User talk:Milliot

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RE: earning your medals (barnstar) etc.[edit]

This editor is an Apprentice Editor and is entitled to display this Service Badge.

Sadly I've not been awarded any barnstars based on my actual contributions. Like you I've taken on projects which require edits across multiple pages without recognition of others. Personally I'm not bothered by this. Service awards however are easier to get, so easy you can do it your self, just look at and follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Service awards. If need be you can research yourself and your edits through the tool server by way of programs such as Interiots edit counter[1]. You can also confirm your first logged in edit as a user by clicking on my preferences.

You may wish to add the edit counter to your user page for later research by adding {{userinfo}} to the very top.

My research would show you have been a member for 16 Months and have made 1777 (1499 Mainspace) edits. According to Wikipedia:Service awards you are officially only an Apprentice but could also award yourself the earlier service award of Novice. The guidelines are clear for service awards, not just time as a member of the community but also edit count.

Furthermore there are often Barnstar Drives for performing needed tasks often listed in the villiage pump and community portal.

My only advice to you would be don't take anything personally, quality is still better than quantity, and include more edit summaries (which also reduces the chances of reversion). Slysplace talk 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The reward is often just in the doing, the expectation of something deserved is often similar to assumed ownership of an article one creates. Have you read Contributing to Wikipedia? or better yet Five pillars Remember just be bold. It's all about sharing knowledge, awards will come. Slysplace talk 22:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Editing your user page is good practice, enhancing it is good practice too. Should teach you skills to format other pages the User page design center is a good resource once kept by the Transhumanist . Best of luck Slysplace talk 23:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
May I be so bold as to help you clean up your user page? Paste this into search - - > User:Slysplace/charitypage1 (purposely not linked) Some suggestions your free to use. Slysplace talk 22:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Stradivarius[edit]

hello. i once again, restored the information you deleted from the stradivarius article on the Nagyvary research. regardless of whether or not the data appears elsewhere, it still has relevance here. cheers! --emerson7 07:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Elizabeth Gilels[edit]

Please don't add biographies of other people into the Elizabeth Gilels article. If they're notable enough to pass WP:BIO, then they should have their own articles. If they're not notable enough for BIO, then one or two sentences is sufficient. Corvus cornixtalk 17:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems to me like a sneaky way to try to get biographical information about people who fail WP:BIO into the encyclopedia. Please discuss at [[2]]. Corvus cornixtalk 20:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You will note that I have made no claims about the notability of the subject of the article, Elizabeth Gilels. If you think that there are reliable sources to prove the notability of her descendants, then they should be in separate articles for each of them. If they don't meet notability standards, then stuffing them into an article about somebody else is, indeed, sneaky, and I stand by that. Corvus cornixtalk 22:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Corvus, I notice that you are not an administrator. If you are a commited wiki contributor, you would see how much I have contributed. And calling my article sneaky is rather adolescent of you. The dynasty of Leonid Kogan and his wife Elizabeth Gilels, is an important one in the music world. Leonid Kogan is described in all of the history books, and encyclopedias as a legendary violinist. His wife is from the same circles and is considered an important violinist and one of the great pedagogues of the Soviet School. Her teacher ABRAM ILICH YAMPOLSKY is a world renowned pedagogue of the Soviet School of Violin. Who's students went on to become legendary. These figures of the music world have earned the right to these titles. Every known book mentions them in these terms. If you have issues, look them up to confirm your reservations. But please, stop belittling the legendary musicians and pedagogues by taking out the superlatives that they have earned in history. Would you call Einstein just a Scientist? Merci Milliot (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It's your responsibility as the editor of the article to provide reliable sources, it's not the responsiblity of those of us who come by and find sources lacking, to do the diligence that you should have performed when you wrote the article to begin with. Corvus cornixtalk 23:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Provide the sources and all will be fine. Don't provide sources, and you're being obstructionist. Corvus cornixtalk 23:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(assistance)#User:Milliot[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(assistance)#User:Milliot. I have no quarrel with the notability of the subjects of your articles, nor do I want to take anything away from the large amount of work you have done, which I applaud, but there really needs to be a lot of work done to your articles to get them up to encyclopedic (and English grammatical) shape. Please don't take this as an attack, as it really is not, in any form. If you find this insulting, I strongly apologize, because I am really not trying to insult you. Corvus cornixtalk 23:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No problems here. I have provided references where citation was requested. Perhaps you would like to offer me a service badge for the large amount of work I have done? :)Milliot (♫♫) 00:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

verifications[edit]

any claim made regarding blp must be buttressed by reliable, verifiable references. --emerson7 20:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Can you be more specific "regarding blp" ?Milliot (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

blp is a reference to assertions made regarding living people. further, you cannot use wikipedia articles as references. --emerson7 21:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


