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2015 Asian Fencing Championships[edit]

Hi, I don't know what the picture is about, but this is plain wrong. A match was fenced for the bronze medal, as it says both on the organiser's page and on the FIE's. Both sources mention third and fourth places, not joined third places. All zone championships are the same on this respect. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:13, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@Jastrow:, then you should find out what the picture is about, use google translator, this is not even new, in Asia they award two bronze medals, that "bronze medal match" is only valid for FIE World ranking. Mohsen1248 (talk) 12:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
It's the other way round. Maybe they give a medal to the 4th team, but there is only one third team, as proven by the ranking match. It's very misleading to mention the 3rd and 4th teams on the same footing, especially this isn't only about FIE ranking, but also Olympic qualification. Also this should be mentioned explicitly in the article as no other zone championship does this AND supported by a proper reference. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:06, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
@Jastrow:, What matters is they give medal, which means those teams should be in medal table and medal summary, if you want you can write a note about that in lead section which is a good idea but those medals should be there since they awarded those medals. this is a rule in Asia for so many years (I think from 2006) and it doesn't matter if other zones do the same or not. and I can't understand what's the relation between those medals and Olympic qualification ! this is not a direct qualification tournament. and this article is about the Asian Championship and not the Olympic qualification. Mohsen1248 (talk) 13:32, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
I get your point about the medals. I didn't know and I apologise about attempting to "correct" these tables. My own point is that the article should explain that bronze medals are awarded to the 3rd-ranked team *and* the 4th-ranked team. As of now, it's impossible to know who is 3rd and who is 4th, which is important for FIE ranking and Olympic qualification. What I suggest is a short explanation in the intro (with a reference if it can be found) as well as top-8 rankings on the same model as 2015 European Fencing Championships#Foil team for instance. I can also add the detailed tables if I have the time. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:17, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Writing a note is a good idea, you can write the last bronze medalist (written in bottom) originally finished 4th. having more details is even better, I won't complain if you add them. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:23, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Result articles[edit]

Hi Mohsen. I've just noticed your previous nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 Asian Wrestling Championships – Men's freestyle 57 kg. I note that there was no discussion of the potential of merging those details elsewhere and the nomination was treated as keep/delete all. I think that's an important point that shouldn't be missing as the previous outcome appears to be setting a precedent going into Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Athletics at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games – Men's 100 metres and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pencak silat at the 2015 Southeast Asian Games – Women's 65 kg. Thanks! SFB 11:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, well I think for that discussion "deletion" was the best outcome. It was a third tied competition in wrestling (most countries send B teams to Asian Champs) and beside that those articles were poor since the scoring in wrestling is a little complicated and the writer didn't know that. As for the Southeast Asian Games, I am neutral here, but if I had to vote I would vote for merging as well. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:09, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Mohammad Mousavi (volleyball)[edit]

Hi there, you stated that my edit for Mohammad Mousavi's page was the 'wrong information'. I was simply stating this source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIVB_Volleyball_World_League#Best_blockers

As you can see it states that Mousavi's stats were the highest for the FIVB 2015 World League. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BardiaSaeedi (talkcontribs) 16:02, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

And in the same page you can read the "award section". he just led the stats which means nothing, they only give awards to players from top 4 teams. 16:49, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Thanks for explaining BardiaSaeedi (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion[edit]

Hey, greetings. I would like you take a look at this article for deletion, because you have participated before in such discussion. Thanks in advance for considering giving us your best opinion. Osplace 13:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Can you please vote here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandra Botezat and Template:Italy Girls Squad 2015. --Osplace 22:13, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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نظر[edit]

سلام، آقا دلیل برچسب به مقاله زیر چیست؟ -داشتن مدال آسیایی واسه سرشناسی کافی نیست. برخی کشتی گیران هیچ مدالی تو مسابقات اروپایی و آسیایی ندارند ولی دارای مقاله؟ منکه منبع هم فراوان گذاشتمSaməkTalk 12:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)Younes Sarmasti

