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Shannon Marie

I changed the name of my user page because THAT'S MY NAME!!! MY NAME IS SHANNON MARIE!!! Please respond, Shannon Marie (Avrilrox63)



I know no other way to contact you regarding the deletion of my article and hope this is sufficient. I would like a more detailed explanation as to why my article was deleted (not just the letter and number code given) so that I can correct or clear up any ambiguity. Please let me know ASAP so that I can correct the problem and contribute to this Wikipedia.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ConcreteCuring (talkcontribs) 16:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


Hello, I'd like to say that I think you've made a mistake when deleting an article about the band Rishloo some time ago. It may be true that the article had only one contriubutor, but that is not definitely a good way to measure article's notability. From now on, I'd recommmend you for instance to check the listener amounts from the service. Rishloo has 242,555 plays 14,338 listeners of which the listener-amount is the most easily compared to other bands. Anything over 10k listeners at definitely cannot be considered underground, and I'd say that even in some cases there may be reasons to have an article about a band that could be classified as underground. However, Rishloo is well established band and well known by certain music genre listeners.

My opinion about listening amounts: <10,000 underground 10,000 - 75,000 midstream (a big, well known band but who cannot have international tours as a main performer of the tour) 75,000 - 250,000 mainstream >250,000 "superband", the most popular bands in the world

I'd like to illuminate this with some examples, but I'm not really sure if this helps you at all because it simply might be that you never have listened even to any of the mainstream bands I listen to. It's just how the world works. :)

Examples of underground:
In Mourning 6,809 listeners
Secret And Whisper 4,757 listeners
The Project Hate MCMXCIX 8,417 listeners
Nahemah 4,231 listeners
Raintime 9,983 listeners

Examples of midstream:
Cult of Luna 67,451 listeners
Deadlock 28,094 listeners
Mercenary 32,716 listeners
Candiria 12,348 listeners
Burden of Grief 12,519 listeners
Rishloo 14,338 listeners
Maroon 33,929 listeners
Raunchy 25,873 listeners
Divine Heresy 19,777 listeners (ex-Fear Factory, and still so low!)
Bury Your Dead 46,742 listeners
Raised Fist 45,660 listeners
Stream of Passion 52,502 listeners
Scar Symmetry 53,280 listeners
Hatesphere 37,252 listeners
Zonaria 11,168 listeners
The Crown 25,691 listeners

Examples of mainstream:
Dark Tranquillity 200,686 listeners
God is an Astronaut 143,770 listeners
Katatonia 183,011 listeners

Examples of superbands:
Coldplay 1,834,021 listeners
Killswitch Engage 335,536 listeners
Deftones 599,345 listeners
Tool 710,243 listeners

One last note, I chose those underground examples so, that each of them have a wikipedia article and some of those articles are even on the track of becoming some fine articles. Br,

Finerion (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Kim Griffin

I think you have me confused, this is my page and i am wanting to be added, all criteria are met... you should reconsider ... we have added referances that should be suffice.. i am not kim griffin i am a friend, however i do think it is unfair not to include this. I apologise if i have caused any inconvenience.. heres kim on the world wide chorltle magazine website [1] thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mushmeister24 (talkcontribs) 01:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

  • That shows that she was in a college's standup comedy contest, along with many others. It doesn't show that she's notable. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Twin Helix - Problematic?

I was editing / submitting a company page to introduce into the wiki, and aside from being a company they have revolutionized the Silk Screening process; which is used quite often in the textile business. I was in the process of elaborating on their procedures when you DELETED the page. Their business model is profound and to be honest I believe they should at least have their name placed in the Wiki. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuphonicblue (talkcontribs) 21:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Utarian Party

It's not self-promotion. The Utarian Party (formerly America's Third Party) has been working and gaining popularity the last few years.

Birdsall Tool and Gage

Requesting a reactivation of Birdsall Tool and Gage Company article. If this article were to be compared to let's say the Deloitte article, it carries fewer references to the company services, or any other content that might be perceived as being used for commercial purposes.


I am sorry if I am writing this in the incorrect spot, as I am new to Wikipedia. I wrote an article about the band Boxbomb, and yes I am the manager, but I believe they fit the notability criteria, and I feel that my entry was unbiased. Can you explain what would need to be done in order to not have the entry deleted so quickly?--Mreklis (talk) 21:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
<a href="">INDY Weekly</a>, <a href="">ECU</a>, <a href="">Absolute Punk</a>, <a href="">Jersey Beat</a> (you have to scroll all the way down).--Mreklis (talk) 22:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Stereo Subversion notice that this review is written by a freelance writer who also has a published novel (noted below the review). Their most notable review is not available online, but was published in April 2008.--Mreklis (talk) 22:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Paste Punk. Can you also clarify why notable blogs are not considered notable? For example, Stereo Subversion features an interview with the band Broken Social Scene, which you can see is a very notable band. How is Stereo Subversion considered a "blog" and not a webzine? Aternative Press gave the band a review of 3.5 out of 4 stars in there April 2008 issue.

YES! Weekly --Mreklis (talk) 22:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

GIS Developer

<a href=""> was created to be edited into a GIS Developer wiki, by a GIS Developer. We're a pretty small community and all have a sense of humor. It wasn't an attack on GIS Developers, mostly because it was being created by them. No one really knows what the term means, and "A Polite way of saying, 'Goofball that makes map programs'." is a very good first sentence of an explanation. If you're not convinced, contact a GIS Developer and ask them.

Anyway, if you'd like to expand on the definition or write your own in the meantime please do, but don't just completely remove the page please.

Ubaka u rwanda

Hello I am new to wikipedia so forgive me if this is not correct procedure. I am the chair of trustees for "Ubaka U Rwanda" registered charity number 1126500 (you can check this on the charity commission website). One of my colleagues placed our charity and information about it here on wikipedia and as admin you have deleted the page. from what I understand your reasoning is you are questioning the value of the information shared. If it was poorly written or needed something included then please inform us and we will gladly amend the situation. I feel deletion was completely unnecessary - as I have said we are a registered charity and many charities have information pages here on wikipedia - which is very relevant and useful for those interested in the charity and it's work. I would be very grateful for a response. user ps702rs (Ps702rs (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)ps702rsPs702rs (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC))


Thanks for removing the semi protection on your page, because you are an extremely busy admin, you seem to often deal with enquiries from new editors about articles you have deleted etc. and they had no option to get in touch with you. You seem to already have a handful. May i suggest if your page does need protection for any reason, you ask East718 to have his bot look after your talk page. That seems to be the common sense solution. I assume its important not to block new editors out especially given how active you are on here and the work you do on here. Yours (talk) 01:08, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


improvements cannot be made if they cannot be discussed

trade onion

it's a common typo. I figured it could be useful to redirect. I guess i was wrong. sorry. Wilkos (talk)

Bull riding game and tokyo game?

hi nawlin i see you have deleted the bull riding game because there was not enough context ok i understand why it got deleted but just a quick question what about the tokyo game does that have enough? Oh and whats the perfect stub how many sentences? thank you --Furahong (talk) 03:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

University of Newcastle upon Tyne

  • Thank you for blocking the above it was getting really rather tiresome! Paste Talk 17:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Woah! Slow down, Tex.

