no such redirect. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:45, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Dear Michael,

Your mathematical contributions over the years are appreciated. However, you persist with replacing valid low-complexity TeX math markup with ad hoc presentation markup such as bold and italic sequences. Could you please reconsider this? In modern browsers math markup is rendered well via a choice of MathML, CSS or images, whereas ad hoc markup seldom matches the surrounding text well – if you want to see more starkly what I mean, then try increasing the font size or specifying another typeface, as many people with impaired vision have to do. Moreover, screen readers need to parse the complex sequence of ad hoc markup, instead of simply using the contents of the math tag as-is. The sole blind student I have taught certainly preferred the raw TeX of "markup-math x^n + y^n = z^n markup-math-end" to having to follow sequences like "bold-x-unbold superscript-n-close-superscript plus bold-y-unbold superscript-n-close-superscript = bold-z-unbold superscript-n-close-superscript". If you have a cogent reason why ad hoc markup is still to be preferred in 2015, then please share it: I remain open to being convinced, but currently I have no choice but to frown upon your wide-ranging replacements of semantically meaningful math markup with ad hoc presentation markup. Ott2 (talk) 16:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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A few years ago[edit]

Hey for some reason I just felt like I could drop back by in a few years and you'd be still plugging along. You have invested so much work. I wanted to say that I was a direct beneficiary of some high level math theory discussion a few years back we had and that I was greatly impacted by the ability to interact with sharp minds like yourself here on Wikipedia where there's all types of users with all types of knowledge. For that I'm grateful and it was specifically about physics and a weird relationship between one equation and a number-theory relationship which nobody had yet pieced the two together.

When my exploratory question lead you to arrive at the same conclusion I was on the verge of making myself, it completely transformed me as a math hobbyist and into a math addict, haha. Well, just wanted to share your random impact on my life a few years ago which has led me to a lifelong hobbyist involvement in math and physics where I have an incurable obsession of ascribing causality to the parameters of various math equations which govern the laws of our physical universe. Cheers! 72.196.99.114 (talk) 19:04, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Michael Hardy (talk) 05:38, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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Saluton, mi ankau estas esperantisto, kiel vi fartas? --Binaryhazard (talk) 05:48, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Bone, sed cxi tie mi ne multe skribas en Esperanto. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:24, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

cis function[edit]

Hi Michael,

I have restored some old contents on the cis() function you contributed to the List of trigonometric identities back in 2003 and 2006. I stumbled upon cis(x) being mentioned in several related articles but I never found a "central" discussion of its usage from the viewpoint of the function itself, therefore I felt we need a separate article on it: cis (mathematics), as was suggested in one of the past discussions. The article is still unsourced and it needs some copy-editing for a better logical flow and to remove some redundancy. Since you were the original contributor I thought I'd let you know. It would be great if you could help out with some references etc. Thanks and greetings. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 02:39, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Rewrite of "Cantor's first …" article is done[edit]

Hi Michael,

I've finished my final draft of the article, it's located at User:RJGray/Cantor draft3. It took me longer than expected partly because I keep seeing ways to improve my writing, and partly because I realized that the article had a big flaw: Namely, the article's title was "Cantor's first uncountability proof," but the last four sections had little or nothing to do with the proof. The last three section titles—"The influence of Weierstrass and Kronecker on Cantor's article," "Dedekind's contributions to Cantor's article," "The legacy of Cantor's article"—led me to realize that I've written a fairly comprehensive article about Cantor's article. I also realized that the editors that participate in the Good Article review may also think that the old name doesn't reflect the contents of the new article.

So I've changed its name to "Cantor's first set theory article" and rewrote the lead. Cantor's article is a well-known, often-cited, and much-discussed article so I think it deserves a Wikipedia article. I realize the change of title requires a redirect from the old title. I boldfaced the old article title Cantor's first uncountability proof in the first paragraph of the lead so that redirected readers will know they're at the right place.

The article is ready to post as soon as you are comfortable posting it. Please send me any recommendations you have for improving it. I just have one request about posting. Please tell me when you are going to post it. I have written a Thank You for the people who have helped me with the article. I would like to post it to the article's Talk page soon after you post the article.

Thank you for your patience in waiting for my rewrite. --RJGray (talk) 17:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Article name should start with "Cantor's"[edit]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for posting the article. However, the name should start with "Cantor's" like the old article. When I do searches for Cantor articles, I start typing in "Cantor" and not "Georg". I only put "Georg Cantor" because I was copying "Cantor's first uncountability proof" which starts that way. I'm willing to remove the "Georg" because I think it's more important that the title start with "Cantor's". Thanks, --RJGray (talk) 15:46, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Currently Cantor's first set theory article is a redirect page targetting Georg Cantor's first set theory article. If you either (1) enter "Cantor's first set theory article" in the search box or (2) link to "Cantor's first set theory article" from another article, you will be directed to Georg Cantor's first set theory article. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on Cantor article; I have some concern about suggested move[edit]

Hi Michael,

Thank you very much for posting "Georg Cantor's first set theory article" and putting the redirects in. It's nice to see my work posted and know that some people are already reading it.

