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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Monowi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ~~~~; this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! --AW 15:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Ed Hochuli[edit]

Thanks for reviewing this article and your kind comments! I have an autographed photo coming in the mail. Could I use that image freely? Thanks again. RyguyMN 16:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Tim Lincecum[edit]

I took care of the awards/accomplishments section. Also, thanks for the helpful suggestions. I was able to do most of them, and will put in some more work when I have more time. I've been looking for a better photo for quite awhile, but have had no luck. Hopefully one will turn up at some point next season. StormXor 08:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


Zodiac Killer[edit]

Thank you for reviewing the entry and the GA state. Your suggestions are great. I hope to incorporate them soon into the article. Happy holidays, Jimbonator (talk) 20:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Ozzie Smith GAN Review: On Hold[edit]

Good article on hold GA on hold — Notes left on talk page. Nehrams2020 (talk) 01:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


Notability of Cardinals Care[edit]

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Cardinals Care[edit]

I have reviewed the article and the talk page, and declined the speedy based on your comments as well as my own trivial search for <"Cardinals Care"> on Google News which netted 470 results - quite good. However, I have added a {{primarysources}} template to the article because right now all the references are from the Cardinals' official site. Although the amount of coverage in Google News means that secondary sources (write-ups of Cardinals Care by parties that are unrelated to it) are likely to be easily found, I felt that I had to add it as a reminder to you, the primary editor. (Your passionate defence of the article on the talk page is another reason why I'm addressing this to you specifically, instead of on the article talk page. ;-) ) Regards, Pegasus «C¦ 08:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Cardinals Care[edit]

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Cardinals Care, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Cardinals Care. Orange Mike | Talk 15:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Bolding vs. quotation marks[edit]

Thanks for your input on Ryan Braun. Tough week, what with holiday travel, but I will do what I can to respond timely. Quick initial question. You suggested that we remove the Bold type from “The Hebrew Hammer” in the introduction paragraph, and instead place quotations around it. My understanding from the closest example I can find, under WP:NAMES, is that -- as with Slim Pickens -- bolding is appropriate here. If you have a better source for a closer analogy, I will be happy to change from bold to quotes as you suggest.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Ryan Braun[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your help. On the Ryan Braun article, I have either followed (in the vast majority of cases) or responded to (in a couple of instances) your suggestions. Thanks much for your time and consideration.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Tx. I added the authors to over 40 citations, and think that I have now satisfied all of your criteria.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles January Newsletter[edit]

Happy New Year! Here is the latest edition of the WikiProject GA Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 04:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Roberto Clemente[edit]

Hello, I think that the requirements you pointed in this article's Good Article review have been addressed, thanks for your very complete review. - Caribbean~H.Q. 05:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter[edit]

The February 2008 issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is ready! Dr. Cash (talk) 05:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter[edit]

The March 2008 issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is ready! Dr. Cash (talk) 06:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

2005 ACC Championship Game[edit]

Thank you for the review, Monowi! I've taken your suggestions to heart, and will be using them before taking the next step — to featured status. Thanks again! JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Paul Stastny GA on Hold[edit]

Thanks a lot for your review. I think I've addressed all of your concerns, but one; I'm having some troubles rewriting the lead, I'm not sure how to do it. Anyway, I'd like you to see if there's anything missing or that you'd like to see improved to have this article as a Good Article. Thanks. You can see the differences here: [1]--Serte Talk · Contrib ] 15:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

User:GaryColemanFan was kind enough to expand the lead, the item missing.--Serte Talk · Contrib ] 16:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) --Serte Talk · Contrib ] 11:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

April GA Newsletter[edit]

The April issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is now available. Dr. Cash (talk) 03:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The Wizard[edit]

Thanks for the compliment on the user name, Ghostbusters is great stuff. The stuff in there about Shandor is classic. Anyway, I am just returning to Wiki after a 5 month hiatus, I will put Ozzie at the top of my to-do list. I just happen to be a huge Ozzie Smith fan, he's my favorite player from when I was young. Still a big Cards fan. Hope I can help. IvoShandor (talk) 19:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The whole process may take me a couple days so you're welcome to address what you can in the meantime. I am through the "Trade" section thus far. I am copy editing as I go along as well as conducting a thorough peer review. IvoShandor (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Peer review done, initial copy edit done. Have not edited or looked at the article's introduction yet. IvoShandor (talk) 23:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Take your time, of course. Thanks for the welcome back. I will be around for discussion and assistance about/with the article. You've done a good job with the article and don't be daunted by the review's length, it's not as much work as it looks like. :) IvoShandor (talk) 12:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


