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Edit to List of Islands of Turkey/Ekinlik Island[edit]

Dear Nedim Ardoğa,

Thank you for your contribution to the page List of islands of Turkey. Your contribution is appreciated.

Hope you have a nice day, Dylan. Cricketer993 (talk) 03:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Geo barnstar[edit]

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Hi Nedim Ardoğa! You deserve this barnstar for your contribution of numerous articles on geography of Turkey. Keep it ıp! CeeGee 18:15, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you CeeGee. I am flattered. I wish we could have more contributers on Turkish-geo topics.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Ottoman Algeria[edit]

Hello Nedim Ardoğa. I saw that you are interested in ottoman history. So, Can you take a look at this? Regards.--Aṭlas (talk) 16:51, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Human chain against nuclear plant in Turkey for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Human chain against nuclear plant in Turkey is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Human chain against nuclear plant in Turkey until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ysangkok (talk) 10:32, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Ercüment Ekrem Talu[edit]

Hi Nedim Ardoğa! The article Ercüment Ekrem Talu shows some typos relating to his birth year:

  • 1- Ercüment Ekrem Talu (1886–1956) was a Turkish writer, ...
  • 2- He was born in İstanbul in 1988.
  • 3- Born 1888 (infobox)

Please check. Cheers. CeeGee 16:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Page move request at Talk:Menteşe (beylik)[edit]

Hi! There is a page move request at an article where you have made some major contributions, Menteşe (beylik). I'd love to have your input! Cheers, Constantine 16:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

'Abd al-Hamid ibn Turk[edit]

Hi Nedim. I am back again to beg for your assistance!

Do you have access to this book?

  • Yavuz Unat, Ortaçağ İslam dünyası'nda bilim ve teknik: makaleler, p. 130

It is non-viewable from Kansas.[1] Yavuz Unat, is listed as a Prof. of History of Science, so he is a reliable source. As for the book, specifically anything about al-Hamid ibn Turk and/or his ethnicity. Of course, I would accept any other reliable source that mentions al-Hamid ibn Turk. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:01, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Bığbığ Ivy[edit]

Hi Ndim Ardoğa! I see that you've changed the location of the old tree. However, none of the present sources refer to your change. Can you please provide your source. Thanks. CeeGee 03:49, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know the exact location of the tree and I haven't changed it. I only specified the village. There is no village named "Meydan" in Adana Province. Meydan is a yayla (temporary summer settlement without a legal entity) of Ceritler village . So I renamed the village Ceritler. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:32, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
  • So, you say it is original research. Ref #1 says Meydan Yaylası, ref #2 says Meydan Köy. I will change the location to Meydan Yayla according to ref #1, however, we do not have any source for other location names. Cheers. CeeGee 14:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Archaeology in Turkey has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Archaeology in Turkey, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.

They are attacking me![edit]

On Palindrome article there's a palindrome like that: "Was it a cat I saw?" (Read it from right to left) They changed it into "Was it a car or a cat I saw?" Yes, this is also a palindrome... but it's meaningless... I corrected it and they began to attack! (You can click "View History" page of Palindrome article and you can see who are attacking. I won't write their names here.) / The problem is they are attacking! They even don't care about this simple palindrome. They even don't care about Palindrome article. Did you understand? Regards, Böri (talk) 08:07, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi Nedim, I'm not too entirely sure at the moment; was Cyprus considered an European territory in the Ottoman era, and does the Ottoman-related historiography regard it as such? I think it doesn't, am I right? I'm wondering this, because Marcocapelle has taken the courtesy to do some more in depth categorization, but I believe that he made a small error by adding the "History of the Ottoman Empire in Europe" categories to "Ottoman Georgia", "Cyprus and Ottoman Cyprus. Thoughts? All the best - LouisAragon (talk) 03:40, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Ottomans used the names Anadolu (Anatolia) and Rumeli (Thrace) . They didn't use the names of the continents. I don't think they ever considered Cyprus as a part of Europe. (However administratively, Cyprus was a part of Eyalet of the Archipelago which was a naval eyalet). Maybe in cat-usage the current classification is used. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:16, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have been more precise. I meant the contemporary sources about Ottoman historiography. I'm not entirely sure what Marcocapelle's intentions were with the categorization. I'll wait for his opinion about it as well. Thanks anyways so far - LouisAragon (talk) 16:15, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
  • I'm fine if you'd remove the European parent if that would be too anachronistic. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:17, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Alrightttt. I'll leave it then as it currently is, for the sake of coherence. - LouisAragon (talk) 18:48, 13 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi, Your article List of 2015 box office number-one films in Turkey is added to the list in Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Turkey).Please feel free to revert it if you disagree. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:19, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Mirada (talk) 17:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi Logom, you have created a number of articles about political parties in Turkey. Would you like to add these to the list in Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Turkey) ? Cheers Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:01, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Bilgilendirdiğiniz için teşekkürler. Bundan zevk duyarım. --Logom (talk) 10:10, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Some articles that may be of interest[edit]

