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Pending changes and testing[edit]

Hi MusikAnimal, I wasn't able to get the answers I wanted at VPT for now, and was interested in investigating a potential MW pending changes bug involving edit and review (specifically where an editor could review a page that he/she couldn't edit, with the (still unapproved) PC2+ECP PC2+TPROT the most likely offender) I could potentially test this myself at the test site, and I've also filed a request there (citing test, script, and dev reasons). Thanks for your help :) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 05:34, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

I've given you sysop rights on testwiki. I'd be surprised if the bug you speak of exists, but at least it won't be of much concern right now given we aren't using PC2 MusikAnimal talk 05:57, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Graph needed[edit]

Hi MA. I'm no good at this sort of thing so I'm wondering if you could make a logarithmic graph showing the growth of these stats and extrapolating where it will be by the end of the year. I believe even Microsoft XL has tools to do this but I wouldn't know how to go about it:

  • 13 July 2016: 7,000
  • 1 August 2016: 9,000
  • 7 August 2016: 10,472
  • 16 August 2016: 11,500
  • 28 August 2016: 13,158
  • 11 September 2016: 13,869
  • 15 September 2016: 14,154
  • 19 September 2016: 14,539

--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:52, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Kudpung: how does this look? MA may be able to whiz something better together though! -- samtar talk or stalk 07:22, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
That's excellent Samtar, thank you very much. In the meantime I was able to cobble something together in Apple Numbers, but of corse I'm unable to make a year-end prediction. Thanks again :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Bot Needed for Nepali wikipedia.[edit]

Hello MusikBot, I saw that this bot archive the talk page. Archiving is needed for nepali wikipedia also. Please run this bot in newiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:28, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Just to confirm the IP MusikBot only archives WP:PERM page. Normal talk pages are archived by ClueBot III or Lowercase Sigma Bot! VarunFEB2003 12:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-38[edit]

22:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Two ideas for your consideration, presented here without trepidation[edit]

I'm an admin Jim, not a poet!

  1. For RFPP response helper, reword the dr response from "Consider dispute resolution" to "Content dispute. Please use the article's talk page or other forms of dispute resolution"
  2. Regarding rangeblocks, I'm thinking of setting up a subpage in my userspace, outlining my thoughts there, and inviting others to join in. Is that a good place or is there somewhere else more appropriate?

--NeilN talk to me 20:38, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN: for #1 I updated {{RFPP}} here. For #2, are you referring to phab:T145912, or a guide to range blocking in general? MusikAnimal talk 21:27, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
The phab. --NeilN talk to me 23:35, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
@NeilN: I'm glad you asked... We (Community Tech) were actually chatting out technical requirements, and before we formally get into that it's probably best if we get input from the community on what they actually want :) So yes, if you want to start something up here on-wiki that'd be great! An on-wiki discussion seems favourable because not everyone has a Phabricator account. I wouldn't start an RfC just yet unless we find something requiring broader input. The need for a IP range contribs tool is pretty much shared by all of us, I think :) My hope is we can get all the requirements scoped out sooner than later, as the techy part might be a long wait MusikAnimal talk 00:14, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Okay, here's my plan. 1) Outline what we have, noting strengths and weaknesses. Outline what I think we need. 2) Invite the editors who posted to my talk page to comment. 3) Post to AN, "Hey admin who doesn't know how to rangeblock. Yeah you." to see if what we came up with would encourage them to start rangeblocking. --NeilN talk to me 00:56, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@NeilN: Sounds great! I really like #3. That's an excellent end goal: Not just make the range blockers' life easier, but to recruit more to do it when appropriate, and hopefully end up with a more stable wiki MusikAnimal talk 01:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

AFC Nathan Lee-Pianist[edit]

Dear Musikanimal, Could you please review draft: Nathan Lee? I read that you love music and I was wondering if you could help since AFC is backlogged. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musik092 (talkcontribs) 05:22, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

@Musik092: I honestly think it looks OK, but Nathan Lee has been deleted numerous times due to lack of notability, and underwent a formal proposed deletion debate that again resulted in deletion. The older version of the article also looked more well-rounded and better sourced. The only thing new I think is Nathan Lee won another award this past July. Maybe that's enough to make him notable... I think it meets criteria #9, Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. Others may disagree, perhaps those aren't considered "major music competitions". Any insight Randykitty? Hopefully you don't mind the ping MusikAnimal talk 05:43, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi (no problem to ping me :-), I don't have any strong opinion about this. I took it to AfD (based mainly on its twisted history, pretty straightforward) and implement the "delete" decision (G4) and then to protect it against recreating (also pretty straightforward given its history). I'm not familiar enough with this field to judge whether the additional award is enough to change the outcome of the AfD. I'd recommend to take this to WP:DRV and ping the participants at the previous AfD to see whether there is ground to overturn it. --Randykitty (talk) 07:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this! How do you ping the participants at the previous AfD? Is that something I should do? Thanks again. User:Musik092 —Preceding undated comment added 18:12, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

  • I have blocked Musik092 as a  Confirmed sock, along with Redabat (talk · contribs · count), Cieltohell (talk · contribs · count), and KoreanWon (talk · contribs · count). I have designated KoreanWon as the master, but my assumption is some of the earlier blocked accounts promoting Nathan Lee are related; however, they are  Stale.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:09, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
    Well, that makes this easier for me, I guess! Thanks MusikAnimal talk 21:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)


