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[edit]Hi NKohli_(WMF). @NKohli (WMF):
Thank you for taking part in the Community Health learning campaign!
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Hi NiharikaKohli,
I wanted to thank you for contributing a drawing to the collaborative mural at Wikimania 2015. In case you haven't seen it yet, we have posted a few [[questions on what makes a healthy community online. A lot of people have contributed their views there... feel free to share yours as well!
Happy editing, María (WMF) (talk) 21:23, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Community Tech bot
[edit]Please put the bot's data dumps into Wikipedia space instead of article space. I've deleted the last two runs, please let me know where you'd like them restored if you don't have the permissions. Acroterion (talk) 15:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Extremely sorry for that. I'll fix that. NiharikaKohli (talk) 15:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, it happens more often than you'd think. Acroterion (talk) 15:48, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Dear Niharika,
I would like to run the forgotten articles query in the German Wikipedia, too. Could you do this?
Cheers, kopiersperre — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kopiersperre (talk • contribs) 06:38, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, Yes, I can do this. Where would you like me to dump the results? And would you want me to run it periodically via the bot? We don't have a bot flag on dewiki yet, so that might take some time. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 09:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, you could dump it here. Having a periodic bot run would be nice, but it's not necessary. Is it also possible to get a list of the smallest articles (in kb)?--Kopiersperre (talk) 08:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, now that we have an approval for running the bot on dewiki, can you tell me the dewiki URL corresponding to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Forgotten_articles on enwiki, so I can publish the report results there? Also, it'd be great if you could translate the report intro text and table headers for me. Just dump them here. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 17:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, German Wikipedia does not have regular database reports. So you can place it where you want, e.g. here. I will inform the people about this new report.--Kopiersperre (talk) 12:06, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, now that we have an approval for running the bot on dewiki, can you tell me the dewiki URL corresponding to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Forgotten_articles on enwiki, so I can publish the report results there? Also, it'd be great if you could translate the report intro text and table headers for me. Just dump them here. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 17:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, you could dump it here. Having a periodic bot run would be nice, but it's not necessary. Is it also possible to get a list of the smallest articles (in kb)?--Kopiersperre (talk) 08:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Translations:
Diese Liste enthält die 1000 Artikel, die am längsten nicht mehr bearbeitet wurde. Als Bearbeitung zählt hierbei jede Aktion, die zu einer Aktualisierung des Seitencache führt, also neben Textbearbeitungen auch Seitensperrungen oder Änderungen an eingebundenen Vorlage.
Artikel – Letzte Bearbeitung – Bearbeitungen insgesamt
Thanks! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
This has now finished running. Give it a look and tell me if it looks okay. There might be some bugs. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the bot run, it has got some resonance. One person has argued, that the bot is missing articles, e.g. Eudos was edited last on 29 August 2013 and it's not on the list, which is going to 30 September 2013.--Kopiersperre (talk) 10:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
- May you please tell me, how the bot works? Does it look for the page_touched field?--Kopiersperre (talk) 11:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi! Sorry for the delayed response, I was traveling for a couple of weeks. Yes, it looks for the page_touched field, which can produce some errors because the page_touched value can be changed by a lot of other factors than actual page editing, such as editing of an embedded template etc. However, in testing I found the percentage of such errors to be quite small, though admittedly I didn't test it exhaustively. The problem with using the exact last edit timestamp was that it increased the query time massively. Very large queries are, as of now, not supported on the labs infrastructure. Due to this reason, a number of reports on the english wikipedia have stopped working, or are intermittently working. Hence, reducing query processing time was one of our main concerns when writing the bot. Feel free to reach out if you have more concerns or have requests for making other reports available on dewiki. Thank you! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 05:13, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- And, wow! It certainly got a a lot of resonance. Can you tell me if the general sentiment is positive or negative? :) I'm not familiar with german, but it'd be nice to know what people think of this report and if there's interest in getting other similar reports. Thank you so much. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 05:23, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- May you please tell me, how the bot works? Does it look for the page_touched field?--Kopiersperre (talk) 11:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- German Wikipedia is quite a shark pool. Some people have liked it, some argued, that time to last edit has nothing to do with quality and some argued, that the query is flawed. Merlissimo has made another database report as a consequence.
