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Just I thought I would add some information in Wikipedia.I had no intention to promote something here.If you got right to delete one's work then for wikipedia sake would you help me to create this article again.mere writing where company is, when it established or what it does how come it became a advertisement.Might be some added that may be led to think so.Please help me.Hope you learnt also creative thing rather than vandalism. diptiprakashpalai (talk) 24 December 2010 (UTC)


I believe the Page called Datameer should not have been deleted. We have many competitors with similar pages. This is a legitimate company and the content was fact based.

Teresa Wingfield (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

  • The problem is that the page was written as an advertisement, promoting Datameer as a "big data solution" and an "end-to-end solution". See WP:SPAM and WP:NPOV. If there are other pages here that you think are advertising, please let me know which ones. NawlinWiki (talk) 00:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Big data is a new technology category being used by the media, press, vendors, etc. etc. (honestly, don't know what else I would call it. An end-to-end solution just means all technology components to do something. So, I don't believe these are advertising statements. However, I am willing to edit the page if you can provide access. I can simply delete end-to-end. Thank you very much.


Teresa Wingfield (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

      • If you can rewrite the article in a neutral fashion, and can cite reliable independent sources (see WP:V) to show that the company meets the notability requirements of WP:CORP, feel free to repost. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Can I edit the existing page? I've put lots of sources like The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal there, but I can add many others. I will remove end-to-end as you have suggested.

 Teresa Wingfield (talk) 17:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

FYI, You can see our extensive coverage at We've been in every tech publication imaginable.

Thanks again.

Teresa Wingfield (talk) 17:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I have added more references, one which explains that big data is a technology category. I have also taken out end-to-end. So, I think this is good to go. However, I do not know how to move this back. Please advise. Thanks for your help on this.

Teresa Wingfield (talk) 19:04, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

The Wiki looks great. Thanks for your help on this. I am unable to move this back to Datameer. I do not have a triangle next to my search box, only a star for watch lists. Can you please move this? Thank you. Teresa

Teresa Wingfield (talk) 17:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Blocked user[edit]

What kind of promote are you talking?? Its an NGO not a Company we are about 600-700 members... NGO is a Non Govermental Organisation, NGOs doesnt have any owners? I dont see any reason why you delete it? I think there are some missunderstanding, did you look at our Homepage, our work is helping people in different countries and we are just an NGO..?? We help the people on the different coutries, can you please place it online again nobody can have some profit through our page because we are not a company we work as a non profit organisation. I think its answer for your question? its not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editint (talkcontribs) 22:26, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete EDIT International NGO page??? EDIT – Development through Interaction is a non-profit organization that works with international partners in 27 contries to improve and expand their services for disadvantaged people.

some news and links about EDIT: Could you tell me why you re -blocked They didn't really do anything wrong. --Confession0791 talk 05:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Repeat vandal - we've had too much experience with repeat vandals who brag that they're "back". This one made repeated promises to continue vandalizing after the block expired (check the contributions). NawlinWiki (talk) 05:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


For the block on, I was just filling out a report at ANI (instead of working on a paper due in 2 hours) when I saw that you blocked him. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit filter?[edit]

Can you help?? Basket of Puppies 04:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Sure - got you plugged into edit filters 264 and 294. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Alex Otterlei[edit]

You had PRODed this earlier. I did some looking and cant find anything independent of the subjects writing, basically nothing but his own written stuff and stores selling the albums. Tracing back the record label doesnt show up any info on their page either. He apparently did make music, but cant find any sources to passRS for BIO info. Any suggestions? Wolfstorm000 (talk) 02:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Well, if nobody can verify it, then presumably the article will be deleted by prod or AFD. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:57, 6 December 2010 (UTC)


Oreo.jpg Cookies!
Thanks for protecting my userpage. It was getting old having people putting shock images and "I am a fag" on it. I just didn't have the guts to rquest protection for my userpage. Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Filter 268[edit]

Please be more careful. I deliberately didn't bring it up with you in October when a similar series of false positives happened, because I know you have enough people giving you a hard time already, but this time I want to make sure you see this. Only 3 people actually reported, but there were dozens more false positives who didn't bother.Soap 02:32, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

A note[edit]

By the way, the IP you just blocked for 2 weeks is on a highly dynamic ISP range in Singapore. --Bsadowski1 04:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Author page--review[edit]

Have not received input from you on

Want to start on other pages too but need to know "how I've done" on this one, what more I need to include. I've tried to model this article after a similar author: —Preceding unsigned comment added by NPGordon (talkcontribs) 11:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

  • It doesn't appear that any of the sources cited on the Nathan Edmondson draft page are reliable (ie, not blogs) or independent (not the author's site or his publisher's site). See WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Have added three external links and two references, all independent. Again, using as a template I think I've fulfilled the requisite material? If not, perhaps I am misunderstanding your comments, and maybe you could give me an example?NPGordon (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC) NPGordon (talk) 16:33, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

May I ask you something?[edit]

I have your talk page on my watchlist and I must ask, who did you piss off? --Confession0791 talk 02:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

My recent article on My Sports Dreams was deleted, it wasn't intended to be advertising, so what should I change in the text to be sure it isn't considered an advertisement? Thank you in advance!JT Leon (talk) 15:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)JT Leon

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 December 8[edit]

Dont know if anybody had seen this... a random comment in the middle of the DRV page. Wolfstorm000 (talk) 04:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for deletion requests[edit]

Sorry, I was trying to delete my user subpages on those topics but accidentally requested deletion of the articles themselves. MaxVeers (talk) 15:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)


Per this - should we then block?  7  03:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

  • This is just a running 4chan meme - I probably should move it from #58 to #260. Will do that now. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks.  7  08:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of yellow creek beagles[edit]

My page being deleted: Could you please explain why? Granted that I am new to this, but the reason given was because the page was a blatant advertisement of a business or company. The page was about a man named L.M. Watson and the Yellow Creek beagles that he established in 1908, and how they affect the beagles of today. Several books have been written about him and Yellow Creek beagles, several magazines have covered the subject, but he is dead, the Yellow Creek dogs no longer exist and there is no business or company, just an informational article. A few individuals were named to serve as an example of the lingering effects of the Yellow Creek beagles in today's show rings and as hunting dogs, but absolutely no intentional advertisements towards anybody in any form. Is there something I can "take away" from the article to let remain on Wikipedia?Laneline0932 (talk · contribs) 05:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

unblock of User:Mti inc on hold[edit]

I'm reasonably confident that they get it now, checking with you as blocking admin before handing out the rope. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