Hi! So I don't know jackshit about coding or javascript or whatever, but I tried to make sense of your code for More Menu and attempted this. It checks for personal js/css subpages and adds it to the userdropdown if it exists. I doubt it's of any interest to normal users but it is quite useful to me. Anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible for me to add this functionality from my common.js or something while loading the gadget, rather than me copying the whole of Moremenu to my userspace and doing this. I'm sure this is a waste of your time, but appreciate any pointers. - NQ (talk) 16:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@NQ: Could you not use Page > Subpages on their userpage and find it that way? Or is that too much work? :) To add your own submenu without copying over the full gadget, you could do all the AJAX stuff in your separate script, then build the markup and append it. So with this approach you wouldn't add your definitions to the userMenuList and show/hide them, rather only add them if the user CSS/JS is found. The code for adding the menu is in generateMenuContent. If you can't figure it out let me know, I'll try to help MusikAnimal talk 18:13, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Got it. I’ll give it a try and let you know. And yeah it is too much work, you try finding monobook.js/common.js at a glance on a page like Special:PrefixIndex/User:MusikAnimal ;) - NQ (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Heh, I was going to say just use your browser to search for the text ".js" but I guess I have 32 .js files :) MusikAnimal talk 18:56, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

User:Recent Helpful Contributor[edit]

Hi MusikAnimal,

I just wanted to let you know that this user: Wikipedian of the Year also appears to be the user whom you just recently blocked, based on them editing the other account's userpage. Please block, thanks. (talk) 03:19, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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Extended confirmed protection (also known as "30/500 protection") is a new level of page protection that only allows edits from accounts at least 30 days old and with 500 edits. The automatically assigned "extended confirmed" user right was created for this purpose. The protection level was created following this community discussion with the primary intention of enforcing various arbitration remedies that prohibited editors under the "30 days/500 edits" threshold to edit certain topic areas.

In July and August 2016, a request for comment established consensus for community use of the new protection level. Administrators are authorized to apply extended confirmed protection to combat any form of disruption (e.g. vandalism, sock puppetry, edit warring, etc.) on any topic, subject to the following conditions:

  • Extended confirmed protection may only be used in cases where semi-protection has proven ineffective. It should not be used as a first resort.
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Please review the protection policy carefully before using this new level of protection on pages. Thank you.
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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your work on the massviews tool, which assisted with the History of the Paralympics in Australia (HOPAU) Project. Well done! Much appreciated! Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:25, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you!!! This is a barnstar I don't have yet :) And I should give credit where credit is due, which is to mw:Analytics for their incredible work. Making Massviews happen was a team effort, for sure, but impossible without the work of Nuria, Hear, Elukey, and Joal (not sure if these people have SUL accounts but those are their IRC handles :) MusikAnimal talk 21:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


User has attacked User:WikiOriginal-9 twice in the last several minutes on WO-9's talk page. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 02:53, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2016)[edit]

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Help ASAP[edit]

My userspace is being vandalized can you ECP the whole thing or atleast semi-protect the whole using Twinkle P-Batch tool. vandalized my space and did it so beautifully it took me a minutes to find where he did it and revert it. It was visible on top of my talk! Two pages in my userspace are already protected - User:VarunFEB2003/Tools Lab and User:VarunFEB2003/Subpages. Moreover I do not want User:VarunFEB2003/Guestbook to be protected. You can protect all others with whichever protection you find appropriate (but it should be accessible to me!). If you can please protect my talkspace (including archives) also except my current talk page, User talk:VarunFEB2003/Programs Desk, and User talk:VarunFEB2003/Scripts Desk. Thanks a lot and help would be really really appreciated! VarunFEB2003 08:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @VarunFEB2003: Honestly, it was one edit that the IP made on your userspace, and that edit was hardly vandalism - it was more of a test edit, and an edit for which you wrote a "final warning" on the IP's talk page, with final warnings typically needing to be preceded by lower level warnings. What ever happened to assuming good faith? Unless I'm missing some history or backstory here, it looks like needlessly harsh treatment by you. If you want all your user subpages semi protected, just ask for it - policy is not crystal clear on that, as you know, and there might be administrators who are willing to do it. Asking for semi protection of your entire userspace on the basis of one edit that was hardly vandalism comes across as a bit thick to me. MikeLynch (talk) 13:32, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@MikeLynch: A while ago he told me that if I want my space protected I can ask for it. I worded my message a bit wrong what I actually meant there was I don't want any further vandalism in my space by him or others. Today he vandalized I take care of it by watching him but then tomorrow another IP will come and do the same thing so it will be difficult. I have over 100 subpages and vandalism is not easy to track. I needed a much better solution. I left him a lvl 4 warning because some while ago I saw some users do precisely the same thing when their user/usertalk space was vandalised, I don't remember specifics of I would have provided a diff. It was clearly not a test, he intentionally dug into transclusions of transclusions to do that because the page he did that too isn't visible easily unless someone searches for such a page. VarunFEB2003 14:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
I would really appreciate if you do it sir. Thank you VarunFEB2003 15:04, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
I agree with MikeLynch that protecting these pages seems mostly unnecessary, but ok... I've done all but the talk redirects MusikAnimal talk 15:22, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


Hi Musik, I'm not on IRC at the moment otherwise I would have bothered you there plus its a quick one I promise! {{blockcalc}} shows the number of affected addresses here to be 1G. Now I get that its a lot of IPv6 addresses which would be affected, but what exactly does that G stand for? It certainly ain't no Googol... -- samtar talk or stalk 14:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I assume a billion, as in Giga- (e.g. megabyte versus gigabyte) MusikAnimal talk 16:13, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Thank you for quickly responding to my requests for rollback & pending changes review. Enjoy this Monday morning cup of extra-caffeinated coffee. Safehaven86 (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I need more caffeine! :) MusikAnimal talk 16:11, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Rollback request[edit]

50 A lick from Holly
Thank you for approving my request for Rollback rights - It will be used with caution and respect!

Have a lick from my youngest Springer Spaniel Holly! Best wishes from Ireland Xyzspaniel (talk) 17:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-39[edit]

18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)