Fair use rationale for Image:90daysnumber26.jpg[edit]

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NYT article - Ozzie[edit]

Hey I might be able to get you that article for free, I have access to ProQuest, I just have to update my login info with the university, I will do it in the next couple days. Then I can email the PDF article. Also, I can't stop listening to that 85 LCS home run call, it's my earliest baseball memory (besides a passing memory of the 84 Series), I will never forget where I was and what I was doing at the ripe old age of 6 when Ozzie hit that home run. Digression over, I should be able to get your article for you. :) IvoShandor (talk) 12:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Haven't had a chance to look for this article as it involves me resetting up my account and downloading the software necessary to access the university's network, and I am kinda lazy on my days off. Sorry. I noticed you have been doing some work on Ozzie and making some notes on the peer review, I have them both watchlisted and have been checking in here and there periodically, things are looking good, looks like there probably some stuff left to do and look into but so is the nature of Wikipedia I suppose. When the article gets to a more "final" point I can look it over again and probably bring in some other outside eyes to take a look too. IvoShandor (talk) 08:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I have still been monitoring the progress on Ozzie, and watching it too in case vandals strike and no one else notices. Keep up the good work. IvoShandor (talk) 12:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter[edit]

The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Ozzie Smith facts[edit]

This article I found, http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2002/01/07/oz_hall/ , has a factbox on the side that lists Ozzie career rankings for Games Played, Double Plays, and Fielding % all at shortstop, which are missing from the statbox for career fielding on his page. But I'm hesitant to use the article as a reference because it's six years old and may no longer be correct, especially with a guy like Vizquel still playing. Do you think it's worth using? Timpcrk87 (talk) 03:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good articles newsletter[edit]

Delivered by the automated Giggabot (stop!) 01:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


Justin Tuck GA review[edit]

I'd like to withdraw my GA nom. There's too much for me to do by myself. I'll just keep the article updated. Thanks for the heads up though. --Endless Dan 12:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Pacers-Pistons brawl[edit]

Hi! You said at Talk:Pacers-Pistons brawl, "In addition, small changes, like citing the Associated Press as the author in current reference #44, were done incorrectly; ESPN.com is no longer listed as the publisher of the article like it should be." I think I fixed the problem here, but could you please double-check to let me know? Thanks. Bash Kash (talk) 20:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

British Bangladeshi[edit]

Hi there, I just nominated the article British Bangladeshi as Good Article, but there is no one to peer review with, because I am the only contributer to the article, so I was wondering whether you would view the article, there are no problems to the article and I think it is great so, please assess it to give a Good Article status, thanks! Moshin 18:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Ozzie Smith[edit]

In reply to your posts on wp:baseball talk, the article looks good. The only thing I believe should be worked on is the sourcing for the intro. Users do oppose for those reasons sometimes. Also, be careful about the post you made. The part about asking for support is borderline canvassing. Cheers.--LAAFan 21:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter[edit]

Sorry about the delay. AWB has been having a few issues lately. Here is the august issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 20:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Could you please kindly expand about Fishman in List of Early Edition characters? Thanks --Againme (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your answer. I'll try to work on it.--Againme (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
By the way, si tienes un nivel intermedio de español I can help you with a native level whenever you need. --Againme (talk) 21:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

WrestleMania XXIV[edit]

Thank you for finally marking it as being reviewed. I'm available to fix any problems with the article. iMatthew 21:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I've completed the review, thanks! iMatthew 21:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sunderland A.F.C. GAC review[edit]

