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NPP Awards for 2023

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The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

For over 100 article reviews during 2023. Well done! Keep up the good work and thank you! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to Netherzone for collecting at least 25 points during the January 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 16,070 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


"Geothermal resources" maps

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Geothermal Energy in the Western United States (1978) from USGS doi:10.3133/cir790

Just FYI I found that the NOAA produced maps of "geothermal resources" to go with that 1980 report we use a lot. The good people of University of Nevada Reno scanned them and I grabbed them all and put them here:

Commons:Category:Maps of geothermal resources of the United States

I think it includes all the states in the continental U.S. north and west of Texas, except possibly South Dakota (which may well be out there somewhere). Most are in PDF format but I think can convert to jpg and/or png if need be, just let me know which ones.

I think/hope they should be citable sources if they have any info that isn't already in the report; I cited the California one in one place already as <ref name="CAgeothermmap-1980">{{Cite map |last1=Higgins |first1=Chris T. |last2=Therberge |last3=Ikelman |first2=Albert E. Jr. |first3=Joy A. |title=Geothermal Resources of California |url=https://data.nbmg.unr.edu/public/Geothermal/GreyLiterature/GeothermalResources_California_1980_R.pdf |date=1980 |publisher=California Department of Mines and Geology |publication-place=Sacramento |others=NOAA National Geophysical Center}}</ref>

I can't really figure out the name of the original report or repository these came from so just leaning on the unr.edu for now. Cheers, jengod (talk) 04:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jengod, thanks for your note. How wonderful that you uploaded scans of the maps! I've got a copy of the paper maps from along with the 1980 hardcopy of the report Thermal springs list for the United States (1980) By Berry, George W. ; Grim, P. J. (Paul J.) ; Ikelman, Joy A.
Because I travel alot and live between two states in two different regions of the country, I seldom travel with the paper copies, instead I use a pdf. You can download the entire .pdf of the book here: [1] but it doesn't include the maps. Thanks again for uploading this excellent resource for hot springs! Netherzone (talk) 16:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just took a moment to look on Commons, and those are different than the maps than the ones I have. This is a superb new resource, Jen. Thanks again. Netherzone (talk) 16:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Pueblo pottery

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You mentioned that Pueblo pottery has been considered as a potential GA candidate in the past. I have a decent amount of GA experience from both sides of the table and have appreciated my interactions with you recently, so I'd be happy to walk you through a review on such a solid article. There's been something of a renaissance regarding Indigenous American culture on Wikipedia over the last couple years, meaning I'm fairly confident that any gaps/concerns that arise would draw support from the handful of other editors in that subject area. If you wind up nominating Pueblo pottery now or later, please ping me and I'll pick up the review. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for this, it really made my day! I do think it is the best work I've done for WP, and spent a lot of time researching the subject. It was my "pandemic project"; I ordered a bunch of books and hunkered down in the house to work on it. In the next day or two I will read up on GA's and what the expectations and process involves. If I decide to nominate it, I will definitely ping you. Thanks again. Netherzone (talk) 15:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course! My pandemic projects were a handful of CO ghost towns and the various Book of Common Prayer articles (I've almost wrapped those up!). I happen to presently live in Arlington, Virginia. If additional images or sources are required, they have a lot of material available at the NMAI in DC. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October music

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story · music · places

You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

today Rohan de Saram - unbelievable story --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! A life well lived! Netherzone (talk) 23:37, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the birthday of Tabea Zimmermann, and you can listen to the exact concert I mentioned last year ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A page protecting fox for you too!

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Page protecting fox
This fox protects pages! 😊

Thanks for letting me know what Inari Ōkami is! Now I've learned something from Wikipedia again.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

YAYYYY! Thank you for the page protecting fox, what a beautiful entity! I shall treasure this. Netherzone (talk) 01:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
😄💚 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:57, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arminio puffery?