Just so you are aware, I was not the one using wikipedia articles as references.Milliot (talk) 03:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:GiuseppeFiorini.jpg[edit]

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Hello Ricky81682, The image is in public domain, dating from 1890's. Author is uknown. If you would like, please ask User:Florenus about its background.Milliot (talk) 00:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Guadagnini[edit]

i once again reverted your changes. please, please, please, reference mos guidelines for creating and formatting references, and the how to set up and order articles. if you need help, please ask. --emerson7 19:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(assistance)#User:emerson7[edit]

verifications;

Please help. I seem to be having a problem with emerson7 undoing work that I have contributed. The adds. that I have made are self explanatory. The issue is with "Performers who have used or are using Guadagnini instruments"

The performers who have used (and most of them are deceased), are linked to wiki articles. The instruments that these artists used, are linked to a professional database cozio.com. The links are to specific instruments they have used (which are marked accordingly on cozio site). If emerson7 is not familiar with such information, he/she should either get familiar & or try to correct whatever it is that he/she does not agree with. But deleting valuable information and reverting it back to the way it was, which was insufficient for that reason had these posted:

stradivari[edit]

firstly, i think the word you seek is debunked, not rebuked. secondly, i reverted because whether or not the research was invalidated, it nevertheless passes the test of relevance, and is of importance to the overall story of the mystic of the stradivari instruments. thirdly, since i personally have not reviewed navagry's research, i didn't think it appropriate for me to either defend his work, or challenge your claim.

please understand, that my concerns about your editing are not personal. however, i urge you to pay particular attention to wp:mos style guidelines, and not be so obstinate when the errors you make are corrected. cheers. --emerson7 22:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

If one is to consider the importance of the hundreds of makers who have been inspired by Stradivari, and the mystery surrounding his instruments, there are much bigger names that should be named who have made their own significant contributions.Milliot (talk) 23:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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Notability of Jean Adam / bow maker[edit]

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I don't think this contetnt is relevant and has no notability sorry. Use {{hangon}} if you think it is! Didz93 (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I have just created the article of this notable 19th century French Master Bow Maker. Please read the full article before you start tagging articles for deletion. We are trying to expand wiki not delete it;) Thanks in advance.Milliot (talk) 02:37, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Jules Garcin[edit]

Hi. This is to explain that although composers don't have bio-infoboxes, neither do violinists etc. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music#Biographical_infoboxes. Thanks for your understanding on this.--Kleinzach 05:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

To ascertain a consensus about using info boxes on instrumentalists, we should have more time to see what that consensus truly stipulates. At the moment the guidelines don't reflect a major consensus against info boxes for violinists, they reflect the consensus on Composers Project and the Opera Project.See Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music#Biographical_infoboxes. So if you don't mind, I would rather like to see info box for Garcin and other violinists. There are existing info boxes for other "historic" violinists, that were done by others and nobody seemed to mind them. Thank you for your understanding. Milliot (talk) 09:45, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

''Grand'' Adam[edit]

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Thanks for the message. What I actually wanted to do, is to link "Grand Adam" to an existing article of the same person Jean Adam / bow maker known as "Grand Adam". If you know a better way of re-routing "Grand Adam" to the existing article, please make a correction. I have no intention of writing two identical articles under different titles. So, again to reiterate, "Grand Adam" is Jean Adam / bow maker. Thank you.Milliot (talk) 10:01, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

April 2009[edit]

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Copyright problem: Caressa & Francais[edit]

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Though this is from the Smithsonian website, I dont know that it can be freely copied as some govt sources can. Requesting another editor consider it. From the website in question: A duplication application must be completed and submitted to the Archives Center for review and approval. RadioFan (talk) 16:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for your concern. If you read carefully, what you refer to as a violation, was a quote from the Smithsonian Site on Jacques Francais. I have just confirmed with the Smithsoian Institution, that it is OK with them and they are delighted with it.