  • I dunno, it sure sounds like s/he wants to rewrite the article about the same company. I would like to see this user email you a draft of the proposed new article before unblocking. NawlinWiki (talk) 22:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
  • After taking another look at the deleted article I see what you mean, I've asked them to post a draft that is less spammy and has at least one real source. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:29, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

unblock of User:editint on hold[edit]

whats reason that you delete me now ?? its like cat play with mouse?? i really dont understand at first you delete our NGOs page on wikipedia and than my account???i sait it many times its NGO (Edit International), not a company and our homepage is in english you can also read and understand it! you dont try to communicate, you delete all how you want, where is the problem? how can you delete a page of non govermental and non profit organisation so easly?? without help and asking?? we give our all day for this page to give online and now without any acceptavle reason deleted... there are 100 of links about us, we gave enough references and we just citate of our homepage and its clearly showing who we are, pls solve this problem.Wich informations you need about EDIT International, i am also Volunteer and try to make this page online all the day... Help me pls finally...

  • Whether it's an NGO or a for-profit corporation, it still needs to be notable per WP:ORG, still needs to cite *independent* sources per WP:V, and needs not to be written as advertising or promotion per WP:SPAM. NawlinWiki (talk) 00:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Victoria Game[edit]

Why do you keep deleting my page!!! Please stop, I'm trying to fix it, but every time I try, it's already deleted! By you!

  • You could have at least pointed me towards this in the first place instead of just deleting it over and over. It may not deserve its own page, but I can at least add it to the Variations section. You were rudely abrupt about it all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Repley (talkcontribs) 06:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
    • I *did* point you to this in the first place, on your talk page, here. You ignored me and recreated the page. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Westbrook Technologies[edit]

Hi there - I am going to edit the original article to try to make it comply with the spam guidelines, it was a work in progress and is a significant copmany with multiple third party authoritative articles written about it. It should be listed on this page among other Document_management software providers: Category:Document_management_systems Odonnetp (talk) 17:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

tour de munster[edit]

RE Page deletion

Hi Nawlin,

I think the tour page shoud be allowed as I believe it is the only non profit cycle in Ireland that is a multi day event. Also all cyclists who take part in the tour cover ALL their own costs. Also the tour is the highest profile cycling event in Ireland being covered by all the broad sheet papers as well as TV stations. The cycle itself is joined by Sean Kelly cyclist former professional cyclist. This is in no way a for profit organisation with most people in Ireland having at least heard of it!!. This year the 4 days were completed by 120 cyclists. We also have a number of professional IT people who will be adding to this page photos and further information. Historically this cycle has now taken place for 10 consecutive years and plans for it to carry on. Please respond as i do not understand your decision thanks mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpodonohoe (talkcontribs) 21:16, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Sabby Dhalu WP page deletion[edit]

Hi, could you tell me the reason for the proposed deletion of the WP i have created Sabby Dhalu. I was under the understanding only pages of relevance were acceptable on WP and i would consider Sabby Dhalu to be relevant enough to feature on WP due to her involvement in certain anti fascist pressure groups that feature in British news at the moment and anti racism work and also because she writes for the guardian news paper. If you disagree could you please specify why. Thanks very much Johnsy88 (talk) 14:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

  • It doesn't seem to me that she has any particular notability other than being secretary of this group. Is there any news coverage of her other than the one BBC profile? NawlinWiki (talk) 14:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
From what i can see i found this alternative news article on Sabby Dhalu,
also found these news storys which i will flesh out the article with which cover a number of issues she has covered, commented on and been involved in

Johnsy88 (talk) 15:05, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

      • Thanks for adding those sources to the article. Looks better now. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for your help and input Johnsy88 (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


Hey Nawlinwiki, please check your email. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 19:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Bzzzzt. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:46, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Whoa, I am impressed. Thanks! (With apologies to Oversight.)

      This reminds me--with your unlimited powers, can you add some words of advice to Wikipedia:Revision deletion? I had a hard time figuring out what to do, and then I found it on the talk page. Thanks again! Drmies (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

This or the Apocalypse[edit]

Nawlinwiki, I went to check out a band called "This or the Apocalypse". Log says you deleted it for lack of notoriety on December 9, 2010. Please reinstate the page. They are a signed, labeled band with two albums. Their are produced by one of the biggest names in Metal and the lead singer takes lessons with the premier metal vocal instructor in the world. If it needs more content, I'll volunteer to update the page once it is back online. But the point I'm trying to make is that they are legitimate and featured on Pandora Radio, MTV, etc. Thank you for your consideration on the topic. PS. Google them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:22, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Sabby Dhalu WP page deletion part 2[edit]

Hi could you provide you input as to weather or not the article does not warrant deletion. I understand we have discussed this before and you agreed that given the new sources there was not issue with notability for the subject matter but editors who seem to have a POV due to their attempts to remove a label to UAF article that says they are left wing are now moving from UAF article to this Article due to Admin Lock being applied on UAF article page. they are discussing the issue here if you could shed light on this issue it would be much appreciated. Johnsy88 (talk) 14:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

notability on ARC resources / energy trust / whatever[edit]

Hi NawlinWiki. If you'd like to re-add that notability tag on the original article at ARC Energy Trust please feel free. The version you placed it on is the cut and paste move version that the SPA has been pushing, despite notes on their user talk to try and get them to request a move. Thanks! Syrthiss (talk) 17:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Deleted Page[edit]

I believe the page we have created for William H. Michael should not have been deleted. We have released 1 solo record of him and 3 CDs of his previous bands, with another slated for release in January of 2011. On top of that, I was only half way through editing the thing. Thanks! - Heigtch at tornado alley

Promise Land (band)[edit]

I'm trying to understand why this page was deleted. The reason listed was lack of significance, but there was much more information and notability listed than say 2Tm2,3, Echo Hollow or For Today(for example). What can i do to make this article acceptable? Thanks in advance for your help. (p.s. It's my first article and it's still work in progress. I will also make the subtitles better as well.. ty) Symphmayhem (talk) 19:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You are working for their label; that's an obvious conflict of interest. The language was pathetic: "Musically their sound carries the elegance of Scandinavian symphonic metal like Nightwish and HB, but also carries a rugged American flavor. One notable element to Promise Land has always been their bold statements and messages from both the stage and in their lyrics." That's advertising copy, not an encyclopedia article. I assume you work in advertising, where that kind of thing is deemed acceptable. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
  • The article doesn't cite any reliable independent sources (see WP:V) to show that the band meets the notability standards of WP:MUSIC). I will look at the other articles you cited, but generally, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Born into the witch's cauldron A3[edit]