I have some concern about the suggested move to the title "On a Property of the Collection of All Real Algebraic Numbers." Currently, there are only two of us arguing back and forth. Perhaps you may be interested in participating in this discussion. Thanks, RJGray (talk) 00:54, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Algebriac structure (redirect page)[edit]

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The redirect contains an error. Xx236 (talk) 08:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
@Xx236: What is the "error" to which you refer? The typo in the page title? That was intended, for obvious reasons. If it is something else, then what? Michael Hardy (talk) 17:20, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
MH created that redirect page with incorrect format. (Xx236 should have fixed that error (in addition to tagging the page), much preferable over pointing it out.) I cannot determine whether the original incorrect redirect worked properly as a redirect, or just displayed a link. (I will not re-create the error there or elsewhere. I tried at WP Sandbox, but it apparently cannot simulate a redirect page.) MH contested the delete request (on the talk page). The next editor corrected the redirect error and re-tagged the page, as it remains today.
On redirect pages generally: A while ago, someone (possibly I) stupidly created a redirect article for one misspelled link in just one article. So I fixed the article and then tagged the orphan redirect page for deletion, for 3 damn-good reasons: The misspelling was unique; even Google could not find an instance; and the page should never have been created. None of that mattered! The cabal that day COULD NOT delete it! They were offended that I would even suggest it! If MH tomorrow begs "them" to delete the redirect page that he created, they simply won't. Notwithstanding Wikipedia's famous (or infamous) delete-o-maniacs, whose work inspires Deletionpedia and others, some parts of Wikipedia are embarrassingly write-only. (I don't know why undeletable redirect pages aren't abused more.) Anyway, marginally useful misspelling redirects (like this one) are even less likely to be deleted. Maybe "they" could set a threshold on the ratio of the incidence of the misspelling to the incidence of its correct spelling(s) that decides whether a misspelling redirect page is "encyclopedic". Let's test the idea for this case: Google hits (not guaranteed accurate) give "algebriac" ÷ "algebraic" ≈ 1/1058 and "algebriac structure" ÷ "algebraic structure" ≈ 1/3323. In conclusion, don't go ape adding misspelling redirects. There're sites for that (Google's (and others') natural typo correction), as well as Wikipeetia - The Misspelled Encyclopedia. (Wikipeetia article was deleted from Wikipedia twice, so Wikipeetia is not actually notable (here).) -A876 (talk) 06:28, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Wells Fargo[edit]

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Nomination of Maryna Viazovska for deletion[edit]

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryna Viazovska until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ubiquity (talk) 17:52, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Need to look at GA Review that was on Talk page of Cantor's first uncountability proof[edit]

Hi Michael, I need access the GA Review that was on Talk page of Cantor's first uncountability proof. Unfortunately, it was not moved to the Talk page of Georg Cantor's first set theory article. Can it be recovered and added to the talk of the new article, or at least accessed via a link? I need it because a sentence of the new article's lead was deleted. The sentence that was deleted refers to the first two sections of the new article so I think the sentence needs to be improved or put back. I wrote the lead with the guidance of the GA Review and its references. So I need the GA Review to improve the sentence or justify its existence. Thanks, RJGray (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Does this link work for you? Michael Hardy (talk) 20:29, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it does. Thanks, RJGray (talk) 23:43, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Clean Monday[edit]

Michael, wanted to let you know I undid your revision on Clean Monday about movable feasts. The hyperlink you provided was to an article about an organization called Moveable Feast, not to the article about the Christian liturgical practice. I admit I was confused too what with the spelling variations. FYI because it can be rather a shock sometimes when someone "undoes" your work! Foreignshore (talk) 22:02, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

You're mistaken: at the time I did that edit I changed the page titled moveable feast from a redirect to Moveable Feast (with a capital "F") by moving the page titled moveable feast (observance practice) to moveable feast (with a lower-case "f"). Hence moveable feast no longer redirects to Moveable Feast. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:48, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying; I must have undid the wrong edit. Looks like it works now! Foreignshore (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Unilateral page moves without engaging in discussion[edit]

In the future, please avoid performing unilateral page moves without engaging in discussion.

Please enlist feedback from our Wikipedia community via our WP:REQMOVE standard procedures.

Especially if you realize -- by the 2nd time -- that it is possible the page move could fall under potentially controversial moves.