Hey there, thanks for getting round to the GAC review, I'll get to the comments as soon as possible, and I guess I could ask someone for an overall copyedit. Cheers again. Sunderland06 (talk) 16:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I've adjusted all of the GAC review comments, but I'm a bit unsure on a couple of them, I've left Comment next to the said comments, but they're pretty minor. Anyway, I'm in the process of getting a copyeditor, so thanks for the great review. Sunderland06 (talk) 18:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Cheers a lot for the review, I look forward to working with you again. :) Sunderland06 (talk) 00:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Ozzie Smith PR[edit]

I apologize that I forgot to follow up on my promise to make some comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/Ozzie Smith/archive3. I think it looks very good and made a few comments there (wanted to let you know in case you did not see)/ Sorry, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 11:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

No Mercy '04[edit]

I've got your concerns. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Ozzie sidewalk.JPG)[edit]

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Userbox for GA reviews[edit]

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Best, rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 17:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Cardinals project[edit]

Thanks for the kind words. But really the project owes you more thanks than me. I've basically been a non-editor for about a year now, while you've managed to promote the Ozzie Smith article to FA (finally!) and are still continuing to work and edit. So really, thank you. While I may have started the project, your contributions have been a hundred times over more numerous and important than mine. I'm just pleased my small effort had lead to such big contributions by others. Timpcrk87 (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation[edit]

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 08:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Stan Musial talk page[edit]

I've left a fuller message there. Please reply at your convenience.208.120.7.152 (talk) 06:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't perceive that we're operating at cross-purposes here, and I hope you won't either. Your most recent Musial edits all look fine and sensible to me. I've added references for both the "lost '48 home run" quotes... both originally come from books, so perhaps even better refs can be added later.
I wrote about my 8/5 edits to the intro in some detail on the Musial talk page (explanation on July 20, edits on August 5). I hope that will help illuminate their premises and reasoning, and I'd be happy to explain further if needed. The intro's two main problems (as I saw them) were its style (phraseology, copyediting), and its emphases (there was more space devoted to his sandlot ball, year in the Navy and year as GM than to Stan Musial the actual baseball player).
I doubt you're unhappy about the statistical information I added to the Musial intro. As for the other edits, many other players with lengthier and more significant WW2 absences than Musial's (e.g. Ted Williams, Warren Spahn, Bob Feller, et al) have Wiki intros that mention their military service in passing, or not at all. The same goes for virtually all players' pre-MLB careers, except where compellingly notable (e.g. Daisuke Matsuzaka, Lefty Grove). Going by the examples of other players' articles, the athletic activity of their youth is generally not considered intro-worthy material, particularly since that period of their life is typically the very next item in the full article.
I hope you will be reassured to learn that I've been editing Wikipedia for several years, albeit under anonymous IP addresses. My reasons for doing so are simple. I've seen far too many situations on this site that have turned nasty and personal, and feuds that extended past the point of original disagreement. Over the years, my provider has naturally rotated my IP address, which minimizes the possibility of longterm, one-on-one conflicts. Also, I have no interest in building a Wikipedia profile or reputation (aspiring to an admin slot, amassing article reviews, commendations, etc.). There's nothing wrong with those ambitions, of course. I just don't have 'em. Since official Wikipedia policy prohibits bias against contributions by anonymous editors, the only major drawback to anonymity is that I'm occasionally obliged to explain my status and history, as I'm doing right now. I'm always ready to interact and collaborate with any Wikipedia user.
If you're curious to see other baseball-related articles that I have substantially edited (in some cases, over 50% of the text is directly attributable to me), you can go to Spahn, Cy Young, Rickey Henderson, Phil Rizzuto, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux, and others. If you're really curious (or incredibly bored), you can investigate the edit history of Rickey Henderson's intro, before I was able to streamline the prose and shoehorn in a lot of competing information to the other editors' satisfaction. I hope these articles will be to your liking, will soothe any concerns you may have about my editing ability or intent, and will generally mesh with your ultimate goals for Stan Musial's page.208.120.7.152 (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Musial cleanup[edit]

I've made a few edits for style, added a few references, restored a little text, and done some general polishing to the bottom half of Musial's page. Take a look when you get a chance. Thanks!208.120.7.152 (talk) 08:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

More on the Man[edit]

(cross-posted on User_talk:208.120.7.152)

Monowi-- Your paternal interest in my Wikipedia apprenticeship is misplaced. I've been editing Wikipedia for more than five years, and have never been unavailable to other editors. In fact, we're interacting right now! I understand that some editors prefer dealing with a username to an IP address, but I don't. What if I'd edited the page as "MusialFan1" instead of "208.120.7.152"? How would that have impacted your opinion of anything regarding this discussion?