Hi Nedim

I noticed that your a very big contributor to Turkey related articles and recently i edited two articles on Turkey regarding relations with Albania and Kosovo. Could you have a look at them (Albania–Turkey relations & Kosovo–Turkey relations) and give some commentary about improvements. Any advice or edits are much appreciated. Best.Resnjari (talk) 08:47, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

NOT an occupation![edit]

There's an article like that: Turkish occupation of North Syria On talk page of that article, I wrote that it's not an occupation. Please give your support. Böri (talk) 08:16, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. / but you said (but you didn't sign your name, so I didn't understand that you wrote it)the name should be: Free Syrian Army offensive in North Syria / now the title is: Free Syrian Army offensive in Syria (North was NOT written!) /It should be North or Northern? Böri (talk) 09:34, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I think the adjective "north" is not necessary. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

March 2017[edit]

Information icon Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus, as you did to Turkish occupation of northern Syria. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. Editor abcdef (talk) 11:15, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Well I didn't know that there was a discussion. (The only tag was about merging) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:18, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
You should not use the word "OCCUPATION"... This is Anti-Turkism Böri (talk) 11:39, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
That's not a valid reason for an unilateral and controversial move. Regardless of it being anti-Turkish or whatever you will need to request a move at the article's talk page. Similarly the article Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon is at so and not at "South Lebanon Army offensive in Lebanon". Editor abcdef (talk) 02:12, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
It's not the same! Böri (talk) 07:04, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Sini (Turkish dining)[edit]

Thanks for adding Sini (Turkish dining) to the large project about Turkey. I started the article because someone posted the picture and said it needed an accompanying article. I did some research and Skyped with a friend who has lived in Turkey and whose wife is Turkish. He gave me some background on the tray and gave me some words. I think the article is a pretty good one, considering my extreme lack of knowledge about the subject matter. I would be grateful to anyone who could improve the article. My friend gave me the Turkish words in the article and in the caption to the photo. I got the Turkish spelling of Yogurt from that article. For the rest of the Turkish words, I am ignorant of the Turkish spelling and would love to have someone 'fix' them. Lou Sander (talk) 22:26, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Karapınar[edit]

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Category:Ottoman caravanserais in Macedonia has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Ottoman caravanserais in Macedonia, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Beymelek Wildlife Reserve[edit]

Hi Nedim Ardoğa! I came across your newest article "Beymelek Wildlife Reserve". I checked out the name "Beymelek Kuş Cenneti", and found nothing. The sources say about "Beymelek Dalyanı" and "Beymelek Lagünü", which can be translated as "Beymelek Fishery" and "Beymelek Lagoon". A reference for "wildlife reserve" is nowhere mentioned. Would you please clarify the matter. Thank you. CeeGee 04:55, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning. The best Turkish title could be Doğal Yaşam Alanı which is quite out of every day usage. That's why I used Kuş Cenneti. Well please feel free to move the title. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)


"This user loves problem solving."