Thank you for reading above,

Cirt (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

The page you link to says this: "If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page." If I had expected a dispute I would have discussed the matter. My recent moves seems uncontroversial. The principal meaning of the word "giraffe" is a certain animal with a long neck, and if there's also an organization called "Giraffe", one would expect the article title Giraffe to be about the animal and Giraffe (organization) to be about the organization. To have an article titled Giraffe (animal) would be unreasonable, to say the least. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps the first time. But the second (2nd) time, you should have sought out discussion through the Wikipedia community. In the future, please do not communicate solely by edit summaries during your reverting process. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
DIFF1 = 1 April 2016, and then again, with zero discussion the second time, in violation of WP:REQMOVE and WP:BRD at DIFF2 = 10 April 2016. — Cirt (talk) 20:31, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
In fact, it appeared from the edit summary that you may simply have initially overlooked the fact that in this case one of the meanings of the term is clearly primary. In WP:DISAMBIG one reads of "primary topics". Michael Hardy (talk) 21:09, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Different spellings. One ends in a lowercase word. The other ends in an uppercase word. No need for disambiguation. Before reverting, could have attempted discussion, on the article's talk page. Please do so in the future. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 21:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
I think there should be a disambiguation page because the similarity is confusing. People who don't know which capitalization conventions should be followed on the particular occasion may enter search terms. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Easily solved by two hatnotes at top of each page. But I wish you'd stated as much this clearly much earlier, in discussion on the talk page. — Cirt (talk) 00:05, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Capital Letters[edit]

I didnt realize the issue with capital letters. Can you explain more. Are we only supposed to capitalize the first word? Mim.cis (talk) 21:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg You look hungry. Here, have some stroopwafels! The Quixotic Potato (talk) 22:31, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. (I didn't know I looked hungry!) Michael Hardy (talk) 17:53, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Response rate (medicine)[edit]

Please write the page using reliable sources. The subject seems to be very serious.Xx236 (talk) 07:36, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Someone else will have to do that. I created the page because someone moved Response rate to Response rate (survey), leaving Response rate as a redirect, while saying the term is also used in medicine. There was at least one article linking to it that was about medicine. So I made Response rate into a disambiguation page and created a stubby new article. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Ailles rectangle[edit]

Thanks for pointing that out. I've uploaded a better version (although it's still a bit rough around the edges, I'm not that great with photoshop). --McGeddon (talk) 10:55, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Intelligent Water Drops algorithm for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Intelligent Water Drops algorithm is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Intelligent Water Drops algorithm until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. —Ruud 14:40, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ancestral health[edit]

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The article Ancestral health has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication of notability, or even being a cohesive subject. The title is a descriptive term encompassing subjects already covered, seems to violate WP:ELNO.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 20:05, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

All three links in the EL section are to websites advocating for what amounts to a paeolithic diet. So it runs up against 1, 5 and possibly 2. Also, I should point out that the article meets WP:A10 of the speedy deletion criteria. I'll lay off nominating it for a speedy for a week, so you can have time to add more info. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 21:05, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
A10 is about a new article that duplicates an existing article, yet you do not specify any existing article that you think it duplicates. Tell me which one. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:53, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Removed A10. Dane2007 (talk) 05:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Ancestral health[edit]

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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Ancestral health. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Paleolithic diet. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Paleolithic diet – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 22:06, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

@MjolnirPants: Removing good faith A10 as it is clearly not duplicating Paleolithic diet. Although diet is a large part of ancestral health, it is not the only part of it, per the sources provided. I would suggest you review the sources in the article more closely prior to nominating. Dane2007 (talk) 05:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

ANI[edit]

Michael Hardy, this is a routine content dispute. You wrote a very mediocre article that does not cite any independent, reliable sources, and that got called to your attention. Instead of improving the article, you nitpicked the comments of the other editor. Maybe this is because there appear to be no independent, reliable sources about your topic, and you are defensive about that. Yeah, the other editor could have been more friendly but so could you. My suggestion is, why don't you go upgrade your mediocre article into something worthy of the encyclopedia, if that is possible, instead of bickering? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

@Cullen: What in the world do you mean by "independent reliable sources"? Are you saying the sources I cited cannot think independently? What was "called to [my] attention" was that the pages I linked to exist for the purpose of selling something (patently false; it's a non-profit organization of professors who do research in that area) and that it's a duplicate of another article (and at first he refused to say _which_ other article, and when he did say what it was, it was obvious that it's not within light-years of being a duplicate). I wrote a _stub_ article and acknowledged that it was a stub. Michael Hardy (talk) 05:51, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Dane2007. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, it's important to be mindful of the feelings of your fellow editors, who may be frustrated by certain types of interaction, such as your addition to User talk:Tarage. While you probably didn't intend any offense, please do remember that Wikipedia strives to be an inclusive atmosphere. In light of that, it would be greatly appreciated if you could moderate yourself so as not to offend. Thank you. Dane2007 (talk) 06:05, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