You've cited WP:LEAD several times, Monowi. But many of your reversions haven't fit the criteria spelled out on that page. I'd appreciate if you took another look at it yourself. In particular, WP:LEAD instructs us to restrict introductory text to "concise overviews," "roughly reflect(ing) its importance to the topic." It also instructs us to "establish context."

Let's take "importance" first. WP:LEAD says the following-- "The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic." Thus, the inclusion of Stan Musial's high school baseball days and uneventful year in the service are out of place in a Wikipedia intro. Ted Williams' five years as a military pilot are dealt with in 10 words in his Wiki intro, then detailed later. Bob Feller was the first player to enlist; his years of service aren't mentioned at all in his intro. Warren Spahn fought in the Battle of the Bulge; no intro mention. Yogi Berra landed at D-Day; no intro mention. Wiki bio after Wiki bio of the 500+ WW2-era baseball players follow the same pattern. Their leads omit this information, but you keep reinserting Stan Musial's time at the Philadelphia Navy Yard into the second paragraph. Is this according to WP:LEAD?

In a similar vein, other than your own Ozzie Smith text, I can find almost no examples of a prominent baseball player whose high school (and pre-high school) activity is highlighted in their Wikipedia introduction. David Clyde's intro emphasizes it, but that's because Clyde's fame is entirely predicated on the fact that he went directly to the major leagues from high school, and burned out doing so. Musial's fame doesn't derive from his teenaged years. Other than being switched from pitcher to hitter (which IS referenced in the intro), there's nothing unusual about his path to St. Louis. WP:LEAD states, "In general, the relative emphasis given to material in the lead should reflect its relative importance to the subject." And Stan Musial isn't remembered by history or the public as a former sailor who once attended Donora High School.

Next, "context." Your current revert has taken valuable context out of the intro, notably his rankings in various offensive categories at the time of his retirement. Musial is currently 28th on the all-time HR list, for example, but increases in power numbers have radically changed MLB's leader boards. It adds perspective to the reader to note that in 1963, Musial was 5th. You've also removed the two quotes by his peers that attest to Musial's reputation within the game. For the second time, your edits have wiped those quotes entirely off the page. Meanwhile, your revised intro now mentions Musial's 1969 HoF election twice, along with double mentions for his nickname, and his World Series wins. You've called the result the "last revision that had a decent lead section," but I'd like to hear why.

No, I don't "happen to like Nate Colbert," but the fact that one of the only two players in baseball history to hit 5 HRs was physically at the other one's doubleheader is certainly worth a sentence-- Colbert's Wikipedia page mentions the coincidence in an identical manner. It has to be more notable than Musial's nondescript 2,957th career hit, for instance, or his hoping to get his 3,000th hit at home (like every milestone player ever), or a non-historic 1-for-15 stretch in a 10.900-at-bat career (e.g. Musial began 1955 hitting 3-for-19, and began 1956 hitting 2-for-15). Meanwhile, you oppose the much-reported two-baseball incident that has made its way into numerous baseball books and websites (and which you mistakenly said was unreferenced).

Other references you've deleted include the box scores for the pair of games in which Musial had the Cards' only hit. Surely these are more useful Wiki links than another Lansche ref; also, both of the dates you've reverted to are incorrect. A POV alert: Musial didn't "spoil" either of the no-hitters, since his hits were mid-game ones. You've also removed useful context from the article, such as where Musial's consecutive game streak stands historically, or the context and aftermath of the 1957 All-Star voting.

We know that it's common for Wiki's editors to take a proprietary interest in certain pages or topics. Yes, Wikipedia policy advises against it, but I don't think it's so bad when it's done in a positive way. So I appreciate your stewardship of the Stan Musial page. However, I left fairly lengthy explanations of my previous edits on both the Musial discussion page and your talk page, and I asked you directly for specific objections. That I should get a username and learn how to someday improve isn't exactly the fulsome reply I was anticipating.