- May you update the text to my changes?--Kopiersperre (talk) 09:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the updated text. I'll include it for the next bot run. Can you tell me how the new database report (created by Merlissimo) is correct? For the few pages I opened, the date in the report does not match the last edited timestamp of the page. Am I missing something here? -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 13:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- The query from Merlissimo excludes Bot edits (source code is inside the <!-- --> block).--Kopiersperre (talk) 15:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I see. That's a good idea. :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 05:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the updated text. I'll include it for the next bot run. Can you tell me how the new database report (created by Merlissimo) is correct? For the few pages I opened, the date in the report does not match the last edited timestamp of the page. Am I missing something here? -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 13:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Niharika,
please change the text to Diese Liste enthält die 1000 Artikel, die am längsten nicht mehr bearbeitet wurde. Als Bearbeitung zählt hierbei jede Aktion, die zu einer Aktualisierung des Felds <code>page_touched</code> in der Datenbank führt, also neben Textbearbeitungen auch Seitensperrungen oder Änderungen an eingebundenen Vorlage. Für eine Liste der „wirklich“ am längsten nicht mehr von Menschen bearbeiten Artikel, siehe [[Benutzer:Merlissimo/LetzterEdit]]. --Kopiersperre (talk) 17:51, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Delhi Meetup
[edit]Hi,
A meetup in New Delhi is scheduled for this Sunday, 30th April. This is backed with a photography exhibition of Wiki Loves Monument in India 2016. More details here here. Do join us. Abhinav619 (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at User talk:Community Tech bot#Forgotten articles
[edit] You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Community Tech bot#Forgotten articles. —usernamekiran(talk) 18:00, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 1
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script:
- General announcements
- Management has migrated to phabricator; to report a bug or request a feature, please create a new task with the script's tag
- Message translation has been reduced; for common messages that are already translated in mediawiki core, the system translations are used, in order to reduce duplication of efforts
- Recent additions
- New pages are shown at the start of a site's feed
- Log entries are shown at the end of a site's feed
- Basic validation has been added to user settings, applied before saving
- Site validation has also been added; a site (excluding unique projects like wikidata, meta, commons, etc.) is considered to be valid if it is the form of "language.project", where both the language code and project name are valid. It does not, however, check that the actual site is valid; only that it could be. In other words, even though
sco.wiktionary
refers to a site that doesn't exist, it is considered valid, becausesco
is a valid language code (sco.wikipedia
is a working site) andwiktionary
is a valid project.
- Announcements
- BREAKING CHANGE: Backwards compatibility supporting the use of sites as
*.*.org
(like 'en.wikipedia.org' or 'meta.wikimedia.org'), deprecated in version 1.7.5, will be removed soon; all sites should now be saved as*.*
(like 'de.wikinews' or 'fr.wikisource') - BREAKING CHANGE: Storing user sites as
window.GlobalWatchlistSites
, deprecated in version version 1.11.11, will be removed soon; all settings should be stored in thewindow.GlobalWatchlistConfig
object - Both of these breaking changes will be implemented alongside version 4.0; until then, any use of the config page (m:Special:BlankPage/GlobalWatchlistConfig) will result in saving settings in the newest format
- Next release
Version 4.0 should be released in around a week. It will include the new features mentioned above, as well as removal of backwards compatibility for settings and sites.
I've sent this first message to users that participated in the discussion at m:Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Watchlists/Revive Crosswatch tool or otherwise shown interest in the script. To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 2
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script:
- General notes
- To report a bug or request a feature, please create a new task on Phabricator with the script's tag
- Recent additions
- Site validation has been tightened. Previously, only the language code and project name had to be valid - now, they must be a valid combination (i.e.
en.wikiversity
exists, and so is valid, butsco.wikiversity
is not valid, because no such wiki exists). - When the global watchlist feed is loading, an OOUI widget will be shown, rather than an animated gif.