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Thank you for quality articles about Turkish topics such as an early Ottoman naval expeditions in the Indian Ocean and many biographies of historic personalities such as Safranbolulu Izzet Mehmet Pasha, for beautiful images, for "This user loves problem solving." - have a rakı, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
I am flattered. Greetings, Grüße and Selamlar. For rakı Cheers, Prost and Sağlığınıza ! Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Cheers, love it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Tarsus Çanakkale Park Museum[edit]

Hi Nedim Ardoğa! I had copyedited the article for improvement purposes. I see that you have reverted my edits, and so the improvements were gone forever. I am not able to understand the raason. One extra point I wanna add: Commonly, ships are mentioned feminine. Cheers. CeeGee 18:51, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree with your comment on the ship gender. That was a mistake and I'm gonna fix it. Most of your edits are there except that the ship was not a replica. (Actually I heard that there is a replica of Nusrat. But it is I believe in Çanakkale and not in Tarsus.) Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:00, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
  • In the beginning I mixed up that ship in Tarsus with the one in Çanakkale, and edited the article as the ship is a replica. However, soon I discovered that it isn't. So, I reveerted my edits about replica. Although my latest version was correct, All my edits were reverted. CeeGee 20:00, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but I used the reference. As you can see it reads width. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
  • It is anyway not correct with the ship name convention and the beam. CeeGee 04:07, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Note: "Do not put quotations in italics ..." See WP:Quotations#Formatting CeeGee 04:07, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Dear Nedim Ardoğa! I guess I owe you an explanation for posting notes on your talk page rather than on the talk page of an article. It is our main interest to improve WP Turkey, and you do really a great job for this. However, sometimes things happen I can not understand and are not right. For example: the article "Tarsus Çanakkale Park Museum" created by you. As I noticed some discrepancies with WP conventions, I copyedited it. However, you have completely reverted it and so my good edits, which means that you own the article. As you know this not acceptable. You have corrected some of the discrepancies after my note in your talk page. However, the other ones were ignored by you. I mean that as you reverted my edits you are responsible to correct them according to the WP conventions I added. You cannot expect the errors will be corrected by others when you have reverted them before. Your such behavior occurred also a few times in the past. I find this is not fair. You have to correct an error if you cause it. Cheers. CeeGee 08:12, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Lake Akyayan[edit]

Hello Nedim Ardoğa! I guess there is a confusion with the article Lake Akyayan. I am not sure whether the article is about the Lake Akyayan as titled or about the "Lake Akyatan" as indicated by the coords. Then, both lakes are close to each other. The article titled "Lake Akyayan" says "Akyatan" in the beginning of the second paragraph. It needs a clarification and correction if needed. Thanks. CeeGee 07:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks I just fixed it. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:18, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Please note that ref #1 is an untrusted page. Ref #3 is about the Lake Akyatan. The coords of the article show Lake Akyatan not Lake Akyayan. CeeGee 04:13, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, 1st reference is not a https source so I removed it. But there is no problem with the 3rd (now 2nd.). Please read the 3rd paragraph of the reference which compares Ayyayan with the Akyatan. The trouble is that the names of two neighbor lakes are very similar and they are sometimes confused. I check them in Geography Atlas. Akyatan is the lake to the west of Karataş and Akyayan is the name of the lake to the east of Karataş. The coordinates are OK. This article refers to Akyayan. (There are some other names of this lake. But I want to follow the convention in the list of lakes of Turkey created in 2007. So I used this rather awkward name.) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:50, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
  • The corrds are definitely not correct. They show the "Lake Akyatan". However, the article is about the "Lake Akyayan". Please recheck CeeGee 14:03, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
Akyatan is the bigger of the two at 36°37′N 35°16′E / 36.617°N 35.267°E / 36.617; 35.267. Akyayan is smaller and to the east at 36°36′N 35°31′E / 36.600°N 35.517°E / 36.600; 35.517. (By the way it is best to carry such discussions in the article talk pages rather than the personal talk pages) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2017 (UTC)