Therefore, I'm again asking you to explain why you feel the particular, specific text that's come and gone in your edits should have come, and should have gone.

I won't make any further edits or re-reverts until we've come to some consensus. Your obvious seriousness of purpose and interest in improving Cardinal articles convinces me that we will.208.120.7.152 (talk) 05:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Monowi. You appear to be back on the site more frequently after a quieter stretch. I'd still appreciate a response to the above set of concerns, before I resume editing in accordance with WP:LEAD and other Featured Articles for baseball stars. It appears there have only been 8 of those (unless you count Jim Thorpe), and I'm sure we can work together to make this #9. Thanks a lot!208.120.6.244 (talk) 08:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. I'd prefer not to interfere with the Good Article nom by making it "unstable" with edits, but you have not responded to my specific queries. Please do so. I assume you know that one of Wikipedia's behavorial guidelines is "Do not avoid questions." (WP:EQ) Thank you.208.120.152.75 (talk) 18:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Stan Musial[edit]

Hey! I came upon this article recently and was just thinking about how close it was to FA/GA quality and I see you're working on exactly that! Seriously good work so far (and on Ozzie Smith). One thing, those stat tables really should get deleted per WP:NOT#STATS. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, just letting you know this article is now on hold for GA status. Not much to fix, it's a very good article, though hopefully the fixes will take place quickly given how bad the backlog is. Wizardman Help review good articles 19:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Stephen Schilling[edit]

I have attempted to address your concerns.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:36, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

When you pass a GA don't forget to update the talk page templates.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

The Baseball Barnstar[edit]

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For incredible work on Stan Musial. I am awarding you this barnstar.KANESUE 12:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Bobby Kay/GA1[edit]

Thanks for reviewing this article. I have made some fixes to the article and left comments on the GAN page. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate you taking the time to review this article. It was unfortunate that your absence cut off the possibility of dialog during the review period, but I believe that the article has definitely improved as a result of the review. I have requested a Good Article Reassessment, which can be found at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Bobby Kay/1. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive[edit]

WikiProject Good Articles will be running a GAN backlog elimination drive for the entire month of April. The goal of this drive is to bring the number of outstanding Good Article nominations down to below 200. This will help editors in restoring confidence to the GAN process as well as actively improving, polishing, and rewarding good content. If you are interested in participating in the drive, please place your name here. Awards will be given out to those who review certain numbers of GANs as well as to those who review the most. Hope we can see you in April.
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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ross Perot presidential campaign, 1992/archive1[edit]

This was closed before I was able to address your final concerns. However, I have changed the article as you suggested. Thank you very much for your time.--William S. Saturn (talk) 16:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Stan Musial[edit]

Sandy G. left you this message - Has there been an image review? If not, please locate an image reviewer...Modernist (talk) 17:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Done thanks to DCGeist...Modernist (talk) 23:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Main page apperance[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on November 17, 2010. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 17, 2010. If you think that it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director, Raul654 (talk · contribs). If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! TbhotchTalk C. 06:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

March 2011 GAN backlog elimination drive a week away[edit]

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WikiProject Good Articles will be running a GAN backlog elimination drive for the entire month of March. The goal of this drive is to bring the number of outstanding Good Article nominations down to below 50. This will help editors in restoring confidence to the GAN process as well as actively improving, polishing, and rewarding good content. If you are interested in participating in the drive, please place your name here. Awards will be given out to those who review certain numbers of GANs as well as to those who review the most. On behalf of my co-coordinator Wizardman, we hope we can see you in March. MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 00:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Bob Gibson[edit]

Hey. Just thought I'd stop by and see how things are coming with this article. Hopefully I'll see it at GAN soon. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:56, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Population is now 1[edit]

It was on HLN this morning. Daniel Christensen (talk) 14:37, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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WikiProject Good articles (Participant Clean-Up)[edit]

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Sorry for having to send out a second message but a user has brought to my attention that a point mentioned in the first message should be clarified. If user's don't sign on this page, they will be moved to an "Inactive Participants" list rather then be being removed from the entire WikiProject. Sorry for any confusion.--Dom497 (talk)15:20, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - October 2012[edit]

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WikiProject Good Articles - Participant Clean-up (Second Call)[edit]

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WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - February 2013[edit]

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Good Article Nominations Request For Comment[edit]

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A 'Request For Comment' for Good Article Nominations is currently being held. We are asking that you please take five to ten minutes to review all seven proposals that will affect Good Article Nominations if approved. Full details of each proposal can be found here. Please comment on each proposal (or as many as you can) here.

