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I find it interesting, how many editor's including admins have double standards on WP. Double standards is what is going to bring WP down eventually, which is really rather sad.

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September 2014[edit]

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Yes it is, thankyou. Though I actually blanked that page and redirected it to Crown Honours to clean up the large amount of unnecessary pages. Someone else has reverted my clean-up. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 02:16, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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You may be interested...[edit]

I've created a page for Operation Okra. Feel free to contribute. -Keepdry (talk) 08:32, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI (Re: Bars to CSC & DSC)[edit]

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Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Query[edit]

Love your post-nom template! How can we remove the underscores though? I remain as ever, yours, etc. (Mr) Gareth E Kegg (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2014 (UTC) Esq.

Hey. thanks. Do you mean the comma's? It's probably better having them bu tif you wish to remove them, then just take out the 'sep=,' from the template. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 19:40, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
I never really know Wiki technical language, but as you hover over the post noms you can see the page title with_under_scores_like_this. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
O, I cannot see that coming up on my computer sorry. I'm not too sure how to fix that. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 00:13, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Template:Post-nominals/CAN[edit]

Why does a direct link to Order of Merit violate . If there were different classes and each had a section in the target then I could see linking to that but in this case there isn't. Cheers. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 07:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

WP:POSTNOM wants the full honour to be present when you mouse over the link. Having 'OBE' for example as a post-nom, when you mouse over it, it should read 'Officer of the Order of the British Empire' and not just 'Order of the British Empire'. Though it maybe a template, it still comes under the same user guidelines of just spelling it out i.e. OBE . Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 11:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
However, postnom does not state that. It may well be that is the intention but without it specifically stating that there is no way that an editor is going to figure it out. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 12:12, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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November 2014[edit]

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You seem to be deeply involved in a revert war regarding MOS/flags on a number of articles. Please find somewhere to discuss these issues, rather than continuing to revert. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I find stage that I am the only one to receive this notice A fluffernutter is a sandwich!. I therefore consider it a rude slap in the face. The other editors involved have reverted my edits repeatedly for breaching various 'rules', though I have accommodated each 'rule' accordingly and as my last edits stands does not cause any 'rule' breaches. I honestly believe there is quite a bit of WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 06:00, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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Deadlink[edit]

http://www.cadetnet.gov.au/aac/unitsites/70acu/Resourcearea/Documents/Cadet%20Instructor's%20Handbook%20-%20Customs%20and%20Traditions,%202006.pdf no longer provides access to the Handbook. Do you have / can you find a URL that does? (I haven't been able to - yet.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

P.S. It's referenced on List of Australian Army brigadiers and List of Australian Army generals (and possibly other places, too.) Pdfpdf (talk) 10:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Yeah the website was updated again. What specifically did it reference? Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 21:29, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Cadet Instructor's Handbook - Customs and Traditions, 2006.pdf Pdfpdf (talk) 13:12, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

No joy? Pdfpdf (talk) 04:12, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Afraid not. It does not appear to exist any longer, it may have been retitled or merged with another ABR. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 06:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh well. I'm fairly confident that it won't be the cause of the end of like as we know it on Planet Earth. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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but he is wrong[edit]

(Context: revert last two edits, Both AK & AC post-nominals are not used, I know it was in the PM's list but he is wrong.)
Oh yes - there are MANY who would agree with you that the mad monk is "wrong", (and not all of them are members of the Labor party ... ).
But getting back on topic, Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

His list (showing the dual post-nominal's) is certainly wrong, but in a recent act of his, he did the right thing, though the Queen's Birthday List would have gone down a little better with the bogans. ;) Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 21:27, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Ummm. Maybe.
It's probably best to keep my mouth closed - that way I can't put my foot in it. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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Edit warring[edit]

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Though I do agree with your decision and I wont be appealing it, I think you'll find the other editor has pretty much ignored it JamesBWatson - See 109.246.133.107. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 15:29, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
You are perfectly right. I have reset the block to its original length, blocked the new IP address, reverted all the block-evading edits that had not already been suprceded by other editors, and warned the editor that further block-evasion may lead to a much longer block. Please feel welcome to let me know if you see any more trouble from the same editor. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:16, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Honours[edit]

Hi Nford24 - I see above mention that AK & AC post-nominals are not used, I know it was in the PM's list but he is wrong - problem is that they can be used not that aren't used. Strict difference - likewise with Dr Conn's decorations they are to be worn in precedence of date of award. Please advise - many thanks M Mabelina (talk) 06:55, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