"No meaningful, substantive content" - really? It wasn't a lot, but it seemed to me more than would qualify it for A3. That's why I prodded it. LadyofShalott 02:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

  • It seemed to me one of those "I just made this up" definitions. If you feel strongly about it, recreate it with the prod notice. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 02:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
I won't do that now, but if the original editor recreates it, then I'll prod again. It seems to me I've seen something about this phrase or a very similar one recently - this makes me think it's not just something the author just made up (though I can see why it would appear that way). In any case, we do agree that the article as it was should not stand - we just differed on how it should go away. :) LadyofShalott 03:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Great work![edit]

I have no idea what you did to get a vandal so frustrated that they wanted to jump IPs that many times to avoid blocks and continue vandalizing your talk page. What ever it was, it must've been good. Keep up the great work!--GnoworTC 06:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Native Force[edit]

I was still working on it that article, before you came and deleted it. How would you feel if the very same thing was done to you? (LonerXL (talk) 18:44, 16 December 2010 (UTC))

  • If I posted an article about a musician that didn't indicate that the person was notable per WP:MUSIC, and didn't cite any sources per WP:V, I guess I'd accept the deletion. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
  • I was getting ready to add sources before you came and deleted it. That's why I had the word "CONSTRUCTION" on there. (LonerXL (talk) 18:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC))


Hi. You deleted my company's page because it did not show why WyeSoft was notable. I'm not sure if I fully understand. Would I be allowed to repost the page if I add the following line?: "WyeSoft is known mostly for two popular applications, WyeSoft Pro Typist and WyeSoft SMS." I was also going to add a page for WyeSoft Pro Typist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordLamer (talkcontribs) 19:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

ViaViente entry speedily deleted[edit]

Hi Nawlin Wiki,

I am attempting to put up a listing for ViaViente (company and product). I am not involved in the company in any way and have no conflict of interest. I have tried to deliver attribution and citations for all statements.

Can you please give me some guidance about what can be said for a simple company listing? For example, as long as a product has a certain % of the RDA for a nutrient antioxidant, then the product can be called an antioxidant product. I can demonstrate this with a link to the label. Also, I can cite peer-reviewed literature about the significance of antioxidants in human health.

I appreciate what you do to help keep Wikipedia valuable to all and look forward to your guidance.

Davidnbell (talk) 19:14, 16 December 2010 (UTC) Davidnbell

  • As with many entries for health drinks, vitamins, etc, the problem is that showing that antioxidants are notable, or citing studies about antioxidants in general, is not the same as finding reliable independent sources about the specific product that the article is about. In general, it's just way too easy for these articles to slide into promotion and advertising. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Viaviente continued[edit]

Thank you for your prompt reply. I would like to describe the company and the product in simple, factual terms. The product meets the required FDA labeling criteria as an antioxidant product. Can you give me guidance about acceptable corporate descriptions and review a new draft?

Davidnbell (talk) 20:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC) Davidnbell

  • You would need to show that the company meets the notability standards of WP:CORP, again by citing reliable independent sources per WP:V. The fact that the company makes an FDA-approved product does not make it notable. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, again...(I just noticed how to continue the same dialogue). I will review WP:CORP to see if it is feasible for this company.

I was not suggesting that the product's meeting FDA requirements made the company notable. I meant that the label makes it verifiable that the product is an antioxidant product.

Davidnbell (talk) 21:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

Hi NawlinWiki,

If I establish notability per WP:CORP would that qualify the entry? Or are there other challenges in your view?


Davidnbell (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

  • The article also must be written in a neutral fashion per WP:NPOV. A list of ingredients, claimed effects, etc. for the product is going to make it seem like promotion and not neutral. NawlinWiki (talk) 22:05, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, so it is not the journalistic standard of NPOV. My understanding of neutral is an objective presentation of verifiable facts, without editorial opinion. Can I post a draft in this talk space? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidnbell (talkcontribs) 22:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

As you can tell, I am new to this. I will do as you suggest. I appreciate your patience.

Davidnbell (talk) 22:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

Hi NawlinWiki...if I draft in userspace, how to you see it without my making it a live post?

Davidnbell (talk) 19:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

  • Userspace articles aren't private - I can read your drafts and so can anyone else. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:32, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

So I just leave it in draft and let you know it is ready for you to review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidnbell (talkcontribs) 19:45, 20 December 2010 (UTC)'s there now. I should add that for notability I have included 3 articles about Keeland and ViaViente from the Dallas Morning News, which, according to Wikipedia, is the major daily newspaper serving Dallas, TX. Furthermore, Dallas/Fort Worth is, according to Wikipedia, the economic and cultural hub of the North Cental Texas region and is the 6th largest metropolitan area in the U.S.

Just saw your response to another, below, about a pdf of an article. I am tracking down the actual articles now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidnbell (talkcontribs) 20:56, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I have added direct web citations for the 3 articles. One of the Dallas Morning News articles was published electronically and is not archived. An abbreviated version is listed on the Governor of Texas website, which I believe qualifies as notable.


Davidnbell (talk) 22:57, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

    • Sorry, but I don't see a draft of this article anywhere in your contributions. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:00, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I have it in Editing User:Davidnbell/Viaviente. I have not saved it as I don't want it to go live.


Davidnbell (talk) 23:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

      • Well, I can't evaluate it until you save it to your userspace. A draft article in userspace is not considered "live". NawlinWiki (talk) 23:06, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I did not know that. I do not want the entry attributed to me. Does that mean I should post it differently?

Davidnbell (talk) 23:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

        • If you "don't want the entry attributed to [yourself]", I don't know that I can help you. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't want the entry to read Davidnbell/Viaviente; I don't want the entry to list me as the author. Is it correct that you can see a saved draft in userspace, but it is not live?