Gimme half a second to warn the guy, wouldja? HalfShadow 05:25, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


You've got mail. JoshuaZ (talk) 05:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I applaud your efforts in reverting vandalism (over at Rococo but please be more careful next time as you only reverted the edits of one vandal and missed major vandalism by another IP. Str1977 (talk) 09:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Officine Carpi

ggurdian (talk) 08:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you have deleted an article I wanted to publish here. This company is important in the agricultural field as it innovated the spray mechanisms by creating a new application pump that has revolutionized how fertilizers and other pesticides are applied in third world countries all around the globe. Officine Carpi has been around for more than 40 years and has left a great mark in the agricultural field. (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User talk:Spbfh

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A tag has been placed on User talk:Spbfh, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on [[ Talk:User talk:Spbfh|the talk page]] explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Ironholds (talk) 15:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Woops, sorry about that; huggle is a bitch sometimes. Ironholds (talk) 15:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Esko Martinez

Someone keeps vandalizing the page and deleting the AfD template at the top of the article. Daz11R (talk) 21:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Soapy Smith

When you have a moment, can you take a look at my edits to this article and tell me if you consider them to be vandalism? Another editor seems to think so, and will not listen to reason. Thanks. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 00:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Lo Salt

You said this was AFD nominated by someone who was banned. Was the reason for their ban related to the article or AFD itself? If not, I see no reason to stop the debate. - Mgm|(talk) 01:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Removal from "List of project management software" page

Hello. You recently reverted a change that we made to the List of project management software page, when we added our project management application OnePlace to this page. Was it because we don't yet have a OnePlace page on Wikipedia that the page could link to, or is there some other criteria? We will be submitting a page for OnePlace to Wikipedia shortly. We are a legitimate competitor with many of the offerings listed on this page. Our online product brochure can be found at: Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riverock (talkcontribs) 14:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


you have just deleted a page of mine that i uploaded about the edinburgh university medical rugby football team and its close alliance with the university's medical school. why. it is not mythical. you have just wasted my time. Please get back in touch asap (talk

Talk Page Protected

The same rabble tried to roll by that has been visiting you the past few days. I protected your talk page once again. Feel free to lift it or let me know if you wish me not to do so.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 03:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for reverting the edits posted by other people. I go to a school and it's just my classmates messing around with the page. I would like to have the IP that did this blocked and maybe get semi-protection on my page is that is possible. If not, that's all right, I haven't been using wikipedia that much lately so I'd love it if people kept an eye on my page. Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 15:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey thanks man I owe you one. G'Day!--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 16:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Mike Piacente

Friendly question on your A7 deletion of Mike Piacente. Professional snowboarder seems to me to be a clear claim of meeting WP:ATHLETE, and I had previously declined a speedy request because of that. Something going on here that I don't see?--Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)



Through the Speakers

Hello. I wanted to know if the Through the Speakers article could be reposted if I included more info as to why the band is notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Exmalcom (talkcontribs) 04:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Through the Speakers

I Provided a reliable source through the bands label website. Exmalcom (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC).

Through the Speakers

okey doke. thanks :) ill post when the tour is finalized.

Exmalcom (talk) 05:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet Question

Hello there, I had a question regarding sock puppets (or something that may not be related to sock puppets at all). I notice that a certain User:Colossus252 created Colossus252, which was then speedily deleted. He then created another account, User:Thebeast519, and re-created the same article, which was then deleted again. Should this be reported immediately, or should it follow the same user warning process as if it was the same account? Thanks. TheXenocide (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the quick response! TheXenocide (talk) 06:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Arumn Gardpeck


Could you please restore the edit history of Arumn Gardpeck for me, assuming it was not copyvio? If you like, you can redirect it to List of Forgotten Realms characters. Thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 18:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 15:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

No content in Category:Dragon Ball Z soundtrack albums

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To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Category:Dragon Ball Z soundtrack albums, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 19:20, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman McGuire

Hi. You may be interested in this file: Image:Norman-mcguire-1.JPG. Although the uploader claims to have released copyright, I'm a bit dubious about it. I think it's likely that the uploader has not properly considered the copyright of this photo. - Richard Cavell (talk) 21:05, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

  • It's a Commons file -- I'm not a sysop there, so I can't delete it. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Yeah, you're right. I didn't notice that it was on commons. It'll likely become orphaned and deleted as time goes on. - Richard Cavell (talk) 04:37, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi. I saw that you speedied this. Would you like to visit WP:AIAV? I think the username and IP should be blocked. - Richard Cavell (talk) 04:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

It's done. - Richard Cavell (talk) 04:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

KDW Ruiner

This guy ruined the wiki article for KDW. End. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Amare Stoudemire entry in Template:2002 NBA Draft

Hi, could you update Amare Stoudemire's entry in {{2002 NBA Draft}}? The name in the template is a redirect, so it's causing a double re-direct from Amar'e Stoudemire to Amare Stoudemire and back. Thanks. --Mosmof (talk) 20:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Sunrise and Sunset


Could you please restore the edit history of Sunrise and Sunset for me? If you like, you can redirect it to List of Forgotten Realms characters. Thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 20:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again. :) BOZ (talk) 02:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

List of banks in Maine

since your a admin could you check out the list and decide whether or not to delete it? if you have any spare time on hand. ty --LimeyWig (talk) 03:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


Please, have the heart to "undelete" my poor Ninja Monkey article! You're an administrator! You can do something about that! I know it's not true and that it's just pointless rambling, but everyone can use a good laugh sometimes. Say you're really bored, right? Need a good laugh? Go to Ninja Monkeys. It's bizzare and immature, I know. But please, I need something, anything to keep me slightly sane. Thanks for reading.

-Bob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superbob55 (talkcontribs) 03:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Troy King

Can you tell me what triggered your action on the article Troy King at 15:17 and 15:18 on 5 December 2008? I am not complaining in the least, just curious as to who's after the article this time. The article has a history of attacks - from the subject's detractors trying to add improperly sourced material in violation of WP:BLP, to (apparently) his supporters trying to edit out properly sourced, and hopefully NPOV-presented, material that might be considered unflattering. (At least one editor has been banned for the latter.) The article is probably a good candidate for the most permanent protection offered. It just isn't apparent to my mere, mortal non-admin eyes what happened. Maybe you can send me an email of the latest episode of the drama. Audemus Defendere (talk) 06:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Bio issue

Sorry about that, do be honest I hadn't read the guidelines.. geoder101 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC).