واقعا این دوگانگی در برخورد با مقالات ایرانیان برای من جای سوال دارد. طرفی که خارجی و اهل مغولستان هست با همین برنز آسیایی مقاله دارد در صفحه بحث یونس سرمستی نوشتم به مقاله ایشون گیر نمیدن ولی به مقالات ایرانیان گیر میدن. مثلا پیمان یارمحمدی که قهرمان آسیا شده است اگر مقالش درست شه چون قبلا حذف شده است. همین برخورد مشابه را خواهند داشت. جالب اینست که این کاربر زننده برچسب حذف به مقاله سرمستی پس از سومی علیرضا کریمی در جهانی لاس وگاس بازم چونکه مقالش قبلا حذف شده بود بهش برچسب زد. بعد خودش عذاب وجدان گرفت اومد حذف کرد. حالا واسه سرمستی رو هم فعلا قانع شد.--SaməkTalk 13:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
سلام. یک دلیل توجه زیاد اینه که یک کاربر بطور فله ای مقالات زیادی درست کرد و همه حذف شد و طبیعتا دوباره ساختن همون مقالات حساسیت ایجاد میکنه. اما نکته اصلی این نیست. بهرحال در ویکی در بخش ورزش این توافق شده که در ورزشی مثل کشتی که آماتور هستش و معروفیت جهانی نداره فقط کشتیگیرانی مقاله شون ساخته بشه که یا در المپیک شرکت کرده باشن ، یا در مسابقات جهانی و بازیهای آسیایی (قهرمانی آسیا کافی نیست) مدال گرفته باشن. اون کشتیگیران خارجی که شما میبینید احتمالا همشون در المپیک حداقل شرکت کردن. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Template:Iran Squad 2015 FIVB Men's World Cup Player and Number is true?--SaməkTalk 13:20, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Asian Men's Youth Handball Championship for deletion[edit]

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Nomination of Asian Women's Junior Handball Championship for deletion[edit]

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Nomination of Asian Men's Junior Handball Championship for deletion[edit]

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1985 ABC Championship[edit]

I change the ref link from the wrong one you deleted in 1985 ABC Championship to this one:

Is that the correct template? Should I add more information?

AfD Help[edit]

Can you please help with this AfD? Osplace 00:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Moving players[edit]

Hi, could you please not move players as you are doing. There is no clear Romanization of Kyrgyz. With WP:RUS being the accepted standard for cyrillic on enWIki, it is best that we align romanisation, where possible. Thanks. Fenix down (talk) 08:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

so what ? I can't see why WP:RUS should apply for other ex-soviet countries ? in this case in wikipedia they use what's more common in English sources. Mohsen1248 (talk) 09:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
So why did you move Artem Mulajanov? The letter "e" in his first name is not a recognised romanisation of Kyrgyz in any of the three romanisation styles noted here, so the "sources" are wrong. You should not move stuff around simply because one source presented Romanizes in a certain way. Additionally the "e" = "ye" is used on enWiki instead of accepted romanizations as an aid to pronunciation. Fenix down (talk) 09:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Can't you understand ? it's not romanization, English sources use this for him. in fact I should moved it to Muladjanov, this, this, this and they are all notable sources. Mohsen1248 (talk) 09:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Asian junior handball[edit]

Hey, without having a chance to look at the articles, i think it's not different than any other youth/junior handball article (Europe e.g.). You can contact an admin and ask him if he can move it to your userspace so it won't get lost. I did not see the deletion discussion or else i would have chipped in (after checking the articles of course). Seems a bit pre-mature to delete them (All that said without looking at any article) Kante4 (talk) 19:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@Kante4:, Thanks, Those articles were quite similar to this one Asian Women's Youth Handball Championship. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:43, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, looking at it, there is no way it should have been deleted. You can name me as a supporter if you want, if you start a discussion about it somewhere. Kante4 (talk) 19:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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Filipe Oliveira (footballer, born 1995)[edit]

I noticed that you moved page Filipe Oliveira (born 1995) to Filipe Oliveira (footballer, born 1995) -- per WP:NCSP it appears the proper rename should be Filipe Oliveira (footballer) as there is no need to disambiguate based on the year. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think so because the only article with this name Filipe Oliveira is also a footballer. Mohsen1248 (talk) 22:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
A yes, you are correct. A WP:HATNOTE might be appropriate on the primary topic. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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Rouzbeh Cheshmi (football)[edit]

Please change the page name back to Roozbeh Cheshmi, which is the correct spelling of his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.57.96.11 (talk) 16:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Help[edit]

