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For all your work on the Australian aviation articles. Canglesea (talk) 15:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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For his esteemed dedication, devotion and initive in venturing out in order to capture File:Charles Crombie War Grave .jpg with a Kodak EasyShare C433 Zoom Digital Camera, I am please to bestow the Photographer's Barnstar upon Newm30 as a token of my appreciation. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 06:08, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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For removing lots of redlinks in Military History articles, I hereby award Newm30 the Red Link Removal Barnstar. AustralianRupert (talk) 13:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your good work helping with the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews for the period Jan-Jun 2010, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. Ian Rose (talk) 02:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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For creating many location and biographical articles, and thereby removing a number of redlinks from the Battle of Sattelberg article, I hereby award you a Bar to your Red Link Removal Barnstar. Keep up the good work in 2011! AustralianRupert (talk) 02:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
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By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your good work helping with the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured Article reviews for the period January–March 2011, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. AustralianRupert (talk) 08:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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For your prolific creation of articles. Keep it up :) -- saberwyn 02:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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For having contributed a thousand new articles to Wikipedia. Properly sourced, too - at least those I looked at. Keep it up; I'm sure you have hundreds more in you! ;) Aridd (talk) 18:45, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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A barnstar for creating the new article SS Arkaba (1924). Your work to help improve Wikipedia is appreciated! Northamerica1000(talk) 08:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Sandwich[edit]

Thanks. I hate, for no good reason, dotting that final t and crossing that final i. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 11:47, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

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Please don't change your talk page comments after someone else has replied to them. See WP:REDACT. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:27, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Ok no problems. Too many policies to understand all. Newm30 (talk) 01:46, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

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Atlas (June 1801)[edit]

Hi Newm30. User:Prisencolin appears to be adding non-notability deletion notices to a variety of articles that don't interest him. As an inclusionist, that really annoys me. I view it as a form of drive-by vandalism. And as a former Aussie, it really annoys me when he decides what bits of Australian or nautical history are notable. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 12:32, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

It would appear to be a strange nomination for deletion, as the ship is greater than 300-tons and also shipwrecked which gets the article notability automatically. Will keep an eye out for any further nominations and will take it up the line. From a fellow Aussie. Regards, Newm30 (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Thnaks. Prisencolin seems to have stopped, at least the last time I checked. I left him a message re "All ships are notable". Acad Ronin (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Salamander[edit]

Am continuing to work on this. Turns out she is the former HMS Shark renamed to HMS Salamander in 1778, before being sold in 1783. Good stuff. Acad Ronin (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin: that is a great find. A beer for you mate. If she is more notable as a HM ship please move to appropriate page name. Newm30 (talk) 03:23, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Tough call re move. She was not particularly notable as HMS, but there is no clear date for her becoming the mercantile Salamander. In 1776 she was HMS Shark. She didn't become HMS Salamander until 1778, and Salamander somewhere between 1783 and 1786. The only thing about Salamander's start date that is sure is that in 1776 she wasn't Salamander, so the current article title is WRONG. I think I will move her to HMS Shark and trust to the redirects to make it easy for Aussies following Bateson to find her. Acad Ronin (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Done. I love it when Wikipedia is more complete and more accurate than its individual sources. Cheers. Acad Ronin (talk)

Proposed deletion of Bradie Smith[edit]

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Thanks@Diannaa: for the notice. I will be copyediting tonight and rewriting that particular part. I had problems with my tablet last night and I will use my laptop. Regards Newm30 (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Almorah[edit]

Hi Newm30, turns out that the "Almorah affair'" was tangled and will require a bit of research. Problem is, a lot has been written about it so shrinking the story will take time. I recommend that you look it up just for fun. Australian politics, greedy naval officers and merchants, and confusion. Cheers Acad Ronin (talk) 03:07, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

  • @Acad Ronin: All in a good day 's work at that time. My ancestor was a constabulary on the Hawkesbury River, checking for illegal liquor runner boats. Matthew James Everingham unfortunately drowned during a boat boarding. There is some conjecture as to why the coroner ruled drunk on duty and whether foul play was involved. Newm30 (talk) 03:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Fyi[edit]

Mostly unsourced? Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 13:51, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Burke, John. "A general and heraldic dictionary of the peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland, extinct, dormant, and in abeyance. England. Colburn & R. Bentley, 1831. p.195. - Reference for William, Phillipa and Elizabeth.
Richarson, Douglas. "Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families", 2nd Edition, 2011. p.528. - Reference for illegitimate child Henry.
Burke, John. "A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire". Harrison, 1866. p.198. - Reference for Ralph.