Thanks for MP

Thank you for move protecting my Userpage; I thought about asking someone but I thought I might need to wait for it to happen a third time.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 14:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Over Ashes

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Over Ashes, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Over Ashes. Thank you. Schuym1(talk) 00:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Uzi move


Could you move the current dab back to Uzi (disambiguation) so that Uzi submachine gun can be moved to that page, please? That was the aim of speedying it. The gun is definitely the primary use, so belongs at the root page. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 20:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

  • All done. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
    That was quick! Cheers! :) Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 20:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Um. Where'd the talk page go? And who made the request?? I didn't see any discussion of this previously... Chris? Qu'est ce que? Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Talk page is fixed. Request was the above request by Chris. I'll be glad to move it back if consensus to the contrary is developed. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


The request to delete Bnuttsin2/FANET was a misunderstanding. It was content that was being preserved from a page in the article namespace that the user had inappropriately created to compose whatever he was working on. Well—I wouldn't have done that, but someone else had moved it to the user talk page, which really isn't the place for it, so to keep the good deed in effect while keeping the user's talk page clean, I moved the content to the user subpage. —Largo Plazo (talk) 04:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

  • It's still on his user talk page -- the page you created wasn't in userspace, because it didn't start with the magic words "User:". I'd ask the user first before creating a page in his userspace. NawlinWiki (talk) 04:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Oh, shoot! I forgot the User: prefix—that was the problem. I'm embarrassed. Mea culpa. (As for asking first, the point in these situations is to preserve the text before it's deleted. I don't mean to tell you what's what, since I know you know how things work here, being an admin and all, but that's what I've observed and it's also what I've done, and received gratitude in response from people who've done what I just did—creating an article namespace subpage when they had meant to create a user namespace subpage. —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


Please revert your speedy deletion of this article - you provided no reasonable explanation for the deletion and your link to the A7 criteria that is not meet is not clear. If you want to discuss this lets do it on the article talk page HAND Rm1507 (talk) 15:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Recreation of deleted article

Hi NawlinWiki User talk:CAROLDOSSETT has recreated Ann Dossett for the 3rd time can you block the recreation of this article thanks. BigDuncTalk 19:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

It's 4 times now. BigDuncTalk 19:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Hoaxer back at it

Someone you previously warned, 2fast2furious1 (talk · contribs), has created a series of hoax articles. I left him a warning and tagged the first for CSD (if that one (Young Murk) is deleted, the rest (Hood Election, Im Here (album), International Tracking (album)) will be easy). Just a heads up. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 02:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Modem protection until March 2009?!?!?

Don't you think that's a bit extreme? I can understand the protection, but a few days would have been sufficient.  ;-) Why three months? ---- Theaveng (talk) 19:11, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

User:NawlinWiki/List of things that will get speedily deleted

NawlinWiki, one of your userpages (User:NawlinWiki/List of things that will get speedily deleted) has been nominated for deletion by Proactive primrose (talk · contribs). The discussion is located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:NawlinWiki/List of things that will get speedily deleted. Cunard (talk) 22:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Why I hate Speedy Deleters

Hi Nawlin, I wrote an essay the other day that has been well received at WT:RfA and WP:CSD, I was hoping that you might take a look at it an give me your thought on it?---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 05:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey there Nawlin, I was wondering if you've had a chance to review this essay or not? And the associated ones that I cite in it about some CSD reviews that I've been doing? If so, I'd like to talk to you about your CSD Practices.---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 17:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes, I saw it, and I understand that we have differences of opinion on articles such as Sandwichmas. I think I probably tend to interpret WP:SNOW a little more liberally than you do. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Sandwichmas is just the latest example. I've been doing several surveys of deleted materials and it has basically reached the point where I dread looking at your deletions because they do not comply with current policy/guidelines. There is zero harm in leaving an article like Sandwichmas around for a week (tagged for deletion) and it gives people a chance to salvage it if it is real. G1 explicitly excludes excludes poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, vandalism, fictional material, material not in English, poorly translated material, implausible theories, or hoaxes. G3 also doesn't apply, because it isn't obvious vandalism (in the form you deleted.)
But one of the worse things, however, is deleting an article after another admin has deemed it not to be a speedy candidate. This encourages CSD taggers to adminshop and undermines the entire process. If another admin has rejected a CSD request, it shouldn't later be deleted (with the exception of a COPYVIO or BLP VIO.)
Citing SNOW to delete everything is not a valid utilization of IAR/SNOW. We have policies and guidelines for a reason, SNOW (which is an essay) does not trump those policies/guidelines. Careless and hasty CSD'ers do just as much damage to the project, if not more, than the vandals they are fighting. If you spend any time at RfA these days, you'll notice that CSD'ers find it extremely difficult to become Admins because they are not getting the proper training, and the general fear/dislike of hasty deleters. CSD'ers have a real bad image around the community precisely because of this type of behavior. As an admin, you should be adhereing ot the policies and guidelines and educating people on what the proper course of action is. You should be training others in what should be and shouldn't be deleted, not deleting everything that comes accross your plate. By deleting everything and routinely ignoring policy, you make it harder for future CSD'ers.---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 17:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Peter Tobin

Was it intentional to delete this again, after you had restored and protected it? Jheald (talk) 12:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

  • No, totally unintentional, fixed now, thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 13:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Tough Crowd This Month: You Need A Hug

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It's always great to see someone keep their sense of humor while being pounded. ;o) digitalmischief (talk) 13:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I second that! Thanks for the prots on those pages by the way. I doubt the residents of LL would be that interested in reading about an obscure little vandal hunter like myself :P.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


Hello! Thank you for the reverts in my user and talk page. Can you please protect them from the constant vandalisation? It appears that some POV-pushers are annoyed by my contribution in 2008 Greek riots that is "In The News". Thank you!!--Michael X the White (talk) 19:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!--Michael X the White (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Could you have a look

Hi NawlinWiki is it possible you could have a look at Join the Impact an new editor User: Wingfilee has listed this article for deletion and the only edits this editor has made are to add the template and list the article at AfD, I am a little suspicious and I feel it is vandalism/disruption, thanks. BigDuncTalk 20:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

  • I agree it's suspicious, but I think it'll be better for the article to have the AFD discussion (which will most likely result in a Keep vote). Author has nominated two other articles for AFD; those are a little closer cases. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Possible sock as reverting an editor on a couple of articles too BigDuncTalk 20:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


Could you unprotect {{Db-vandalism-notice}} and {{Db-attack-notice}}? I'd like to add an additional parameter "nothanks=yes" to the substituted {{db-notice}} template in them, per the request at WT:CSD#Changes?
They suffered from the same vandalism {{db-bio-notice}} did, which you unprotected following my last request.
Thanks & Cheers, Amalthea 22:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Both reduced to semiprotect, go for it. NawlinWiki (talk) 22:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks. :) --Amalthea 22:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Question about User:NawlinWiki/List of things that will get speedily deleted

Hi NawlinWiki, I know you do a lot of good work with CSDs, especially the ones that I tag :)

I'm trying to really understand the criteria better. I got it so that almost all mine are not rejected, but I also follow up to see if the admin agrees with my criterion.