That is a different matter, that was resolved by a group of top editors. In Australia there is an order of wear issued by the Governor-General (http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/honours/awards/docs/order_of_wearing.pdf). Honours are not worn in order of the date of award at all. Please provide a ref to prove otherwise. Mabelina If I have need it to be revert again, I'll report it to ANI. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 07:02, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
My point is that it is English Wikipedia (or at least that is what is says on the tin) - so now you are saying that it is Aussie English Wiki - in the UK what I said above is correct - please report it - there seems to be a massive divergence of views here M Mabelina (talk) 07:05, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
English, refers to the language. While Conn is an Australian citizen, his honours will officialy reflect the Australian order of wear. Should he ever decide to change his rack around, that's great for him, but the official order of wear will always be there. WP is about the facts, I have seen your having problems with other editors, about factual information on WP, why don't you realise that this is factual? Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 07:10, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes I am having huge problems with other editors which is much to my regret (I almost wish I never got involved) - but having discussed it with an Admin in UK there does seem to be a lot of wrangling inter-Wiki about language & who takes precedence. My sole endeavours have been to introduce facts & now (without asking for it) I have become embroiled in MOS or whatever you call it. M Mabelina (talk) 07:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC) PS. I just want to stick to the facts - since you are an Aussie please provide links to the dates of Dr Conn's awards of the two tenuous decorations.... (Even calling him Dr Conn seems to be out of order in Wiki world)... Await yours M Mabelina (talk) 07:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
& just a quick nod to the great Richie (to lighten the tone): "McGrath is out for two, just 98 short of his century!"
btw who are these "top editors" - please advise - many thanks. M Mabelina (talk) 07:24, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
If you have a look through the history of his awards, you'll find I never added those dates, I left them out. I will only add dates, if I can find a reliable reference for the dates of awards, you'll also see that last time I revert your edit, I removed the dates as well. The Australian Defence Medal & Anniversary of National Service 1951–1972 Medal are simple service medals issued by the Department of Defence, because they are not decorations, their award dates are never made public. These medals are awarded through the post. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 07:32, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
AusTerrapin, Pdfpdf & myself (Though I don't regard myself as a top editor). Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 07:32, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Blimey - "through the post" - doesn't sound very elevated at all (& perhaps worthy of review by AUS Govt). Anyway, Dr Conn received upon institution these medals so the dates are crystal clear (ie 2001 & 2006).. This MOS is clearly not going to go away (& I don't mean by my interventions - just from what I glean from UK sources) - language phraseology is becoming ever less universal & whilst I love the way Wiki puts most things certain formal and/or historical matters are difficult to translate even from English, well ... to English! M Mabelina (talk) 07:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Conn was eligible for the awards upon their creation, but can you provide a ref that he was awarded them in those years?
No unfort I can't all I have seen is him wearing them - I was hoping you could do the tech stuff... M Mabelina (talk) 08:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
This is one of the latest pictures of him from November last year (http://www.kiamaindependent.com.au/story/2676162/jamberoos-emma-blunden-picks-up-st-john-ambulance-gong/). His St John service medal is in the pre-1992 order of wear. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:35, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Good info Nford24 - thanks. So, looks like Dr Conn didn't receive his Anniversary of National Service Medal till after 2009? M Mabelina (talk) 08:50, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

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May 2015[edit]

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There was a reason given, It's the second times I've removed that false and misleading content from that page. The "post-nominal" used in the article is made-up and therefore unrecognised in Australia. See Australian Honours System for further information. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 15:55, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Nford24, "false and misleading content" - I suggest you read the lead of the article and/or the Awards and achievements section. Post-nominal or honorary titles do not need to be from the country the subject was born in. See Template:Infobox person, Title of honor, Post-nominal letters. Unless you want to be blocked for edit warring (or disruptive editing) again, I suggest you stop doing it. Lapadite (talk) 21:06, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I suggest you take a look at WP:POSTNOM before reverting it again.Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 01:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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Honours & postnoms[edit]