At this time, Proposal 1, 3, and 5 have received full (or close to) support.

If you have questions of anything general (not related to one specif proposal), please leave a message under the General discussion thread.

Please note that Proposal 2 has been withdrawn and no further comments are needed. Also, please disregard Proposal 9 as it was never an actual proposal.

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre[edit]

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Hello! Now, some of you might be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:
  • Recruiters: The main task of a recruiter is to teach users that have never reviewed a Good article nomination how to review one. To become a recruiter, all you have to do is meet this criteria. If we don't get at least 5-10 recruiters to start off with, the Recruitment Centre will not open. If interested, make sure you meet the criteria, read the process and add your name to the list of recruiters. (One of the great things about being a recruiter is that there is no set requirement of what must be taught and when. Instead, all the content found in the process section is a guideline of the main points that should be addressed during a recruitment session...you can also take an entire different approach if you wish!) If you think you will not have the time to recruit any users at this time but are still interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still add your name to the list of recruiters but just fill in the "Status" parameter with "Not Available".
  • Co-Director: The current Director for the centre is me (Dom497). Another user that would be willing to help with some of the tasks would be helpful. Tasks include making sure recruiters are doing what they should be (teaching!), making sure all recruitments are archived correctly, updating pages as needed, answering any questions, and distributing the feedback form. If interested, please contact me (Dom497).
  • Nominators, please read this: If you are not interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still help. In some cases a nominator may have an issue with an "inexperienced" editor (the recruitee) reviewing one of their nominations. To minimize the chances of this happening, if you are fine with a recruitee reviewing one of your nominations under the supervision of the recruiter, please add your name to the list at the bottom of this page. By adding your name to this list, chances are that your nomination will be reviewed more quickly as the recruitee will be asked to choose a nomination from the list of nominators that are OK with them reviewing the article.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. I look forward to seeing this program bring new reviewers to the Good article community and all the positive things it will bring along.

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DYK RfC[edit]

  • As a listed GA participant, you are invited to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the question of whether Good Articles should be eligible to appear in the Did You Know? slot in future. Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Thank you in advance. Gilderien Chat|Contributions02:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Bob Gibson GAN?[edit]

Hi. I reached Bob Gibson and I'm impressed with its quality, and slightly bummed that it's not a GA. Since you performed most of the work, it's only right that you nominate it. I see you haven't edited in a month, but I hope you return and get Gibson to GA! (We keep track of HoF and other important baseball biographies at User:Muboshgu/Baseball Mountain.) – Muboshgu (talk) 19:10, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

GAN December 2013 Backlog Drive[edit]

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Hello! A GAN Backlog Drive will begin in less than 4 days!

In past Backlog Drives, the goal was to reduce the backlog of Good article nominations. In the upcoming drive, another goal will be added - raising as much money as we can for the Wikimedia Foundation. How will this work? Well, its pretty simple. Any user interested in donating can submit a pledge at the Backlog Drive page (linked above). The pledge should mention the amount of money the user is willing to donate per review. For example, if a user pledges 5 cents per review and 100 nominations are reviewed, the total donation amount is $5.00.

At the time this message was sent out, two users have submitted pledges for a total of 8 cents per review. All pledges, no matter how much money, are greatly appreciated. Also, in no way is this saying you must make a pledge.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or leave a message on the Backlog Drive talk page. And remember, there are less than 4 days before the drive starts!--EdwardsBot (talk) 03:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

GAN December 2013 Backlog Drive[edit]

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Hello! Just a friendly reminder that the GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on December 31, 2013!

If you know anyone outside of the WikiProject that may be interested, feel free to invite them to the drive!