On that note, do not edit my talk page again. I'll steer clear of yours as well. --Tarage (talk) 06:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

I must say that was only the second Wikipedian I've encountered who asserted that I should never dispute the assertions of someone who tells me I'm wrong, since telling me I'm wrong is doing me a favor. And the first one was the one I encountered only a few hours earlier. And here I speak as one who's edited Wikipedia pages every day since 2002. Michael Hardy (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

I think that there are a LOT of feelings regarding this particular incident running between all the parties who became involved. While there undoubtedly was feedback from all parties that was excessive or harsh, I think it's a perfect learning experience that sometimes a step back is needed to work towards a resolution. Remember - Wikipedians main focus is content integrity and just because one or two disagrees it doesn't mean the entire community does. This situation would've best been handled through dispute resolution. I hope you continue to contribute Michael Hardy. Dane2007 (talk) 06:12, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


Michael, can you please cool it with the sarcasm? Dane2007, you need to adjust your personal attacks filter a little higher please. --NeilN talk to me 06:27, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN: Thank you for the feedback! I will definitely review WP:NPA myself, I had second guessed myself on that one already. Dane2007 (talk) 06:32, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

_My_ personal attacks? In daily editing of Wikipedia pages for fourteen years I've never before encountered anyone on Wikipedia who explicitly said I was forbidden to express disagreement with him because he was doing me a favor by pointing out what he said were my errors. I was willing to communicate and discuss the issues; he told me I was forbidden to communicate but should simply obey him. Michael Hardy (talk) 06:44, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

You know that's not what he said. Your overblown exaggeration is unhelpful. --NeilN talk to me 06:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

That is indeed what he said. He is a hard-core bully. Michael Hardy (talk) 06:44, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay, please provide the diff where he explicitly stated you were "forbidden to express disagreement with him" --NeilN talk to me 06:46, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

This is bullying. He is angry that I would do anything so abusive as to say he was mistaken about factual assertions. I was willing to communicate about issues; he was unwilling. Michael Hardy (talk) 06:51, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

I agree it's rather snappish. But it's not what you claimed he said. Probably the best thing for all is to move on. You might want to respond at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Ancestral_health. --NeilN talk to me 06:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

ANI[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#This is an admin.21

As you are now blocked from editing, if there's anything you wish to say at that ANI report, please post it here and I'll be happy to copy it over for you. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016[edit]

Stop icon with clock
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I have blocked you for a short while for your continuing personal attacks against User:MjolnirPants, above (which I hadn't seen when I started that section at ANI). Your behavior is especially disgraceful as you're an admin, and if it continues after your block expires then you should expect to be blocked for longer. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:35, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
  • There's a growing consensus at ANI that my block was excessive, and so I have unblocked and I withdraw it unconditionally - and I have annotated the block log accordingly. But please try to remember the expectations of being an admin, as described at Wikipedia:Administrators#Expectations of adminship, especially the part that says "Administrators are expected to lead by example and to behave in a respectful, civil manner in their interactions with others" (though I know it can be hard sometimes, especially if others are a little sharp with us in their interactions). Also, as you were one of the very earliest admins and may not be familiar with current practice, please familiarize yourself with the purpose of the various noticeboards (such as WP:ANI), and with the WP:CSD and WP:PROD policies (and how to respond to them). Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Would you be willing to request a voluntary desysop?[edit]