Hey, do you have info/results for Water Polo at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Asian qualification? Only have a livescore link but that is delayed a day if there is any info at all. Nothing on the official asian site... This helps a bit. Kante4 (talk) 10:15, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, unfortunately Iranian sources only publish Iran results and Iran has a bye today. Mohsen1248 (talk) 12:17, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks anyway. Don't get what is so hard to publish results on official site(s)... Kante4 (talk) 12:36, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Welcome to Asia ! Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:47, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Africa is the same, sadly... frustrating. Kante4 (talk) 20:34, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Men's Football of 2014 Asian Games[edit]

Hello, I just seen your contribution for the page of "Men's Football of 2014 Asian Games". Thank you for your hard work, however, if only consider their points earned, it's not fair for the teams who were drawn in a three-teams' group, because they can't played one more match than the teams who were drawn in a four-teams' group. Please consider this carefully, thank you. Younis7435 (talk) 02:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

This is what you think, but the official website used their own way for the ranking. Mohsen1248 (talk) 11:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Futsal[edit]

"medal count" isnt "Performance by nations" — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllFutsal (talkcontribs) 21:37, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

This is exactly the same table, btw why you think you can create multiple account ? Mohsen1248 (talk) 21:39, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Futsal Table[edit]

classification in General statistics is common and correct by points in sports table (not alphabet). for alphabet you can click on !style="width:25%;"|Team and automatic clasify in alphabet. thanks i havent multi account but rename because wiki account policy attention that i recieved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllFutsal (talkcontribs) 09:22, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

yeah sure, what about all those sock accounts I reported myself and got blocked ? you need a reminder "Amoli" ? Mohsen1248 (talk) 21:59, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

what is amoli and what your mean from sock? sock? clothes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllFutsal (talkcontribs) 22:45, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Asian Armwrestling Championship[edit]

what is your problem? are you a wikipedia owner ?

Someone who stands against vandalizers, and sockpuppets, those who ruin wikipedia by creating nonsense articles, who blocked you so many times before. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

you waste my time. are u understand? nonsense articles? hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhha haha . world Armwrestling Championship article is exist . you dont know anything about sports . you have Hollow claims

you are vandalizer and Barriers to improve the labeling you are intruder that compelte articles. you are Anti-change and anti improvement. dont change my articles. dont waste my time. go to yours incomplete and nonsense articles.

I seem to have unintentionally duplicated the spi here. Sorry, but thanks for dealing with this disruption. GABHello! 17:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Socks[edit]

Hi! First, thanks for dealing with all those socks, and sorry for all the abuse. As for Peng-yu3, I'm not entirely sure how the master is پارسا آملی, since the socks were all confirmed to Rowingasia as a master. I wanted to check with you before changing it, but I will go ahead and do it if you have no objection. Thanks, GABHello! 20:04, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

@GeneralizationsAreBad: That's OK, not a big deal, and I see why you are not so sure about it but I am, as I follow this sock for a long time and I know his behavior. as you can see he didn't attack anybody else personally but me. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
OK, no problem. I looked at the other SPI, and I think you're right. We should probably ask a clerk to merge cases, then. GABHello! 20:11, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

noinclude[edit]

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Articles for deletion[edit]

Dear friend, Ive nominated some Iranian volleyball players pages for deletion because of notability, please attend the discussion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasoul Najafi thanks. Tomcat313 (talk) 18:15, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Braxton Stone[edit]

Can I ask why you moved this article from Braxton Stone-Papadopoulos? All the news sources I'm finding for her state her name is Stone-Papadopoulos. Tabercil (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe because when I googled about her name months ago when I moved the article it was more Braxton Stone, that's no big deal, you can move it back if you feel that's the correct/more common one. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:00, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
btw I just did the move myself. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:07, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Naming conventions[edit]

Hi Mohsen1248, thanks for adjusting all the newly created biographies to the correct title. Great work and always verry fast! As I create many of them I feel guilty. As you are much more experienced in it than I am, can you give me some extra tips so I can do it while creating. The few things I know

  • For some Asian country family name first: China, North and South Korea, Taiwan. But also Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore? Are there more.
  • For some countries: Familyname Firstgivenname-secondgivenname, Like North and South Korea and Taiwan. Also Hong Kong? Other countries
  • Of most of the People with 2 given and Two family names: Firstgivenname Firstfamilyname, but for Brazil: 1stgivenname Last family name.

