User talk:Mttll

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January 20 Edit for Notability[edit]

You removed a prod tag for non-notability without submitting any references or sources at Just because someone is a politician, does not mean he or she is notable. If you think the person is notable, please provide reasons for it. Thanks User: AliAstar123 — Preceding undated comment added 14:48, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

User: AliAstar123, I don't need to provide anything to object to a PROD. Read WP:PROD. You, on the other hand, are not supposed to replace the PROD tag, but nominate the article in AfD now that you know there is objection. And if you must know, I think any government minister of Turkey is by definition a notable person. --Mttll (talk) 15:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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January 2015[edit]

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Statistical regions[edit]

Hi Mttll, I saw that you've created a series of articles about the statistical regions of Turkey. But the articles fail to explain what is meant by this concept. Besides the source link doesn't work. Can you expand the articles and add working sources ? Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:33, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I just fixed the links. These statistical regions are actually well-known among those who are familiar with the subjects, you can see NUTS of Turkey for its explanation. Unfortunately, geographical regions of Turkey are used in Wikipedia in their stead (which is not feasible, as the borders of the geographical regions do not overlap with that of the administrative provinces). I intend to fix this problem in Wikipedia. --Mttll (talk) 12:49, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Please do so without moving any existing articles. Use WP:RM if you must, but these statistical region articles will not usurp primacy from the geography articles. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
How did you conclude that the geographical articles have primacy? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I would just like to know. --Mttll (talk) 07:55, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Aegean Region for example was created back in 2006. It has 942 incoming links, none of which would be looking for the recently created statistical region article. It might be the case that it needs to be an ambiguous term, but you should request a move via WP:RM and establish consensus first. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about First-level NUTS of Turkey[edit]

Hello, Mttll,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether First-level NUTS of Turkey should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First-level NUTS of Turkey .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Vanjagenije (talk) 19:11, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Once again reverting[edit]

You are once again reverting me without giving any explanation why. For example, with this edit, you removed population totals, climate charts and images. Explain why you insist on removing information. The map of provinces is very helpful. Population totals are very helpful. Also, don't make a mass revert without talking to the person first. You need to stop thinking that you own articles. Bgwhite (talk) 21:22, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@User:Bgwhite, the climate chart was deleted by mistake. I'm sorry about that, and I have already restored it.
The maps of provinces and population total are incorrect. They are not at all helpful, but misleading. I thought you read my lenghty explanations in the talk pages? --Mttll (talk) 10:55, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


Right now, these maps are used in the article:

These maps are quite simply incorrect; the borders of the geographical regions of Turkey do not overlap with the borders of the administrative provinces.

This is the correct map of the geographical Southeastern Anatolia Region:


Since the geographical borders are imprecise (they don't overlap with district borders either), there is no convenient way to calculate the population of the geographical Southeastern Anatolia Region, or other geographical regions of Turkey for that matter. Any figure you see on the Internet in this regard is, at best, imprecise guesswork. I propose that we rank geographical regions among themselves and leave it at that.

Please tell me what you don't understand and I'll do my best to provide clarification. --Mttll (talk) 10:55, 4 February 2015 (UTC)