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Unless I specify otherwise, any uninvolved admin may undo any of my admin actions without checking with me first if they feel my input isn't necessary. NeilN
If you feel that I have reverted an edit or issued a warning in error, please let me know. I am human, and I do make mistakes. Please don't interpret an error on my part as a personal attack on you. It's not, I promise. I ask you to simply bring it to my attention; I am always open to civil discussion. Thank you. NeilN
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29 July 2015


Rajiv Malhotra[edit]

Please take a look at the history of the Rajiv Malhotra page. Edit warring has been taking place on this page and now i see a newly registered editor (DharmoRakshati) making his first edit on this page where he begins with edit warring. The controversial section pertains to a recent controversy where it has been alleged that Malhotra is guilty of plagiarism. Please consider semi-protecting this page for some time.Soham321 (talk) 06:03, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Soham321, another admin has applied full protection. --NeilN talk to me 12:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Protection level of Cory in the House[edit]

Hi Neil, given the history of protection and vandalism, especially that the PC1 you applied hasn't slowed it down I think it's probably worth putting a long-term if not indef semi on it. Before I do it, I thought I might check with you. Regards, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Callanecc, indef semi applied. --NeilN talk to me 12:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:29, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Please improve the article Kasamh Se[edit]

I have submitted an edit request in the talk page of Kasamh Se having provided some reliable sources to improve upon the Awards Section of the article. Since you protected the article, then being a registered user, it's your very own responsibility to make constructive edits in the article to make it more concise. Is it that you are fond of doing only destructive edits? I have myself watched the award shows in which Kasamh Se was awarded many awards. The Indian soap opera has won about 25 awards which were enlisted in the previous edits but you reverted them claiming the cited sources to be unreliable. If you find the sources to be unreliable, why don't you find yourself reliable sources. If you don't have enough time, then leave the work on other editors who have time. But how could it be? You have simply protected the whole article making worthy editors unable to improve the article. It is quite unbearable that in many articles of Indian soap opera, the awards section do not have even a single reference and even then the award section have not been removed in those articles just like what you did in Kasamh Se. Why don't you concentrate on those articles? One such article is Kahiin to Hoga. Please unprotect the article Kasamh Se so that other editors can also make worthy contributions. If you can't do it, then please do respond to my edit request mentioned on the talk page of Kasamh Se. Vibha Ashan (talk) 10:08, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Vibha Ashan, the article was protected because IPs (I'm guessing those were yours?) were adding poorly sourced information to the article. You've also made some incorrect statements. I have not edited the article and if you want content added, it is your responsibility to provide proper sources. Also, I see that your edit request was answered by two other editors (one of them an admin) who told you why your sources were not reliable. Adding content sourced to blogs is not improving the article. --NeilN talk to me 12:47, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

More Need1521 socks[edit]

I noticed that you blocked a sock of Need1521 earlier. They've returned as the ips User: and User: and are now making unconstructive edits to the SPI and to the talk page of me and OneLittleMouse, another user who has contributed to the SPI. Valenciano (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Valenciano, socks blocked, SPI page protected. --NeilN talk to me 19:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Bella and the Bulldogs[edit]

What's the deal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauXnetiX (talkcontribs) 00:40, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FauXnetiX The deal is that you are edit warring on a BLP. You need to stop immediately and discuss using the article's talk page. --NeilN talk to me 00:44, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Then please head over there and moderate. I've provide sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauXnetiX (talkcontribs) 00:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FauXnetiX Thank you for opening a discussion. Now please wait for others to reply. --NeilN talk to me 00:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

And how long do I have to wait before I can re-edit the page? If the only response I get is a revert then the issue becomes that the person(s) don't want the page edited because they don't like the content rather than the content being incorrect.FauXnetiX (talk) 00:54, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FauXnetiX, give other editors a couple days to reply. --NeilN talk to me 00:56, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Question about ANI archiving[edit]

Hi NeilN! Quick question. A bot archived three discussions on the ANI page See here, the one that I was involved in hadn't really resulted in a decision on the (imho) offending editor's behavior. Is that usual? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 03:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Onel5969: The bot looks at the date of the last post in the section and if it's older than a certain number of days, decides the conversation is done and archives the section. You can undo the archiving if you really want (don't forget to undo the archive addition as well) and make a new post to that section. --NeilN talk to me 03:16, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I just want to check that I am doing this right[edit]

Neil, I just want to make sure that I'm doing this right and not screwing things up. First of all, thanks for the latest round of protections. These vandals aren't going to achieve anything by being so petty, and the site will remain safe, but the temporary protection does help. I suppose that's part of the process.
Second of all, a few more unprotected articles just got hit again, by all new IP addresses: Madhhab (not protected), Quranic literalism, Sirat al-Jahim, Ben Sediq Abdelaziz, File:Ben Sediq Abdelaziz 1.jpg, Template:Sindhi Scholars and The first four Sunni Caliphs and the Sunnah. Either the loser and his/her friends are jumping from computer to computer all to make some kind of a point to me personally (it hasn't been made successfully, all I see is that they have no lives), or they have some means of switching IP addresses rapidly. Either way, they're slowly going around reverting changes I've made, even small ones like putting brackets around the title of a linked Wikipedia article.
My question is: there's no limit on how often I can go to the protection request board, is there? I have no problem doing this indefinitely if it means protecting the encyclopedia and you did say that was the best we can do, but I wanted to check once more that I'm following all the correct protocol. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:24, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi MezzoMezzo, there's no limit. I've protected the pages you listed above but please revert to the correct version. --NeilN talk to me 13:15, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


Hey Neil. This editor, RAKESHmanu, has repeatedly been adding incorrectly licensed movie posters to Bollywood film articles. His entire talk page is filled with and deletion tags and repeated warnings, but he never responds to them and goes on with the same edits. Any suggestion on how to deal with him/her? --Krimuk|90 (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Krimuk90: Blocked until they start communicating. --NeilN talk to me 13:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for such a prompt response. :) --Krimuk|90 (talk) 13:22, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FC Arsenal-Kyiv Kyiv and the dispute tag[edit]

Could I ask you to please place the dispute tag below the redirect, not above it? Placing it above makes the redirect non-functional and, worse, puts the page on the Short Pages report. I would normally fix this kind of thing myself, but I don't want to edit through an admin lock like that. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@TexasAndroid: Sorry, done. --NeilN talk to me 13:25, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
TY. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

St Edward's Church of England School protection[edit]

Good decision on the referenced page ! Thanks very much, PKT(alk) 15:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@PKT: You're welcome. Hope it helps. --NeilN talk to me 15:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Louis Belasco[edit]

Good block although he needs to be told if he uses the word cunt again he'll be blocked. Shall I do that? Doug Weller (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Doug Weller, I'm in the process of writing a note. --NeilN talk to me 20:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


Didn't mean that, finger slipped. WCMemail 20:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Wee Curry Monster: No worries, figured that. --NeilN talk to me 20:46, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Tajiks page protection[edit]