Permission granted from the Smithsonian Institution for the use of the small bio on Jacques Francais. Feel free to contact them at haberstichd@si.edu.Milliot (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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The material you marked as [not in citation given], is information that is confirmed by a leading expert in this field. He is often quoted in string magazines etc. I consult him often. You can contact him yourself, just follow his link. The information you marked, is also verifiable in other literature (listed in References). Since he is a reliable source for confirming and providing invaluable historic information, I cite him as well as experts such as Charles Beare and others. It makes for a stronger article when it concerns the categories of Luthier and Archetier.Milliot (talk) 17:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that the information in the article was not in the source you referenced. The citation was to the top level of a website and I'm not seeing any mention of the information in the article. The quotations you mention in magazines would make a very good reference, could you use that instead?--RadioFan (talk) 18:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)



The material you marked as [not in citation given], is information that is confirmed by a leading expert in this field. He is often quoted in string magazines etc. I consult him often. You can contact him yourself, just follow his link. The information you marked, is also verifiable in other literature (listed in References). Since he is a reliable source for confirming and providing invaluable historic information, I cite him as well as experts such as Charles Beare and others. It makes for a stronger article when it concerns the categories of Luthier and Archetier.Milliot (talk) 17:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


I just provided other references where marked [not in citation given], and those references are from the References List. If that makes you happier....Milliot (talk) 21:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

{{helpme}}

I am having problems explaining to an editor RadioFan (talk · contribs · count) that tagging an article before it is finished is not the ideal situation for trying to expand wikipedia. I have taken into account what he/she is trying to improve, but if they are not familiar with the Luthier and Archetier categories in wiki, they should not be deleting material & or tagging it as [not in citation given]. I have provided info (as per request by RadioFan), and acquired permission from the Smithsonian Institution to use a small part (bio on Jacques Francais).

It is not the most productive way one can help in expanding wikipedia. Deleting my previous posts on his/her talk back page, is quite telling. If he/she is not familiar with the categories of Luthier and Archetier, they should not intervene. You may also notice that I have expanded those categories a great deal. I consult with top experts, and provide all citations where necessary. Tagging an article while it is being written and expanded, is not courteous. I request that the article in question is fully protected. Thank you in advance.Milliot (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I removed those items from my talk page to keep the discussion in one place, there is no need to copy and paste between the two. Perhaps this should be taken to the article's talk page? Really, I am trying to help make this article better and am having trouble understanding why proper sourcing is such a big deal here. The ultimate goal is to get each article to featured article status. Rather than assume ownership, step back and look at the citations and see how they can be improved. Also, copyright violations are taken very seriously on wikipedia. There is a process to follow to ensure that permission is granted in a way that is accepted by wikipedia, when you removed those tags, instructions on that process were lost. --RadioFan (talk) 22:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


I really think you have not heard a single thing I have replied to you. There is no copyright violation. I have permission from the Smithsonian Institution for use of some of their material. Citations have been updated and changed. You are not reading it or you choose to ignore it.Milliot (talk) 22:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, its clear that there is an issue here. How about we focus discussion onto the Talk:Caressa & Francais so we can sort this out. :) ∗ \ / () 22:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Thanks, and I request that the article in question is fully protected. Thank you in advance.Milliot (talk) 22:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Hullo, as you may have seen I posted on RadioFan's talk page a few moments ago. I'd encourage you to continue the present discussion at the article's talk page. First of all, thank you for creating the content. I notice that you state you have permission from the Smithsonian institute for potentially copyrighted and incompatibly licensed material. For it to be used on Wikipedia, the copyright owner needs to agree to license the content under the GFDL version 1.2 and any later version. This permission then needs to be sent on to the OTRS (ticketing) system run by wikimedia to that it can be verified and archived.
In terms of your specific dispute with RadioFan, I'd really encourage you both to take a step back and, effectively, get onto the same wavelength. You both have one aim - improving the encyclopedia, but you are going about it different ways. I'm sure you'll be able to come to a solution with a mutual concerted effort! Thanks Martinp23 23:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I have made the post similar to this on the articles talk page. Full protection is, at this stage, unnecessary. ∗ \ / () 23:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:GiuseppeFiorini.jpg[edit]

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Giovanni Grancino[edit]

Help, please, if possible! I found a reference missing for Giovanni Grancino, #2, you happen to be the last one who edited there. I could't find a reference but am no expert in the field. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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Orphan pages[edit]

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Ways to improve August Barbe[edit]

Hi, I'm Salimfadhley. Milliot, thanks for creating August Barbe!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Rather than provide a list of references, it's generally best to use inline citations so readers know which source backs up which point.

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