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Convict ships to Norfolk Island[edit]

Hi Newm30, I have just posted the article Convict ships to Norfolk Island. Could you look at it when you have a moment. It's always good to have another pair of eyes look at a new article; I produce typos with abandon. Thanks and cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 01:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin: - I have cast my eyes over the article and notice a discrepancy between some numbers of convicts from this source. I also note that an Eliza apparently offloaded some convicts in 1850? Could the article's scope be expanded to include all vessels instead of just timeline between 1840 until 1847? NSW Records has data from 1828. Regards Newm30 (talk) 02:54, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Good info. I have only the 1959 Bateson and clearly he fixed/added to it in the 1974 edition. I will incorporate the new info and think about tackling extending the coverage back. Apparently some convicts arrived even before 1828; apparently the colony was established and abandoned at various times before 1828, though there doesn't seem to be any comprehensive source for that period. Longer-run, we should also have similar articles for Victoria and VDL/Tasmania. Baby steps. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
@Acad Ronin: - I think if the article is split into sub sections on periods along that as shown NSW Records data, with a small paragraph, then the reader would have an understanding of periods of no voyages, etc. Happy to help out. Regards Newm30 (talk) 04:06, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
It appears a little trickier than that. The vessels that are on the page now are those that brought convicts from the British Isles, more or less directly. The vessels in the NSW records for which you gave me the link appear to have shuttled convicts already in Australia to Norfolk Island, or back from it. Also, I have no idea which vessels these were. I am pretty sure that they were all local brigs and sloops owned or under contract to the NSW government, but not only were they local, they were probably small, and I am not sure where we can find any info about them other than their names. As for the time periods, I took the one I used from the WP article on the Island, only to discover that it is in error. If Tory arrived in 1846 and Eliza in 1850, clearly the colony wasn't really being wound down in 1846. I think the opening para is going to have to be longer. It will have to lay out the periods, and then lay out the differences between direct delivery from Great Britain versus shuttling. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 13:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Nice work re 1788 to 1814 period. I've tarted up the second Supply.Acad Ronin (talk) 21:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
It's amazing how a little work on WP can get out of hand. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 22:47, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
@Acad Ronin: - Thanks for work on Supply, this is a vessel I was not even aware of until this morning. Sorry for any edit conflicts I created. Newm30 (talk) 22:55, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Nor was I. Anyway, no edit conflicts. I suspect we both work on a "See the problem fix the problem" policy. I love how we have been able to stitch together various existing articles with the new ones we have created. Acad Ronin (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018[edit]

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Caledonia (1829)[edit]

Hi Newm30, I have just been tweaking Caledonia. Unfortunately, although there is more one could say about this vessel (and she appears notable for the early history of Australia's trade with China), the two key books I have located on Google books are only available in Australian libraries, and I live many miles from Australia. I don't know if followup would interest you, or if you know any Aussie whom it would interest, but I think the project would be worth a little work. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 03:04, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

  • @Acad Ronin: - Let me know which books you are referring to and I will see what I can do? Regards Newm30 (talk) 06:26, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi Newm30. Thanks. I was able to find online the relevant parts of:
  • Marshall, Gordon de L., and Les Douglas (2001) Maritime Albany remembered: Les Douglas et al. (Kalamunda, W.A.: Tangee). However it is badly written. The chronology is unclear and some of the pronouns are ambiguous. The following book is newer and may cover some of the same ground concerning Caledonia's early years, but I can't see the pages I need.
  • Henderson, Graeme (2007) Unfinished Voyages: Western Australian Shipwrecks, 1622-1850, Vol. 1. (UWA Publishing).
Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 20:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018[edit]

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Need your help urgently...[edit]

@Newm30: if you are so inclined. A small ship article I wrote has been nominated for deletion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irlam (1813 ship) by someone who at least once in the past has done the same thing, but gave up. If you agree that even minor, but well-documented ship articles have value you will comment to that effect on the page. Think of all the articles on Australian shipwrecks where all we know is the fact of the wreck. Thanks, Acad Ronin (talk) 15:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

  • @Acad Ronin: - Deletion nomination withdrawn prior to my intervention. Sometimes I think some editors/admin go out of there way to add a layer of red tape that is not warranted. Wikipedia has had problems recruiting editors long term and this is a small reason why those get disheartened. Regards Newm30 (talk) 11:33, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
    • @Newm30: Couldn't agree more and thanks for checking. Turns out canvassing for support is a no-no for which I have apologised to all and sundry, and now to you too. Still, I am hopping that the kickback on this article will have given second thoughts to one particular editor before again attacking a ship article. As one editor with whom I have worked said to me, "It's all a matter of balance and spirit of the rules, and I really think that Wikipedia suffers more from the misconception of what "notability" entails..." Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 12:39, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
      • @Acad Ronin: - When the "notability" is based on ones opinion, even though the guidelines attempt to define "notability" it is not totally definitive and is subject to personal opinion and subjectivity. No need for an apology. Canvassing is subjective and how else is one to attempt to get independent views on matters? I suppose listing it on the Project talk page of WP:SHIPS could be construed in the nth degree as canvassing too. Sounds like Wikipedia is getting too interpretative legally on words and definitions. This is endemic of the world we live in now. Being Politically Correct has taken over the world! Newm30 (talk) 22:38, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018[edit]

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Convict ships to Tasmania[edit]

Hi Newm30, I have just created Convict ships to Tasmania. If you could have a look at it maybe you can think of ways to tart it up a little, add links to it, and the like. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 20:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Alexander Seton (d. 1332)[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018[edit]

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018[edit]

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October 2018[edit]

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