Hi Nford24 - firstly let me wish you a very Happy New Year. I listed Sir James Dyson's postnoms for a very specific reason. I am also pleased that you show interest in this matter & hope we can reach accord for Wiki's sake. It is customary but not obligatory for honourees to list a couple of their most prestigious awards, otherwise their names would become unwieldy to say the least! Obviously there is no precedent for Dyson's use accordingly because his OM was only announced in the New Years Honours. I think it is better for Wiki to desist from reinventing language style to fit its self-devised parameters but if you have other thoughts please let me know. Many thanks. Best M Mabelina (talk) 04:35, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Years to you too. I understand this, I was a witness to the decision to omit the postnominals of the Duke of Edinburgh & Prince of Wales. Dyson only has four postnominals, which is below average for people with Wikipedia pages. Taking that into consideration, he has the postnomianls 'FRS FREng', I don't see why the 'CBE' (being a higher postnominal) should be excluded for the 'FRS'. If any postnomianls should be excluded (and I don't agree with any being excluded) the FRS should be omited for the CBE. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 11:59, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
@Nford24: well it is a moot point & a matter of personal preference, but since rarely does anyone wish to be known by umpteen letters after their name it is a matter of discretion as how to apply protocol in this regard - I could perhaps create a page or add to one (if such a relevant article already exists)? insofar as I know this matter can cause confusion, and resultant issues, for Wikipedians and it would be good to get it sorted out. Of course, another issue is that protocol differs from country to country, and whilst I can speak with absolute certainty about customary practice in the UK (always deferring to the holder's personal preference of course, so long as not contravening established formal guidelines) I shouldn't wish to venture to set down guidelines for other countries, although I do have some working knowledge about this.
I understand that you are also conversant with such matters so the question is how to marry Wiki infoboxes & other like formulaic templates with normal protocol so as to avoid providing opportunities for lazy journalists (or others - but I trust you know what I mean?) to put in print an inadvertently Wiki-created linguistic style, which can then get cited back as "evidence" by future Wiki editors! - in other words thus creating an ever increasing downwards spiral, ie. a departure from what is correct form!!). Times and social customs change of course, but this is why Wiki is far better placed than most to keep up-to-date on such matters - as long as it sets off on the right footing!
Now with regard to the moot point of FRS over CBE, you absolutely correct to say that CBE is "higher" than FRS, but then OM accords no precedence either. Generally accepted custom, especially in the case of FRS (& FBA, FRSL, eg.) is to use the "highest" national honour in conjunction with FRS. So put simply, the best national honour with the best Fellowship. I can continue on this further as need be but perhaps you could let me know your further thoughts so far? Much appreciated - best M Mabelina (talk) 12:58, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
PS. what is the relevance of PE 121 Personnel Request Form may I ask?
Based on that, I'd say you're looking at trying to make a new consensus for change on current Wiki policies? I personally tend to agree with actual fact over convenient fact, so I would be in favour of including all of his postnominals, as opposed to the highest ones (honour & fellowship). The PE121 form is used alot in my line of work, it's used by the Department of Defence in Australia as a personnel request form (for promotions, meeting appointments, qualification's, awards, Leave etc.). The form is printed on green paper & is referred too as a "Green Grenade", I have quite a few cross my desk on a weekly basis.
I may not be on Wiki much for the next few days, due to work, so I might not reply for a while on occasion. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 18:45, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Good to hear back from you Nford24 & all that me and others are requesting from Wiki is clarity of current policy..
Should this not be possible, please devise soonest so as to remedy - many thanks. M Mabelina (talk) 05:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
PS. are you sending a PE121 Form, or was that a side issue?
No, They cross my desk as a head of department. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 07:06, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
@Nford24: good - one less complication then! I'm still mightily confused about what Wiki is trying to achieve ref. titles, styles & postnoms. Nobody seems to be prepared to stand up & be counted. Let's put it very simply: if Wiki is intent on not including honorific prefixes as is its wont, then let's rationalise peers accordingly - does this make sense? RSVP. M Mabelina (talk) 07:12, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXIX, February 2016[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXX, March 2016[edit]

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Nford24[edit]

The list is in absolutely no way correct in 2016 and the assertion that it should reflect their term in office is random and unjustified (globally accepted? where?). Calling him "Sir Terry Lewis" merely serves to make Wikipedia look like we're both using sources from when I was in pre-school and on top of that are pretty incompetent at basic research. The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:51, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

As I said, have a look at Chief of the Defence Force (Australia) list, and then get consensus to change everything. What your trying to suggest, is equivalent to arguing that Prince William was Duke of Cambridge from birth or that Sir David Attenborough was a knight from birth. The lists reflect the titles held at the end of their tenur, not those from after or before. Terry Lewis was a Knight Bachelor during his tenure, and he was refered to as 'Sir Terry Lewis'. Your essentially trying to rewrite history by your statement The Drover's Wife. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 04:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm not trying to rewrite history, I'm trying to state definitive fact. Terry Lewis is not correctly addressed as "Sir Terry Lewis", and hasn't been since I was very small. Therefore, in what is just a list of people to have held a role, he should not be addressed as something that it is not currently correct to address him is. The David Attenborough or Prince William arguments don't make sense because they are those things now, and it is correct to refer to them as those things now, whereas it is manifestly not here.
You didn't have a consensus to define the list in that way to begin with. You're welcome to get one, but in the meantime Wikipedia needs to stick with what is verifiable fact. The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

You keep referring me to Chief of the Defence Force, when this is irrelevant because no Chief of the Defence force has been stripped of their honours, and so no longer possesses the titles Wikipedia claims they have. Each of the listings that page is completely and verifiably true. You want to add something that is completely and verifiably false. That is not an argument in your favour. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Did you really think you were going to get away with adding hoax info to articles if you just waited two weeks before revert-warring again? Nice try. The Drover's Wife (talk) 05:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
As another editor has already pointed out, the onus is on YOU to get consensus. Find another editor to agree with you, and keep the conversation on the QPS talk page. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 07:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXI, April 2016[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXII, May–June 2016[edit]

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