Michael, considering the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#This is an admin!, would you be willing to request a voluntary desysop? I am not at this time expressing any opinion as to the merits of the arguments being made at ANI because I have not personally examined the editing history. I am simply posting this because as far as I can tell nobody has ever asked you whether you actually want to be a Wikipedia administrator. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: Does your inquiry or the thing you're proposing serve some purpose? Michael Hardy (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
That was harsh. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 21:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
@Callmemirela: I don't understand your comment. I asked a question, seeking information. I am wondering what purpose Guy Macon is attempting to serve. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
You evaded the question with another question and then had the unmitigated gall to say "I asked a question, seeking information", ignoring the fact that I had just asked a question, seeking information, which you refused to answer. I already told you what my purpose was. It is clearly explained in same paragraph as the question I asked. Evasion noted. Prior to this exchange, I was leaning towards opposing those who are calling for your resignation as an administrator. Now that I have seen how you respond to a good-faith question from someone who goes out of his way to not pass judgement without first examining the evidence, I am definitely leaning the other way. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
@Guy Macon: Am I under some obligation to answer your question? I had not heard that anyone had called for my resignation, and it would be useful to know your purpose in considering what answer to give. I am surprised by your anger. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:54, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I stand by my accusation against MjolnirPants.
I find it gratuitously disrespectful to be told that my statement is a "personal attack" rather than an accusation. And what have you to say about MjolnirPants's personal attack on me, against which I defended myself? Michael Hardy (talk) 18:38, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
As I said, I have no opinion on that question because I have not examined the evidence. Will I be getting an answer to the specific question I asked above any time soon? --Guy Macon (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Michael Hardy, the best thing you could do right now is resign as an admin. You're clearly very out-of-touch with current practices at the moment, and, without trying to offend you, I don't trust someone who doesn't understand basic behavioral guidelines enough to be an admin. Omni Flames (talk) 22:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
I would prefer that Michael not resign. The administratura has gone the wrong way in many ways; Michael could provide some needed balance. However I do agree he should try waiting overnight before responding more often (as should many of us). --Trovatore (talk) 04:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
However you feel about the current administratura, Trovatore, I find an admin who does not seem to understand WP:V (with its emphasis on reliable sources)—especially after so many years—alarming. Miniapolis 14:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
@Miniapolis: Can you find something among my many many contributions to Wikipedia that give you cause to doubt that I understand what reliable sources are? I think some confusion is going on here: In an article about an organization, in some circumstances people may was sources independent of that organization. The confusion begins when people mistakenly thought that the ancestral health article was supposed to be about an organization. It was not. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
We get that. The issue is whether the subject of "ancestral health" is independently notable, and consensus (which you seem to have difficulty accepting) indicates that at this time it is not. Miniapolis 17:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
"We"? Does the user account called "Miniapolis" speak for more than one person? Michael Hardy (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

No, it does not; I was speaking for everyone you seem to think is ganging up on you. I'm gobsmacked at your argumentativeness, and am done replying to you; this is a timesink. Miniapolis 22:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Miniapolis: You can't speak for others. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:32, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Color me puzzled[edit]

Frankly, I'm not sure that we have ever interacted. Despite that, I am very aware of your enormous contributions to the mathematical articles. I have a math background but one reason you have probably never seen me contribute to the math articles is that I felt the general subject was in good hands partly because of you and decided to contribute to other areas. I was surprised to see your name pop up in an odd incident at ANI. Please forgive me if this is intruding but is everything okay? It just doesn't seem quite right.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:39, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Ancestral health for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ancestral health is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancestral health until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Orange Mike | Talk 15:32, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Drop the stick[edit]

Michael, I have been following the ANI report you initially filed and its subsection by Boing. Right now, it is in your best interest to drop the stick and move on. You have been told plenty of times that what Mjoir (sp?) was not bullying or a personal attack. This message just shows that you clearly haven't moved on and are just continuously pursing the same argument. Enough is enough. Admins and other experienced editors have implied this. Now, please stop with these accusations and move on already. I second with everything Boing has said from the start of the ANI report.

Also, it's best for everybody that you resign as admin. You are not up-to-date with current policies and guidelines. You haven't used any of your admin tools since 2012 based on your logs. The current RfA is not the RfA from when you were granted admin tools. Things have changed since then. In my opinion, you are in no position to be an admin based on your behavior lately. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 01:25, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

@Callmemirela: : One thing I do moderately frequently that a non-administrator cannot do is moving pages over redirects, so your statement about 2012 is not correct. However, I've never attempted to keep up with policies not related to my regular activities.
Yes, some have said that what MjolnirPants did was not bullying. I disagree.
MjolnirPants told me that (1) a page to which I had linked existed primarily for the purpose of selling something, and (2) that an article I had created was a duplicate of another page, and he didn't tell me _which_ page, and I didn't know, but that (3) he would wait a week before calling for speedy deletion so I could improve the page. He didn't wait a week, but moved quickly. I responded to (1), that the linked page made NO attempt to sell anything, and (2) he should tell me _which_ page he thought was duplicated, since I didn't know. My disagreement with (1) and my inquiry about (2) were respectful.
But he was angered by my having the effrontery to disagree with him, and said I had no right to dispute his points. That, he said, was why he decided not to wait a week. He claimed I was obligated not to dispute his point in (1) or inquire about (2).
Is there some policy that forbids me to dispute something (as in (1)) asserted by a less experienced user or to ask him to clarify (as in (2))?
Why is there a double standard that says if someone accuses me of "insulting" another user, that is an "accusation", but if I accuse him of bullying, that is _not_ an "accusation" but rather an "insult"? Michael Hardy (talk) 04:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Callmemirela. No offense to you, and I'm not going to have an opinion on who is or isn't bullying who, because if you feel you are being bullied, I respect that you feel that way. Regardless, these discussions aren't getting you anywhere. I also recommend, for your own benefit, that you just let this go. Don't communicate at all with the other user, because it's clear you won't be able to work together in harmony. Just focus on improving articles and stuff like that. I have been a victim of bullying and I now sometimes find myself just laughing at comments that come my way. That might not work for you, but for this situation, you'd be better off letting this go and not communicating with anyone you feel you can't get along with. Linguist 111 Please reply on the current talk page and ping me by typing {{ping|Linguist111}} before your message as a courtesy 05:25, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hi.