- An option has been added to no longer group edits to the same page. For now, this isn't very useful, since metadata for the edits (editor, summary, tags, etc.) are not yet shown, but they will be soon. Until then, ungrouped edits are treated the same as pages with only 1 edit - the minor and bot flags are displayed if applicable. If edits are grouped, the minor and bot flags are only shown if they apply to all of the edits.
- Upcoming changes
- Starting with version 5.0, there will be an option at the settings page to switch to and from a "stable" version of the script. When activated, the script import in your global.js should be replaced, and then the page refreshed with the new script loaded. The stable script will live at m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist/stable.js, and will be updated with each full release. Otherwise, it shouldn't be edited, providing a version that is less prone to bugs as the script is developed.
- Announcements
- WARNING: Starting with version 5.1, the option to mark the pages of a site as seen be implemented using the
entirewatchlist
API option, rather than manually listing the titles. This is being done to simplify the implementation code. This will result in the same functionality as marking all pages as seen via Special:Watchlist (i.e. even if the page isn't visible due to your filter choices, it will still be marked as seen). If you would like to keep using the current method for a while, please switch to the stable branch.
- Next release
Version 5.0 has just gone live. It includes the new features mentioned above.
To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 22:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 3
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script:
- Survey
- I am investigating adding more context to each entry that is shown (such as the edit summaries, tags, patrol marks, the user who made the edit, etc.). Is there any desire for such additions? If so, what should be added first, and what is a low priority? Please leave feedback on the relevant phabricator task, phab:T238300.
- Recent additions
- Site validation has been overhauled. Rather than hard-coding a list of valid sites, users will be able to watch any site where they have an attached local user account. If a site is rejected as invalid, please ensure that there is indeed a local account attached to your global account.
- Users will now be alerted regarding the results of attempting to update their settings.
- Live updates have been added - when activated, the script will refresh in the background, and then load the new feed, every 7.5 seconds. In the future, this frequency may be configurable.
- OOUI icons have been added to most buttons.
- There is now an option to eliminate the confirmation dialog when marking all sites as seen.
- Announcements
- WARNING: Starting with version 6.1, site aliases currently used when saving settings will be removed, and only sites in the form of `lang.project` will be accepted.
- As noted in the last update, marking a site as seen now uses
entirewatchlist
, which means that any changes to watched pages between when the watchlist was loaded and when the site was "marked as seen" may be ignored.
- Next release
Version 6.0 was just finalized for the development and stable branches of the script.
To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 21:03, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 4
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script:
- Recent additions
- A new "fast" mode has been introduced. When used, the watchlist serves as just a list of pages that have been modified, and no longer includes context about the edits themselves.
- More information has been added to entries. When edits are not grouped by page, or when there is only 1 edit to a page, minor and bot flags are shown, as well as the user who made the edit, the summary used, and any tags that were applied. When multiple entries are grouped, bot and minor flags are only shown if all of the grouped edits were made by bots or where marked as minor. If only 1 user edited the page, that user's name is still shown, but no summaries or tags are included.
- All watchlists are now fetched in parallel, rather than in series, greatly reducing load time.
- Technical notes
- Most of the source code is now annotated with jsdoc notes, allowing others to more clearly understand and review the code.
- I will be looking into creating guidelines to let others contribute to the script; see phab:T238298.
- Translations
- There is now proper qqq documentation for translations. Translation takes place at m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist/Translate, and help is appreciated.
- Newly translated messages are added to the script when I notice them; if you have translated messages that aren't showing up, please let me know at m:User talk:DannyS712.
- Next release
Version 7.0 was just finalized for the development and stable branches of the script.
To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:37, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 5
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script:
- Future development
- I have requested a grant to fund conversion of this script into an extension, as well as further development. Please see m:Grants:Project/Create a global watchlist extension.