If you have any questions or want to comment about something regarding the drive, post them here--EdwardsBot (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive[edit]

It's that time again! Starting on March 1, there will be another GAN Backlog Drive! There will be several changes compared to previous drives:

  • This drive will introduce a new component to it; a point system. In a nutshell, older nominations are worth more points than newer nominations. The top 3 participants who have the points will be awarded the Golden, Silver, or Bronze Wikipedia Puzzle Piece Trophy, respectively.
  • Unlike the December 2013 Backlog Drive, earning an additional barnstar if you reached your goal has been removed.
  • The allowance to have insufficient reviews has been lowered to 2 before being disqualified.
  • An exception to the rule that all reviews must be completed before the deadline has been created.

Also, something that I thought I would share with all of you is that we raised $20.88 (USD) for the WMF in the December 2013 drive. It may not sound like a lot but considering that that was raised just because we reviewed articles, I would say that's pretty good! With that success, pledges can be made for the upcoming drive if you wish.

More info regarding the drive and full descriptions regarding the changes to this drive can be found on the the drive page. If you have any questions, feel free to leave a message on the drive talk page.

I look forward to your participation and hope that because of it, some day the backlog will be gone!

--Dom497

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GAN March 2014 Backlog Drive[edit]

The March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on April 1, 2014! Sent by Dom497 on behalf of MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good articles Future GAN Backlog Drive[edit]

Hello everyone! Hope you've all been having a great summer!

TheQ Editor recently proposed the idea of having another Backlog Drive in either September/October or November/December of this year. For those of you who have participated in the past two drives you know I was the one who organized them, however, come September, this will be my most important year in school so I will not be able to coordinate this drive (if it happens). TheQ Editor has volunteered to be a coordinator for the drive. If any of you would like to co-coordinator, please notify TheQ Editor on his talk page.

If you would be interested in participating in a Backlog Drive sometime before the end of this year, please notify TheQ Editor. Also, make sure to specify what month(s) work best for you.

At the time this message was sent out, the backlog was at 520 nominations. Since May, the backlog has been steadily increasing and we are currently near an all time high. Even though the backlog will not disappear over one drive, this drive can lead to several others which will (hopefully) lead to the day where there is no longer a backlog.

As always, the more participants, the better, and everyone is encouraged to participate!

Sent by Dom497--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

GA Cup[edit]

Hello everyone! We hope you have all been having a great summer!

As we all know, the recent GAN Backlog Drives have not had any big impact on the backlog. Because of that, me (Dom497), Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor have worked on an idea that could possibly finally put a dent into the massive backlog. Now, I will admit, the idea isn't entirely ours as we have took the general idea of the WikiCup and brought it over to WikiProject Good Articles. But anyways, here's what we have in mind:

For all of you that do not know what the WikiCup is, it is an annual competition between several editors to see who can get the most Good Articles, Featured Article's, Did You Know's, etc. Based of this, we propose to you the GA Cup. This competition will only focus on reviewing Good articles.

For more info on the proposal, click here. As a FYI, the proposal page is not what the final product will look like (if you do go ahead with this idea). It will look very similar to WikiCup's page(s).

The discussion for the proposal will take place here. Please let us know if you are interested, have any concerns, things to consider, etc.

--Dom497, Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles - GA Cup[edit]

WikiProject Good Articles's 2014-15 GA Cup
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WikiProject Good articles is holding a new competition, the GA Cup, from October 1, 2014 - March 28, 2015. The Cup will be based on reviewing Good article nominations; for each review, points will be awarded with bonuses for older nominations, longer articles and comprehensive reviews. All participants will start off in one group and the highest scoring participants will go through to the second round. At the moment six rounds are planned, but this may change based on participant numbers.

Some of you may ask: what is the purpose for a competition of this type? Currently, there is a backlog of about 500 unreviewed Good article nominations, almost an all time high. It is our hope that we can decrease the backlog in a fun way, through friendly competition.

Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors! Sign-ups will be open until October 15, 2014 so sign-up now!

If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the four judges.

Cheers from NickGibson3900, Dom497, TheQ Editor and Figureskatingfan.

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Precious[edit]

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Thank you, user "passionate about the Cardinals" and quoted by a US president, for quality articles on baseball players such as Stan Musial and Ozzie Smith, for project work and GA reviews, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1097 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)