I created a dozen of math/comp. science article, and I often see you correct what I write. Or at least edit and improve my wording and my programs/maths formatting. So I wanted to thank you for this. Arthur MILCHIOR (talk) 04:30, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello. I'm glad you like it. Michael Hardy (talk) 04:35, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Please read[edit]

No action is going to be taken against MjolnirPants. If you can't accept this and let it go, then a block will be needed to stop your disruptive editing. --NeilN talk to me 04:59, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom request[edit]

I have made a request to ArbCom, in which I have named you as a party. It is at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#User:Michael Hardy. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Note[edit]

I'm not sure if you've spent much time following arbitration matters (understandable if not, most people avoid us! :) but I just wanted to be sure you were aware this is often a fairly slow process, even at the early stage of deciding whether to accept a case request. Please feel free to take your time in deciding how to respond, both to the case request itself and to the feedback you've received leading up to it; you don't need to worry about replying hastily. (And for clarity's sake, I am one of the 12 currently active arbs.) Opabinia regalis (talk) 21:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

  • It looks like this case is proceeding faster than normal, there are already three votes to accept (one less than the acceptance threshold). Opa's advice usually holds, though. (I'm a clerk, but not speaking on behalf of ArbCom). Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Please trim your statement at arbitration case requests[edit]

Hi, Michael Hardy. I'm an arbitration clerk, which means I help manage and administer the arbitration process (on behalf of the committee). Thank you for making a statement in an arbitration request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Michael Hardy. However, we ask all participants and commentators to limit the size of their statements, including replies, to 500 words. Your statement significantly exceeds this limit. Please reduce the length of your statement when you are next online. If the case is accepted, you will have the opportunity to present more evidence; and concise, factual statements are much more likely to be understood and to influence the decisions of the Arbitrators.

Requests for extensions of the word limit may be made either in your statement or by email to the Committee through this link or arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org if email is not available through your account.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 00:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Just a heads up (not for the Committee), arbs have historically been likely to grant extensions to the subjects of arbitration case requests. Submitting a request for more space is not inadvisable. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 00:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
I have reduced your arbitration statement length to the 660 words mark (slightly over the prescribed limit). This has been done as a clerk action and should not be undone without the express permission of the Arbitration Committee. The majority of what was removed also failed to show diffs supporting the statements. Please could you check your statement and support the remaining claims with the appropriate evidence. Amortias (T)(C) 19:29, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

User talk:MjolnirPants[edit]

Michael, according to the revision history, in this diff you inserted both MjolnirPants' response to your question and your response to him. What's going on? GoldenRing (talk) 11:07, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) He copied it from his own talk page here, section "Proposed deletion of Ancestral health", above. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:13, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

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Please note[edit]

Guy Macon asked you not to post to his talk page a couple days ago. [1] Please respect that request. --NeilN talk to me 12:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Ears burning[edit]

A heads up that there is a thread about you started now at Wikipediocracy, entitled "A Nice Day for a Hanging."

My unsolicited advice to you would be to resign the Administrative tools as quickly as possible and to get back to regular editing work without saying another word about the recent dustup. Sorry that you've run into trouble and I and others appreciate you ongoing service to The Project. —Tim Davenport /// Carrite (talk) 16:27, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Michael Hardy arbitration case opened[edit]

You were added to a mass-message list because of your displayed interest in this case. The Arbitration Committee will periodically inform you of the status of this case so long as your username remains on this list.

You were recently listed as a party to and/or commented on a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 25, 2016, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kharkiv07 (T) 17:23, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, can I confirm that your statement at the workshop page of the above request was intended for its location. As it does not appear to be a motion or request it seems like it may have been aimed at the evidence page. Amortias (T)(C) 20:10, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Your statements at Arbitration evidence[edit]

Hi,

Per the statement regarding evidence being submitted requiring diffs

You must use the prescribed format in your evidence. Evidence should include a link to the actual page diff in question, or to a short page section; links to the page itself are inadequate. Never link to a page history, an editor's contributions, or a log for all actions of an editor (as those change over time), although a link to a log for a specific article or a specific block log is acceptable. Please make sure any page section links are permanent, and read the simple diff and link guide if you are not sure how to create a page diff.

Could you please arrange to supply the required diffs to the statements being presented or remove those that are not supported.