Anyway I've a question about the little effective list you put together. For the 6th one down, what criteria does that go under?

A word you just made up, especially if it "means whatever you want it to mean." See WP:NFT and WP:NEO.

I hate having to prod (or AFD) Wikipedia:NEOs, but I also want to have the right criteria too.


--Omarcheeseboro (talk) 13:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Liam Bailey

Hi there. Just letting you know that when you closed this AFD you redirected to The Accidental (a novel), not The Accidental (a band). Nevermind, I'm sure this was "accidental" on your part - ho ho ho, see what I did there?! No worries, I've fixed it anyhow. Thanks! sparkl!sm hey! 16:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

A Second Life

Hi there, I'm Mononomic, and I'm the one who originally nominated A Second Life for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/A_Second_Life). I was wondering if we could protect this page from creation now that someone has tried to make it again. Is this a reasonable request? Thanks for your time. Mononomic (talk) 20:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Brockmans Gin

Sorry for the dueling edits. Now I'm noticing that even in Harpers the "source" is a communications company acting on Brockmans' behalf. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for addressing the vandalism to my talk page. The size of the edits stalled and crashed my browser and Huggle. I'll create a subpage for any users excluded from my talk page. Thanks again, Synchronism (talk) 03:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I saw it is only move protected indefinitely, so I didn't have to create the other page.Synchronism (talk) 08:06, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Roy Sheppard

Please restore the above article. After I speedied once, permission was claimed upon recreation. Accordingly, the article was no longer a valid G12, and I followed the proper procedure, tagging it as a copyvio which hides the infringing text and listing at copyright problems. Nine times out of ten they never follow up, but I know when you found it you must have seen that I had already taken these actions, so I'm not sure why you would have speedied anyway, given that another admin had already acted.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page?

Bloodfart was cited and deleted it without answering my contest to the deletion or making any justification. Please explain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamsburgland (talkcontribs) 18:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

You could have at least let me know, or responded to my contest BEFORE making the gave me no opportunity to adjust the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamsburgland (talkcontribs) 18:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Excuse the intrusion, NawlinWiki ... To be fair, I didn't use the WP:FLAG-BAND protocol on this one, but went straight to tagging it with {{Db-band}} because it clearly stated that the band had never released an album on a major record label, so they did not meet the WP:BAND criteria ... Happy Editing! — (talk · contribs) 02:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

why was my creation deleted?

Fantasticmv (talk) 18:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC) I am confused. why is OK but not my creation?

but it still survices as - are page header case sensitive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fantasticmv (talkcontribs) 20:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Page protection

I was wondering when you thought pages such as Tarantula, Methane, Benzene, Pumpkin, etc. could be un(semi)protected. It's been months since the vandalism. Guest9999 (talk) 04:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Spam defence

Thanks for helping me out with that just now. Can you tell me how to get one of those nifty things like twinkle or whatever it is you use that makes tasks like that go more quickly? Carl.bunderson (talk) 20:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Your input


Since you have a great deal of experience dealing with User:Grawp, your input at WP:AN#Creation protection as a pre-emptive measure might be beneficial to other admins who are not as experienced with him as you are.

Peace! SWik78 (talkcontribs) 20:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Someone has a question for you...

A request was made at WP:New contributors' help page to point you to a question for you, posted at User:NawlinWiki/Articles. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 10:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Your recent deletion

Why did you delete Help:Edit conflict? -- IRP 13:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Orb of Chatham

I saw you restore the page.... Why? The article is promotional in tone and doesn't establish the notability of the book. Sure it's unusual, but Google doesn't bring up reliable sources. It's the only book by Bob Staake with a page of its own, even though The Red Lemon appears to be more notable (on the grounds it was shortlisted for an award from the New York Times). [Phlyght] 14:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protection of real number

Did you mean to semi-protect real number? It's clear why you move-protected the article, but there does not seem to be enough IP vandalism for semi-protection. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 16:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

On Thatcher/Quis custodiet ipsos custodes you protected with the reason "Jeremy's an aspie and apparently is incapable of "knocking it off"."

Could you please never refer to Asperger's syndrome like that?--Tznkai (talk) 19:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

  • I apologize. It just makes me angry that he uses his condition as an excuse for doing what he does. NawlinWiki (talk) 04:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Unprotect Particle accelerator?

Hi, I see that Particle accelerator has been quiet for many weeks, and I wonder if it shouldn't be unprotected now? I'm not familiar with the proper Wiki procedures, but I noticed that you were involved in keeping it protected a few months back. Thanks -- Wwheaton (talk) 21:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I have been directed to the proper place to request unprotection, so I'm just letting you know I'm doing it. Wwheaton (talk) 03:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Unprotected per your request, let's see what happens. NawlinWiki (talk) 04:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, we'll see. Wwheaton (talk) 08:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

[2] - Akamad (talk) 07:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Move protection

Why do you indefinately move-protect pages that have only be vandalised once? According to Wikipedia's policy on page-move vandalism, there are three reasons for a page to be protected. I will use Utopia, as an example. "Pages subject to persistent page-move vandalism." — Utopia was moved once, so it is not "persistent". "Pages subject to a page-name dispute." — there's nothing of the sort on its talk page. "Visible pages that have no reason to be moved, such as the Administrators' noticeboard." — I believe this is refering to pages in the Wikipedia namespace or highly visisted pages e.g. Barack Obama. Utopia is not highly viewed. Can you please stop move-protecting pages? You are tarnishing Wikipedia's slogan: "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Jolly Ω Janner 14:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be more detectable and less destructive if the vandal only moved several articles several times than having lots of articles moved once. Not to mention it's a waste of your time. Jolly Ω Janner 17:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


Did you mean to set Reference so that only admins could edit it? I can't see any reason for this, and the article needs work but no one can edit it.--Xyzzyplugh (talk) 20:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


You had a message left for you on User:NawlinWiki/Articles. I discovered it while reverting a page blanking. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:35, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

December 2008

Information.svg Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to USA. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. It appears that when I reverted the biased view in the economy section you put it back. You may mention the government type but do not state what powers the government as fact. Spencer Divonn'io the glorious (talk) 19:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

A response is here. (Two actually, including the section above my edit.)  Frank  |  talk  20:11, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, NawlinWiki. You have new messages at Anhydrobiosis's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Best wishes for the holiday season

Tax haven - article protection

Please remove the protection you have placed on tax haven. Thanks. Paul Beardsell (talk) 10:22, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

NW, my very best wishes for the festive season English holly.jpg stay safe and talk to you in 2009.--VS talk 11:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

And now, for Fvasconcellos' traditional nonsectarian holiday greeting!