Hi! I've noticed that you just protected the page Tajiks, which, of course, I agree with. The page is undergoing a massive edit-war (you know that, that is the reason you protected). I have no relation to Tajiks or anything similar, but I came to know about this case as a sockpuppet investigation clerk while reviewing Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Beh-nam. The case is basically this: there are two users: Scytsari (alleged sockpuppet in the said case) and Jeppiz who want to add to the infobox images of various persons for whom thay have no sources to prove they are/were Tajiks. I initiated a calmed-down argumented discussion on the talk page (Talk:Tajiks#Who should be included in the infobox and why) trying to resolve the case while the page was protected for the first time (by you). Scytsari took no part in the discussion and openly said that he doesn't want to take part [1]. All editors taking part in the discussion agreed that those images should be removed, except Jeppiz, but even he admitted he has no sources to prove those persons were Tajiks. After the page protection expired, Scytsari immediately re-added the images, while I tried to remove them. Now, you protected the page for the second time, but for the second time, you protected it in the "wrong" state (against the clear consensus, with unsourced images added). Now, I don't give a damn about Tajiks, but I just think that it is bad for Wikipedia to have one such article protected in the state that clearly violates WP:Verifiability and WP:consensus. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Come on Vanjagenije, as an experienced editor you should know about WP:WRONGVERSION and not to revert three times on an article that has just had full protection lifted. It would have been a lot easier if the SPI was resolved or if you had shown some patience and not reverted three times. --NeilN talk to me 22:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Whatever, I just thought that unverified content that we agreed on the talk page to remove should be removed. I guess I was wrong. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


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Many thanks[edit]

... for dealing with my impersonator so promptly. General Ization Talk 00:16, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

A cupcake for you![edit]

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg Thanks for protecting Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. That saves us all a big headache. GAB (talk) 01:23, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

GAB, you're welcome. Good protection request. --NeilN talk to me 01:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Your ping[edit]

Hi, NeilN. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated. Now that I look at it, my report was a bit of a reach. Sorry. ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 04:32, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Derp. I just now realized what you were referring to. In a nutshell, it was my bad. He made an revert here, and I didn't notice his edit summary until after I restored it back. I realized my mistake and left him a message. What I forgot to do was remove my AIV report. Thanks for catching that and I appreciate you for letting me know. ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 04:43, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Airport vandal by Indonesian IP[edit]

Hello NeilN. Many thanks to you for blocking Do you mind to investigate due to his/her disruptive edits? I believe both IPs belong to the same person. Tafeax (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

@Tafeax: Blocked by Glen. If the articles are disrupted again after protection expires, let me know. --NeilN talk to me 05:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

IP block[edit]

I wonder if you could kindly re-block User:, who has been up their old tricks again. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC).

Rich, done. --NeilN talk to me 00:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


Hi I am a member of Inkubus Sukkubus, and am requesting that the page be locked so that only registered users can make edits. The page has been under constant attack by what appears to be the same person, using different IP addresses, it had just been re-vandalized I cannot change it myself as I have been told that as a member of the band I am not allowed to. Thanks Vampiredivision (talk) 10:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Vampiredivision. The page is under pending changes protection which means readers of the article will never see IP edits unless a registered editor approves them. --NeilN talk to me 13:52, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank YouVampiredivision (talk) 17:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much.......[edit]

....for protecting Wikipedia's long term abuse page of the New Order vandal. The only question left is...



Malmsimp (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

@Malmsimp: Looks like all the disruption was caught. [2] --NeilN talk to me 19:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Dead link[edit]

I'm working my way though trying to correct dead links, if I don't do it, why don't you do it rather than just keep sending messages and do something useful — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyredandblack (talkcontribs) 20:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Luckyredandblack, replacing a dead link with a link to an escort agency is not useful. --NeilN talk to me 20:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you'd like to find another alternative working link or delete the dead link together (and do something useful) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyredandblack (talkcontribs) 20:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Removing spam links is "something useful". —C.Fred (talk) 20:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Luckyredandblack, we don't replace dead links with spam or unreliable sources. I hope that's not what you're doing on other articles. I have removed your link once again. The content already has one source. --NeilN talk to me 20:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Finally you understand - that wasn't too hard was it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyredandblack (talkcontribs) 20:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Bikram Singh Majithia[edit]

Hey Neil, can you please add this and the AshokaChadha‎ to your watchlist and/or take any necessary admin action. I came across this during an AfD I was closing and started off uninvolved, but I'm getting involved now after cleaning up a host of advertorial content and reverting IPSocks and sock accounts (Robin Aanalyst). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:51, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

This edit does confirm he's IPsocking, but as far as the birthday, the election commission filing does seem to support the 1976 that was in the article before these editors hijacked the page. Now add to the list Balraj Singh Grewal. Meh, all this comes from poking my nose after closing an afd! —SpacemanSpiff 07:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
@SpacemanSpiff: Blocked the IP for socking, opened an SPI, requesting a CU: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grandntel --NeilN talk to me 13:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks NeilN. I hadn't seen the older account earlier and assumed it was just IPsocking along with the one other account when I posted here, but apparently not. I'll comment on the SPI. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 14:09, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much, let's hope this stops now. —SpacemanSpiff 18:07, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Neil, can you take a look again please? Usual one edit accounts are back. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Sock blocked, page semied. --NeilN talk to me 13:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


It was inevitable that the yodelling gentleman would resort to legal threats, and the correct decision to block. The challenge is that he has been trying, albeit rather aggressively, to get his own way without seeming to understand what he has been told. He was certainly not here to build an encyclopaedia, so is not a loss to the community. The entire incident does make me concerned, though, that we are not able to handle those who, perhaps, cannot understand what they are told, lumping them together with those who will not understand. I'm not sure which of those categories this gentleman was in. It has seemed to me to be each of them from time to time. Fiddle Faddle 08:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

@Timtrent: The "unwilling or unable to understand" situation happens constantly on Wikipedia. Many of my posts yesterday were addressing an editor exhibiting the same behavior. I think a lot of this is caused by the anonymous online nature of Wikipedia and is mirrored in the corporate world where sometimes the only solution to a "neverending email chain" is a face to face meeting where issues can be hashed out in a real-time conversation. --NeilN talk to me 12:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
However much I wish it were not so, I have to agree with you. One issue I have also experienced, and often, is that unfailing politeness can produce amazing abuse. Such is our lot in life. Fiddle Faddle 13:00, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

CSD of User:OdentheGray[edit]

Can you please explain (no offense intended) how the content of that page would not be considered nonsense? Even when the spelling is corrected, the sentence on the page does not make sense. Thanks in advance, MopSeeker (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi MopSeeker. G1 is "...consisting purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history. This does not include poor writing, vandalism and hoaxes (G3), material not in English, badly translated material, etc." In other words, stuff like "bvbgfvxvddc bgffdekj;ol" or "mamamamapapapapa". I would have deleted the page as a test had it been an article but user pages are an entirely different matter. Many users use them as test pages or to keep notes to themselves (sometimes very poorly written) and deleting them is unnecessarily bitey. --NeilN talk to me 15:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)(edit conflict)@MopSeeker: The challenge with user pages is that they may contain any manner of stuff unless that stuff breaches a policy. This one contains, well, something. Often it is wisest to smile and nod and move away, marvelling at life's rich pageant and tapestry, a phrase I blame an aunt of mine for. You could always ask the editor what they mean, of course. Fiddle Faddle 15:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
So G1 applies less strictly to user pages? Does it apply at all? Is the text not incoherent enough for its application? MopSeeker (talk) 01:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
MopSeeker, I've never seen an admin use G1 to delete a user page. --NeilN talk to me 03:14, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Cozi Zuehlsdorff[edit]