Davidnbell (talk) 23:17, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Davidnbell

Celcius Technology[edit]

WTF?????? Unobjectionable (talk) 21:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

  • There was no indication of notability per WP:CORP. I've moved the deleted text to your userspace at User:Unobjectionable/Celcius Technology so you can work on it there. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Ok. Not so bad. But it would be hard for me to adress the issues. I tried before and I couldn't be successful. I can't get either a term of comparision or a guideline from reading several other well established articles of airsoft gun manufacturers that are mysteriously exempted from being wiped out. Unobjectionable (talk) 21:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
      • If they don't indicate notability, they should be deleted as well - let me know. NawlinWiki (talk) 22:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Westbrook Technologies[edit]

Hi again - I have made significant updates to the Westbrook Technologies page. I have included a number of third party authoritative sources to verify Westbrook's notability in document management software. I have also followed how the other Document management system companies have done on their respective pages. Odonnetp (talk) 19:37, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Could you please explain why you have deleted Westbrook Technologies again? The article describes a major company that provides document management systems. The deleted article had third party references from authoritative source. Wikipedia has dozens of articles that describe companies and products. The article described what was in those citations and didn't blatantly push the product or company - G11 does not apply. Endless blue (talk) 16:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I thought the changes I made to Westbrook Technologies solved the issues. You said I cited "a lot" of press releases...I cited two, and one of them being because of an award that Westbrook had received. I figured even though it may have been a press release, it still shows that the company has some notability seeing as they have won this award. I also cited numerous third party sources, including two newspaper articles (from Jamaica's The Gleaner and New London's The Day), an online magazine article (Bank Systems and Technology), Westbrooks' partner ship with Microsoft, and two separate awards the company has received by I-Cubed and Deloitte. Citing the awards, even if it was a press release, surely must help in determining the notability of a major document management software company, does it not?

In response to you saying the article is just stating how wonderful the company is and how useful its product is, I stated and cited awards they have received to give the company notability...isn't that a criteria for having a Wikipedia page for a company? That the company has done well and has made newsworthy stories? I figured receiving awards would count towards's not gloating, it's just a way to show that they are a major and notable company in document management software. And about the product, I thought it would be helpful to at least show the basic functions of the software and its capabilities. Many other companies listed under Document management systems have similar sections on their pages dedicated to how their software works and the great capabilities it possesses.

Based on my response, can you please give me more details as to why you've deleted the page? Again, I am a new editor and I'm still learning the ropes, but I feel that the changes I made and sources I cited greatly improved the article, showing that Westbrook Technologies, a major company, is worthy of an article. Please respond to me either here or on my talk page. Thank you and I look forward to your response. Odonnetp (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

World record unblock request...[edit]

User talk:Tamersaadeh is requesting an unblock after 4 years. Seeing as he seems sincere, could we commute this one to "time served"? --Jayron32 00:17, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

WyeSoft Pro Typist[edit]

I do not own,, or, so surely that makes them independent sources by definition? Also, a software application is neither a real person, an animal, an organisation nor web content, and I thought the fact that thousands of people are using the program meant that it was notable. I can't be bothered to argue or repost anymore, I just wanted you to know that I disagree with your interpretations of these terms. LordLamer (talk) 07:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)


Hi. You recently deleted the article Afrojack under WP:CSD#A7 and put WP:SALT protection on it. However the artist is notable under WP:MUSICBIO criterion 2 as he has had a single Take Over Control which has charted in many countries. Any chance that the protection can be lifted? Mhiji (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Notability Established for Mark and Patti Virkler?[edit]


I recently updated "Mark and Patti Virkler" article. "East Aurora Bee"--an unbiased newspaper--is referenced. I would like the article to be accepted and submitted to Wikipedia please.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnboruff (talkcontribs) 20:19, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)That is not a link to a newspaper, it is a link to a .pdf file on a Virkler website which purports to be a newspaper article, but which may be fake or edited or both. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Creative Health Capital[edit]

Hi Nawlin,

I am trying to create a wikipedia page for Creative Health Capital, however, I received a speedy deletion from you citing an A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content). I would like to provide proof of Creative Health Capital's significance as a leading financial intermediary in the healthcare services industry. Creative Health Capital is listed by the NIC (National Investment Center) as a company that provides financing for various healthcare providers. Creative Health Capital has also completed over $1 billion in mergers and acquisitions, sale/leasebacks, senior debt financings, mezzanine debt financings and private equity financings. Its name may not be as recognizable as The Blackstone Group, The Carlyle Group or Goldman Sachs, but within its sector of healthcare services, Creative Health Capital is very well known and is a leader in helping healthcare services companies obtain financing to grow. Please show me how I could avoid speedy deletion. Your help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks very much in advance.

Nic lender (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Nic lenderNic lender (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem. I have just added the following reliable independent sources: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6.

Any chance the deletion can be lifted? Nic lender (talk) 15:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Ian Howfield[edit]

Thanks for your input but I was copying and pasting from stuff I typed up and edited in Microsoft Work to make it easier and soccer is what let him to become a kicker in football so i thought it was relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnaleabrown (talkcontribs) 23:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. This is my first article I am writing thank you for the infomration. I updated the part about his high school career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnaleabrown (talkcontribs) 23:24, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi there... I am writing about the deletion of Dan Sweet page.. Why did you delete it??? I didn't break any of the rules... Thanks.. EmmerdaleGuru Emmerdaleguru (talk) 13:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Me again... So if I create it again but without stating he is not well known.. will that be ok? Emmerdaleguru (talk) 13:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Me yet again.... He is set to release a single in mid 2011... Does that have any effect on the rules? Emmerdaleguru (talk) 13:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

OH OH i just remembered. He HAS been on tv!!!!! Emmerdaleguru (talk) 13:52, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

How do i create the same page again with the added credit.. Emmerdaleguru (talk) 13:56, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

James Buchanan Page[edit]

So, I'm new to this wiki thing, but flagged what appeared to plagiarized content on the James Buchanan entry. I see you reverted back to original. Why? I ask only so I can understand the rules of the game of writing and editing wikipedia. Thanks. Profjsg (talk) 14:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

ViaViente speedily deleted[edit]

Hello, again, NawlinWiki. As I have previously explained, I am new to Wikipedia, but am an expert business analyst and writer. How can I address your removal criteria? (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content). Is significance a function of size? The previous administrator, Anthony Appleyard, seemed to confirm that I had met the verifiable criteria for general notability.

Let me explain the significance of a company like ViaViente. There are very few companies that are on a national consumer radar screen (e.g. Kraft, Coca-Cola). However, small companies such as ViaViente form the engine of innovation. That is why Coke and Pepsi, for example, have purchased innovation in the likes of Odwalla, Naked Juice, etc. This makes the small companies meaningful if not well known. In fact, in my area of expertise, which is the application of cutting-edge anti-aging science to consumer nutrition products, companies like ViaViente are often years ahead of the huge consumer products companies in adopting innovative testing programs.

Wikipedia users would benefit from having more information about companies like ViaViente that are early adopters of technologies (like ORAC and Total ORAC) that may not reach the mainstream for years.

Thanks for your help.