Thanks if you can give me some things to look at :) Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 19:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sander.v.Ginkel: Hi, you are welcome, I studied naming system in almost all Asian countries. and some non-Asian countries. beside that I have a bit more information about Asian athletes as I created so so many Asian Games articles.
For China, both Korea and Taiwan you always have the surname first , then the given name but things are more complicated for Malay/Singapore/Hong Kong names. There are different formats for them because some of them are from Chinese origin, in fact you have to follow east Asian Chinese format for names with only Chinese words. something like Lim Heem Wei. but most of them have both a Chinese given name and a western given name. in this case they are mostly known by their western name. for example Terry Tay, his surname is Tay, his western given name is Terry while his Chinese given name is Wei An, in his country and in English sources he is known as Terry Tay.
Brazilian names are more complicated, I have no fixed formula for them, I usually just google the name to see what name Brazilian websites use for that person. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:34, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Shooting at the 1986 Asian Games[edit]

Hello, this message concerns the edit I made to the Shooting at the 1986 Asian Games page concerning "Min Young-sam" or "Min Yeong-sam" as you changed it to. I had changed it to Min Young-sam due to the fact that there was an article with the title, Min Young-sam. The athlete on the Min Young-sam page has participated in the shooting event at the 1986 Asian Games. QWER11296 (talk) 20:26, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


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Proposed deletion of Dana Haidar[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Nations at the 2013 Asian Youth Games[edit]

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Asian Games template[edit]

I saw you reverted my edits, perhaps you can helps me with the issue I was having instead. I converted Template:Infobox Asian Games Israel to the country at games template because no matter what I did I couldnt get the medals table to show. The medals should be shown on the template, its kind of an important aspect of it. Can you fix it to get them to show, because I couldnt? - GalatzTalk 19:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind they are showing now, they werent before, weird - GalatzTalk 19:27, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

نتایج تیم ملی[edit]

بازی های رسمی فیفا در سایت فیفا موجوده. لطفا اطلاعات رو ویرایش نکنید. مسابقات المپیک قدیم تا سال 1992 طبق تصمیم فیفا جزو بازی های رسمی محسوب میشه. بازی های رسمی ایران و غیر رسمی دقیقا در این لینک های ادامه مشخصه.

لینک بازی های رسمی در سایت فیفا به تفکیک سال:

http://www.fifa.com/live-scores/teams/country=irn/men/matches/index.html

لینک کل بازی های ایران شامل بازی های رسمی و غیر رسمی

http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/iran-intres.html

این لینک ها در منابع این صفحه هم اومده و اصلا مقاله با توجه به اون ها بوجود اومده. در مجموع هم اگر بازی رو رو بعنوان بازی رسمی قبول ندارید فقط باید شماره بازی رو بردارید و اون بازی غیر رسمی برای اطلاع باید حفظ بشه و کلا پاکش نکنید. گرچه بازی های المپیک ایران قطعا رسمیه و شک نکنید. سه المپیک و 9 بازی انجام شده که اشتباها توسط شما حذف شده. بازی های مقدماتی المپیک رسمی نیست ولی خود بازی های المپیک رسمی هست Salazar67 (talk) 12:09, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

اول بهتر هست که در ویکیپدیای انگلیسی فقط انگلیسی نوشته بشه. دوم اینکه کلیت اون پیج و پیجهای مشابه رو خودم درست کردم و ریز و درشت نتایج و رسمی بودن یا نبودن بازیهارو میدونم. سایت فیفا نتایج بازیهای رسمی و تمام تورنمنتهای تحت نظر فیفا رو در سایتش اورده ، مثلا اگر سال 2010 رو چک کنید نتایج فوتسال و فوتبال ساحلی هم هست ، حتما میخواید اونها رو هم تو این پیچ بیارید ؟
در مورد اینکه نتایج بازیهای غیر رسمی نباید پاک بشه من هم موافقم و در واقع اونها رو پاک نمیکنم بلکه چون پیج همین الان خیلی بزرگ شده پیج مجزایی برای بازیهای غیررسمی آماده میکنم که هنوز کامل نشده و لینک موقتش رو اینجا میذارم
User:Mohsen1248/sandbox7 Mohsen1248 (talk) 13:30, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

مغلطه نکنید. فوتبال با فوتسال و فوتبال ساحلی کاملا متفاوته.تا سال 1992 فوتبال المپیک با تیم های بزرگسالان انجام میشده و تیم ایران هم کاملا اماتور بوده تا حدود سال 2000. اگر شما قصد دارید المپیک رو حذف کنید باید بازی های آسیایی رو هم حذف کنید و عملا چیزی از بازی ها نمی مونه. پس به فیفا که مرجع رسمی تشخیص بازی های رسمیست احترام بگذارید Salazar67 (talk) 13:53, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