I didn't do it any thing wrong for that editing Cozi Zuehlsdorff , they need her profile picture , birthdate , birthplace and that's all of it and that's life they need and bio is life to see Renzoolivares (talk) 18:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Renzoolivares. The birth date and place need to come from a reliable source and the picture needs to be in the public domain or have a free use license. --NeilN talk to me 18:15, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

I have already my licensing picture File:CoziZuehlsdorff6912 and can u unlocked the Cozi Zuehlsdorff profile and I didn't do anything wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renzoolivares (talkcontribs) 19:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Renzoolivares, the file you linked to doesn't exist and the article will be unlocked in a couple days. However if you continue to add unsourced information after protection expires you'll be probably eventually blocked. --NeilN talk to me 19:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Faculty2 long term hoaxer?[edit]

Which long term incident / sockpuppeteer / hoaxer is that? Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 21:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Georgewilliamherbert, it's the same "Coleman is a professor in Cairo" hoax that has been tried for years. I was writing up an ANI post to get an uninvolved admin to have a look. Should I continue? --NeilN talk to me 22:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Is there a long-term abuse page for it yet? I don't see one; if you know the pattern you're probably best to put it in. I blocked this one now. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:08, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Georgewilliamherbert, excellent idea. If there isn't one, I'll work on creating it. --NeilN talk to me 22:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Two Lee Corso replacement reverts I've done[edit]

Here's the two reverts I've done: [3] (today) [4] (July 6) Stevie is the man! TalkWork 00:13, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Thanks, one was blocked earlier and I just blocked the one who popped up today. If I'm not around or you want to report to AIV or ANI, just point to the sockpuppet investigation and indicate the editor should be blocked indefinitely. --NeilN talk to me 00:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I think the vandalism at Woody Paige is related. It's very similar in style and timing. Can you please protect that article, too? ElKevbo (talk) 06:49, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

ElKevbo, it's the same vandal. The Paige article is semi-protected but if it gets hit again today I'll bump it up to a full. --NeilN talk to me 13:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Another one: User:CodyfoleY with this reversion. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 00:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Thanks, blocked. --NeilN talk to me 01:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Two more users, this time trying to the make the redirect "Leland Corso" the whole article: User:AbzButtlesron and User:TapatThreeZabs. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 08:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Thank you. I've blocked the accounts and deleted and salted the redirect as it was created by a blocked user. --NeilN talk to me 14:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Uninvolved Admin[edit]

Hi Neil, I would request you to consider giving your opinion, as an uninvolved Admin, on an ARCA discussion featuring me: Soham321 (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Soham321, if I have something useful to say, I'll weigh in, but I tend to stay out of AE matters I'm not familiar with. --NeilN talk to me 01:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[edit]

Good morning. You blocked this IP recently for edit warring, but he immediately returned to warring the same article (Mary Calvi) as soon as the block expired. I've put a warning on his talk page, but he hasn't shown any particular propensity for heeding warnings -- or even engaging in dialogue. Thanks, DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 15:57, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi DoctorJoeE. I think you've misread the timestamps. I blocked the IP a few hours ago for the first time. I also reblocked the master Truthteller910. --NeilN talk to me 16:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Oops, sorry about that. I'm a bit late for my second cup of coffee. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 16:10, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, now I'm apparently a "fucking asshole". I assume this is the same troll, although you're better equipped to determine that than I. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 17:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
@DoctorJoeE: I take it you're not? :-) Page protected, edit summary deleted, user indef blocked per WP:NOTHERE for this and past edits. --NeilN talk to me 17:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps I'd better check with my wife before answering that. ;-) Appreciate your prompt application of troll spray. Cheers, DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Edit summary revdel request[edit]

Can you hide the last two edit summaries at Lynda Thomas? These summaries appear to make BLP accusations. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm... It's just the last one edit summary. Binksternet (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
@Binksternet: Yes, got that. Warned user. --NeilN talk to me 17:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Page protection[edit]

Congrats on becoming an admin (If I remember correctly you weren't one a few months ago). Could you take a look at this. Multiple accounts, particularly socks of User:Eulalefty have had an issue with the mention of Ahmadiyya on Muslim population growth for a few months.--Peaceworld 18:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Peaceworld111: Thanks, got the bit in June. I've fully protected the page for two days for the edit dispute. That should be enough time to resolve the socking issue (it's not a WP:DUCK for me so a checkuser will be helpful). --NeilN talk to me 18:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.--Peaceworld 18:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
@Peaceworld111: CU came back and the socks are blocked so I've unprotected the article. If new socks show up please either report to WP:RFPP (include a link to the SPI) or let me know. --NeilN talk to me 03:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Protection at Ted Strickland[edit]

Thank you for protecting the Ted Strickland article. Any objections if I undo the last edit by the IP, whose continued re-entry of disputed material without discussion is what led to the protection? —C.Fred (talk) 18:19, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@C.Fred: No objections as the article was only semi-protected because of IPs not participating in existing discussion. --NeilN talk to me 18:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
I didn't think there would be a problem, but out of courtesy, I wanted to double-check with you first. Thank you! —C.Fred (talk) 18:25, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

John Kasich[edit]

Just encountered an editor with a fresh account ( User talk:Jjgoatin )who was vandalizing the John Kasich presidential campaign, 2016 page, asserting Kasich as a Catholic, not an Anglican. I gave him warning. However, I believe he may be the same user whose IP Address 9 ( ) was warring over the same subject on the John Kasich bio article, which you subsequently protected. Spartan7W § 02:21, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: Looks like they've stopped. If disruption starts again on that article please let me know or report to WP:RFPP. --NeilN talk to me 03:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
More behavioral evidence to support that theory: Jjgoatin just left this on my Talk page, even though I've had no interaction with that registered user (but I reverted a series of the IP's edits at John Kasich). General Ization Talk 11:59, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
This user is working with an IP Address ( User talk:2602:301:77D2:15E0:B113:B6A6:24DB:18F9 ) to bring unsourced, partisan attacks on the page Ohio's 6th congressional district, and will not stop the vandalism. Spartan7W § 21:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Hmmm. I don't think so; only two (1 2) of that IP's edits seem problematic to me, though both require citations. This one should actually be pretty easy to source, the other more difficult, since I don't know that "most" public workers have been polled on the question. Many Ohio public workers, however, will not support him, for the reason the IP says. That's probably citable. General Ization Talk 21:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Removed until it gets a cite. --NeilN talk to me 21:50, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
User:Jjgoatin has just added Roman Catholic to the Kasich campaign article without getting consensus. FYI Spartan7W § 23:35, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
@Spartan7W: Just doing up a report. BTW, I moved your post to the right article talk page. --NeilN talk to me 23:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
@Spartan7W: Thanks for the report, and moving the post. My ipad insisted that the talk page for the campaign was that of the biography article. Spartan7W § 23:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

This user is going to erupt another edit war on Ohio's 6th congressional district. I removed his reference of gerrymandering, which could not be credibly sourced, and added info in the History section referencing the 2010 election and redistricting as a result of the 2010 census. You can see the talk page where I posted on this matter. I don't want to get in a slippery slope to an edit war on this, but he is unrelenting. Are there any blocks which can be made on this user between now and decision on the John Kasich matter? Spartan7W § 00:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: Because I became involved in content matters I cannot use my admin tools any more with respect to these articles per WP:INVOLVED. I have added an extra note to the edit warring report. --NeilN talk to me 00:58, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG Good Adriano gabriel (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for unblock naveen. Your an intelligent also Wikipedia systems is very powerful. Article.adder.kerala (talk) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your 'Al Albani' page, can you add a picture of him please? JazakAllah khayr :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Offensive sockfarm[edit]