Adventsljusstake med tre brinnande ljus.JPG Wherever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may all your wishes be fulfilled in 2009! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this a combination of my Christmas greeting from 2006 and my New Year's greeting from last year? Why, it most certainly is! Hey, if it ain't broke...

Cody (TDI character) vandalism

My page for Cody (TDI character) keeps getting vandalised. Please semi-protect it.

GreyMatterEchoUKfan (talk) 15:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC-5)

Happy Holidays

Hi, and thanks for all your help and support this year. I hope you and your family have a safe and happy holiday season. Best regards for the new year. ;o) --OliverTwisted (Talk) (Stuff) 01:12, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Snekurgizzards

Snekurgizzards (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) I reported this guy like 3 weeks ago, and they wouldn't do anything. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 17:36, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And now that I look at it, that's the last time he edited. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 17:37, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Harold Pinter

Though you have stated in an edit summ. that you have fully protected the page from editing indefinitely, for some reason it appears not to show up as protected (no template). I would add another source citation to satisfy another ed.'s prev. edit, but do not want to breach your intention to protect. Added it to "Bibliography for Harold Pinter", following prevailing format (MLA Style) of article's bibliography. Logged on again to check progress, but need again to log off for rest of evening. Please reply here and I will see it later perhaps. Please do not reply on my talk page. Thanks. --NYScholar (talk) 00:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Due to involvement now of anon. IP change, I've supplied the template that appears to be what you intend--please adjust it as necessary. Thank you. --NYScholar (talk) 00:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Black Reign 56 (talk) 01:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC) Merry Christmas Nawlin

User talk:Nynewart and Travis Price

Would you please have a word with this User talk:Nynewart guy? He gets his nose out of joint every time I try to restore an {{nn}} tag on Travis Price that another editor posted. He apparently sees it as an affront to his sensibilities. He's getting a bit out of hand here. Thanks. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:45, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Bobo / user Drewgillespie

Hello NawlinWiki, due to the semi-protection of your talk page, User:Drewgillespie was not able to contact you regarding the deletion of Bobo (art/music company). I basically explained the reason for the deletion to the user, but Drewgillespi would be glad about a contacting. Regards --Oxymoron83 19:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Your "new account" blocks

Will you please stop blocking new accounts for no reason, particularly when you see me or other established users creating them? I've just received yet another "why has the account I requested you create been blocked" email (this time for User:The Boy Who Couldn't Stop Dreaming); there have been at least two others, plus no doubt countless more users haven't had the presence of mind to enable email – I notice plenty of other accounts I've created by request who have been blocked without making a single edit (User:Accident Waiting to Happen, for example).

"Edits from the same IP" is meaningless in the context of the UK, where not only are most IPs dynamic (I can easily get through a dozen IPs in an hour if I'm editing on a moving train and the connection is lost each time it goes through a tunnel), but most users of the "big three" IPs (British Telecom, Carphone Warehouse/AOL, Demon) are deliberately "throttled" through a very few IP proxies, so completely unrelated users can look like the same user if you only go by IP address.

As far as I can see, not a single one of the accounts I've created has ever gone on to vandalise; not every new user is a Grawp sockpuppet, and I'm starting to get extremely fed up with sending "no, we don't think you're a vandal, but I'd recommend you set up a new account as otherwise you'll be starting with a completely unfair entry on your block log which people will potentially hold against you" emails. – iridescent 20:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks Nawlin for catching the vandalism to my pages and fixing it.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonTake the CSD Survey 15:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you so much for going the extra mile to protect my page and oversight the personal attack. Wikipedia is a brighter place with people like you. :) —La Pianista (TC) 17:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Removing vandalism

Hello, NW! Sorry for butting in on this, but I'm just wondering why you've been removing vandal page moves in their histories (by the way, they can be accessible from the logs of those pages). Thanks, and happy new year.

P.S. Could you reply on your talk page, please? SchfiftyThree (talk!) 21:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

  • It's to remove links to malware sites, and particularly offensive edit summaries. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Best To Reply At My Talk Page. Thanks.

Just Stopping by. Yours Truly, M.H.True Romance iS Dead 15:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC) 718smiley.png.
Oooh , thanks for the move protect. Look like Jeremy does attack you pages often. O.oM.H.True Romance iS Dead

Regarding the deletion of the Moon Sand article

Hello Nawlin,

Please consider this a formal request for an explanation of how an article that provides cited information about a widely sold toy intended for use by young children is not noteworthy. Articles about Play-Doh and other modeling compounds exist in Wikipedia. Perhaps you will share something about any conflicts of interest you may have in this matter such as any involvements you may have in they toy, chemical, or PR sectors. (talk)

The article you wrote was deleted via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moon sand, the article was then recreated with "the best stuff ever" by user:Mgmtmoonsand and deleted A3 by Nawlin. Also, you might want to pay attention to our policies such as wp:N and wp:CIVIL your message here was extremely aggressive and rude assuming a COI.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 10:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello Ballonman, Thanks for the link to the Article for Delection page for the Moon sand article. I had not been able to find it. This is the first time an article I started has been through this process. This article was previously made invisible by a redirect to lunar soil when perhaps a disambiguation page would have been a more inclusive solution. I have been reading the notability pages and I stand by my request to Nawlin and await Nawlin's response. Questions of motivation and bias seem to be inevitable in a when editors choose not to identify themselves and share a bit about their like experiences and economic interests. (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC).
As Balloonman said above, the entire content of the article when I deleted it was "the best substance ever." That hardly gives you grounds to think I have conflicts of interest -- and, for the record, I don't. I have not reviewed previous versions of the article and have no opinion on them. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:50, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
COI issues are more prone for people who are new and write articles on unknown products---especially, when the unknown party includes COI flags in their name--- mgmtmoonsand is clearly a COI account., biz being short for business, could also be problemtic---just looked at your user page, and yes, your name is problematic.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 23:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Just ignore that warning.