Davidnbell (talk) 16:22, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

  • It is not enough for you to believe that ViaViente is significant, or even to persuade me to believe that they are significant. Wikipedia requires that reliable independent sources (WP:V) have recognized the subject as significant per the applicable notability guideline, which here is WP:CORP. Otherwise, we get into never-ending arguments about whether someone's personal opinion is right. Arguments about whether a company is an "engine of innovation" or whether readers "would benefit from having more information" are inherently subjective, which is why we require third-party sources. In general, see Wikipedia:Up and coming next big thing. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Precisely! I could not agree more. We should stick to the General Notability criteria, which relates to verifiable (at least) regional, independent recognition. I did this. Yet, your recent deletion specifically states "explanation of significance." That is why I gave you an explanation. How else is an "explanation of significance" demonstrated? I have not interest in arguing. I want to meet hard criteria and so far the Wiki admins are using very vague criteria.

Davidnbell (talk) 16:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

  • You're not a reliable source. I can't cite David N. Bell as the source that establishes that ViaViente is notable. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:41, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

NawlinWiki. Of course I am not the source. I am talking about the references that I believe meet the General Notability guidelines.

Davidnbell (talk) 16:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, I just noticed the G4 reference. This is not a "sufficiently identical and unimproved copy." In fact, it is a wikified version by Anthony Appleyard.

Davidnbell (talk) 16:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

  • The sources about the company just establish that it's a company. They don't address notability. The sources about the ingredients are not sources about the company or its product.

Honestly, I've had enough of this discussion. Several Wikipedia editors have expressed the same concerns to you, and yet you argue on. If you want to pursue it further, please go to Wikipedia:Deletion review. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:47, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

First of all, thank you. This is exactly the kind of feedback about the sources I needed. It is very helpful and just the kind of concrete advice I have been looking for.

Second, just to keep the facts straight, you and Anthony Appleyard are the only editors I have communicated with. My communication with him was very constructive.

Merry Christmas

Davidnbell (talk) 17:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[edit]

Hi! You have deleted the page which was not only notable but at least four references were provided. Two of the references were from government of India owned portals which shows the importance of the websites. you are requested to revert it immediately . Wikipedia is a democratic front and such behaviour from an administrator like you is not expected. Samyo (talk) 18:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Ultimately you have proved that you are here to delete Indian articles. for reference pl read Samyo (talk) 18:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Gee, how do you know that I'm not of Indian descent myself? Anyway, the fact that a website is listed in a directory of websites doesn't satisfy the notability criteria of WP:WEB. If you can find reliable independent sources that show that this site is notable per WP:WEB, feel free to repost. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
The fact is that you have deleted the article without discussions took place. What does it show? Please revert back the articles and start discussion. Be democratic while deleting any article. Samyo (talk) 18:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Articles about websites that don't assert notability can be deleted at any time without discussion. See WP:CSD, category a7. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
You are proving yourself as Saddam Hussain of USA, which is not good for the health of Wikipedia. The people like you are destroying the images of Wikipedia. You are once again requested to revert the article and then start discussion. Samyo (talk) 18:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Insulting me isn't going to get you anywhere. See Godwin's Law. I've explained what you need to do to have an article about this site, and instead of responding, you're calling me names. Continuing to do that will not get you any further responses and may get you blocked from the site. See WP:NPA. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I am here for the sake of Wikipedia and to adopt democratic approach towards deletion or addition of any article. You are rquested to revert the article and start the discussion. You are not adopting democratic way of the process which is the main concern. If you are misusing the power of an administrator then your power can also be ceased and you can also be blocked. Such issue of deletion of Indian originged article by foreigner was already discussed with Jimmy Wales in details during his visit to India. Please adopt democratic way. Don not try to harass the contributors Samyo (talk) 19:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I've stumbled on this page while discussing another article, but I felt the need to come to NawlinWiki's defense. Wikipedia is not a democracy. Wikipedia has policies and guildelines created by consensus of it's editors. Per consensus of it's editors, the Wikipedia community has decided on factors which an article may be deleted without discussion. WP:WEB is one of those factors and was applied to your article when it was deleted. This is not about you being Indian or the article being non-American and NawlinWiki likily put zero thought into the content of the article other than if it met criteria for inclusion at WP:N and WP:V and whether it was WP:WEB worthy. Calling them names will not get you any credit with Jimmy Wales =. I recommend you educate yourself on Wikipedia a little bit and try again later when you can support your subject's notability a tad bit more.--v/r - TP 19:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
How can u comment on the article which has already been deleted. I am talking about democratic approach. I know Wikipedia is not an experiment in democracy or any other political system. But its method of determining consensus is through the discussion. But in the case of, the article was deleted without putting either {{notability}} template to make other editors aware of the problem or the {{db-web}} template to mark an article for the speedy deletion process. I was informed through a message on talk page after deletion. Samyo (talk) 19:35, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
In the case of your article, the discussion happened during the creation of WP:WEB and it was agreed that the community consensus in the policy was enough to cover the consensus required to delete articles, if that makes sense. Basically, because the community came to consensus on what could be deleted without new discussion. There is no requirement to notify the page creator, it is done as a courtesy and in good faith. Instead of arguing with NawlinWiki, why don't you ask for your article to be userfied? Basically, if you feel your article can be improved then you can ask NawlinWiki to restore it and move it as a subpage under your userpage. You can work on the article until it meets our policies and it can be moved back into article space. The catch is that you have to improve the article. It could not sit in your user space as is indefinitely and if it goes uneditted for an extended period of time it could be deleted. That seems like a compromise, right? Apologies to NawlinWiki if I'm getting in business that isnt mine.--v/r - TP 23:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
You can not make any comment on the articles which was deleted long before you appeared in the scenario for the rescue of NawlinWiki. Don't advice others to know about your policy. How can you advice others to improve the article that has not been read by you. Instead you should advice your NawlinWiki to restore the article in good faith. Samyo (talk) 03:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel that way. I was hoping a third non involved and completely unbiased editor could convince you that you misunderstand how Wikipedia works. As you can see below, I clearly will disagree with NawlinWiki when I feel they are wrong. In this case, it is not important to see the article as much as it is important to help a willing editor and contributor, such as yourself, understand Wikipedia community and policies so you can continue contributing and not be frustrated when these things happen. They happen to the best of us. As you'll see, some of my work is also for deletion. Once you grasp the concepts behind the policies here, you'll have a greater understanding why your article was deleted like it was. I encourage you to read WP:N, WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:CSD. Unfortunatly, by your own logic I couldn't tell NawlinWiki to restore it. You've asked me not to suggest ideas to you because I did not see the article, so how can I suggest ideas to NawlinWiki without seeing it? I strongly recommend you take my advice and ask them to userfy the page. You seem like you are just frustrated but you'd still like to contribute and this would be the best course of action to work on your article and learn the Wikipedia way.--v/r - TP 13:29, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Why should I frustrate ? You and NawlinWiki both seems to be frustrated though. Your act reflects the frustrations. It appears that you are here to promote deletions. Don't try to teach anybody the Wikipedia Way by deleting the articles. If you are really keen to show anyone the Wikipedia way, point out the weakness of the articles by putting the correct templates without deleting the articles. Please be positive. Your negative approach will only harm the Wikipedia. Samyo (talk) 17:58, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I really am sorry you feel I am being negative and promoting deletions. As you can see below, I made an attempt to save another article that was facing deletion using my knowledge of Wikipedia policies to give the article the best chance it has to survive. Wikipedia has another policy called assume good faith. I wish I could convince you of my good faith effort to help you and by educating you, give you an opportunity to save your article. I've explained how this is possible down another path but you seem to only want to go down one track to achieve your goals. This will be my last effort to help you. Your article was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia policies and with the standards and consensus of the community. No amount of disagreeing and wishing it was different will change that. Only by abiding by our policies and understanding that we have an encyclopedia to build. What was done to your article was not done to personally attack you or India. Also, you do not own the article and by contributing you agree irrevocably to release your contributions under a CC-BY-SA and GDFL license which means your contributions are open for edits, reuse, and even deletion. If you have trouble with these, please ask questions and we can help clarify. But if you don't understand and you don't want to understand, then you'll find it very difficult to contribute. NawlinWiki did what any other administrator would do and what any other editor would do. NawlinWiki has been at this a very long time and is very experienced. You have an opportunity here to learn a lot from NawlinWiki and become a great contributor if you take the time and effort to learn and understand. I wish you the best of luck, I've given it my best shot at helping you.--v/r - TP 19:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Donna Kshir[edit]