Hi Neil, are you online? There is some kind of high-speed sockfarm attacking Bishonen's pages and posts: [5], [6]. Probably more to come. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Those are Kutsuit's socks. I wish she had better things to do than harass Bish. - NQ (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It's only User:Kutsuit, no biggie, in fact, yawn. My talk is semi'd so she attacks my edits. Finally I've found a use for the "rollback all" script! Neil, if you're there, and you other guys, please take a look at my post at the bottom of ANI, it's more important. I think it's Randi himself. I'm all of a flutter. :-) Bishonen | talk 20:33, 22 July 2015 (UTC).
Bishonen, I semied one of your subpages for two days. And it's funny, the Randi article is on my watchlist and I almost reverted the edit I highlighted at ANI when it was made. --NeilN talk to me 20:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for stopping the edit-war on the sharia page Code16 (talk) 15:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
@Code16: Not sure what I did besides one talk page post but thanks. --NeilN talk to me 18:18, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


When you get a second, would you mind doing a revdel at [7]? Falls into the grossly offensive category. Thanks! agtx 18:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Agtx: Done. --NeilN talk to me 18:16, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Story on List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN page[edit]

Hi NeilN, I'm a UK journalist looking to tell the story of the hard-working people editing the List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN page more often than the pages for Barack Obama, Hitler and Britney Spears. I know you're a major part of the task, particularly protecting the page from vandalism as admin, and I'd like to highlight the great work you're doing, and to learn more about what motivates you. If you'd be interested in talking, my email address is stokel _at_ gmail _dot com_. (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Woody Paige[edit]

I noticed you fully protected this page due to vandalism; however I think this was a bit unnecessary, and that semi-protection would have been sufficient. Would you consider lowering the page protection level there to semi? Everymorning talk 00:30, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Everymorning, both Lee Corso and Woody Paige have been fully protected (Corso by another admin) because of a vandal who has hundreds of accounts. He makes ten edits in his sandbox and then attacks the articles. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jaredgk2008 and archives for some of the accounts. --NeilN talk to me 00:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Censorship Incident Report[edit]

Factual information on current actions of California's sitting governorJerry Brown is being censored in wikipedia.

Information being censored:Jerry Brown informed the Catholic News Service during his visit to Vatican that Junípero Serra's statue will stay on United States Capitol.[1]

I cannot add to what others have already told you. You're going to have to use Talk:Jerry Brown to gain consensus for your addition. --NeilN talk to me 16:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


Using Response Helper?![edit]

Hey I used the response helper since someone (Redrose64) wouldn't help protect a page and told to paste there! — 14:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Redrose64 was correct. I've declined your requests as we don't protect pages preemptively. Please see WP:PROTECT for the policy. --NeilN talk to me 16:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
I know the policies genius all I want is a protected Godzilla (franchise) page to avoid any unnecessary editing to unregistered users, okay?! — 17:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
If you know all the policies then you should know we don't protect articles to "avoid any unnecessary editing to unregistered users". Please stop asking. --NeilN talk to me 17:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

give me work[edit]

give me work or tell me how to do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

That article was created by a blocked editor. If you are that editor, see standard offer. --NeilN talk to me 16:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


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You already warned this user, but they continue unabated with disruptive edits (blanking). Rahibsaleem (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) - Cwobeel (talk) 04:22, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Also posting on my talk page, using a different editor's signature: [8] ??? - Cwobeel (talk) 04:30, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

@Cwobeel: Added various warnings to the editor's talk page. They're already on thin ice. --NeilN talk to me 12:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Using a different editor's signature is WP:SIGFORGE. Besides warning them, you're entitled to replace it with a clean version. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


Hello, I am usually sports related editor but I'm interested in bollywood as well because I'm from Nepal. I had one question how many films does one actor require to have its separate filmography page. Seen long filmography list in many articles so asking you. I want to edit but according to rules. Cheers!!! NextGenSam619t@lk 17:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi NextGenSam619. The number of films is irrelevant. The actor has to meet our notability guidelines. See WP:ENT and WP:BIO. --NeilN talk to me 17:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Nanak Shah Fakir[edit]

Hi NeielN

I put the request to semi protect the page * Nanak Shah Fakir (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), today and even last week also, which was declined, due to not enough IP destruction, I have the special request on this, there are some people on the internet trying hard to put the wrong information about the movie Title, I have seen recently there is the user from IP address, trying alot to revert back the information about the title with the wrong one, can you please aprove to semi protect this page, This movie is about to release soon with the proper aproval from head of religious group world.

please let me know,

Seeking your positive response in this regards

Best Kulvinder Singh 17:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Kulvinders, I have declined your request again. Please read our protection policy, specifically WP:SEMI: "Semi-protection should not be used as a preemptive measure against vandalism that has not yet occurred, nor should it be used to privilege registered users over unregistered users in (valid) content disputes." Issues with one editor can be reported to WP:AIV or WP:ANI. --NeilN talk to me 17:39, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
thank you NeilN, thats what i would like to know otherwise how to block that IP. thank you once again

René Bazinet Photos[edit]

Please refrain from using my photos on his Wikipedia page. I wrote a very comprehensive bio and added the images I took, of René Bazinet, on Wikimedia. Then due to Wikipedia policies, involving lack of published references, was compelled to remove the entire bio, which now only remains on the IMDb site. I do not want my pictures used without my permission. Thank you for your compliance with my wishes that no one use these photos, on Wikipedia or anywhere else, without my authorized permission to do so. Blythe Spirit (talk) 08:35, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Replied here. --NeilN talk to me 13:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

René Bazinet Photos[edit]

I'll ask you once again to please refrain from using my pictures of René Bazinet, without my consent. Common courtesy and consideration should be exercised in such cases and the ownership of a photographer’s work should be respected. I had previously composed and posted a comprehensive profile/bio, of René, only to experience others making inappropriate edits and finally being notified by an administrator that due to a lack of published references it didn’t meet Wikipedia standards, in any event. I had originally added the images, which are copyrighted, to accompany my composition, but was under the misconception that others could only use them with my permission. The policies regarding permission and image utilization were ambiguously stated and I did not interpret them correctly, as it turned out. Neither was I aware that once they were added to Wikimedia I relinquished the opportunity to remove them, from that site. However, after a talk with my lawyer, who assured me that the Wikimedia organization is not entitled to keep them, rather than file a contentious lawsuit in order to protect my work - by demanding their removal - I decided not to press the issue. I’m sure you can understand and appreciate why I wouldn’t want my photographic work to be used by unauthorized people to represent their text, especially, after I deleted all of my contributions, from the René Bazinet page. Thanking you, in advance, for honoring my wishes to cease using the images, I took of René Bazinet. I'm disinclined to give my express approval, of their use, for the above mentioned reasons. Blythe Spirit (talk) 13:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Replied here. --NeilN talk to me 13:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

A chuckle for you[edit]