You must have just deleted that page as I was nominating it for CSD (IE you got the warning of deletion message). I apologize about that. Bidgee (talk) 12:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi NawlinWiki. Would you mind restoring & then revert the talk page? See this. Best regards, --Kanonkas (talk) 12:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


I have edited my Article on the browser-based game, "Land of Destiny". Is it ready for submission? Should I remove the "Gameplay" and "Unique" sections due to bias? Diego Bank (talk) 17:18, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I will take that deletion-request as a "no". I still want to know how I can improve this article. This is a PBBG - not a retail game. Other browser-based games did not need extensive sourcing to be listed: Kdice, NukeZone, Ogame, Utopia_(online_game), and Orion's_Belt_(game). Diego Bank (talk) 23:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Mitigate & Satiate

Yes, it's highly  Likely that all these accounts are BaT:

  1. Mitigate & Satiate (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log)
  2. Veritable smorgasboard (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log)
  3. Hybrid of Sonic & Pikachu (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log)
  4. Minds Full of Lies (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log)
  5. Veritable's Morgans Board (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log)
  6. Positionyr'self (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log)

Keep up the good sock patrolling! Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 23:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Matchmaking (series)

Now see here, ingrate. The deletion you put here should not have been. And I am re-uploading it. As Red vs Blue is exactly as much importance as this series. So if you delete it again you have to delete Red vs Blue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angry Dad (talkcontribs) 23:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


It would help to put "banned user" templates along with a link to the socks-case on User:Positionyr'self and the talk page. When I saw your strike of his comment at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stereotypes_of_white_people my first thought was "what did he do and are there any of his edits I should be patrolling." When I didn't see usual "account blocked" signs, my next thought was "maybe Nawlin made a mistake." I checked the block log, it's marked as sock-ban. I could add the templates myself but I've got no clue who he is a sock of or what sock case to reference. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind, I see who the sock was and there's precedent for not giving him a high profile. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 05:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stereotypes of white people

FYI, I've reverted the article to an older version of the article, but am asking for input on whether or not that version should be kept.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 02:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I g4'd it.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 02:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Finding deleted Hyper Crush page

Heyy! It's killercalamari again. You said that the newer version of the Hyper Crush page that I made is in my userspace, but I can't find it. I can only find the old one and an article for Millionaires that I made last month. Can you help me find the newer one? Killercalamari (talk) 07:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


Would you consider creating an unprotected subpage and linking it from here to allow new and unregistered users to message you? You could even link it in an editnotice. The reason I ask is that Thieves Like Us (Band) is at DRV and the requesting user is not autoconfirmed so couldn't contact you here to discuss the deletion. Stifle (talk) 13:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

There's an AN thread which arises from this as well. Stifle (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Matchmaking (series)

Because it was only up for fifteen seconds! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angry Dad (talkcontribs) 16:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Why delete?

Why did you delete the redirect page? Now people have to do a search to find the page that i wanted this to link to. Uritzkup (talk) 05:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hamish Ross

Well, only one of the socks you blocked could be CU'ed, but it seems all the socks on that IP have been taken care of. It's a high-traffic IP, but Sam Korn's already hard-blocked it for 2 weeks. Kudos on busting (part of?) his sockfarm! Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 17:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Mindless attacks on defenceless animals

Should probably have been deleted. I can't think why a penis drawn out of characters could possibly be of any use. Jolly Ω Janner 16:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Just a ping :-)

Hello again, NawlinWiki ...

Just thought I'd ping you to say that I'm still around, and that the Flag templates for deletion warnings appear to have been well received, as witness the size of Category:Flagged articles ... I patrol it ocassionally, and either remove the category (if it has improved), or else I PROD the article. :-)

Happy Editing! — (talk · contribs) 17:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Restore page

Hi, could I ask you to restore Lorna Hart as I believe that what was interpreted as a hoax was, in fact, an article about a character from a TV show. If you like you can restore it to my namespace so that I can work on it there. --Deadly∀ssassin 00:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Restore Page

Hello, not sure how you can say that College Shack was not a notable subject as it seems to be one of the *very* few social sites online exclusviely for College Students. You would know that had you read my article instead of deleting it within 5 seconds of it's creation. I highly doubt you even read the whole article. Troll.

--Madscientist013 (talk) 17:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey NawlinWiki, out of curiosity, who is this? I assume it's an acronym, but it's not one I'm familiar with. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 02:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Matthew 16:2b-3

Comma Johanneum is exactly the same case. Similar passage, absent in many manuscripts. In Wikisource is no place for manuscript evidence, mss. which include, or exclude passage. There are also similar texts in Gospel of Luke and in Gospel of Thomas. In wikisource is not place for opinions and arguments of scholars. This article is not difficul expand above 5 000 scores, even above 10 000 scores. A lot of speculations. It exactly the same case like Comma Johanneum (1 John 5:7b-8a), but title. It was not titled "1 John 5:7b-8a" and nobody propose it for deletion. In a similar way, this article can be titled "the sings of the times", but is it really necessary. Perhaps the best way is to give title "the sings of the times (Matthew 16:2b-3)" and situation will more clear. Do you want change title? Matthew 16:2b-3 is much longer than 1 John 5:7b-8a. Of course the article is not finished. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 03:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Actually, it looks like JtV. Supposedly, he's been working with BaT/Grawp in recent days. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 05:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Article: Nasir Iqbal

Can you give me a concrete reason for the deletion of the page that I've created. I am referring to the Nasir Iqbal article. I did put proper references and external links on that page. I've created many articles and none have been deleted except for the one that I've created in May 2008. I am not creating articles for fun, but for the knowledge of the people throughout the world. I hope that you can reconsider your decision by restoring the page. I enjoy editing wikipedias articles and I've been doing that for quite sometimes but I've never been involved in this kind of situation where a page that is NOT supposed to be deleted have been deleted.You owe me an explanation. Arteyu (talk) 05:49, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Please refer to this Ken Binns article. This is the kind of article that SHOULD have been deleted. It has been there for more than 2 years and never have been deleted! It doesn't indicate any references or external links whereas in the article that I have created (Nasir Iqbal), I did put 2 external links, 2 references, stub template, 3 categories and it has also been added to a wikiproject. And also please take note, I didn't took the references from third parties website. Arteyu (talk) 06:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The page has been recreated. Arteyu (talk) 08:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Hello NawlinWiki. If I create Template:Governors of Bombay which is redundant with Category:Governors of Bombay and List of Governors of Bombay, will it survive. Please tell me. Thanks, KensplanetTC 15:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

OK. Better not create it. Thanks, KensplanetTC 15:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

How'd you like a good laugh...?

Now that I have the admin tools back, I've been having such fun with the little "Grawpies." Naturally, you and I are now linked: User talk:Nawlin Wiki & PMDrive1061 have anal sex.