Hello. Just notifying you that I recreated this article you deleted and improved it by adding citations and cleaning it up a bit. She has news coverage as both an author, and as a child abuse advocate. I believe she meets WP:N even if she fails WP:Author. I realize it's borderline, so I won't be surprised if it goes AfD, but I do not believe the article is speedy worthy now.--v/r - TP 19:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I still don't think the article meets WP:BIO or WP:V, so I've listed it at AFD. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:22, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Livid Records[edit]

Article was deleted while I was still editing...need more time to add notability can you please grant me the time to add the proper information before deletion? Thanks for your time. This was not a recreation of the previous article...but a new article about the same subject which clearly has notability. (Several thousand records sold) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borgleteets (talkcontribs) 19:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

  • No, "several thousand records sold" is not an indication of notability per WP:CORP or WP:MUSIC. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

This record label is very established I am just new enough to Wikipedia that I do not know the correct things to cite. Any suggestions? Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borgleteets (talkcontribs) 19:47, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

"Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." Does this apply to musicians on the record label or the record label itself??? Because a group on the label was nominated for an Independent Music Award — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borgleteets (talkcontribs) 19:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

    • That might qualify the group, but not the label. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your input and I am wondering: what is the proper protocol for editing an article and getting the proper approval to republish it once it has been deleted but more information has been added. thanks again for your help.--Borgleteets (talk) 22:01, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

perhaps you can check out my re-edit of the page located here: and let me know if it meets the requirements for publishing? --Borgleteets (talk) 22:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

No Snowcones[edit]

This article was deleted while I was gathering links to sites which published articles related to the company. I have collected theatre reviews of the various shows this company has done. The company won an award for it's first production so I thought it was notable. I am new to wikipedia so this may not qualify. I just want to be certain why. Mdthesoldier (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

A did give a valid reason. There is no reason to let anti-Israel propaganda by the enemies of the Jewish people stand on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sêmîazâz (talkcontribs) 23:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

You can see that the consensus was only among Muslims, and there is no reasoning with those people. Sêmîazâz (talk) 23:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


Hi there, Can u wait for 2-3 hrs more so I can complete the article Ddamas, I m recreating that article please wait for few hrs, then review it, if the article is still not looks good or worthy enough, please nominate for same. thanks KuwarOnline Talk 14:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for guideline, surely follow while creating new article, but for now please review article Ddamas and possible remove CSD tag, if not please let me know whats wrong with article, so I can fix. I have added more sufficient good reference to prove WP:Notability. Thanks KuwarOnline Talk 15:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


Hi NawlinWiki,

You deleted the Yoxi page I created citing a lack of natability despite my having included hyperlinks to two major stories in Mashable and Slashfood. We also had a cover story in the San Francisco Chronicle that I included--and there was also a story in the NY Times online which I could have included but did not. If feature stories in Mashable, Slashfood and SF Chronicle don't make something notable, what does? We were also in The Detroit Free Press, San Francisco Examiner, and others. We have a very well known content partnership with GOOD magazine. Should I re-submit and include all of these? I am new to wikipedia and appreciate the guidance.

Ballark Ballark (talk) 18:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Hi NawlinWiki,

You deleted my Babel Travel page a few minutes ago. Can I ask, how is this page any different to and


Borsippa66 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borsippa66 (talkcontribs) 05:55, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Each of those pages appears to be supported by reliable independent sources. Also, the Babel page was written in a promotional/advertising style. NawlinWiki (talk) 06:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

NawlinWiki, Those websites mentioned earlier are written in the same style as Babel Travel's? Also, it is supported by independent sources? Look at the bottom of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borsippa66 (talkcontribs) 06:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Userpage Vandalism Barnstar[edit]

Userpage Protection Barnstar.PNG The Userpage Shield
Thank you for protecting and reverting the recent vandalism attack on my userpage. WoodyWerm (talk) 02:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi NawlinWiki,

The page I created and you deleted (Babel Travel) is written in the same as the following Wiki pages; and How can you tell me that they are any different to Babel Travel's?


Borsippa66 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borsippa66 (talkcontribs) 11:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

R1 for Karunakaran?[edit]

Can you restore Karunakaran which you speedily deleted on 3 April 2007? Couple of reasons it should not have been speedy deleted:

  • It was not a newly created page, it had been existing for 2 years prior to being deleted
  • The redirect's target page was missing because of vandalism. Although vandalism was reverted 4 days prior to your deletion, there was a typo in the target page's title (a space after the dot was missing), which made the redirect invalid. The action there could have been - correct the page title, or edit the redirect.