Hello N. As I scanned the edits of the IP you blocked I was afraid that I had read them too fast that this character was going to show up. I hope that you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 18:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, ha, you're right! And I had no idea the spelling for Keaton's character was Betelgeuse. --NeilN talk to me 18:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I hadn't seen it spelled that way before either - well by that I mean in relation to the film - even as a kid I liked that spelling for the star. It is kinda fun to read the discussion that began in 2008 about this. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

baahubali box office[edit]

I request you to intervene in Baahubali movie box office collections. Actually the movie is primarily a Telugu movie shot simultaneously in Tamil and it is bilingual. It is also dubbed in Hindi and Malayalam too. The story, entire cast and crew including production house is from Telugu. It grossed around Rs 401 crores in 15 days. But it is included in Tamil list of highest grossing films. The Telugu version alone grossed Rs 236 crores The Hindi and Malayalam versions ( dubbed from Telugu) grossed around 120 crores. The Tamil version grossed around Rs 55 crore from India and rest of the world. The above information is from official trade analysts. So I kindly request you to remove from Tamil list which even didn't gross 15% of collections.

baahubali box office[edit]

I request you to intervene in Baahubali movie box office collections. Actually the movie is primarily a Telugu movie shot simultaneously in Tamil and it is bilingual. It is also dubbed in Hindi and Malayalam too. The story, entire cast and crew including production house is from Telugu. It grossed around Rs 401 crores in 15 days. But it is included in Tamil list of highest grossing films. The Telugu version alone grossed Rs 236 crores The Hindi and Malayalam versions ( dubbed from Telugu) grossed around 120 crores. The Tamil version grossed around Rs 55 crore from India and rest of the world. The above information is from official trade analysts. So I kindly request you to remove from Tamil list which even didn't gross 15% of collections. - padukati raju — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talkcontribs)

Note that User:Padukati raju has been informed of the discussion of this topic Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#RfC:_How_should_we_classify_Baahubali. Why they have chosen to come here rather than participate there is unclear. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I'd recommend the list page's protection be upped to semi from pending for a bit, maybe a couple of days. There's a hideous amount of edit-warring from IPs and others over this, and pending is barely slowing it down. Just my two cents. :) --Ebyabe talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 19:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC) Plus I'm suspecting some puppetry of the sock and/or meat kind may be occurring as well. --Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 19:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
@TheRedPenOfDoom and Ebyabe: I have put back the semi that was dropped after the full expired. I don't think we need an editnotice if the semi is there? --NeilN talk to me 19:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Elon Musk[edit]

Could we get a Facebook fansite blacklisted? An IP keeps adding one, which there is no indication is official. The same IP tried adding a Peter Capaldi Facebook fansite a while back, and it did get blacklisted. Then they said that there was a malfunction or something, when it was all about it being a blocked fansite. They were also doing something similar at Annastacia Palaszczuk. It seems to be the IP's raison d'etre or something. I put in a request at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist, but perhaps it could be nudged? Thanks and cheers! :) --Ebyabe talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 00:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

@Ebyabe: I'd have to get up to speed on the blacklist process but I've blocked the IP for two weeks for repeating the same behavior that led to the first block. --NeilN talk to me 00:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, that'll do. Yet I was so looking forward to them calling me a vandal again. :) --Ebyabe talk - State of the Union ‖ 01:01, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Possible speedies?[edit]

Hello again N. I am wondering if this Robert M'mbololo Mwakangalu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and this User:Mmbololo/sandbox/Robert M'mbololo Mwakangalu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) are eligible for speedy deletion. Two different user names but look to be the same person. While I have nominated article for speedy before I just couldn't decide which one applied to these. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 14:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, the first deleted as a WP:A10 and the sandbox page deleted with the same reason. Not a good sign that the Obama article is being copied to a page with an "African" name. --NeilN talk to me 14:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. Good to know for future reference. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

can you look at that liks[edit]

Hardy Sandhus songs Soch AND JOKER AND MANY OTHER and Navjit Buttar.

Navjit Buttar have his fan sir why he can't get his wikipeia. we are fan of him Navjit Buttar — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Judging from your IP, I've already answered your question above. If you are not the blocked editor, please see WP:ENT and WP:BIO for notability criteria. You may want to use the WP:AFC process to create a draft article other editors will review. --NeilN talk to me 16:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk page[edit]

Could you remove this comment (below) from my talk page? It's meant for someone else. Thanks.

Create an account?[edit] Any chance you could create an account? I protected Generation X because of the confirmed sock puppetry [1] but that mean you're blocked from editing as well. --NeilN talk to me 23:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Never mind, now I know what you meant. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 18:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Will you please look at?[edit]

I think we are in need of a block hammer. You fully protected Mary Kom (film) a few days back, the issues are still ongoing. Let me give you a few examples, [9] this section started by Krimuk is saying there is a problem with the reviews and that they are mixed giving several sources to show that the reviews are indeed mixed. Here User:Cyphoidbomb edits away the POV and it is deceptively changed back under the edit summary "clean" and reinserted another time again [10]. It's the same concerns raised on the talkpage under Mixed Reviews and Edit Warring and their userpage. It is also one of the more severe cases of WP:OWN I've seen in a while as well. Berating another user for nominating the article as a FA, [11], [12] and continued through to the talkpage of the article and eventually ends with [13] all the while with the edit warring, NPOV and attacks ongoing. On a side note by the block log it doesn't appear this is the first issue thaey've had with the FA process so the problem might extend to that subject area. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 00:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hell in a Bucket, a block hammer is only going to come courtesy of ANI as the editor, while acting a bit young, is editing in good faith. I've tried to reinforce Cassianto's points here. --NeilN talk to me 03:06, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into, I've seen the concerned inquiries before and we still arrived here but maybe the last two will do the trick. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 03:11, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@Hell in a Bucket: One adjustment: though I did remove the "unanimous" language in that edit, there was another "unanimous" in the article which I did not see until later. I don't think it was snuck back in. Just in case that helps mend any negative perceptions. Regards all, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Shelbychevette and Lukeno94[edit]

You recently blocked Shelbychevette (talk · contribs) for a 5RR edit war on Chevrolet Corvette (C1) (and others). Fair enough. Yet you don't seem to have taken any similar action against Lukeno94, his adversary in all this, the instigator of these changes, a much more experienced editor who ought to know better, and who seems to be winding up everyone (myself included) at WT:CARS. One of the issues he has kicked off there is precisely this removal of engine information. You even felt the need to warn him to not term other people's edits as vandalism.