Lord loves idiots, that's for sure.  :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Pauley Perrette

Thanks for removing the vandalism from the talk page and article page and protecting it from moving. Much appreciated. - NeutralHomerTalk • January 10, 2009 @ 23:57

Sockpuppetry case and Apology

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You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Nawlin for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. —Archon Magnus(Talk | Home) 00:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

To quote some Marxist philosophy: "That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard." - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Nawlin, I'm sorry. I admit that I was in error. I'm going to stay out of WP:SSP for a while. I just saw a lot of names that looked like attacks and, without knowing which Nawlin was real, submitted a handful of them. I know that I should have done some more investigating and I apologize. Please don't WP:BITE me. —Archon Magnus(Talk | Home) 01:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Usually users don't create attack accounts against themselves. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

That user with mojibake characters

Whose sock is this? Noticed you blocked him for socking ... is it our little Harry Potter-obsessed friend? Blueboy96 16:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Alaska Senate template

Could you please unprotect Template:USSenAK, or at least add Mark Begich to it? He took office last week. You protected it because it was on a high-visibility article, which I assume was Ted Stevens. I don't know how high-visibility that article is anymore, but that's your call. If you don't want to unprotect, at least please add Begich; the omission is bothersome. Much thanks! TysK (talk) 21:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Advice please

Hi there, could you please advise me about how to handle this?

The following IPs have demonstrated a persistent history of vandalism and have been blocked numerous times. The have now learnt to stop vandalising for a period after they receive their final warning, and reverting editors generally start off with a level 1 warning again on the assumption that this is a shared IP. I don't believe that's the case. (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · edit filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · edit filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

I don't think that WP:AIV is the place to report this as, while the vandalism is ongoing, I usually catch it a few hours later, so not overly recent. These IPs are vandalism-only, but I don't know where to request a review of their actions and a block. --Deadly∀ssassin 20:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Title blacklist

Your latest addition to the title blacklist matches, among 1200 other titles, SA-14 Gremlin, H-46 Sea Knight, and 146.52 MHz. You really need to check your regexes before adding them. --Carnildo (talk) 21:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your vandal fight!

All the best, — Sebastian 03:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

A question over your recent cleanups

I see that a couple of days ago, you undid a few redirects by a certain user, who pointed many normal articles to a new one named HEŖM_E_E_?, possibly breaking everything. Somehow, as a result of such redirects, such page as well as the page of the Indian actress Antara Biswas appeared in my normal watchlist and, frankly, I don't remember putting them up there, as I don't know such actress and I only watch pages that I've edited. Is this a side effect of the redirects, or should I be worried that my account has been compromised? I've not logged into my account since a couple of days ago, so I ignore what have possibly been going on. --Lashiec (talk) 12:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I don't know the anser to this. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Reformed Political Alliance

Hi! Why did you move Reformed Political Alliance to GPV? Wikipedia:ENGLISH states that English names are preferred. I think it can best be moved back. Even if one would prefer a Dutch name Gereformeerd Politiek Verbond would be preferred over the acronym GPV. C mon (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Barry M Cosmetics

Hi there

Hope you can help. I think you recently removed a page I was creating for Barry M Cosmetics Ltd.?

It was not my intention to make the page live yet as new references were required. However, due to my incompetence, it appears I did in error...

Anyway, it appears the page did appear live and that it was removed as it represented 'blatant advertising'. Barry M is a major UK brand with a retail presence in well other 2,000 stores. In fact, although, there appear to be no open sources for the info on the web, it's the UK's biggest cosmetics brand.

To include the brand information on Wikipedia is no different from providing entries for Mac, Rimmel and any number of other cosmetic brands that appear?

Any advice you could give would be greatefully recived and, if at all possible, I'd really appreciate access to my work which has now disappeared and which I would like to continue to edit until it's acceptable.

Thanks in advance.

All the best

WUYMU —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wuymu (talkcontribs) 21:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Hiya Nawlin. Strap on a gas mask and then take a look at Paul Couvrette. -- Hoary (talk) 01:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


I'm not particularly happy with the way you closed this AFD. It's indeed obviously unsuitable, but I'd prefer it if you used CSD#A7 for non-notable web content instead. I thought a psychotic sheep would be fun, so I looked it up and it exists, so it's not a hoax and since there's no obvious foul-mouthing or other abusive stuff, I think calling it vandalism isn't a good idea either. Please consider altering your closing comment. - Mgm|(talk) 13:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Please undelete Busse Combat

Please undelete the Busse Combat arcitle I think you speedily deleted. I was in the process of updateing the talk page and it was gone before I had a chance to do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtan163 (talkcontribs) 04:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Re Source, Notability, Blatant Advertising

I believe I included a link to this site: which discusses some of the company in question's knives. This was intended as asource, - though it was not marked up as one - mainly because I dont know the correct markup and the wikipedia help and guidelines are too extensive, and when I have tried emulating the sources in existing articles I have not worked out the markup correctly.

The site is authored by a physicist (i.e. someone with a scientific background in materials, mechanics, interactions between moving bodies etc - i.e. the sort of stuff you need to evaluate a knife) who reviews knives from various manufacturers and as far as I know has no commercial relationship with the company in question. As far as I know the reviews on are on knives that people who have bought the knives send to him to review, so they are relatively blind in that the company whose knife to be reviewed does not know that the knife they are selling to some person will end up being reviewed on the site. I.e. cutlery science is a reasonably independent "source" - internet source anyway which is as much source as many Wikipedia articles have.

The other man source of expert discussion, i.e. discussion between collectors, users, manufacturers, metalurgists, insurance assessors and the like is a forum called blade forum. I did not include a link to that that because it requires membership to read.

The problem with a company like this (Busse) is that it is boutique and not likely to have much written about it outside of collector level users. I.e. the company is notable because people who know about such things discuss and purchase their products, not because they are widely known or widely written about.

The company is also notable because they produce a type of steel (INFI - mentioned in the stub page I tired to create) which has some very unusal and useful properties for the types of knives they make. Again however this is knowledge which is not often written about outside of a few forums.

Again you are not likely to find a whole lot of printed discourse in this area.

I do not understand why you consider the page I created to be advertising, apart from perhaps that it had a link to Busse's website. However it seems quite a reasonable thing to do - that is have a link to a company site in a page about a company - if the company has site.

Did you read the talk page I tried to create and I assume you also moved? Or do I need to repeat that here as well?

Would you be so kind as to address my statements here and on the talk page, as well as to tell me why you thought the stub was blatant advertising?

~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtan163 (talkcontribs) 07:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

You wrote: <<The problem with a company like this (Busse) is that it is boutique and not likely to have much written about it outside of collector level users. I.e. the company is notable because people who know about such things discuss and purchase their products, not because they are widely known or widely written about.>> This means you're not going to be able to satisfy Wikipedia's requirement of reliable independent sources. Essentially, we're having to take your word for it that "people who know about such things" find the company to be notable. We can't do that. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Restoring CSD tags

Hello, an editor User talk:Tma-medical keeps removing tags I placed for speedy deletion on a page they created. I don't want to violate the 3 RR What shall I do ? Respond here thanks DFS454 (talk) 14:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Deleted, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Thanks A lot! By the way what was it like using a rotary dial phone? Do you prefer it despite having to wait for it to move back? DFS454 (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Locksport Reinstatement?

