User talk:Musdan77

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Hey, you may be interested...[edit]

Hey, Musdan77 – you may be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#WP:DATERANGE ambiguity and stylistic concerns. IIRC, you prefer the "all 4-year" daterange format, so you may want to make your voice heard over there... Just so you know! --IJBall (contribstalk) 16:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Face-smile.svg Thank youMusdan77 (talk) 17:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Patricia Heaton[edit]

OK - let me ask you this...

When a sports team wins a championship, it is a collective accomplishment, but all the players, coaches, GMs, and owners are considered champions (example - LeBron James is considered a 3X NBA Champion, having won 2 titles with Miami, and 1 with Cleveland).

So when a show wins an Emmy for being Outstanding Comedy, aren't all involved credited with winning the award, as it was obviously a collaborative effort? That's like saying only Bob Kraft (owner) gets credit for the Patriots' 4 Super Bowl wins, and not Bill Belichick (head coach) or Tom Brady (quarterback) - you get what I'm trying to say?

Vjmlhds (talk) 19:11, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Vjmlhds, I understand where your coming from, but it's sort of like comparing apples and oranges. You may think that's how it should be (and maybe there are awards that do it that way), but that's not how it's done for the Emmys. And if it did, there still would need to be a source that backs that up. —Musdan77 (talk) 21:12, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016[edit]

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Your recent editing history at Israel Houghton shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:07, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

See Template talk:Infobox musical artist/Archive 12#Flatlist or comma separated lists?. Two editors specifically state "three or more" for flatlists, but the note words in the negative because enough editors stated that comma separated lists are more natural. As I stated: either take it up at the template's talk list, there are a few editors there who will side with you, or talk on the article's talk list, but don't edit war over your incorrect opinion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:14, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Walter Görlitz, when I saw that there was message from you, I thought that maybe you were actually attempting to have a discussion, but no, of course it's a warning -- which is pretty ridiculous because you know that it takes two to edit war. I could just as well have given you the warning. You know that I am not one to engage in revert warring (normally), but I figured as long as you were doing it, why shouldn't I. And, you know that it does little to no good to try to start a discussion on the talk page of an article that gets very few editors. That's when it's much better to discuss it on the talk page of the editor you have the disagreement with. But of course, I tried that in the past on yours, and I got no reply and my post was just deleted -- which is very insulting. In fact, I think that's one of the worst things an editor can do to another. And when that editor calls himself a Christian, that's even worse! Maybe you should take some time away from WP and read the Bible to see how a Christian is supposed to act like.
After looking over the discussion at Template talk:Infobox musical artist, I don't see how the note came out of that. The result was: consensus is that "flatlists should be used" -- not how many items for commas or flatlists. But, the bottom line to me is that an infobox should not contain two different styles (if more than 2 items). It looks bad and is just makes no sense. And the fact remains that, as I said, individual article consensus takes precedence over a template note. And the fact that you say that you "helped write" it, shows that you are biased against any any effort to do anything contrary to the way you want it. —Musdan77 (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Odd. I was thinking that about your opinions about editing the infobox. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:36, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz, that response makes no sense. And still no sign of wanting to cooperate and get along, and (maybe more important) admitting to wrong-doing. There actually doesn't have to be an admission of guilt to acknowledge that you have offended and are sorry. Even Donald Trump has done that - and I don't know of anyone who believes that he is a Christian. I hate to say it, but if it wasn't for your userbox, no one would really know by your actions that you are supposedly a Christian. We are not supposed to act like the world does. A Christian is known by his fruit (Galatians 5:22-23). —Musdan77 (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
I was thinking that you are showing page ownership. Local consensus is not a valid argument here as you're the only editor who wants it that way. Speaking of not cooperating, and since you tried to guilt me with scripture, I suggest you follow the plankeye principle yourself: Matthew 7:3-5. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
There can't be "ownership" by me when I was completely willing to work together, while you refused to change from the way you want it. And the scripture certainly doesn't apply to me because I obviously am willing to discuss on my talk page - unlike you. If you don't humble yourself and accept the truth, we won't get over this. As far as I know I have not wronged you, but you do know that you have. Even though I forgive you, if you don't change your attitude, we'll still have problems in the future. —Musdan77 (talk) 18:17, 20 August 2016 (UTC)