Why block only the less experienced, and no more involved, party? Andy Dingley (talk) 01:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, given that this editor knew enough about edit warring (without it ever being mentioned on their talk page) to start filling out an WP:ANEW report, I do not think you can consider them as "new". I also offered to unblock (twice) if they started to discuss their edits. As for the talk page, I see this note by another admin, "First, please knock off the chest thumping, gentlemen." Seems there's winding up on both sides. --NeilN talk to me 01:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
With the advice to follow Eric Corbett's lead on behaviour? Come off it! Andy Dingley (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
If you think this editor is a sock, then file an SPI and CU them. They hardly seem familiar with ANEW, looking at that filing. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Andy Dingley, it looks like a perfectly fine start to me, to be followed with diffs. --NeilN talk to me 02:08, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Fortunately you had them blocked within the minute, conveniently avoiding scrutiny of the pair of them.
This isn't about Shelbychevette, it's about how Luke can join in multiple cases of 5RR across articles, to push a change that is already causing pushback at WT:CARS, and he doesn't even get a warning. Edit warring is edit warring. Being "right" is not an excuse, and it's not even a credible claim in this case. Luke was pushing a single-handed change that no-one else wants. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Andy Dingley, then that's a case for WP:DRR. Note I blocked for disruptive editing, not edit warring. --NeilN talk to me 02:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Andy Dingley, I see you've filed a case at ANI against Luke for his subsequent edits. What are you looking from me here? --NeilN talk to me 02:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Then (to rephrase only slightly) why let Luke off from DRR? Andy Dingley (talk) 02:24, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Andy Dingley, as I said before, I twice offered to unblock the other editor if they would start discussing. If that happened, I would expect Luke to join in the discussion. --NeilN talk to me 02:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

As the block (and my sockpuppeting as Shelbychevette!) has been mentioned there, you should be aware of Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Lukeno94_-_out_of_hand.3F Andy Dingley (talk) 11:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

WikiDefender Barnstar Hires.png The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For your excellent work at requests for page protection. You've been going like a machine! Cheers, ceradon (talkcontribs) 05:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Revdel help on my talk page[edit]

User is upset that I removed their articles that should have stayed AFD'ed for lack of notability. Need some revdel before it turns into harrassment. Thanks. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:05, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Reported user[edit]

The user has deleted edits based on the fact that it is not written well, I told the user to fix it if they believe it to be, but they refuse to do so. Instead they resort to deleting the information. (11:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

This is a content dispute, not vandalism. --NeilN talk to me 11:31, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
If you can, then could you ask them to fix the information that they think is incorrect becuase they seem they don't want to listen to IP users. ( (talk) 11:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC))
According to their edit summaries, TheRedPenOfDoom thinks the info does not belong in the article. This is something that can be discussed on the article's talk page. --NeilN talk to me 11:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Well that's not what they said, there is a source provided. They do not think that it is worded properly, here is what they said, "Still malformatted, still undue and still inappropriate tone". ( (talk) 11:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC))
undue is a reference to WP:UNDUE. Essentially, he feels the info is too trivial to be added to the article. --NeilN talk to me 11:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh okay, sorry about that then. ( (talk) 11:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC))
Not your fault. You can't be expected to know wikijargon. --NeilN talk to me 11:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Okay then, thanks for the clarification. ( (talk) 11:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC))


Hi Neil, are there any interfaces (a la Twinkle, for instance) that you'd recommend to a new admin to help make responding to AIV and RPP requests a little easier? Or are we supposed to remember all those various approved/declined/question templates and slap them in manually? Danke, sir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Cyphoidbomb! First of all, congrats! Second, I say a thank you to MusikAnimal every day. Have a look half way down User_talk:NeilN/Archive_24#Thanks_everyone to see scripts you can add. Those, along with Twinkle, make most of RFPP and AIV just button pushing (once you figure out what action to take!). --NeilN talk to me 19:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Aw shucks, glad to be of service! :) For other nifty scripts, you might have a look at User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/SpamUserPage for deleting pages/blocking in one swing, and User:Timotheus Canens/spihelper.js if you plan on working at WP:SPI, and finally User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js for closing AfDs. Welcome aboard Cyphoidbomb! MusikAnimal talk 19:36, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah, brilliant! Thanks Neil, and thanks also, Musik! I hope I don't fuck everything up. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey MusikAnimal, while you're here... got anything to rollback hundreds/thousands of edits? I have Mass Rollback but that opens a tab for every rollback and some bozo just did this. --NeilN talk to me 19:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I didn't realize mass rollback opened up everything in tabs... we can do better than that! I can put an API-driven mass rollback script on the to-dos. As for this bozo, we've already taken care of those contribs, right? MusikAnimal talk 19:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
MusikAnimal I use this. And yes, all the contribs are rolled back. First time I've seen my quad-core i7 pegged at 100% --NeilN talk to me 19:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I always knew that opening up each tab was a silly way to do things. I inherited that script from another user and was just always too lazy to look up how to do it properly. Writ Keeper  21:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: This should be much better, I think. Writ Keeper  04:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Writ Keeper, may be obvious but the new version will still only perform rollbacks when the current version of the article is by the vandal, right? It'll still fail on articles that have already been reverted? --NeilN talk to me 04:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks Writ Keeper! MusikAnimal talk 14:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Yup. This script just calls Wikipedia's rollback function; it will succeed and fail in exactly the same situations that clicking on the rollback link does. Writ Keeper  15:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. --NeilN talk to me 15:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-unusual request...[edit]

Hello again, NeilN! I have a somewhat off-the-wall request: Is there any way I can "see" (or have "sent" to me) the last version of the code of the now-deleted template {{CUE}}? (I have an experiment I'd like to run in "Userspace" using this now-deleted template as my "guinea pig"...) I would have asked the original deleting Admin, Plastikspork, but they have recently retired from Wikipedia, and I really couldn't figure out who else to go to for this request! Thanks for any assistance you can provide on this! --IJBall (contribstalk) 19:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. --NeilN talk to me 20:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


Why hasn't anybody given any attention to my report of user: in Administrators Intervention Against Vandalism? 2602:306:3357:BA0:2D5F:12D9:78A5:49FA (talk) 22:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I suspect because none of the reviewing admins can tell if their contributions are vandalism. Can you specifically point out how they're vandalizing? --NeilN talk to me 22:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
They blanked a page called Template:HC Sochi roster after getting a final warning from user:Pokechu22. 2602:306:3357:BA0:2D5F:12D9:78A5:49FA (talk) 22:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
They are also constantly adding unsourced content. 2602:306:3357:BA0:2D5F:12D9:78A5:49FA (talk) 22:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but given their other edits, that might have been a mistake. Let me post to the hockey project to see what they say. --NeilN talk to me 22:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Public Storage[edit]

The original article was authored by someone in a legal dispute with the company. I now have a financial connection with the article-subject and have proposed a draft on the Talk page here that I think would be more of a legitimate, well-rounded page. The previously involved editors haven't responded yet and I wasn't sure if this kind of thing would interest you. If you feel we should wait longer for previously involved editors that would be fine too. Smartse said on his Talk page that the draft "looks good", but he sort of indicated he wouldn't do anything with it, without checking the sources, which he indicated he is unlikely to spend the time to do. It's always a bit fickle with this kind of thing, because I'm essentially bothering editors about a page they don't really have a genuine interest in. If you have time, to take a look, let me know. CorporateM (Talk) 23:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Infidel vandal[edit]

Don't you think a user who has shown no inclination of being productive, has told one user to die in a hole, and has actually asked to be blocked deserves longer than a31 hour block? ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 00:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: You need to tell me what user you're talking about please. --NeilN talk to me 00:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, its User: He kept vandalising the Infidel article and actually asked to be banned. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 00:23, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
@Editorofthewiki: It's an IP address which has never edited before and is assigned to a school. The person who had that IP address is probably long gone. If they come back, and use the same IP address, then the next block will be longer. --NeilN talk to me 00:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Vandalism is haram :) Hell in a Bucket (talk) 00:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


Hello NeilN and thank you for deleting my user page. I believe we may have come to a misunderstanding; I wanted to delete my user page and create a new one, not protect it. If you could please remove the protection tag on my user page, I'd appreciate it. Sorry if I couldn't explain it properly earlier. Best, Vacationlandman (talk) 04:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Vacationlandman Yes check.svg Done --NeilN talk to me 04:47, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

need for help[edit]

i need help review on Navjit Buttar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Needreview (talkcontribs) — Preceding undated comment added 04:21, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


Unable to understand the full scenario/subject, and contributing unknowingly in not keeping wikipedia neutral, unable to understand bunch of users' biased position and giving in or accepting just because some set of editors are big in number. Providing users like Ricky81682 who blatantly edit the same article to their terms, going on to revert the page more than three times on the same day, please log. Spend time on the article and understand what is going on, do not follow people who feed you information only then would you realise, that the ones who feed you information are doing so wrongly, the ones who are confident that they are right would not reach out to administrators unless like now where the article is locked and biased users are given full power to edit the articles as they wish. I seriously doubt your abilities as an administrator.