در مورد بازی های رسمی های رسمی و غیر رسمی هم به این ترتیب هست که بازی های جام جهانی و جام ملت های آسیا کاملا رسمی هست. بازی های المپیک تا 1992 که تیم های بزرگسالان شرکت می کردندرسمی هست و بعد از اون غیر رسمی. مقدماتی جام جهانی و جام ملت های آسیا رسمی هست.مقدماتی المپیک غیر رسمی هست.بازی های آسیایی تا سال 1998 که تیم های بزرگسالان شرکت می کردند رسمی هست و بعد از اون غیر رسمی. در مورد تورنمت های دوستانه و رسمی ملاک فیفاست که معمولا بازی با تیم های منتخب و امید و المپیک رو غیر رسمی حساب می کنه. بازی با تیم های باشگاهی غیر رسمیست و بازی با تیم های ب اگر نام رسمی ان تیم ب نباشد، رسمی محسوب می شود. تفاوت این موارد رو براحتی در لینک فیفا می بینید. مثلا بازی های مقدماتی المپیک در لینک نیامده اما المپیک امده و سایر بازی های غیر رسمی و رسمی رو هم میتونید بررسی کنید که کاملا مشخصه در لینک فیفا بازی های غیر رسمی نیامده. Salazar67 (talk) 14:00, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

شما مثل اینکه اصلا دقت نمیکنید منظور من چیه !! فیفا تمام نتایج تورنمنتهای زیر نظر خودش رو میاره. چه المپیک باشه ، چه جام جهانی جوانان باشه ، چه فوتسال باشه. علاوه بر اون لینک بازیهای رسمی تیمهای ملی رو هم میاره. اینکه مسابقه ای در لینک فیفا باشه با توجه به توضیحی که دادم دلیلی بر رسمی بودنش نیست. مسابقات المپیک برای آماتورها بوده و فقط بازیکنان آماتور شرکت میکردن. در حالیکه بازیهای آسیایی محدودیت نداشته و هرکسی میتونسته شرکت کنه. همین که فیفا مسابقات انتخابی المپیک که زیر نظر خودش نبوده رو منظور نکرده نشون میده که کلیت مسابقات بازی ملی رده آ محسوب نمیشه. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

در مسابقات المپیک بنا به قوانین مسابقات تیم های آماتور شرکت می کردند. حالا یک سری از کشورهای حرفه ای دو تا تیم داشتند. یک تیم حرفه ای که به مسابقات رسمی فیفا می رفته و یک تیم آماتور که به مسابقات المپیک می رفته. کشورهای دیگری که اکثرا در شرق دنیا بودند و ایران هم جزو اون هاست، حرفه ای گری در فوتبال نداشتند و تیم آماتور و حرفه ایشون در واقع یکی بوده این کشورها مسابقات رسمیشون تا زمانی که تیم جداگانه ای با نام آماتور نداشتند جزو مسابقات فیفا براشون منظور شده. لیست بازی های ملی و گل ملی بازیکنان هم بر همین اساس تنظیم شده. مثلا اگر صفحه مشابه بازی های ملی اسپانیا و یا امریکا رو در ویکی پدیا ببینید اون ها هم به همین شیوه عمل شده. در لیست بازیهاشون تا دهه 60 میلادی که حرفه ای گری نداشتند نتایج تیم اماتور رو رسمی ثبت کردند و بعد از اون رو که دو تیم جداگانه داشتند ثبت نکردند. حالا من تا زمانی که متن دقیق فیفا در این مورد رو پیدا نکنم تغییری نمیدم. ولی در مجموع شما ملاک رو همون لینک قرار بدید. مثلا دیشب من یک بازی رو اصلاح کردم. مقدماتی جام ملت های آسیا 1984. ایران و سوریه با هم هم گروه بودند و تک بازی انجام شده در گروه(همه تیم ها یک بار با هم بازی می کردند). به دلایل نامعلوم بازی تکراری و دومی بین دو تیم انجام شده که بازی رسمی فیفا نیست و بعد از تمام شدن بازی های گروهی انجام شده. اگر لینک بازی ها رو ببینید متوجه میشید .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_AFC_Asian_Cup_qualification Salazar67 (talk) 15:55, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

این مثال رو نگاه کنید بازی های تیم ملی ایرلند ایرلند دو بار المپیک رفته یکبار 1924 و یکبار 1948 حالا لیست بازی های رسمی ایرلند رو ببینید

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matches_of_the_Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team

بازی های غیر رسمی جداگانه و با رنگ دیگری هست.