Amortias (T)(C) 21:18, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

As more than 24 hours have passed since this request was logged and you have edited in the meantime I have trimmed your statement to remove the sections unsupported by diffs. If you are able to include diffs to back up the statements then they may be included otherwise they should not be reinserted without the prior authorisation of a clerk or arbitrator.Amortias (T)(C) 22:31, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Please refrain from making personal attacks. The statement removed here does not add to the evidence being presented and is uncivil. Further additions of such material will result in you being prohibited from editing the case pagesa and having to submit evidence directly to the Arbitration Committee. Amortias (T)(C) 15:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I have removed this section as the edit summary used for its addition linked it to a specific editor, as no diffs were provided to back up these claims it has been removed as the 48 hours you advsied diffs would be added within has expired. If you are able to supply diffs to confirm these statements you may reinsert them. Otherwise they should not be reinserted without the express permission of a clerk or arbitrator. Amortias (T)(C) 12:33, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Leave me alone[edit]

Since you refuse to let it go, make false accusations against me and have a battleground mentality, I ask you to leave me alone and never post on my talk page again. Goodbye. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 06:23, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm the one with a battleground mentality? You've been harrassing me. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:28, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Possible explanation[edit]

Would you have time to look at what I said here? I have been trying to understand why there has been such a disconnect in perceptions in this dispute. Your thoughts on that would be appreciated. Carcharoth (talk) 14:13, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Evidence submission restriction[edit]

Hi Michael.

You were previously warned by myself that personal attacks are prohibited and that you may be restricted from participation in arbitration cases if they continue. Since then you have made further personal attacks, the following restriction is now in place with regards to your participation at the Arbitration pages related to WP:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy:

For 24 hours from the timing of this post you are prohibited from adding evidence to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy/Evidence without being pre-approved by an arb/clerk.

This approval may be sought by email to clerks-l@lists.wikimedia.org, and if the proposed addition is free of personal attacks and is appropriately supported it will be granted.

Violations of this restriction or the addition of inappropriate material to other case pages may lead to it being enforced through the use of blocks.

This restriction is enacted pursuant to WP:AC/CP#Maintaining_order_and_decorum_on_arbitration_pages and may be appealed to clerks-l@lists.wikimedia.org.

Amortias (T)(C) 20:52, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

While it by no means is required, as the other case clerk I endorse this restriction and remind you that conduct during a case may be considered by arbitrators when making their final decisions. Kharkiv07 (T) 21:52, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
@Kharkiv07: @Amortias: : Where are the personal attacks? There are numerous allegations against me on that page. Has everyone who posted those been similarly admonished about personal attacks against me? The section to which you link contains a diff and points out the context and says MjolnirPants addressed me in language suitable only to an overseer addressing slaves. Is there a difference between a "personal attack" rather than an allegation for which evidence is presented? Are others allowed to make such allegations, whcih constitute "personal attacks" only if done by me? Michael Hardy (talk) 22:26, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
If you believe that statements that are being made are personal attacks and that they have been overlooked by myself or my colleagues please let me know and I will review them and action according to my best judgement. Amortias (T)(C) 22:28, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
@Amortias: Please tell me where the personal attacks are that you say I wrote. It appears to me that there is a double standard: Someone saying I did something wrong is not treated as a "personal attack" but when I say someone did something wrong, with arguments and evidence, you call it a personal attack. Michael Hardy (talk) 23:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Dear Michael: you compared an editor to a slavedriver. That is a personal attack. There is a big difference between an allegation (sourced or not) and a personal attack. This was a personal attack, and I urge you not to make any more of them. As the wise man once said, if you're in a hole, stop digging. You're in a hole: please stop digging. Maybe it was a wise woman, who knows. Now kindly leave the clerks alone; they're doing their job (they do it for free and, unlike the arbs, they don't even get the use of Courcelles's hot tub) and they seem to be doing a pretty decent job. Focus on what you need to do, not on how you can rub more people the wrong way. Drmies (talk) 19:48, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
What I said was that he addressed me in language suitable only to an overseer addressing a slave. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:52, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Michael, your failure to acknowledge your violation of WP:NPA is appalling and I hope the Arbitration Committee take this instance into account when deciding on an appropriate sanction. Zerotalk 11:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
@Patient Zero: : I have not failed to acknowledge that policy; I have behaved consistently with it. If I make an accusation backed up by evidence, that is not a violation of the policy, any more than you violate the policy by accusing me of violating it. I could call _that_ a "personal attack" with equal justification. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:59, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
I have not personally attacked you. Please read WP:NPA carefully. Zerotalk 17:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
@Patient Zero: : That you did not personally attack me is what I just said. Michael Hardy (talk) 22:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Calculus handouts[edit]