Jay (talk) 05:02, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

    • Redirect restored, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Stop deleting Indian origin articles[edit]

Hi !

You are earnestly requested to stop deleting Indian Origin articles. You are requested to restore Karunakaran and immediately. Samyo (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Nonsense! NawlinWiki has gone to a lot of effort to preserve and improve content about Indian subjects. However: we do not give Indian content a free pass to violate our standards of verifiability, neutrality, notability and reliable sourcing, any more than we do American content, Tierra del Fuegan content, Danish content, or Malagasy content. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:14, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks NawlinWiki for restoring Karunakaran. This shows your positive attitude towards Indian articles. Similarly please restore Samyo (talk) 10:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Orangemike : May God bless you. Samyo (talk) 10:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Page Deletion without appropriate reasons[edit]

Hi. A competitor of Centrify Corporation made some disparaging comments, then marked it for speedy deletion, then in editing out the disparaging remarks the un-delete was accidently taken out, a new article was posted, and bang it was immediately deleted by you. This page should not be deleted for the following reasons: (a)Centrify is a software company that has 2500 customers and is used by 40% of the Fortune 50 (b)it employs in excess over 100 personnel (c)it is funded by some of the most well-known Venture Capitalists in Silicon Valley, e.g. Accel Partners who is an investor in Facebook. (d)it has raised $36 million in venture funding, making it one of the most well funded security software startups in recent memory. Net net Centrify is a legimitate company, with a wide ranging install base, top tier investors, etc. So by removing the article you are telling thousands of customers and hundred plus employees in effect the company does not exist?? Specific to the content of the article (a)the content itself was paralleled on articles from Cyber-Ark and BeyondTrust, which are on wikipedia. I used Cyber-Ark's article as a template for this article, with the assumption that no one complained about it, so it was a good template to use. (b) There were numerous footnotes/citations (15 I belive) backing each statement in the article, ie references from some of the most prestigious IT magazines who wrote about the company.

I ask please un-delete/re-instate. There are articles on much smaller security software companies who employ less people, have less customers, have raised less money, etc. then Centrify. Compare the Centrify article to the article posted on Cyber-Ark, again that was used as a template.

Thanks for your attention to this. Gkf101z (talk) 17:57, 28 December 2010 (UTC)Gkf101z

Page Deletion without appropriate reasons[edit]

I would like to know why you keep on deleting Enthusia VJTI citing the reason 'No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content'. Would you be kind enough to elaborate ?

Kshitija Deshpande (talk) 19:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC) Kshitja Deshpande

It's not just any student festival ,at any school.It's V.J.T.I . One of the top institutes in India. Plus, I've already seen that student festivals like Mood Indigo, Umang( festival), Malhar have been published . So, why discriminate ?

And how does it even promote itself just by naming the events ?

Kshitija Deshpande (talk) 19:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC) Kshitija Deshpande

December 2010[edit]

 Your user page User talk:NawlinWiki/Archive 47, by reason of its contents, was mistakenly included in Category:Articles on deletion review. It has been corrected for you. For information about this, please see the guidelines about the categorization of user pages. Thank you. --Bsherr (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Yet another undeletion request[edit]

This one got screened out by the edit filter for some reason, so I'll paste it in manually:

Hi There, I bought my pikelet cd, and found her page deleted when i looked her up on wikipedia. She may may not be setting the world on fire in Louisiana, but here on the other side of the world (Melbourne, Australia), she has achieved some degree of "importance [and] significance".

A quick google reveals that she has had articles written about her in Melbourne's main broadsheet ,and elsewhere over the past 3 years, and played at Melbourne's main Arts Festival

A quick look at her Myspace page reveals that she has released 2cds on the Chapter Music Label.

Please accept my minor challenge to this cultural imperialism and restore the page that was deleted.

Added by Bkonijn (talk · contribs). Soap 13:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Undeletion Request[edit]

Policies ? Well the articles I mentioned didn't really abide by all of them and yet did not get deleted . I think ,you acting really unfair . I sincerely request for the re-creation or undoing the deletion of my article Enthusia VJTI.

Or you could try telling me the portion of the article that bothers your 'polices;. I'll edit in a suitable way. Kshitija Deshpande (talk) 15:39, 29 December 2010 (UTC) Kshitija Deshpande

What are the reliable independent sources that you are planning to add to the article? I looked at the deleted version, but it didn't have any independent sources at all. I can see that you're having trouble writing in a neutral tone; do you have a conflict of interest? If you're associated with this subject, it can be hard to write a neutral encyclopedia article. You could try asking at Articles for Creation if an uninvolved person is willing to write the article instead, but you'll need to include enough independent sources of information to make that possible. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:45, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and thanks for pointing out the other three articles. Can you see why I only referred two of them for deletion? Mood Indigo (festival) had independent sources cited, while I searched for sources writing about the other two events and couldn't find any. In general, it's not a good idea to take the existence of unsourced articles as a reason to create another unsourced article- Wikipedia needs fewer unsourced articles, not more. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)


We believe the Deletion of the "JAVIER FERREA" Page is clearly in error on Wikipedia. Mr Ferrea has been notable in the Aerospace Industry. As an Author he has authored the Book "TO LIVE AND FLY IN THE U.S.A" Released in 1999 on the Dorrance Publishing Label. Additionally, Ferrea has Published numerous Technical Articles for Aerospace Industry Publications (most Notably Professional Pilot Magazine) over the Years. Some of these articles have won him the Respect of many Aviation OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers).

He has sat of the Panel of Judges in the 1999 Professional Pilot Magazine Board of Flight Support Organizations Judging Committee and his Organization Zero Eight Papa Aviation Services as well as he has won numerous Safety and Operational Awards over the past Decade.

Please Reconsider Re-Instating this Article on "JAVIER FERREA" as there are many Articles on Wikipedia that cannot be substantiated with Factual Information! This one can and it was clearly stated under REFERENCES & EXTERNAL LINKS!

Respectfully - BoeingTwin ~ ~ ~ ~

~ ~ ~ ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boeingtwin (talkcontribs) 16:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Dorrance is a selfpublishing house, so there's no indication of notability as an author. The other items don't appear to satisfy WP:BIO, and the claims aren't supported by reliable independent sources per WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)


Hello NawlinWiki. Here's a cookie! You're on your game today, deleting pages before I can even tag em!

Nawlinwiki : Please stop deleting articles for the sake of Wikipedia. It is not a Game site. Don't try to play a game with Newbies of Wikipedia. Samyo (talk) 10:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Why is my page being deleted?[edit]

So I've attempted to create a page today called NEOS Geosolutions which I guess has been deleted by you because it's claimed to been promotional or not notable for a company.