و بازی های تیم ملی ایتالیا که بخوبی ثابت می کنه چگونه باید بازی های ملی ثبت بشه. ایتالیا 15 بار المپیک رفته:1912-1920-1924-1928-1936-1948-1952-1960-1984-1988-1992-1996-2000-2004-2008

حالا لینک بازی های رسمی ایتالیا رو ببینید

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_national_football_team_results_(1910%E2%80%9329)

تا پایان سال 1952 برای این تیم مسابقات المپیک ذکر شده و بعد از اون که فوتبال حرفه ای شده مسابقات المپیک بعدی در مسابقات ذکر نشده Salazar67 (talk) 17:36, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

اولا که نیازی به لکچر نوشتن نیست و مطالب رو میشه مفید و مختصر بیان کرد. دوما یکبار دیگه تاکید میکنم که در ویکیپدیا انگلیسی فقط انگلیسی بنویسید که بعدا دیگران هم بتونن قضاوت کنن و بعد از این مطلب به زبان فارسی رو جواب نمیدم. سوما سایت جدید فیفا هنوز پر از ایراده مثلا بازی رفت فینال جام بین قاره ای بین ایران و الجزایر 1991 رو حساب نکرده و بازی برگشت همون مسابقه رو حساب کرده ! سایت فدیم فیفا که مرجع اصلی این اطلاعات بود بسیار بهتر بود و فقط نتایج بازیهای درجه الف رو محسوب میکرد اما لینک فعلی نتایج فوتسال و زیر 23 سال و المپیک و همه رو آورده و خیلی نتایجی که باید میاورده رو نیاورده. در مورد فوتبال المپیک هم وقتی ایران برزیل رو در المپیک میبره آیا میشه گفت که ایران تیم ملی برزیل رو برده ؟ مسابقه ای که محدودیتی داشته باشه نمیتونه بازی رسمی باشه. Mohsen1248 (talk) 22:03, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Volleyball message[edit]

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محمد رضا براری[edit]

سلام دوست عزیز مسابقات جام فجر یک مسابقه بین المللی بوده و مورد تایید فدراسیون جهانی وزنه‌برداری است در سایت فدراسیون جهانی نتایج مسابقات غیر رسمی نیست ولی نتایج مسابقه جام فجر موجود است و این نشان می‌دهد که جام فجر مهم است http://www.iwf.net/results/results-by-events/?event=359

يك مورد[edit]

سلام محسن جان، پسوند كيميا عليزاده زنوزي هست. اين فيلم را ببينيد پدرشان توضيح داده اند. تشكر--SaməkTalk 19:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

اما بهرحال اسمی که رسما ثبت شده زنورین هست. شاید بهترباشه یک توضیح در این مورد نوشته بشه. Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

World Weightlifting Championships[edit]

Hi Mohsen1248, at the moment I'm creating pages of the weightlifters who participated at the World Weightlifting Championships. I finished 2011, 2013, 2014 and 2015. I noticed you made a lot of edits to these pages of the World Championships and created a lot of the sub pages. I have two questions about that. 1) You created years ago the subpages of the 1997 World Weightlifting Championships. I found for this year only a PDF file with the results see here, that I can't convert to for instance XLS. Do you know how you got the data from 1997? Or do you maybe still have it? 2) All sub pages are created from 1997-2015 apart from the 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006 World Weightlifting Championships. Are you willing to create them? That would be amazing, I can create later the articles of the participating weightlifters! Thanks for your time, Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 19:57, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I have to check my archive but I made most pages based on that PDF file and this https://www.iat.uni-leipzig.de/datenbanken/dbgwh/start.php link], this database also helped a lot. this is for 54kg results. as for other years, I really want to create all those articles but I'm kinda busy these days and it takes time, when I create articles like this, I search for every single athlete to find the correct name. checking articles in his/her own language and etc. I will create them eventually, just don't know when. Mohsen1248 (talk)
Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes I understand it will take a lot of time. For the time being I created pages for all the recent World Championships like List of weightlifters at the 2006 World Weightlifting Championships. The names on these pages will be redirected to the names of the pages of the weightlifters. Thanks, Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 19:57, 9 September 2016 (UTC)