Hi, Michael Hardy. You have mentioned some calculus handouts in some of your answers at Math Stack Exchange, but all the links seem to be broken by now. :( I could only find https://web.archive.org/web/20100729024925/http://www.math.umn.edu/~hardy/1271/handouts.html , but only one PDF is still downloadable. :( I am curious about them. Are there any working links to them? Thank you. 189.63.174.142 (talk) 02:38, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I see that this link is working. I'll see if I can find the other ones. Michael Hardy (talk) 14:22, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I've read some of your answers there, and I like your ideas on the teaching of calculus. 189.63.174.142 (talk) 17:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your interest. I'll probably post some things here within a couple of weeks. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:42, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Ancestral Health[edit]

You are probably sick of this topic by now, but to me it is clear that this "movement" is far more significant than movies or video games or movie stars or porn stars (for which there are thousands of Wikipedia articles). Personally, I don't agree with a lot of the ideas of this movement, but I do think it is worthwhile to accurately report on what they believe. That guy that you reported to ANI was far too eager to delete your article; I think you had a legitimate reason for using ANI. On the other hand, this ARBCOM case against you is completely ridiculous. Don't let them make you give up your administrator status. Jrheller1 (talk) 06:22, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Workshop posts[edit]

Hi Michael

I have standardised the layout of our proposals at the workshops phase. If you are able to could you give each of the sections an appropriate heading where I have left the hidden comments in your section to finish the standardisation it would be greatly appreciated. Amortias (T)(C) 18:42, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Arbitration propossed decision[edit]

Hi Michael Hardy, in the open Michael Hardy arbitration case, a remedy or finding of fact has been proposed which relates to you.  Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Amortias (T)(C) 19:44, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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Michael i just read your message about capitalizing[edit]

I am very sorry. I am trying to learn quickly enough to keep up with the modern age that you guys have created. Thank-you for letting me know. I will be careful with the capitals. Warm regards Mim.cis (talk)

Nomination of Right circular hollow cylinder for deletion[edit]

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy closed[edit]

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

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Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy closed

Karl Schröter[edit]

Hi Michael Hardy, do you happen to read German? Scope creep (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Somewhat. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Re: proper link[edit]

Sorry for that. I was writing outside my comfort zone. I haven't the faintest idea what a lie superalgebra is. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 22:19, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: Actually, it's a Lie superalgebra, with a capital "L", since "Lie" is a person's name. It rhymes with "tree". See Sophus Lie. Michael Hardy (talk) 22:51, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins[edit]

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Michael Hardy.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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v:Calculus I[edit]

Michael: That is the new home for that page. Thanks for your help with the math markup. Please review that page there and tell others (high school and college math students and faculty) about it. Thanks in advance.--2602:304:CDC1:90:64C5:4976:D62C:FF33 (talk) 11:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Probability distribution of extreme points of a Wiener stochastic process[edit]

Hi, thank you for improving the page. The introduction is still work in progress (I have still to translate it from the italian page). Apart from this you changed "extrema" with "extreme". I meant "extrema" as either "maxima" or "minima".

Extremum, plural Extrema, in calculus, any point at which the value of a function is largest (a maximum) or smallest (a minimum). There are both absolute and relative (or local) maxima and minima.Jul 20, 1998 extremum | mathematics | Britannica.com https://www.britannica.com/topic/extremum

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_and_minima

So would you reconsider the change, considering the above?

Cheers, --db

Ballad2 (talk) 14:39, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

@Ballad2: : For some decades I have been aware of the meaning of "extremum" and its plural "extrema". But I used those words only as nouns, not as adjectives. Hence I wrote "extreme points". Michael Hardy (talk) 04:34, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Ok, undestood. Thank you for the explanation. I was misguided by the fact that in italian adjectives are declined (singular vs. plural) as well as nouns. Maybe I should have dropped "points", so extrema would becomes a noun. You are native tongue, so you can suggest the best option.

Ballad2 (talk) 08:25, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry![edit]

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC) Lights ablaze.JPG

Article on stochastic process completely re-written[edit]

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Happy New Year, Michael Hardy![edit]

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Duolingo has dropped its Immersion translation system; perhaps Wikipedia can get it from them[edit]

Hi Michael,

Duolingo had an Immersion component where I worked on translations, often from Wikipedia. It was a system where people would crowd-source and come up with good translations. I think Wikipedia should look into picking up Duolingo's Immersion system of translation -- it would be a lot better than the current system which has run into problems with people using machine-translation too much. Duolingo's crowd-sourcing technique is far better. Could you send this information to people in Wikipedia who may be interested? I'm willing to help look into it, too. Thanks, --RJGray (talk) 17:21, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Interesting.... I'll run this by a few people. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)