- If anyone is interested in reviewing the code and making suggestions regarding coding style, techniques, or something else, please let me know. See phab:T234507 for more.
- Recent additions
- I have added basic tests for the script, so bugs should be less likely to make their way to the deployed versions of the script (both the unstable development version, and the stable release version).
- If there is an error with the script, the user will be notified and and the console will include a stack trace of the issue.
- Translations
- Many thanks to those that have contributed translations for the script's messages. Translation takes place at m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist/Translate, and help is appreciated.
- Newly translated messages are added to the script when I notice them; if you have translated messages that aren't showing up, please let me know at m:User talk:DannyS712.
- Next release
- Version 8.0 was just finalized for the development and stable branches of the script.
To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 18:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 6
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script:
- Future development
- I have requested a grant to fund conversion of this script into an extension, as well as further development. Please see m:Grants:Project/DannyS712/Create a global watchlist extension.
- If anyone is interested in reviewing the code and making suggestions regarding coding style, techniques, or something else, please let me know. See phab:T234507 for more.
- Recent additions
- The results for each site, as well as the list of sites without changes, can be collapsed; the list of sites without changes starts collapsed.
- When the username associated with an edit has been hidden (either via revision deletion or suppression) this is now properly shown in the output, rather than showing "undefined".
- Links to view changes open in new tabs.
- When marking a site (or all sites) as seen, only changes made prior to the watchlist loading will be marked as seen, so that any changes since then are not missed.
- There is now a help link in the upper right hand corner that links to m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist, though it doesn't have the normal help icon.
- Translations
- Many thanks to those that have contributed translations for the script's messages. Translation takes place at m:User:DannyS712/Global watchlist/Translate, and help is appreciated.
- Newly translated messages are added to the script when I notice them; if you have translated messages that aren't showing up, please let me know at m:User talk:DannyS712.
- Next release
- Version 9.0.0 was just finalized for the development and stable branches of the script.
To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 7
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script and the Global watchlist extension:
- Future development
I have received a grant from the WMF to develop this script into an extension. As a result, I do not plan on any further developments being made to the user script. Please see the grant page for more information. Those interested in reviewing and providing feedback for the extension should follow the new phabricator board, phabricator:tag/mediawiki-extensions-globalwatchlist.
- Translations
Many thanks to those that have contributed translations for the script's messages. Now that I am working on an extension, translation has migrated to translatewiki. Please see:
- translatewiki:Special:Translate/ext-globalwatchlist
- translatewiki:Special:Translate/ext-globalwatchlist-api
- translatewiki:Special:Translate/ext-globalwatchlist-script
To subscribe or unsubscribe from future updates, see the distribution list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:41, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 8
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script and the Global watchlist extension:
As I noted in the last issue, I received a grant from the WMF to develop the global watchlist script into an extension. That extension has now been deployed on Meta. Visit m:Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings to get started.
I do not plan on any further developments being made to the user script. I have released version 9.1.0 to both the dev and stable versions, which includes a notification about the extension being available when you use the user script. You can dismiss the notification, and the script still works, but it will no longer be maintained.
Those interested in providing feedback for the extension should use the phabricator board, phabricator:tag/mediawiki-extensions-globalwatchlist. Any bug reports about the extension should be filed there.
This will likely be the last update sent to this list.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 19:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Global watchlist - Update 9
[edit]Updates associated with DannyS712's Global watchlist script and the Global watchlist extension:
Hi everyone. As I noted in the last issue, I received a grant last year from the WMF to develop the global watchlist script into an extension. That extension has now been deployed on Meta. Visit m:Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings to get started.
That grant has ended, and I have requested another grant to continue development of the extension, and figured subscribers of the newsletter about the user script might be interested. You can see and comment on the grant request at m:Grants:Project/DannyS712/Continued work on GlobalWatchlist extension - if you support this, I hope you'll consider endorsing the request.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:28, 19 April 2021 (UTC)