Any chance of reinstating the Locksport article(if that is even possible after such a long time...though I can probably dig up the text) and merge the TOOOL page? Presumably that is a far more valuable use of space, having the actual community discussed rather than one segment of it. Redirection of traffic from the Locksport page to another that is about a specific group of the locksporting community seems rather odd as well as having a ref to participating in lockpicking for the "hack value" but no actual info about the community...(also posting this on Nearly Headless Nick's talk, not sure where is best.) Arachnowhat (talk) 10:40, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I decided to go ahead and recreate the page as I feel I have addressed the majority of concerns brought up and it has a legitimate place... Feel free to look it over and please let me know if it needs more cites or if things should be changed. Arachnowhat (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Unprotect 2

Could you also unprotect {{db-nonsense-notice}}? You unprotected some notices following my requests above, and I need to edit that one now, too. I just checked all other Twinkle notices, and that's the last protected one, so I won't have to bug you any more after this. :)
Thanks, Amalthea 13:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Done, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Thank you. --Amalthea 13:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


For watching out for me and reverting the vandalism.— dαlus Contribs 08:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Insect article unprotection request

Hi. You semiprotected this article back in July, so I guess it's probably time to unprotect it. I also asked at the RPP page, but the admins there suggested I ask the protecting admin (you) first. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 06:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Restore OzRacingWrap

Hi you recently deleted the page OzRacingWrap. I believe the page is appropriate as to the best of my knowledge the podcast and site are the only independent podcast that covers Australian racing in the various series. All other podcasts of a like nature are from established media outlets.

I would therefore request you reconsider the deletion of the page.

Thanks Formulagpguys (shaun) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Formulagpguys (talkcontribs) 13:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy NawlinWiki's Day!

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NawlinWiki has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as NawlinWiki's day!
For being a great vandal fighter and administrator,
enjoy being the Star of the day, NawlinWiki!

01:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Jarl/Grawp socks

No other socks. Open proxies blocked. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 03:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Chunnamal haveli

I would like to recreate the Chunnamal haveli article. It is a topic of considerable interest.

It is a historical mansion going back to Mughal period that is frequently mentioned in literature.

Can provide me the text of the deleted article? I can use that as a starting point.

--Malaiya (talk) 23:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I will create a real article.--Malaiya (talk) 22:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I have started the article.--Malaiya (talk) 00:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Dendermonde nursery attack

I see you deleted and recreated the talkpage of this article to remove a malware link from the edit history. However, the same malware link is also in the edit history of the main article. Should the same perhaps be done there? -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 10:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Patience, I'm getting to that.  :) NawlinWiki (talk) 10:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Trinity Lutheran Church (A.E.L.C)

  • Recreated article under slightly different title of one that you speedy deleted twice earlier. Paste Let’s have a chat. 16:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I recently noticed that you are deleting, then undeleting articles. Is there any reason for this? ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 05:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure what that is, but I suppose it's a good thing to do. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 05:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Erik, Nawlin did not like the fact that I was top of the league table of admins by restorations and decided to do summink about it big time! Seriously though, I think what he (is he an he?) is doing is deleting defamatory and otherwise utterly unacceptable edits. The only way to do this is to delete and then selectively restore. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 02:45, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for removing vandalism from articles, but didn't you forget to restore Talk:Hamster? Ucucha 10:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Did I do that? It's back, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 11:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Laurent Nkunda

A message concerning your protection of the article Laurent Nkunda was left at Talk:Laurent Nkunda by a anonymous user. Just thought you might want to respond... Spiby 18:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

deletion of Hoggin' All the Covers

you recently deleted "Hoggin' All the Covers" ‎ (A9: Non-notable music by artist with no Wikipedia article) i don't doubt that the state of the article was probably subpar, possibly riddled with inaccuracies and typos, the artist does in fact have a wikipedia article: Band_From_TV i'd like to work on a "Hoggin' All the Covers" article, and wondering if there is some way that i can get the previous content of the page? -TinGrin 05:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi from RHaworth

I don't believe we have ever communicated even though we seem to do much the same admin tasks. This may be because our views on what is encyclopedic are very similar.

However I did happen to notice this edit. You missed the name immediately above Hugh G. Rection in the list! — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 02:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

And incidentally, this user not only remembers using a rotary dial telephone; this user has a rotary dial telephone which is connected to the PSTN and which still works! See this pic and this pic. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 03:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Protecting Grawp pages

As I have been keeping track of the new moves here, I've noticed that some of the pages have been repeatedly recreated. So, perhaps I could create a page with those titles and then it could be cascade-protected? The one problem with that is that, since I can't edit fully-protected pages, I wouldn't be able to update it with new ones (which should automatically be protected once added, unless I'm wrong about something). What do you think? ~ Troy (talk) 03:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

  • The cascading protection isn't necessary -- any admin can protect one of those titles from being recreated. Just email me a list if there are any we've missed. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay. In the future, I will email any pages that need to be protected. But for now, anyway, the pages that still aren't protected are [3] and [4]. Cheers, ~ Troy (talk) 03:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


This is another page I've noticed that you've semiprotected indefinitely a long time ago (back in July, in this case). I think that it is an important feature of Wikipedia that, as a general rule, everybody can edit. I agree with your decision to protect a number of high-visibility pages against page-moves, but I thought it was standard operating procedure on Wikipedia that everybody should be able to edit. So I would ask you to lift the edit=autoconfirmed protection on that article, and in the future (unless there's been some change in Wikipedia policy, which I doubt since you're the only admin I've come across using this heavy protection feature) please only temporarily semi-protect articles. Having said that, I do agree that in a few cases, an indefinite protection is warranted, particularly pages on human reproduction. Thanks. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here! 06:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


You sure that isn't a case of acting as a wikipedia mirror.Geni 22:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

WWF World Wide Fund For Nature Page

How do - disclosure: I work for WWF. On the wiki entry for our organisation there are several inaccuracies. Most notably in the 2nd paragraph it says we run 20 field projects each year. This wildly inaccurate. We currently run around 1300 [1]. Would it be possible for me to suggest a few changes that you can then review for impartiality and edit if necc.? This has all come up because I am trying to convince our species experts that it is OK for us to link to wikipedia so that our visitors can get additional background reading. Of course one of the first things they do is look up their own organisation, see the inaccuracies, and tell me that we can't link :-) Stedrayton (talk) 09:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Well done!

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Good job fighting heavy sockpuppet vandalism done on Jimbo Wales' userage on January 28, 2009. Since you contributed to trying to get rid of the nearly-uncontrollable vandal-sockpuppet, I am giving you this barnstar. NHRHS2010 |  Talk to me  23:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
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