Please see the sections

Have you ever thought why the article needs to be locked ??? My opinion: Majority of people do not like what is on the article and know it is false and are constantly editing it. And the minority few who want to control the article need power hence contact admins to lock it down.

Marchoctober (talk) 07:45, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Insulting people and calling them incompentent. There's a term for that. Yep, that's going to get people to see things your way. Or maybe not so much? --Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 12:07, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Replied here. --NeilN talk to me 12:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I have replied here Marchoctober (talk) 17:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I offer a profuse apology for calling NeilN in competent, In this case my actions were incompetent as I did not know the full scenario of his past records and based my comment on just one of his edits. I was very disturbed and got very emotional in the process ended up using strong terms, I think its the need for attention towards injustice happening towards the article which made me take the drastic step to call someone terms like incompetent, I deeply regret my actions and I am shameful of them. Marchoctober (talk) 17:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

i need review tag on navjit buttar by admins[edit]

i need review tag on User:Needreview/Navjit Buttar for geting review by admins

I see that from above. While I've commented, please be more patient. --NeilN talk to me 13:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
thanks for your comment and time i will working on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:46, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Bajrangi Bhaijaan Fake Collections[edit]

Sir, Alot Of Vandalism Happening on Bajrangi Bhaijaan Movie Page.... Alot Of Salman khan fans posting Inauthentic References and changing Box office to 470+..Alot Of Indian news papers making articles based on this Fake Collections which is Question the credibility of Wikipedia.. You have fully protected the article and am glad for that but you haven't changed the collection number and you protected it with the fake number locked in.. This is the Authentic Source which says Bajrangi Bhaijaan movie didn't even cross 400 Crores.. Kindly.. I beg.. Check and change the number and then protect it.. I I beg your pardon.. I love Wikipedia.. i don't want it to lose its credibility cause of few People — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santhoshlee1 (talkcontribs) 16:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Santhoshlee1. You need to use Talk:Bajrangi Bhaijaan to discuss this. Ricky81682 has already opened a discussion there. --NeilN talk to me 16:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

No Gun Ri[edit]


Hope you're doing well. I am currently engaged in a lengthy dispute resolution process over at No Gun Ri Massacre, which has seen a very heated debate between Cjhanley and WeldNeck which has seethed for years.

Part of it revolves around a sourcing dispute, namely, the credibility of the U.S. No Gun Ri Review Report, the initial AP reports (particularly the credibility of certain eyewitnesses), and of historian Robert Bateman. In general, the page has been a battleground, with frequent personal attacks, accusations of POV, bold edits against consensus, and so on, although it has calmed down as of late. It is important to note that Cjhanley is in fact one of the AP reporters who initially broke the No Gun Ri story, and was awarded the Pulitzer Prize; also, WeldNeck has accused him of a conflict of interest. Both editors have compiled extensive lists of their grievances, and have dragged one another to ANI: [14][15][16][17][18] WeldNeck also attacked Cjhanley as a sockpuppeteer: [19]. Neither editor is blameless, to say the least. I filed a DRN quite some time ago.

For some time, I, along with Timothyjosephwood, Wikimedes, and Irondome have attempted to mediate, and we have successfully imposed an unofficial "freeze" on editing the page without prior proposals. The page has been fairly quiet for a while. Unfortunately, there has recently been some adding and reverting of content, as the "freeze" has begun to thaw out:[20][21][22][23] I would appreciate any help an experienced editor such as yourself could offer. If you are interested, I can also provide some sources to provide background, although some can also be found on the page's external links category.

Thanks very much,

GAB (talk) 01:50, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Neil! Guess what! You're not the first one to try! Good luck, pal. This is quite something. Maybe you can begin by banning the two main editors from the article... Drmies (talk) 01:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Because of reasons[edit]

WikiDefender Barnstar Hires.png The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I know you've probably received plenty of these in nine years, but everybody deserves recognition for their work. Your responses have been fair, even handed and always very swift. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:37, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank MezzoMezzo. But really, you should be getting one of these for your vigilance. --NeilN talk to me 04:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Silent Generation[edit]

Come on Neil...why did you wipe-out my hard work to correct the fabulously misinformed error comprising what amount still to only a stub requiring time, effort and expansion?

I see that you have great Wiki experience, dedication and power...but you're are no walking encyclopedia. You're text on the Silent Generation is just plain's narrow and drawn from only one hardly accepted resource.

I had only just begun to repair the page and build a proper body of information. Really, just because you've more power doesn't mean that you've acted either rightly, in the interest of knowledge or for the benefit of readers. The Wiki is build from the contributions of many people, simply protecting your ignorance like a childish wizard on the watch with his magic wand does not pass for decent editorial work.

Now, really, you own me a civil apology, restoration of my words...and, frankly, assistance to me with some Wiki issue I need to learn in order to properly straighten-out this page. (e.g., changing it's title from 'Silent' to 'Great' Generation) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.Woodman.Brown (talkcontribs) 05:19, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Y.Woodman.Brown, please read my talk page post. [24] --NeilN talk to me 05:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


Hi NeilN. User:BickinBackBeinBool resumed vandalism of exact same edit as at The Scent of Green Papaya. I smell a duck. For your immediate actions, please. And a suggestion of pp if it qualifies. Optakeover(Talk) 20:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Optakeover: Thanks. User blocked and I'll watch the article for further disruption. --NeilN talk to me 20:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey NeilN, the vandal strikes back. Requesting pp and range block if warranted as well. I'm not sure if there is any other way to deter SPA vandalism other than that. Optakeover(Talk) 22:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
@Optakeover: Already taken care of. --NeilN talk to me 22:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Got it. Thank you very much. Optakeover(Talk) 22:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Muhammed Chaudhry Removal[edit]

Hi, i recognized the Conflict of Interest and wished to edit it, but Nawlinwiki has deleted it and I cannot edit it. Can you please let me know if there is a way I can get it back so I can rework it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talkcontribs) 20:54, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mohammadsvef: No, we don't host copyright violations or press releases. And what do you mean you "recognized the conflict of interest"? If you have a conflict, you must abide by our terms of use. "Note that Wikipedia's terms of use require disclosure of your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." --NeilN talk to me 21:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Uh Ok where can a disclose that info? Im just a summer intern.