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Hello, may I ask why you deleted this information? It wasn't part of the Lerro spam, but I added it when I rewrote the page. That article is written by Roberto Saviano for a reputable newspaper like La Repubblica and has nothing to do with Arminio's agency. I will proceed to restore it because it is a critical consideration from a notable author and not "puffery", as there is no connection between Arminio and Saviano's agency.--Alienautic (talk) 13:11, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Alienautic, and thanks for reaching out. There are several reasons why I removed it, however I won't object if you add it back, but I really do think it needs clarification. The rationale for removal was 1) at the bottom of the article it states: © 2009 by Roberto Saviano Published by arrangement with Roberto Santachiara Literary Agency; 2) The quote was added without there being any context for it, raising questions about whether it is WP:UNDUE. Most readers won't know why that particular earthquake was important and what "it generated" (whatever that means). 3) There does not seem to be balance in the use of the quote; usually when that level of critical praise is included, it is balanced with things another critic has written, see WP:BALANCE and WP:PROPORTION. 4) I have no issue whatsoever with La Repubblica, however extraordinary claims require extraordinary sourcing, there should be multiple mainstream sources. How about further improving it so the statement reads more neutrally and to assign due weight regarding critical feedback of his work in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources. 5) The edit did not explain why the COI tag was removed when it was added (the edit summary just mentioned the notability tag, and did not address the COI). Hope that helps to explain. Best regards, Netherzone (talk) 14:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. 1) The Santachiara Agency was Saviano's agency, not Arminio's, so I don't see it as puffery; I mean, the agency arranged the publication of the article, as any agency normally does, but that does not involve the article's content, since it is written and signed by Saviano; 2) Since the entry is a stub, I thought the context contained was necessary. The quote can be connected to the previous statement regarding Arminio's social poetry about the issues of Southern Italy. The earthquake has its own article, which in the "Rebuilding" paragraph explains the social implications involving the Camorra. We could link directly to that paragraph. 3)-4) You are right that other perspectives would be necessary to balance this. I will try to look for more in the available sources. However, I did not write "Arminio is considered one of the most important poets," but "In 2009, Saviano defined him one of the most important poets," which is a fact. Saviano is a major voice in the Italian cultural scene and did not write this in a blog or on social media, but in one of the main Italian national newspapers. So, I think his opinion is notable enough to be included. 5) I should have been more precise in the edit summary. If you don't mind, I would like to restore it and then try to find some other sources for additional opinions.--Alienautic (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Alienautic, I don't mind at all if you improve the article. Netherzone (talk) 18:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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The Invisible Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to Netherzone for accumulating at least 5 points during the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what the points mean, but thank you, Josh!

Hi! Could you have a look at this and see what you think?

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Hi Netherzone. The article on Joseph Raffael came to my attention because it got linked to Don Nice, an article I created in 2023. Reading through the Raffael article I saw some rather big claims, including a very long list of "Collections". As I started fact checking it looks like most of the biographical claims are from someone with COI. I can't even find a obituary for this artist. I see he is in SAAM's collection https://americanart.si.edu/artist/joseph-raffael-3921 which would make him notable. Before I take a scalpel I was hoping you'd take a look and let me know wht I am missing. Thanks. No rush. I think some of the wikidata is gleaned from the MoMA site, which posts the Wikipedia article. I am confused. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:40, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WomenArtistUpdates, I will have a look at it tomorrow or Wednesday. Am happy to help out. If he is the same Joseph Raffael as the one who is/was Bay Area based, I remember his work very well from decades ago. If it is the same person I'm pretty sure sources can be found on either Newspapers.com or Newspaper Archive or the Internet Archive. If there is COI editing going on, that can be cleaned up. Will let you know what I think after I read the article and look into sources. Have a good evening! Netherzone (talk) 01:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi WAU, I trimmed the fluff, original research, copyvios and unsourced content, and added several citations. It's now a concise encyclopedia entry. Let me know if you think it looks ok. Netherzone (talk) 21:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Netherzone. Wow! nice improvement. I thank you for taking the time to clean up the article. I am still not finding good sourcing for the artist's death. https://research.rkd.nl/en/detail/https%3A%2f%2fdata.rkd.nl%2fartists%2f65428 just lists birth and https://deces.matchid.io/id/yYD09oFHWCk0 match ID gets a death date from Wikipedia. The Nancy Hoffman site doesn't state that he died https://www.nancyhoffmangallery.com/artist-joseph-raffael-1, his website seems to be a dead link. I am going to use https://moaonline.org/in-memory-of-joseph-raffael/ . Nice stuff. Is he the artist you had in mind? --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He is the same artist that I remember from the Bay Area, haven't thought about it for many years. Those huge watercolors are pretty amazing. I'll keep my eye out for another ref for the date of death. I think (?) there may (?) be two artists named Joseph Raffael - this one (painter/printmaker), and another who was primarily known as an illustrator, both born in 1933. Either way, the moanline.org ref verifies this Joseph's dates. Do you know where his archives are held? Netherzone (talk) 01:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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