But the thing is that the page isn't promotional at all, just sort of stating what they do. There are tons of pages like that here on Wikipedia. In fact, I structured mine after another page here on wikipedia. The company is notable too, so I'm not quite sure what needs to be modified.

Can you please give me some feedback about what specifically was wrong with the page so that I can resubmit it?

Should I post the content here again so that you can review it and possibly point out what needs to be changed?

Thanks. Mixmastermiike (talk) 17:33, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

There was nothing in the article as written to indicate that this company was at all notable. Additionally, the language was promotional, as if you were trying to explain why the company should be employed. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm. I'm not sure what notable entails I guess then. Did you mean that the first paragraph was promotional? I can rewrite some of it. Everything else besides that is okay though, right? Mixmastermiike (talk) 17:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Notable: So important that, 100 years from now, an encyclopedia will be incomplete without an article about this subject. The East India Company is notable. So is Coca-Cola. But many, many organizations that are currently doing business- in fact, most organizations that are currently doing business- are not. One way to approach this is to avoid writing about your own company: if the only people interested in writing about a company are its employees, that company is probably not notable. If a company is notable, its employees don't need to write about it, because there are so many other people already doing it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:45, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

That seems so subjective though as there are a ton of company pages on wikipedia that I know for a fact do not subscribe to the "notable" methodology as mentioned above. If I were to include references to press releases and other newsworthy materials about the company, would that solve my issue so that the page could be posted? I think that might be what is lacking. Also, in my original copy, the first paragraph might need to be reworded to seem less promotional, but I think that is it, right?? Everything else is just history and a description of products...

Thanks, Mixmastermiike (talk) 17:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

The "Look at this bad article!" argument is an argument for the deletion of those articles, not for the inclusion of yours. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Are you saying, then, that you are not an employee of this company? If you are an employee of the company, then you have a conflict of interest that makes this the wrong subject for you to write about, and you should choose to do your volunteering at Wikipedia in other areas. Press releases and materials from the company wouldn't be at all useful, since Wikipedia's information must be verified by sources independent of the subject. If you see articles about subjects that don't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria, the helpful thing to do is to either rewrite them with neutral language and better sources, or, if you can't, tag them for deletion- it doesn't help the encyclopedia at all to respond to bad articles by writing more bad articles. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

I am NOT an employee of this company. I have no conflict of interest with posting this company's page. Personally, I find this is getting a bit strange as I mentioned that this company page is not intended for promotional use - only informative use for interested users to find useful resources about this company on the web similar to many other company pages on the wikipedia site. I guess I am wondering what kind of references would be needed to make my page more notable and so that it could be posted. Lil guidance? Thanks, Mixmastermiike (talk) 18:24, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

I have linked to the notability criteria and the reliable source guidelines several times, so I am assuming that you've read them. Can you be a little more specific about your questions? 'Lil guidance' doesn't help me understand which part of the guidelines is still confusing you after reading them. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
This is strange- not only can I not find any reliable, independent sources of information about NEOS Geosolutions, I can't find any information about the company at all. I can't even verify that it exists. If, as you say, you are entirely unconnected with the company, where are you getting your information? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Orange Mike : Are u really Orange or You and Nawlinwiki are same??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samyo (talkcontribs) 10:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Westbrook Technologies[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Westbrook Technologies. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Odonnetp (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Owain Park[edit]

I declined a CSD tag on this article because it claimed notability for the subject - competition wins and the like. I am not sure it would survive AfD, but I didn't consider it to be speedy deletable. I see you have deleted it; are you sure it should not be debated? I42 (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Fair enough - restored and sent to AFD. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:41, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I think your rationale at the AfD is correct, btw. I42 (talk) 23:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Massiel Micheli[edit]

~ Massiel Micheli is a photographer/singer/songwriter/writer well known here in the dominican republic, many people know her and wished they had there biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilusionia (talkcontribs) 23:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

can i post a data about church — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samnesan (talkcontribs) 05:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

why why?[edit]

why did you delete the elk manifesto article, i was going to write a school essay about it and now i can't find any info on it anymore.

skit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkmkmkmkmkmkmkmkmkmk (talkcontribs) 13:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Bookworm Short Stories[edit]

Hi, I proposed the speedy deletion of Bookworm Short Stories because of the obvious hoaxes (I read the series before) and poorly sourced information. Moreover the article has previously been nominated for speedy deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bookworm Short Stories). I'm not sure how to go about doing this, please forgive me if I'm not going by the proper protocol! Mylife2702 (talk) 13:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

  • The series clearly exists, so the solution is to remove the false information rather than to delete the article. I've reverted to an earlier version. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 13:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
    • I saw that you reverted to an earlier, more accurate version. Thanks loads! Mylife2702 (talk) 13:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[edit] (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Given the impropriety of its unblock request, you might want to remove talk page privileges for the duration of the block. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedily deleted page.[edit]

Can you please restore the page Construction Specialties, Inc. since the page that was referenced as being duplicate content was a site which was totally unrelated to the page that was removed? We were in the process of adding the "Hang On" but the speedily deletion was faster than us.

Spreisz (talk) 15:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC) spreisz

Top Gun Youth Sports Magazine clarification[edit]

Are you sure magazines can be speedy deleted under A7? Also, your edit summary isn't technically correct, seeing as the prod wasn't expired. Guoguo12--Talk--  15:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Well, arguably, it's an organization per WP:CORP or WP:ORG. Reinstate it with the prod notice if you think it's important or has any chance of being kept. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
    • Okay, point taken. WP:SNOW applies in any case; I simply tend to exemplify "pointy, bureaucratic behavior". Thanks for replying. :) Guoguo12--Talk--  16:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

DELETION OF 'Joel Krupa'. There are pages all over the internet that show proof that I am an author. There is no reason at all that the page should have been deleted. None whatsoever. I'm new to this and would like help if possible. If I stepped on someone's toes (and I can't imagine how or why) then I'm sorry. But PLEASE...if you need links to prove the page is a real one, then so be it. Doesn't it ask Administrators to double check first? Obviously not, or the page would still REMAIN. Digital HorrorDigitalHorror (talk) 16:27, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

  • First, you shouldn't be writing about yourself, see WP:AUTO, WP:SPAM, WP:COI. Second, it's not enough that "there are pages all over the internet" that show you to be an author. We need reliable independent sources showing that a person who is the subject of an article meets the notability standards of WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)