@Mohammadsvef: From our TOU
You must make that disclosure in at least one of the following ways:
  • a statement on your user page,
  • a statement on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or
  • a statement in the edit summary accompanying any paid contributions.
It is highly unlikely you will be able to create an acceptable article by tomorrow. Please read our notability guidelines for biographies. --NeilN talk to me 21:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I will make the statement on my user page. And not be abel to finish it?Why wouldn't I? There isn't a huge wealth of information on him, but I feel like there is enough to constitute a page that is informative for anyone who wished to know more about our organization. I understand that it should be unbiased, and I would remove any statement that expressed personal opinion, just other people's stated opinions such as Obama's quote. What else do you want me to do, make up a negative opinion so I can show two differing perspectives? I was lazy the first time and just copied and pasted everything. I will go through and read the interviews people have taken of him, and use those as sources. Your goal as an administrator for wikipedia is to help spread knowledge, no matter how prominent. Why can't you help me without bringing your criticism into it? Because that seems to be biased, surprising since you dedicate a great portion of your time to this website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talkcontribs) 21:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mohammadsvef: Given that you are being paid to do this, and your first attempt read like a press release, you really should be using the WP:AFC process and creating a draft that will be reviewed by an experienced editor. --NeilN talk to me 21:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you for the link, I will use it. But other than it sounding like a press release, I don't see why you couldn't specifically tell me what you didn't approve of, and not a general rule, like a specific section. Also, can I at least have my sources back? Of course I can't use the administration page as a source again but the other three I think were valid sources, they were news organizations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talkcontribs) 21:34, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mohammadsvef: Your sources [25] [26] [27] [28] --NeilN talk to me 21:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talkcontribs) 21:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Is BoxOfficeIndia a trusted source for wikipedia ?[edit]

I've noticed BoxOfficeIndia is the quoted source for box office collections for a number of hindi movies(including PK). Why are their numbers for Bajrangi Bhaijaan not being considered authentic then ? Is there an exhaustive list of trusted sources for box office collections for Indian movies ? Sbhowmik89 (talk) 06:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Are there any third-party sources commenting on the website? What are their editorial standards? You may want to post your query on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard for more input. Elspamo4 (talk) 06:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm not claiming their authenticity. I know as much about them as you. I'm just wondering why they are considered a source for certain articles and not for others ? Sbhowmik89 (talk) 07:07, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sbhowmik89. Elspamo4 steered you correctly. WP:RSN is where you should ask this. --NeilN talk to me 13:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Sbhowmik89 I would also take anything related to Indian cinema box office totals with a grain of salt. Major corruption. Most of the totals are little more than estimates. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

IP sockpuppet of banned User:Vote (X) for Change returns[edit]

See Special:Contributions/ Thanks, JoeSperrazza (talk) 11:04, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Blocked. --NeilN talk to me 13:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[edit]

Binksternet seems to believe that this IP is the same as the cause of death vandal. What do think about this? Dustin (talk) 16:51, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@Dustin V. S.: Yes, I agree. They're already blocked for a week for edit warring and it's likely they'll just hop to a different IP. --NeilN talk to me 16:56, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

User leaves me an "edit warring" message after nothing of the sort occurred[edit]

I'm not sure if policy means anything can be done about it, but I just wanted to let you know that I've gotten an edit warring message from User:Jytdog only after one friendly good-faith revert. What makes it worse is that he reverted back to an incorrect text, where he could have easily verified that the newer version reflected information in the article Jerry Abramson. I'm not sure what I did to deserve such treatment. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 17:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Follow-up: Jytdog has issued a retraction. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 17:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
@Stevietheman: That's good. I know it's never pleasant getting slapped with a template for edits you believe are good. Often, it's a good idea to engage the other editor, to find out what they're thinking. Sometimes it's a mistake, a misunderstanding or they're just having a bad day. --NeilN talk to me 19:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for blocking User:RichardNorfolk. I hope we are able to expand Yishai Schlissel significantly in the next few days.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship (3nd nomination)[edit]

I'd recommend you speedy close the nomination under WP:SNOW then. - NQ (talk) 02:04, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

NQ, just did. --NeilN talk to me 02:06, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
NQ or anyone else wondering as to the reason: [29]. --NeilN talk to me 02:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
The close was a no brainer. I restored the notice since the discussion was ongoing and wasn't closed yet. - NQ (talk) 02:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)


I respect your decision to close the MFD. I also direct your attention to the our IAR policy:

Wikipedia:Ignore all rules: If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.

All the same, I proved to myself something I needed to prove: no one gives a damn. Having re-learned that lesson, I will fall back into place. Sorry for the inconvenience I caused. I'm not sure why I did this or what I thought I could achieve. Please accept my apology. Sincerely, TomStar81 (Talk) 02:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

TomStar81, have you not looked at the myriad of recent discussions about reforming RFA? --NeilN talk to me 02:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
They talk and talk, and nothing is every accomplished. Ten long years of "blah blah blah" and what have we to show for it at RFA? Nothing. Not one God-bleeping thing. Actions speak louder than words, but by the time the Wikipedia chapter of the League of Nations figures that out it will be far too late to do anything. It always is. If this had worked, if we were to force the shut down of the process then evolution dictates that with the sudden need to evolve we would have a new process in a few months that everyone could have a chance to weigh in on, and more importantly one that would be free of its predecessor, but no one sees the issue from this perspective. I don't know about you, but I would have liked to have looked back on this at New Years time and remembered that thanks to a Bold action we were able to do something, rather than look back in a decade and realizing that nothing has yet been done to fix or reform the process. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
TomStar81, the atmosphere at RFA has improved from what it was a few years ago. If you want "no new admins until RFA is reformed" then you will have to start a RFC. Yes, I know you think of RFCs but people are going to disagree with your proposal. --NeilN talk to me 02:53, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
I would have it no other way :) How terrible the world would be if there was no one with an opposing view point, for in our species we judge what perfection we find by the shades of imperfection we see. I have always admire that in you, that you and I may disagree on these matters, for in our difference of opinions I find some small measure of peace. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:59, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Apparent sockpuppet of a user you blocked earlier[edit]

Hi NeilN. Earlier today, you blocked Allstartrick14, a user who I had reported at WP:AIV for repeatedly adding unsourced info to baseball player articles. It looks like this user has now made a sock account, Allstartrick13, to attempt to evade their block. Just thought I should make you aware of this. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 02:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

A guy saved by Jesus, thanks. Sock blocked indef, master's block extended to one week. --NeilN talk to me 02:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for taking care of it. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 03:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
There is also Allstartrick (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log), created this morning (EDT), before Allstartrick13 was created, but who has not yet edited. May want to keep an eye on them also. General Ization Talk 03:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Stop Deletion[edit]

Hey Dear User Please Stop Speed Deletion Of Our Country Artist Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Dear Techzaada, please stop socking. Another admin will decide if the article will be speedy deleted. If it is not, then it will go to WP:AFD. --NeilN talk to me 05:41, 1 August 2015 (UTC)


Fixed this, it's nothing weird, just fixed, is all. Don't panic, not a sock, etc etc (talk) 06:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. --NeilN talk to me 06:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Gen X[edit]

Please unlock the page. Thanks. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Protection actually expired a couple days ago. The bot didn't remove the icon. --NeilN talk to me 18:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Marathon Course Cutting[edit]

Thanks for your feedback on the matter and I apologize for violating the three-revert rule. I'm still learning the ins and outs of Wipikedia Etiquette and I'm tyong to be a good citizen. I did notice the rule but it was already after the fact so a bit to late. It is hard to be ina dispute with an anonymous editor who has no evidence to their claim but I guess we'll see how it goes. GregTakacs (talk) 21:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)